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TV is the new Movies: Hayden Christensen Returns & Dune HBO Max Lawsuit · Multiple Nerdgasm

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I don't know about you guys but I got a little bit overloaded with information
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this week yeah [ __ ] hell one just there was one evening that it was like
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well probably morning for you guys but it was just like it was a morning Matt
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we woke up this he just went here is everything to a whole lot of news all
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all good news but it was just a bit overwhelming welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt it's all a bit hearty so I don't really understand
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it Luke is that a little s penis Dam I accidentally got soap in my urethra
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multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy I finished work went to make
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dinner and then you know put had a bunch of stuff on and I was like I'll check my
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phone and I was like what the [ __ ] just happened in the last hour and it didn't
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stop it just kept coming once I got my head around some stuff suddenly Matt was
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pointing out other stuff that I'd missed so I wonder if is this something like
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they've been sitting on this I know that there was a Disney investor call which I
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think is where a lot of this came out but I'm just used to this stuff you know
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coming out at conventions we're not having those so is this is this because
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of that maybe that's what it is you know normally there'd be like ComiCon and
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Beyond and then we'd get all this stuff but this just came out that they
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wouldn't they don't normally announce this much stuff and it wasn't just
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Disney let's be clear it was like everybody had just saved up a bunch of
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[ __ ] and they were like here you go how about a TV series about this thing or as
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soon as Disney started saying their stuff everyone else is like well don't
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just pay attention to them we've got stuff too we got a [ __ ] alien show
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talk about that I know yeah I missed that one yeah that was just in the in
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the flood Fox is coming up with a [ __ ] alien TV series all right why
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not everything's TV series now is is that going to have aliens in it
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it is going to be set on Earth Luke so there's that no so hopefully not then
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because otherwise we' all just be dead it's not an alien show then is it let's
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be honest I mean you have to ask that question it can be set in the alien
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universe and not have aliens in it that's fine but it's not really an alien
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film like like like we're we're watching them build the Prometheus that that's
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still in the universe just building a ship ah all right it's just time lapse
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photography of of a spaceship being built and it's going to start now and
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and it's going to go up until they actually can figure out how to make it
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Fly and travel FAS light and it's direct away with this spot so I'm going to watch
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it that's not true I haven't watched several of his films but this just comes
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back to Hollywood listening to us because I've been saying for a couple of
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years now they need to start going more to television shows with some of this
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stuff oh yeah I think television problem with that absolutely I mean on that note
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we could start with um we we we we talked about last week HBO Max is going
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to be getting all the Warner stuff this coming year that's pissed off quite a
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lot of people Fair few people quite unhappy some people very unhappy some
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people getting the lawyers involved mostly I think mostly industry people p
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off I don't think any any consumer is particularly pissed off about this no
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I'm excited yeah but Christopher Nolan for example not happy not happy not
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happy that his uh films would potentially be going straight to
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streaming but also pointing out uh that he thinks HBO Max is the worst of all
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streaming services I saw that we don't have HBO Max but we we do have binge and
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it is definitely the worst 100% the worst was he talking from a technical
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perspective or is there something about HBO that Christopher Nolan doesn't like
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that's what I was unclear on I know he said that I just wonder still unclear
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yeah why does he think they're the worst yeah or was he just being a bit of a
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[ __ ] yeah his ex-girlfriend works
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there Deni Vu the director of Dune and
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um Blade Runner almost said cyber Punk Blade Runner
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249 yes uh he's pissed off because he doesn't want
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Dune going on HBO Max and I can understand why I mean of all things Dune
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really needs that super widescreen format yes I get that also I think it's
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I don't think I think this is probably save them a little bit cuz it's not
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going to do it won't do well at the movies will not do well it's got a good
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cast man I mean even if people aren't familiar with the book no no people
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there are a lot of people who are sort of not I know it's just a long dry book
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A lot of people it's one of my favorite long dry books Luke okay yeah I there's
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there are people who love it but there's a lot of people who just stri because
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there's no moisture on a racus yeah I I just I honestly think June was
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never going to do well at the movies and this is probably a good out for them
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yeah also I've got a nicer TV than most of the cinema screens in this area so
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I'm okay with that yeah they were forced to make this film and this is just G him a nice
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out thank God yeah what do we got coming up June oh God how do we how do we get
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out of this what
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a um not only is dener upset his production country country yeah the
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whole country France no um the production company of June legendary
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pictures have announced that they are going to sue Warner Brothers for releas the pict
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in I can sort of understand where they're coming from they're thinking
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that they're not going to make as much money if it goes this way which and
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that's not what they signed on for and sort of invested that money at the start
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which yes it's true but what do you want them to do yeah not only that but I
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think if the answer is because of Co you can't sue yeah or we could all sue
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someone yeah like how long do you sit how long are you willing to sit on the
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movie before you can put it at the the does this include James
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Bond that's not through Warner but like is everything just gonna follow suit now
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I would like for them to just not hold off I want to watch that [ __ ] movie
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and I know it's finished that's the question is is this going to be the new
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Norm uh and I guess we'll have to see I also read that uh some people pissed off
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because Wonder Woman which was kind of the first one they announced got some
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pretty good money I think for that like the the the the creators of Wonder Woman
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I think got kind of paid out better than the others will although I I don't know
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how much speculation that is but that that was also something that I read
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there that the reason some of the other people paid off pissed off is because
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they're not getting paid as much and uh
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like U yeah but I mean I mean in the DC Universe at least one woman's the only
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one anyone liked and the only one that made some money so can't talking we're
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talking June we're talking The Suicide Squad we're talking there's a lot of
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movies now that are now still June I mean Luke might not be correct
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there that no one wants to see it but oh I'm correct but it's it's not Wonder
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Woman Smash Hit Suicide Squad we're looking forward to it cuz it's uh James
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G 50% cuz it's James gun 50% because it's like he's taking a failed franchise
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and he thinks he can redo it and that's just that's great but I mean this is a
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sequel to A F of a movie
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yeah yeah speaking of which they're making another Sonic the
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Hedgehog I I actually like that I liked it I didn't watch it no I didn't watch
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it either is it worth is it worth watching oh yeah look I I hired it for
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five bucks and I streamed it and yeah it was worth five bucks okay all
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right that's Le's review I hir it and I watched it
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five stars worth the price of the ticket I am happy they did change what he
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looked like MH mov I'm look I'm looking forward to a
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sequel speaking of changing changing what people look like can I just can I segue
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for I've got to tell a personal anecdote that happened to me today uh I I got a
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haircut today in fact I got two haircuts today because I got a haircut oh what I
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got a haircut that was so terrible that I walked out of the barber walked into
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the next barber I saw and asked for another haircut oh God just in case you were
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thinking that maybe I was overreacting the first thing that the second Barber
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said to me was let me guess you tried to cut your own
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hair and I said nope no I was just next
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door I paid someone to do this to me yeah and now I'm paying you to undo it
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yeah normally I know when I'm paying someone to punish me not in this case
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that's right I was not aware until halfway through then I was very
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[Laughter] aware it does seem like TV is the new
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movies just based on some of these trailers for this week let's go down the
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list shall we all right do you want to do the honors you can be our list Master
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oh where's the list that's the problem is there isn't I don't have a definitive
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list I just pop here and I know we wer I mean we weren't going to cover the cover
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it all anyway but all right do you want to start with the Marvel ones so this
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okay so Marvel we've got one division so we knew there were a bunch of Marvel
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stuff coming yes this is all stuff that they announced uh last year or the year
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before this has been in the works for a while but I hadn't seen any of the
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footage yet right you had seen what it looked like did you watch these
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trailers I just watched Loki I haven't seen the others [ __ ] behind on
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actually watching these to be honest they have got they have put some money
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into this [ __ ] this just looks like more if you if you told me this was the
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trailer for the new Marvel movie I wouldn't question it it looks yeah but
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it doesn't have any of the main characters in it well it I mean it does
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now right Loki a main character Falcon Winter Soldier then the main characters
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now that Chris Evans has retired One Division which like they all main
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characters these are second tier characters there's no thought there's no
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Captain America there's no Iron Man I get you but then if you look like this
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everyone they can afford to put in a TV show I mean Loki's got Owen Wilson in it
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yeah [ __ ] okay I'm in I was in already but now I'm doubl in and then
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the like just the the the just the production values of this like it just
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looks like a film it doesn't look like a TV series as we are used to and I mean
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it makes sense cuz it's Disney and they've got [ __ ] [ __ ] off money but I
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was just very surprised particularly the Winter Soldier one is action sequence
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they show in the in the trailer and it I mean it looks like mindless movie action
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but it looks like mindless movie action yeah not TV action not Buffy it's right
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and then I mean also similar you know the first episode of Mandalorian this
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season that I I was watching I was like [ __ ] me this is what TV is now with the
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with the crate Dragon what TV can be yeah but if you if you watch some of the
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DC shows that are still going
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for it cuz they're jacking up the price hiking up the price
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yeah but you know what they're also jacking up the content so yeah to to the
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max it's like it's been a it's been a dry to the max you can't don't say that
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no HBO Max sorry that's copyright my bad my bird you know I notic the other day
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um binge the the which
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for I know it's awful for you'll hate it more when I tell you this story too so
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for those in America who don't know around the world binge is the HBO
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content on uh Australian streaming right because we don't have HBO anything binge
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um whenever it says binging like you know we noticed you're
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binging on Faro or whatever you know how
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when you make a word into an in you know like into
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a you drop the e to add ing right everyone [ __ ] knows that binging is
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spell b i n g e i n because some [ __ ] marketing person went well we can't
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spell it wrong yeah you still have to have our logo in there yeah exactly so it's just
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a spelling mistake every time you see it
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yeah yeah we don't wanted to Bing anything that's a Microsoft uh term we'll get
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sued MH it's just the worst and then every time you watching on computer
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every time it episode ends you have to refresh the browser because it just
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crashes but first first you've got to remember which episode you were up to
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cuz it doesn't always keep track sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't
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other times no we have this issue here
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with um you mentioned uh Max right HB Max
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uh whenever I want to watch a show right and it's like oh you need to install a
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specific app for it I have to do a whole bunch of research for first which is
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[ __ ] stupid because every channel here has their own [ __ ] app right so
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I can't just install you know you got you've got binge and you got Netflix and
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you've got a couple we've got here maybe this is the same with foxtail over there
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but there's like a [ __ ] new Food Network app there's a FX app there's a
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every [ __ ] Channel but there's five of them for every channel because you've
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got HBO for example you've got HBO right when they first came out they had a HBO
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app and then they were like well y here's HBO GO that's for people I I'm
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probably going to get this wrong but that's for people who've got a cable
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subscription and they want to watch stuff on their iPads you've got HBO go
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for that and you got HBO now HBO now is the one if you want to just pay for a
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subscription on your iPad then you've got HBO [ __ ] this HBO that now is HBO
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Max it's like which [ __ ] app do I have to install to watch this show it's
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impossible and more importantly which one are you going to phase out tell me
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now yeah get rid of them the problem is they're not phasing anything out which
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you could just have one app it's Food Network same problem right trying to
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watch [ __ ] Ace of Cakes shut up man
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you [ __ ] love your baking shows at the moment don't
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you I bought a stand mix stand I bought a stand mixer do you want to tell the
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listeners about the pancakes you made with [ __ ] rollos back in the day oh
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that is there my well that probably the
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um the the the Genesis Inception yeah back when when lived uh in a in a little
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apartment in Eastwood in Sydney I got hungry one night and I got a pre-made
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pancakes mind you I didn't make the pancakes I went to to Franklin's I think
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and I bought oh Franklin's some pre-made pancakes and a packet of rollos like a
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multi pack of rollos delicious uh
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pancakes buted the pancakes yeah and then uh pop some rollers on there and
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made myself a delicious treat what's the problem I I heard you then microwaved it
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is that true that's true and I also uh spent most of the night with stomach
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cramps yes unur unrelated of course yeah probably yeah yeah but uh yeah Disney's
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putting the price up which I guess makes sense considering but still it's still
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one of the cheapest ones of all the streaming services by far the cheapest right I
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don't I don't think there's anyone cheaper than that yeah with what they
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now like that's just the Marvel stuff then they also came out and said here's
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all theu Star Wars stuff which this was all new yeah okay
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so there was talk there's always been talk about the Obi-Wan one happening
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this a bit sweet moment because there's in one way there's no better time to be
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a Star Wars fan there is a wealth of content coming out next year but at the
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same time please be careful with my heart because I've been hurt
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before I think now what they're doing and I think this is what we need to
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accept is not everything they've announced is for everyone yeah mhm
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you're right yeah they're spreading they're spreading the Star Wars Jam very
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thinly to get it all the way to the crust
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mhmh like there's there's a couple that I'm really looking forward to one I'm a
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bit upset this is a movie instead of a television show which is weird cuz
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they're making so many television shows but Rogue Squadron yes that's the one
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I've been saying for a long time that needs to be a television show could be
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interesting could be interesting um and P jins director of Wonder Woman
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is going to helm that one yes um other one I'm looking forward to is Rangers of
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the new Republic now that's an animated show right I don't think so I think
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that's just a t no I think that's live action this is a tiing to Mandalorian
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yeah there's two there's Ahsoka and Rangers of the new Republic which are
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live action TV shows I think oh and so with Rangers I think that's more so
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going to be you know how in a couple episodes of the Mandalorian there's been
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those like X-Wing Pilots that have shown up it's going to be sort of more around
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that type of stuff like what the Republic was doing this time yeah which
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is sort of sounds like going to be what my RO quadron televion show wanted so
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I'm okay with that Osaka I'm could Lea
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Lando that was a shock one yeah Lando and they've got Glover coming back to
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Lando oh is that true I didn't know that okay yeah interesting and then we get on to some
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more obw back and they're also bringing back haen Christensen as Darth Vader I
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got no problem with that I got no problem with that it was not Christ's
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fault that he sucked so bad how is Darth Vader going to be in the Obi-Wan series
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that's set During the period where he's supposed to think Obi-Wan is dead this
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going to be scaring each other yeah that just seems a little bit
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weird that one but we've always been wondering what they're going to do with
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the Obi-Wan was always just going to be a creepy old man watching a child from
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the distance living on a rock this show is set 10 years after the dramatic
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events of Revenge of the Sith so how the [ __ ] are they going to both be in it so
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so the only thing I can think of is they're sort of showing they're they don't they're not
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going to be fighting each other or anything it's just going to be this
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article says that the showrunner says they will be fighting each other it's
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going to contain the rematch of the basically said up until now we've all
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assumed that they haven't seen each other since since the [ __ ] fight in
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the lava and then the next time was the fight on the Death Star as old men that
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will no longer be the case oh God I was really hoping they weren't going to do
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that see the these are the ones where like that one and even Lando I'd
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beefer if they left them alone yese we don't need Lando unless they get the
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direct if it's going to be Glover he's a great actor but I I think they should
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double down and also get the director of his series Atlanta and they should just
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do this as a [ __ ] gritty Street drama see okay that see now I'm interested
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that could be cool yeah they won't though um there's the uh the Cassi and
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Andor show yeah I mean that no one was asking for but fine fine yeah I watched
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the the little teaser for that I watch too that Diego Luna
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necessarily can carry an entire series that too I mean he's charming and I like
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him like this is going to be dark isn't
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it it'sa it's going to be a bit dark this I want to know I imagine it' be
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Rogue one in tone it' be weird if they didn't if they took a character from Rue
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he was basically talking about the terrible stuff that he' done before this
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it's about the birth of the Rebellion
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right yeah so I want to see Andor go to
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Endor uhhuh MH I want to see go to some planets that we haven't [ __ ] seen
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before yeah but then there are other on so there's some cartoons that are coming
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out as well like the bad batch and a Droid story and and it was Star Wars
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visions that I was thinking that you guys were talking about before which is
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uh right animated uh Manga style yeah
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cuz of course cuz you've got to cuz one you got to have one of those got to have
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one of those but yeah d came from nowhere
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yeah and then uh the other Marvel stuff just to touch on it new Fantastic fall
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movie so they're going to reboot that again Marvel's actually doing it this
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time Ant-Man 3 oh that's right put the license back there that is flogging a
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dead horse this honestly this is their last chance listeners if this is not
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good please stop going to these Fantastic Four movies like we need to tell we need to go
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on this will tie in they stopped writing the comic books yeah
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because the movies were so bad they just stopped writing Comics they stopped
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writing Comics because they didn't own the rights to the movies and the movies
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were bad now they own the rights of the movies so I think they can like control
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everything yeah like it was more so why would we keep writing comics where
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you're giving us where you're making money from the movies and you're also
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giving us a Bad Name the comic industry is dying we're basically promoting your
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bad movies for you but now they own it again I guess I guess it's fine yeah so
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they'll go back and then they'll tie it into yeah MCU the universe so there's a
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Hawkeye show coming I'm not sure anyone's asking for that but actually I
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like Hawkeye and I liked him a lot more since Age of Ultron and onwards I
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thought they really found his character in that so okay I'll be open to that
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there's one called one thing that's going to be a bit weird is the timing of
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all of these movies I think that's going to start to get a bit confusing about
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the timeline unless they just start going multiple
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timelines well they yeah Loki's yeah an alternate universe yeah yeah and so that
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can just make things quite confusing this is that problem we always we've
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talked about before the comics always have is that they they do that and then
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they make this huge mess and then they're like well we got to restart the
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whole thing from scratch cuz even we can't keep track of this we [ __ ] it
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yeah yeah yeah and it's a bit harder to do with movies especially well but
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especially now like we've never had movies like this before like we've had
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reboots before where it's like three movies and we start again that's fine
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but this is huge do you start and St I'm interested
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seeing this secret Invasion Samuel as Nick Fury and Ben melon in some kind of
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Buddy comedy I'd watch that yeah that's
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about the the aliens from um mhm uh what's that movie
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Scrolls yeah the um the really forgettable one Captain Marvel Captain
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Marvel there's a Miz Marvel coming out of course yes mhm this is interesting
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black panther 2 will not recast Chadwick bosan but the movie is still happening
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what does that mean um provocative oh no that's uh I mean
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that's intentionally uh intriguing he filmed
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anything I mean I don't know they're not planning to CGI him are they I don't we don't
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know please don't this is what this is what this is what they said this is from
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Kevin for Kevin figy Chadwick Bosman was an immensely talented actor and an
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inspirational individual who affected all of our Lives professionally and
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personally MH his betrayal of toala in the Black Panther is Iconic and
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transcends any iteration of the character in another medium H for that
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reason we will not recast the character however to honor the Legacy that Chad
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helped us build through the portrayal of the king of wakanda we want to continue
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to explore the world and the rich vared characters introduced in the first film
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so that character will just not be in it I guess which hope I prefer that over
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definitely yeah yeah wiing of the Galaxy holiday
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special yes James any details what this is yet
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no but James G tweeted this week he tweeted the poster and said even seeing
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this makes me laugh I bugged Kevin feige endlessly over the years and I can't
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believe he's actually doing this it's I I think it's the Star Wars
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holiday special but it's Guardians of the Galaxy I think they're doing one of those
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yeah that's what I get the idea of but release it now I want to see
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it uhuh oh but see this is annoying this is an announcement that this should be
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announcement and it's out this isn't one that they should be announcing is a
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coming soon next year type of thing this should have been a this is out and then
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like they have this drop on Twitter and then the next day it's available to
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watch we should not have to wait a year for this yeah I see where you're coming
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from with that this one is like a little like a nice little cherry on the top
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they didn't need to sizzle
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it anoun the blade remake cuz I'm
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legitimately interested in that yeah maybe with remember that remember when
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they were talking about that yeah a dude
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from um Alita is played now yeah I I
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good point play re yes uh M mAh
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that's the guy from yeah you're right I'm GNA go with your I'm gonna go with
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your thing yeah I think it's still happening it's just everything's on hold
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now so yeah yeah who knows we just too much Ant-Man 3 got a new got a title
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yeah fine Thor th1 Thor Thor I can't
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pronounce Thor Thor 11 Thunder has officially cast Christian Bale as the
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villain uh which we kind of already knew uh they're shooting I find funny about
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the the Ant-Man one is I love the Ant-Man character I love Paul R as
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Ant-Man I just don't like the movies his movies are awful he was great in not his
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own movies yeah yeah oh Civil War it was
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amazing yeah Quantum Mania it's called
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okay whatever Mania and the other thing that's been bouncing around is that so
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you've got that and then you've got the quantum realm and all that you've got
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the the new Doctor Strange the Multiverse of Madness which is apparently going to
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lead into the new Spider-Man movie they're making and this is where it's
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getting interesting because apparently they've hired everyone who's ever been
28:42
in a Spider-Man film to be in this Spider-Man film including other people who were
28:47
Spider-man and uh Kirsten Dunst interesting what's his name Dr
28:54
Octopus what was his name um Alfred Molina Alfred Molina apparently he's coming back
28:59
wow um now I'm going to put this out there that you still haven't watched
29:04
into the spiderverse correct no no no I understand that this is possible I'm just
29:10
surprised this is like the this is the ultimate example remember when they
29:14
first announced they were doing these movies and we poo pooed the idea on this
29:17
very show and I'm pretty sure I said how the [ __ ] are they going to get all these
29:20
actors to come back for all these movies all the time how they going to afford
29:24
this how's this going to happen well they've [ __ ] shown me haven't they cuz now
29:30
froming where do they get the cash for this I understand Disney are a big
29:35
company but they haven't released a film all year I'm wondering if if this Marvel
29:41
stuff is just so big now that even the actors are like I got to get in on this
29:45
like [ __ ] Owen Wilson showing up in the Loki trailer out of nowhere I was
29:48
like Owen Wilson is in this yeah like mind you luk will tell you when the last
29:54
time Owen Wilson had a job well that's what I'm thinking like what's he been doing ow
29:58
he's been doing he's been doing a bunch of romantic comedies hasn't he I've seen
30:02
him on on trailers with things yeah but I don't think you've seen him on
30:06
trailers I think you've seen him in things from years ago no no no there was
30:12
he was in a movie I don't know a little while ago all right let me let me let brother
30:19
in things I know that okay AR Wilson here we
30:24
go uh so Shanghai Dawn
30:28
uh he took 2020
30:32
off [ __ ] what actor didn't take 2020 off but no if you look at him even the
30:38
last sort of three years it's not like he's been in that much sure so he did
30:44
car 3 in 2017 oh yeah he did a television show something called Wonder
30:50
father figures a leg he did and then sort of
30:56
nothing so car three some television shows some movies I've not heard of and
31:01
now it's got other stuff coming out but yeah I love the idea that I like I love
31:06
how in Luke's head somewh Owen Wilson right who's probably very wealthy right
31:09
if he's not in a movie this year he's [ __ ] on the street he'll do
31:16
anything and Johnny de no but I also maybe not him cuz he's he's quite
31:21
success he's probably put some money away but I also think uh it's we also
31:28
overestimate how much money not the top tier of Hollywood like I remember I
31:34
remember reading an article once about Diane whis you remember
31:37
herh um she's in everything right um but she was talking about how she has to
31:42
[ __ ] move out of her house and into a smaller cheaper house and whoever it was
31:46
a variety or whatever is like how come she's like cuz I'm not making any
31:50
[ __ ] money yeahh well it's I mean I often you know I like I like film scores
31:56
and I like making music for films and that kind stuff but you [ __ ] don't
31:59
get paid a lot when you do that unless you're hand Zimmer there's like there's
32:03
like 10 composers who get 90% of the work get most money other than that it's
32:07
not a high-paying job no and there's less and less money in it every day and
32:12
I'm not just talking the music there's just less and less money in film well
32:15
there's more people doing it and there's less of it like yeah
32:19
mhm couple of other things that you forget are owned by Disney that have got
32:23
new content coming out Indie 5 officially announced that's coming and
32:28
they are confirming that they will still not be replacing will die during the shooting
32:34
of well I mean they have said this will be the last one wink but they keep
32:39
saying it no one's asking the question though but they keep bringing it up you
32:43
know trust me there will be an Indiana Jones reboot or six coming got plans on
32:48
how he's going to go I'm positive sh buff has written a script for
32:54
himself we got some sh buff news coming up yeah might be that might be
33:00
Afterparty news all right well if you want to hear the shla again because it's
33:04
been a while go to patreon.com multiple nasm get in on the Afterparty so uh we
33:09
also talked about the fact that the highest rated cinematic release of uh
33:14
October this year was Hocus Pocus so of course of course they're now doing Hocus
33:21
Pocus too yeah of course I haven't seen the first one what the first one about yeah
33:27
I haven't se neither haven't seen it haven't seen it we not watch it and I
33:31
probably won't see the sequel no I mean maybe
33:36
now might be we have touched on this a bit earlier we were going to discuss
33:40
something that was postponed and then come out should we discuss that
33:43
now what are we talking about what are we talking about stuff postponed a few
33:49
times and finally released yeah yeah yeah I assume people are waiting for us
33:52
to talk about this to be honest yeah so Dan has hasn't played it yet no
33:58
and I'm not going to so don't worry about me go ahead I'm assuming Matt you
34:03
have so cyber Punk cyk I've been playing quite a bit of it probably not as much I
34:07
hear it's a perfect Flawless and certainly not unfinished
34:14
game I am just so shocked the bugs that are in this the type of bugs that it's
34:20
released with make no sense to me um there are some big bugs in the
34:26
game for the Post how long it's been back I mean look it's
34:30
a big game and with a lot going on so I'm not surprised that some bugs but
34:34
yeah you're right I've know I've this is the first game I've ever played where
34:41
like it's got as many as this like at launch there's been a few times I've had
34:45
to like restart the game because it's yeah I had to I've had to save and load
34:50
a game U mostly to be fair mostly just visual things yeah not like the game
34:57
hasn't like died on me or anything like that I haven't there was one mission for me
35:02
where um I was meant to go and talk to Jackie again but Jackie wasn't there so
35:06
I had to go off and do another mission and come back and then he magically
35:09
appeared but it's just but big when I go to it's one time I was seeing a truck
35:15
drive down the street and then the truck disappeared and there's just a guy
35:19
sitting in midair driving a truck down the road yeah I have B stuff like um
35:25
mostly com it's mostly just comical little things like
36:12
[Laughter]
36:27
really like it I like it a lot I'm enjoying it I am finding one thing
36:32
though the missions are a bit syy
36:37
Yeah World kind of thing yeah yeah yeah yeah it's all it's either still this or
36:44
rescue this person and that's all it really seems to be but I'm saying I'm
36:48
still enjoying it yeah one thing I'm finding that I'm doing is I'm driving
36:52
around everywhere I'm not using the fast travel in the game yeah because I like
36:56
to see Drive now for now for now yes
37:01
there are a lot of [ __ ] NPCs wandering around yeah like it's packed
37:06
it's like if it feels like a real City it's not like in you know like old games
37:10
where it's like oh you're in the big city and oh there's one guy on the
37:13
street corner this is not it's like 100 people in the streets and they are all
37:19
different it's not like you seen something where it's always the same car
37:22
and always the same sort of models in that particular area no everyone is
37:26
different it is the busiest world I've seen which is I guess hug
37:31
aot while to drive around immersive a world as you were hoping it would be oh
37:37
it's it's good I think mhm it is good I think the bugs take you out of it a
37:41
little bit that's that's true look I I have an Xbox now
37:47
uhh but even when I can plug it into a television and have a couch to sit on
37:52
I'm still going to wait I'm going to I'm going to wait until no one's complaining
37:56
about these well I think when lucky if you will be lucky if you do decide to
38:01
play cuz you have a series X cuz evidently even though this isn't a Next
38:05
Generation game this was designed for the PS4 and the Xbox One evidently
38:09
they're struggling to run it yeah there a funny YouTube video I've popped in
38:13
there I'll put it in the show notes it's someone's recut one of the Cyber Punk
38:18
trailers with actual footage from an Xbox
38:23
one I mean I mean look see project red I love you but this video is pretty funny
38:29
yeah M I have liked that they've changed their bonus policy at the moment oh
38:36
because of how it's released used to yeah used to be B based on the reviews
38:40
that had to get an average critic score meta critic score and then they got huge
38:44
bonus like we're talking bonuses that will put you a huge deposit on a house
38:49
yeah cuz for what they work but now they've gone like look we're not cuz
38:53
they're getting crucified with reviews they're just doing it on sales yeah
38:59
M instead of the reviews but and look Witcher 3 was also very buggy at launch
39:05
I don't know that it was this this I don't think this and I think the problem
39:09
with this is is because they postponed it so many times like months it's drawn
39:14
attention to the fact that it's and and again I think the they probably
39:20
prioritized and it certainly seems like like I said I've not had any bugs that
39:24
broke the game where I've had to you know like a gotten stuck and I've been
39:29
up you know like game you know you you you play a game and you hit a bug and
39:33
it's like your save game is just now [ __ ] right I haven't had really should
39:38
had that yeah so to their credit they probably prioritized all that stuff and
39:43
the game is playable it's just goofy [ __ ] happens like you get a tarot card
39:48
reading and there's no cards like that kind of thing happens
39:54
future future cards man that's an actual uh thing that happened was I was getting
39:58
a tarot reading as part of the oh and my pants seem to disappear quite a lot I'm
40:03
not bad about that I'm not bad about that that is quite
40:07
amusing mirror and for some reason my hair is gone and you can see my bush
40:11
when you're like you're like hiding watching this [ __ ] tense thing going
40:14
on and then your [ __ ] Dick's just hanging out like it's
40:18
strange because there was a bug where it's not just that your pants are off
40:22
it's just that your dick's out have you seen that FG no I haven't seen that one
40:28
yeah it's funny that and some um oh yeah
40:32
CU obviously you're a female yes wait cuz you could you can be a female with a
40:38
dick with a dick are you a female with a dick no I am female okay I'm a female
40:42
with a vagina okay do you could
40:47
no I do like the fact that you could have a circumcised and an uncircumcised
40:51
penis wow that I mean I don't want to I don't want to talk about this too much
40:55
but there was there were a couple of reviews that I was do we need to play
40:58
the genital news jingle if we're going to keep going down this
41:02
uh genital news 20177 there was a there were a couple of
41:08
reviews that talked about the inclusiveness of of of the game because
41:13
it's got it does it allows you to do things that the games as far as I know
41:16
have not allowed you to do before you can play a a you know a character that
41:20
reads female but has a dick or you can just you just Swap and change whatever
41:24
you want basically is what I'm getting at you can be whatever you want but
41:28
there were reviews that were saying ah it's not enough like nobody addresses
41:32
the fact that you've that you've got a dick or what do you want that's yeah the
41:38
idea though well what does that look like in Practical terms you actually
41:42
have to tune in body dysmorphia I've got this body but I'm I'm happy with it I
41:48
know it just seemed like like I mean okay you're asking for quite a lot
41:52
whether you realize it or not like so I don't know I was a little surprised by
41:57
uh just more than more than one review brought also the way I look
42:04
at it is is is that's what you're sort of aiming for is the fact that like cuz
42:07
it's meant to be in the future that you can just decide you are this and then no
42:11
one makes a deal about it it's just yeah that's I'm saying just no one gives a
42:14
[ __ ] that's you yeah yeah I mean I thought doesn't matter I'm still going
42:18
to try and murder you yeah mhm isn't that the ideal it's just business as
42:22
usual no one gives a [ __ ] yeah I mean I at the moment I can get through whole
42:26
days without anyone asking to see my genitals you know yeah I'm sorry
42:31
yeah I we really should just stay in touch more often I hear what you're
42:35
saying yeah hear what he's saying It's just tough with you know the
42:39
difference in time and everything you and this is such a new thing though it's
42:44
like the more the more Progressive the world becomes the more Angry social
42:49
justice Warriors become yeah because it's it's not like it's just not enough
42:54
there's a win when there's a win it's not celebrate the win it's well what
42:59
about this it's not good enough yeah I know I mean came out all those Tans were
43:04
like it's not enough but at end of the day just be
43:09
nice to each other don't be a dick and don't hurt people and we'll all be fine
43:14
that's what I think I'm surprised Australia are allowing the genitals to
43:17
be shown Australia usually frown on genitals um they they're allow I got a
43:22
shock cuz there's like sex scenes in this but genitals have been
43:28
uh games for while in Australia okay it's the actual sex I've been away for a bit
43:34
issue I mean I had to play I played five years of Conan with no dicks I mean and
43:39
dicks is the reason get your Conan you can get Conan with dick now there you go
43:45
hey guys I don't not to interrupt the flow of the show but am I the only one
43:49
who's found who googles down right now like I'm looking sheet no also yeah yeah
43:54
mine can't refresh yeah yeah and I went to I was like what the [ __ ] so I switch
43:58
to my mail tab Gmail's down oh is it okay I mean that Ian that that doesn't
44:04
happen very often no I actually thought my um I thought my browser just SP yeah
44:09
I did go try to look at a YouTube video and it wasn't there and I thought oh
44:12
maybe it's just a link Google's exploded failable trade but yeah 502 that's an
44:16
error all right please try again 30 seconds that's all we know well Google
44:20
if you listening right in so you've heard it here first Google is down the
44:25
world is going to end it's why 2K all over again yeah cuz I was like maybe my
44:30
internet's down but I'm still talking to you guys so how's that
44:34
work yeah exactly did it Google go down
44:38
recently as well did it did
44:42
yeah so that means we can only talk about things that we don't need to open
44:47
links to well no no no the links will work it's just Google won't work yeah
44:53
you want to Google a new article you won't be able to find it oh yeah you're
44:56
right so I I assume this whole page would be [ __ ] but no you're right I
44:59
can't open the links we can talk about another sort of announcement that sort
45:04
of happened during the game awards yes with a game we quite liked Fu me take
45:11
Mass money they're saying yes it's h going to happen we haven't given up on
45:17
this and I'm just please don't be Andromeda it can't be got to learn yeah
45:24
I can't imagine they do that again we we'll see this one I mean I watched the
45:28
teaser it's got Lara in it so they're yeah the fact that they're making this
45:32
number four and not just another spin-off is a good sign it means they're
45:35
listening it's like that Ghostbusters reboot where they're like all right we
45:39
dropped the ball yeah we're going back yeah well you know I mean they're doing
45:44
you know they're doing bios 4 as well
45:48
yes sorry for that yeah I me we don't have to have sequels just I'm just no
45:54
but I mean you know well that's what they do with drer not to have a sequel
45:58
just here's another story in the universe except they just didn't do it
46:02
right but the problem was not that it was a a different story in the universe
46:08
the problem was that it was bad like yeah one of the things they talking
46:14
about in that game was like the decisions you make you're going to see
46:17
like the world the planets change around you but all that happened was you went
46:21
to a planet did some missions some ships landed set up a settlement and then that
46:25
was it that was the settlement for not only that then you had to go and do that
46:29
elsewhere and I'm like well I've done that I want to do something else now but
46:33
yeah and but then that didn't improve upon that and then they with the DLC
46:37
where I just went H we're not going to finish the DLC so you know don't worry
46:41
about that Arc that didn't make it yeah yeah you got read the book you guys
46:46
didn't like the game well [ __ ] yeah yeah but this does I mean this little teaser
46:51
doesn't give away anything but what it does is kind of and also fan theame my
46:57
love of this we're not going to see this until 26 or something like this is at
47:02
the earliest we're nowhere near to getting this cuz their next game coming
47:06
out will be Dragon's Age the new Dragon Age and we're probably still a good two
47:11
three years away from that Dragon Age four Dragon's Age the dragon has
47:17
aged hello I'm a dragon but you have to you'd have to
47:23
this is by's absolute last chance yeah we've said this a few
47:29
times thought Luke is at his wit's end with you
47:35
mhm give me NS your Republic 3 and All Is Forgiven oh um this won't interest
47:41
you at all because you don't have Apple devices but nights of the Old Republic 2
47:44
is coming out on iOS devices and I'm excited about it okay I play it on my
47:50
iPad sure why not I actually really liked that game and it was buggy I love
47:55
that actually that's another buggy game speaking well speaking of buggy games like that's
47:59
the thing like when Bethesda Games come out they're buy as hell at the start but
48:03
they're a bit more forgiving with what we are with a lot of people being with
48:06
cyber Punk and again I think it just goes back fact that they actually
48:10
postponed it yeah it's very similar being more critical you've got a big
48:14
open world like that I mean shit's going to it's hard you can't test everything
48:18
no and and to be clear cyber Punk is is
48:22
really fun great it's it's it t it's more than playable like I'm really
48:29
enjoying playable L but but I I'm say we are lucky that
48:35
we're playing on a new generation I can't wait to see it's game with the
48:38
series X upgrade I did see that there was a funny article I'm this is true if you're
48:44
playing on an Xbox One or a PS4 um it
48:48
has a lot of performance issues but it said that that there's a work around if
48:54
if the frame rate drops too much just stop looking at stuff so if you're
48:59
playing the game blow your eyes no so if something's happening right which
49:03
presumably you look away shoot out yeah just look away from the action look look
49:08
at something static because exactly just look at the wall or something and then
49:13
I'll fix it I just that's the funniest solution amazing amazing I'm playing
49:17
this action game in a big shootout it's like oh frame R dropped a bit I'll just
49:21
I'll I'll ignore I I'll ignore this yeah yeah I'm getting over try and do anything
49:27
just seemed like a but they it was specifically um when you start a
49:32
shootout a lot of the NPCs around will panic and apparently that in particular
49:37
causes massive performance issues okay so just stop looking at make a little
49:42
bit sense in so yeah if you when you start the initial comeback the NPC that
49:47
on Battle will run away and then you can start fighting I think so it's just that when
49:52
there out their XBox freaks out so stop looking at them
49:58
that kind of reminds me of back in the day when they were doing um the first
50:02
Lord of the Rings movie and they made that AI called massive yeah um which was
50:08
to just battle two armies against each other so they didn't have to
50:13
individually program everyone just had stats but they found out that weaker
50:17
players were just turning and running when they were up against stronger
50:22
adversaries yeah do you remember that game we talked about this I think in
50:26
early episodes of the show remember that game black and white that had the little
50:30
AI creature you could bash your tiger yeah you had well I like that's oh it's
50:36
the game where you punch animals that's what Luke
50:41
did God and you can you train your yes
50:45
and but if you something like I I must have it was you had a little creature
50:51
that ran around this island and you had little little villagers that lived on
50:54
the island and you could train the creatur do things by putting the leash
50:58
on him and then I accidentally at some point must have left the training leash
51:03
on while I got pissed off with the Villager and picked him up and threw him in the
51:06
ocean and so
51:10
started and I hear this like the [ __ ] Matt as you were
51:16
about to become a father I think there's a lesson in this that you can that you
51:20
can take make sure I take the leash off before I beat people in front of my
51:24
child monkey see monkey do
51:29
mhm so do we want to end on some geek of the weeks oh
51:35
perhaps I've got two got two here
51:39
two one we had a point out hit me man can't both be geek of the week that's is
51:45
that a rule probably that's a rule can't it can only be one I think is I think no
51:49
look you You' ruled in the past that you can have one but not two oh but you know
51:53
I just Chas your rules to how I feel on the B yeah true yeah all right well
51:57
we've got one was sent in uh by our
52:01
wonderful listener cognac Legion mhm and that is Tommy
52:07
liser Junior who junior you have to remember the junior who I did not know him by
52:12
name but I do know him by face he is the president from uh The Fifth Element yes
52:19
that's how I know him best and also just saw someone else's died as well on the
52:23
same website Barbara Windsor I don't know who that is
52:27
Oh I thought you would know she was picture from the Carry On movies the
52:33
what you know carryon movies
52:36
no carry carry on yeah like how this is why confused yeah I want to know why
52:42
does Luke think I would know that she's also from East Enders Matt come on I
52:47
don't know what that is that she that is sad though because she she played the
52:53
hot Dy blonde in the carry-on movies yeah yeah
52:58
carry on sad sad to think that she died of AIDS she couldn't carry on I'm still a
53:05
little shocked that Matt doesn't know the Carry On movies I don't know I've
53:08
never heard of them they were movies I think they were like
53:12
6070s where I was watching I was watching Columbo back then there were
53:18
like this group of people that just made all these movies and they were like the
53:22
Carry On movies so they all carry on nursing carry on boating like just mhm
53:27
and yeah she was the hot blonde oh yeah they would literally
53:33
chase her in fast motion Jesus Christ there's a lot of
53:37
them all right um but no we're we're
53:42
here we're here for tiny okay yes he was also in um The Dark
53:48
Knight he was the tattooed yeah who like talks down the
53:55
yeah play the big guy in quite a few
53:58
things yep and who who was the other one that we had who am I sighting against
54:04
Chuck Jagger he was the first person to break
54:09
the sound barrier wasn't he he may have been I just know him from the video
54:13
games that he had which were chuckas flight simulator the video games yeah I
54:18
think he was the first person to break the sound barrier and then he coded
54:22
these games himself as well did he wait no God no I was going to say what the
54:27
[ __ ] how is he not going to get geek of the
54:30
week mhm he was also the the subject of the movie The Right
54:36
Stuff was he the New Kids on the Block
54:40
movie yeah that's right I'm looking at the screenshots I'm
54:47
looking at the screenshot they using for the chucka games and I've played this
54:50
game it does say uh it was not the greatest flight team ever made um it
54:55
wasn't I ended up just says on the poster I end up doing a lot of nose D
55:00
and just watching my wings fall off and then I crash like
55:05
Icarus um all right so I've got to go between Chuck Yer and look I'm GNA have to go the
55:12
president from The Fifth Element go Chuck Jer was famous for shooting down
55:17
five Germans in a single day in World War II but oh during the war okay sorry
55:22
I had to I had to I had to clarify they don't mention the numbers after the war
55:27
ended that is an important caveat it was during war
55:31
time that doesn't uh that doesn't make a difference to you
55:37
Luke if he had have coded the games that would have been a bit
55:43
different sure yeah yeah I mean decorated fighter pilot but what else
55:47
has he done has he CED did he make a yeah he shot Germans in the 40s who's he
55:53
shot recently okay I'm got to point out being a decorated warfet it's not really
55:59
nerdy no no no no sure it could be hold
56:01
on hold on yeah I want to say nerdy
56:08
War well the US Army does have its own twitch channel does it there is there is
56:14
a instagrammer with the handle the nerdy
56:17
veteran oh uh oh no veterinarian he
56:22
likes he likes guns hunting and Zelda I think he call
56:27
I mean that's that's exactly what I would have expected a a ndy keep an eye
56:32
when he dies we we'll come back and we'll discuss be surprised if he didn't
56:36
like those things based on his Instagram name yeah true all right so I'm
56:41
surprised that the selder over Cod he wants Escape he's not a monster L
56:48
he's not a monster so look chucka while I did spend a lot of hours playing your
56:53
game I'm sorry you're dead but you didn't Cody yourself these are all
56:58
things you could have said to him while he was alive he wa to
57:02
get just listeners just just say something just say something you know
57:08
time so goes by so quickly don't end up like we tell chucker how you feel
57:12
listeners yeah tell CH leer that you liked his game and you're sorry that he's
57:20
dead but Tommy lisst geek of the week
57:25
G we GE it awake he did code his own game
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I guess since that's the new that's the new requirement for Geek of the week you
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must I just I just really like the fifth element and Friday I really don't like The Fifth
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Element I really don't like it I actively dislike it and I'm annoyed that
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all you like it because I'm either missing something or everyone me has
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terrible taste I think it's a good movie I know it's a fun movie
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says that and I've tried I've gone okay look take your brain away just no it's
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[ __ ] awful the acting is bad the [ __ ] characterization is awful I
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don't get it interesting I do not understand the appeal for me it's just
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fun and I like fun things I I think it's
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fun but I don't know I I just find the the the one thing I just find weird
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about that movie is the start of it where Luke Perry there because it's Luke Barry I like
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that's the only part of the movie I like I love that sequence I love that like
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that's when Luke Perry was at the height of his career and he was moving over to
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movies and did it for 5 minutes did he have a was there was yeah yeah there was
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only 902 and0 and then there was him trying to be in movies it should be
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there was Buffy as well oh yeah that was beforehand y Buffy 90210 Fifth Element
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and then that cowboy movie seconds that he did and then Riverdale and then he
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died Riverdale and then death y yeah he was coming for his big comeback everyone
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was loving him in RI Riverdale and then gone all right Luke
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Perry we give me another sorry what was that sorry give another run gonna give
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him another run at geek of the week a I think he's already he already was geek
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of the week wasn't he hey it's December are we going to do a geek of the year
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with our favorite dead of the last 12
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months well I mean we got a I think we probably call it now we'll see what Happ
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do we only go from people that we've given it to and then there's like the
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bet or can we just pick from anyone oh I think we should be able to pick from
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anyone cuz it seems a bit weird that they can get geek at a year when they
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didn't actually get geek at a week sometimes people go unnoticed what if we
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do this right Dan you and I will scour through the annals of all the dead
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people from this year we will wa through corpses I'm not finished yet I know that
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sounds fun but I'm not I'm not even done yet we will do that then we will each a
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nom yes and then Luke will will decide Al so we've got to Champion someone yes
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okay yeah you and I you have to convince me all and fantastic I'm if we end up
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picking the same person so be it we will not capable luk Luke and Luke can decide
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whether or not to give it to that person yes yep and and who knows what I'll be feeling
1:00:28
on that day like it's not like you can prepare for me to go luk will think this
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cuz I don't know what I'm going to say half the time so perhaps on this year's
1:00:35
Christmas special we can do that the multiple nasm holiday special I how have
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we not called it that before right so that I think we should have so
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geek you both come up with your idea for Geek of the year we should also come up
1:00:51
with your game of a year and movie of a year and television show a year oh you
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know what that's I like that yeah couple of those I could tell you
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right now at the top of my head but I won't write you can [ __ ] wa yeah Matt
1:01:05
get the Luke follows through on a thing jingle ready just in case just in case
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list if you've got something that you'd like us to say what we think is the best
1:01:13
for the year right in let us know and we will do it on our special submissions
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