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Show 213: Updates and apostasy · The Uncensored Catholic

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Speaker 1: A welcome this week's show. I'm back. Yes, I had
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to take a couple of weeks off. I know some
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of you have missed me, because amazingly enough people have
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actually messaged me to ask when I'm going to do
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another episode, which is nice. I really appreciate that. It's
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been a little crazy around here. I've been working on
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a new book and it's for a publisher, and publishers
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imposed deadlines, of course, and so I've had to devote
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quite a bit of time to writing recently. And then
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of course I mentioned probably last time we spoke that
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I had broken a tooth and had gotten infected and
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was taken antibiotics to get that straightened out. Well, it
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being you know, fourth of July, happens to land in July,
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and a lot of holidays and things, I've had trouble
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getting that thing scheduled. So I've had days when, like
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you know, infection goes away, comes back, goes away, comes back.
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Finally started treating it myself with oil of oregano, and
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that's helped a lot. But you know, there was a
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good week there where I just did not have a
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voice that was fit for for podcasting. But God willing
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I'm gonna get this tooth pulled and or cut out.
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There's actually not enough to pull on because it's completely gone,
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and I'll be able to get back on back on track. Here,
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we'll see. Actually, my dental surgeon said that next Thursday
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he thinks he can remove it. He's actually moved the
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appointment up from sometime mid August. Believe it or not.
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He said, you know, you need that thing out. This
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is just going on too long. He's having trouble with
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his uh the clinic he works for scheduling. He's he
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wanted to take it out immediately, and they're like, no,
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you got to go through this. You got to go
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through that. We got all this paperwork, we got all
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this blood, blood tests have to be done, we need
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all these X rays. And he's like, look, you know,
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this guy's got to have this tooth out of his
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mouth before he gets some infection that gets really serious. Yeah.
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So apparently they're finally listening to him and he's going
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to take the care of that. So say a prayer
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for me, if you would. Oh, so much has happened
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during the past few weeks. I think I mentioned before
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I took my little break that I was back on YouTube,
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and I've gotten all the uncensored Catholic podcasts up on
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YouTube now, plus on my Southern Appalachian herb podcasts and
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my herbal Medicine one oh one video course that I
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recorded about three years ago. So that's all. I almost
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almost got the entire thing up on YouTube. I've been
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adding about two videos a week. I don't want to
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overwhelm people, and I'm going to start doing a new
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series on that. I got a lot of plans. Actually,
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I'm getting fairly close to being monetized on YouTube in
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terms of subscribers, in terms of hours viewed, I am
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still way away. I mean, it's amazing. Subscribers are coming
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on pretty quickly, but I need a lot more hours
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viewed before I can actually start making a few bucks
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on YouTube. So I'm going to ask you please pass well.
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If you haven't already, please go to YouTube and watch
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my videos or listen to my podcast on there. Help
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me get some hours viewed. Subscribe if you haven't subscribed,
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but pass it on. Share it with friends, family, loved ones.
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Please help me grow the audience, because you know, the
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more hours viewed which are free to you, you know
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it don't cost you a thing to watch. YouTube puts
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me to word that monetization I've actually got to get.
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I don't even remember. Was it four thousand hours viewed
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before I can monetize the channel and something like a
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thousand subscribers. I'm almost I'm almost up to five hundred subscribers,
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so that's coming along pretty well. But I'm still sitting
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there at like less than four hundred hours viewed. You know,
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people are like, this is great content, this is wonderful,
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and I'm like, gosh, I wish you'd just you know,
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watch it all the way to the end or share
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it with a couple of friends. That would really help
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me out a lot. That would really help me out
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a lot more. If I could start generating a little
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revenue off of YouTube, it gives me more time to
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do podcasts like this. It gives me more time to
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do new videos I want to start. I want to
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do continue the herbal Medicine one O one series. I
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also want to teach people, you know, like primitive skills,
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a lot of foraging. We'll start with foraging, but you know,
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going out and like you know, making fire with anything
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from a pharaoh rod to a bow, drill to a
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resnel wins. I mean, you know, primitive camping, fishing and
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survival type stuff. Cooking. I want to do some you know,
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I do a lot of cooking, and I got I
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guess two cookbooks published, another one in the mind. It's
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not in the workshet, but it's going to be coming along.
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So from herbs to foraging, to cooking, to living off
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the land, gardening and homesteading, wood carving. A lot of
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people said, you know you carve beautiful spoons. Can you
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show me how to do it? Well, yeah, I probably can,
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but I have to have time to do that. So
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if you can help me out where the audience really
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appreciate it. And if you haven't subscribed yet, please subscribe. Also,
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got you know I'm doing guitar mandolin videos on there.
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That's something I knew. I started since, I know, since
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the last time I spoke with you. I started doing
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mandolin videos. If you ever want to learn how to
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play the mandolin, I break it down step by step,
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so simple, and we're starting out with just some simple
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blues tunes, same stuff I've been doing on the guitar,
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and you learn that, and you can learn any genre
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of music So if you know anyone that has ever
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expressed an interest in wanting to learn and play the
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mandolin for you, free lessons. Free lessons from a guy
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used to be a professional musician to so extent. I mean,
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I was never a big name, but I played with
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a lot of pretty famous people. Actually, So that's that's good.
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That's what I've been doing. Of course, we've had some
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serious storms, tropical storms, flash floods and all that, so
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that's been another thing to add to the list that's
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been fun. But the other thing that is kind of interesting.
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I wanted to share this with you about well, it
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was actually July four, July four, I got an email
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from a new social media platform. Now I am not
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going to mention the name of said social media platform
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because I did not tell them that our communication would
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be public. I haven't asked permission, not that I would
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need it, but I don't like to betray a confidence.
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When someone tells me something, I do my best not
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to repeat it. Okay, I think you know, Father Spiago
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had a whole chapter on that when we were going
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through the Catechism about how you know, keep confidences, confidences,
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don't tell everybody's business around town. So I try to
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do that. I don't want to slander or gossip or anything,
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but this is true. It they said they were a
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new Christian social media platform, and as a Christian podcaster,
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they wanted me on board. So it's going to be
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an alternative to Twitter, it's going to be an alternative Facebook,
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it's going to be all that. And I said, okay,
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that's cool. You know, it's gonna be actumenical. They're going
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to have people in there from all denominations. Yeah, I'll
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sign up. I'll look into that. Well, they also wanted
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me to allow them to market my podcast, okay, and
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it was actually a pretty big opportunity. I'm not going
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to tell you the full name of it. That has
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the name Acts in it, like Acts the Book of
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the Bible, right, I'm not sure they ever actually read
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the Book of Acts because uh yeah, we'll get into
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that in just sec So anyway, it would have been
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a big opportunity. It probably would have taken my Catholic
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podcast to well, they said, millions of people all around
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the world. It couldn't have been a lot of money,
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could have been a big career move, big boost in
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the profile. And I thought, well, this is you know,
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this is cool. I'll look into it and pray about it.
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Let's see how this goes well. In order to become
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a podcast on their platform, you had to check all
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these boxes, you know, and it's them. That's fine. They
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want to make sure that Christians are actually the people
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on there are in a line with their Christian doctrine. Well,
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I kind of had a feeling it was a Protestant
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platform to start with because I was like one of
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the only Catholics on there, and they had groups for
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you know, like Baptists and Lotherds and all this, and
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they didn't have any Catholic groups. So I established a
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Catholic group and like one person signed up for it
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who was actually Catholic. I think that probably the only
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other Catholic on the entire social media a platform signed
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up for it. So I started going through it, and
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it's their statement, you know, on you're not supposed to cuss. Okay,
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I can do that, no problem. I don't really cuss
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in the first place. If you do a video podcast,
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they want you to be well dressed and nothing, no newdy, nothing,
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you know, anything like sure, okay, that's no problem. Yeah,
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they said you know, they want their team to represent them. Well,
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you're not supposed to do anything immoral and that gets
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in the press. That's going to make them look bad. Okay,
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no problem. I got that they believe in the sanctity
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of life. Great, we're totally percent on, one hundred percent
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on board on that. They oppose gay marriage. Great, we're
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one hundred percent on board on that. I noticed they
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didn't mention divorce. They're they're against adultry, they're against gay
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marriage and all that, but not divorce. Okay, something and yeah,
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this is probably protest of platform. So I'm going but
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everything's pretty cool, you know, I'm not seeing any major
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red flags. And then we get down to the final
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paragraph and they wanted me to confirm that the Bible
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alone was the only authority on matters of faith moral doctrine. WHOA.
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Then they said that they, the company running this site,
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was the ultimate authority on interpreting scripture. Yeah, so every
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single person of every denomination that is going to be
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a participant in their they call it creators platform has
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to say one that the Bible alone is the sole
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authority and that them, the owner of the company, and
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their staff are the only authority essentially on earth able
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to interpret the Bible and tell you what it means. Wow. Okay,
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So and that was supposed to be a legal binding statement.
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I actually had to you know, official signature, a legal name,
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swear and attest to it. And I went back to him,
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I said, you know, I think this is great. It
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sounds like a great idea. But you know, as a Catholic,
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I can't sign this. And they come back to me
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why not, I said, well, because that would be essentially
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to renounce my Catholic faith. We do not believe in
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the Bible, those soul authority. First of all, we believe
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in the Bible, with the union of you know, the Magisterium,
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the unwritten in the Bible, extra biblical I, as you
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would say, the words of the apostles, as actually given
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to those that they taught, the oral tradition of the
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Church that began to be written down by the early
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church fathers, essentially beginning beginning with I guess what the
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third or fourth pope, Pope, Saint Pope Saint Clement. Let
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me think you know, in Mass they started naming the
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Peter Linus Cletus Clement. Is that right? I think? So?
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I'm thinking it's the fourth pope. He was actually ordained
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by Saint Peter, So you know, that was the time
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of martyrdom. A lot of popes didn't make it more
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than a year or two, and so by at least
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AD they were writing down pretty profusely. I mean Clement,
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what Polycarp, Yeah, a lot of them, well, either Saint
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Barnabas or one of his students, who of course is
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mentioned in the Bible as being Saint Paul's companion. They
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were writing down exactly what they learned from the apostles themselves,
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and that forms the basis of really so much of
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our doctrine. I mean, monogamous marriage is not spelled out
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in the Bible. It comes from the early Church fathers.
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The Doctor of the Trinity is not explained it in
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the least in the Bible. It comes from the early
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church fathers. I could go on and on church on Sunday. Again,
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not explained in the Bible. It comes from the early
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church fathers. And I tried to explain this, and I said,
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and then there's also another issue. We use two different Bibles.
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And I explained to him how it took so many
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years for Saint Jerome to translate all the books of
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the Bible into Latin. The Council of Nicea gave guidance
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the same where we get the nice and Creed gave
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guidance as to which books would go into the canon
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of Christian scripture, the real Bible, and it was not
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formalized until you know, several years after that, decades after that,
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and then a long time. I mean, and we've got
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you know, the one Christian Bible for a good thousand
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years plus that everybody's using except for you know, the
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heretical sex like the Gnostics and Aarians and all that
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which you know, Nicia condemned and all that who came
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up with false copy of the Bible that you know
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had to be condemned. The Church said, these aren't real Bibles.
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And for you know, many years we had the Biblios
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sacraville God, or the Nicean Bible as it was often
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referred to, even though the Council, when I see you
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just gave guidance anyway, Saint Jerome's work essentially and the
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Church approved Bible. Then Martin Luther comes up about a
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thousand years ago, changes the words of Jesus to fit
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his false doctrine cuts out books that disagree. And I say,
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and I said to him, you know, look, as a Catholic,
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I'm going to talk about prayers for the dead impurgatory,
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and I'm going to cite a biblical reference. I'm going
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to go to the Book of Maccabees. How are you,
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as a Protestant, supposed to use your Bible that have
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the Book of Maccabees to tell me whether my doctrine's
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true or not. I mean, that was one example, another
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intercession of angels. And I said, tobe it. And then
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I said, and then even when it comes to your Bible,
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you know, Catholics believe in the real presence of of Jesus,
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and the Eucharists you deny it. We believe that marriage
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is indissoluble, and we don't believe in divorce. Every Protestant
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nomination believes in divorce. How are you and who gave
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you this authority in the first place? And you know,
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basically I was very polite. I said, look, I'm very acumenical.
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If we can sign a statement saying we, you know,
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agree to different to disagree on the on topics that
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differ between our denominations, I'm fine with that. You let
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me give real Catholic teaching on my podcast, and you
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teach you know, your denomination on your podcast. And we
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agree where we can, and we don't agree. We disagree
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on other things. We don't need to argue about it.
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We understand that these two denominations, or my denomination versus
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your fifty thousand denominations, all of which disagree with each other, disagree.
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And I said, and besides, you know, Orthodox folks are
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going to have are not going to be assigned this either.
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Traditional Anglicans that have their Articles of Faith are not
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going to be able to sign your document. And I said,
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but you know, really that's a really small percentage of
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the population. Most of the Christians in the world are Catholic.
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So if you'll work with me, I'll help you reach
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billions of Catholics in this world. And they said, no,
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you know, you can't be part of our platform. So
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you know, I was talking with Steve Cunningham and I
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was telling him about this, and I said, I said,
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you know, we're both from the Carolina's. He's from Calpin's,
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South Carolina originally, and now you losen I think Belmont
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near Charlotte, North Carolina. You know, my family's been in
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North South Carolina for centuries. When our ancestors first came here,
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in order to own property and vote, you had to
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assign what was called the oath. The oath was swearing
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allegiance essentially to the British government and renouncing Catholicism. And
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I said to him, the oath is still alive and
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well in social media, and I summarized it basically like
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I have for you. And he says, it's nuts. It's
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just nuts. He said. They reject the pope as the
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one who has authority to dictate doctrine and even give,
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you know, excommunicate people. But Protestants do not hesitate to
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declare who's Christian who's not. Essentially every Protestant is his
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own pope. I mean he didn't say this, but I'm
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extrapolating on it, saying this is what's true doctrine. And
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I reject you as a Christian. You're not a real
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Christian because you don't agree with me. And isn't that
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amazing the way they the very thing they protest about
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a protest against essentially the papacy, they make themselves their
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own pope, and no wonder they all disagree with each other,
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no one of their fifty thousand denominations. But in his words,
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they think they're the gatekeepers of who's Christian and not.
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I'm telling you, y'all, I mean that blew my mind,
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honestly blew my mind that people would still one, that
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they would be so presumptuous, but people would still be
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so ignorant. I guess it shouldn't you know. I went
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to a southern Babtage University, which that's exactly what they
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were teaching when I which is basically why they asked
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me to leave the school. When I became Catholic, I
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was no longer one of them, and they didn't think
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I was a real Christian. But you know, you're given
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so many opportunities in life, and this really is the
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temptation of Satan, if you will. Yeah, I could have essentially,
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I could have lied by checking that box or renounced
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my faith by checking that box and made a lot
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of money and probably become very famous, probably become one
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of those people you see on TV commenting about you know,
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social and cultural religious issues. And I said, no, no,
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it's not worth it. And I didn't even have to
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think about it, but very little has changed in in
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you know, five hundred and some years. I think of
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Saint Thomas Moore. He had been one of the well
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He was considered to be the best attorney in England,
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and he was also a theologian, and he was a
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counselor to the king, and he was one of the
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most powerful men in England. And because he would not
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approve of King Henry the Yight's divorce and would not
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renounce Catholicism, he was imprisoned and beheaded. And his nephew
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comes to visit, and this is I think this comes
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from a man from all seasons. I don't know if
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this really happened. It probably did, you know, it's a
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fictionalized account. But anyway, he comes to him and says, uncle,
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you know, all you have to do is give approval
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to the king's divorce and acknowledge his authority as the
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religious ruler of England. And basically you don't have to
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believe it, you just have to say it. And he said,
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you know, he couldn't do that, said uncle, why are
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you in there? It's so easy, And he looks at
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his nephew and says, the question is not why I
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am in here, it's why are you out there? And
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you know, for me, it was just that easy to
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walk away from it. Not the first time I've had
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to do that. I have several jobs and opportunities I've
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missed out on because I wasn't because I'm admitted open
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Catholic and because they were Protestant or they were Freemasons
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and such. Yeah, political positions, all kinds of opportunities, and
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in social life, I mean I lost most of all
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my friends really when I became Catholic. A fiance who
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originally I guess she thought she was going to win
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me over and make me convert to Catholicism, I mean
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to Presbyterianism, and I explained to her that our children
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were going to be raised Catholic. She left me. You know.
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Another time, I was very involved engaged to a girl
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from a Mormon family. She was ready to convert, she
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was one hundred percent on board. She rejected Mormonism and
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was ready to start I r RCIA classes. So basically
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her family kidnapped her. I'm serious, like a reprogramming center.
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I mean, the Mormon Church, the Olds Church is a cult.
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It is not a valid Christian religion, and they are
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they do stuff like that, they really do so anyway,
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not the first time, probably won't be the last time.
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But my only advice is it's good to be acumenical
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when we can. It's good to work with other with Protestants,
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it's good to work with Protestants, It's good to work
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with Jews. It's good to work with Muslims and Buddhists.
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When we agree on certain issues like the sanctity of life, marriage,
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you know, peace and safety for other people, mutual respect,
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we should always try to work with them where we can.
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We can never violate our core beliefs and principles. When
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someone says to you you essentially have to renounce Catholicism
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to have this job, or to marry this you know,
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beautiful woman, or to you know, whatever be accepted in
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your town or community. You just have to ask is
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it worth it? Is it worth? I mean? You know,
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remember Satan said when he tempted Jesus in the desert,
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he'd give him all the wonderful things in the world.
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You have to ask yourself every time is it really
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worth it? Is it worth? Eternity? And hell? Is it worth?
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You know? One thing on this earth that is passing away,
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that doesn't last for more than a brief instant, you
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knowing your life and really nothing in this world lasts.
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Is it worth eternity? It's not. It's just not. And yeah,
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uh so many people. I mean, you think about all
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all the you know, good Catholic kids both you know,
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of all kinds of backgrounds. But I mean we always
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think of the mafia's Italian, but you know there's I mean,
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the Irish have been involved in organized organized crime that
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you can name it right. Organized crime is pretty widespread,
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and even though even in the South what they used
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to call the good old Boy system is essentially Protestant
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version of organized crime. But you think about all the
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you know kids that grow up, they go to Catholic school,
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they have good parents, they're baptized to confirm they're fully catechized,
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and you know, they get to a certain age and
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you know, someone offers them a job and next thing
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you know, they're their mobsters, their murderers. You know what happens. Now,
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they make that compromise, they make that compromise, and they
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usually don't even realize that first compromise it's made. You know,
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it's always a slippery slope and suddenly you're in too
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deep and you can't get out. You know, I've known
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several actual mobsters. You know, you work in politics. You
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live in a resort area of the mountains where a
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lot of folks come in from New York in the
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summertime when they're ferraris and their porsches and their big
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grand homes and everything. Yeah, I've known several people, and
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a lot of them consider themselves to be Catholics and
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go to Mass. One of them actually was a major
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funder of our church. You know, they believe all the
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teachings of the Catholic Church. They got blood on their hands.
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And what are you gonna do that You got to
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before you get into, before you get too far, draw
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the line, say no, I cannot do it, I cannot
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do this, I cannot compromise. And of course that happens
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in everybody's personal life too, the temptations of the world,
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the sins that we all commit, you know, on a
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smaller level, but when it took when you're actually have
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to renounce your faith to get a job, forget it.
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Forget it. It's not worth it. It really is not worth it.
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So I guess that's got you caught up. I'll get
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a couple of questions and answers out of radio replies,
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and we'll get back to Father Spirago next week. So
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you may remember where we left off. I'm not sure
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I do. Let me check quick, okay. So the question
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asked the priest, this is very interesting and it's a
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very odd way of thinking. But I have heard people
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say this before. First of all, last week, the last
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question ask was is it doctrine that the soul of
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man is immortal? And the priest of course through yes,
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and explain why this person goes on And this is
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a very odd person, but obviously a very intelligent person's
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very misguided and someone I've encountered before may have been
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a Jehovah's witness. We had a conversation on these lines.
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But anyway, the person's second question, well as actually statement
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he posits, man has not got a soul. That's poor grammar,
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but anyway, man has not got a soul, he is
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a soul. Genesis two seven says that man became a
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living soul. That's a really odd way of looking at it.
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I mean, it's almost like denying physical reality. It's metaphysical,
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I think anyway. Anyway, they answer that does not deny
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the distinction between body and soul and man. If God
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breathed a living soul in a man's body, then man's
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body is a distinct thing, and man is rightly said
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to possess both body and a soul. To say that
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a man is a living soul is but a use
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of a figure of speech alluding to the complete thing
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by the name of its principal part. No, it wasn't.
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I'm remembering back. It wasn't Jehovah's witness. What was Mary
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Baker Eddie's thing? Christian science? I think it was a
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Christian scientist. Actually, yeah, I think it was. Yeah. Anyway, anyway,
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they go on a man saying that he intends to
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take sel for Europe does not prove that the boat
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is a sail and that it is not God a sail.
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The immortality of the soul and its distinction for the
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body are obvious in scripture. Thus we read, the souls
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of the just are in the hands of God hand
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of God. The torment of death shall not touch them.
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In the sight of the unwise, they seem to die.
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That's from the Book of wisdom. Christ said, fear not
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them that kill the body, but are not able to
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kill the soul Matthew ten twenty eight. If the body
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is soul were not separate things, one could not be
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killed without the other. Saint Paul remarks, while we are
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in the body, we are absent from the Lord second
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Corinthians five six. When he was out of the body,
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he expected to be present to the Lord. But if
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the soul is dead, it is present to no one. Again,
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he desired that the union of the body and soul
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should be dissolved in order that he might be with Christ.
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A think he declared far better Philippiums one twenty three,
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or again in Hebrews nine twenty seven. It is appointed
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and de man wants to die, and after this his judgment.
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Judgment follows death and the dead body not being able
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to give an account of itself. Then it is the
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living soul which experiences judgment. The person continues. Immortality was
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unknown to the Jews and was rejected by the Sadducees
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because it was not in the penate. Oh, I have
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trouble that word to always have. I'm sure I've never
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pronounced this right. Pitouch p E n T A T
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E U c H. They answer, the immortality of the
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soul was well known to the Jews. The Sadducees were
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a small minority who were remarkable among the Jews precisely
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because they denied it. The majority of the Jews therefore
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held it. They were well aware of the apparition of
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the soul of Samuel to Saul, and first Samuel kings,
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what is it? Kings? Twenty eight fifteen. Our Lord quoted
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the pinitouch pinetouch, I don't know against the Sadducees, proving
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the immortality from Exodus three six. I am the God
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of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
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And he said he is not the God of the dead,
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but the God of the living. In other words, it
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is not was their god. Fella continues. David asked what
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shall deliver? What man shall deliver his soul from the
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grave Psalms eighty nine, forty eight. And they answer, this
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verse means that no one can avoid death and free
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his soul from the necessity of being separated from the body.
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He continues, and does he not say he returneth to
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the earth, and in that day all his thoughts shall
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perish Psalms one forty six four. And they answer, when
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a man's soul departs from his body, that body returns
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to dust, and all his thoughts and schemes for this
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earthly life are over. He continues. Ecclesiastes three nineteen. Tell
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Us tells us that the death of man and beasts
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is equal, and that man hath no pre eminence over
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the beasts. And they answer, human experience does show us
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that man can no more escape death than the beasts.
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But man's condition is not the same, for his soul
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lives on still, capable of knowledge, love, happiness, and misery. Thus,
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the same book, in chapter twelve seven tells us the
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dust shall return to the earth as it was, and
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the spirit shall return to the God who gave it.
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The fate of the soul differs from the body. Let's see,
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I'll get maybe two, maybe three more questions. This guy
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goes on for a bit. Let's see, we can try
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to wrap it up though on this topic, he says,
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But in nine five we read the dead know not anything,
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neither have they any moral reward, for the memory of
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them is forgotten, and the presnswer those last words obviously
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show that it is useless to depend upon a reward
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as far as a recognition by fellow men is concerned.
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The writers speaking from the point of view of people
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still living in this world to all practical purposes. As
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far as this world is concerned, the dead are removed
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from this world and know not anything as far as
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the evidence of our own senses goes. But that the
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soul has passed beyond the conditions of life as we
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know them does not prove that the souls of the
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departed are not quite conscious of their condition. In one
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Peter three nineteen, we are told that Christ preach to
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the souls of the departed. Such a proceeding implies that
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they were conscious of his doctrine. He continues, Ezekiel eighteen
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eighteen four says, the soul that sinneth it shall die,
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and they answer the word soul here does not refer
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exclusively to the immortal part of man's nature. Ezekiel's pointing
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out not only the sins of our parents, but also
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each man's own personal and individual sins deserve punishment. In
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verse twenty four, he says that if the just man
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turned from his righteousness and do evil, he shall die,
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and all his righteousness shall not be remembered, but his
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prevarications will be remembered. A thing which will matter nothing
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to the soul if it merely ceases to exist, but
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very much indeed if it still be living. And he says,
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you quoted the text, Fear not them that are able
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to kill the soul. But Christ went on to say,
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fear them who can destroy both body and soul. And
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they answer, Christ meant that we should fear God rather
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than men. Men have Men have no influence in one's
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final judgment, whatever they may do to the body. But
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God cannot only destroy the body. He can condemn the
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soul to an eternal existence, which is destruction, indeed, the
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wreckage of all one's hopes and desires. It is simply
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a living death forever. And the guy continues. Saint Paul says,
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the cross to them, indeed that perish is foolishness. But
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to them that are saved the power of God First
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Corinthians one eighteen. And they answer, all, whether good or bad, perish.
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As far as this earthly life is concerned by natural deaths,
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The cross is folly to those who are spiritually dead
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in sin. When the man commits serious sin, he drives
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God's grace out of his soul. His soul is then
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dead to a spiritual and supernatural life until he recovers
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God's grace by repentance. And he says, but Saint Paul
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tells us that Jesus alone hath immortality one Timothy six sixteen,
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And they answer. He means that through Christ alone can
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man attain to everlasting happiness. That he intends not immortality
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is such, but a happy immortality is clear from his
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immediate addition of the words dwelling in the light as
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opposed to unending darkness and eternal misery. And the person
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will stop here. He says, the doctrine of the resurrection
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of the dead denies that the soul is still living,
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and the answer it does not. It refers to the
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resurrection of the body. If a individual soul ceases to exist,
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there could be no resurrection of the same personality. The
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material body would be recalled, but another soul would have
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to be created. This would mean two successive personalities, of
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which the second would not be the first. Deny the
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immortality of the soul, and you deny any possibility that
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you or yourself will rise again, and isn't that interesting?
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So it kind of brings us back to the point
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we were talking about a minute ago, that one can
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be very knowledgeable of the Bible and get everything they
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read wrong. I mean, here's a guy who is probably
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considers himself to be a Christian. He can quote from
35:50
the Bible extensively. He seems to have memorized great passages
35:55
of the Bible, from the Old Testament to the New Testament,
35:58
and somehow comes up with the exact opposite doctrine of
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that which Jesus and his apostles taught the immortality of
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the soul, that when we die, the soul lives on
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and either goes to heaven or health, and there will
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be a final resurrection of the last Day. Even though
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it specifically explains that in the Bible, somehow he reads
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the words and comes up with the exact opposite conclusion.
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That's amazing, but that's the human mind. I remember speaking
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with someone whose mother had recently passed away, and he
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was a very evangelical Baptist, did Bible studies and Sunday
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school and went all the retreats and mission trips and
36:44
ruined big Baptists right and he had just had an
36:47
argument because his sister told him that their mother was
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in heaven. And he said that his understanding the Bible
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and his preacher had told him that no one was
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in heaven. No one in heaven except Jesus be there
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until the end of time and you know, the end
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of the world and arm again and all that. And
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I was like, dude, you realize, you realize that what
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you're saying is one of the main reasons that you know,
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the Jews demanded that Jesus be killed because he promised
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that those who believed in him in him would go
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to heaven when they died, and that made him equal
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with God. And the Jews said that was blasphemy and
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you're dell essentially adopting the same position of those who
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killed Jesus. And I mean, that wasn't the sole reason
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why they did, but that was a big part of it, right,
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And he couldn't believe it, and I mean just railed
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at me and said that, you know, he believed that
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nobody was in heaven because the Bible told him that.
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And I'm like, what Bible are you reading? The King James,
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I'm like, dude, I mean I have got. I grew
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up on the King James. I've read the King James,
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and I started quoting him the words of Christ. And
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he wouldn't believe. He would not believe it. I said,
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what about what we said to the fief on the cross,
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This day you will be with me in heaven. This
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day you will be with me in heaven. He couldn't answer. That,
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could not answer at all. And I mean, but yeah,
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the reason we have to hold strong and true to
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the Catholic Church as the one authority on earth to
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which God gave the power to interpret scripture and teach doctrine,
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theology and morals in his name, with his authority, with
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the very authority of God, is because everybody else gets
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it so wrong. There's only one truth. There's only one truth. Therefore,
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if I say, you know today is I don't even
39:06
know what day. This is Thursday, and you say it's Friday, Well,
39:12
unless we're in two very different time zones, both of
39:14
us can't be right. Okay. If I say it's day
39:16
and you say it's night, both of us can't be right.
39:19
If I say abortion is murder and murder is sin
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and you say abortion is not murder and not sin.
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Both of us can't be right. We can go down
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that list. Well, every single Protestant denomination differs with the other,
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and there are anywhere between forty and sixty thousand of
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them considered, depending on how you count them. And every
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single Protestant denomination disagrees with the doctrines of the Catholic Church.
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There's only one truth. Now, let's think about this. Logically,
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there was no church other than the Catholic Church until
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the Orthodox broke away. What was that around ten fifty
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ten eighty something like that, Right, there was no Christian
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Church other than the Catholic Church and the little breakoff
40:05
schism of the Orthodox Church, which essentially still taught everything
40:09
that the Catholic Church taught, except they wouldn't acknowledge the
40:13
authority of the pope. And a little something called the filoquy,
40:15
which is a really stupid objection to the Catholic doctrine
40:20
of the Trinity as opposed to their understanding of the
40:22
Trinity that nobody can even really explain. Okay, basically, they
40:27
just rejected the pope, so the authority of the pope.
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There was really no other doctrine than that of the
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Christian doctrine than that of the Catholic Church until Martin
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Lutheran the Protestants in the late fourteen hundreds. So for
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almost fifteen hundred years, there's only one church, and it's
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the Catholic Church. There's only one Christian doctrine, and it's
40:52
the Catholic doctrine. Everything else was by the universally condemned
40:57
as heresy and apostasy, whether it was the Gnostics and
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the Arians, and you know, all that only one Christian doctrine,
41:06
only one Christian Church, only one Bible, you know, I
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mean there were other translations of the Bible that began
41:13
to be made. I mean, what was Saint Francis to sell?
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What was he around eleven hundred? I'd have to double
41:20
check Saint Francis to sell even in I think his
41:24
second book talks about how, you know, there were more
41:27
popular translations of the Bible at the time, but he
41:31
liked the Nicean Bible and that was the authority for
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him because that's the you know, the authorized version of
41:36
the Bible by the Catholic Church. And I see in
41:40
Bible was you know, as I explained, Counsel and Nicia
41:43
kind of set out parameters of this was going to
41:45
be and within a few decades we had the Bible
41:48
to Bilius sacra volgada, and you know, different translations were
41:53
made of it. But he had to agree with that,
41:56
so he was Spanish. S Francis sell is Spanish. He
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liked to he was a Spanish language Bible for ease
42:02
of reading, but only if it agreed with the Latin Bible,
42:06
of the Visual Bible of the Church. So in order
42:10
to adopt the Protestant belief, you would have to believe
42:17
that all of Christianity got it wrong from the original
42:22
twelve Apostles on through the next fifteen centuries until Martin
42:29
Luther came along and said, oh, you know, Jesus didn't
42:33
really mean it, and started changing his words in the Bible,
42:37
cutting out books of the Bible, and completely changing Christian
42:40
doctrine to the point that he encouraged murder and adultery.
42:44
So we can't compromise on such things as who has
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the authority to interpret scripture and define doctrine. It's the
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one institution established by Jesus his church. So anyway, y'all, well,
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try to get back on schedule. Can I try to
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do one a week here. I may have to go
43:07
a little early next week if I'm having dental surgery
43:09
on Thursday. We'll see how that goes. But anyway, say
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