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Parul Sood: Auckland Council waste solutions general manager says Oji Fibre Solutions won't affect kerbside recycling · Best of Business

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  Speaker 2: Ever do for ce Ellen.
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  Speaker 3: The Olt paper mill in Penrose is going to close.
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  Speaker 3: It's the latest closure related to energy prices amongst other things,
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  Speaker 3: of course, but it is also and this is important,
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  Speaker 3: the only paper recycling mill in the country for all.
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  Speaker 3: Sued is Deputy Director of Resilience and Infrastructure at Auckland Council,
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  Speaker 3: happeroul Hi. Good to talk to you again. What's going
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  Speaker 3: to happen to Auckland is recycled paper.
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  Speaker 2: So the paper and cardboard that you were putting in
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  Speaker 2: your recycling bill and still date will still continue to
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  Speaker 2: go overseas for recycling because the material that we collect
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  Speaker 2: from your cob side, from domestic properties was not going
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  Speaker 2: to the plant in Auckland.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, so our paper in Auckland was going to
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  Speaker 3: Malaysia anyway, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes to various markets in Asiel because we
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  Speaker 2: sell paper and cardboard as a commodity in the market
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  Speaker 2: and we go for where we get a good price
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  Speaker 2: for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh do we get paid for it?
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  Speaker 2: The absolute recyclables are all treated as commodities, so they're
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  Speaker 2: not just sent there for recycling and they don't charges
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  Speaker 2: for that. We do get a price for it. There
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  Speaker 2: is obviously we need to haul it there, so there
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  Speaker 2: are shipping involved in it, but there is a price
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  Speaker 2: at the end of it in terms of people buying it.
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  Speaker 3: So who does this affect the closure of the OG
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  Speaker 3: paper mill? Is this private companies who were doing their
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  Speaker 3: own recycling of paper.
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  Speaker 2: There are some private companies that would be supplying material
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  Speaker 2: to the ORG plant, but there are other There are
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  Speaker 2: other councils that were providing material to ORG as well.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so potentially other councils that are going to have
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  Speaker 3: to fall into line with Auckland and send it overseas
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  Speaker 3: to Malaysia.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. I think as OGI talks about their arm
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  Speaker 2: that collects paper and cardboard full circle, I think they
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  Speaker 2: call it is going to then send it on to Malaysia,
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  Speaker 2: so they will keep that continuity for service for those
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  Speaker 2: councils and their other clients.
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  Speaker 3: Have you done the maths on whether it is better
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  Speaker 3: for us environmentally to stay that paper on a ship
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  Speaker 3: to Malaysia or stick it in the ground here.
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  Speaker 2: We definitely have done that work, Heather, because we need
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  Speaker 2: to think about the entire life cycle of that product
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  Speaker 2: or the packaging type and what does it mean to
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  Speaker 2: actually make it, use it and then put it in
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  Speaker 2: landfill or actually recycle it even if it has to
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  Speaker 2: be overseas and what does it replace in terms of
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  Speaker 2: virgin material? And if you take all of that into consideration,
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  Speaker 2: it definitely is better to recycle even if it has
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  Speaker 2: to be overseased.
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  Speaker 3: Much better or just a little bit better.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is much better because it is actually replacing
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  Speaker 2: virgin material and it is about closing the loop on
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  Speaker 2: the product as well. I mean, it would be great
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  Speaker 2: if you can do everything here in New Zealand, but
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately that can't happen.
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  Speaker 3: Perul, thank you very much, really appreciate time. Parul's Deputy
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  Speaker 3: Director of Resilience and Infrastructure at Auckland Council.
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