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Random Heathen Ramblings: S2, EP 21 - Father Of The Wolves! · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  We're going to bring in Josh, Josh groom.
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  He is the founder and owner of the father of the Wolves Outdoor
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  speak. And he is Is he is, he even?
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  He is Pagan, and he'd, and he has this really awesome business
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  that he runs reconnecting or helping people to reconnect with
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  the outdoors and sort of outdoor adventure, lifestyle, sort of
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  thing. So, I don't want to speak too
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  much without him being here to speak on it because I'm really
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  Adventures is. It's all going to be all his
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  So check the show notes. Check the description, etc, etc.
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  So on and so forth. But let's go ahead and welcome
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  Josh. Garage room to the podcast.
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  Here we go. Yeah, folks.
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  All right, so like I said, here we are.
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  I've got Josh room with me. Joined all the way out there and
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  somewhere in the mountains, North Carolina.
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  I'm going to say. I'm gonna venture to say is that
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  is that accurate? It's Foothills.
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  But Foothills. Yeah, I'm the Foothills but I'm
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  glad you lived up that way for a little while.
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  I'm glad you say Foothills because I'm from, I'm from up.
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  Well, I'm not even from upstate New York.
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  Work. But I'm from Long Island and I
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  moved to like the lower foothills of the Catskill
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  Mountain Range. Okay, so when everybody's like,
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  oh, you live in the mountains, I'm like nah, man.
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  They're the Foothills you want to go to the mountains.
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  You got to go out to like the Rockies are, you gotta go like,
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  those are mountains, man. Appalachian mountain range, like
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  those are mountains. Now, like over here, like this
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  is, this is like, you know, this is like the calluses on Rip Van,
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  Winkle's toes the same nothing, you know?
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  So, I actually live in a town here in North Carolina called
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  Kings Mountain. All right, so there's there is
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  that mountain, another one called Crowder's now.
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  And it's to me because I grew up in this area.
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  So it's more like Bluffs, man, you know, it's just like, just
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  like a little mountain, like a little heel that sits up high
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  enough that they could call it a mountain and yeah, you know, and
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  their state parks and there's hiking and there's some camping
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  and, you know, so many people Because I'm just outside the
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  Charlotte here. Okay.
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  But I can get to, you know, that relation and about an hour and a
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  half which is what I love because I was living up there
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  for a while. So I didn't want to get too far
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  away from it. Yeah.
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  But so many people like run to the Crowder's Mountain or the
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  Kings back? Like oh I like this mounted a
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  don't like that. Do something about this and you
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  can you are doing something. About it which is which is which
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  is like the large larger scale reason why why are you even here
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  today? So, you know, just for
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  everybody's edification for everybody's understanding.
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  I've known Josh Here. And Now for we were just talking
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  about this before you came on the biggest part of three, maybe
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  four between three and four years and this the the way that
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  we met, you know how Kind of became friends as it were was it
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  was a bit of an interesting tale, but it had to do with a
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  musical project. The band I know you still are
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  pretty active with like musical stuff like you've got projects
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  and stuff. But so for everyone's
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  edification, if you wouldn't mind just share a little bit
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  about who you are. We're going to get into kind of
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  why are you here in just a minute?
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  But yeah, just tell everybody a little bit, you know, I know
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  you're here because this is a random heathen.
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  His podcast, you tend to gravitate our identify as a
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  heathen yourself. But yeah, introduce yourself to
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  the Fine people out here. So Josh groom I have been raised
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  outdoor pretty much my whole life spend, 90% of my time
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  Outdoors. Even my professional career to
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  that pays the bills involves being outdoors and then, as, as
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  you were saying, you know, we met through music.
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  I'm in multiple musical projects, we met through my
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  black metal project which is changed name since since we last
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  met, you know, right through a whole re Brandon since then,
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  that is known as Teresa Runa now, then I'm also in a death
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  metal project called Mafia which actually one of the members is
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  from Venezuela and he moved here to America.
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  Talk about four years ago and the project was active there.
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  So when him and his family uprooted and came here, he
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  instantly was like I can't let this project go so he wanted to
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  get it, keep it going and he met all the founding members and the
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  bass player which is also interrupts Runa with me.
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  They had a little issue with a singer that they had at the time
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  and called me up and said, hey, can you help us with a show?
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  And I was only going to help them with their CD release show.
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  And then they say, you know, they're like, hey will you join
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  us full time? So I have those two active music
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  projects as well as I am. Working on a solo project.
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  Let's go gamar, which will be Nordic folk in diving into a lot
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  of folk instruments and learning and causing myself headaches.
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  But for the best part because I love it, I've known to take
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  instruments hiking on Sit on top of a mountain, you know, beat
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  myself up playing these things, alerting them so that I can get
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  that project out there. Yeah, that's funny.
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  That you mentioned instruments. Taking hike and I just acquired
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  a bison skin drum. From a very, very talented
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  Craftsmen and I went on a recent hike in my area, you know,
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  nothing, nothing fancy, it's pretty pretty, beginner level
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  just, you know, flat Trails, maybe some, you know, dips and
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  spikes or whatever in the terrain.
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  But all in all it was about a 5-mile hike.
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  But I was like, I got I had the drum with me, I'm just like, you
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  know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna like record anything per
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  se, but I ended up Stop and along on the return.
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  You know, trip with by the water because it was you know it's a
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  flowing river right whatever. And just you know beating on the
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  drum over the water and stuff like that and it's it's therapy
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  man. Like it's it's it's very
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  therapeutic. Come to find out you know me not
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  being a musician but and you know that's that's what I
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  founded it and it's a big inspiration.
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  Behind that my solo project because I do the same thing,
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  it's just you get out there man, you're sitting there.
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  You're I call it in my environment.
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  If I'm in the forest, you know where I'm in the mountains are
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  just backyard. You know?
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  That's that's where I'm most happy man.
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  So and then yes it is a big part of my life.
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  So what I bring the two together, you know, in like I
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  said, some of the instruments like I have a talk that I am
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  currently manage kicking my butt.
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  I'm not even gonna lie about it, but, you know, I just I've
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  always been obsessed with the sounds of it but, you know, I
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  got a little bag and I take them and I just sit there and then
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  sometimes, my job keeps me on the road and which leaving me,
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  I'm like, I don't even want a hotel.
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  I'm just going to go camp and I take instruments.
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  And recently I was sent to Jacksonville Florida and I
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  picked I found a campground man that had like alligator-infested
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  waters on. On one side and then it had the
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  ocean on the other side that was July.
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  So yeah, man, it was like, this is cool.
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  Yeah, not even the swamp, exactly.
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  Please don't feed them anything toxic and like they don't cry
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  like you're just at that point you're just like, connecting
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  with nature. Exactly.
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  You know, there was this one moment and because I don't have
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  a drum say like yeah, I'm actually jealous of your drum
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  and I've seen you post that things like that.
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  Yeah, beautiful. Gotta get one.
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  You gotta get one. You gotta, you know.
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  Yeah. What's gonna happen?
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  And I was just sitting there. Yeah man that that time doesn't
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  time doesn't translate the same when you are out there in nature
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  you know at least not for me like I went on that five-mile
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  hike and I'm like man I've been walking forever and I had a nap
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  or whatever that was that was tracking my you know miles or
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  whatever. They might of course you know my
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  time whatever I'm at the end of it on like I made it back home
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  and I was like wow two and a half hours and five miles later.
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  I was like, I feel like I just, you know, walk half the Earth or
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  whatever it's like you almost you know, I think it's some I
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  don't know how you feel because like this is kind of like it's
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  more of a, it's more than just a hobby for you, right?
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  Like being outdoors like it's it's, it's it's a lifestyle and
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  it's actually something that you're looking to at least in my
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  understanding it's like it a livelihood as it were.
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  You've got a business. We're going to talk about father
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  of the Wolves Outdoors Adventure Outdoor Adventures here in just
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  a second but you your sense of time gets Right, you could even
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  go by so quick or you can be like, I've been out here forever
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  but you've only been out there for, you know, a minute, 30
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  minutes, an hour, whatever, right?
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  You just it's so strange. How time just yes.
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  And that was just kind of the idea for me for the business
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  was, you know, a lot of people get consumed in their fast-paced
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  life. Man, of go to work.
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  Take care of your kids, take care of the house, do what you
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  do? All these normal things.
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  And a lot of times people, you know, they may make time for
• 21:27
  themselves. Just sit down to watch like a
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  football game or something that's not me for me.
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  It's I got to go Outdoors if if I'm stranded indoors for a long
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  period of time and I start going crazy like and that was the
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  thing is I was like, more people should take experience the
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  outdoors and in my time but business officially You know, I
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  made it more of an official thing started in 2020, but it's
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  actually been wound to seems for years for years.
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  I've took people on adventures and taught them things and show
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  them things or people see me. Hey, I see you went did this.
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  I've never done that. Can I go try that some time with
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  you? And that's kind of how the
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  business kind of came about. It was, you know, like, hey,
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  what if I do this more than just over Once in a while because
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  like we're saying, man, there's something about being out there
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  where that time is just zooming by, you know, I spent nine hours
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  on the lake kayaking up in the mountains and it didn't feel
• 22:41
  like nine hours to me, you know, towards the end.
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  I mean, nine hours, you know, roll it, you start feeling the,
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  you know, the police have been here for a little bit.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Learn.
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  But, you know, it was one of those things.
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  Like, I felt like I could go another nine hours, like, you
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  know, even while body was starting to feel tired.
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  But mentally, I was so happy charges are man, and there was
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  even a storm coming in. And like, I even got, like,
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  smashes the rods, man. I felt like I was on a dragon
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  folk fighting for my life. There mermaidman crazy.
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  It was fun, man. You know, so Yeah, that was its
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  nature. Is just beautiful man and
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  there's a lot of people in this world that I feel is missing out
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  on that and I do get a lot of clients that are City driven
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  people who are, they have no clue.
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  They have no clue what to do. They don't know what to wear.
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  What the parade? Where did you go?
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  What happened to trust? Or what directions from Google
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  is the trust and, you know, can I take them?
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  And I show them things that they've never seen their life,
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  you know, I Client two weeks ago, the guy has never been out
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  of the city. Took him on a camping Adventure
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  Show team the Blue Ridge Parkway for the first time in his life
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  show team, huge waterfall that he's like, man, I've only seen
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  this in like commercials pictures.
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  Yeah. And I watched him just light up
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  as he watched this waterfall, man, and it's a magical moment.
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  When I see the clients like that, that are, they're just,
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  they're overwhelmed with excitement because this is
• 24:29
  something they've never seen before.
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  And I never knew it was as amazing or to be as appreciated
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  as it is, or it needs to be. Yeah, flux, that's tremendous.
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  I think you do it. I think you're doing a great
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  thing so it's father of the Wolves Outdoor Adventures.
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  You've got a Facebook page, you've got a according to your
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  Facebook page. Out of Big Cartel website, and
• 24:56
  you've got a, an email, or I guess for booking sessions or
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  booking adventures and stuff. So, is there anything else out
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  here for people to find you or is that it's oh no, no.
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  They're actually, I will be shutting down the Big Cartel.
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  I've actually got actual website being built and it will be
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  fathered world.com. It is because it's not
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  accessible. And yet not yet.
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  Built right now I just got a sample of it about a week ago to
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  kind of show me their layouts and it's definitely going to be
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  one for all they conclude Earth will see all the different
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  packages I have action and that way they can book through there
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  because what up one thing that I'm not changing.
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  So how I booked and how they did it to pass Big Cartel and
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  through the email is after, you know, the depositor to payment
• 25:49
  is received we set up a Zhu Min and I so I go and I go through
• 25:56
  with them. I also have forms that they fill
• 25:58
  out which the website, I'm going to have the forms automatically
• 26:01
  on there so they can fill them out and then ship them in as
• 26:04
  they're doing their payment and it's basically just simple
• 26:07
  questions. Like, have you ever been
• 26:09
  camping? Are you physically fit?
• 26:11
  You have any health issues? Yeah.
• 26:13
  Are you terrified of snakes? Are you allergic to bees?
• 26:18
  Yeah. Can you go to the bathroom in
• 26:19
  the woods without an actual bathroom around?
• 26:22
  Well, you know, it's a bunch of temperature checks kind of deal,
• 26:26
  right? Cuz, you know, I, you know, as a
• 26:29
  business as a business, you're always going to protect
• 26:31
  yourself, but you also got to protect your clients.
• 26:34
  And of course, one thing I want to know is I want to know these
• 26:36
  important things about my clients.
• 26:39
  Before we go on this adventure because I have Adventures pick
• 26:44
  all over that. Some are extreme for the people
• 26:48
  who, what? So I have, like a couple Or like
• 26:52
  working their way up, you know, and they're working the way to
• 26:55
  the bigger harder, you know, task for the people who already
• 26:59
  experienced introduced a like, hey, they want to go out there
• 27:01
  and they wanted like, you know, like we're a snake for a belt
• 27:04
  and wrestle raccoons and stuff. You know, once we do the zoom
• 27:19
  meeting, it's, you know, it's a face-to-face.
• 27:21
  Hey, this This is who I am. I tell them a little bit about
• 27:24
  me, you know, and find out a little bit about them.
• 27:26
  So that way, we're not complete strangers now.
• 27:29
  Yeah, and there's a level of trust, you got to build, I
• 27:32
  assume, right? With with you, when you do stuff
• 27:34
  like this, because, I mean, you're a guide as of where you
• 27:37
  are a physical guide into the outdoors, for potentially
• 27:42
  people, that, like, you mentioned previously that have
• 27:45
  never experienced anything, remotely close to this, they're
• 27:48
  putting their entire Trust. In you right?
• 27:52
  Right. Exactly.
• 27:54
  So you know and I tell him you know, he's like hey that's the
• 27:58
  whole point of these forms and stuff because if it is not
• 28:02
  uncommon for us to run across a rattlesnake and it really run
• 28:06
  across around snake and a little background of me, I used to
• 28:10
  breed reptiles as a hobby. So and venomous goes one of my
• 28:16
  favorite things to have so it's not really meant for you to pick
• 28:19
  up a rattlesnake. So Look at you man.
• 28:23
  You're like the freaking snake Whisperer over here or
• 28:25
  something. I don't know.
• 28:26
  Like love animals made in general, dude.
• 28:30
  So and and I've always tend to go for the animals that people
• 28:35
  are terrified of or yeah. You know, they just buddy of
• 28:40
  mine, a buddy of mine. He's got two scorpions you ever
• 28:44
  doubt. You ever dealt with them.
• 28:46
  I've had a few scorpion. Yes, he's got a Japanese forest
• 28:49
  scorpion which is I think Think they look menacing but they're
• 28:53
  not right to you know like they look like they're going to kill
• 28:58
  you but they're just like big soft.
• 29:00
  He's more or less as far as the arachnid thing goes but now he's
• 29:04
  got another one that's like three times smaller than the
• 29:08
  forest scorpion. He's like that's some picture
• 29:10
  that she'll kill you all right. Wow.
• 29:22
  But yeah. So you know that's one of the
• 29:25
  things I let him know is like hey I can identify the snakes
• 29:29
  and you know, if I'm on a trail especially trail that traveled a
• 29:33
  good bit, you know, if I see a copperhead around snakes man, I
• 29:38
  moved them, take them away from the trail, that way no one gets
• 29:41
  hurt, you know, that way, no one's taking the chance to get
• 29:44
  hurt the snakes. Got not going to get hurt the
• 29:46
  humans, not going to get hurt. You know, so I try to find out
• 29:49
  these things because, you know, I don't want to Take someone out
• 29:52
  and then they see a snake and then all of a sudden they run.
• 29:55
  Yeah, we're hey this is right. Like, you know, this is, you
• 30:00
  know, this is where they live. We're just going to walk in
• 30:02
  through their home more or less, you know.
• 30:04
  And they you might you might run across them.
• 30:06
  And how do you deal with it? Exactly.
• 30:09
  And, you know, so I try to find out those things and, you know,
• 30:12
  a lot of these things to just skip was, can you go to the
• 30:15
  bathroom in the force? That is a big problem.
• 30:18
  For a lot of people that I run into is like What do you mean?
• 30:23
  I'm like yeah there's you know if you want to actually go print
• 30:26
  it happen we're not going to have a bathroom exit know it's
• 30:30
  how to treat man right there or whatever.
• 30:39
  You know there's a lot of things I had to go through all of the
• 30:48
  years in my head and all the people that I have already took
• 30:52
  on these adventures and think about all these things that that
• 30:56
  has came up and happened and how I can get ahead of that with new
• 31:00
  clients, you know, and also, you know, safety is a thing for last
• 31:09
  year. We I have.
• 31:11
  So make start back a little bit. I have one of my best friends,
• 31:14
  man. I met him seven years ago.
• 31:18
  He is a city guy never been Outdoors.
• 31:22
  I invited him on the trip and then I tell you like, if
• 31:25
  anything could ever went wrong on his first trip, it didn't
• 31:29
  happen, like Murphy's Law. Right?
• 31:32
  Right. Oh well my thing is so with my
• 31:34
  business and it was a listen to this.
• 31:36
  So from a business I'm not I don't take any client somewhere
• 31:39
  that I have not been and that I know very well.
• 31:44
  I you know, if it's myself or like one of my friends then
• 31:48
  we're going to go Venture, new places that I am all the time.
• 31:50
  Checking out new places. Aces to add two Cliffs.
• 31:52
  Yeah, and this is one ones where another friend was there, and
• 31:56
  we're like, oh, it'll be fine. We're gonna go to a place that
• 31:59
  we took it to this whole place but never been the trail was
• 32:02
  misleading. It never got us to the
• 32:04
  destination to the water. We stepped past a timber
• 32:10
  rattlesnake. Wow, right?
• 32:15
  Like really want over like this. It was just like laying there,
• 32:19
  chilling. He's like, It was actually a no
• 32:22
  by the way, I'm a rattlesnake chicken so you know it was like
• 32:33
  she didn't even start rattling it.
• 32:35
  So I got her sit down this you woke up like what are you doing
• 32:38
  right to know? We're having a bad track.
• 32:46
  We went through all kinds of stuff man.
• 32:48
  I finally just got to place made Camp then it Arted pouring down
• 32:52
  rain. So who's like anything that
• 32:54
  could have made this guy ever want to go in the woods again?
• 32:58
  Shut up. And he has turned out to be one
• 33:03
  of my friends that I can say, yo, I'm about to take a big
• 33:06
  group. Do you want to tag along?
• 33:07
  And he's like, hey man, I'm there, it takes off work, he's a
• 33:11
  full-time tattoo artist. He'll take a day off and we go
• 33:15
  out really. But yeah.
• 33:18
  So so yes, it gets it. Batman.
• 33:21
  It was like you know take him he helps me.
• 33:25
  We were on a trip. We had two guys.
• 33:28
  Had never been doing this stuff before primitive camping.
• 33:32
  Hike to a waterfall. A lady had felt off the top of
• 33:35
  the mountain and Court. Yeah, her mother standing there,
• 33:40
  like my daughter, my daughter, my daughter, straight down the
• 33:44
  mountain and I just immediately like, even though they want my
• 33:48
  clients, man, I'm Friends of the force is what I call.
• 33:51
  It, you know, I might hate this lady needs help and he looks at
• 33:56
  me because I'm already like breaking the gear off and he's
• 33:59
  like, I'm with you. So I give these other two guys
• 34:01
  like, hey, you staying here. And I know one of them very well
• 34:04
  to good friend of mine as well, gave a walkie-talkie and we
• 34:08
  start running down the trail because it's so steep.
• 34:10
  We had to go back down the trail, then we had to hike
• 34:13
  through a creek, to get to the woman.
• 34:16
  We were scaling log like 10, 15 feet above the ground against
• 34:20
  just It's nasty, thick Force for decides to strike his hammer
• 34:25
  thunder and lightning striking everywhere, man.
• 34:29
  Then, you know, then you know, it's like, alright.
• 34:32
  Yeah, it's alright now. Yeah, it was like meant to be
• 34:34
  man, we make it to the lady. She had broken, ankle and a
• 34:40
  stick had ripped the whole back of her cows.
• 34:44
  Now, was in bad shape, Pastor up as best.
• 34:49
  I could give her water because she kept trying, I pass out.
• 34:52
  We with her like four hours until EMT.
• 34:54
  They got there. So we have to hold up, hold on.
• 34:59
  Just a second. Are you saying that if you
• 35:03
  hadn't been, In the right place at the right time that this
• 35:09
  person could have. Died.
• 35:12
  Yes. Yeah.
• 35:13
  The ENT actually told me that had we had not got there because
• 35:18
  we were so far without said there was, there was another,
• 35:22
  who was a father and a husband, he was panic in wanting to help
• 35:26
  and, you know, he had his family with him and I looked at the guy
• 35:29
  and I was like, hey man if you can help me by going back to
• 35:33
  your car driving to you get signal and call 911, we will be
• 35:37
  with her. Yeah.
• 35:38
  Because I don't want to put this And I was like, oh right, he
• 35:42
  woke. He was in a frantic mode like he
• 35:45
  was ready to jump off the panic mode.
• 35:47
  Yeah. Adrenaline everything, right?
• 35:51
  Yeah, and I was like, Whoa, man. This is how you can help.
• 35:55
  And so, yeah, we were with her for four hours before EMT
• 35:59
  actually made it to us, and they had to repel lines down and a
• 36:03
  gurney, and then they come down and we help them.
• 36:06
  We also carry her out of the trail halfway.
• 36:10
  The head of tea, Come meet us, halfway through that but they
• 36:13
  did tell us that. Hey, if we wouldn't have been
• 36:15
  for us that it could have went really more, you know, serious
• 36:19
  and worse. How so yeah.
• 36:23
  What are those? You just get there in a moment.
• 36:25
  Luckily, I know some basic first aid things, I was just jumped
• 36:29
  right into it man and to help her out roll-on.
• 36:32
  So, So hopefully on the ventures, you know, you don't
• 36:36
  always run into that but sometimes man, you know, you're
• 36:39
  in the wilderness, you trip something as easy as tripping
• 36:41
  over a rock. Oh yeah he goes.
• 36:44
  The serious injury mud mud is slippery man rocks when they're
• 36:48
  wet it's like ice it's like glass man.
• 36:52
  Right? So you know everybody that's
• 36:55
  listening and or watch and father of the Wolves Outdoor
• 37:00
  Adventures. The Facebook page is going to be
• 37:04
  Added to the show notes and to the description, but father of
• 37:10
  the Wolves Outdoors at gmail.com is how anybody in the area that
• 37:16
  would want to contact you directly can do that?
• 37:20
  Is that, is that correct? Yeah, and this, this, this, this
• 37:25
  little, I never like, I didn't know about this, like that's
• 37:28
  some serious. Like this is, this is the kind
• 37:30
  of stuff that you would like watch on TV.
• 37:34
  On like, you know CNBC or something to be like yeah, man.
• 37:38
  Like this guy just like found this woman off the side of a
• 37:41
  mountain and you what inverter them?
• 37:43
  She'd be dead. Like you saved a woman's life.
• 37:46
  He saved a person's life and your, your knowledge and your
• 37:53
  awareness of how to survive in the wilderness.
• 37:59
  Literally saved the life and that right there, ladies and
• 38:02
  gentlemen, you know, listening and watching like, that's a,
• 38:04
  that's a testament to the Josh's abilities.
• 38:08
  I think if they, you know, if he had any questions about this guy
• 38:12
  legit, I think he's too legit, why?
• 38:17
  I'm hanging up that, you know, learn about it and see it for
• 38:24
  what it needs to be singing is so I think it's really wild dude
• 38:27
  that you were Mention in a while earlier that everything kind of
• 38:31
  went official or you in 2020, which as we all know was an
• 38:36
  absolute shit storm of events. That's a nice way to put it.
• 38:41
  Yeah, it right. And and so Like how do you like,
• 38:48
  where do you go from there? Like 20, 20?
• 38:51
  Let me, let me start. Let me launch a business.
• 38:54
  Let me launch something that like, do you think that that was
• 38:59
  fortuitous and timing because the way the world was at the
• 39:03
  time like, hey Nick now is a perfect time for people to get
• 39:05
  into this. Or was it just like well it's
• 39:07
  now or never or what was going through your mind.
• 39:10
  The time, like I'm just said, that's that's wild.
• 39:12
  Well, one of the thing is, you know, obviously being as active
• 39:15
  position as I am. 20/20 basically like brand just
• 39:20
  everything music in the world straight to the gutters man.
• 39:24
  Mmm, so my main band to reach Runa.
• 39:28
  We instantly, you know, we went through a Rebrand and we started
• 39:32
  like we're just going to restart over.
• 39:34
  We're going to rewrite and do a whole new album.
• 39:37
  So at that point you know, we can't play shows.
• 39:40
  We played like three shows for the whole year so he's like
• 39:43
  well, I was like, man. Like you know, like we were
• 39:47
  talking before I came on, man. I am a creature of staying busy.
• 39:52
  I can't not stay busy. Yay.
• 39:55
  You know for years it's been on my mind to launch this as a
• 40:00
  full-time business. You know, my friend, I was just
• 40:03
  talking about that was there to help me with the lady?
• 40:05
  That, you know, who I've turned into this, like outdoor monster
• 40:08
  himself, man. You know, this guy's always be
• 40:11
  to go out and we were on a venture and one day he was just
• 40:15
  like man. It's on, bro.
• 40:17
  Like, you need to get this out there, you need to take off with
• 40:20
  it and I like the fires and kick the tires, right man.
• 40:23
  So it was like, you know what? And I'm outside, right?
• 40:28
  So, I'm out of time, hiking or camping, and for the first time
• 40:32
  in my entire life, man, I go to two state parks in 2020, and I
• 40:39
  can't even get in because there's a line of people because
• 40:43
  of the at capacity bullshit. Ruled has been going on.
• 40:47
  Oh, and I'm talking about like, you know, it didn't matter what
• 40:49
  day of the week, I went to the state park, I could get indoors.
• 40:53
  And now, for the first time, I'm either accepting to sit here for
• 40:56
  three hours and waiting for this to clear out, or I'm going to
• 41:01
  not get in. And so, it was like, Now's the
• 41:04
  Time and people, they can't go to bars.
• 41:08
  They can't go to music venue. So people are trying to explore
• 41:12
  the outdoors now, and you know, Thing weighed on me.
• 41:16
  How many times did people ask me?
• 41:18
  Well, where can I go do this? Or what do I buy, what do I
• 41:22
  wear? And I was like, now is the time
• 41:26
  this is the perfect time because yeah, I have a professional
• 41:29
  career that pays the bills but one day, maybe this could take
• 41:33
  this place if I don't start it. Now, like you said it's now or
• 41:36
  never, you know, I'll be, I'm either going to sink or I'm
• 41:39
  going to swim and never in my life.
• 41:42
  I've ever sunk. I've always swim.
• 41:44
  So yeah. Try to swim and and I do the
• 41:47
  same for this business and constantly evolving and adding
• 41:51
  more to it. But yeah, man.
• 41:52
  It was, it was one of those take a chance in 2020 because a lot
• 41:56
  of hell, not 2020, that's crazy. Yeah, and I think that's really
• 42:04
  that really speaks a lot. So it speaks a lot to your to
• 42:08
  your character to your, you know, you as an individual and
• 42:12
  your approach to life. But you know, you and I've been,
• 42:18
  you know, we established a friendship or relationship years
• 42:22
  ago and at the time what it was was purely on like the music
• 42:27
  level and then over the years as we've remained connected through
• 42:31
  social media. Dia is again?
• 42:32
  I'm in Tennessee, or North Carolina.
• 42:33
  It's not like we talk to each other face-to-face, you know.
• 42:37
  I just, I notice a lot of your social media posts and I see a
• 42:41
  lot of heathen related things. And I'm like, man, you know, the
• 42:45
  guys weren't Hammer, he's big into the outdoors.
• 42:48
  He's, you know, weighing freaking Nordic.
• 42:53
  Folk instruments that he may or may not like that that's causing
• 42:57
  him to pull his hair out. Preferably or you know what I
• 43:00
  mean? And and and so it like it
• 43:03
  elicits a question, you know, like how much of that how much
• 43:08
  of You know, you're the how much of Norse or dramatic, Heathen
• 43:15
  replays, a factor into your approach to this business and if
• 43:21
  any if you're willing to talk about it, you know, and and was
• 43:24
  it always there. Did it like it was a was a, an
• 43:29
  ember kind of sparked into a fire.
• 43:31
  I was just um, I guess I'm curious as much as everybody
• 43:35
  listening and watching is like, what's the deal with that?
• 43:39
  Talk about it, you know. Oh absolutely.
• 43:42
  Yeah. So for me either he started
• 43:46
  actually really early really early in my life, you know, back
• 43:51
  when you can probably 12 13 man, I have always been as obsessed
• 43:57
  with Scandinavia and as culture and learning about it.
• 44:02
  And, you know, I was always studying mythologies and you
• 44:07
  know, the calming comment thing called in school is obviously.
• 44:11
  Mythology but of course, I found my love interest in Norse
• 44:15
  mythology and when you when you start looking at their stories
• 44:19
  you know obviously both have similarities and they have their
• 44:22
  differences but to me the Norse spoke more as far as being like
• 44:29
  as we were talking about the outdoors and having to me, I
• 44:32
  felt like has way more appreciation for wildlife, the
• 44:38
  Wilderness and the outdoors. And that that and consents in
• 44:42
  the hole is who I am. I always respect nature to its
• 44:46
  fullest. So start at a very young age
• 44:51
  throughout the years, always loved it, you know, the even one
• 44:55
  of my past fans, I wrote a whole album.
• 45:00
  It was all like and being it was really is actually a Deathcore.
• 45:05
  Yeah. It was a death for album, man.
• 45:06
  We've had shirt the guy who's on his ass.
• 45:09
  Wow. So You know, very like that,
• 45:12
  it's been a pain for me. This was it, something that you
• 45:15
  know, a year or two ago I just like, oh, this is who I am on a
• 45:19
  bandwagon. Bingo, you know, like I don't
• 45:24
  like things as popular. Let me just cash in on this sort
• 45:27
  of thing right now, because we can obviously now get shirts.
• 45:34
  And during a lot easier, you know.
• 45:36
  So it's happening right man? That's printing.
• 45:40
  So you can. And obviously get your hands on
• 45:42
  things a little bit easier, but then it's just like now I see a
• 45:45
  guy wearing you know the hammer and I'm like you watch the show
• 45:49
  Vikings, don't you do? Yeah, you get that you know like
• 45:54
  well why are you wearing it? You know, are you do you like
• 45:57
  the show to you know they like the TV show or are you about it
• 46:01
  right? And then they start telling you
• 46:04
  what are you about? You know, there's always that
• 46:06
  there's like, it's like it's like layers of an onion.
• 46:08
  You gotta peel away. At the layers to understand and
• 46:13
  I feel like with you man, like so much of what this religion as
• 46:20
  we could identify. It kind of captures is a very
• 46:25
  Macho hyper-masculine, sort of thing, which do it to a large
• 46:32
  degree. To me is is toxic, you know,
• 46:37
  because there's no gender here like This is not, it's just for
• 46:42
  the guys and it's just for the dudes.
• 46:44
  And man, I got a beard, you know?
• 46:48
  I'm a beard. But like like that's how like I
• 46:50
  feel like some people just like walk around like, yeah, I can
• 46:53
  grow a great beard and I know I've, I bought this awesome
• 46:57
  Hammer from a Swedish company and and, you know, hail Odin.
• 47:02
  But right, there's there's obviously way more layers that
• 47:07
  and that's superficial. It's on the surface, the the He
• 47:11
  needs the action the what you do, right?
• 47:14
  Connecting to Nature getting back to the way our ancestors,
• 47:19
  literally lived day-to-day like this wasn't like a thing that
• 47:23
  they just like decided to do one day.
• 47:24
  It's what they had to do to survive.
• 47:28
  Exactly and how we connect with that, how we reconnect with
• 47:33
  that, you know, and I feel like you were like I feel like what
• 47:37
  you're offering in our in our region of the country is is
• 47:40
  Providing people, whether they're Heathen or not because
• 47:44
  let's face it. It's not a heathen facing
• 47:46
  business even though a lot of your branding and aesthetic
• 47:49
  tends to capture that. It's not exclusive to people
• 47:55
  focusing on that. I'm sure.
• 47:57
  I mean, maybe you want to speak to that, you welcome clients
• 48:00
  from any walks of life, that just want to get back to Nature,
• 48:03
  right? Exactly.
• 48:04
  Yeah, yeah. Just, you know, and that was the
• 48:06
  thing when I Came up with the name, obviously.
• 48:13
  Henry basically, father wolves, but also because I didn't, you
• 48:18
  know, that I have a one pie bird that's been in my life for ten
• 48:22
  years. So, it was, what I was coming up
• 48:26
  with what am I going to name this good?
• 48:30
  You know it. I could not get around it at all
• 48:34
  to not go in this direction. I tried.
• 48:38
  I tried to make it something all.
• 48:40
  Catch you. If you do some pine tree here
• 48:42
  and I man and just was like, huh, and you start looking and I
• 48:47
  know, that's what I did was I was looking at other businesses
• 48:49
  because really in this region, there's not many tour guides,
• 48:52
  there's some that take, you know, that Appalachian Trail and
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  that's all they do. And I commend them, I think
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  that's awesome as well because they do very similar work but
• 49:03
  there's just not really many. But me, so I just look in other
• 49:05
  areas and, you know, the same as the catchy.
• 49:08
  Like here's some Trees and let's go Wilderness outtakes or
• 49:13
  something, you know, this was like yeah, I couldn't get around
• 49:16
  it man. And so, my friend, that I've
• 49:19
  been talking about that I've helped evolve into this outdoor
• 49:23
  must meet, you know, he's a tattoo artist and he he helped
• 49:26
  design or he did design that and he took it image.
• 49:30
  So the imagery is of me with my wolf, dog.
• 49:34
  We were up in the mountains upon this cool looking tree, he took
• 49:38
  that and laid it then. Give me the mount these symbols
• 49:43
  and everything around it, and it was just when he said it.
• 49:47
  I was like, that's it, like I love it.
• 49:50
  There we go. Everybody for all the, for all
• 49:54
  the midgard, musings members. This is this is what Josh is
• 50:00
  talking about, right? So for everybody listening, you
• 50:02
  don't know what I'm talking about.
• 50:03
  You got to head over to his Facebook page.
• 50:05
  If you're not a Facebook guy or gal, this what we're talking
• 50:08
  about. But you know, this is the, you
• 50:11
  know, you got the What is it? The Legacy Homer?
• 50:17
  No vote, big this year. It's the big, the big decedent,
• 50:20
  the Nordic compass with the mountains and that that's,
• 50:22
  that's a artistic representation of you and your wolf hybrid,
• 50:26
  right, right? Having, you know, the compass
• 50:30
  was a big part, you know, because if you go back and like
• 50:33
  and you look at outdoor companies, so just have your
• 50:36
  basic north south east west conference right.
• 50:39
  Mmm. So it made sense to slap that
• 50:41
  they're give me a little bit of mountains in the die.
• 50:44
  Then the font and, you know, it was beautiful.
• 50:47
  I was like yeah, that's it. Like that.
• 50:49
  That's the direction we're going.
• 50:50
  That's it. I'm happy.
• 50:52
  And we're going with it. The wolf's actually in here.
• 50:54
  Now, she's just passed out sleeping behind the camera, but
• 50:59
  she's fine. She's been a, she's been a big
• 51:01
  part of my life man. She'll be 10 this year and I've
• 51:06
  had her since she was 10 months old, and I researched having a
• 51:12
  wolf hybrid for three. Three years before I made the
• 51:16
  commitment because they, they are a different breed high
• 51:20
  maintenance. Maybe?
• 51:21
  Yeah, they're not your average dog, man.
• 51:25
  However, it she is the friendliest, most goofiest
• 51:29
  animal you could ever meet, you know.
• 51:33
  But you know, she, she's very picky about things like she
• 51:37
  meant. She loves the outdoors and she
• 51:39
  sees the hiking bag to choose spinning.
• 51:42
  She's read it all about. She's howling at me, man.
• 51:45
  She's ready to go. You know, some trips I don't get
• 51:49
  to take her and she just like, gives me big pouty faces but but
• 51:53
  she she's a great asset to have. There's even been times where
• 51:58
  she sniffed out other animals and one time she stepped out the
• 52:02
  bear and she alert. And one of my friends one time
• 52:06
  didn't believe it. Like what do you mean?
• 52:08
  She'll learn she blah blah blah cause she's like really quiet
• 52:11
  and she's excited. She does.
• 52:14
  Has her woo, house and stuff. And we were sitting around a
• 52:18
  campfire. And what she does is, she starts
• 52:21
  sniffing the air and issue, when she pins it where it's at, she
• 52:25
  looks back at and it, she'll go back and there's a look back at
• 52:29
  me and she does it until I pay attention.
• 52:31
  Mmm. Sure enough man, we shined a
• 52:34
  spotlight in the direction. There was a black bear like
• 52:38
  Hagen. She's a part of it so it
• 52:58
  definitely fits. It fits like like a glove, you
• 53:03
  know, it just, it's perfect. So you know for anybody that is
• 53:12
  Like, what is your reach? Just out of curiosity.
• 53:14
  Like, do you Do you have like a limit like, you know, within 500
• 53:20
  miles of the Charlotte North Carolina area?
• 53:22
  Or is it just like, hey if you're in the air and you want
• 53:24
  to go a skirt, you know, on an Excursion run adventure, it's
• 53:29
  like it doesn't matter. Just hit me up kind of thing or
• 53:33
  well. Yeah and it's predominantly
• 53:37
  Donnelly, North Carolina, South Carolina, you know, a lot of
• 53:40
  people don't think of South Carolina having some mountains
• 53:44
  but they do and they reach their fight.
• 53:47
  Sure. Man they have one of the most
• 53:48
  gorgeous leaks down. There were waterfalls are
• 53:51
  falling into the lake so and I tried to come up to Tennessee as
• 54:00
  much as I can actually my family's from Elizabeth and
• 54:05
  that's probably what a couple hours from you.
• 54:07
  Yeah. That's a Gotham City.
• 54:10
  Yeah that's that's like Northeast Northeast of us so,
• 54:16
  you know, like Johnson City. Yeah.
• 54:18
  Like you're about to three hours so Roxanna.
• 54:23
  Yeah, I do a little bit of their Virginia just over the state
• 54:29
  line. There's a few areas up that way
• 54:30
  if they're closer to that side and they want to go that way and
• 54:34
  then Georgia, as well. I've done some exploring last
• 54:38
  year, scoping out a few cool places, man.
• 54:41
  And, and Georgia was one of those places.
• 54:44
  That, you know, I was always going to Atlanta, I can't stand
• 54:48
  Elana. So like Lana, yeah, right,
• 55:10
  what's that? What's that?
• 55:11
  What's that place? It's a big I mean it's a big
• 55:16
  attraction. It's got It's like a tell the
• 55:19
  Dragon. Talking about that, it may not
• 55:23
  be necessarily that, but it's got the whole, it's like a civil
• 55:26
  war carving on the side of the mountain.
• 55:28
  You know, I'm talking about? Was it Stone?
• 55:32
  What's this? What is the name of Stone
• 55:34
  Mountain? Okay, so like, yeah.
• 55:38
  And he was like, like, no disrespect.
• 55:40
  But Josh was like, yeah, okay. Stone Mountain.
• 55:42
  Woohoo. You know, to me, but whatever,
• 55:46
  dude, I'm just saying like, But the sphincter of the Griffin.
• 56:00
  No, that's what I'm talking about.
• 56:21
  Work with this doing it fun stuff.
• 56:24
  Man was able to link up with this Campground, they do a whole
• 56:27
  package deal and then I'm like, hey, I'm the guy to back, let's
• 56:31
  go but it's right off the Tail of the Dragon is.
• 56:34
  So like all day long. Like you're seeing you know
• 56:37
  million dollar sports cars, run up and down packs of motorcycles
• 56:41
  man. That's a very popular going up
• 56:43
  to Fontana Dam and all that. I mean it's beautiful, it's
• 56:45
  gorgeous yeah it's one of them like you know be careful when
• 56:50
  you're doing that if If you're even if you're just in your
• 56:52
  normal vehicle, I could just a family car.
• 56:55
  You got to watch man that people they're up there, no haul ass
• 56:59
  around, them curves man. And oh yeah dangerous I did a
• 57:01
  lot of people die every year out there though.
• 57:04
  That's kind of like the place of the New York where I'm where I
• 57:08
  grew up, not necessarily where I'm from, but like the Delaware
• 57:11
  River, a lot of the the Sullivan County New York.
• 57:19
  He ever go up North and you decide to explore some of those
• 57:23
  areas up in there, you know, around like Just like Sullivan
• 57:30
  County New York. You know, the batch of kill that
• 57:35
  that whole area. Same way, like they filmed know
• 57:41
  how like they film car commercials where it's like
• 57:42
  super windy treacherous road. Cars are like you know, just one
• 57:47
  and through like they film car commercials up in those areas,
• 57:52
  you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.
• 57:57
  It is the same. Kind of stuff, man.
• 58:00
  It's the same kind of stuff, so if you ever like if you ever
• 58:03
  Venture far up, north that way, exciting stuff, but yeah for
• 58:08
  everybody, let's and let you know, Miss A North Carolina,
• 58:11
  maybe South Carolina Virginia Northeast, Tennessee parts of
• 58:15
  Georgia, definitely check out, father of the Wolves Outdoor
• 58:21
  Adventures on Facebook. All that's going to be linked in
• 58:25
  the show notes and in the description, if you want to
• 58:27
  reach out to Josh, Rectly. It's going to be father of the
• 58:31
  Wolves Outdoors at gmail.com, again, Linked In the show notes.
• 58:37
  And in the description, He's your guy.
• 58:41
  I mean he's your guy and he's your guide to my understanding
• 58:46
  because the man literally saved a woman's life.
• 58:49
  I don't know how much more like if you need that on a piece of
• 58:53
  paper you heard it here and you saw it here that that that
• 58:58
  that's all the credibility that I would need.
• 59:01
  Like yep, that's fine. You know the world could be
• 59:05
  crashing down around me and if I'm out stuck in the middle of
• 59:08
  bumfuck, nowhere, sorry for the language.
• 59:10
  But and Josh is here. He's got me.
• 59:16
  You know how we'll find you food?
• 59:17
  I will build your shelter and build you.
• 59:19
  A fire will be good. Yeah, we'll be good.
• 59:23
  So Josh, I really appreciate the level of candidness.
• 59:29
  You know, how much you were able to and willing to share about,
• 59:33
  not only what you, what you do as far as a business goes but
• 59:36
  kind of touched on a little bit into your Heathen re As we wrap
• 59:41
  the podcast, there's there's this segment where we talk about
• 59:47
  our, we pick like a random stanza of the, have them all.
• 59:50
  So you know, as you as you've expressed and as you know, all
• 59:55
  them all being a pretty popular section of the poetic Edda
• 1:00:02
  amongst Norris and dramatic heathens and the the stanza that
• 1:00:07
  we picked for today, I like to, you know, read from a number of
• 1:00:11
  different translations and always if I have a guest as we
• 1:00:13
  do today, Talk about the meaning of the stanza amongst, not just
• 1:00:19
  you know here's what it means to me, but how it is, it hit you or
• 1:00:23
  how does it hit the the, you know, the person who I'm talking
• 1:00:27
  with? And we, you know, open it up for
• 1:00:28
  discussion. So the the stanza for discussion
• 1:00:32
  today is stanza, 47 from the Hover Ball.
• 1:00:38
  So anybody listening watching, you know, whatever translation
• 1:00:42
  of the Hall of mul that you read from, I read from a number of
• 1:00:44
  different. Ation.
• 1:00:46
  So we've got Auden and Taylor Bellows Ray Hollander, which is
• 1:00:53
  always a fun one. Terry who work and Jackson
• 1:00:57
  Crawford. Specifically, The Wanderers hog
• 1:01:01
  maw. So I'll start with the audit and
• 1:01:05
  Taylor translation, which is Let's see here.
• 1:01:10
  It's a young and alone on a long road.
• 1:01:14
  Once I lost my way, rich, I felt when I found another man
• 1:01:22
  rejoices in, man, Bellows translation, reads young.
• 1:01:29
  Once young was, I once and wandered alone and not of the
• 1:01:36
  road, I knew Rich that. I feel when a comrade I found or
• 1:01:43
  man is man's Delight. The brave translation reads
• 1:01:48
  young was, I once I walked alone and bewildered seemed in the
• 1:01:53
  way. Then I found me another and Rich
• 1:01:56
  I fought me from and is the joy of man.
• 1:02:01
  Hollander is Young once I once young one young was, I once And
• 1:02:08
  went along and wandering lost my way when a friend I found I felt
• 1:02:14
  me rich man is cheered by man. The Terry translation reads
• 1:02:21
  always as a young man, I traveled alone and I would lose
• 1:02:26
  my way. I felt I was rich if I made a
• 1:02:30
  friend, no, man by himself is happy.
• 1:02:36
  The Thorpe translation reads. I was once young, I was
• 1:02:41
  journeying alone and lost my way.
• 1:02:44
  Rich, I thought myself. When I met another man is the
• 1:02:49
  joy of man. And then in the Jackson,
• 1:02:53
  Crawford. Wanderers Hall of mul finally,
• 1:02:58
  we'll go, I was young once I walked alone and I became lost
• 1:03:05
  on my way. I felt like I was rich when I
• 1:03:07
  met another traveler people's Joy is in other people.
• 1:03:19
  Now I feel like that is a like, just it's random.
• 1:03:28
  Because again before talking to you, I didn't have like I'm
• 1:03:31
  talking to Josh about wandering in the wilderness and finding,
• 1:03:37
  you know, having people who have never been in the wilderness
• 1:03:40
  before finding comfort and finding you know, value in
• 1:03:46
  another person and it Another man or another, you know what I
• 1:03:49
  mean like in yet, this is where we find ourselves and I think
• 1:03:53
  that it really hits a nerve or it strikes a chord.
• 1:03:57
  As it were about the fact that we as human beings are social
• 1:04:03
  creatures Joshua talking about earlier with the fact that when
• 1:04:06
  you launch this whole thing publicly, father Wills Outdoors
• 1:04:10
  during a time when social interaction was almost stripped
• 1:04:16
  from Humanity. There was this Renting there was
• 1:04:18
  this isolation there was this focus on isolation and you
• 1:04:23
  decided that that was a good time.
• 1:04:27
  To publicly launched a business that focused on human
• 1:04:32
  interaction and the fact that we are social creatures, we cannot
• 1:04:38
  survive on isolation, you know, right?
• 1:04:43
  How does it, how does it? How does, how does all this like
• 1:04:46
  hearing it here in the different translations and stuff?
• 1:04:48
  Like, what is it? What what do you think?
• 1:04:50
  Like stands out to you from from, from your perspective, I
• 1:04:54
  mean it's it is ironic That would would play into what I'm
• 1:04:59
  doing. I guess I agree with you on that
• 1:05:02
  because the way you know, I took that translation even through
• 1:05:06
  them all is someone and even in myself in my life before you
• 1:05:11
  know I've always been deemed a lone wolf to you know, by myself
• 1:05:16
  and there's times in life where I've strayed away from things
• 1:05:20
  that normally when do or around people and then have found
• 1:05:24
  myself come back full circle. In film or hole, so to speak
• 1:05:29
  around those people in my life. So, yeah, I mean, I feel like
• 1:05:36
  it's the same, you know, I just want to help people continue
• 1:05:40
  being happy and if you know that that's a pretty touching
• 1:05:45
  translations, you did there, man.
• 1:05:46
  I like that one a lot because it's basically I feel like it's
• 1:05:50
  someone being a straight away and finding them wholesomeness
• 1:05:54
  amongst company. Yeah.
• 1:05:56
  And come. Open E, you know that, that's so
• 1:06:01
  much. I feel that in modern even re or
• 1:06:06
  in modern paganism, you know, there's a lot of solo people, a
• 1:06:10
  lot of solo, practitioners as lot of folks that here that
• 1:06:14
  haven't found the social construct.
• 1:06:19
  In their area that I think he even re ultimately thrives in.
• 1:06:25
  I feel like this particular path in paganism.
• 1:06:28
  This particular approach to Heathen because about different
• 1:06:35
  polytheistic beliefs. You know, this this one is
• 1:06:42
  specifically Socially and community-based.
• 1:06:47
  There's it's almost like you can't appreciate and absorb the
• 1:06:51
  full benefit of what Haven re has to offer.
• 1:06:53
  Dramatic. Keeping me has to offer without
• 1:06:55
  tribe without Community without Social interactions.
• 1:07:01
  You know? And your tribe doesn't have to
• 1:07:02
  be so in like it doesn't have to be a certain number of people.
• 1:07:06
  Like your tribe can be like for us here.
• 1:07:08
  You know in my in my are right now at the time of this podcast
• 1:07:12
  you know our tribe is like three title carrying members and
• 1:07:16
  family or whatever. Like it's all in in whatever.
• 1:07:20
  But it's there's still that sense of family there still that
• 1:07:23
  sense of belonging to something and I think that a lot of people
• 1:07:31
  nowadays are looking for that, right?
• 1:07:34
  I don't know what if you get a sense of that in your area, but
• 1:07:36
  at least in our area, you know, a lot of people are looking to
• 1:07:39
  be a part of something and they don't know or they don't have
• 1:07:43
  any specific thing that they know that they can be a part of.
• 1:07:47
  And I feel like what you're offering, Josh specifically in
• 1:07:50
  your area is a way for people to connect and to learn about
• 1:07:54
  things that they can. Share with their people.
• 1:07:58
  And whether it becomes tribal at the, you know, more people
• 1:08:03
  become a part of it, you're planting a seed in a way, you
• 1:08:09
  know, exactly. And then, no matter what you
• 1:08:13
  look at it. Like, like I said, I deem myself
• 1:08:16
  as a lone wolf individual, you know, I've been by myself most
• 1:08:21
  of my life and and stuff but I have my tribe.
• 1:08:26
  And that tribe is very important to me, you know, I have have
• 1:08:30
  abundance of friends and I like and then the care about.
• 1:08:32
  But I have my tribe man. And yeah, tribe is not one of
• 1:08:36
  the best. Well, if that is the one that I
• 1:08:39
  helped take care of and I helped build the relationship with and
• 1:08:43
  you know what I look forward to being around you know, them them
• 1:08:47
  individuals fan. So tribe has having your tribe
• 1:08:51
  man has it's very important. Yeah.
• 1:08:54
  And I think that, you know, one of the things that the internet
• 1:08:56
  our overall has cultivated fortunately and unfortunately is
• 1:09:05
  how easy we can connect with people and sometimes that
• 1:09:10
  connection can You know like portray a miss miss portrays or
• 1:09:21
  misinterpret like just because you're good friends with
• 1:09:24
  somebody online, don't mean that their tribe, you know what I
• 1:09:26
  mean, like doesn't mean that they're an extension of your
• 1:09:29
  family. Like there's a level of
• 1:09:30
  connection that you have to have with somebody and I feel like
• 1:09:33
  the things like you're doing on an interpersonal level, you
• 1:09:38
  know, you're literally taking people after you've talked to
• 1:09:42
  them and understand like you've set that expectation.
• 1:09:45
  But now like we're out, we're out going and we're doing the
• 1:09:47
  thing that builds a level of trust that cannot be built on
• 1:09:55
  line over long distance. Like I'm sorry like I've known
• 1:09:58
  you for several years. Like I'm not going to trust you
• 1:10:01
  as much as I ever could. If I were to let you know go
• 1:10:03
  hiking for six seven eight miles but in places that I've never
• 1:10:07
  been before, you know? Like yeah we're cool like we
• 1:10:10
  know each other and that's you know, we've met in person like
• 1:10:13
  that's happened. But I'm just saying like right
• 1:10:15
  You're not going to experience that level of trust.
• 1:10:18
  You're going to experience, you're not going to be able to
• 1:10:20
  experience. Not that you it's not it's not
• 1:10:23
  an initial thing. You're not going to be given the
• 1:10:25
  opportunity to build that level of trust that frith, you know,
• 1:10:30
  that that Mutual trust that Mutual obligation between a
• 1:10:33
  human being without being with them in person.
• 1:10:37
  I feel like you're doing that and in your way with, you know,
• 1:10:41
  father of the Wolves. So I applaud you for that and I
• 1:10:45
  think you're Doing the tremendous level of service to
• 1:10:48
  the community and I look forward to seeing what you're able to
• 1:10:51
  offer, you know, going forward with with everybody and anybody
• 1:10:55
  that wants to be a part of that. And I think anybody listening
• 1:10:58
  and watching that's respectively in our area that wants to you
• 1:11:04
  know take Josh up, you need to you need to hit them up so you
• 1:11:07
  know check out the the show notes in the description and
• 1:11:10
  stuff and then in and book a session, man I die, you know.
• 1:11:15
  Formally or informally, you know, my wife's family is in
• 1:11:19
  North Carolina. I have some family North
• 1:11:20
  Carolina to spread abroad, but you know, when, when it went in
• 1:11:25
  as the time allows and I'm like, hey you know what?
• 1:11:27
  Let's go get lost somewhere or try to dude, you hit me.
• 1:11:32
  I appreciate that man. And you hit me up, man.
• 1:11:35
  I'll give you a good Adventure, man.
• 1:11:37
  Get us. What are the things that?
• 1:11:39
  You know what you're saying is building that trust, man.
• 1:11:43
  I want to have that one. My clients and I want them to
• 1:11:46
  feel safe and you know, and I do see that and a lot of times, you
• 1:11:51
  know, they're nervous meeting me and it's like, okay, with talk
• 1:11:54
  about it, then we get out there and you can see that they're
• 1:12:00
  kind of at that point where it's like, you know what, I don't
• 1:12:02
  know him, but I'm gonna have to trust him.
• 1:12:03
  I wanted this and then they start seeing the things and to
• 1:12:07
  see me put it together for him and making sure that they're
• 1:12:09
  comfortable and they got everything.
• 1:12:11
  And then at the end, you know, they, you know, So and it's a
• 1:12:16
  business, you know? And there's those points at
• 1:12:18
  times, man were like taking the money for is like, it's not
• 1:12:24
  really, I don't do it for the money, you know.
• 1:12:26
  It sure it's if it could, you know, one day, be my income
• 1:12:29
  full-time. That'd be great.
• 1:12:31
  But you know it's more or less the reward.
• 1:12:33
  I get from this is seeing these people happy and seeing them
• 1:12:39
  just overwhelmed with joy for the first time ever.
• 1:12:41
  Seeing, you know, when 60 to 80 foot tall wall Fall up close,
• 1:12:46
  you know, or standing on top of the Blue Ridge, and actually
• 1:12:49
  overlooking, just beautiful mountains.
• 1:12:53
  And sometimes I like, you know, I feel bad.
• 1:12:55
  If I got to take the money because this is part of the
• 1:12:57
  business, but it's, you know, just seeing the connection that
• 1:13:02
  that happens with it and and, and do receiving the trust in
• 1:13:06
  the end, this is very important. You know, and just again man I
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  love connecting people with nature and Show them things that
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  they never thought they would ever see or just didn't think to
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  look out there. Yeah.
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  Now I think it's I think it's tremendously valuable and I
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  think that the more that people who haven't experienced that yet
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  to experience it, the better that they are becoming equipped
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  to service and provide for their own hearts and homes know and
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  show their tribe. Hey I've done this for a few
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  times. I want to go take my try about
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  Hayden, teach them this and show on this.
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  Ya know, one of the things I tell people is you just thought
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  in your front yard, you can look up at the sky at night, see the
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  stars, but I can promise you unless you're miles and miles
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  and miles away from civilization, you will never see
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  the stars as beautiful. They are until you're in that
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  for Smith and, you know, just the small things like that, that
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  people would never think of or take.
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  For granted man. And then they could get out
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  there just sitting in a hammock stare at these Bright Stars
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  amongst the ponds and stuff, you know.
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  Yeah, follow up things like that man.
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  Is is now doors. Has it dude?
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  And I just hope you connect more people with it.
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  Yeah, and that's, that's tremendous.
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  And I want to see that happen more.
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  So everybody that's listening and watching please, you know,
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  check the show notes check the description for the ways that
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  you can become a part of this. If you're in the area that you
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  want to be, you know, connecting with Josh and what he does.
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  Again, it's father of the Wolves Outdoor Adventures Facebook.
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  There's going to be a website. I'm sure that that will be
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  updated on your social media as well.
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  Yes, when it hasn't lost billable.
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  Yep. So as it launches, I'll be
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  Sharon it out there maybe because I am excited to get that
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  out there because I do get a lot of questions that come in and
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  I'm limited in what I could do with the Big Cartel and I was
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  like I've got to really fix this so I'm really excited to get
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  this launched and soon as it's out there to be shared, sweet.
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  So yeah everybody that's listening and watching check out
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  the show notes, check out the description.
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  That's a horse that I've beaten to death but happily so Josh
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  stay online for just a second. While I while we wrap the
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  podcast up but thank you so much for being on here today and
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  taking the time out of your very, very busy and productive
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  schedule to be on here. It's much appreciated.
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  Thank you, just enjoyed being on here, man.
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  Awesome. It's great to have you.
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  So for everybody else that's listening and watching, you
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  know, as always be sure to check the show notes for all the ways
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  that you can support midgard musings, whether you become a
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  ways you can buy merchandise, you can send your donations,
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• 1:16:16
  It's all notated in the description in the show notes.
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  Thank you all for your continued support and until we talk again,
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  ale and may your Hearth fires continue to burn bright.