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- 1:13Speaker 1: the one hundredth radio episode of Dragnet from May tenth,
- 1:17Speaker 1: nineteen fifty one.
- 1:19Speaker 2: The Big Drills.
- 1:30Speaker 3: The story you were about to hear is true, only
- 1:33Speaker 3: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
- 1:44Speaker 3: a detective sergeant. You're assigned to burglary detail. For the
- 1:48Speaker 3: past eighteen weeks, a gang of safe men have been
- 1:50Speaker 3: breaking into large grocery stores all over the city.
- 1:53Speaker 4: They work fast. You can't localize their operations.
- 1:57Speaker 5: Your job get.
- 1:58Speaker 6: Them Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. While
- 2:08Speaker 6: the next thirty minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles
- 2:10Speaker 6: Police Department.
- 2:12Speaker 5: You will travel step by step on the side of
- 2:14Speaker 5: the law through an.
- 2:14Speaker 6: Actual case transcribed from official police files. From beginning to end,
- 2:19Speaker 6: from crime to punishment. Dragnet is the story of your
- 2:22Speaker 6: police force and action.
- 2:28Speaker 7: It was Wednesday, September sixteenth, was hot in Los Angeles.
- 2:31Speaker 7: We're working a day watch out of burgery detail. My
- 2:34Speaker 7: partner's Ben Romero. The boss's Captain Wisdom. My name is Friday.
- 2:37Speaker 7: It was seven forty five am when I got to
- 2:39Speaker 7: the service station on the corner the phone booth.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Anyhow two five two four please.
- 3:10Speaker 8: Breg Maury Rubles, I.
- 3:12Speaker 4: Take this fidy Romero there, Moman, Joe, thank you, Hey Romeo,
- 3:15Speaker 4: I'll take two.
- 3:18Speaker 8: Romero.
- 3:18Speaker 4: Is Friday? Ben?
- 3:19Speaker 8: Yeah? Where you've been?
- 3:21Speaker 4: Wow? My car again? Something's wrong with that distributor. I'm
- 3:24Speaker 4: gonna leave it at the service station and I'll grab
- 3:26Speaker 4: a street car down.
- 3:27Speaker 8: Huh heyhead again Joe. It's gonna make a thirty seven job.
- 3:30Speaker 4: We're at this time.
- 3:31Speaker 8: We have some brothers market Melrose and Green drilled us
- 3:33Speaker 8: safe and walked out with four hundred and sixty two dollars.
- 3:36Speaker 4: Steakhouts are doing a lot of good, aren't they. I'm
- 3:39Speaker 4: worn out from last night.
- 3:40Speaker 8: I didn't get any sleep. Beat the just that time
- 3:42Speaker 8: to go home, brush my teeth when this thing broke.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Okay, you said, Melrose and Green.
- 3:46Speaker 8: Yeah right, I won't wait for you. I'll go right
- 3:48Speaker 8: on out there. Armstrong and Rubles just left right.
- 3:50Speaker 4: I can get over there as fast as I can.
- 3:52Speaker 8: Oh Man went down here, bright and merrily. Thank you, jobbing.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Okay, I'll see you later.
- 3:56Speaker 8: Huh oh, Joe just meant it. Gibber just came in
- 3:58Speaker 8: the end there right anywhere to Melrose.
- 4:01Speaker 9: I's ry.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Why do you get back? I want to see you
- 4:03Speaker 4: two of my officer right.
- 4:06Speaker 8: I guess you heard it?
- 4:07Speaker 4: Yeah, I did?
- 4:07Speaker 8: Gets you the kail from the dome of his voice.
- 4:09Speaker 4: Yeah, sounds a little upset. How's he loved the same way.
- 4:17Speaker 4: For eighteen weeks, Ben and I had been assigned to
- 4:19Speaker 4: this same case.
- 4:20Speaker 7: The burglary gang was victimizing only Wilson Brothers Market throughout
- 4:24Speaker 7: the city and in surrounding towns adjacent to the city
- 4:26Speaker 7: of Los Angeles.
- 4:27Speaker 4: Their criminal activities had given them.
- 4:29Speaker 10: Well over one hundred thousand dollars stolen from these various markets,
- 4:33Speaker 10: additional officers were assigned from the Metropolitan Division, and the
- 4:36Speaker 10: case had grown.
- 4:37Speaker 4: To large proportions. It was twelve minutes.
- 4:39Speaker 7: Past eight when I arrived at Melrose and Green Streets,
- 4:42Speaker 7: the latest Wilson market to be victimized.
- 4:46Speaker 4: Same thing, Joe, just like Colore. Yeah the crime, I
- 4:49Speaker 4: have fined anything, been here and gone.
- 4:51Speaker 10: We found a few particles of claw, probably from the
- 4:53Speaker 10: guy's bloods, some metal shavings for spectrographical analysis, same as.
- 4:58Speaker 4: On all the other job how the game, the entry,
- 5:00Speaker 4: same way on front, looks like a tyren ride the.
- 5:04Speaker 10: Door, come about the burglar a line, No problem, there's
- 5:07Speaker 10: a ladder.
- 5:07Speaker 4: I'm up and take a lot.
- 5:08Speaker 8: Yeah, see yeah, I see it.
- 5:18Speaker 4: Cut the key leaves again. Huh. Now thing's different, Joe,
- 5:22Speaker 4: just exactly the same all around. Really cares if then?
- 5:28Speaker 10: Yeah, two hundred and fifty two men on the stakeout
- 5:30Speaker 10: last night, and they know just which market to hit.
- 5:33Speaker 4: One that isn't covered.
- 5:34Speaker 10: When you figure Wilson's got over three hundred stores, we
- 5:37Speaker 10: can't cover them all.
- 5:39Speaker 4: I think we might have some of the luck we
- 5:40Speaker 4: sure overdue. Nobody could be this lucky this long. You
- 5:43Speaker 4: know they're out to break the record. I haven't turned
- 5:46Speaker 4: up anything to do at all, not so far. I've
- 5:48Speaker 4: been looking around. Come on, yeah, Rubles and Armstrong in
- 5:53Speaker 4: the store.
- 5:53Speaker 10: Yeah, they're taking them back of the store of stock room, employees,
- 5:56Speaker 10: locker room.
- 5:56Speaker 4: And how much is taken goes you on the phone.
- 5:59Speaker 10: Four hundred and sixty two dollars some checks about two
- 6:01Speaker 10: hundred dollars worth.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Well, this is Wednesday. I suppose the thieves have discontinued
- 6:06Speaker 4: the weekend jobs.
- 6:07Speaker 10: I don't know.
- 6:08Speaker 4: Your guess is as good as mine.
- 6:11Speaker 10: Here's a buck, yeah, sure, good clean job. A lot
- 6:16Speaker 10: different those first ones.
- 6:17Speaker 11: Huh.
- 6:17Speaker 4: Yeah, they've come a long way. It was safe for
- 6:20Speaker 4: certainly well lighted whenever up there, Bill Bunning when we
- 6:24Speaker 4: got here. Doesn't do much good with.
- 6:26Speaker 10: All those boxes piled up over there in front of
- 6:28Speaker 10: the window, though Maner says he went there when he
- 6:30Speaker 10: closed up there. Now nothing seems to botto room, does it.
- 6:33Speaker 10: They move in, don't chance turning out the light. They
- 6:36Speaker 10: just pile crates up between themselves in the street, and
- 6:38Speaker 10: then they take their time going the box.
- 6:40Speaker 4: That's it. There's the usual empty pop bottle, three of them,
- 6:44Speaker 4: cool of bits with you know, Hi Friday didn't know
- 6:47Speaker 4: you were here. Ye, Rubles, are you have we got something? Yeah,
- 6:51Speaker 4: fist he's out of the drain in the bathroom. What
- 6:53Speaker 4: you got? Looks like they're trying to get rid of some.
- 6:56Speaker 10: Of the checks torn up and it's fishing license written too.
- 6:59Speaker 4: Could I see the Charles W. Royal issued last month?
- 7:04Speaker 10: A good chance he might have carried the license in
- 7:06Speaker 10: his pocket and got it mixed up with the checks first.
- 7:08Speaker 10: Maybe he was going to take the checks but changed
- 7:10Speaker 10: his mind, tore him up the license with him. Let's
- 7:12Speaker 10: hope you're right to day, but it might just belong
- 7:15Speaker 10: to some employee here.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Well, we've been kind of figuring these jobs might have
- 7:18Speaker 4: an inside connection. Maybe this is it. Let's check it out. Yeah,
- 7:21Speaker 4: maybe this is the break we've been looking for. We
- 7:27Speaker 4: went back to the office and checked the name Charles W.
- 7:29Speaker 4: Royal through R and I. No record.
- 7:31Speaker 7: We contacted the management of the Wilson Markets. He had
- 7:34Speaker 7: been an employee at the store which was just held up.
- 7:36Speaker 7: He'd been transferred six months prior to their van Ey's branch.
- 7:40Speaker 7: In checking back, we found that the Vaney's Market was one.
- 7:43Speaker 4: Of the first stores to be burglarize.
- 7:45Speaker 10: It was placed under surveillance for several days, and during
- 7:48Speaker 10: this period another Wilson market was Burgeride.
- 7:51Speaker 7: The officers conducting a surveillance accounted for all of Royal's
- 7:54Speaker 7: time during the burglary. It was brought in for questioning
- 7:57Speaker 7: were cleared of any complicity in the burglaries. Monday, September
- 8:01Speaker 7: twenty eighth, eight am, we met with capt'n Wisdom.
- 8:04Speaker 10: The reason for royal fishing license being in with those
- 8:06Speaker 10: checks was because he left it behind at that store
- 8:08Speaker 10: when he was transferred.
- 8:09Speaker 4: That's right.
- 8:09Speaker 10: Manager of the store confirmed it that he kept it
- 8:11Speaker 10: in the safe for him so it wouldn't get lost.
- 8:13Speaker 4: That lead went nowhere, and none of them go anywhere.
- 8:16Speaker 4: We don't get any leads.
- 8:17Speaker 10: Men, No kickbacks on any of our teletypes. Apb's radiogram
- 8:21Speaker 10: between Armstrong, Rubles and Ben and I. The girls in
- 8:24Speaker 10: the stats office think we're on the payroll down there.
- 8:26Speaker 10: We're wearing out the cards having to make runs on
- 8:28Speaker 10: the game's m for us. How about that last stuff
- 8:31Speaker 10: Breton from the CII sent down.
- 8:33Speaker 4: Then we checked all three of them out. Nothing.
- 8:35Speaker 10: Boys in the crime lab got a lot of physical
- 8:37Speaker 10: evidence that they could make something out of it.
- 8:39Speaker 4: That's just it. You can't make something out of nothing.
- 8:42Speaker 4: You haven't got much up there. A few steel shavings
- 8:44Speaker 4: off those safe, a couple of.
- 8:45Speaker 10: Broken bits, handfull of cotton fuzz I think is off.
- 8:47Speaker 10: The guy's gloves can't work miracles.
- 8:50Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I don't think we've overlooked any in Cap'n.
- 8:54Speaker 10: Every neighborhood in the vicinity of every burglary has been
- 8:56Speaker 10: checked and rechecked.
- 8:58Speaker 4: And all you turned up was that one woman now,
- 9:00Speaker 4: the one that saw the three men out in the
- 9:01Speaker 4: back of the Wilson Market overr on Vermont. She thought
- 9:04Speaker 4: they worked there, didn't know she'd witnessed the burgery. We
- 9:06Speaker 4: told her she couldn't identify an apple. I just checked
- 9:11Speaker 4: with the Sheriff's office.
- 9:12Speaker 10: These burglaries are driving them crazy too, Only it's voice
- 9:15Speaker 10: from the parole office.
- 9:16Speaker 4: Been trying to give us a hand.
- 9:17Speaker 10: Have checked out everything they sent us on dischargees and parole.
- 9:21Speaker 4: Nothing fit well.
- 9:22Speaker 10: Did the markets seem to be cooperating, holding up their
- 9:24Speaker 10: end as they were instructed?
- 9:25Speaker 4: Well, as far as we can tell, right to the letter.
- 9:27Speaker 10: You know, all the safes that were concealed in anyway
- 9:29Speaker 10: have been moved out in a more conspicuous spot.
- 9:32Speaker 4: All well eliminated.
- 9:33Speaker 7: Wilson Company has bought better made safe to replace the
- 9:36Speaker 7: ones that we're broken into that are replacing their old
- 9:38Speaker 7: models as fast as they can. Doesn't seem to stop them. Yeah,
- 9:42Speaker 7: all that's according a book. Doesn't figure it.
- 9:44Speaker 10: All those precautions, they'd be foolish enough to tip off
- 9:46Speaker 10: the thieves.
- 9:47Speaker 4: I mean here, pick a look at this. Yeah, Washing
- 9:53Speaker 4: and Gun turned this up at that venus full of
- 9:55Speaker 4: our job night before and last let me a graft
- 9:58Speaker 4: stakeout instructions.
- 9:59Speaker 10: That's right put out by the management of the markets
- 10:01Speaker 10: every time we informed them of a stake out at night,
- 10:03Speaker 10: they put these inner store memos on.
- 10:05Speaker 5: Yeah, that was for the purpose of informing all the.
- 10:08Speaker 10: Different store managers of the police Department's plan so they'd
- 10:10Speaker 10: be sure and comply with our instructions. Motive was okay,
- 10:14Speaker 10: but the effects have been causing us more trouble than
- 10:16Speaker 10: we know. We weren't these destroyed after the store managers
- 10:19Speaker 10: read them.
- 10:20Speaker 4: Apparently not.
- 10:21Speaker 10: We'd notify the management of the stores to be staked
- 10:23Speaker 10: out a week in advance so that they could quietly
- 10:25Speaker 10: let the stores know about it.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Whether we wanted the lights left on and turned off
- 10:29Speaker 4: to move the safe out of hiding all.
- 10:31Speaker 10: The various instructions, and the management if the market changes
- 10:34Speaker 10: took it on themselves to send out these memio sheets.
- 10:36Speaker 10: You know, not only that in checking the last couple
- 10:39Speaker 10: of jobs, either these sheets were in the manager's desks
- 10:41Speaker 10: or they were posted in the store someplace. All what
- 10:43Speaker 10: Beves had to do was go through a desk or
- 10:45Speaker 10: check a bullet and boardening and right where we'd be
- 10:47Speaker 10: without this advanced information. Maybe it'll slow them down. Maybe
- 10:51Speaker 10: we can write in on part of the luck we'd Yeah,
- 10:55Speaker 10: Now come on over here at the pin map Friday
- 11:00Speaker 10: and red pin for you and one for you rom Merrow,
- 11:04Speaker 10: you'll put them in. I got calllesses of my thumb
- 11:06Speaker 10: from trying to keep up with those things.
- 11:07Speaker 4: Who you know, Vellis Boulevard and rock Well from us
- 11:14Speaker 4: myth huh. You just look at him on there.
- 11:17Speaker 10: They're gonna run uside of pins if we don't blow
- 11:19Speaker 10: the whistle on them.
- 11:20Speaker 4: And I'm getting a little sick of it myself.
- 11:23Speaker 10: You take a good look at the map here, all
- 11:26Speaker 10: the red pins of these market jobs in and around
- 11:28Speaker 10: here and through here. Now, as you know, Wilson's got
- 11:35Speaker 10: stores throughout most of southern California. Yeah, they've hid in
- 11:38Speaker 10: and around the metropolitan area a Mona, Glendale, a couple
- 11:41Speaker 10: of times at the beach cities.
- 11:43Speaker 4: Look over here.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:46Speaker 10: Now for some reason, the leaving Eagle Rock alone. There's
- 11:49Speaker 10: seven Wilson markets out there, and not one of them
- 11:51Speaker 10: have been touched.
- 11:52Speaker 4: Or maybe they'll hit there next huh.
- 11:53Speaker 10: And we double checked all Cruiser units out there, told
- 11:55Speaker 10: them to be doubly alert, also to report any suspicious
- 11:58Speaker 10: moves arounder any of the stores. I want to report
- 12:01Speaker 10: in any and all cars driving below normal speeds anywhere
- 12:04Speaker 10: near those markets, anything even remotely out of line. There's
- 12:07Speaker 10: seven stores in the around that area.
- 12:10Speaker 4: Excuse me, Burglary.
- 12:13Speaker 5: Wisdom, Hi, going, Who's that.
- 12:19Speaker 4: They did Colorado on Brian Yeah right away, Yep, that
- 12:27Speaker 4: was Lieutenant Vaughan Highland Park. I was wrong.
- 12:29Speaker 10: There's only six stores in Ingle Rock, now, what I mean,
- 12:32Speaker 10: they're not going over last night.
- 12:37Speaker 7: The preliminary investigation of the Wilson Brothers market and Eagle
- 12:40Speaker 7: Rock yielded no additional physical evidence, but it definitely showed
- 12:44Speaker 7: that we were dealing with the same gang of thieves
- 12:46Speaker 7: in this last burglary, they got away with eighteen hundred
- 12:48Speaker 7: and fifty two dollars.
- 12:50Speaker 4: One thirty four.
- 12:51Speaker 7: Pm, after five hours of continuous checking in the immediate
- 12:54Speaker 7: neighborhood of the latest market to be burglarized, Ben and
- 12:57Speaker 7: I located a Missus Olive Rebard.
- 13:00Speaker 10: We felt sure that we'd reached the turning point in
- 13:01Speaker 10: the case. Missus Rebard had seen two.
- 13:04Speaker 7: Of the gang members at work in the Wilson Market
- 13:06Speaker 7: at Colorado and Bryce and Eagle Rock. She agreed to
- 13:09Speaker 7: come downtown and go through photographs of criminal suspects.
- 13:16Speaker 4: No, not any of these. Let's try the next two paces.
- 13:24Speaker 4: There are a lot of them, aren't the Yes, ma'am.
- 13:26Speaker 4: There's still a lot more to go here.
- 13:29Speaker 11: I see.
- 13:32Speaker 4: No one of these sons.
- 13:37Speaker 8: This book.
- 13:39Speaker 4: How many does that make we've been through? I believe
- 13:41Speaker 4: this one makes fifteen.
- 13:43Speaker 11: Looking at all those faces makes you wonder are there
- 13:45Speaker 11: any honest people?
- 13:47Speaker 4: I always books represent an accumulation of many years. You understand, you.
- 13:50Speaker 11: Keep pictures of everybody ever been in prison, well within
- 13:53Speaker 11: our jurisdiction.
- 13:54Speaker 10: Yes, and a great many more besides. I see, man,
- 13:57Speaker 10: how about that fulsome book up there for forty five
- 14:00Speaker 10: and forty six.
- 14:01Speaker 4: All right, I'll put this one back fine forty six. Yeah,
- 14:08Speaker 4: that's it, And here we are you ready, missus leeb
- 14:14Speaker 4: all right, No, no, I don't believe it's any of them.
- 14:28Speaker 4: Turn the next dace, and how about these.
- 14:33Speaker 11: H this one?
- 14:36Speaker 4: No, No, that one fellow looked a little like one
- 14:42Speaker 4: of them. I thought he did it first. Which one
- 14:45Speaker 4: was that? This one? No? I was I was wrong.
- 14:49Speaker 4: You looked familiar with first glance. Well, now we told
- 14:51Speaker 4: you before, mis reebn.
- 14:52Speaker 10: If any of these men in their ears, eyes, nose, chin,
- 14:55Speaker 10: any part of them looks like any part of the
- 14:56Speaker 10: men that you saw, we'd like to know that.
- 14:58Speaker 4: We'll have our sergeant put off up in their crime
- 15:00Speaker 4: lab drop a composite for you. You mean you put
- 15:03Speaker 4: all the different features together, Yes, ma'am. You think it
- 15:06Speaker 4: might helpen anyway, I mean will certainly help.
- 15:08Speaker 12: Right.
- 15:08Speaker 11: I didn't realize that you were that thoroughly to be well,
- 15:14Speaker 11: I'm just not that sure about any of their features.
- 15:17Speaker 11: Just like I told you, I didn't get too good
- 15:18Speaker 11: a look at them, but I thought I might remember.
- 15:21Speaker 11: There's so many pictures here.
- 15:23Speaker 4: We would you like to rest a little on as
- 15:24Speaker 4: webard we've been going at this thing for about two hours. No,
- 15:27Speaker 4: that's all right. I want to help if I can,
- 15:29Speaker 4: thank God, open this door a little joe, all right.
- 15:32Speaker 4: I got a little draft in from the hall, gets
- 15:35Speaker 4: a little stuff in you. Sometimes. I wonder if you'd
- 15:38Speaker 4: like a cold drink or some kind of coke something out.
- 15:40Speaker 4: Thank you, that's very kind. I'm careful one, all right?
- 15:43Speaker 4: You like to go on?
- 15:44Speaker 11: Yes?
- 15:51Speaker 4: Mm hm.
- 15:54Speaker 11: You understand that when I saw these men in the store,
- 15:56Speaker 11: I had to look through the front window. We must
- 15:59Speaker 11: have been at least for feet away from me. I
- 16:01Speaker 11: had a shot to be heard, Yes, ma'am.
- 16:02Speaker 4: We understand.
- 16:04Speaker 11: They didn't come over to me at all. I just
- 16:07Speaker 11: can't believe that they were really those lightning burglars. Isn't
- 16:10Speaker 11: that what the paper called?
- 16:11Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
- 16:13Speaker 11: They were just as big as light They're standing behind
- 16:16Speaker 11: the meat counter. They even had on the butcher's ay
- 16:18Speaker 11: for Still hard to believe, because they didn't act like.
- 16:22Speaker 4: Burglers at all. Sometimes they don't.
- 16:25Speaker 11: The only thing that struck me funny was that anybody
- 16:27Speaker 11: be working there on a Sunday. I've seen men in
- 16:30Speaker 11: there before. It just didn't seem right that they'd be
- 16:33Speaker 11: working there.
- 16:34Speaker 4: I wanted to get in to.
- 16:35Speaker 11: Pick up a box of starch. They told me to
- 16:38Speaker 11: come back Monday morning when they were open.
- 16:41Speaker 10: If you could have seen over the counter from where
- 16:43Speaker 10: you were standing, you would have seen the floor safe
- 16:45Speaker 10: right there in the meat department.
- 16:46Speaker 4: They were trying to open it known it.
- 16:50Speaker 11: You're sure you people couldn't have made a mistake.
- 16:52Speaker 10: No, ma'am, I don't think so. We've checked there and
- 16:55Speaker 10: there was no authorized employees in that story. Yesterday morning.
- 17:00Speaker 4: Must have been then, yeah, we're pretty sure it was.
- 17:04Speaker 4: And let me help your damages right by. These pages
- 17:07Speaker 4: are stuck together.
- 17:15Speaker 11: I've seen so many photographs. They're only going to look
- 17:18Speaker 11: alike to me.
- 17:19Speaker 4: You'd like to rest a while, It's fine, Maybe you'd
- 17:21Speaker 4: like to go home, come back a little later. Do
- 17:25Speaker 4: you know something that I'm positive now I wouldn't know
- 17:31Speaker 4: those men if I saw.
- 17:45Speaker 6: You are listening to drag Net from beginning to end.
- 17:49Speaker 6: Drag Net is the authentic story of your police force
- 17:52Speaker 6: and action.
- 17:53Speaker 7: M Once more, what appeared to first be a good
- 18:04Speaker 7: lead dissolved into nothing. The stakeouts were continued. Everything possible
- 18:08Speaker 7: was being done to apprehend them. The burglaries of the
- 18:10Speaker 7: Wilson markets continued. On the night of October third, Officers D. B.
- 18:14Speaker 7: O'Connell and P. W. Murphy were working the stakeout on
- 18:17Speaker 7: one of the Wilson markets in Eagle Rock.
- 18:19Speaker 4: At two thirty three am.
- 18:21Speaker 10: They had observed a great Board Coop California licensed nine
- 18:24Speaker 10: Robert nine eight one three driving at normal speed until
- 18:28Speaker 10: reaching the storefront and then slowing down perceptibly, showing unusual
- 18:32Speaker 10: interest in the market. Lieutenant Armstrong and Sergeant Rubles check
- 18:35Speaker 10: the license number through DMV.
- 18:37Speaker 4: The car was registered to a Clyde R.
- 18:38Speaker 10: Bingham two three three South Carmona Place in Eagle Rock.
- 18:43Speaker 10: It was placed under surveillance while we made a thorough
- 18:45Speaker 10: check into his background. We located him at the Neighborhood
- 18:48Speaker 10: Bar on Colorado Boulevard.
- 18:49Speaker 4: We talked to him for an hour, so that's it.
- 18:54Speaker 10: I'm not sure, man, Are you sure you didn't drive
- 18:56Speaker 10: fast that Wilson market on Bellevue Avenue. I didn't say,
- 18:59Speaker 10: I've never done driven by it, but not on the night.
- 19:01Speaker 10: You said, well, have you driven by it another Night's
- 19:03Speaker 10: I wouldn't remember that. I live out here and I'd
- 19:05Speaker 10: drive down Beltue a lot, but I don't know if
- 19:07Speaker 10: I've ever been by that market.
- 19:09Speaker 4: I suppose I have.
- 19:10Speaker 10: We have your likings number, and the word of two
- 19:12Speaker 10: officers will tell you. I'm fraid they must be mistaken.
- 19:14Speaker 10: You have the word of Benny and Walt. You just
- 19:16Speaker 10: talk to them. I told you I was here on
- 19:18Speaker 10: the night of October third. I stayed here until almost daylight,
- 19:21Speaker 10: talking to Walt. He closed up at two, and sat
- 19:23Speaker 10: around and talked. What'd you say your car was parked
- 19:26Speaker 10: all this time right out in front? Ben Wal told
- 19:29Speaker 10: you that too. I'm telling you I never left this place.
- 19:32Speaker 4: The other night.
- 19:33Speaker 5: Is it possible you could have forgotten.
- 19:35Speaker 10: Not all three of us and you didn't loan your
- 19:37Speaker 10: cart anybody? No, sir, I never loaned my car stayed
- 19:39Speaker 10: right out there in front. What'd you say you did
- 19:41Speaker 10: after this place closed? As I said, I sat around
- 19:44Speaker 10: and talked to Wall he owns the place. What'd you
- 19:47Speaker 10: talk about? Well, I don't know all this, and that
- 19:49Speaker 10: I don't recall exactly. You go to work the following day, Yes,
- 19:53Speaker 10: I did it. It's funny you'd sit up on that
- 19:55Speaker 10: talking and go to work.
- 19:56Speaker 4: I don't have to be to work until I please.
- 19:58Speaker 4: You know my own books. You know, when you run
- 20:01Speaker 4: your business all by yourself. No, I have two secretaries.
- 20:04Speaker 4: They make up.
- 20:04Speaker 10: Checks, keep the books. What kind of business did you
- 20:07Speaker 10: say you were in business management?
- 20:10Speaker 11: You know.
- 20:10Speaker 10: The thing that bothers me is why you're asking me
- 20:12Speaker 10: all these questions. Routine investigation and sound very routine to me.
- 20:16Speaker 10: I don't understand well on an assignment. During the course
- 20:18Speaker 10: of that assignment, it became necessary to interrogate you. I
- 20:21Speaker 10: still don't understand anything else you want to know, No, sir,
- 20:26Speaker 10: I think that pretty well covers it. Something I'd like
- 20:28Speaker 10: to know.
- 20:29Speaker 4: Yeah, is there a law against slowing down in front
- 20:31Speaker 4: of a market?
- 20:36Speaker 7: Ben and I felt that Bingham was lying for some
- 20:38Speaker 7: reason that we were not aware of. All efforts were
- 20:40Speaker 7: made to determine that reason. We made a complete search
- 20:43Speaker 7: of his residents. His relatives, friends, and associates were interrogated.
- 20:47Speaker 7: The two men who had alibied for him were checked out.
- 20:49Speaker 7: No evidence was obtained to connect him in any way
- 20:52Speaker 7: with the Wilson Market burglaries. A surveillance was continued on
- 20:55Speaker 7: the three men. During the next two weeks, another market
- 20:58Speaker 7: was burglarized. None of the three men could have been
- 21:00Speaker 7: involved in any way. Another month went by, the burglaries
- 21:04Speaker 7: continued unchecked. The newspapers had dubbed them the Lightning bandits.
- 21:08Speaker 7: There was only one exception to the title. By this time,
- 21:10Speaker 7: they'd begun to repeat on markets to hit again where
- 21:13Speaker 7: they had burglarized the safe previously. December third, four am,
- 21:18Speaker 7: Ben and I were cruising the central area of the
- 21:19Speaker 7: section not covered by steakhom.
- 21:24Speaker 10: I figured there's only one way to beat this thing. Now,
- 21:26Speaker 10: what's that as for a transfer before they offer us one? Well,
- 21:30Speaker 10: it seems like every way we turned or stopped, no
- 21:32Speaker 10: leads nothing here. It is almost Christmas again. Those markets
- 21:36Speaker 10: these started last Easter.
- 21:37Speaker 12: Yeah, I know.
- 21:39Speaker 4: Now we got everything covered again tonight as best we can.
- 21:41Speaker 10: We could just keep all the markets covered at one time.
- 21:44Speaker 10: Well that's been done a couple of times, you know that.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that. But keep them covered all the time.
- 21:48Speaker 4: Do we get to them? If we had demand far,
- 21:50Speaker 4: we could do it. Yeah, you want to swing in
- 21:53Speaker 4: close to the curb. Here's another market yet see anything? No,
- 22:00Speaker 4: nothing on this side.
- 22:01Speaker 10: We can't see the safe in there, can you No,
- 22:05Speaker 10: those vegetable counters are partially blocking it.
- 22:08Speaker 4: Lights on all.
- 22:13Speaker 10: Yeah, this side's clear to rear of the store, backs
- 22:17Speaker 10: up against that other building, doesn't Yeah, only a front
- 22:20Speaker 10: and side entrance.
- 22:22Speaker 4: They swing around again. Will you make a U Do
- 22:24Speaker 4: you see something?
- 22:24Speaker 10: No, I'm not sure. Just pull back up in front again.
- 22:28Speaker 10: Huh right, okay, this is fine. I want to kill
- 22:35Speaker 10: your engine.
- 22:39Speaker 4: You hear that. I'm not sure. I come on, you
- 22:47Speaker 4: hear it now? Now I stopped. Come on, they're throwing
- 22:56Speaker 4: vegetables at that front window.
- 22:57Speaker 7: I trying to draw our attention here. Now you cover
- 22:59Speaker 7: the side. I'll try to force to you. Right, there's
- 23:01Speaker 7: a news right right, I say it.
- 23:04Speaker 4: All right, you want to shake him down?
- 23:20Speaker 5: All right?
- 23:21Speaker 4: All right, stand still, government, Joe. I'll see if there's
- 23:25Speaker 4: any more besides these two right through tip jaw. We'd
- 23:28Speaker 4: have had a tip. We'd gotten you a long time ago.
- 23:31Speaker 4: That's it, just these two.
- 23:33Speaker 5: Somebody must tip jaw. You couldn't be this lucky.
- 23:36Speaker 4: Why not? You've had your share. The two men were
- 23:42Speaker 4: taken into custody.
- 23:43Speaker 7: Inn were identified as Wilfrid Lawson and Thomas Greenfield.
- 23:46Speaker 4: A check with ON and I showed no previous record
- 23:48Speaker 4: on either man.
- 23:50Speaker 7: After a short interrogation, Wilfrid Lawson admitted his part in
- 23:53Speaker 7: all of the burglaries of the Wilson Brothers markets. He
- 23:55Speaker 7: steadily refused to give us any information as to the
- 23:58Speaker 7: other possible members of the burglary game. Thomas Greenfield was interrogated.
- 24:03Speaker 7: He was the more timid of the two and claimed
- 24:05Speaker 7: that this was the first job he'd been on with Lawson,
- 24:07Speaker 7: that he did not know of any other members of
- 24:09Speaker 7: the gang, that he'd only served as lookout on this
- 24:12Speaker 7: particular burglary, that he was not deeply involved in. Further
- 24:16Speaker 7: investigation of the two suspects, Armstrong and Rubel found that
- 24:19Speaker 7: they had been seen in the company of still another man,
- 24:22Speaker 7: was impossible to get any kind of lead on the
- 24:23Speaker 7: remaining suspect.
- 24:25Speaker 10: We took the matter up with Captain Wisdom. It was
- 24:27Speaker 10: our combined belief that we should allow Thomas Greenfield to
- 24:30Speaker 10: be released on the grounds that we believed this story
- 24:32Speaker 10: about his slight part in the crimes. He was placed
- 24:35Speaker 10: under close twenty four hour surveillance. Thursday, December sixth, two
- 24:39Speaker 10: days after we'd released Thomas Greenfield, we were calling the
- 24:42Speaker 10: Captain Wisdom's office. Yes, we played it the right way,
- 24:47Speaker 10: letting Thomas go. How do you mean, well, first, of all,
- 24:50Speaker 10: we passed one up last October. You remember Bingham guide
- 24:53Speaker 10: driving slow past to market in Nigrok. Yeah, well here's
- 24:56Speaker 10: the one we watched and these two letters both postmarked. Hey,
- 25:00Speaker 10: we picked him up on that mail stop on Lawson?
- 25:03Speaker 10: Really from Thomas? Yeah, a couple of choice parts. Yeah,
- 25:07Speaker 10: listen to this. Client says to tell you he's not
- 25:10Speaker 10: sore anymore. Ever since that mix up him and the
- 25:13Speaker 10: Wall and Benny decided this was the best way to
- 25:16Speaker 10: play it. He says he'd want no part of what's yours.
- 25:20Speaker 10: And then there's a lot more here. Says he'll get
- 25:22Speaker 10: an attorney for Lawson, and he thinks he really put
- 25:26Speaker 10: one over on us.
- 25:27Speaker 4: Anyway, all three of m murnered it all the way.
- 25:28Speaker 10: Well, how does Bingham figure in it? We had him
- 25:31Speaker 10: under surveillance, didn't they you. We'll listen to this from
- 25:33Speaker 10: this other letter they I heard it is. I've been
- 25:39Speaker 10: talking with C. B Clide Bingham getting real clever now
- 25:43Speaker 10: using initials. I've been talking with CB several times only
- 25:47Speaker 10: on the phone. He's really not sore. He only laid
- 25:49Speaker 10: out since that time he figured he might be high.
- 25:53Speaker 4: That's enough, isn't It's all there, dad, Okay, you got
- 25:56Speaker 4: one to roll on? Yeah, go out and pick him up.
- 25:58Speaker 4: This time, we'll keep him.
- 26:07Speaker 5: The story you have just.
- 26:08Speaker 4: Heard was true, only the names were changed to protect
- 26:11Speaker 4: the innocent.
- 26:12Speaker 6: On March twenty, second trial was held in Superior Court,
- 26:15Speaker 6: Department eighty eighth, City and County of Los Angeles, State
- 26:17Speaker 6: of California.
- 26:18Speaker 5: In a moment the results of that trial, all.
- 26:29Speaker 6: Three suspects, Wilfrid George Lawson, Clyde Robert Bingham, and Thomas
- 26:33Speaker 6: Lewell and Greenfield were filed on for burglary in the
- 26:35Speaker 6: second degree.
- 26:36Speaker 4: Wilford G.
- 26:37Speaker 6: Lawson was filed on for twelve counts, Clyde R. Bingham
- 26:40Speaker 6: for six counts, Thomas L. Greenfield for three counts. Sentences
- 26:43Speaker 6: to run consecutively. They are now serving their time in
- 26:46Speaker 6: the state penitentiary. In view of the fact that the
- 26:48Speaker 6: authorities were unable to prove the defendants were armed at
- 26:51Speaker 6: the time of the burglaries and the stores were not inhabited,
- 26:54Speaker 6: they could only be filed on for burglary in the
- 26:56Speaker 6: second degree. Second degree burglary is punishable by a term
- 26:59Speaker 6: of not less than one nor more than fifteen years.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, we wish to gratefully acknowledge the Michael Award,
- 27:07Speaker 3: presented by the Academy of Radio and Television Arts and Sciences.
- 27:11Speaker 3: The Academy voted Dragnet the finest program of its kinds
- 27:15Speaker 3: with deep humility that Dragnet accepts this citation, the highest
- 27:18Speaker 3: award bestowed by the radio and television industries.
- 27:27Speaker 5: You have just heard Dragnet. A series of authentic cases
- 27:30Speaker 5: from official files.
- 27:31Speaker 6: Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police
- 27:34Speaker 6: wh Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.
- 27:36Speaker 12: Day two and for Counterspy next over most NBC stations,
- 27:48Speaker 12: welcome back.
- 27:49Speaker 1: This one was an episode that when you get brought
- 27:52Speaker 1: down to it was about the challenge of conducting an
- 27:56Speaker 1: investigation and the fact that luck plays a role for
- 28:00Speaker 1: both the policeman and the criminals. I should say a
- 28:02Speaker 1: parent look, and this is a case where you have
- 28:06Speaker 1: to admit that the criminals had come up with.
- 28:10Speaker 2: A pretty good method.
- 28:12Speaker 1: As you've got this massive chain of hundreds of stores,
- 28:17Speaker 1: you can't possibly cover them all, and you really can't
- 28:21Speaker 1: predict which one of these two or three hundred stores
- 28:25Speaker 1: the criminals were going to strike at. And then of
- 28:28Speaker 1: course you have a witness who can't identify anybody, and
- 28:31Speaker 1: I sympathize with them, and I sympathize with her as
- 28:35Speaker 1: I listened to her going through the books, It's like, Yeah,
- 28:37Speaker 1: that's me all over. I'm horrible at remembering faces and
- 28:42Speaker 1: what people look like. I'm not quite face blind, which
- 28:46Speaker 1: is a real thing. But if I'm outside of a
- 28:49Speaker 1: store and there are a couple guys in meat department uniforms,
- 28:54Speaker 1: and then I think to tell the police about it later,
- 28:56Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to tell them much
- 28:59Speaker 1: aside from maybe race facial hair. If I ever provided
- 29:06Speaker 1: information that helped the police, it would be some random
- 29:09Speaker 1: thing I noticed, or a couple numbers off a license plate.
- 29:12Speaker 2: But no, nothing like that.
- 29:14Speaker 1: So I understand her point, but again it leaves Friday
- 29:17Speaker 1: and Ramarro in a difficult spot. And this is a
- 29:21Speaker 1: case where you know, you can say different things. You
- 29:25Speaker 1: just got to go out there and work harder, or
- 29:28Speaker 1: you know, you just need a brilliant plan. But that's
- 29:31Speaker 1: not what happens here. Even though there are times in
- 29:35Speaker 1: Dragnet where somebody comes up with a clever idea that
- 29:39Speaker 1: changes things up and goes a little outside the box,
- 29:42Speaker 1: but most of the time the police saw the case
- 29:45Speaker 1: through the marriage of a plan that's worked before in
- 29:50Speaker 1: similar cases to diligence and carrying it out. It's t
- 29:54Speaker 1: that is and difficult, but sometimes it's the only thing
- 29:58Speaker 1: that gets the job done. Or Ben was so tired
- 30:01Speaker 1: of it he was hoping to get reassigned before the
- 30:03Speaker 1: next episode. But thankfully that's where the break came. Listener
- 30:08Speaker 1: comments and feedback and we go to Spotify. We're regarding
- 30:11Speaker 1: the big speech a chameleon of Central Police Headquarters rights
- 30:17Speaker 1: Joe and his mom must be a blast at parties. Well,
- 30:22Speaker 1: I would say that it is possible to be very
- 30:25Speaker 1: serious but to also be able to lighten up and
- 30:29Speaker 1: have a good time. I would say in theory, I
- 30:32Speaker 1: do think that when it comes to Joe Friday, there
- 30:36Speaker 1: is an image that Friday acquired as kind of a
- 30:41Speaker 1: stick in the mud.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Though I would say that in some ways it's a bit.
- 30:47Speaker 1: Similar to Batman, and that he becomes so dedicated to
- 30:53Speaker 1: the job and so married to the job that it
- 30:56Speaker 1: becomes his identity. That may be part of the reason
- 31:02Speaker 1: why there are many people who prefer Adam twelve to
- 31:06Speaker 1: the sixties dragging that Martin Milner as Pete malloy could
- 31:11Speaker 1: be very intense and serious, but he had a lighter side.
- 31:16Speaker 1: He liked to joke around even between calls. He actually
- 31:23Speaker 1: had some relationships as the show went on in a
- 31:28Speaker 1: really good sense of humor. No, I will say that
- 31:31Speaker 1: if I theoretically ended up at a party with the
- 31:35Speaker 1: old Friday and probably end up hanging out with him,
- 31:39Speaker 1: because I'm also bad at parties.
- 31:42Speaker 2: Okay, well, now it's.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and
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- 32:15Speaker 1: But join us back here tomorrow for yours truly. Johnny Dollar, Where.
- 32:20Speaker 2: And what's he doing here? Pullman?
- 32:22Speaker 4: What's there to investigate?
- 32:23Speaker 2: Now?
- 32:23Speaker 9: You may be trying to say I killed off the
- 32:25Speaker 9: herd myself to collect the insurance b said nothing of
- 32:28Speaker 9: the sort, And what's to investigate? I told you I
- 32:30Speaker 9: don't like this, and I'm telling you right to your face.
- 32:33Speaker 4: You shouldn't talk like that. It's the truth.
- 32:36Speaker 9: What do you think you're gonna do around here?
- 32:37Speaker 2: Dollar?
- 32:38Speaker 10: Bye?
- 32:38Speaker 4: Please? Well, that depends mister turmbull.
- 32:40Speaker 9: Does he have to say it's okay pullman before you
- 32:43Speaker 9: can pay my claim?
- 32:43Speaker 2: Yes?
- 32:44Speaker 4: He does.
- 32:45Speaker 9: Well, believe me if I'd known this was the kind
- 32:47Speaker 9: of aut that I was dealing with paying premiums to. Okay,
- 32:53Speaker 9: all right, poke around as much as you want, stay
- 32:56Speaker 9: around as long as you like. We'll bed you down,
- 32:58Speaker 9: we'll feed you, we'll show you what kind of people
- 33:00Speaker 9: we are. Just don't get in my way. I've got
- 33:03Speaker 9: a lot of work to do. And don't tell me
- 33:05Speaker 9: I'm a crook.
- 33:06Speaker 5: Now, let's be reasonable about this.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Me, I'm being reasonable.
- 33:09Speaker 1: You're the one hope you'll be with us then in
- 33:12Speaker 1: the meantime, send your comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives
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- 33:26Speaker 1: Detectives from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham
- 33:31Speaker 1: signing off