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Press Play - Super Mario Bros. · Fandomonium! A Fandom Comedy Game Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to press Play, where we're gonna go through the
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Speaker 1: less than stellar history of video game movies. I'm Drew
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Speaker 1: Shulman and with me is my beef cheek bro and
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Speaker 1: my best buddy Jason Wynn. Now, whether you're watching or
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Speaker 1: playing along with us, now is the time for press Play. Jason,
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Speaker 1: we're doing a podcast just the two of us.
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Speaker 2: No mad In Maudraum. We're in charge. We're gonna address that.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna yeah, We're like, oh yeah, no, two,
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Speaker 2: we're two children who shouldn't be sat next to each
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Speaker 2: other in class and the teachers are away and it's
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Speaker 2: gonna be chaos.
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Speaker 1: And I love that I was that student all the
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Speaker 1: damn time. Like it is very very evident, Like I
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Speaker 1: like I remember like being like in school and they
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Speaker 1: would like see you alphabetically, and like day one it
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Speaker 1: was like alphabetical, day two. Uh you know what these two,
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Speaker 1: I know your names, are this like just gonna move
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Speaker 1: you apart. It's like really why, It's like, oh, we're
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Speaker 1: just changing the order and it's like uh huh, we're
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Speaker 1: the only two being moved.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I know I know what I am. That's
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Speaker 2: that's us this time, and we have this Moniker at
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Speaker 2: the Beef Chick Bros. From our Gate Leapers appearances, and
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Speaker 2: I think that's super appropriate for this first episode. I'm
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Speaker 2: loving it. I guess very Little Brother energy right now,
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Speaker 2: very Player two energy, and I dig that. I dig
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Speaker 2: that You're my Luigi, You're my Green Mario, You're my
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Speaker 2: Mario Mario.
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Speaker 1: That is still I think of all the things this
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Speaker 1: movie gave to, like the greater Mario universe, because I
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Speaker 1: don't think there's anything in this movie that really like
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Speaker 1: carried forward, Like I can't even think of like more
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Speaker 1: modern media in the Mario franchise that like references anything
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Speaker 1: in this but the Mario Mario and Mario Luigi thing
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Speaker 1: is kind of like stuck in the ethos, and I
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Speaker 1: think other media has referenced it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's it's really interesting. We're gonna get right
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Speaker 2: into it, I guess with this movie. Yeah, it's it
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Speaker 2: lives in infamy. I think it's like Nintendo's first foray
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Speaker 2: into licensing out their IP into someone else. It's also
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Speaker 2: like the first video game movie. It's so many first
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Speaker 2: and it's it's rough, it's it's it's choppy to say
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Speaker 2: at the very very least I'm.
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Speaker 1: Trying to think, is this is this the first time
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Speaker 1: Nintendo's like outsourced of projects. There's one other infamous one
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Speaker 1: that they did. Okay, breaking away from the movies. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know the the Zelda CDI games.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what year?
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Speaker 1: Were those just eight?
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Speaker 2: Twise those might be but this is a big project, right,
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Speaker 2: this is a movie. This is a movie. It's going
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Speaker 2: to Western Hollywood. I think I think one thing that
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Speaker 2: you do carry over is we start off the movie
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Speaker 2: immediately we're in the real life city of New York
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Speaker 2: and we're with these two plumber brothers, which is how
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Speaker 2: the new Mario Brothers movie starts as well. I think
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Speaker 2: they're very like Brooklyn. They're very we're taking the Italian
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Speaker 2: plumber idea and we're making them like Italian Americans.
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Speaker 1: It's one of those like weird features of the Mario
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Speaker 1: franchise that like they are plumbers, that like doesn't come
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Speaker 1: up super frequently. I remember the old cartoon covered it
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, okay, and that like they lived
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Speaker 1: in in the real world and like went to the
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Speaker 1: mushroom Kingdom through like literally just like we're fixing a toilet.
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Speaker 1: Why Is there a giant green pipe here? Yes, we're
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Speaker 1: going down. It's you know, the natural thing you do
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Speaker 1: is a plumber explore random magical pipes you find.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to be a very movie heavy thing
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Speaker 2: because you don't start Super Mario Odyssey fixing a toilet, right.
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Speaker 1: No, it's it's specifically the as soon as you're in
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Speaker 1: the video game world, it's like, let's just forget he's
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Speaker 1: a plumber. Like starting up everyone, we're playing tennis, we're
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Speaker 1: go karting, We're not plumbing.
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Speaker 2: Tennis. But that's oddly enough. And I think I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: hit this point straight away. This movie lives in infamy
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Speaker 2: as being awful and terrible, and we're gonna hit all
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Speaker 2: those points, don't you worry. Oh yeah, controversial take, at
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Speaker 2: least for the start of the movie. It is that
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Speaker 2: shit insane, But I think it's quite charming. I actually think,
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Speaker 2: what is it? It's Bob Hoskins and John Leguizama play our
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Speaker 2: Techeler Mario brothers, and I think when they're together there
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Speaker 2: they've got a brotherly like chemistry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say like despite like as we'll get
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Speaker 1: into a little bit later with some of the more
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Speaker 1: like behind the scenes stuff I've like looked up and
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Speaker 1: their lack of interest in this project as he's gone. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they really do encompass these characters very well. Like if
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Speaker 1: I really had to see like a modern day like
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Speaker 1: two adults living in New York as plumbers turned superheroes,
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Speaker 1: Like I could not imagine a better casting at the
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Speaker 1: time for those two. Yeah, and like again, I'm a
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Speaker 1: huge Hoskins fan. I think Roger Rabbit is one of
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Speaker 1: the great time. Yeah, so like him in this role,
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Speaker 1: Like I always sort of equate the two because it's
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Speaker 1: a very funny, like yeah, fish out of Water story
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Speaker 1: where he's like the hard boil, real grounded person.
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Speaker 2: He plays Mario. He plays Mario Mario that way exactly
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Speaker 2: where it's like the very first like ten minutes of
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Speaker 2: the movie, it's just about trying to hook Luigi up
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Speaker 2: with this cute girl that he met down the street.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like wingman energy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just this really charming quality about He's like
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Speaker 2: a what I tell you, Luigi, you follow me, you
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Speaker 2: get the girls, And Luigi's just like, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you had a hand in that at all, And
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Speaker 2: I just I find it maybe it's because we live
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Speaker 2: in an era of modern movies where everything is kind
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Speaker 2: of recycled and there's just quips and all this other stuff.
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Speaker 2: But I do find that minus the Mario elements of
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Speaker 2: this movie, this movie is extremely charming and weird and
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Speaker 2: very nineties.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so again i'll allow a peak behind the curtain.
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Speaker 1: This is our first episode, our first recording. We did
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Speaker 1: discuss a little bit of the movie kind of just
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Speaker 1: in leading up to this first episode, and we both
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Speaker 1: kind of came to the same agreement of like, yes,
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Speaker 1: it's not a great Mario movie. It's not like a
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Speaker 1: great Nintendo franchise movie, but it's like wholesome in fun
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Speaker 1: and decent film. Like I liked the characters. I like, like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's a little plot holes here and there. There's some
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Speaker 1: massive plot holes here, little there's lots of like questionable decisions,
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Speaker 1: and like the production was a shit show. We all
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Speaker 1: we've all heard the stories and we'll go over a
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Speaker 1: few later, but like, ultimately, if you've removed the fact
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Speaker 1: that this is trying to be a movie based off
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Speaker 1: video game characters, it's a fun movie.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: So I want to give myone a little recap because
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Speaker 1: some people don't have one. Again, a lot of these
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Speaker 1: older films hard to find on streaming or like access
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Speaker 1: to them in a way that is like feasible. So
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Speaker 1: if you haven't watched this movie recently or you know,
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Speaker 1: avoided it like most people tend to recommend you do,
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Speaker 1: I have a super brief recap for you, which is
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Speaker 1: just as simply we have plombers Mario and Luigi. They
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Speaker 1: get transported to a parallel universe called Dino Hatton, where
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Speaker 1: a de evolved King Koopa seeks to merge his world
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Speaker 1: with ours. The brother's team up with Princess Daisy not
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Speaker 1: Peach Daisy, who was the key to stopping Coopa's plan.
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Speaker 1: They navigate a dystopian city filled with strange creatures and technology,
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Speaker 1: facing various challenges as they try to rescue Daisy and
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Speaker 1: forwark Koopa's evil scheme. Ultimately they control that. They confront
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Speaker 1: Koopa in a at all to say, both worlds and
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Speaker 1: they rescue the princess. I mean, like on paper, the
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Speaker 1: plot is very a Mario movie. It is a princess
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Speaker 1: gets kidnapped by King Cooper or Bowser, and they go
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Speaker 1: stop him in his Dino world. It just so happens.
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Speaker 1: The world of this movie is a weird like Manhattan
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Speaker 1: but Dinosaur did by which it's just it's humans in
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Speaker 1: weird pug rock clothing that evolved from diners and a
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Speaker 1: monkey's dino Sapiens Dino.
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Speaker 2: This movie definitely came out at an era where like
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Speaker 2: you can definitely tell it came out after Back to
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Speaker 2: the Future two. Yeah, like the fashion and the set design. Uh,
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Speaker 2: definitely calls back to things like that Ghostbusters a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Even it starts off like the first four minutes of
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Speaker 2: the movie is insanity because they introduce the idea of multiverse.
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Speaker 2: They introduce the idea of dinosaurs being not not convergent
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Speaker 2: like evolution, just being transported to another dimension. They're from
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Speaker 2: our universe. They get transported and evolved into us, but
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Speaker 2: more aggressive. And then there's a baby that gets transported
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Speaker 2: in an egg to a like yeah, uh, it's it's insanity.
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Speaker 2: But if you look past.
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Speaker 1: That, it's it feels like such a weird like like
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Speaker 1: if you showed someone this movie with like no context,
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Speaker 1: it was like, it's a super Mario movie. You've played
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Speaker 1: the games, maybe you've seen the new movie. Let's go
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Speaker 1: watch this one now. In the first four minutes are
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Speaker 1: just like, wait, what's happening? The dinosaurs are going extinct?
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Speaker 1: Why is this happening? What does this matter? Why is
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Speaker 1: there an egg baby? Yeah? Where where does any of
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Speaker 1: this meet up with any of the media I have
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Speaker 1: consumed up to this point about the Superhero Brothers, Like
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Speaker 1: at least at this point there was like what two
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Speaker 1: maybe three games out at this point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which have no plots.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like we like literally we have the Yes,
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Speaker 1: Yoshi comes from a dino land. Okay, dinosaurs have a land.
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Speaker 3: Check.
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Speaker 2: I have a note here and it's next to the
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Speaker 2: Yoshi appearing when oh yes movie that I said, everything
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Speaker 2: related to Mario in this movie is horrifying and awfo
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Speaker 2: and I don't like it, and Yoshi especially is one
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Speaker 2: of them. It's so funny that like they get transported
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Speaker 2: to this alternate universe that is supposed to be DeVault
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Speaker 2: dinosaurs and the one dinosaur creature in it is horrifying.
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Speaker 2: Like he's as bad as the little Gumba people.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the Goopa people gave me nightmare. It's
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Speaker 1: a kid. Yoshi. I kind of love and I still
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Speaker 1: do and I actually learned it's a fully like it's
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Speaker 1: a puppet. I could see it. That is, that is
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Speaker 1: nine people operating a puppet who maybe gets what like
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Speaker 1: a minute of screen time that's generous, Yeah, like forty
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Speaker 1: five seconds maybe, Like honestly, like I assumed it was
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Speaker 1: just like really shitty CG for its time, where like
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Speaker 1: decent CG. Four times it looked good and then it's like, no,
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Speaker 1: this was like a super animated puppet with like nine handlers,
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, isn't it on screen for like
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Speaker 1: a second? Yeah, And the fact that shows like three times,
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Speaker 1: I was shocked. The effects in this movie are quite good.
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Speaker 1: The very first time they get into Koopa Land, there's
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Speaker 1: this lengthy police chase scene and I think if you
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Speaker 1: stripped away all the Mario elements from that, I think
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Speaker 1: it's quite good because I like the design of the
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Speaker 1: police cars.
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Speaker 2: There's this like weird it's like RoboCop and Back to
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Speaker 2: the Future too.
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Speaker 1: It's like never really like discussed, but it shows up
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Speaker 1: a little bit like they're on a tram system, like
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Speaker 1: they're all like hooked up to a wire in the air, yeah,
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Speaker 1: which is why the car dies when they get too
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Speaker 1: far from the city.
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Speaker 2: There's this there is this wonderful thing where it feels
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Speaker 2: like the people involved in this movie did like it,
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Speaker 2: because I think the acting for some of those actors
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Speaker 2: are pretty stellar for a nineties movie again Tyler, Bob
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Speaker 2: Hoskins and John Legozama. But also Daisy's quite good, like
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Speaker 2: for what she's given. The only person I don't like
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Speaker 2: is King Koopa. I thought he was good and then
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Speaker 2: he gives like a one minute dialogue like monologue in
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Speaker 2: the middle of the movie, and it's bad. It's really bad.
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Speaker 2: But I think if you stripped away all the Mario elements,
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Speaker 2: like the set design, the world's building is quite fascinating
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Speaker 2: and quite dated, like in a good way, like it's
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Speaker 2: very of the nineties late eighties era of here's this
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Speaker 2: futurism that is aesthetically of that era.
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Speaker 1: If that makes it also if we can talk about
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Speaker 1: the aesthetic. So something I caught for the first time,
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Speaker 1: because like again I've seen this movie a handful of times.
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Speaker 2: This is my first viewing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah oh really yeah, oh, this to me was one
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Speaker 1: of those like as a child, my father rented it
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Speaker 1: thinking like it's a Mario movie, like the thing I
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Speaker 1: think every parent saw this one like super Mario, my
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Speaker 1: kid likes a Mario, and then showed them this and
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Speaker 1: they were.
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Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck are they doing to me?
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Speaker 1: The policeman in this film have the word police written
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Speaker 1: on the back of their jackets in like fucking rhinestones.
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Speaker 2: Oh really jeweled.
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Speaker 1: Like I was just like, what that is the campy
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Speaker 1: ish again, the level of camp in this movie. I
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Speaker 1: think it's like one of those like amazing words that
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Speaker 1: you don't like think about when you think of like,
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Speaker 1: because I don't think it was designed to be campy,
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Speaker 1: but it secretly was campy.
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Speaker 2: There's this club scene I did write club scene awful. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it's so long, but there's like parts in it that
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Speaker 2: are very charming and very like cute where it's it's
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Speaker 2: all these things kind of dialed up, and even like,
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Speaker 2: let's talk about some plot here, Ye, there's some nonsensicalness
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Speaker 2: with the villains. They're really dumb and they're really bad,
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Speaker 2: But you talk about camp and if you think about
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Speaker 2: in that lens, which I'm only now doing here, it's
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Speaker 2: quite good. King Koopa Bowser Uh his two henchmen are
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Speaker 2: are awful and idiots and blundering the whole thing. So
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Speaker 2: what is his punishment for them? He evolves them and
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Speaker 2: they become smarter. Uh yeah, And I'm sitting here like, one,
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Speaker 2: that's your punishment for them? To do that to yourself,
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Speaker 2: do that to everyone? Why are you stopping here?
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Speaker 1: Why not just make everyone smart? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: What what are we doing? But on the lens of camp,
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Speaker 2: on the lens of enjoying like movies of this era,
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Speaker 2: Masters of the Universe is when I just remembered, Oh
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Speaker 2: my god, it's kind of awesome. It's kind of cool,
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Speaker 2: it's kind of hilarious, and I think there's a charm
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Speaker 2: to that.
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Speaker 1: Yea and Spike, the two of them, like after being evolved,
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Speaker 1: and like like the banter they have, like both when
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Speaker 1: they're dumb and when they're smart. It is just some
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Speaker 1: of the best improvised banter. I hope it's improvised because
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Speaker 1: it's so good. Yeah, but back yeah, but also, can
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Speaker 1: we discuss like the secret subplot of them where like
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Speaker 1: they become smart and then like they kind of revolt
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Speaker 1: against Kuba in the very last second because they realize
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Speaker 1: he's a bad person. Suddenly they're like, we're smart enough
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Speaker 1: to realize that this whole system is flawed and you're
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Speaker 1: the problem. So we're gonna switch sides last second.
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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just evolve yourself and everyone? Why would
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Speaker 2: she just it's it's so nonsensical. Another awful thing about
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Speaker 2: this movie, please is again the connection to I think
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Speaker 2: everything that they had to connect back to Mario is awful.
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Speaker 2: The fungus because they realize that Daisy's father has become fungus,
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Speaker 2: and so they're trying to save Daisy's father, who was
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Speaker 2: Do I have this right?
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Speaker 1: There was the royalty of this, Like, yes, that's why
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Speaker 1: Daisy is a princess because her father was the king
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Speaker 1: before Koopa stole the kingdom by de evolving him into
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Speaker 1: a fungus.
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Speaker 2: Because because and mushrooms.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I was gonna say, like, like, are they
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Speaker 1: different species, because like they're evolve from dinosaurs. Like he
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Speaker 1: makes it very clear that dinosaurs evolved into dino sapiens,
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Speaker 1: which is that he is. Yeah, which is why when
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Speaker 1: there's like a brief shot of them being de evolved,
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Speaker 1: even the goobas, when they're deevolved, it's just their heads
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Speaker 1: turned back to like small dino heads. Yeah, So are
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Speaker 1: we to believe that Daisy and her father, the King,
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Speaker 1: who's never I don't think given an answer for I
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Speaker 1: think just being the mushroom King or something. Are they
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Speaker 1: are they? Is she like a mushroom safeed? Are they
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Speaker 1: mushroom people? Yeah? We devolved Daisy? Does she become a
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Speaker 1: literal daisy? Is that what it is? Is she actually
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Speaker 1: a daisy? They're plants, dude. The connections are insane. The
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Speaker 1: connections to the Mario universe are insane because they're so bad.
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Speaker 1: Is horrifying. It's so it's Last of Us scary.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: This was the predecessor that the Secret prequel, the Last
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Speaker 1: of Us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't understand why. It seems like if
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Speaker 2: this movie had just been able to be what it was,
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Speaker 2: which is I guess like two Brooklyn dudes going on
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Speaker 2: a weird sci fi adventure exactly, it might have been
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Speaker 2: pretty decent. But they went mushrooms, fungus, horrifyingness like It's okay, Like,
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Speaker 2: as a Mario fan, I don't need it.
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Speaker 1: But that's what I think that the issue is. It's
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Speaker 1: basically they like whether or not they had a decent idea,
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Speaker 1: what they ended up making was something we both agree
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Speaker 1: and I still have is a very fun, silly, like
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Speaker 1: like the Pinnacle of just like eighties like action movie stupid. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't need to make sense, it doesn't need
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Speaker 1: to be perfect. It can just be fun and have
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Speaker 1: a few good set pieces and give you a good
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Speaker 1: like yo ooh, that was fun moment. Yeah. But like
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Speaker 1: they try to tie these things in, like the bomb
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Speaker 1: being such a big deal and like the whole like
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Speaker 1: weird Rube Goldberg esque adventure goes on just to end
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Speaker 1: up backward. It started underneath Bowser, like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to buy the bullet bill because the
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Speaker 2: bullet bill is really cool.
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Speaker 1: It's just a bullet Oh yeah, I've forgot about that
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Speaker 1: until we either rewatch.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it could have been so much cooler,
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Speaker 2: you know exactly.
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Speaker 1: And like I will say, I will give kudos. There
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Speaker 1: is one thing they did that I kind of like.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a direct tie to Mario, but it kind
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Speaker 1: of made it a video game movie. Is when Luigi's like,
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Speaker 1: I could figure out how to drive this weird carpet
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Speaker 1: of the world because it's just like a video game,
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's kudos. That's the way to do it.
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Speaker 2: Because this is the first this is the inaugural of
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Speaker 2: both our podcasts and video game movies. It is it
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Speaker 2: the idea that like in history here because this is
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, is the idea that you think executives
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Speaker 2: would have been like, oh, but we need to add
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Speaker 2: this lore because people like Lord, they need like a grounded,
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Speaker 2: uh explanation of how these things work or they Do
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Speaker 2: you think because there was Mario to this day in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four doesn't have much story to it. Do
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Speaker 2: you feel like that was a sandbox for them to
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Speaker 2: play around and that's where people's heads were at the
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Speaker 2: time of the nineties. They went, let's make this. Let's
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Speaker 2: do weird, crazy sci fi and over the top like
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Speaker 2: version of me.
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Speaker 1: Characters, if I had to guess so again, like in
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Speaker 1: the World of Fun. Facts about this movie is that
17:48
Speaker 1: the script was rewritten so many times and because of this,
17:52
Speaker 1: there is a bunch of little things that like we're
17:54
Speaker 1: more important at some point and then kind of like
17:58
Speaker 1: the story beat was dropped, like there it supposed to
18:00
Speaker 1: be an entire Mario Kart section to this film apparently wow,
18:03
Speaker 1: which that we kind of get a piece of in
18:05
Speaker 1: the police chase. But it was almost like the The
18:09
Speaker 1: criticism it received was it was too mad MAXI because
18:12
Speaker 1: it was them in the desert outside of town. How
18:15
Speaker 1: do we get back? We join a group of like
18:18
Speaker 1: cart racers and we stormed the capitol like and it
18:21
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, it just feels like Mad Max now.
18:23
Speaker 1: So it feels like they basically had like I picture
18:26
Speaker 1: like the whiteboard with those old magnetic like like word
18:29
Speaker 1: tiles used for poetry, and they had like mushroom and
18:34
Speaker 1: koopa dinosaurs and just like a bunch of the buzzwords
18:37
Speaker 1: you heard if you asked, like if you read like
18:39
Speaker 1: the first three pages of the manual for like any
18:42
Speaker 1: of these games, and they were like, cool, write a movie,
18:45
Speaker 1: but you have to include all of the keywords we.
18:47
Speaker 2: Gave you, right, Like maybe a Nintendo had brought that
18:51
Speaker 2: down to the studio. In the studio was like, what
18:54
Speaker 2: are we gonna do with a mushroom? They just have
18:56
Speaker 2: like a white bun mushroom in their hands and they're like,
18:58
Speaker 2: what do we deal with this thing?
19:00
Speaker 1: And that's why it's like like the idea that like
19:03
Speaker 1: like the king being de evolved and like taken out
19:06
Speaker 1: of power but he's not dead is a great way
19:08
Speaker 1: to do it like you're not killing him, you're giving
19:10
Speaker 1: the childhood friendly like he comes back at the end
19:13
Speaker 1: because the bad guy's defeated and happily ever after, and
19:16
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, well what does he turn into? Uh, well,
19:18
Speaker 1: we need mushrooms. What if it's a mushroom because mushrooms
19:21
Speaker 1: are power ups in the world and it can have people. Yeah,
19:24
Speaker 1: And it just feels like it really feels like the
19:26
Speaker 1: Cards Against Humanity version of like, here are some words
19:30
Speaker 1: you have, like you have to use in your writing
19:32
Speaker 1: problem or a.
19:32
Speaker 2: Madness almost yeah, yeah, And I guess with the like
19:37
Speaker 2: the benefit of hindsight, I think something that we're seeing
19:39
Speaker 2: with modern video game movies and adaptations and so and
19:42
Speaker 2: so forth, is there's an essence to a thing, right
19:46
Speaker 2: that people are getting Like The Last of Us certainly
19:49
Speaker 2: took some privileges with some of their low and some
19:51
Speaker 2: of their the structuring of that story, but it still
19:54
Speaker 2: had the essence of the characters with the world, whereas
19:58
Speaker 2: I think so are on, especially in Mario's lore and
20:04
Speaker 2: it's placement in culture, there wasn't a lot of the
20:08
Speaker 2: essence of story, if that makes any sense, Like it's
20:12
Speaker 2: a very boiled down is Plumber saves Princess in a
20:17
Speaker 2: castle from lizard, and there's not a lot to do
20:21
Speaker 2: with that in like an hour forty five two hours
20:23
Speaker 2: however long this movie is, but also not enough to
20:27
Speaker 2: gain the essence of that to make it feel like
20:29
Speaker 2: you're watching Mario the way you feel like you're playing Mario,
20:33
Speaker 2: if that makes any sense.
20:35
Speaker 1: No, I agree completely, And I think the issue is
20:37
Speaker 1: kind of like you hit the nail on the head,
20:39
Speaker 1: and I think we'll see this change as we move
20:42
Speaker 1: through the history of this fanti of these movies, because
20:45
Speaker 1: I think the problem with the Mario is the fact
20:47
Speaker 1: that there really isn't like plow even if you look
20:51
Speaker 1: at the more recent games, everyone is just like Bowser
20:55
Speaker 1: shows up or insert villain here shows up, steals a
20:58
Speaker 1: thing mcguffin of the week, and you have to go
21:01
Speaker 1: through several worlds to get a bunch of smaller versions
21:04
Speaker 1: of the thing until you can beat him and get
21:05
Speaker 1: the big thing.
21:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
21:07
Speaker 1: Like that, I just described every Mario game you've ever
21:09
Speaker 1: played or heard of, and like, yeah, there's the rare
21:13
Speaker 1: exception like the Mario RPG or some of the other
21:15
Speaker 1: ones that had a bit more of the story I
21:17
Speaker 1: think Paper Mario is a great example. But even though
21:20
Speaker 1: there's nothing about like if I gave you, like any
21:23
Speaker 1: of the Mario arp or any the paper Mario games,
21:25
Speaker 1: you could just sub out Mario with ex protagonist and
21:29
Speaker 1: ex villain and just drop the Mario theming to it,
21:32
Speaker 1: and you have you have a final fantasy. You have
21:35
Speaker 1: a fire, you have a breath of fire. I'm throwing
21:38
Speaker 1: out of RPGs here I can like there's nothing, there's
21:42
Speaker 1: so little established Mario war Like, yes, there's little bits
21:45
Speaker 1: here and there. We know that Princess Peach is the princess,
21:48
Speaker 1: we know, we know who Daisy is, we know who
21:50
Speaker 1: they are, we know like their relationship with each other,
21:53
Speaker 1: and like who rules what kingdom and who has what powers.
21:56
Speaker 1: But the same way that you can go out to
21:57
Speaker 1: like Chapters or Indigo or your local books or pick
22:00
Speaker 1: up the like thirty eight pound book of like the
22:03
Speaker 1: history of Legend of Zelda, where it's like the original
22:06
Speaker 1: race that built the tri force and then the shadow realm,
22:09
Speaker 1: like there's established lord, there's like what to work with.
22:12
Speaker 1: Mario's would basically be like a zine that some kid printed, woot,
22:16
Speaker 1: just as what he tells this movie.
22:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's an interesting question. Do you think, and I
22:20
Speaker 2: think this movie is a great example of this question,
22:23
Speaker 2: do you think that Mario would benefit from extended or
22:28
Speaker 2: expanded lore or like even a cannon because there will
22:31
Speaker 2: be like YouTube videos that like look into who is
22:33
Speaker 2: la Luigi? What it makes up that, right, is he
22:37
Speaker 2: the anti Luigi? Whereas like, actually speaking of Luigi, like
22:40
Speaker 2: the two things that we've established about Luigi is that
22:44
Speaker 2: he's taller and he's a coward.
22:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much, which again is all we really know
22:49
Speaker 1: about Luigia years forty years of Mario, you know what?
22:53
Speaker 1: And I think you hiss me really cool there on
22:55
Speaker 1: the head. And it's kind of the fact that like,
22:57
Speaker 1: because there's no like real nitty gritty lore there is,
23:02
Speaker 1: They're like, yes, there's always gonna be that YouTube rabbit
23:05
Speaker 1: hole of like some dude, like there was one a
23:07
Speaker 1: while ago. I think it was like a Matt pat
23:10
Speaker 1: with the game theory where he proves that like Rosalina
23:13
Speaker 1: is Luigi's future daughter or some shit.
23:15
Speaker 2: Good lord, and again good it's fun.
23:18
Speaker 1: To theorize it could be true for all we know. Like,
23:21
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna discredit the work the guy does even
23:23
Speaker 1: though it is all very much done with a tongue
23:25
Speaker 1: in cheek of like, yeah, it's a fun theory, but
23:27
Speaker 1: it's just a theory.
23:28
Speaker 2: I mean that theory doesn't sound far off from the
23:31
Speaker 2: things that we just witness in this first Mario movie.
23:33
Speaker 1: It sounds more sane than things we've seen in this
23:36
Speaker 1: movie so far. That's like I Rosalina being the future
23:41
Speaker 1: daughter of Luigi versus Dino Hatton in the Mario lore.
23:47
Speaker 2: Because in my head, I think they're the same.
23:51
Speaker 1: That's where Luigi went back in time and had rose. Anyways,
23:55
Speaker 1: but I think that's what makes the Mario franchise so malleable.
23:58
Speaker 1: And it's kind of the same thing when you look
23:59
Speaker 1: at like, like you know, there's always like I feel like
24:02
Speaker 1: the rumor circulars every few years, like, oh, there's a
24:04
Speaker 1: pac Man movie in the works, and it's like, what
24:06
Speaker 1: are you doing with a pac Man movie? Like, what
24:08
Speaker 1: is pac Man the movie? Yeah, because all we know
24:11
Speaker 1: about pac Man is he gobble ball Sometimes gobble ghost
24:15
Speaker 1: ghosts try to kill pac Man. Pac Man has wife
24:18
Speaker 1: and kid, Like, all, great, you've just described a person
24:23
Speaker 1: who's afraid of ghosts and takes drugs.
24:26
Speaker 2: Hey, that's Luigi. As much as we know about it.
24:30
Speaker 1: Luigi's mentioned is secretly what was supposed to be the
24:32
Speaker 1: pac Man movie. Yeah, I watched that movie.
24:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an interesting one to start off with, really,
24:39
Speaker 2: and truly it really wasn't what I was expecting at all,
24:42
Speaker 2: considering it's infamy within the internet. And I'm I think
24:46
Speaker 2: it's a great one to start off with because she's
24:48
Speaker 2: just so weird and so interesting. Because I like it,
24:53
Speaker 2: but not for the reasons that I'm supposed to like
24:54
Speaker 2: it for. You know, it's it's a fascinating film.
24:58
Speaker 1: It's you know what. Someone while describing this podcast to
25:02
Speaker 1: a few friends and like getting has a hype and
25:04
Speaker 1: conversation going about it because obviously good list of this,
25:07
Speaker 1: I realized, like this movie is right up there, and
25:09
Speaker 1: I don't want to give it like the credit that
25:12
Speaker 1: I'm giving it right now because it sounds like I'm
25:13
Speaker 1: praising it more than I should.
25:14
Speaker 2: Be best movie ever top ten. It's only down here
25:18
Speaker 2: for here game.
25:20
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, given what else we have coming, there's
25:22
Speaker 1: a lot of movies I have seen this in this,
25:24
Speaker 1: like Cannon, that I do enjoy, even if I know
25:26
Speaker 1: they're not great or I enjoy them because they're can't
25:29
Speaker 1: be like this, But this feels like the kind of
25:31
Speaker 1: movie I want to go see, Like I would go
25:34
Speaker 1: see Rocky Horror. I want to see people in bad costumes.
25:38
Speaker 1: I want to sit down. I want to have an
25:39
Speaker 1: MC shouting shit out as we're all watching it. I
25:42
Speaker 1: want to you know, throw mushrooms at the screen whenever
25:45
Speaker 1: the King shows up, Like I want the Rocky Horror
25:48
Speaker 1: experience for this movie.
25:51
Speaker 2: Heck, dude, I totally totally agree with that, Like I.
25:55
Speaker 1: Would show up dresses Bob Hoskin and fishnet stockings.
25:58
Speaker 2: That does E mean have to be like I could
26:01
Speaker 2: do a backwards cap in fishnet stalkings, Yes, oh no, some.
26:06
Speaker 1: Of the other things that kind of like I feel
26:08
Speaker 1: like we're almost like they had to do or like
26:11
Speaker 1: we actually see them do some plumbing like that to
26:13
Speaker 1: me is the biggest philmilderment. When they're like in the
26:16
Speaker 1: building and life for you, well, the fact that they're like, hey,
26:19
Speaker 1: they're plumbers. Shouldn't we make that at least somewhat relevant,
26:23
Speaker 1: like kind of like the the Chekhov's wrench of the
26:25
Speaker 1: movie of like, because they're plumbers, they get this moment,
26:29
Speaker 1: which is I feel like doesn't pay off because we
26:31
Speaker 1: never really see it take effect except for the women
26:33
Speaker 1: are cold for some reason. But like the idea of
26:36
Speaker 1: like if we chill the whole building, they're reptiles, they're
26:39
Speaker 1: cold blooded, they'll be sluggish and slow and like fall asleep,
26:43
Speaker 1: because that's a real thing lizards do. They're cold blooded creatures.
26:46
Speaker 1: So like one just knowing that and then having the
26:50
Speaker 1: plumbing equipment to turn off the heating and the building.
26:53
Speaker 1: I like, it's one of those scenes I had forgotten
26:55
Speaker 1: because again this has been years since I've seen this,
26:57
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shit, that's actually really smart. Yes,
27:03
Speaker 1: maybe you are giving this movie too much. I mean no,
27:07
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right.
27:08
Speaker 2: Like they thought about certain things, which is really fascinating
27:12
Speaker 2: that they thought about certain things. And then some other
27:15
Speaker 2: components of this completely seem like we're written on the
27:18
Speaker 2: fly or on the day. Oh yeah, like as as
27:22
Speaker 2: in a segment You're Gonna have it seems like some
27:24
Speaker 2: people were inebriated. Oh yes, during the process.
27:28
Speaker 1: Before I get to my list of fun facts about
27:30
Speaker 1: the movie, one thing I will say to like hamper
27:32
Speaker 1: My like praise of this is one of the moments
27:34
Speaker 1: in the movie that just like baffled me the most
27:37
Speaker 1: is why does defeating King Koopa magically re evolve the
27:42
Speaker 1: king out of his fungus form. No one else gets
27:45
Speaker 1: changed back or like reverts or anything. Yeah, just the king,
27:48
Speaker 1: Like was it a magic spell?
27:50
Speaker 2: He put on brother.
27:53
Speaker 1: Program? There was like a there was like an automatic program.
27:56
Speaker 1: He's like, just in case I die, I want the
27:58
Speaker 1: king to turn back. So I'm going to change the
28:00
Speaker 1: programming for this one specifically because I can do that.
28:04
Speaker 2: For some reason, they thought about this, Drew, I don't
28:07
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about.
28:08
Speaker 1: No, this this is like the Disney Princess of like
28:11
Speaker 1: you defeated the villain and everyone's back to normal, like
28:14
Speaker 1: all the furniture and beasts house Like it's oh you
28:18
Speaker 1: you you cured the beast, everyone's cured. No, No, this
28:22
Speaker 1: is you defeated Koopa. One specific person he affected, just
28:26
Speaker 1: because they were important, gets to come back because of it.
28:30
Speaker 1: Not to say the re evolved Toad and the other
28:33
Speaker 1: gumbas back to their human esque forms, but like they
28:37
Speaker 1: don't they have to physically go do that. Also. I
28:42
Speaker 1: just need to share because it's one of those moments
28:44
Speaker 1: of like, looking at this movie now so many years later,
28:47
Speaker 1: when they start merging the world, the first thing that
28:50
Speaker 1: happens is the Twin Towers get destroyed.
28:53
Speaker 2: Hey, we can't do it.
28:56
Speaker 1: It's it's just one of those things where it's like
28:59
Speaker 1: a clily a movie from a time well before that
29:02
Speaker 1: was like a faux pa on a movie. Yeah, but
29:05
Speaker 1: I just loved the distinction of like literally it turnes
29:08
Speaker 1: it into Cooper Tower and a destroyed tower, and then
29:11
Speaker 1: they turn a dude into a monkey and laugh and
29:14
Speaker 1: no one is like perturbed by like the towers vanishing
29:18
Speaker 1: and being destroyed, Like, oh no, the Twin Towers lol. Monkey.
29:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have loved Dave. But like they became
29:25
Speaker 2: green tubes. See, that would have been amazing.
29:30
Speaker 1: I would have loved that if like that's what the
29:32
Speaker 1: merging was, was like tubes popping out of the ground
29:34
Speaker 1: and panaglands. Okay, So I do have a list of
29:37
Speaker 1: some fun facts we can discuss about this movie, and
29:39
Speaker 1: I don't know if every movie will have as many
29:41
Speaker 1: as this one did, so kind of the origin of
29:43
Speaker 1: this movie was the fact that Dustin Hoffman tried to
29:46
Speaker 1: buy the rights initially in nineteen ninety where he was
29:49
Speaker 1: gonna star as Mario and he was gonna have Danny
29:52
Speaker 1: DeVito played Luigi, which I think is the thing we
29:54
Speaker 1: were robbed of the most. Like leg was Amo, bless him.
29:57
Speaker 1: Did a great job for what he did. But I
30:00
Speaker 1: think we all know deep down that Danny de Vito
30:02
Speaker 1: should have been Luigi.
30:03
Speaker 2: I think I think it could have worked the other
30:05
Speaker 2: way around too. You know him as Mario as Vito's
30:08
Speaker 2: mariof Hoffman as Luigi.
30:10
Speaker 1: But yeah, we all know that when the time comes,
30:13
Speaker 1: he'll play warrior right Ario, like even the voice acting
30:19
Speaker 1: side when they eventually do the sequel to the more
30:21
Speaker 1: modern CG. Chris Pratt Mario movie, which they like, this
30:25
Speaker 1: movie left a cliffhanger for a sequel. This one never got.
30:28
Speaker 1: I think that one will.
30:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, Buscemi as Wallauigi, please, Oh my god.
30:34
Speaker 1: Didn't he play star Scream in the New Mario too?
30:36
Speaker 1: In the New Mario the New Transformers he did, which
30:39
Speaker 1: is bad to me, is like the greatest casting choice
30:41
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna get the original voice for it. Yeah. Yeah,
30:45
Speaker 1: so this, like I said, the scrip was attempted multiple times.
30:49
Speaker 1: There was like apparently in a point it was gonna
30:52
Speaker 1: be much more of a serious, like road trip coming
30:54
Speaker 1: of age movie that apparently was compared to Rainman in
30:59
Speaker 1: its level of like story and seriousness, and was commonly
31:03
Speaker 1: referred to as drain Man during the writing. I think
31:06
Speaker 1: is a big miss inari opportunity.
31:08
Speaker 2: Big miss. Also that's Hoffmann's influence, right, Like he's like
31:11
Speaker 2: I did this, yeah movie with Tom Cruise, I can
31:14
Speaker 2: do it again, And I forgot that was I never
31:17
Speaker 2: actually saw the original rain Man or the Oh it's
31:19
Speaker 2: good one of those weird like blank spots in my
31:21
Speaker 2: movie watching history. Yeah, it's not as good as this movie.
31:25
Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's crazy.
31:28
Speaker 1: I've heard different, but also this is insane. Apparently one
31:32
Speaker 1: of the next revisions of the script for this movie
31:34
Speaker 1: was almost to do like what Shrek did to Disney,
31:36
Speaker 1: but in this case doing it to a Wizard of Oz,
31:38
Speaker 1: where it was like a not a direct parody of
31:41
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz, but kind of stealing the same trope
31:43
Speaker 1: of like being brought to another world where you're the
31:46
Speaker 1: outsider and like it's an established world, which like you
31:49
Speaker 1: almost can kind of see that. We don't get the
31:52
Speaker 1: journey down the yell Over road as much as we
31:54
Speaker 1: do well like it very much. Is like the Dorsy
31:57
Speaker 1: of Oz.
31:58
Speaker 2: There's bricks in Mario.
32:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, yellow bricks. There we go. It could have been
32:01
Speaker 1: a little yellow brick row. That would have been perfect.
32:03
Speaker 2: I don't hate that idea at all. In fact, I'm
32:05
Speaker 2: quite fascinated by that script idea.
32:07
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well so apparently some of them are available online.
32:10
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which ones are how to find them,
32:11
Speaker 1: but like I've heard rumors that they're like you can
32:13
Speaker 1: read these if you look over to look apparently. Another
32:17
Speaker 1: take on the movie was that this was supposed to
32:19
Speaker 1: act as a spiritual prequel to the Mario franchise, as
32:24
Speaker 1: in this movie is what really happened that inspired the
32:27
Speaker 1: Nintendo Corporation to make the video games?
32:31
Speaker 2: Oh like a like a light Year situation, which exactly.
32:36
Speaker 1: Also, I'm usually so good on my Pixar movies. It's
32:40
Speaker 1: the only one I'm missing I haven't.
32:41
Speaker 2: Seen again, you're not missing out. And two crazy things
32:44
Speaker 2: to say, this movie is better than light Year. H
32:47
Speaker 2: not ironic, not what I said with the rain.
32:49
Speaker 1: Honestly, what I've heard of light Year, I believe that.
32:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's really interesting that that idea has been
32:54
Speaker 2: spun out of like it's not the first time, and
32:58
Speaker 2: it's so convoluted. It says, this is the thing that
33:02
Speaker 2: inspired the people to do a separate thing, not this
33:06
Speaker 2: is the immediate prequel to Mario. Yeah, but rather it's
33:10
Speaker 2: saying that someone at Nintendo watched this movie and then
33:15
Speaker 2: created the Mario universe, or.
33:18
Speaker 1: Or like this is this is the true story of Mario.
33:20
Speaker 1: That like, that is a real story that inspired Nintendo
33:25
Speaker 1: to make the games, and we're just making a movie
33:27
Speaker 1: of that true story. Oh God, like that this whole
33:30
Speaker 1: thing like is in the Lord Mario that we don't
33:32
Speaker 1: know about the games, haven't gotten to it covered yet,
33:35
Speaker 1: and we're now seeing it in film form.
33:37
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if the acronym KISS, which is famously keep
33:40
Speaker 2: it oh yeah stupid, was not invented until two thousand
33:43
Speaker 2: and one.
33:45
Speaker 1: Or like maybe just like a day or two after
33:47
Speaker 1: this movie released, someone was.
33:48
Speaker 2: Like, kiss, Yeah, they're just coked up from the eighties
33:51
Speaker 2: and it carried on to the nineties, you know.
33:53
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of coked up. Actually, yeah, so this movie
33:57
Speaker 1: was actually like right for filming began, like they were
34:01
Speaker 1: getting all the actors out, they were getting ready to
34:03
Speaker 1: start filming, Disney bought the distribution rights for it and
34:08
Speaker 1: then demanded like heavy rewrights to like make it more
34:11
Speaker 1: family friendly. Like I'm not sure what really got removed,
34:15
Speaker 1: but like I get maybe some of the fight scenes
34:17
Speaker 1: or maybe some of the romance or some of the
34:19
Speaker 1: like language or like fighting had to be reduced to
34:23
Speaker 1: make it more like Disney approachable. So apparently when they
34:28
Speaker 1: got to set and they were like, here's the script,
34:29
Speaker 1: and they're like, this isn't what I signed on for.
34:32
Speaker 1: This is drastically different.
34:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they backed out after that, or they still
34:37
Speaker 2: retained the distribute.
34:38
Speaker 1: Everyone was already on contract and was stuck with it.
34:40
Speaker 1: It was just like the rewrights were heavy enough that
34:42
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, this one from being like maybe
34:45
Speaker 1: on par with like Die Hard level of grittiness to like,
34:48
Speaker 1: you know, the parent trap or like Home Alone grittiness.
34:52
Speaker 2: That trivia tells me that student because again Nintendo also
34:56
Speaker 2: didn't have its like hardcore locked on bible of things
35:01
Speaker 2: that you have to retain to. That tells me that
35:04
Speaker 2: corporations were more willing to give freedom, and that might
35:08
Speaker 2: be the reason why we now live in a hellscape
35:10
Speaker 2: where corporations are locked on and things are made by committee,
35:15
Speaker 2: right because they went Remember nineteen eighty three when we
35:18
Speaker 2: let writers have a crack at stuff. This was awful,
35:21
Speaker 2: This was terrible. So now we got to lock up
35:23
Speaker 2: everything and everything has to be test screened and stuff.
35:26
Speaker 2: So I wonder, I wonder if this is like and
35:28
Speaker 2: this can't be the catalyst, but I wonder if things
35:32
Speaker 2: were more lax back then and now we're locked in
35:34
Speaker 2: in a hellscape where things are vetted and controlled and
35:37
Speaker 2: written by committee.
35:38
Speaker 1: Well, I mean even just think about it, Like, when
35:40
Speaker 1: was the like after this movie, when was the next
35:42
Speaker 1: time Nintendo let anybody touch one of its franchises to
35:45
Speaker 1: do something outside of like a game.
35:48
Speaker 2: Literally twenty twenty three with the next Super Mario Brothers movie.
35:50
Speaker 1: It's insane, exactly like we've all heard the rumors of
35:53
Speaker 1: a Zelda movie and we now know that like it
35:55
Speaker 1: might be happening finally as a Netflix series. Correct, there
35:59
Speaker 1: was apparently test footage that has never been released. And
36:02
Speaker 1: I would kill to see a Metroid anime made by
36:05
Speaker 1: the same guys who did Castlevania. M I'm still hoping
36:09
Speaker 1: playing that one day that comes out, because I'd be
36:11
Speaker 1: the best.
36:12
Speaker 2: Thing ever And beyond this podcast.
36:14
Speaker 1: Oh, we will get to it. Yeah. So I do
36:17
Speaker 1: want to bring up an interview from twenty and seven
36:19
Speaker 1: with Hoskins before he passed away. He was asked what
36:22
Speaker 1: he considered the worst choice in his acting career, and
36:24
Speaker 1: his response was super Mario bros. It was a fucking nightmare.
36:28
Speaker 1: The whole experience was a nightmare. It had a husband
36:31
Speaker 1: and wife team directing whose arrogance had been mistaken for
36:34
Speaker 1: talent after so many weeks, their own agent told them
36:37
Speaker 1: to get off the set. Fucking nightmare, fucking idiots. That
36:42
Speaker 1: is the exact quote from Hoskins when talking about this clearly,
36:47
Speaker 1: and my last point to tie in is that apparently
36:50
Speaker 1: fairly early on in production they realized this movie was
36:52
Speaker 1: like a shit fire. Yeah, so Hoskins and Leguasamo got
36:56
Speaker 1: shit faced before every day of filming and drank between takes.
37:01
Speaker 2: This is what I knew. Yeah, And I'll be honest again,
37:03
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think it carries a lot. They're
37:05
Speaker 2: They're wonderful in their exactly and their deliveries. There is
37:09
Speaker 2: one segment of the movie where I was like, I
37:12
Speaker 2: could see it there and it's just John like Wasama
37:14
Speaker 2: going Daisy, Daisy, Daisy, and like, knowing things about film,
37:19
Speaker 2: he probably had to do that like several takes, so
37:23
Speaker 2: many times you'd want to get flastered. You couldn't, you
37:26
Speaker 2: couldn't go through it.
37:27
Speaker 1: I can only imagine the drinking and that had to
37:29
Speaker 1: occur before they shot the dance scene in like the club.
37:33
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, yeah, just like yeah.
37:37
Speaker 1: Put on this crazy disco oudefit and go like awkwardly
37:40
Speaker 1: flirt and hit on and yet hit by Big Bertha,
37:44
Speaker 1: who again, like has been very like vocally stated to
37:47
Speaker 1: be completely a diversity write in. They were like, oh,
37:51
Speaker 1: there's no black people in this movie. Oh put a
37:53
Speaker 1: chick in the disco. Make her And apparently she had
37:56
Speaker 1: a bigger role in the earlier versions of the script.
37:58
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
38:00
Speaker 1: Like the jumpy boots they get, we're supposed to be
38:01
Speaker 1: much more important because the whole like jumping on things.
38:04
Speaker 1: Sure yeah again, who knows if that was a violence
38:07
Speaker 1: removal or just like because I get the effects for that, Like,
38:10
Speaker 1: while it's clearly just like a wire in the sky
38:12
Speaker 1: being cg nowt while they're like, like it looks good,
38:16
Speaker 1: it's a decent practical effect. I like the design of
38:18
Speaker 1: the boots. There's a weird, fun steampunk like you know,
38:23
Speaker 1: quite Mario is steampunk, but it works really well.
38:25
Speaker 2: There's a charm to it, there's a chime to it,
38:27
Speaker 2: and it's and it says like overall that had there
38:30
Speaker 2: been this cohesive idea from the beginning, whether it was Hoffman,
38:36
Speaker 2: ray Man two or whatever, it was right, this could
38:39
Speaker 2: have been something because there is some charm behind it.
38:41
Speaker 2: There is some some good play behind it. But I
38:44
Speaker 2: think the mess of it all is what really creates
38:49
Speaker 2: this myth in the infamy of how bad this movie is.
38:52
Speaker 2: But in and of itself, I think there is some charm.
38:57
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's a good video game. I
39:00
Speaker 2: don't think it's a good movie.
39:01
Speaker 1: There you go, like like I want to compare it
39:04
Speaker 1: to like The Room as like, because I think that's
39:06
Speaker 1: the like the most recent example of a cult hit movie. Yeah,
39:10
Speaker 1: but not just because it's shitty, but it's because there's
39:13
Speaker 1: like this mytho surround it of like this crazy batshit
39:17
Speaker 1: ut job who put it together, and like all of
39:19
Speaker 1: the weird interviews he's given and like everyone who's like
39:22
Speaker 1: talked about being on the movie and how insane it was,
39:25
Speaker 1: like if this were just made and released and everyone
39:27
Speaker 1: will like, that's a bad movie and we never got
39:30
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes, like nonsense we've heard about, or
39:33
Speaker 1: like the legend and myth as you put it, I
39:36
Speaker 1: don't think you would hold up the way it does today,
39:38
Speaker 1: but because you go into it knowing, oh, this is
39:42
Speaker 1: a trailer park fire, but one that you want to watch. Yeah,
39:47
Speaker 1: so I have a question. This is something I'm gonna
39:49
Speaker 1: try to do every episode. I think generally we'll have
39:51
Speaker 1: a pretty good time doing this.
39:52
Speaker 2: Yeah.
39:53
Speaker 1: Again, I think the disadvantage here is we have both
39:55
Speaker 1: seen the next Maria movie many years removed, and while
39:59
Speaker 1: we will I'll eventually get to that. In this version
40:02
Speaker 1: of the movie, with the limitations of ninety ninety three knowledge,
40:06
Speaker 1: what would you have changed in this movie?
40:09
Speaker 2: I think the core of it is to let go
40:12
Speaker 2: of this idea of canon, or let go this idea
40:16
Speaker 2: of fans service, because I think this movie keeping Mario,
40:21
Speaker 2: keeping Luigi, even keeping Daisy or whatever the keys might be.
40:25
Speaker 2: But I think when this movie reaches to try to
40:28
Speaker 2: connect it to the mari universe, i e. The goomba's
40:32
Speaker 2: looking the way they do, or the bullet bills and
40:34
Speaker 2: the fungus and so and so forth. I think that's
40:36
Speaker 2: where it fails. I think you should do that if
40:39
Speaker 2: you understand your property and understand the essence of what
40:43
Speaker 2: makes it fun or what makes a character a character.
40:46
Speaker 2: But otherwise, you know, if you're given a license to
40:51
Speaker 2: do an adaptation, you should service the story first and
40:56
Speaker 2: then let the world building come in later. If that
40:59
Speaker 2: makes any sense, I.
41:00
Speaker 1: Think that's brilliant. I honestly like going into this, I
41:04
Speaker 1: had a bit of a different take, but I think
41:05
Speaker 1: I sure with you a lot harder than I wouldn't
41:07
Speaker 1: my own take.
41:08
Speaker 2: Oh.
41:09
Speaker 1: I think the biggest fault in this movie, the thing
41:11
Speaker 1: I would change if I had to do it over,
41:13
Speaker 1: was is aiming at the kids it was meant for.
41:16
Speaker 1: I think it's again like again knowing what the new
41:19
Speaker 1: one did. I think that's its biggest success is it
41:21
Speaker 1: was very much a kid's film. Yeah, and that is
41:24
Speaker 1: the audience I think you needed to grab with this,
41:26
Speaker 1: and they missed that mark. Yeah, because I can't imagine
41:29
Speaker 1: any child in the early nineties. And I think I'm
41:33
Speaker 1: a good example of this is like this was the
41:35
Speaker 1: age where like I was super excited to see a
41:37
Speaker 1: Mario movie, and at the time was very baffled confused
41:41
Speaker 1: and like I wouldn't say upset or confused by it
41:43
Speaker 1: like per se, but like I was like, I don't
41:45
Speaker 1: get this, Like what am I missing? Like this doesn't
41:48
Speaker 1: like I had a good time because it was an
41:49
Speaker 1: action movie and it was silly and funny, and I like,
41:52
Speaker 1: you know, like the goop was dancing in the elevator.
41:54
Speaker 1: I like the I like Yoshi as a kid, but
41:57
Speaker 1: like I was like, this isn't what I wanted. This
41:59
Speaker 1: is what I expected for sure, And I think had
42:02
Speaker 1: it been done with more of the like kid friendly thing,
42:06
Speaker 1: almost like try it, Like as much as I love
42:09
Speaker 1: it for what it is, now, scale back the gritty,
42:13
Speaker 1: make it more. Even if it was like the dinos
42:15
Speaker 1: invading Earth so you didn't have to worry about their
42:17
Speaker 1: version of the world and just like talk about it
42:19
Speaker 1: in reference and everything took place in like New York,
42:22
Speaker 1: I think would have been a better take.
42:24
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think our constructive criticism is mutually exclusive either.
42:28
Speaker 2: I think if you could combine those two ideas into
42:30
Speaker 2: the movie, it would have been better. So that being said,
42:33
Speaker 2: now that we fixed the movie, Yeah, how would you
42:36
Speaker 2: say and I want to ask these two questions moving
42:39
Speaker 2: forward because I think it'd be really interesting to look
42:41
Speaker 2: at the history video game movies this way. One, did
42:44
Speaker 2: you like the movie? Give me a rating scale? But
42:47
Speaker 2: then also, do you think the movie's a good Like
42:51
Speaker 2: if you were like, all right, someone's been living on
42:53
Speaker 2: in the rocks. They have no idea what Mario Brothers is.
42:56
Speaker 2: Do you think this is a good indication to be like,
42:58
Speaker 2: just watch this, you'll get it. You'll get the.
43:04
Speaker 1: I think give it to me.
43:07
Speaker 2: And because I played Super Mario Odyssey, give it to
43:09
Speaker 2: me in moons Moons?
43:11
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm going to give this a full seven
43:15
Speaker 1: out of ten moons a standalone film, because I think
43:19
Speaker 1: this is a fun movie. It's got a good quality.
43:22
Speaker 1: This is like the perfect like hey, I want to
43:24
Speaker 1: pop a gummy or like, oh baby, do shrooms and
43:28
Speaker 1: watch this with a bunch of friends and like turn
43:31
Speaker 1: into a drinking game, turned into an event party.
43:34
Speaker 2: Wow, it is a fun, silly nons Mario party.
43:38
Speaker 1: Oh Mari, how did I miss that one?
43:42
Speaker 2: A Mario party? Ten?
43:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then your second question, if we're going to
43:47
Speaker 1: continue with the Moons, how does it do as a
43:50
Speaker 1: piece of Mario, like translating video game to a movie. Yeah,
43:54
Speaker 1: I mean one out of ten purely because who did
43:58
Speaker 1: the names? Basically, yeah, zero is like there's no connection
44:02
Speaker 1: one is they at least threw in some buzzwords?
44:05
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I love that. I love that. I think
44:08
Speaker 2: i'd have to agree and.
44:10
Speaker 1: You same scale. Again. I feel like I feel we're
44:13
Speaker 1: gonna probably have a lot of these similar votes.
44:14
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, I mean, you know, I'll just like
44:18
Speaker 2: baistically disagree with you. I think I'm gonna give it
44:21
Speaker 2: like six hundred and sixty seven moons out of eight
44:23
Speaker 2: hundred from the first question, and then I'll give it.
44:27
Speaker 2: I'll give it a banana peal or a what's that squid?
44:30
Speaker 2: You know when you play Mario Kart and you get inked?
44:33
Speaker 2: Oh the blooper, thank you for knowing that enemy type.
44:37
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I'll give it a blooper for.
44:40
Speaker 1: Honestly, I think blooper is the most definitive description of
44:43
Speaker 1: this movie I've ever heard. Oh the blooper of movies.
44:47
Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome, and that's our that's our number one, that's
44:49
Speaker 2: our starting off.
44:50
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, But yeah, like I think we
44:53
Speaker 1: both agree, Like if you're listening to this podcast and
44:55
Speaker 1: you've never seen this movie, whether because you've heard it
44:58
Speaker 1: was shit or just like like a lot of people
45:01
Speaker 1: didn't know it was a movie. Honestly, invite a friend
45:06
Speaker 1: or two over, pop, open a bottle of wine or something.
45:08
Speaker 1: Make a drinking game out of like every time they
45:10
Speaker 1: reference something like stupidly tied to the series. Somehow you
45:15
Speaker 1: won't get too drunk, but you'll have a good time.
45:31
Speaker 1: Welcome to the wrong seats, you fools.
45:37
Speaker 4: Your usual it is, But because you guys are on
45:40
Speaker 4: opposite sides, I suddenly don't know where to be in.
45:42
Speaker 1: My own seat. This it's like in Marrio Kart. You're
45:48
Speaker 1: in the mirror mode of the track.
45:52
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we should be yeah, oh if we're in
45:58
Speaker 2: this doesn't have the stand recording. But if we were,
46:00
Speaker 2: if we were a Mario party right now, Who's who's
46:02
Speaker 2: your avatars? Who's your icons? You're choosing?
46:06
Speaker 5: Look, I love Yoshi?
46:08
Speaker 2: You do love Yoshi? Yeah?
46:10
Speaker 1: What color?
46:12
Speaker 5: That's a very good question.
46:13
Speaker 2: That's racist.
46:16
Speaker 1: It's racist. If he doesn't pick the black yard picks
46:18
Speaker 1: black Yoshi. It's fine.
46:19
Speaker 2: I don't even though there was a black Yoshi. So
46:21
Speaker 2: I'm the real racist. I didn't know there was one.
46:24
Speaker 5: In that case.
46:25
Speaker 1: I'm picking what Mike is a bit low Audre sounds fine,
46:31
Speaker 1: but you're a bit low.
46:32
Speaker 5: Oh yep, I had on. Yeah there.
46:36
Speaker 1: You said. Now you sound like Matt. I do want
46:39
Speaker 1: to finish that round table though. So who's everyone's character
46:41
Speaker 1: in Mary and Maria Carter Mario Party. So we have
46:43
Speaker 1: a Yoshi.
46:45
Speaker 5: Probably Wall.
46:48
Speaker 2: That as villainI as Yeah, I'm usually one of the animals.
46:54
Speaker 2: I'm either Yoshi or.
46:55
Speaker 1: D k Nice. Oh yeah, yeah, when available. I do
46:59
Speaker 1: like Burdo, but in the more recent games, I'll take
47:02
Speaker 1: any of the Koplings. I love those guys. Oh yeah,
47:06
Speaker 1: specifically go for Morton with the glasses. He just sings.
47:11
Speaker 3: The guy.
47:12
Speaker 2: So now that we chose our avatars, I think we
47:14
Speaker 2: can play a game.
47:16
Speaker 1: There we go, We're giving it. That's wow, we secretly
47:20
Speaker 1: loaded you into a game without you realizing it. So
47:24
Speaker 1: this this game I have called Mushroom Kingdom or Mushroom
47:28
Speaker 1: Trip it is. It is a true fall style game
47:32
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna give you, We're gonna take turns, giving
47:34
Speaker 1: you scenes from the movie that you have neither of
47:37
Speaker 1: you have seen. As you stated, previously, and you will
47:40
Speaker 1: have to tell us whether you think this scene actually
47:42
Speaker 1: does take place in the movie or was it something
47:44
Speaker 1: I thought up on a mushroom trip.
47:47
Speaker 5: Fantastic, Yeah, this is excellent.
47:50
Speaker 1: I will take the first one. Luigi evades some enemy
47:53
Speaker 1: soldiers by making them dance to elevator music. Somehow none
47:57
Speaker 1: of these devolved goons noticed the mustachio man swinging their
48:01
Speaker 1: hips from side to side to lull them into a dance. Again,
48:05
Speaker 1: does that happen in this movie?
48:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, already we're off to a wild stars. Yes, it
48:11
Speaker 5: does sound like sort of classic. I mean, I don't
48:14
Speaker 5: even know what decad this movie was made, so, but
48:17
Speaker 5: it sounds like that, like late eighties, early nineties, kind
48:19
Speaker 5: of like high jinks.
48:22
Speaker 2: You've nailed it. Nineteen ninety three is when this ninety three?
48:26
Speaker 5: We'll just make them dance.
48:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, the rhythm of our hips will lull them into dancing.
48:33
Speaker 5: But you say, the soldiers, soldiers.
48:36
Speaker 1: These these are these are soldiers in an elevator.
48:39
Speaker 5: I know so little about this. Are we working as
48:45
Speaker 5: a as a.
48:45
Speaker 1: Ten team or I'm letting you you can both. You
48:47
Speaker 1: can both give your own answers. You can pick the
48:49
Speaker 1: same thing. If you want, but you know there will.
48:50
Speaker 5: Be okay, okay, Well, i'm going to say this happened.
48:55
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it did not. I'm gonna say you're
48:57
Speaker 4: coming in hot with something wild.
49:00
Speaker 1: Well, I will reveal that the first point we'll go to, Matt,
49:03
Speaker 1: this does absolutely happen. Yes, Dunes or, as the movie
49:07
Speaker 1: calls goombas, they're just giant dudes and trench coats with
49:09
Speaker 1: little tiny dino heads and Walder in the elevator. He
49:12
Speaker 1: just crouches behind him and starts swaying their hips to
49:15
Speaker 1: the elevator music. Yeah, they all start dancing and they
49:17
Speaker 1: can escape.
49:19
Speaker 5: Because why not?
49:20
Speaker 2: Yea, why not?
49:23
Speaker 1: You know, just like in the games when you make
49:25
Speaker 1: the goombas that are big lizard men dance.
49:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can get away with anything.
49:31
Speaker 2: I literally have a note in my notes that says,
49:34
Speaker 2: elevator scene kind of funny goombas.
49:36
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's not the most endearing moment for
49:40
Speaker 1: those groombas.
49:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. For your second question, the character Big Bertha,
49:45
Speaker 2: in a bizarre remnant of a previous script, steals Mario
49:48
Speaker 2: and Luigi's cart and they must dance battle her to
49:51
Speaker 2: win it back.
49:52
Speaker 5: Oh. Interesting, big big Bertha. I don't don't remember that
49:56
Speaker 5: character from the Yeah, the old lineup that that's what
50:00
Speaker 5: I call big.
50:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, her snoot, just her snoots, big berth.
50:08
Speaker 5: Oh you're rocking a big buffa.
50:10
Speaker 1: How do you think she.
50:11
Speaker 2: Got that diamond on her ring on her finger? Oh? God,
50:14
Speaker 2: she's got she's got a ring on her finger. In
50:15
Speaker 2: Mario Party, I.
50:17
Speaker 4: Feel like I'm gonna I'm gonna say this is real.
50:20
Speaker 4: My understanding of what could have happened in this film
50:24
Speaker 4: was shattered so early.
50:28
Speaker 1: I think you're on the right track. A. Yeah, you're
50:30
Speaker 1: you're you're understanding this movie shattered from the moment it
50:33
Speaker 1: was a movie.
50:36
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna I'm gonna say this is not real. Uh,
50:40
Speaker 5: just because I'll just said the opposite.
50:42
Speaker 2: I love this gaming. We should do this a gate leapers.
50:45
Speaker 2: So that's another point for matt uh and I have here.
50:49
Speaker 2: She is a real character. In the movie, Mario seduce
50:53
Speaker 2: battles her.
50:54
Speaker 4: He just.
50:56
Speaker 2: Rolls that seduction role.
50:58
Speaker 1: We get a really weird seduction thing. She hits him,
51:01
Speaker 1: and then he compliments her hitting him and says, do
51:03
Speaker 1: it again, and then she's like I'm into you now.
51:06
Speaker 5: Oho, all right, kinky.
51:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, just another member of the BDSM community. We're finding
51:12
Speaker 4: so many of these, that's incredible.
51:14
Speaker 1: Yep, BDSM Mario, he stands for Burdo.
51:22
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm absolutely ready for the third.
51:27
Speaker 1: So, Daisy's father is a massive amount of goop covering
51:31
Speaker 1: every inch of dinohattan, which is the word this movie
51:33
Speaker 1: takes place. Despite this fact, Luigi tries to shake his
51:36
Speaker 1: hand as he is clearly crushing on his daughter Daisy. Okay, goop,
51:42
Speaker 1: Daisy's father, giant pile of goop. Luigi tries to shake
51:45
Speaker 1: his hand as in like Gwyneth's toxic mess as toxic
51:50
Speaker 1: but actual, Okay, some sort of fungal, gluttonous mass.
51:57
Speaker 4: You know, I've leaned into saying that it's true and false.
52:07
Speaker 4: If I just let's say false, because I don't want
52:11
Speaker 4: it to be true.
52:14
Speaker 1: The power of belief.
52:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm also going to say false for this one.
52:18
Speaker 5: I'm going to agree with Aldra. I think this could
52:21
Speaker 5: It sounds like high Jinks from the first one, but
52:22
Speaker 5: possibly meda Hi jinks.
52:25
Speaker 1: Well, I do love your commitment to each other and
52:27
Speaker 1: your answers even when they're wrong. They the king of
52:32
Speaker 1: this kingdom before Cooper took over, got turned into a
52:35
Speaker 1: giant fungal mass, and despite being a literal inaminate pile
52:39
Speaker 1: of goo, Luigi is like, nice to meet you, I
52:41
Speaker 1: love your daughter.
52:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what did they not think to just
52:45
Speaker 5: make a movie where they sort of jump over a
52:47
Speaker 5: few blocks and that.
52:49
Speaker 1: We needed as Jason I described a what virtual predecessor
52:54
Speaker 1: to the clickers from uh.
52:56
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, gosh, it truly is that?
52:59
Speaker 4: Also, I would like we didn't call it a goopa, Like,
53:02
Speaker 4: what what is it? Missed opportunity with these filmmakers.
53:07
Speaker 1: I think it's referred to as a pile of snot
53:10
Speaker 1: at some point in the movie. But he's essentially just
53:14
Speaker 1: like a massive, a massive web of fungus that takes
53:18
Speaker 1: over the city.
53:19
Speaker 2: Okay, wild it's good stuff, you know, like in the games.
53:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like the games.
53:26
Speaker 2: Now let's go into the fourth question here. The movie
53:29
Speaker 2: features Yoshi for maybe twelve seconds of screen time, but
53:33
Speaker 2: devoted nine puppeteers to maneuver. Said Yoshi, Okay, he was
53:38
Speaker 2: going to be grogu nine is for what twelve seconds
53:45
Speaker 2: of yeah screen, you tell me how.
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Speaker 5: Big the Yoshi? Good question?
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Speaker 1: I want to say, like the size you'd expect a
53:52
Speaker 1: Yoshi would be arbitrary. I don't know, like medium, medium
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Speaker 1: to small dog.
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Speaker 5: Okay, we get Bananafa scale on the Yoshi. Okay, No,
54:07
Speaker 5: not that genuinely helps. Okay, God, I'm gonna say false.
54:13
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say that they didn't get nine is to
54:16
Speaker 5: I'm also gonna say false, just in case.
54:20
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with my guns. I'm gonna
54:22
Speaker 4: say false. There is a thing where they're idiots and
54:24
Speaker 4: they needed nine people to do this when it didn't
54:27
Speaker 4: take nine people to do this, which is so reasonable
54:31
Speaker 4: for what I'm learning about this film that they could
54:34
Speaker 4: have just been dumb and not known how to do
54:36
Speaker 4: it with two people. But I'm gonna I'm gonna give
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Speaker 4: him a little bit more credit.
54:40
Speaker 2: I'd love for you guys to watch this movie because
54:42
Speaker 2: it's true. It's absolutely true, and it's not It doesn't do.
54:47
Speaker 1: Much literally like it's just it's virtually a background character
54:52
Speaker 1: for most of the scenes. I think it like bites
54:54
Speaker 1: a lady off camera once and then gets stabbed.
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Speaker 5: They were like, we need nine puppets is to be
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Speaker 5: able to do this.
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Speaker 1: It was like a super complex puppet.
55:04
Speaker 5: Oh wow, wild it's like baby Yoda.
55:07
Speaker 4: You'd be like, mm you, you would need a ton
55:09
Speaker 4: of people to run this like this is incredible.
55:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again this is ninety three. This is like
55:15
Speaker 1: early puppet hearing man.
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Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome for the puppets. Heers,
55:20
Speaker 2: terrible for wherever it was in charge of the budget
55:22
Speaker 2: of this movie.
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Speaker 1: And again like looking back, like if and when you
55:25
Speaker 1: do decide to like it gets fucked up and watch
55:28
Speaker 1: this movie one day. Yeah, an amazing puppet like honestly
55:31
Speaker 1: probably one of like the starring moments of the movies
55:33
Speaker 1: that it existed as so well put together. Oh wow,
55:36
Speaker 1: despite being ultimately useless. Yeah. I number five, the Mayor
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Speaker 1: of New York is turned into a monkey, simple as that. Yes, okay, god,
55:46
Speaker 1: monkey man, I like this. I'm just no further analysis.
55:50
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is true. I want it to be true. Therefore, Yeah,
55:55
Speaker 1: I was.
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Speaker 4: Going the same place, absolutely the same place.
55:59
Speaker 3: It.
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Speaker 4: If the Mayor of New York has to be a monkey,
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Speaker 4: that explains Rudy Giuliani. Yeah, just a nonsense man. It
56:11
Speaker 4: explains a lot of things. If he was turned into
56:14
Speaker 4: a monkey, well.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, there will be no points for either of you
56:17
Speaker 1: once again. Well, yes, someone does get turned into a monkey.
56:21
Speaker 1: It's some minor antagonist from the first eight minutes of
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Speaker 1: the film that we've completely forgotten about because he's completely irrelevant,
56:27
Speaker 1: but turning him into a monkey was important for some reason.
56:31
Speaker 5: Okay, is the mayor of New York in this feature?
56:35
Speaker 1: Nope? Just some evil tykoo who wants to build a
56:38
Speaker 1: building in that's what.
56:40
Speaker 2: No fossil, that is what it is. Okay, all right,
56:44
Speaker 2: now for your sixth question, King Koopa, who is human
56:47
Speaker 2: like a dino sapien like their dinosaurs who turned into humans,
56:52
Speaker 2: evolved into his true form and goes on a city
56:54
Speaker 2: wrecking rampage before being defeated.
56:57
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, big giant.
57:00
Speaker 2: Is it man like a power up situation?
57:02
Speaker 1: Yeah?
57:02
Speaker 5: It goes on a sort of Godzilla city destroying events.
57:06
Speaker 2: Side No, King Cooper is supposed to be Bowser. Why
57:08
Speaker 2: didn't go of Bowser? Not sure?
57:10
Speaker 5: What did they not?
57:12
Speaker 1: The name they had? All right?
57:15
Speaker 2: They hired Browser like they had him walked in.
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Speaker 4: What insane? I want this to be true. I'm gonna
57:24
Speaker 4: wish it into existence.
57:26
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it's not true. I'm gonna say this
57:28
Speaker 5: didn't happen. Yeah, Matt's got it right there.
57:31
Speaker 2: It didn't. I de evolved into a t rex then
57:36
Speaker 2: into oh a goop as.
57:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, they literally show him as a t rex for
57:43
Speaker 1: like like a second of shitty CG before he just
57:46
Speaker 1: bursts into goop.
57:48
Speaker 5: Oh wow, so like dinosaur person into t rex into goop.
57:53
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the evolution of Man, I'm gonna make you
57:58
Speaker 4: answer first next time. I can do that, because it
58:01
Speaker 4: seems like every time I'll I'll do an answer and
58:04
Speaker 4: then you're like, other way.
58:06
Speaker 5: Look, I got a reputation. God, I'm the game's monster.
58:10
Speaker 5: I got to win this one. This post one.
58:12
Speaker 2: That's how Mario Party works. By the way, you could
58:13
Speaker 2: just be like, no, I'm not going you go.
58:17
Speaker 1: This is this is the seventh and final question and
58:19
Speaker 1: after this there'll be some bullshit points hands it out
58:21
Speaker 1: for I don't know the most times you use the
58:25
Speaker 1: stickers for some reason while playing this game. That's mad.
58:29
Speaker 2: He's toxic as hell during Mario Party.
58:31
Speaker 1: Oh god, what I played with my friends. And the
58:33
Speaker 1: newer one has like you can do emotes as you're playing. Yeah,
58:36
Speaker 1: and there's occasionally a star for most emotes. We're all
58:39
Speaker 1: just spamming the ems.
58:42
Speaker 2: Up. Dude. I didn't know there was a star for that.
58:43
Speaker 2: That changes way, dude.
58:46
Speaker 5: That's why I do.
58:49
Speaker 1: See Your final question is Mario escapes with his girlfriend
58:53
Speaker 1: who is not Peach, Daisy or Pauline, is just some
58:56
Speaker 1: other Brooklyn chick and a bunch of other kidnapped women
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Speaker 1: on a ice mattress slide.
59:03
Speaker 5: Okay, joy, I think I know what.
59:06
Speaker 2: I think.
59:07
Speaker 4: I think I know this, but I want you to
59:08
Speaker 4: answer first.
59:09
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna say it's it's true because they also
59:14
Speaker 5: have not included other things from Mario, so why would
59:17
Speaker 5: they include this canonical haream of women?
59:23
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say true because I think I've seen
59:25
Speaker 4: a screenshot of something that looks insane and it has
59:29
Speaker 4: many of these elements.
59:30
Speaker 1: So you're both going with true, and you are both
59:33
Speaker 1: getting a point. Yes, So they freeze a building to
59:38
Speaker 1: what I assume was to like deal with the dinosaurs
59:40
Speaker 1: being cold blooded. Never comes up, but they then get
59:43
Speaker 1: an ice slide to escape on because ice slides are cool,
59:47
Speaker 1: and yeah, weirdly happened later on in Mario sixty four,
59:50
Speaker 1: so it like predicted something. Okay, giant, No giant penguin.
59:58
Speaker 5: I'm sorry penguins.
1:00:00
Speaker 1: Penguins.
1:00:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a shame. Always have giant peng wings.
1:00:04
Speaker 1: Always need giant peng wings. So we have reached the
1:00:07
Speaker 1: end of our first ever episode and first ever game.
1:00:09
Speaker 1: We do have a final score with your with your
1:00:13
Speaker 1: point yes, and Matt the Games Matter will retain his
1:00:16
Speaker 1: title with a nice four points yes as the first
1:00:20
Speaker 1: winner of press playing in the game.
1:00:22
Speaker 5: Thank you. I'm I'm expecting a trophy.
1:00:26
Speaker 1: I will. I will get that figured out for you.
1:00:30
Speaker 1: And I've decided just now on a whim. As we
1:00:33
Speaker 1: are ending this episode, I have a final question for
1:00:36
Speaker 1: our guests. Will you watch this movie?
1:00:39
Speaker 2: Oh?
1:00:39
Speaker 5: That's a very good question. It certainly seems like from
1:00:43
Speaker 5: the questions and the apt name of the round that
1:00:48
Speaker 5: I should probably consume some mushrooms or edibles or something
1:00:52
Speaker 5: and watch this movie because it sounds very psychedelic.
1:00:55
Speaker 1: I think if I ever tried shrooms for the first time,
1:00:57
Speaker 1: I wanted to be with you guys and this movie.
1:00:59
Speaker 2: Okay, that'd be awesome. Also, that answers the question.
1:01:04
Speaker 1: I know what we're doing in a few months.
1:01:08
Speaker 4: I think I will watch highlights unless we do it,
1:01:12
Speaker 4: unless we unless we watched it together.
1:01:14
Speaker 5: I would watch a highlight reel.
1:01:18
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see, we'll see them getting this planned and
1:01:20
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Before we come to a close, Jason,
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Speaker 1: anything you want to address our audience with no, uh.
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Speaker 2: No, I've done.
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