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How The Modern NFL Takes us Back to the 1920s · Sports History Network

• 1:43
  Running backs setting records, getting on the all time list, quarterbacks throwing for 50 some yards in a game.
• 1:49
  You'd think we'd be talking about games in the 1920s NFL, but we're not.
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  We're talking 2026 of the week nine of the season.
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  But we're referencing some things that happened back in the 20s.
• 2:00
  Ed Cleese joins us as we go back in time to talk about week nine.
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  Week nine is just completing the NFL season for 2026 and we are here to give you some great history to that happened this past weekend.
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  Ed Cleese joins us once again.
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  Ed, welcome back to the Pig Pen.
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  Hey Darren, what's going on?
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  Ed, there's a lot going on in the NFL.
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  Is the picture is starting to clear up and we're starting to see the, the light at the end of the tunnel, I think.
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  Or maybe not.
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  Or it could be an oncoming train for a lot of these teams.
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  That's most definitely right.
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  So, so where do we want to start our, our little history journey here of week nine?
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  Let's start with the first game of week nine and it was an ugly one that I'm sure as an AFC north rival fan you'd be happy to recount.
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  The Ravens had a miserable night at home against the Jags on Thursday.
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  It was so that poor kid, Funano, I think is how you say his last name, he was not ready for prime time.
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  I'm not sure he was ready for Saturday or Friday night even.
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  It was not good.
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  As a matter of fact, Darren, that is the fewest net passing yards in Ravens history, only 57.
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  And the, the ironically it beat or came in.
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  However you want to look at it, the second worst net passing game they've ever had was also against the Jags in 2017.
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  So yeah, it was a rough night and pretty much their worst passing night that they've ever had.
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  So not good.
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  Well, he was better, 57 yards better than Baker Mayfield was the week prior.
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  So there's something he could hang his hat.
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  On.
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  Yeah, I guess.
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  Or you could say, yeah, but he was trying all four quarters and that's what he produced.
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  So the poor kid just was not, should not have been out there.
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  Yeah.
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  And I, I'm not sure that after me he probably wanted to be out there when the game started.
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  But maybe by game's end he's wishing you could go hide somewhere because it was a lot to like if you're a Jags fan, because they looked awfully good and they've gotten even better Here in the past week.
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  They have.
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  Yes, they have.
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  They certainly have.
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  Another team that's starting to look a lot better is the Cincinnati Bengals.
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  And that the opposite of the Ravens passing game would be the Bengals passing game.
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  And that was only their third trip overseas for Cincinnati and, and kind of funny here they have three true outcomes.
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  So they've only played three times overseas.
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  They have one win, one loss and one tie.
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  It's almost like kissing your sister overseas.
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  Right,.
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  There you go.
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  Well, yes, in some places, depending on where.
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  So.
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  Yeah,.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean some, some really interesting history was made with the Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow.
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  They end up having their 19th 40 yard touchdown pass of the.
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  The tandem, you know, together that puts them third all time in the NFL history.
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  They are of course behind Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison who have had 2140 yard or more touchdown pass and Steve Young and Jerry Rice with 20.
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  So they're right there on the doorstep.
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  I'm hoping they don't make it this coming week because they're playing my team.
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  Yeah, they, they look, they look scintillating.
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  Right, right now.
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  There that is.
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  And T.
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  Higgins is just about the best number two receivers you're ever gonna find.
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  Yeah, I think you could just call him 1A, I think.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  Absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  We don't have any one A's in New York with the jets right now.
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  They have not won and they got smoked in Kansas City after hanging for a while.
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  They have not won in Kansas City since 1998.
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  That's quite a ways back now.
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  So far back that Vinny Testaverde and Elvis Gerbach were the quarterbacks in the last time the jets won in Kansas City.
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  And this is kind of funny too.
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  You want to tell you how football has changed a little bit in that game in 1998.
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  Darren Curtis Martin had 30 attempts for 42 yards and they won.
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  So I guess that was.
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  That would have been the Bill Parcell's team in 98.
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  I guess they just were going to pound the rock no matter what.
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  Yeah, I think he had his mind set on something.
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  Did the Big Tuna.
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  He would just stick with it no matter what.
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  You know, I'll throw out all regard here to get the game in.
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  But yeah, that was kind of a, an interesting and ugly game and kind of interesting that the, the jets, you know, got pounded.
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  You don't really know where the jets are and yet they didn't trade anybody away before the trade deadline.
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  Well, they've.
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  Done.
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  A lot leading up to this at this point.
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  You know, they've got, I think they have three firsts already for next year.
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  So I guess maybe they figured, okay, we're, we're set there and now maybe we'll just do everything we can to make sure that our pick is as high as possible.
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  Yeah, maybe.
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  Maybe that's the strategy.
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  Maybe it's not a bad strategy.
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  Yep.
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  Sticking in New York.
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  I'm sure most people have seen this now.
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  You know, last week we talked about how the colts have lost 12 in a row in Jacksonville.
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  Well, the giants had lost 13 in a row in Philly, which they snapped on Sunday against that putrid Eagles offense.
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  So going all the way back to 2013 was the last time the Giants won in Philadelphia in that game, somewhat ironically, they beat the Giants.
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  They didn't score any touchdowns in that game though.
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  They won that game 15 to 7 on the strength of five field goals.
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  But it has been 13 years since the Giants have been able to celebrate a win against their rivals in Philly.
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  Yeah, and you know, speaking about guys that kick the ball there, how about Brandon man had a 86 yard punt in there.
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  And I mean that is quite historic because there was a couple games that were a little bit better than him in NFL history and one was one.
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  I had to go back and look at where Randall Cunningham for the Eagles had a 91 yard punt.
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  And I, I'm the couldn't remember that.
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  I had Also against the.
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  Giants.
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  Right.
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  Wasn't it.
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  Also against the Giants?
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  It was.
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  It was really quite remarkable.
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  First of all, I can't remember why Randall Cunningham was putting the ball, but he was.
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  I mean they were on the one yard line and he's standing at the end line kicking this ball.
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  The quarterback, the starting quarterback at that time.
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  And.
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  Pretty sure that Randall was a punter in college.
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  Is that why he was doing okay?
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  And he.
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  Had a few.
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  Punts in his career.
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  He, I, I know he had a punt against the Redskins as well.
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  Okay.
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  And you know he had the 91 yarder and another one that that man was behind was Rodney Williams had a 90 yarder for the, for the Giants in 2001.
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  So a lot of punts against the Giants are going a long way.
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  Gotcha.
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  Gotcha.
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  Speaking of punts, the Raiders might want to punt their $147 million that they spent on defense.
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  They this off season.
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  That is not.
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  That does not appear to be money well spent because the Raiders are Now tied in NFL record of having six straight games giving up 30 or more points.
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  Kind of funny the they tied the 2020 Lions and the 2020 Jacksonville Jaguars, both of whom had given up six, six games in a row of 30 or more points.
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  The Raiders have matched that and I guess they're going for the record in their next game.
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  Yeah, and, and in their next game it sounds like we will be entering in the Mendoza era of big trade earlier this week where they traded Kirk Cousins back to the Vikings, which was kind of fascinating.
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  So Fernando, I hope you're not relying on your defense.
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  Yeah, I hope not too.
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  Yes.
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  Now one guy that we can rely on that it wasn't looking so good last year is the remarkable turnaround by C.J.
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  Stroud.
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  You know, obviously got off to a really nice start in his career and then kind of went backwards a little bit for a couple years, sort of culminating at the end of last year into the playoffs where he
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  was just pretty dreadful.
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  That, that win against the Steelers.
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  He was terrible in that game and then he was even worse the next week against New England and now he is.
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  You know, they change coordinators, they changed offenses, his receivers are healthy and he looks awesome to the tune of this.
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  You know, there's a lot of new age stats, Darren, that I'm not necessarily that fond of, but I kind of like this one.
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  It's, it's basically the big time throw to turnover worthy ratio.
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  So it's a way to gauge is this quarterback taking a lot of chances and pushing the ball and when he does, is he being too risky?
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  Just as an example, Jordan Love is having a great, great year.
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  He has 24 big time throws, but he has 15 turnover worthy throws.
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  So he's kind of chucking it a little bit.
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  Whereas CJ Stroud has 22 big time throws to only 4 turnover worthy attempts.
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  So not only is he going deep and going deep often, he is doing it with high efficiency.
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  Yeah, I think he's, he's been playing a very good game.
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  You know, I think it's like he woke up from his bad dream and maybe this is who the real C.J.
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  Stroud is.
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  Who knows.
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  But we've had a lot of Dr.
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  Jekyll and Mr.
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  Hyde quarterbacks this year.
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  And it kind of goes to show to not give up on these guys.
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  There's so many examples of it at this point that, you know, it is a tough job, it's a tough gig.
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  And you know, guys can have certainly have bad games, they can have bad seasons, they can have bad multiple seasons and still not, you know, give up on them.
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  So it's a, it's A roller coaster.
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  There's.
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  There's not a lot of Mahomes is or Brady's out there who just hit the ground running and then just never go backwards ever.
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  Yeah, that's for sure.
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  But we did have some digression in some of our quarterbacks that we're kind of high on.
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  So maybe we'll talk about some of those.
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  Sure.
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  I have to lament something.
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  The Rams as we know, I would say that they have five players on their team that are going to be in Canton.
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  If you.
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  I think Devonte Adams, Stafford, Aaron, Donald, Miles Garrett and then I think Nakua clearly is a Hall of Fame player.
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  Now.
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  Will he have the volume?
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  We don't know.
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  But if we kind of eliminate Adams because he's hurt.
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  The.
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  The only now that Nukua is going on the injured list.
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  So the only game this probably entire year, most likely that Stafford, Nakua, Garrett and Donald will play in was against the Washington Commanders.
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  Most likely as it appears.
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  You know, Nakua got hurt on the last play of the game and while I never want anyone to get hurt, it would have been nice if he would have just done it on the first play of the game
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  because he was phenomenal.
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  Their hall of Famers won them that game.
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  I thought Washington was kind of right with him otherwise, but those guys put him over the top and it would have been nice just to not have to deal with one of them.
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  Yeah, you know, Garrett definitely had a great game.
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  You know, I think he made up for all the sacks he missed because of the games he missed earlier this season with three and one game.
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  But you know, speaking of Puka, you know, the game that he had, it made history, you know, because Puka had his 150 yard game.
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  It was his ninth of his career, which is unbelievable to me.
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  And it puts him in with names of.
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  He just passed Elroy Crazy Legs Hirsch in rams history for 150 yard games.
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  He is still third on the Rams all time list.
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  He's still trailing Isaac Bruce and Tori Holt.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, he's.
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  He's special.
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  And the other thing that's amazing to me about him is he is highly physical.
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  He's almost like a tight end out there after the catch.
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  He is.
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  Now it might shorten his career because he does get banged up a lot.
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  He limps off the field a lot.
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  He plays.
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  So he's physical with the ball.
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  The touchdown he had against us on Sunday was super frustrating because I would call that a plus coverage and you know, it's just sort of like, what are you going to do then?
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  That's what happens when you got Canton bound guys.
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  They make plays that you cannot stop.
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  Yeah, that's for sure.
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  That's a.
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  That's a tough pill to swallow when you're facing, like you say, probably five potential hall of Famers, all playing peak performance.
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  I know you want something that is pretty easy to stop.
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  That would be the Vikings offense, because this is.
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  Wait.
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  A second.
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  They have an offense.
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  Oh, my gosh.
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  That was.
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  I'm watching that and I'm watching Wentz, and I'm.
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  I'm embarrassed watching it because that is not just like a quarterback having a bad game.
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  That is absolute ineptitude.
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  You should not be in the NFL.
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  That is.
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  It was an embarrassing display of quarterbacking on.
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  On Monday night, and there's numbers to back that up.
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  First of all, the Vikings became the first team since 1925.
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  That would be the Detroit Panthers.
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  And the Frankfurt Yellow Jackets were the last teams to go eight games into the season, have six or more wins, but have three or more games where they don't even score a touchdown.
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  So the Vikings are quite literally setting football back over 100 years offensively, and Wentz is now.
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  That's the 10th worst passer rating we've ever seen since 2000.
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  And it is.
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  And I can't believe there was worse.
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  Number one on the list was a surprise.
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  It was a Jeff Garcia game where he has a zero rating and he actually had a pretty nice career.
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  But then you had other names on there like Tim Hasselback, Brandon Whedon, Mark Sanchez, you know, so kind of like maybe some usual names you'd expect.
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  And I was surprised that Wentz even wasn't even higher on that list because that was dreadful.
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  And maybe it actually will be a blessing in disguise because maybe that is what they decided was the turning point where they just absolutely had to go get Kirk.
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  But you had me at Detroit Panthers and Frankfurt Yellow.
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  I'm sure I.
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  Did.
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  You know, that was two great teams from that middle 20s decade, too.
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  1920S.
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  But yeah, I think you're right.
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  Wentz just.
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  I don't know what the heck he was thinking.
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  I know they had the one shot where like near the end of the first half where him and Justin Jefferson were talking on the sideline and the commentators were trying to laugh it off, saying, oh, yeah, I think
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  he's.
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  Jefferson's still with them.
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  I think Jefferson's like saying, hey, when I'm wide open, don't short hop the ball like five yards in front of me.
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  You know, things like that.
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  You know,.
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  They.
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  It was crazy for that poor of a rating.
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  It wasn't even like they were just off the fingertips or he was throwing a little high.
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  Like when quarterbacks get excited.
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  He was just all over the place and not where the ball should be.
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  It was.
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  It was terrible.
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  It was.
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  It was really.
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  It was embarrassing.
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  Yeah.
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  I almost think, you know, it's starting to cloud my mind a little bit, and sometimes I'm getting Wentz and Sam Darnold, like, really confused because I think it.
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  They might almost be the same guy because it's.
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  You know, I know Darnold's got a Super bowl under his head, his hat now, but there's.
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  Sometimes they look so spectacular like Wentz did in his.
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  His early career, and then he looks like he did, you know, this past weekend.
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  I don't.
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  I really don't think so, Darren, because now we are literally talking nine years since Wentz was good.
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  It's, you know, the 2017, Wentz was an MVP level player, and then maybe he had a couple more years in there where he was okay.
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  But he has not been the same since that injury.
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  You know, I know there's been some talk about him and maybe not being as locked in as.
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  As he should be.
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  You know, I don't know if that's true or not.
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  I have no idea.
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  But when he played for my team, you know, four years ago, it was terrible.
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  It was awful.
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  Like he was not capable.
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  And I'm not really sure why he keeps.
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  Keeps getting jobs because it has been a very long time since he even had a really good game.
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  Yeah.
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  That's sad.
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  Well, hopefully he can bounce back from this and make something better in his career here.
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  To better memories.
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  Gonna get that chance.
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  I think that was.
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  That might be the last time we see Carson Wentz on an NFL field.
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  That's.
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  That's true.
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  Because after.
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  Right after the Vikings traded and got Cousins, like we said.
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  I'm sure he's.
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  A good.
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  I'm sure.
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  Hey, look, I'm sure he's a good guy.
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  He's made a ton of money.
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  He's been in the league, you know, for over a decade.
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  I'm sure he's.
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  He's just fine, but it's probably time to not start him at quarterback anymore.
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  Yeah, I.
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  I think you think you're right here.
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  And I have a, you know, a couple things to bring up here.
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  First of all, I want to go that.
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  That Browns and Saints game, you know, that's a game that it was on here locally, same time as.
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  I forget what the other game was on, but I.
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  I ended up was getting.
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  It looked like Cleveland had that game under control.
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  You know, first of all, it was kind of.
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  I don't know if I like the.
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  The Saints black helmets or not, but they're.
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  You know, first I was kind of appalled by them, and then I guess they kind of grew on me.
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  It was sort of like Halloween ish, I guess, but.
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  But there was some history that was made in that game.
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  It's just the fourth game in NFL history, regular season and playoffs, where the teams combined for 12 or fewer points in the first half.
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  Our first three quarters.
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  I'm sorry.
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  Okay.
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  And then exploded for 33 or more points in the fourth quarter.
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  The other.
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  The other two games.
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  That's.
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  A bit of a.
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  The Saints have been doing that a lot.
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  Well, this is how historic this is.
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  Okay.
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  The.
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  They're in fourth place.
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  That game was in 1982.
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  The Browns and the Eagles 35 late points.
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  1951, it was the Bears and they.
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  New York Yanks.
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  Not even Yankees.
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  The New York yanks 35 late points.
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  But the record.
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  We're going back the mid-1920s again like we did just a few minutes ago.
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  1935, the packers and the Rochester Jeffersons 39 points in the fourth quarter of that.
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  So that's pretty historic on that one.
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  The other one I want to talk about is the Dolphins and the Lions game.
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  You know, that was.
• 20:45
  You know, Miami hung in there for a little bit.
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  We talked about that.
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  Maybe.
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  We thought maybe they would.
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  But it was the most touchdowns and four NFL seasons for Jamar Gibbs.
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  Just to put in perspective what he's done, he just tied ladanian Tomlinson for 60 touchdowns in your first four years.
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  He is one behind Terrell Davis, who had 61.
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  And he still has what, seven games, eight games left the.
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  This season.
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  So he will probably be our new record holder here unless something unforeseen happens.
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  But, yeah, that's quite a season start for Jamar Gibbs.
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  Special player.
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  Yeah, most definitely.
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  And that.
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  That's what I have for our history here.
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  And I think it's pretty exciting week.
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  And I.
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  I think that sort of leads us into one of your feature topics here that you've been doing all year,.
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  Scoragami time.
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  All right, Darren, so let's start it with like we always do.
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  What is your guess?
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  And have better odds this week because we had a tie for the most rare score.
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  So you have two up.
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  You have one of two games you could choose and you'll be right either way.
• 21:58
  Well, that's good, because I have a tie in my head where I think.
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  Okay, so.
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  All right,.
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  I'm thinking you had that 4422 game.
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  The Texans and the Chargers.
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  That's.
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  That's one of my ones.
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  I like.
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  And I like the Giants and the Eagles.
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  Game 19 to 11,.
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  Pick one.
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  Well, I can't have them both.
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  That's not why.
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  You don't.
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  Gotta pick one.
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  All right, I'm gonna take the 19 to 11 game.
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  I did that.
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  Because now you're wrong.
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  You didn't get either.
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  Oh, yes.
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  You didn't get either.
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  Really?
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  Those aren't the rarest.
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  Wow.
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  So the rarest is a tie.
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  It's happened.
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  The 44 to 22 has happened five times.
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  Okay,.
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  So no kidding.
• 22:37
  Only now what's interesting is it had happened.
• 22:42
  Had happened one time prior to October of last year, and it's happened four times in a calendar year now.
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  44 to 22 last year.
• 22:54
  Washington lost two different games last year, 44 to 22.
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  And on one of those days, there was another NFL game that also ended 44 to 22.
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  I don't.
• 23:04
  I don't think you're allowed to say that with a smile on your face with a big Washington helmet in front.
• 23:08
  I.
• 23:08
  Was actually at one of those games in Dallas last year.
• 23:11
  Oh, now,.
• 23:12
  Okay.
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  History.
• 23:13
  That makes a lot of sense now.
• 23:15
  Yeah.
• 23:15
  So.
• 23:15
  So we've seen four 44 to 22 games in the last calendar year, but only five in NFL history.
• 23:23
  And 35 to 12 was also.
• 23:26
  That was the jets losing to the Chiefs this week.
• 23:30
  That has also only happened five times.
• 23:32
  Now the game that you had mentioned.
• 23:35
  Now the.
• 23:35
  You want to know the first time 35 to 12 has ever happened?
• 23:39
  Sure.
• 23:39
  Is it gonna take us to the 1920s?
• 23:41
  It is.
• 23:42
  We're going back to the 20s between the rock Island Independence and the Kansas City Cowboys.
• 23:49
  So I thought.
• 23:50
  So I thought you would.
• 23:51
  Now, you know, I.
• 23:52
  You.
• 23:53
  I don't know if you have a.
• 23:54
  Quite a recollection of the Rock Island Independence.
• 23:57
  I don't know if you were at any of those games or not, but that was the first time we ever saw that.
• 24:03
  And your 19 to 11 game, Darren, that has happened seven times previous.
• 24:08
  So you were very, very close.
• 24:12
  The overall score for this week was pretty low.
• 24:16
  It's our second lowest we've had to last week.
• 24:20
  It's 49.8.
• 24:23
  So the second most rare week we've had.
• 24:25
  Now, you know what screwed it all up though Darren was the Bears Bucs game finished 27 to 24.
• 24:33
  That has happened 247 times now in the NFL.
• 24:38
  Okay, if you were watching that game though, the bucks went for two at one point, right?
• 24:45
  So it was 24 to 22 and the Bucks went for two.
• 24:49
  If they don't get that, then the final score of the game probably would have been 24 to 22, maybe 27 to 22, something like that.
• 24:58
  And that would have pushed it into our rarest week.
• 25:02
  So The Baker Mayfield 2 point conversion cost Week 9, the rarest Scoragami index score yet and it is now in second place.
• 25:14
  Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe we should have even talked about that game because I, I forgot about that was one where I was, I was ready to write them off.
• 25:23
  I mean, they look, you know, dead to the world the way that they were playing.
• 25:28
  And that comeback is really something.
• 25:31
  You know, the way Caleb started off, I thought, wow, he is just on fire.
• 25:36
  And boy, Tampa Bay really showed up there to come back.
• 25:40
  It wasn't quite history, but winning a game where you have five turnovers is fairly rare.
• 25:46
  Yeah, definitely is.
• 25:47
  Definitely is.
• 25:49
  All right, well, that is another week of history, folks.
• 25:53
  You can catch Ed and I tomorrow on the podcast at your favorite podcast provider as we go into our prediction show and talk a little bit more about the NFL coming up and where we think they are in
• 26:04
  a season.
• 26:05
  Ed, we really enjoyed talking history with you tonight and we will talk to you again tomorrow.
• 26:10
  Thanks, Darren.
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