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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland. Hi. Everyone,
- 0:09Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about
- 0:13Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they leave us. My
- 0:17Speaker 1: guest today burst into the realities iitgeist. Back in two
- 0:21Speaker 1: thousand and four, Okay, that's twenty one years ago, you
- 0:24Speaker 1: guys on the massive MTV hit show Laguna Beach and
- 0:29Speaker 1: then later on its follow up series The Hills. However,
- 0:33Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, she launched her own women's wellness and
- 0:37Speaker 1: personal care brand, Love Wellness, that you can find all
- 0:42Speaker 1: over shelves everywhere, retailers everywhere. It's even on QVC. So
- 0:48Speaker 1: I cannot wait to speak to her. Please welcome low
- 0:50Speaker 1: Bosworth to the podcast. Hi, I'm so excited to talk
- 0:54Speaker 1: to you. Before we get into some of the choices
- 0:59Speaker 1: that you've made in your life, I want to know,
- 1:02Speaker 1: before The Hills, before Laguna Beach, what did you want
- 1:06Speaker 1: to be when you were growing up, when you were
- 1:08Speaker 1: a little girl.
- 1:10Speaker 2: So I didn't really know. Yeah.
- 1:15Speaker 1: No, Some people like dream of some one certain thing
- 1:19Speaker 1: and then they somehow fulfill that later in life. But
- 1:22Speaker 1: I was I never had that either.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I feel like I've always had a
- 1:28Speaker 3: lot of hobbies and interests, and a lot of my
- 1:31Speaker 3: interests have been based in science, and probably would have
- 1:37Speaker 3: done something in the medical field or with biology had
- 1:41Speaker 3: I not my company. But I think the cool thing
- 1:43Speaker 3: about what I do now is that, you know, wellness
- 1:46Speaker 3: is adjacent to that, and I have the opportunity to
- 1:50Speaker 3: work with our incredible medical advisory board and real experts
- 1:53Speaker 3: in this space, and so I get to sort of.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Like dabble dabble a little bit, do you know what
- 2:01Speaker 2: I mean?
- 2:02Speaker 1: Absolutely, action is really.
- 2:06Speaker 3: What I get really excited about. Understanding why behind it all.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Well, that's I mean, that's very interesting. I can understand
- 2:13Speaker 1: why you would love that. That's something I really actually
- 2:18Speaker 1: do admire about you is that you chose to pivot
- 2:21Speaker 1: from your life in LA, your life in reality TV,
- 2:24Speaker 1: to the wellness space, specifically vaginal gut and hormonal health.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Not exactly considered sexy.
- 2:32Speaker 2: But wow, especially not in twenty sixteen.
- 2:36Speaker 1: And exactly Yeah, you are like really one of the
- 2:39Speaker 1: first women out there talking about vaginas and vaginal health. Yeah,
- 2:44Speaker 1: and you know today things are much different, thank goodness,
- 2:48Speaker 1: but we can always use a voice like yours out there.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Does that leap into new territory A hard decision to
- 2:54Speaker 1: make or did it just happen naturally?
- 2:57Speaker 3: You know, Starting my company is really an interesting journey.
- 3:02Speaker 3: So the Hills ended in twenty ten. I moved to
- 3:05Speaker 3: the city in twenty twelve and I was thinking about entertainment.
- 3:11Speaker 3: One of my passions is cooking, and I went to
- 3:15Speaker 3: the French Culinary Institute.
- 3:17Speaker 4: I saw that first moved to New York, and I
- 3:20Speaker 4: was creating a lot of food and cooking content at
- 3:23Speaker 4: the time, and throughout that journey.
- 3:28Speaker 3: I started to become more interested in nutrition. My program
- 3:31Speaker 3: was classic French plus farm to table and we spent
- 3:35Speaker 3: time with Dan Barber, you know, up at Blue Hill
- 3:38Speaker 3: and like really got hands on.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Which was incredibly exciting.
- 3:42Speaker 3: But I started to learn about the difference in food
- 3:46Speaker 3: quality based on where it's grown, how it's grown, and
- 3:50Speaker 3: that you know, different quality of food has different nutrients
- 3:54Speaker 3: in that food. And I started to feel unwell in
- 4:00Speaker 3: that period of time.
- 4:02Speaker 2: I started to.
- 4:02Speaker 3: Get anxious, depressed, got health issues, intimate health issues, you know,
- 4:07Speaker 3: everything that the brand focuses on, you know, helping women
- 4:10Speaker 3: find balance in today.
- 4:12Speaker 2: And I started to go to the doctor over and
- 4:14Speaker 2: over and over again.
- 4:15Speaker 3: If anything, I love to solve problems, any kind a problem,
- 4:19Speaker 3: big or small. And I started to ask why, Like
- 4:23Speaker 3: why is it that the products at the drug store
- 4:25Speaker 3: don't work for me? Why is this ingredient list so
- 4:29Speaker 3: confusing and then horrific when I go to google it?
- 4:33Speaker 3: Why have none of the products that have been sold
- 4:35Speaker 3: to me for years been developed, you know, with scientific
- 4:40Speaker 3: backing or based on actual research of women's bodies. Why
- 4:43Speaker 3: were they developed decades ago and they've just been sitting
- 4:46Speaker 3: on the shelf. And so ultimately I discovered, after eighteen
- 4:51Speaker 3: months of self advocacy, going to different doctors, finally my
- 4:56Speaker 3: GP was like, Okay, I'll run a blood panel.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Eighteen on.
- 5:01Speaker 1: That's so ridiculous to me. It's so frustrating because if
- 5:05Speaker 1: I were a doctor, if I didn't just play one
- 5:07Speaker 1: on TV, which I never actually have, I would that
- 5:11Speaker 1: be the first thing I would want to know.
- 5:12Speaker 2: That'd be the first.
- 5:14Speaker 3: Thing, right, So, eighteen months of set back because they've
- 5:16Speaker 3: finally got to me to a blood panel, and it
- 5:20Speaker 3: was revealed to me that I was dealing with some
- 5:21Speaker 3: very significant fviting deficiencies. And I think back then this
- 5:27Speaker 3: was twenty fifteen you're like, vitamin deficiencies in America what
- 5:32Speaker 3: And now it much has revealed itself, you know, on
- 5:36Speaker 3: why our health is in a state that it's in.
- 5:38Speaker 3: But back then it was still very.
- 5:41Speaker 2: New to be talking about these things.
- 5:44Speaker 3: And for me, I at least had a starting point
- 5:48Speaker 3: of why I was unwell. Vitamin deficiencies can come from
- 5:53Speaker 3: gut health issues. If you have got health issue, can
- 5:56Speaker 3: be harder to absorb nutrients from food, and vitamin deficion
- 6:00Speaker 3: these can cause some of the things I talked about,
- 6:02Speaker 3: in addition to gut health, kind of being the master
- 6:05Speaker 3: microbiome and really affecting your mental health, vaginal health, et cetera.
- 6:10Speaker 2: And like I said, I at least.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Had a starting point and I was able to kind
- 6:16Speaker 3: of create my thesis behind love wellness at that point
- 6:21Speaker 3: in time, that ingredients really matter whether they go in
- 6:27Speaker 3: your body or on your body. And from there I
- 6:31Speaker 3: launched a company and yeah, I started talking about vaginal
- 6:33Speaker 3: health on Instagram, which like blew people.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Minds in twenty sixteen. You should think a friend, it
- 6:38Speaker 2: was wild, Oh.
- 6:40Speaker 1: My god, it's so true. I even saw one of
- 6:42Speaker 1: your old castmates, I think Spencer is his name. He
- 6:46Speaker 1: was like saying things like why am I learning about
- 6:50Speaker 1: her problems? It was so ridiculous, but you handled that
- 6:56Speaker 1: so beautifully. You really shut him down, and I loved it.
- 7:00Speaker 3: You know, I think my experience on reality TV, probably
- 7:05Speaker 3: just like your experience on television, has given you pretty
- 7:08Speaker 3: thick skin. And being in the media and public guide
- 7:11Speaker 3: to a certain degree. Since you know, I'm eighteen years old,
- 7:15Speaker 3: you learn a lot about how to handle confrontation and
- 7:18Speaker 3: how to manage yourself in a situation like that. And
- 7:23Speaker 3: it could have gone like a very different way. But
- 7:25Speaker 3: the reality is, like, brand awareness is brand awareness, and
- 7:29Speaker 3: I realized that some of our brand content is going
- 7:32Speaker 3: to land in the eyeballs, like land in front of
- 7:35Speaker 3: the eyeballs of the wrong audience, people who are not
- 7:38Speaker 3: our consumer, because that's just how the Internet works.
- 7:41Speaker 2: And that's okay, you know what I mean.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Eyeballs are eyeballs as long as I'm concerned.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Eyeballs are eyeballs, and it's it's okay, it's not a
- 7:50Speaker 3: big deal. Plenty of people have made fun of me,
- 7:53Speaker 3: and the reality is, at this point in time, like
- 7:57Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, look at how much success.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Yeah, the women that we serve are the people that matter.
- 8:05Speaker 3: So everyone has problems, whether they talk about them or not,
- 8:08Speaker 3: and you know, if we can help you, then that's fantastic.
- 8:12Speaker 3: And that was really the point of what we do, right.
- 8:15Speaker 3: I think that we feel that we've really.
- 8:18Speaker 2: Changed the conversation around women's health since I started talking
- 8:21Speaker 2: about different health issues, you know, almost a decade ago.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Now, almost a decade ago. Can you believe that?
- 8:28Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy.
- 8:32Speaker 3: My life was so different almost ten years ago. It
- 8:35Speaker 3: was so different.
- 8:37Speaker 1: I mean, I can imagine what a journey though in
- 8:41Speaker 1: the last ten years you have taken, and yeah, a successful, independent,
- 8:47Speaker 1: self motivated trajectory. I love it. It's so inspiring. And
- 8:53Speaker 1: when you were, like in twenty sixteen when you said
- 8:56Speaker 1: you starting the brand love Wellness, I mean, how many
- 9:00Speaker 1: times did you probably try to tell people about this
- 9:04Speaker 1: idea and they were like, hello, vaginal health. Really?
- 9:10Speaker 2: You know, it was interesting. I can be pretty.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Like single minded when it comes to something, and I
- 9:22Speaker 3: felt really confident about my mission. And when I started
- 9:27Speaker 3: the business, I always I was also paving the way
- 9:33Speaker 3: for the next chapter of my life. And if this
- 9:38Speaker 3: business idea hadn't worked, I think it probably would have
- 9:42Speaker 3: continued down the road in consumer you know, focused on
- 9:47Speaker 3: you know, beauty, wellness, things that I really care about
- 9:50Speaker 3: and am passionate about to make the next chapter of
- 9:53Speaker 3: my life happen, because you know, it was a time
- 9:56Speaker 3: where The Hills had been off the air for a
- 9:58Speaker 3: couple of years. I didn't really know what was next
- 10:02Speaker 3: for me. I knew that being like solely an individual
- 10:08Speaker 3: working in the entertainment industry was not particularly comfortable for me,
- 10:13Speaker 3: and like, I'm comfortable being known and like a public
- 10:16Speaker 3: figure to a certain degree. Now I think you have
- 10:19Speaker 3: to get used to that, right Pandora's box, you can't ever.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Close it again.
- 10:24Speaker 3: And I just knew that I didn't want to be
- 10:27Speaker 3: an actress around reality shows like because for me, I
- 10:31Speaker 3: was uncomfortable living paycheck to paycheck in that way. And
- 10:34Speaker 3: I think that unless you're an actress with a really
- 10:37Speaker 3: steady job and like, you know, like nothing is promised.
- 10:41Speaker 3: And for me, it was really challenging to be in
- 10:45Speaker 3: the influencer economy and be like, I've only made enough
- 10:48Speaker 3: money to live for the next two and a half months,
- 10:50Speaker 3: and I.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Don't know where my next paycheck is coming from.
- 10:53Speaker 3: And so for me, I was really through my business,
- 10:56Speaker 3: trying to create stability for myself and like a different.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Way of living.
- 11:02Speaker 3: And you know, I just I just was more comfortable,
- 11:09Speaker 3: you know, like on this you know, adjacent path.
- 11:13Speaker 1: No, it's it actually really resonates with me because I
- 11:17Speaker 1: have been there too. I feel like, you know, you
- 11:21Speaker 1: look at your life and you look at what you
- 11:23Speaker 1: have ahead of you hopefully, and you think, how am
- 11:27Speaker 1: I going to get there? How am I going to
- 11:30Speaker 1: do this? And you know that security is really important
- 11:35Speaker 1: when you are following your gut and doing what you
- 11:39Speaker 1: want to do rather than what you have to do
- 11:41Speaker 1: to pay the bills, you know. So it's so cool
- 11:44Speaker 1: to turn what you want into giving you the how
- 11:47Speaker 1: and the why, you know what I mean? Like that
- 11:49Speaker 1: you're able to do that?
- 11:51Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I think you know something I always struggled with,
- 11:55Speaker 3: even when I was on the hills and on Laguna,
- 11:58Speaker 3: is that entertainment. You have to be picked, right If
- 12:03Speaker 3: you want a job, you have to be picked for.
- 12:05Speaker 1: That's so fun, isn't it so fun?
- 12:08Speaker 3: And there's not a lot of like personal merit. You know,
- 12:12Speaker 3: smart's ability they can get you that job.
- 12:16Speaker 2: You have to be picked. You have to be a
- 12:17Speaker 2: good actress, but you.
- 12:18Speaker 3: Have to be picked. And I think in reality TV,
- 12:23Speaker 3: if you are not willing to put it all out
- 12:25Speaker 3: there and sacrifice yourself for the show, for the network,
- 12:30Speaker 3: you're not going to get picked. And for me, like
- 12:34Speaker 3: my dabbling with that, my experimenting with that, like I
- 12:39Speaker 3: expired very quickly from that POV I just was like,
- 12:42Speaker 3: I don't want.
- 12:43Speaker 2: To do this. It makes me so uncomfortable.
- 12:48Speaker 3: But again, like Pandora's Box, I had an audience and
- 12:53Speaker 3: I felt like I could help that audience as I
- 12:57Speaker 3: moved into the next chapter of my life by just
- 13:00Speaker 3: talking about what I was dealing with and doing my
- 13:03Speaker 3: best to put solutions out there. So the first two
- 13:07Speaker 3: three years of Love Wellness, I was a solo founder
- 13:10Speaker 3: and operator. I worked with our medical advisors and our manufacturers,
- 13:15Speaker 3: food scientists, you know the experts who basically create products
- 13:19Speaker 3: with you and bring them to life. But I was
- 13:21Speaker 3: a solo founder operator for the first two and a
- 13:23Speaker 3: half three years until I really started to realize that
- 13:28Speaker 3: like this had legs, And it was then that I
- 13:31Speaker 3: started bringing on a team, and very shortly thereafter we
- 13:34Speaker 3: launched an alta. Then we launched a target amazing all
- 13:37Speaker 3: of these different channels.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, when you were doing that, when
- 13:41Speaker 1: you were a solo was a solo venture or three times,
- 13:45Speaker 1: when you were like what am I doing? What have
- 13:47Speaker 1: I gotten? My like I don't even belong in this space.
- 13:51Speaker 1: You have that kind of self doubt or like sometimes
- 13:53Speaker 1: they call it imposter syndrome.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Now, honestly not really. I think when I started the company,
- 13:59Speaker 3: it was big time for entrepreneurs and consumer LEDs like startups.
- 14:06Speaker 3: You know, everyone was starting a company Casper, Glossy, Egches,
- 14:10Speaker 3: but you know, all of these brands, and I thought,
- 14:14Speaker 3: I'm smart enough, like I can figure this out for
- 14:18Speaker 3: me again, problem solving, Like I love to problem solve.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Be a problem, it does not freak me out. I'm
- 14:25Speaker 3: like great new Oh my gosh.
- 14:27Speaker 1: I think I'm the opposite, Like give me a problem.
- 14:30Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I can't.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:33Speaker 3: And I think like a lot of entrepreneurs are that way.
- 14:37Speaker 2: They see problems.
- 14:38Speaker 3: As like the next delicious, juicy thing they get to
- 14:41Speaker 3: say into And I still very much am that way.
- 14:46Speaker 3: And so every obstacle was this exciting like next phase
- 14:51Speaker 3: of the business that I had to figure out and
- 14:54Speaker 3: could I figure out the puzzle pieces and the challenge
- 14:57Speaker 3: and make.
- 14:58Speaker 2: It all work, so.
- 15:00Speaker 1: It is like a puzzle.
- 15:01Speaker 2: I like love it.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Do you think like you talked about the
- 15:06Speaker 1: thickening of your skin do you in reality TV? Do
- 15:11Speaker 1: you think that helped you in founding your own business
- 15:14Speaker 1: or did it like discourage people from taking you seriously?
- 15:20Speaker 1: Like you know, what were you up against in that respect?
- 15:23Speaker 2: A double sided coin.
- 15:24Speaker 3: Certainly, the first few years of my business, I think
- 15:29Speaker 3: there was like a quiet audience that was like, oh
- 15:32Speaker 3: my god, solutions for my problems because the business was
- 15:35Speaker 3: profitable kind of at game.
- 15:38Speaker 2: But media, like media and social media, I think, question the.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Validity of the need for these types of products. And
- 15:52Speaker 3: I think in general people were like, oh, like feminine care,
- 15:55Speaker 3: that's like not that feminist.
- 15:57Speaker 2: But the reality is is that in these bodies.
- 16:00Speaker 3: We have problems and we deserve to have clean, effective
- 16:05Speaker 3: solutions that are science fact that actually work. And I
- 16:09Speaker 3: try to explain to people that have not had a
- 16:13Speaker 3: vactional health issue and they think that these types of
- 16:16Speaker 3: products are irrelevant and misogynistic or whatever, and it's like, well,
- 16:20Speaker 3: you haven't had that experience, and so how can you
- 16:23Speaker 3: even like form an opinion about it, right, do.
- 16:26Speaker 1: You even have vagina?
- 16:28Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's like just because you haven't experienced it
- 16:31Speaker 3: and you don't think it's important, like that invalidates the
- 16:36Speaker 3: experience of other women who maybe are not brave enough
- 16:39Speaker 3: to talk about this, right, because I think I understood
- 16:43Speaker 3: through the growth of the business that there certainly were
- 16:45Speaker 3: a lot of women who were silently suffering. So I
- 16:49Speaker 3: think the media and people in social media were like,
- 16:51Speaker 3: what the hell. But a lot of people, I think,
- 16:58Speaker 3: really her me through my storytelling and they saw themselves
- 17:03Speaker 3: in me. And if you look at all of our
- 17:05Speaker 3: reviews since day one, everyone is telling their story.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Right.
- 17:09Speaker 3: I told my story and they felt compelled to share
- 17:14Speaker 3: their story in return, and how much our products actually
- 17:18Speaker 3: helped them. And I think now the women's woman's category,
- 17:23Speaker 3: we sort of like gave birth.
- 17:25Speaker 5: To it perfect and now that category, like the feminine
- 17:31Speaker 5: care isle, the beautyisle, looks totally different than it did
- 17:33Speaker 5: a decade ago because.
- 17:35Speaker 2: All of this new innovation, Yeah, does help women's bodies.
- 17:39Speaker 1: I mean just women's health in general is starting to,
- 17:44Speaker 1: you know, get the money and attention that it needs,
- 17:46Speaker 1: the funding that it's always deserved. So now is the time.
- 17:51Speaker 1: But you, yeah, you started early, you had the baby
- 17:55Speaker 1: when you were young.
- 17:57Speaker 3: You know. I was like, personally, I have really sensitive skin,
- 18:01Speaker 3: I've a really sensitive body.
- 18:02Speaker 2: But I was like, I want to.
- 18:04Speaker 3: Feel confident in my body, and you know, the right
- 18:07Speaker 3: things aren't out there. You know, all of these doctors
- 18:10Speaker 3: have told me it's because all of these ingredients are
- 18:12Speaker 3: in these products. So my gosh, why can't I create
- 18:16Speaker 3: products in a different way?
- 18:18Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And you were having these problems, and
- 18:21Speaker 1: so I'm sure you thought like, there must be other
- 18:23Speaker 1: women that are having these same problems, and this is
- 18:26Speaker 1: why I need to do this.
- 18:28Speaker 3: Yes, back then it was I didn't know how to
- 18:31Speaker 3: like do consumer research back then.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Now I do.
- 18:35Speaker 1: A learning curve, a learning curve, a learning.
- 18:37Speaker 3: Curve, right, But I just I felt really passionate about it,
- 18:42Speaker 3: and I felt like I wanted to make things that
- 18:47Speaker 3: could empower women. And these things in some way, shape
- 18:53Speaker 3: or form had helped me in my own life, right,
- 18:56Speaker 3: but they weren't necessarily mainstream. And so yeah, I mean
- 19:02Speaker 3: like I wasn't taken seriously at first, but now the
- 19:07Speaker 3: story is very different. I think if you tell your
- 19:11Speaker 3: authentic story for long enough and it's real and the
- 19:15Speaker 3: things that you make work. Then eventually the people that
- 19:20Speaker 3: they used to laugh at you see you at Walmart
- 19:23Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, I used to make fun of
- 19:25Speaker 3: that girl, but I can't anymore.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's that's so good.
- 19:31Speaker 2: I still can It's you know they still do, but
- 19:33Speaker 2: they still can't.
- 19:34Speaker 1: But who's laughing now? Is the thing. So you've really
- 19:44Speaker 1: been brave, like you were saying and sharing your authentic stories.
- 19:47Speaker 1: You've been documenting and sharing about your endometriosis diagnosis, and
- 19:52Speaker 1: I would love for you to sort of share with
- 19:54Speaker 1: our audience. How did you find out that you had
- 19:58Speaker 1: endometriosis and were you like suffering for years without even
- 20:04Speaker 1: knowing what it was?
- 20:05Speaker 3: Yes, So it turns out I was and I wasn't
- 20:09Speaker 3: ever able to like look at my matrix of symptoms.
- 20:15Speaker 3: I mean, no doctor either be.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Like it's this right.
- 20:19Speaker 3: So the thing about endometriosis, the stats say one in
- 20:22Speaker 3: ten habit doctors believe it's way higher. But there's no
- 20:27Speaker 3: real test for endometriosis. You have to have surgery to
- 20:31Speaker 3: open you up to get a visual confirmation for a dice.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Why because the technology doesn't exist there are some things
- 20:42Speaker 3: that you know are happening in the research world from
- 20:44Speaker 3: an ENDO perspective, that hopefully will change that down the road,
- 20:49Speaker 3: But right now there's no true test that just blood
- 20:53Speaker 3: tests or they can be like, you have enometriosis. And
- 20:58Speaker 3: what's challenging about and know is that it's a chronic
- 21:01Speaker 3: inflammatory disease. So there is no cure for ENDO, and
- 21:04Speaker 3: there is no good test for ENDO except like literally
- 21:07Speaker 3: a surgeon being like, yep, she's got it.
- 21:09Speaker 1: How do they wait?
- 21:10Speaker 2: Wait?
- 21:10Speaker 1: Wait, how do they when they look in there? How
- 21:12Speaker 1: do they know?
- 21:13Speaker 3: So endometriosis presents visually as like little dots, little things
- 21:18Speaker 3: like in your u like on your uterus, on your ovaries,
- 21:22Speaker 3: in your pelviskay, So visually you can see it typically
- 21:29Speaker 3: and it looks different. It can look like kind of
- 21:30Speaker 3: stringy like spider webby white, or it can be like
- 21:34Speaker 3: little tiny black dots kind of all together, and it
- 21:39Speaker 3: is uterine cells that have escaped and are like growing outside.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Of the uterus, and they don't know quite like how
- 21:44Speaker 2: that happens.
- 21:46Speaker 3: So anyway, I started like my own fertility journey and
- 21:51Speaker 3: it connects. I swear when I was thirty three, I
- 21:54Speaker 3: did my first egger tree bowl because I was like
- 21:57Speaker 3: single in the middle of my thirties and I thought, well,
- 22:01Speaker 3: I better do this because I don't want to have children.
- 22:05Speaker 3: So I did my first type retrieval. My amh was
- 22:08Speaker 3: well like it was a fine retrieval. I did another
- 22:11Speaker 3: one at thirty five it was worse, and when I
- 22:15Speaker 3: met my fiancee, we were like, we better go see
- 22:17Speaker 3: the doctor and just to do a check up and
- 22:19Speaker 3: see how things are going, because we would like to
- 22:21Speaker 3: have a family together. And the doctor said, before we
- 22:23Speaker 3: go any further, I would like to just run some
- 22:27Speaker 3: tests to see if there's anything in your makeup that
- 22:31Speaker 3: maybe would be preventative for you, like preventing you from
- 22:35Speaker 3: getting pregnant, or how do you be and you know,
- 22:38Speaker 3: so she checked for like lupus and like all these things,
- 22:40Speaker 3: doing blood work. But then there is a biopsy you
- 22:43Speaker 3: can do, a uterine biopsy. It is so painful. It's
- 22:49Speaker 3: called the receptive of biopsy, and they basically.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Put a thing into your uterus while you're awake under
- 22:56Speaker 2: no oh my god pain relief. You're awake, and they
- 22:59Speaker 2: like scoop out a little bit of your uterus, okay,
- 23:02Speaker 2: and if the uterine.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Cells show any inflammation, it suggests that you might have endometriosis,
- 23:10Speaker 3: because again endo is an inflammatory disease.
- 23:14Speaker 2: So again it's not.
- 23:15Speaker 3: A conformation of endometriosis. It says, yes, your uterine cells
- 23:20Speaker 3: are inflamed or no they are not. And mine came
- 23:23Speaker 3: back as very inflamed, and so the doctor said, you
- 23:27Speaker 3: probably have endometriosis, and if you want to have children,
- 23:31Speaker 3: this needs.
- 23:31Speaker 2: To be addressed.
- 23:32Speaker 3: One of the good things about endometriosis at this point
- 23:34Speaker 3: in time is that you can have excision surgery, which
- 23:38Speaker 3: is part of the opening you up and taking.
- 23:41Speaker 1: A peek right right, same surgery.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Same surgery they plan to do, you know, a visual
- 23:47Speaker 3: track and if.
- 23:47Speaker 2: It's there, they will take it out.
- 23:49Speaker 3: Okay, And along with that they might take out cybroids
- 23:53Speaker 3: or things like that, other you know, sort of like
- 23:55Speaker 3: benign gross that may impede your ability to have a baby.
- 24:01Speaker 3: So my surgery was in February of this year and
- 24:05Speaker 3: gosh darn it, they opened me up and there it was.
- 24:09Speaker 1: Did they scoop it out?
- 24:10Speaker 3: They It's like they scooped it out. Thankfully, they scooped
- 24:15Speaker 3: it out. And so now I'm like still recovering and
- 24:18Speaker 3: moving forward.
- 24:19Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, how are you? How are you doing now?
- 24:22Speaker 3: I mean, so my surgeon, who is an excellent surgeon.
- 24:27Speaker 3: Also an issue is it's very hard to find an
- 24:29Speaker 3: endometriosis excision surgeon in this country. There's like a handful
- 24:34Speaker 3: of doctors that do this type of surgery, which is
- 24:40Speaker 3: typically gives you a better result than an ablation surgery
- 24:44Speaker 3: because I think where they burn stuff out, this is
- 24:46Speaker 3: them actually like cutting it out. I'm we'll have to
- 24:49Speaker 3: like do a little bit digger deeping because I didn't
- 24:51Speaker 3: have a blation surgery.
- 24:52Speaker 2: I had excision.
- 24:54Speaker 3: An excision is kind of the gold standard right now,
- 24:57Speaker 3: thinking about it, it takes me back to like a
- 24:59Speaker 3: time that i've I thought I was going to coast through,
- 25:01Speaker 3: but I really did. My surgeon was like, it's definitely
- 25:05Speaker 3: going to be fourteen days.
- 25:06Speaker 1: At home, okay.
- 25:07Speaker 3: And I was like, sir, what are you talking about?
- 25:11Speaker 3: This is before I knew that I really had it,
- 25:14Speaker 3: and like how advanced it was. And he was like, yeah,
- 25:17Speaker 3: like the typical recovery is like fourteen days minimum at home.
- 25:21Speaker 1: And you thought you would be quicker than that.
- 25:23Speaker 2: I thought I would conquer that.
- 25:25Speaker 3: And when I woke up from my surgery, I was
- 25:27Speaker 3: in so much pain that I immediately knew that he
- 25:30Speaker 3: was right. And I immediately knew that he had found
- 25:34Speaker 3: what he was looking for and that I could just
- 25:36Speaker 3: tell it was worse than maybe what they thought, or
- 25:40Speaker 3: that my surgery was a bit more complicated than I
- 25:43Speaker 3: had anticipated. So they cut through my abdominal wall in
- 25:47Speaker 3: a few places, and some of them were really deep incisions,
- 25:50Speaker 3: like all the way through, and I could not sit
- 25:53Speaker 3: up on my own for two weeks, like my fiance
- 25:57Speaker 3: had to literally helped me sit up, help how to
- 26:01Speaker 3: help me roll over in bed, Like I was pretty
- 26:06Speaker 3: much ammobile for the first almost fourteen days. And the
- 26:11Speaker 3: reality is like my recovery took a lot longer than
- 26:14Speaker 3: fourteen days. I started to work again, but worked from
- 26:17Speaker 3: home after those two weeks, but the exhaustion was real.
- 26:22Speaker 3: The physical, the physical healing from the surgery was pretty remarkable.
- 26:30Speaker 3: Like I could not pee or go to the bathroom
- 26:32Speaker 3: without pain for a solid three months.
- 26:35Speaker 2: After the surgery.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Like even now was when I pee, I like feel
- 26:40Speaker 3: where they like got around my bladder and it's just
- 26:43Speaker 3: nerves still regrowing.
- 26:45Speaker 2: It's crazy, but like.
- 26:46Speaker 3: You just don't know, and you can like grow into
- 26:49Speaker 3: your bladder, can grow into your abdominal wall, can grow all.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Over the place.
- 26:53Speaker 3: And yeah, the surgery was was physically proper, but also emotionally,
- 26:59Speaker 3: I like, I haven't really told a lot of people,
- 27:01Speaker 3: told my close friends and family, and then my social
- 27:05Speaker 3: media following knew I had surgery because I was like, oh,
- 27:08Speaker 3: I had like pelvic abdominal surgery. And then I didn't
- 27:12Speaker 3: realize that when you have ENDO excision, there's like classic
- 27:15Speaker 3: scar formations that you have.
- 27:16Speaker 2: So I posted a photo of.
- 27:18Speaker 3: My belly and then everyone in the comments was like,
- 27:20Speaker 3: oh my god, you have.
- 27:20Speaker 2: ENDO, you have END, you have NDO, And I was.
- 27:22Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, I hadn't planned on the daily yet,
- 27:25Speaker 3: but yes I do.
- 27:26Speaker 2: And I was like scared because it's like I didn't
- 27:30Speaker 2: like I want to go down this road yet.
- 27:32Speaker 3: But I immediately started to feel relieved because I immediately
- 27:34Speaker 3: found this.
- 27:34Speaker 2: Community of people who understand.
- 27:37Speaker 3: What I had been dealing with that I did not
- 27:39Speaker 3: anticipate at all. And so that accident was really a
- 27:43Speaker 3: happy accident ultimately, And yeah, I think it helped me
- 27:48Speaker 3: my emotional state a lot to understand that there was
- 27:52Speaker 3: a huge group of strangers that was like we got you,
- 27:56Speaker 3: You're one of us, this is a community, and like
- 27:59Speaker 3: we're here just for you, which really took me by surprise.
- 28:03Speaker 1: That's what it's for. That's that's the beautiful thing about
- 28:05Speaker 1: social media.
- 28:06Speaker 2: It can be good sometimes I can.
- 28:08Speaker 1: It can absolutely be good if used correctly. So you're
- 28:19Speaker 1: thirty eight now, you said when you were thirty three
- 28:21Speaker 1: you did an egg retrieval. I'm sure you know. What
- 28:26Speaker 1: might have caused you to go and do that was
- 28:29Speaker 1: you're seeing you know, the years go by, you're seeing
- 28:32Speaker 1: friends getting married, having kids, and comparing yourself to others.
- 28:37Speaker 1: Never does anyone any good, but it's really hard not to.
- 28:41Speaker 1: But you got engaged earlier this year. Congratulations you. I
- 28:49Speaker 1: would love for you to speak to our audience about
- 28:53Speaker 1: divine timing. Do you believe in that, because it sounds
- 28:56Speaker 1: like that's what's happening for you.
- 28:58Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know if that's exactly what I
- 29:01Speaker 3: would call it, but you know, when I was younger,
- 29:06Speaker 3: I yearned so much for a relationship and for a partners.
- 29:10Speaker 2: I think a lot of us do. We're humans, and
- 29:12Speaker 2: that's just natural, right.
- 29:15Speaker 3: My background, I think on TV and then having a
- 29:19Speaker 3: company that was like going really well, really fast. I
- 29:23Speaker 3: think a lot of men would meet me and they
- 29:26Speaker 3: would want to meet me and date me for a
- 29:28Speaker 3: little bit, but they weren't like, oh my god, she's
- 29:30Speaker 3: more successful than I am. I can't I can't do this,
- 29:33Speaker 3: or she was on TV.
- 29:34Speaker 2: How do I take this person seriously?
- 29:37Speaker 3: But I think also I was like so focused on
- 29:43Speaker 3: being in a partnership at that time time or like dating,
- 29:46Speaker 3: that I probably was giving off the wrong energy, right
- 29:49Speaker 3: A lot of people who want a boyfriend or a girlfriend,
- 29:53Speaker 3: you give off the wrong energy. And everybody does that
- 29:56Speaker 3: at periods of their life. And it was through my
- 29:59Speaker 3: mid third is that I really got comfortable being on
- 30:01Speaker 3: my own.
- 30:03Speaker 2: And I knew for years.
- 30:05Speaker 3: I was like, I have to be comfortable on my own.
- 30:07Speaker 3: I have to be comfortable on my own. And I
- 30:10Speaker 3: didn't like say, before I meet the right person. I
- 30:15Speaker 3: just thought, I have to be comfortable on my own
- 30:17Speaker 3: because maybe it doesn't happen for everybody.
- 30:21Speaker 2: And I think being in New York, living in New
- 30:23Speaker 2: York City changes the game a little bit too.
- 30:28Speaker 3: I have fifteen women that are the ages of thirty
- 30:33Speaker 3: five to forty that are so incredible and they're all single.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Yeah, is it hard? It is that men, it's a.
- 30:42Speaker 3: Very tough city to meet people because you can go
- 30:47Speaker 3: to this bar and twenty minutes later be here and
- 30:49Speaker 3: here and here, and everyone is accomplished and everyone is
- 30:53Speaker 3: beautiful and everyone is somebody, right, and so you can
- 30:56Speaker 3: really like take your pick to a certain degree.
- 30:58Speaker 2: And I think that dating apps don't have that.
- 31:01Speaker 3: It's the mindset of like it's never ending, and I yeah, yeah,
- 31:06Speaker 3: And so it's just a weird city. And it's also
- 31:09Speaker 3: very socially acceptable here to get engaged and married in
- 31:13Speaker 3: your late thirties, even in your forties, right, everybody does
- 31:17Speaker 3: that here. So I think I felt sort of like
- 31:20Speaker 3: odd man out outside of New York City, but not
- 31:22Speaker 3: necessarily in New York City, because understand that community was
- 31:26Speaker 3: like all single people all my age, and it wasn't
- 31:30Speaker 3: that weird, but your heart still yearns.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Right.
- 31:33Speaker 3: However, I had to really get actually comfortable with being
- 31:39Speaker 3: on my own, I think, before you could meet the
- 31:44Speaker 3: person who is supposed to be your person, right, because
- 31:46Speaker 3: you have to cure your own energy, You have to
- 31:49Speaker 3: cure how you present to people and present to the world,
- 31:53Speaker 3: and you want to be confident. You want to know
- 31:55Speaker 3: who you are, and you want to know what you want.
- 31:57Speaker 2: In your life.
- 31:59Speaker 3: And until you know those things, I think you can
- 32:02Speaker 3: find a partner, but they may not be the right partner,
- 32:04Speaker 3: right because I.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Dated lots of men, you know what I mean.
- 32:08Speaker 3: But it wasn't until I was really confident with myself
- 32:12Speaker 3: and how my life was going that I felt really
- 32:16Speaker 3: good about how I would present to a potential partner.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Yeah, that's You're so right. In my experience as well,
- 32:25Speaker 1: it wasn't until I gave myself that opportunity to really
- 32:30Speaker 1: get comfortable in my own skin and enjoy being alone.
- 32:34Speaker 1: And you know, people always said you have to love
- 32:38Speaker 1: yourself before you can love others, yes, or something like that.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Isn't that the thing?
- 32:43Speaker 2: Like, yes, that's about right now.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Yes, there's something in there. Basically, it starts with loving yourself.
- 32:50Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
- 32:51Speaker 1: And until you get there, it's hard to fully love
- 32:54Speaker 1: somebody else in a healthy way.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:58Speaker 1: Completely, So you got there? You met your how did
- 33:02Speaker 1: you guys meet?
- 33:04Speaker 3: So people I often do like question and answer on
- 33:09Speaker 3: Instagram stories. For years people would be like, are you cycle?
- 33:13Speaker 3: I'm your circle, and I would just avoid the question
- 33:15Speaker 3: because for a while I was like, oh my god,
- 33:17Speaker 3: this is But then when I was confident, I was like,
- 33:24Speaker 3: I'm going to answer this because like whatever. And the
- 33:27Speaker 3: second I answered it, the second I got a DM
- 33:30Speaker 3: from one of Dom's sisters who like, is beautiful and
- 33:35Speaker 3: like you can like she's a real person.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Sorry. I was like, this is not a crazy person.
- 33:41Speaker 1: I'm not being catfished.
- 33:42Speaker 2: Okay, good And she was like, I think you should
- 33:46Speaker 2: meet my brother. He's amazing. He's in the city, he's
- 33:49Speaker 2: done all these things.
- 33:50Speaker 3: She sent his photo and I was like, this is
- 33:52Speaker 3: my literal dream man and now getting married.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is.
- 33:59Speaker 2: A cool That is divine intervention.
- 34:03Speaker 3: I mean, can you find and you finally put yourself
- 34:06Speaker 3: out there and your energy is good, It's like okay.
- 34:08Speaker 1: And that's when it happens. And yeah, divine timing into
- 34:13Speaker 1: like whatever you want to call it. Yes, it's the
- 34:16Speaker 1: energy that you're putting out there. Is something changed, Yes,
- 34:21Speaker 1: and it brought you what you wanted. It's so beautiful.
- 34:25Speaker 1: I love that when you guys getting married.
- 34:27Speaker 3: We're getting married this summer. Oh yeah, we're really excited.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting married in a little bit and once
- 34:36Speaker 2: I do, I'll share an this with everybody.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really excited for you. That's I'm so excited.
- 34:44Speaker 1: I love love, I love weddings, and I love you too.
- 34:47Speaker 3: And you know, we're remarkably not that stressed about it. Good,
- 34:53Speaker 3: it's going to be a great day. Yeah, family just easy, relaxed.
- 35:00Speaker 2: So it's interesting. We like started thinking we were going
- 35:03Speaker 2: to have like a big New York City wedding and
- 35:05Speaker 2: then we like changed course. Good, now we're like not stressed.
- 35:12Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, I was like, oh.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Today I was remembered. It was like, oh, I have
- 35:15Speaker 2: to like make our like you know, marriage lessons appointment.
- 35:18Speaker 2: I wasn't like freaked out about it.
- 35:20Speaker 3: Like it's fine, it's fine.
- 35:21Speaker 1: It'll all fall into place exactly. This sounds like it
- 35:26Speaker 1: was meant to be. I'm really hope hopeful for you
- 35:29Speaker 1: for a beautiful, bright future and a family.
- 35:32Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I mean, whatever however you create your family, it will
- 35:36Speaker 1: be perfect.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Yeah, we're very hopeful.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I know you're not a doctor, but you are extremely
- 35:41Speaker 1: hands on with your brand and you've been privy to
- 35:43Speaker 1: a lot of research and data when it comes to
- 35:47Speaker 1: wanting to obtain good vaginal health. I want to hear
- 35:50Speaker 1: your thoughts on a couple of things. Maybe people are
- 35:53Speaker 1: wondering out there are some crazy questions. Are you up
- 35:55Speaker 1: for it? Like a little Q and a like to
- 35:58Speaker 1: not a doctor, but just to low boss Worth. Yes,
- 36:02Speaker 1: let's do okay? Thongs and g strings, are they okay?
- 36:06Speaker 1: Or should you choose something else?
- 36:10Speaker 2: I think if you.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Are susceptible to urinary tract infections, maybe a different choice
- 36:15Speaker 3: is better. Ecoli travels from your backside up into the
- 36:21Speaker 3: urethra and typically can like go across your skin or
- 36:24Speaker 3: like across your underwear. You can sort of be like
- 36:26Speaker 3: a carrier of bacteria from back to front.
- 36:31Speaker 1: So you have to That's why people wipe front to back. Yeah,
- 36:36Speaker 1: I mean your mom didn't teach you that. I'm teaching
- 36:38Speaker 1: you right now.
- 36:39Speaker 3: You're sensitive down there. Like a different type of underwear
- 36:42Speaker 3: maybe okay, but go for like cotton wash. Even the
- 36:46Speaker 3: people from remember a few years ago, people were like,
- 36:48Speaker 3: you should throw out your underwear every like whatever, like
- 36:51Speaker 3: every six months, and like they're not necessarily wrong, but
- 36:56Speaker 3: I think that that's like really goes to go going
- 36:58Speaker 3: above and beyond.
- 37:00Speaker 1: Oh that's not good, because I've had some of my
- 37:02Speaker 1: underwear for a really long time. I'm kind of sentimentally
- 37:05Speaker 1: attached to some of them.
- 37:07Speaker 3: That's fine, everyone has underwear for a long time. I
- 37:09Speaker 3: don't think that's a realistic practice.
- 37:11Speaker 1: Okay, this is going to be crazy and completely completely revealing.
- 37:15Speaker 1: But sometimes I have a house full of girls and we'll,
- 37:19Speaker 1: you know, laundry will get mixed up, and then I
- 37:22Speaker 1: will find myself wearing their underwear and vice versa, and
- 37:26Speaker 1: I'm just like too rushed to care, so I just
- 37:28Speaker 1: throw it on and off I go. Is that bad?
- 37:31Speaker 1: It's been washed?
- 37:33Speaker 3: I do know that I don't know the answer to
- 37:36Speaker 3: I think that, like maybe the people who shout from
- 37:41Speaker 3: the rooftops about throwing away your underwear frequently may have
- 37:43Speaker 3: a different opinion. Clean Like, I don't know the answer.
- 37:49Speaker 3: I'm not a microbiologists, and I have not read the research.
- 37:53Speaker 1: On sharing underwear.
- 37:54Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Okay, how about wearing like tight workout legan or even
- 38:01Speaker 1: tight jeans all day long? Does that impact your vaginal
- 38:05Speaker 1: health negatively?
- 38:08Speaker 3: If you may be more susceptible to infection, then potentially yes,
- 38:13Speaker 3: but not necessarily so, Like you try to keep like
- 38:17Speaker 3: a dry environment down there and if you sit in
- 38:21Speaker 3: your sweat or in the pool and your wet bathing
- 38:24Speaker 3: suit for too long, it can like breed bacteria and
- 38:28Speaker 3: fungus and things like that. And so that's why, you know,
- 38:30Speaker 3: like when you get out of the pool, you want
- 38:32Speaker 3: to like rinse.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Off and switch and to dry clothes because you want
- 38:34Speaker 2: to get.
- 38:34Speaker 3: The chemicals from the pool off your body and off
- 38:38Speaker 3: your intimate skin. And you also don't want to be
- 38:40Speaker 3: sitting in a wet bathing suit because like that can
- 38:42Speaker 3: just breed and cause things to grow, right, like warmth
- 38:45Speaker 3: and wet thinks grow.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Yeah, that would not be good.
- 38:51Speaker 2: That would not be good. Things grow.
- 38:53Speaker 1: Okay, Wait have you heard about this? Because I hadn't
- 38:58Speaker 1: ozebic vagina.
- 38:59Speaker 2: No, oh, I have not. What is that?
- 39:02Speaker 1: Okay? Apparently taking a semaglue tide can lead to an
- 39:07Speaker 1: imbalance in the vagina between the good and the bad bacteria.
- 39:12Speaker 1: The connection, you know, like the whole connection between the two,
- 39:16Speaker 1: because there is a connection. You know about that.
- 39:18Speaker 3: Yeah, I know about the connection, but I have not
- 39:20Speaker 3: heard about ozempic vagina at all. So the idea is
- 39:24Speaker 3: that a GLP one may have an impact on the
- 39:27Speaker 3: gut microbiome which then can like indirectly affect the vaginal microbiome.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the bacteria, the bad bacteria increasing.
- 39:37Speaker 2: I mean, anything's possible, my lady. This is the first
- 39:42Speaker 2: time I've heard about this.
- 39:44Speaker 1: I was like, what O zembic vagina, But.
- 39:47Speaker 3: I haven't I haven't heard about that specifically. But if
- 39:51Speaker 3: it does negatively affect your gut microbiome, I mean, yeah,
- 39:57Speaker 3: like you could come to the conclusion that it may
- 40:02Speaker 3: negatively affect vaginal health.
- 40:04Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, if you're taking a gop one,
- 40:06Speaker 1: hopefully you're seeing a doctor too, and you know, because
- 40:10Speaker 1: it can affect your gut considerably, So it really does
- 40:15Speaker 1: make sense, like you're saying that it would impact other
- 40:18Speaker 1: parts of your body, specifically parts of your body that
- 40:21Speaker 1: are very sensitive to that balance, that pH balance that
- 40:25Speaker 1: by that microbiome importance, you know.
- 40:28Speaker 3: Yeah. It's interesting though about the GLP ones is that
- 40:32Speaker 3: you know, locally, like they're very anti inflammatory, and like
- 40:37Speaker 3: reducing inflammation in the body can have a lot of
- 40:39Speaker 3: very positive, like secondary and tertiary impacts.
- 40:43Speaker 2: On different systems body.
- 40:44Speaker 3: So I don't know, I hear a lot of conflicting
- 40:46Speaker 3: information about GLP one.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you know, it's the pros and the cons.
- 40:51Speaker 1: You got to weigh it out and make sure it
- 40:52Speaker 1: works for you.
- 40:53Speaker 2: I guess yeah, but this is the first time I'm
- 40:56Speaker 2: hearing about.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Now you're going to look it up. You're going to
- 40:59Speaker 1: be like, I need to know you need to make
- 41:01Speaker 1: a supplement for o zambic vagina. That's my gift to you,
- 41:06Speaker 1: is a new idea for a product. I better get
- 41:12Speaker 1: a free bottle, That's all I'm saying. Not that I
- 41:15Speaker 1: you know, need it, but I mean it.
- 41:18Speaker 3: Affects the microbiome. Just our badginal probiotic is a great option.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Absolutely. What a beautiful bottle there you have with you?
- 41:29Speaker 1: So cute.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get.
- 41:30Speaker 3: A Walmart Target Ulta, not the bunny thing.
- 41:35Speaker 2: We launched this product in twenty sixteen.
- 41:37Speaker 1: That's your baby right there.
- 41:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 41:39Speaker 3: I consider this to be the original multi strained vaginal
- 41:43Speaker 3: probiotic because we launched it with eight strains, and then
- 41:46Speaker 3: a couple of years ago we added one more to
- 41:48Speaker 3: like supercharge in the formula. But yeah, we've known for
- 41:52Speaker 3: a long time that strained diversity is incredibly important in
- 41:55Speaker 3: maintaining a balanced ecosystem.
- 41:59Speaker 1: I think that all this knowledge that you've gathered through
- 42:02Speaker 1: your years of experience with your brand is so important
- 42:05Speaker 1: for you to share. And I know that there are
- 42:07Speaker 1: women listening right now who are excited by this information
- 42:12Speaker 1: and the idea that there are products out there that
- 42:15Speaker 1: you're providing that are specifically for vaginal health. I think
- 42:23Speaker 1: that's really cool.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Well, the vagina is an immunity organ.
- 42:27Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's a sex organ, but it's also an
- 42:31Speaker 3: immunity organ. Like if working properly, the vagina like kills
- 42:36Speaker 3: pathogens and kills invaders. So like enter into the vea,
- 42:41Speaker 3: you need your microbiome to be working properly so that
- 42:45Speaker 3: it can.
- 42:45Speaker 1: Do its job right right. Oh my gosh, it's also fascinating.
- 42:49Speaker 1: I really appreciate you walking me through all of this
- 42:54Speaker 1: and enduring my ridiculous questions. Well, before I let you go,
- 42:59Speaker 1: low Bosworth, what was your last I choose me moment?
- 43:03Speaker 2: M my last I choose me moment? I think it
- 43:08Speaker 2: was yesterday. My fiance was like, do you want me
- 43:10Speaker 2: to walk the dog? And I was like, yes, I do.
- 43:14Speaker 1: Okay, good A simple moment, A simple one. Yeah, choosing
- 43:19Speaker 1: yourself over that that's good because watching the dog in
- 43:23Speaker 1: New York is like a whole thing.
- 43:25Speaker 3: I know that's a very simple example, but like I
- 43:28Speaker 3: think it speaks volumes to how you treat yourself right,
- 43:33Speaker 3: Like I'm somebody that is working on accepting help. Right,
- 43:37Speaker 3: Like actually being able to do that and be like, yes,
- 43:40Speaker 3: I will accept the help that you are offering to me.
- 43:43Speaker 3: Means that I am choosing myself.
- 43:46Speaker 1: Yes, that's so hard to do for so many women. Yes,
- 43:50Speaker 1: you're a simple I choose me. A moment is a
- 43:52Speaker 1: good one. Thank you, Thank you for being on with us.