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Sí Se Puede: Ask for Help, Build Connections, and Trust Your Journey · The Lawtino™

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Latino Podcast, where we amplify the voices of Latino professionals, entrepreneurs, and leaders coming together to educate, inspire, and connect across one of the most dynamic binational regions in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bicultural, premium, powerful.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hey, Sean Gomez with another episode of the Latino.
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  SPEAKER_05: We are engaged in our special series of the episodes and podcasts here in Washington, D.C.
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  SPEAKER_05: We are here at the Hispanic National Bar Association's annual conference.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're connecting with uh leaders, lawyers, law students, friends from the Hispanic National Bar Association, learning a little bit about them.
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  SPEAKER_05: This episode, as always, is brought to you by Gomez Trial Attorneys.
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  SPEAKER_05: We are an international consumer rights law firm with offices both in the United States and Mexico.
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  SPEAKER_05: We are bi-national.
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  SPEAKER_05: We offer the very highest legal representation both in the English and Spanish languages, with cultural sensitivity.
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  SPEAKER_05: What kind of cases do we do?
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  SPEAKER_05: We do cases involving personal injury, employment harms, mass torts, class actions, and civil rights violations.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm here with my co-host, also a member of the law firm at Gomez Trial Attorneys, David Arreguin, who leads up our Mexico U.S.
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  SPEAKER_05: corridor practice and is in charge of outreach with other lawyers across the country.
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  SPEAKER_05: David, uh, I know you ran into our next guest.
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  SPEAKER_05: They showed a lot of enthusiasm and excitement.
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  SPEAKER_05: I have to push them a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_05: I have to push them a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna get them on now, we're gonna hear a little bit about them.
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  SPEAKER_05: So please introduce our next guest.
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  SPEAKER_03: Of course, and we'll do John.
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  SPEAKER_03: And one of the things that we missed uh to state here at this conference is that we're the largest Latino-owned uh law firm in California, maybe the nation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh so we're very proud of that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh so you know, yesterday, like you go to the little registration desk with HMBA, uh, and then you meet like these wonderful people, law students who are volunteering for this incredible conference.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we heard a lot from our guests that you know they started as law student members, and the I feel like the HMBA does a great job of retaining its members.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean they're here, they're excited, welcome.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for agreeing after a little push.
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  SPEAKER_03: It took me like a day and a half to get them on, but they're here, our last guest for these callers, so we're excited.
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  SPEAKER_03: Amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Generally, what we ask people to tell is your name, what you do, what law schools you are in, and why you're here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, my name is Anna Wacker.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am a third-year law student at the Ohio State Moritz College of Law.
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  SPEAKER_05: The Ohio State.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Ohio State.
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  SPEAKER_02: You gotta say the the.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I learned that pretty quickly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm originally from Texas, so I grew up there, went to college there, and ended up at Ohio because it was a great small law school, which I was really excited about.
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  SPEAKER_02: But um I came to the HNBA conference because I was really missing my Latino community, and I couldn't really access that in law school.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, diversity is still something that we're working on for Latino lawyers, so it's been fun to just kind of be in the cradle of Hispanic culture this week and to see other people that look like me and are involved in the profession and feel really inspired by the work they do.
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  SPEAKER_05: Amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: My name is Elian del Campo.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am uh twoel at the George Washington the George Washington University Law School.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you got a basketball team?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, we are great in sports, I've heard.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm and I went to the NYU, which also has amazing sports uh for undergrad.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I came to DC uh just because I feel like it's a great place to study law.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm originally from Mexico City in Madrid, and I was missing I did get a little like chilanga from you.
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  SPEAKER_03: I came from Mexico City, so I can say I'm Chilanga.
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  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I saw family.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so it's an amazing place.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel like when I came to DC, even at my law school, our Latino community is very small, and I was missing that from home, just from my family and just everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to create that community here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And also, as a first generation, I felt like I needed to meet people like me, to connect with people like me, and this was a great opportunity to do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm very grateful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm thinking I'm gonna get you on the Mexico committee.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the America Bar Association has a Mexico committee, and most of those the members are from Mexico City.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, there we go.
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  SPEAKER_03: But the Mexico committee, it's all Mexico City people.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'll I'll be there in December.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was just there too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, amazing.
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  SPEAKER_05: All right, guys.
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  SPEAKER_05: So um you're in your third year.
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  SPEAKER_05: So uh what are you thinking you might want to be doing with your career going forward?
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  SPEAKER_05: Do you have plans?
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  SPEAKER_05: Is it open?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, I do have plans.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'll be at a big firm starting in the fall after passing the bar, god willing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, I want to do cybersecurity and data privacy work.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I worked prior to law school and data analytics.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it gave me a good understanding of that field, and now I just want to do it from the legal side, which I think will be a lot of fun, pretty interesting.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I'm excited to have met other Latino lawyers that do that work here to kind of get an understanding of what it looks like.
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  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I'm looking forward to the fall.
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  SPEAKER_05: Where's that gonna be?
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  SPEAKER_05: Where are you gonna be working?
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  SPEAKER_02: I will be at Jones Day in Columbus in the fall.
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  SPEAKER_05: In Columbus.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: They have an office air.
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  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_05: You ready to work?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm ready to work.
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  SPEAKER_05: I spent my first uh almost five years at Latham and Watkins in Los Angeles.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I remember uh You know how to work.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I remember some good work.
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  SPEAKER_05: Big law work, long hours.
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  SPEAKER_03: You were telling so you were telling a story yesterday.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh no, I don't want to scare.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've heard the stories, I can take it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: So, like, you know, uh Latham is Jones Day, all these firms, you know, you gotta work, like we said.
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  SPEAKER_05: And so I I remember uh one day I went in on a Monday, I had like three big motions due that week.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I didn't go home until Monday.
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  SPEAKER_05: Wednesday.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I didn't sleep for two nights.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, and I was driving at the time I was um working, I was living in Santa Monica, I was working downtown LA, and I would drive the same way every day, but I got lost on my way home from uh sleep deprivation.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, you live in Venice.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I went to Venice, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: So uh so I but you'll manage your your time much better than me, I'm sure.
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  SPEAKER_05: But congratulations, that's an amazing firm.
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  SPEAKER_05: Sounds like an amazing opportunity for you.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, how about you?
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  SPEAKER_05: What are you gonna be doing?
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, you're only a 2L.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm a 2L.
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  SPEAKER_05: I have no idea.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just found out what I liked, so yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you just found out what you liked?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like in law.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I like consumer protection and I like labor unemployment.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think it's like yeah, funny.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I I'm hoping to maybe like extern somewhere this spring in consumer protection and then see what I can find for the summer.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just type taking classes and continue to learn, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, maybe she can stop by San Diego, you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so um how did you get exposed to that like uh consumer rights stuff?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I really liked um, I didn't I come from education, like my background was in education, so nothing really related to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then I was open to just kind of exploring a little bit more in law school, and I took like my torts class, and honestly, I've just I was exposed like through there, and I would just ask my professor about all the cases that we would talk about and the product liability consumer side area I really liked.
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  SPEAKER_01: So now I'm taking a consumer protection class and I love it too.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's from 6 p.m.
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  SPEAKER_01: to 9 p.m.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow, but my professor keeps it on my UNAS.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: On Thursdays too, but it's bar review right after.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we we finish consumer protection, then we go to the bar right after.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's good.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's up to you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I gotta check it out.
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  SPEAKER_01: It works out.
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  SPEAKER_03: So John uh joined Unam.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's taking a diploma on the city.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
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  SPEAKER_05: He was a same more hours Thursday.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, mine's Thursday from four to seven.
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  SPEAKER_05: Just three hours, man.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, every day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's like in the evening.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I don't go to the bar afterwards.
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  SPEAKER_03: But he's but he's a little ambitious, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like you already had Yale Law School, the number one law school in the first time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, why you wanted Unam, the number one law school.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look at this ambition.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, you have to keep getting more and more.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, of course.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's exciting to hear from you guys.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, one thing I will say, um, so I was first at Latham, and then I was a federal prosecutor, and now I do what I do.
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  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, the beautiful thing about law is you know, you say you like this now, but who knows in two years, three years, five years, you know, you could be doing something like totally different.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh, but the the beautiful thing is just to enjoy the journey, you know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like you're gonna be working with great lawyers there, like one of the best law firms in the country, doing super interesting stuff that's consistent with your uh background and training.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um so that's super, super important.
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  SPEAKER_05: So talk to us a little.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, I'm curious in Ohio, like so.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're in San Diego, so we have three law schools there.
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  SPEAKER_05: And if you have like a they call it, they all call it out there La Raza.
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  SPEAKER_05: If you have a La Raza event from one of our law schools, it's like a football stadium full of people.
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  SPEAKER_05: What is it like at the Ohio State?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Ohio State is a great um community, it's a great university.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, see he does consumer rights stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: He inspires some tension.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: So talk to him afterwards.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so yeah, the Ohio State is great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, the Midwestern culture I think parallels a little bit with Hispanic culture in terms of like family values and things like that, which are really great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, we have a LALSA student chapter there, so Latino Law Students Association.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I would say that chapter is growing.
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  SPEAKER_02: One of the things I when I get an opportunity to speak to practicing attorneys is trying to convince them to come back because there's not a lot of Latino students, so getting that pipeline to return and remind us like there are people that came before us is really exciting.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um Ohio State obviously is known for football.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think we're still number one in the country right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we'll see what happens tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_05: We'll keep it back up and yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's really interesting.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, we'll see where Arch is at.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's he's been up and down.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um but that those that vibe kind of transitions into the law school as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, there's exciting things coming, and it's a really fun environment to be in.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's a small enough city where the legal community is so small that like everyone knows everyone, different general councils kind of are familial ties with other generals.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's like really cool that once you get to know someone in Columbus, you almost start to know the whole network.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so anyone who thinks it's only corn in Ohio needs to come visit.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I never thought that and get to know Columbus a little bit more because it's a great city.
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  SPEAKER_05: Amazing.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like, uh, isn't Jose like originally out of Cleveland?
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  SPEAKER_05: Is that where they're from?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Jose was born out of Cleveland um and has now gone international.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have a huge presence in DC as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I believe the managing partner sits in DC now, which um has been a transition, but it's been fun to see the firm retain its kind of Ohio route.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: You get to uh like I I personally, you know, would rather be in Columbus and Cleveland, so I'm glad that you get to stay there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I over the summer I summered there both summers and I've been up to the Cleveland office multiple times.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's very cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: Cool because you get access to the attorneys everywhere, but can kind of retain the small market feel of Columbus, which is fun.
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  SPEAKER_05: All right, what's it looking like uh at George Washington?
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  SPEAKER_05: What is what is that Hispanic, Latino, whatever you call yourselves over there?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, no, no, we call it like the Law Sau, so we also have the Lalsa Latino Law Association.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's really nice, it's also really small.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's also something that I struggled with coming coming to DC and like GW, it was very small, but I think we're really trying to build the community up and make sure that like everyone has more events more often and we can connect more often, and we can connect to Latino lawyers too.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're pushing a lot of HNBA, HBA, DC events as well to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this is helping.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is helping, y'all.
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  SPEAKER_01: Lalsa DW, you better be here next year, like for real.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, it's great.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: We have um an event.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm part of another group called Shades of Mass.
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  SPEAKER_05: And so we're uh basically the premise is that uh lawyers of color, black and brown, should be more involved with mass torts, you know, the largest litigations in the country.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so we're having our annual conference next month here.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, since you're here, yeah, I'll reach out to you and maybe try to get, you know, you and some of your group over.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_05: So it's like being bank prompt, like a lot of a lot of heavy hitters.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: That'd be awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: I definitely more exposure to that too.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, I we have a lot of people that definitely speak Spanish, and I feel like in that field, it's just incredibly important to be able to speak Spanish, especially as our community is growing in the US and just being able to reach more clients.
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  SPEAKER_01: For sure as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: We do we do some of our masters, um, like uh a recent um litigation we're getting involved in affects almost exclusively uh Latin American, Mexican, immigrant male workers.
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  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_05: And so, yeah, they all speak Spanish.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: We need more of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's that's really important.
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  SPEAKER_03: Definitely Spanish is definitely important, and and funny, like you're you you like towards.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the cool thing about like San Diego is like everyone speaks Spanish, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but now what they're doing is they have so the University of San Diego, like John went a college there, the law school is teaching uh basically classes in Spanish for law for like that kind of.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm supposed to be teaching torts in Spanish.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow, which is gonna be an interesting part because now I gotta learn the legal lingo in Spanish.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, of course.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it'll be uninteresting.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, that's really interesting because I grew up speaking Spanish and I still speak it today, but when you have to translate it into the professional language, yeah, very different, it's like an additional language, totally different, yeah, very different.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's super useful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like for example, we do a lot of depositions, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and you have interpreters, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes, you know, interpreters don't get it right, especially on crucial things.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we gotta, I mean, you gotta be able to interrupt the interpreter very respectfully.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're just gonna say, like, you know, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Madam Interpreter, of course.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's that's actually what my clients said, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the only way that you can do that is to just expand it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yes, of course.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's definitely a skill.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's an obligation, not a skill.
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  SPEAKER_05: We say obligation for us, you know.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_05: For you, um, obviously, as you when I first started Latham, they told me uh you could be a grinder, a finder, or a minder.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_05: You've heard that one?
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so you want to be a finder, you want to develop business, like that's how you make equity partner.
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  SPEAKER_05: So, like, hopefully, you can use your language skills and cultural skills.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm sure there's big corporate clients all over the world, including Latin America and Spain, that need cybersecurity expertise.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, we've got a great office in Mexico City.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, there you go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hoping to make it down there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Great weather.
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  SPEAKER_05: Columbus, Mexico City.
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  SPEAKER_02: It might be a tough sub, but we'll see.
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  SPEAKER_03: But you both gotta do the Mexico committee.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll introduce two to the people.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've never been to Mexico City.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm from San Dio.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was born in San Dío and then moved to the States.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I haven't been to Mexico City and I want to take my parents now that they're retired.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, super cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: Nice, nice.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: He's got all the good spots.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I go to I go down there.
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  SPEAKER_05: I go down there a lot, maybe once a month.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_05: I also just went to uh I brought my family to San Miguel de Allende.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_05: Your parents would love it there.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_05: It's so beautiful, man.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's amazing.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_05: This guy, he he's on, he likes Guadalajara in Puerto Vallarta.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like my family, like my wife and my baby, they're in Puerto Vallarta right now.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: They were in Guadalajara yesterday, uh, and I'm in Washington.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: But maybe I'll join them, you know, like Washington, do you feel the way to Puerto Vallarta?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_03: Why not?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_05: Change the flight, change the flight.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, of course.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_05: All right, guys.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_05: So um, you know, why are you guys involved in ACMBA?
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_05: I think you've spoken to it a little bit, and why should other law students get involved?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you want to go first?
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think when you're a law student, especially like when you're first generation as well, I think a lot of Hispanic uh law students are.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to kind of make those connections or step out of your comfort zone.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: And everyone tells you that it's really all about who you know and like networking and everything when it comes to the legal profession.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: And you don't really realize that until you're in it.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so I feel like I realized that a little bit like later into the semester, into my first year, and this has given me an amazing opportunity to connect with people, and it's amazing how open everyone actually is.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: You don't think about it before you come here, but everyone is so open to and willing to help like law students and just like talk to you and give you insights and tips and what they do.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that was one of the most amazing things that I got from yesterday and today, for sure.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: We were there, we were there, so like we realized the need of like someone like like pushing you.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's very much about wanting to give it back now, like for sure.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_03: Pushing you into the uh Latino podcast, yes, of course.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: One one thing we were talking about at the registration desk was you know, Latinos have a lot of pride, which is beautiful, but sometimes that prevents us from asking for asking for help, yeah.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: And so I watched my first two years, all of my friends ask for help sooner and get certain opportunities that I didn't get because I was too prideful to ask.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I think this community reminded me like we are natural-born networkers because of how our culture is, and there's nothing wrong with using that to help your community and to help build your career so that you can come back and help your community even more.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I, you know, I'm a third year, so it's a little late for me to use that lesson in law school, but I'm excited to use it in my career, and I'm hopeful to go back to Ohio State until you know the first year's coming in, like go your second year, go your third year.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: Because I also like feel very in a weird way, like very loved here by just by people of the same culture.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's not always something you feel when you're grinding in law school.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so it's a good kind of break from the non-Latino environment to be in a Hispanic one and really feel like you're thriving.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: Helps you step back a little bit.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think that's great.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that's great advice, you know, because culturally there is a hesitation to ask for help, right?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and and like the people that do it have success.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_05: And you see here, like everybody here has all the guests on our podcast have had connections or had someone help them, or yeah, and and it comes through this organization and ones like it.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I and I think you know, at this conference, what I've noticed, all of our guests, all the people that we're meeting, I think it has to do with the fact that we're like, you know, we're very warm, yeah, right?
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: So people are very welcome.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: We go to a lot of conferences.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think like this one's the most welcome.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: So you know, we're super happy.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: This is our first year here, yeah.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, first year bringing the Latino podcast here.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and we for sure are gonna go to Puerto Rico, yeah.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: You guys will do too.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: We will be in Puerto Rico, yeah, yeah.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone wants to go, you know, fingers crossed a phone and all that.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: We're there for the legal for the legal just the legal stuff.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: My grandpa always says no hombre sin hombre and nojer.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it'll be the perfect.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_05: All right, guys.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, as we wrap up, we have two more questions for you.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_05: One, um, what is a struggle that you've had or something you've had to fight through to get where you are today?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: Great question.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think for me it's like the comparison thing of everything, like seeing everyone kind of understanding that you have your own path and what you like, and kind of because sometimes you don't you're not sure what area of law you're interested in at first and everything, and just seeing everyone already have their own path or like connecting with people that they want to work with in the future, and you don't even know like what you want to do.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think just not comparing yourself and just continuing to trust your own process has to be, I think, the hardest thing, and just keep it putting your head down and also like asking for help.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think with that is celebrating what you've already accomplished.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and using celebration to fuel the next step.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: I think is something I learned a lot to use adversity to fuel me.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: But now that I'm in a position where I've accomplished things that I think I can be proud of, letting myself be proud and then using that as motivation has been a switch I've had to figure out.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then also identifying what's for me and what's not for me.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, the first story is often open all the doors so you can take every opportunity, but sometimes it's just not for you, and being okay with that, even if it's a really good opportunity, choosing a different path.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm excited to kind of share that with other people too.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_03: Celebrating your accomplishment.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_05: I like it.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_05: Let's go get some tequila.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: All right, so no, guys, uh, we have one more thing for you.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_05: If you can write in the sky words for everyone to read forever, what words, what message would you leave for all of us?
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh, time is gonna pass no matter what, so we might as well do something good with it and start now.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_05: I love it.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, very good.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna say si se puede.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I can say.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, of course, uh Dolores Huerta, who in fact coined that phrase it was not César Toro.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_05: All right, so uh thank you guys.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_05: If if people want to find you, look you up, how do they find you?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm on LinkedIn, Ana Sofia Wacker.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so you can find me there and then we can connect.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_05: Moyang.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Same LinkedIn, Elian del Campo.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, okay, very good.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: Very professional.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_05: I would say Instagram, but very professional.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we're we're direct to consumers, so we're like Instagram, TikTok.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_05: But I've seen like a lot of people like, oh, let's do this in LinkedIn.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, no, LinkedIn is good.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_05: LinkedIn is good.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_05: All right, guys, so thank you so much.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_05: Uh thank you.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_05: If uh this concludes our final episode from here in DC, our special HMBA series of the Latino podcast.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_05: If you like uh what you heard, please like us, share us, comment, get the word out, and maybe someday you can even be on the show like these incredible young lawyers here.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so that signs off this episode of the Latino podcast.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_05: Gracias a todos.