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Braves splash w/Profar, Ippei audio released, Alonso/Jays rumors · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: It's low. It's a low blow. It hurts, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And now you know for those people who was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh man to show, hey was you know doing this?
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  Speaker 1: And that you know this? It wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: All three of us same spot? Todd fother crats. Ron
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  Speaker 3: reminder to everyone today is not the last foul territory
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  Speaker 3: of the week. Why is that?
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  Speaker 4: Because Todd isn't coming to the.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go that's pretty cool man, hundredth annual.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're so much cool about this, Like I
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  Speaker 4: can't stop.
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  Speaker 2: Like, first time streaming live in a hundred years? Is
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  Speaker 2: he gonna have that's incredible? Is he gonna wear a
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  Speaker 2: suit and tie? Like fore mandatory?
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait. Just make sure it's fitting.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want the one he wore back in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and eight when he was trying to get a job.
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  Speaker 2: I want I want one that's cup nice. You know
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  Speaker 2: he's sweating a little bit because it's too tight.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go, you want to would you rather be a
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  Speaker 3: little too tight on the supercrats are a little too loose?
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  Speaker 2: Now too loose? Is I have those loose ones from
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  Speaker 2: back in the day? I call them to Steve Harvey's
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  Speaker 2: I have those.
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  Speaker 4: We're having, We're having, We're having Neil Huntington on. When
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  Speaker 4: I got called up, like the rule was still like
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  Speaker 4: khakis to the field to the field, suits on the planes.
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  Speaker 4: So I got called up. We had like a six
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  Speaker 4: game homestand I went to my guy jose Bank, right
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  Speaker 4: down the street, went up there. I'm like, what, I
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  Speaker 4: get three suits for one hundred and eighty six dollars
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  Speaker 4: again and they can throw in like nine shirts, six ties,
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  Speaker 4: good night. I put those on the other year them
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  Speaker 4: John's looked like and John's looked like nightgowns like Biggie
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  Speaker 4: Small's in a rap video, just like.
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  Speaker 1: It was cool back in nineteen ninety four.
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  Speaker 4: It was cool. I had to get them tailored.
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  Speaker 2: I still kept two of them, and I'm like, why
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  Speaker 2: did I ever wear this?
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  Speaker 1: This was huge on me.
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  Speaker 4: Did you have four buttons or five buttons? Did you
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  Speaker 4: have one of those?
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember. If you want some truth, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking to myself like this crazy. But hey, listen, hundredths
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  Speaker 2: annual first time. It's dreaming. I wish I could go,
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  Speaker 2: But honestly, you guys are gonna have a blast, and
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  Speaker 2: I wish you guys the best.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have a.
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  Speaker 4: Great don't be afraid to put it on at the
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  Speaker 4: at the Punk Tournament.
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  Speaker 1: You got punk, I got the Punk Tournament.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about and it'll be over by then. His
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  Speaker 3: Punkturn will be over probably by the time that we've
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  Speaker 3: got our show.
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  Speaker 4: So then when you leave the place, the establishment that
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  Speaker 4: it's at, make sure all the TVs have the awards.
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  Speaker 4: This is where the big awards.
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  Speaker 3: It be great Todd Father's Punk Tournament. There's some info
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  Speaker 3: if you're looking on the screen, if you're listening to
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  Speaker 3: the pod, will give you more info. At the end
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  Speaker 3: of the pod. Let's get to the news. There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of news. Actually, I was on a flight for
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  Speaker 3: a few hours and I'm like, boom that would lead
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  Speaker 3: off the show. Boom, that would lead off the show boom,
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  Speaker 3: that would lead off the showday. We're gonna start with
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  Speaker 3: the Atlanta Braves charging the mount Jerkson profar three years,
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  Speaker 3: forty two million dollars. It's a good raise from his
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  Speaker 3: one year, one million dollar contract and guarantees that he
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  Speaker 3: signed last offseason with the San Diego Padres, coming off
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  Speaker 3: a year in twenty twenty three where he was cut
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  Speaker 3: by the infamous Colorado Rockies. What a turnaround for Profar.
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  Speaker 3: He was good in twenty twenty two, bad in twenty three,
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  Speaker 3: and he had a career year at this past season,
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  Speaker 3: exit velocity went up about five miles an hour. The
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  Speaker 3: Hammer Territory podcast put out a breaking news show last night,
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  Speaker 3: and I listened to the whole thing and they were
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  Speaker 3: pointing out how sick of a year Profar had. They said,
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  Speaker 3: picking up five miles an hour of exit velocity is
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  Speaker 3: almost like a pitcher picking up three plus miles an
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  Speaker 3: hour of the low. So props to him. He was
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  Speaker 3: on base a ton. What do you think about this
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  Speaker 3: move for the Bravos when Akunya comes back? Todd Father,
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  Speaker 3: you got a Kunya, Michael Harris, Jerkson, Profar in your outfield?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you got Kellenick as the four guy, right, So
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  Speaker 2: that's a pretty good, pretty good outfield, good little depth chart.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think it's a it's a great sign
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  Speaker 2: for him. I don't know about you, because you you're
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  Speaker 2: the numbers guy when it comes to this. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: see this coming this much money, but I did. I
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  Speaker 2: thought he should have gotten a raise, don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm happy for him make as much as you can.
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  Speaker 2: The guy is an absolute stud to do what he
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  Speaker 2: did in Colorado and then all of a sudden take
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  Speaker 2: off on a one year deal. Another guy that said,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I just want to play. I want
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  Speaker 2: to prove myself again one year for a million dollars. Incredible,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm proud of him. You know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: him that well. Every time I saw him, we'd always
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  Speaker 2: you know, give each other love and respect. But for him,
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  Speaker 2: this is the culmination of you know, when he first
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  Speaker 2: came up, another big name, another Little League World Series legend.
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  Speaker 4: You know that's right, Oops, that's right. Oops.
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  Speaker 2: He did it twice though he went you know, he
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  Speaker 2: made it to the championship twice, and you know he
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  Speaker 2: was in you know, he put his name on the
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  Speaker 2: map early in his career, and now he's putting his
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  Speaker 2: name on the map late in his career.
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  Speaker 1: I am on one. I'm sorry, excuse me, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: feeling good.
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  Speaker 3: I just learned Jerkson Profile's entire career timeline with Todd Filer.
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  Speaker 3: But he was supposed to be a superstar crats. Remember
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  Speaker 3: he was famously put ahead of Bryce Harper on some
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  Speaker 3: prospect lists and you know, it never worked out, although
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  Speaker 3: he's been in the league for a minute in a
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  Speaker 3: variety of roles, but we never saw him like we
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  Speaker 3: did last year.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I'm a hater. I was a hater
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  Speaker 4: on him when he got his job last year. I
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  Speaker 4: didn't think he should be out of baseball. But like
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  Speaker 4: the whole one million dollars, Like, people don't understand a
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  Speaker 4: million dollars as a big league contract. Guys that just
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  Speaker 4: get called up are getting seven hundred and twenty thousand.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like it's not like dudes are making five
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  Speaker 4: hundred thousand or two hundred and fifty thousand who are
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  Speaker 4: just getting called up. He was essentially making a first
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  Speaker 4: time call up amount of money, and to then turn
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  Speaker 4: it into what he turned it into. I never saw
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  Speaker 4: it coming. I honestly didn't think I honestly didn't think
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  Speaker 4: the guy was worthy of a big league deal last year,
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  Speaker 4: and he went out and not only proved me wrong,
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  Speaker 4: he had no idea. I was hating on him, but
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  Speaker 4: he proved everybody else wrong too. For the fact that
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  Speaker 4: you can now turn it into forty plus million dollars
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  Speaker 4: a three year deal, you talk about the numbers. I
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  Speaker 4: honestly thought he would be if he was a three
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  Speaker 4: year deal guy. I thought he was going to be
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  Speaker 4: like a you know, an opt out after the first
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  Speaker 4: year type of thing, like prove it one more time.
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  Speaker 4: And he just always been in the big league. So
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  Speaker 4: he's finally culmination of learning what he needs to learn
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  Speaker 4: to take his pitches. He's going into another great lineup.
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  Speaker 4: He's not a marquee guy in a lineup. He's another
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  Speaker 4: He's a piece in a lineup, and I think it's
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  Speaker 4: just gonna help him because he's going to another great team.
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  Speaker 3: There's some more information from David O'Brien from the Athletic
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  Speaker 3: He said they'll have Profar in left field Kelnick, who
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  Speaker 3: lost his spot towards the stretch of the season last
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  Speaker 3: year to Ramon Loreano. He's going to have first DIBs
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  Speaker 3: on right field until Acuna returns. And Profar isn't a
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  Speaker 3: platoon player. As Alexanthopolis said on the call last night,
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  Speaker 3: they've had significant outfield injuries on a season by season basis.
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  Speaker 3: Kelnick can also play center field. He can back up
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  Speaker 3: the corners. He and Brian de la Cruz also have
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  Speaker 3: minor league options. Yeah, I know. And then the Braves
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  Speaker 3: believe that Profar swing adjustments, added leg kick, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: Were big difference makers for him last year, the way
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  Speaker 3: he used his lower half. They think contact, right, walk rate, straight,
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  Speaker 3: got rate, we're always good. Now he's added exit below
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  Speaker 3: and power and that it's sustainable. Someone else brought up
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  Speaker 3: how Alexanthopolis had Josh Donaldson and Jose Bautista up in Toronto.
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  Speaker 3: Both of them had their best work in the second
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  Speaker 3: half of their careers. Right, they had some type of
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  Speaker 3: swing change or lower half change or philosophy change as
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  Speaker 3: far as hitters that took them to an entirely different
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  Speaker 3: level to make them superstar players at one point in
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  Speaker 3: their careers. So he likes these kind of guys.
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  Speaker 4: He sees that value. He sees again Neil Huntington's coming on.
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  Speaker 4: Neil Huntington got rid of Jose Bautista. Hmmm, you know
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  Speaker 4: they didn't see what was coming. But I also think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, different guys hear different things from hitting coaches.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, Jose Bautista heard it from Dwayne Murphy. So
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  Speaker 4: whoever it is for Profar, you hear something different. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know what you have great strike zone discipline. Use it.
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  Speaker 4: That's the biggest thing for me. Use your strike zone discipline.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you take a bunch of pitches. It
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  Speaker 4: means you take an absolute ghetto hack at the ball
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  Speaker 4: that you want before two strikes. And he did that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think there was a day when people
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  Speaker 4: would have been skeptical if a guy raised five miles
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  Speaker 4: per hour on his exit velocity. Like it's not like
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  Speaker 4: dudes just all of a sudden, you know what, I
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  Speaker 4: haven't been in a gym for a little bit. I'm
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  Speaker 4: raise that. So for him to raise you have to
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  Speaker 4: do a significant mechanical change but also a significant approach change.
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  Speaker 4: And he got paid.
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  Speaker 1: God, boss, I'm rood for him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna get twelve million dollars this season and
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  Speaker 3: then fifteen each of the next two years after that.
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  Speaker 3: Remember they traded away Hoorges, so Lair the money on
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  Speaker 3: a per year basis kind of got close there where
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  Speaker 3: it matches up. So Lair wasn't fitting in the Braves
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  Speaker 3: current construction. You can't have Hoorgees, Selair and Marcelos Doon
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  Speaker 3: on the same team. So Lair is a DH on
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  Speaker 3: a playoff contender, which is why I'm still a little
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  Speaker 3: questionable about the Angels move. I love him there, but
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  Speaker 3: I need Mike Trout to get the h time. But
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  Speaker 3: that's another story. Anyway, for the Braves, what's what do
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  Speaker 3: we like right now? Like where do we rank them
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  Speaker 3: and what's next? And I'll give you some context. One
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  Speaker 3: more note from Alex Anthopolis on his call the GM
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  Speaker 3: or President of Baseball Operations. Now, if the Braves said
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  Speaker 3: they have payroll flexibility to add to the rotation and
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  Speaker 3: the bullpen, he said they're not close on a deal.
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  Speaker 3: He made it clear that any starter would have to
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  Speaker 3: make sense for them to block Holmes Anderson, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: So David O'Brien personally said he's guessing that they at
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  Speaker 3: a reliever and no significant, big money starter or mid
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  Speaker 3: level starter. Really with the market the way it is
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  Speaker 3: at this point, AKA, it doesn't sound like the Braves
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  Speaker 3: are suddenly going to sign Jack Flaherty or even a
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  Speaker 3: Lance Lynn type. You know, they're feeling good with Grant Holmes,
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  Speaker 3: who really came out of nowhere last year, and then
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  Speaker 3: Ian Anderson had bounced back, and they have some other
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  Speaker 3: rotation depth too. Guys in the minors, we always talk.
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  Speaker 4: About the Braves always have guys, guys that we don't
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  Speaker 4: even talk about, like dude like Smith Shover when he
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  Speaker 4: came out of nowhere. The other year, Ian Anderson had
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  Speaker 4: huge innings for them in the postseason when they won
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  Speaker 4: the World Series. You hope he bounces back. But the
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  Speaker 4: Braves just have constant depth. Rarely do they have to
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  Speaker 4: go into that Kyle Gibson lance Lynn type of territory.
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  Speaker 4: I thought this year would be a year that they
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  Speaker 4: did because they didn't bring back Charlie Morton. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I just am afraid of a team that is going
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  Speaker 4: to go deep into the season, deep into the postseason,
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't have somebody that's gonna eat innings. And you
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  Speaker 4: can't always ask Look what happened to Bryce Elder All
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  Speaker 4: Star second half kind of fell off. You can't always
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  Speaker 4: ask young guys to come in and say I need
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty innings. You know it's Soroka did
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  Speaker 4: it the other you know a few years ago. Now
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  Speaker 4: it's hard to ask young guys, but they have a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of them, so you got to kind of piece
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  Speaker 4: it together and then a lance Lynn slash slash Kyle
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  Speaker 4: Gibson type. I felt like that's that's the route they
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  Speaker 4: were gonna go. But based on this, maybe not. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's young guys and then Spencer Strider whenever he gets back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do, they're gonna have a solid little club.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't This NL East is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: really tricky because you know, besides the Marlins and Washington,
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  Speaker 2: it's the Mets have really done some damage, good damage
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  Speaker 2: of picking up players. So the Phillies are going to
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  Speaker 2: be there. I want to say something nice about him
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  Speaker 2: since I got Cratzy next to me. I do see
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta fighting for one of those top spots. But I ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: right now, if I had to choose, I would be
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  Speaker 2: in the al least. I would think there were number three,
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  Speaker 2: you know, behind n least or excuse me, and al
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  Speaker 2: least the Phillies and the Mets. So it's your top three,
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  Speaker 2: it would be right now, be Mets, Phillies, and Braves. Okay, wow, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: how about you.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's Phillies. I think it's Phillies, Braves, Mets.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I have it. For regular season, I think,
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  Speaker 3: well that's what I was, That's what I was the
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  Speaker 3: position for the playoffs could look different, but yes, regular season,
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  Speaker 3: I got I got the Mets third. Huh, Phillies braves.
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  Speaker 4: Mets can get a little short in that fourth, fifth starter, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: six seventh inning. I think they're still a little short.
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  Speaker 4: There's time and there's dudes out there. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 4: free agents right now, but I just out there.
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  Speaker 2: I just think they got a good taste last year,
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  Speaker 2: how they came on strong, and they want that more.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying the other two teams don't either, but
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this is like a guys, this is
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  Speaker 2: where we should be. It's time to take off, and
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a year that they kind of
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  Speaker 2: separate themselves from in the in the NL East.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Phillies have a postseason problem with their offense.
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  Speaker 3: I've been talking about this a lot lately. I do,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't care. That doesn't have to do it
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  Speaker 3: the regular season. Their stars are going to be the
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  Speaker 3: crap out of plenty of pitching in the regular season,
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  Speaker 3: and their starting rotation is ridiculous, ridiculous, ridiculous. It's not
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  Speaker 3: getting talked about enough. Right now. We're looking at the
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers and going, oh, they're full of number ones and
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  Speaker 3: aces and all that, but they're not workhorses. The Phillies
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  Speaker 3: guys are mostly workhorses too. Nola posts, Wheeler posts as
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  Speaker 3: far as usually posts, I mean last year he went
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  Speaker 3: through it a little bit right.
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  Speaker 4: Every year he runs into a little something. Okay, he
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  Speaker 4: runs into a little back, a little trap something. One
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: sixty innings a couple of years he should have won
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  Speaker 4: to go glove. He missed it by like qualified. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, he was coming out of the bullpen too,
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  Speaker 4: so he's he's made those adjustments. But Sixto Sanchez, I
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  Speaker 4: mean a six Sanchez, Christopher Sanchez, Christopher's great, Yeah, Christopher's great.
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  Speaker 4: Haysuslizardo obviously he's more of that like dodgers Ilk, where
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  Speaker 4: you're like, hey, if we can get one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: sixty innings out of him, that is elite. Make sure
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  Speaker 4: he's ready. And then they have Andrew Paynterer waiting in
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  Speaker 4: the wings, who was literally untouchable in trades.
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  Speaker 3: He's either the best or probably second best, whatever you
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  Speaker 3: want to call it. Him and Jackson Joe pitching prospects
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  Speaker 3: in the sport right now, Guys who are still prospects,
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  Speaker 3: all right, well, step side. If you're watching somewhere online
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  Speaker 3: and you can comment, then let us know where you
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  Speaker 3: have the top three in the NL East stacked up.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to talk to Oh, there you go. Hammer Territory,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, put out an entire episode on Jerks
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  Speaker 3: and Profi the career year Silver Slugger All Star, appearing
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  Speaker 3: twenty four homers last year the whole deal. Also, they
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: went over his clutch stats which are really good, so
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  Speaker 3: check out their latest episode. It's also in the File
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  Speaker 3: Territory pod feed, YouTube VAM. We're here for a few minutes.
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  Speaker 3: This story alone, would do you know a good segment
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  Speaker 3: for us on a non busy day. Did you guys
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: see Anthony Santander's contract details come out yesterday? So five
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  Speaker 3: years ninety two point five. We talked about it when
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  Speaker 3: it happened. It broke right around when we had the
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  Speaker 3: show a few days ago. Sixty two million dollars deferred
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  Speaker 3: sixty two million, So the actual deal is worth sixty
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  Speaker 3: eight point six million dollars, not ninety two point five
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  Speaker 3: million dollars. Because of the massive amounts of deferrals on
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  Speaker 3: a per year basis meeting, he's actually only about a
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  Speaker 3: fourteen million dollars a year player, So it's a much
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  Speaker 3: lower signing in terms of value for the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 4: Do how do we look at that? Do we look
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  Speaker 4: at this the same way we look at Show, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: Show Hey, show? Him massively defers six hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 4: million dollars of his contract. Yeah, what a great teammate.
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  Speaker 4: All he cares about is winning. He left so much
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  Speaker 4: money on the table. Are we sitting there going doing
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: the same thing with santant Aer?
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm crying like a baby in the corner. When
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: when wha the Dodgers are doing all the deferrals? When
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: when wha? So are the Blue Jays? So are the Nationals?
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Plenty of players have deferrals. It's going to continue to
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: be a popular thing, especially in certain regions where they
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: tax like crazy. This is a way to get around it.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Most of these players can get signing bonuses and deferrals
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: in other places, so they can get around the ridiculous
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: tax rates in some of these places.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Most Venezuelans live in Orlando, in Miami, somewhere in Florida
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: in the offseason, so that's where they're gonna He's gonna
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: live when he's done playing at the end of this contract,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: He's going to get sixty one point seven five million
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: dollars in Orlando.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Correct, dude, there's tons of players. And also we only
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: look at the deferrals, but the signing bonus can do
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: the same thing. Like Manny Machado's recent extension. I mean,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: he got a massive signing bonus. He lives in Florida,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: and I'm just using him as an example because he's
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: a superstar. There are a ton of deals like this,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: So the deferral crying and the signing bonus crying is embarrassing.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: It's part of our game for a long time. You're
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: just hearing more about it because almost every player is
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: getting involved with it because the taxes are ridiculous. This
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: actually helps to counter some of these other states that
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: can make offers to major league players, like a team
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: in Florida or team in Texas, where they have a
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: significant advantage. They might have a fifteen percent advantage on
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: a contract offer because of a crappy tax situation in
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: another state until they switch the rule. This is how
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: it's going to be. But it's not just the Dodgers.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Teams love this. Yeah, and if you ever look into
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: exactly how the Blue Jays pay guys half loonies and
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: toonies half American dollars a little more when the Canadian
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: dollars stronger, Yep, a little less, we'd be talking a
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: little bit more about shading and brading.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: And great for the blue days.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: They have room to spend MOREA.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Wants lunch. We're spreading top eithers like we gott to
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: talk about Pete today.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to be There's some conflicting reports,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: but I'm with.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I'm buying what some of my friends are selling. Andy
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Martino talked about how there's some pretty serious discussions picking
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: up with thet Alanso and the Toronto Blue Jays, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: also Tim Heally, who is going to be the star
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: of the show tomorrow night at the BBW a a
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: awards stop. He's entertaining. He's got Tim.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Good for him. He's going, he's going up in the world.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: He hired name that famous comedians writers to put together script.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I think he did. Yes.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm just gonna say, I feel like these Alanza
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: reports are like deep in discussion other people. No he's not,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah they are. No, he's not. So I don't know
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: where to go. But I don't know where to go
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: with this.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, well I'll give you both sides. Tim Hely said,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Pete's deep in contract talks with the Blue Jays, per source,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: and Alonzo's breakup or he'll only believe it when he
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: sees it, but he thinks it's closer than ever to reality.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: And then Chi DAVIDI and Ben Nicholson Smith Sportsnet said,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: contrary to speculation, Blue Jay's discussions with d Alonzo and
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Max Scherzer not gaining momentum. Industry sources tell Ben Nicholson.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Smith Listen, I hope he's in contract with one of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: these or somebody, because it's I don't care who it is.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Now people are missing out on a really good baseball player,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: A good defender, not a bad defender, A good defender,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: A guy like I said before he led the league
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: in picking baseballs last year, saving his teammates out of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: the dirt. The guy that hits thirty plus home runs
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: a year, a guy that's the average isn't really that
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: bad considering you know where most people's averages are. This
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: guy is a beast. He's fun loving dude. He's gonna
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: wake up any city he's at. And if the Blue
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Jays come and say, boom, this is their awful, we'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: give you. Okay, you got twenty four hours. Most, like
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Del said, I'll go back to the Mets and whomever
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: else and we'll see what Colin wants to do. But
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: somebody needs to start giving this guy a real chance
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: here to get on a team, because it's starting to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: get a little late.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Where it's twenty fourth.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got less than three weeks until pitchers and
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: catchers right here we go.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm down with that. I think to me,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I ask who needs him more? And if it's only
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: if it's only the seven million dollar range more to
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: go to the Jays, I don't think Pete does it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I think he's really looking for that fourth year and
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: maybe like eleven million more, twelve million more to go
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: to the Jays. And the Jays are clearly they're willing
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: to move around there, you know, deferred money, all that stuff,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: move around, all their payroll stuff to be able fit
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: guys in here. They don't need to. They have the cash.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: They have the cash, and he is a game changer.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Whatever you think of his defense, whatever you think of
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: his athleticism or is down year up year, whatever game changer.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: It's thirty five plus homers. And look at what look
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: at what happened just a few years ago when they
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: had Brandon Belled at first base producing a one thirty
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: five ops change. This team changed the team and made
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: him made a playoff team.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Sicilian in the chat said Toronto needs Pete more.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I agree, thank you, Sicilian.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I agree. The Mets need him. The Blue Jays desperately
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: need that kind of thumb the Mets. I really believe.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: That where's where's Laddy gonna go? Though? I know we've
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: talked about this, but.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: He's going to Toronto for one year and then he's
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: promised sure Pete.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: If Pete said they put him at third base.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well you're gonna have a mixture here. You're
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: gonna get some third from Bladdie. You're gonna get some first,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna get some DH.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: A good mixture, you know, giving Pete a little break
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and then give him Bladdy a little break.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Gladdy's not DH. No way in Vladdie's camp. Are you
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: sitting there to me? If he has one hundred and
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: fifty games at third base, Look at what a quote
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: unquote poor defender that plays right field got last year.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: It's all about his hitting. So even if he is
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: a poor third baseman, nobody ever gets good marks at
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: first Look at Christian Walker's like outs above average at
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: first base?
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Is it not good?
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: It's not crazy because you just don't accumulate that many
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: outs above average. Vladimir Guerrera Junior is never going to
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: be Matt Chapman to be. Let's say he let's say
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: he's just a straight average third baseman. An average third
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: baseman that has probably seven more years of potential MVP
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: bat is way more valuable than an average first baseman
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: with or even a blow average first basement, even a
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: little above average first baseman with seven years of potential
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: MVP bat.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, by the way, So Christian
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Walker was one shy of the lead for outs above
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: average with Carlo Santana ahead of him at first base.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: But there's a world of center fielders, shortstops and second
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: basemen ahead of them. Right Their numbers were thirteen and fourteen.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, you had a fifteen, sixteen's eighteens.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Nine and what was Christian Christian Walker's.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Santana was fourteen, Christian Walker was thirteen. Yeah, they don't
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: get the same type of value.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: When you're talking about value that I mean, we were
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: talking about the off season. That's how teams look at it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: What kind of value is this guy bringing as far
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: as first baseman goes Carlo Santana Christian Walker easily. You know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: the best outs above average there, but they're not sniffing
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: what the Blue Jays just picked up with Andre Semenez.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: So for Vladdie's camp, he has to want to play third. Hey,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: you're going to DH today, Vlattie, He's gonna be like,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think so. He wants
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two games, he wants thirty pumps.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: He wants to hit three ten with a four to
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: twenty on base percentage.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: You wanted to get him a few dh DA's just
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: to as a team get off his legs.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a team, I definitely will.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: He'll take a few. It's not gonna make a difference
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: if he takes a few. Didn't Soto do any dhdas
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: He's still young.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't look at I look at
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: it twenty six.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't no more than five for Soto if.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm asking for. I'm just saying, I don't
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: think that's a big deal, and that's going day.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't know, I don't know. I mean
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: to me, I think that number is one fifty if
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you're playing less than one fifty, and if he can
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: play one to fifty out of no.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Dhs, no dh DA's for Soto last year.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: They I just think there is an understanding. John Schneider,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: my good buddy with one hundred percent understand If Laddie said, Poppy,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I've known you since the minor leagues. This is my
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: walk here. You can't take money off my table.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: And to me, Dhing takes money off his table. Now
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: he can play first all year. If they don't get Pete,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: we're kind of making it like Pete's already there. He
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: can make money at first, he canna make way more
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: as a third basement because it's not just awful awful
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: at third. It's not elite, but it's not awful. And
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: if he believes he can be good, I wouldn't bet
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: against him.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Agreed, Toronto, you can make a case, said the best
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: defense in baseball in the past two seasons, they've been
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: that good. So I'm going to say we can take
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: one step back so that we can have thumpers like
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Santander and beat a lot though and they's bounce it out. Okay,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: you need more thump in the Al East. I like
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: the Santander saying, I don't care what he does in
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: years four and five. The Blue Jays need to get
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: back on track now while they've got Laddie and bow
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: for one more season. Are they a World Series looking team? No,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: but I think they at least need to put a
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: playoff contender together. And last year's team was not that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: You looked at that team on paper like this is
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: not a playoff contender, And that's what happened.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: They didn't make the playoffs.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: They did not They finished in last place in the division.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: And it wasn't a lot of additions that they needed.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: They didn't need to make it a lot of additions, right,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: acted Chapman. So they lost that defense. They subtracted Belt,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: which never got a job anyway. That's a whole nuther.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But okay, Santander, Pete, Jeff Hoffman, Andre Semenez, that's
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: a good offseason. We're crapping on some teams doing nothing.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: That would be a really good off season. To Menez
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: is a freaking stud at second base, and he can
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: play shortstop when Bo leaves. Okay, Pete to add to Vladdie,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Bo's gonna bounce back. Bar Show will return at some
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: point this season. Santander is gonna give you, if he's healthy,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: thirty five plus home runs and great clubhouse five. Same
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: with Pete two, the clubhouse boost on top of the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: power plus Hoffman in the bullpen morale. They think is
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: probably more of a short thing than Jordan Romano, who
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: had troublestand on the field lately.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And listen when when things go well, all of a sudden,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the Bob comes back alive a little bit. Oh yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: you want to you know, all of it's contagious. I
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I promise you that hitting is contagious.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: We have a pull up on the chat. What free
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: agent is most likely to not signed by the start
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: of spring training? Bregman, Pete, Alonzo, Max Schurzer, Jack Flaherty.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I voted pick one.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Flaherty, Dick.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I picked Flaherty too, Really I did? I voted already Kai.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: We just had him on the show yesterday. But it's
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: not about who I think should be signed last. It's
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: based on this situation. Pete's been tied to a lot
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: of rumors lately. It sounds like something's going to happen soon, right.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I think Bregman's situation is going to get figured out
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: pretty soon. Max Schurz is an easier case because we
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: know he's signing a one year contract and it's going
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: to be in the eight to fifteen million dollar range
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: depending on how teams are looking at his medicals. Fifteen
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: is the going rate for I feel good about medicals.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: It's an aging vet. It's Alex Cobb, it's Justin Burlander,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: it's Charlie Morton. So that's kind of the cap there,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: and maybe it's you know, a little lower, based on
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: how teams feel about his medicals because he hasn't pitched
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: much lately. Jack's a more complicated case.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: And Jack said it. We heard it from his mouth. Yeah, dog,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: nobody's calling me. They're calling me to see like how
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I'm doing. His words, how are you doing?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's bad, that's bad.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Like, don't call me, don't ask me how I'm.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Doing, because you know what the call is about how
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: are you doing. Oh you don't have anything. Oh, well
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you can come here for a one year deal.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: How are you doing, dude, I'm stressed. I can't believe it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I don't have any offers. We'll take you.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's dirty biz, but he'll get it figured
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: out that. Here's here's one more reason why I think
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Jack fits that list. What happens in spring training more
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: than anything else.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Injuries.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Arm injuries has come back and they fall like flies.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: So you might have one team that loses a couple
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: of star and says, oh crap, and that happens.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: And it's not just Scott saying that there's injuries. Literally,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: the number is like twenty seven percent of arm injuries
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: for pitchers happen in spring training.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's crazy.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Jack should be signed already. If your team really wants
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: to win, they say.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I agree, all right. Uh. Let's also get to a
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: couple of notes. We have a quote here from Chris
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Getz saying, the gem of the White Sox they've done
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: most of the heavy lifting fighting to the roster, possibility
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: for an addition here and there. Most of these teams
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: are waiting for a couple prices to come down and
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: see if they can grab a veteran or two.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Which part of the heavy lifting of the White Sox. Hey,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: they've done more than the Marlins.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I love and the Mariners, I love.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: The son I love Mike Tops, But what is is
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: the heavy lifting? Like the heavy lifting? What do you care?
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: What did they do?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Not sure?
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Were they even involved in a big trade outside of
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: the Garrett Crochet trade like.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: That lifting prospects.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: You did nothing for your big league team exactly, and
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I think you might have set your big league team
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: back because who's gonna eat the innings? You have to
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: lift somebody.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Somebody has to come in and you're in rotating door.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: You're just gonna bring triple A.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, are you struggled next to redouble?
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna redouble down on my on my over under
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: for wins for the toss.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: It's tough, you feel, you know, if you're a play
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: on there, you're great. You're playing in the big leagues.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, it's great. But it's gonna be like, ah,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: here we go again.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: The issue a lot of the issue they had last year,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: where it probably was tough as a player was the
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: bullpen would come in, so yeah, same as the Rockies.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: You'd be like, we got three your on lead. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: don't think it's enough never, and I just think that
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: I think that's where some heavy lifting needs to be done.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Like you still have some big league contracts that need
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: to go to starting pitchers, bullpen guys. Let the position
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: players learn, Let Kyle TiAl come in and catch, let
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: him learn, learn behind Corey Lee or like kind of
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: with Corey Lee, and they eventually take that position.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Over in the weeds. Two hundred thousand dollars for your
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: friend Carlan. Let's talk about Epeman Zuhara's case. So there's
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: some seriousness here, but there's also some ridiculousness. Prosecutors recommend
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: a five year sentence for eBay, the former interpreter for
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Shoho Tani, and seventeen million dollars in restitution. So pay
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: back to a Tani plus a little over one million
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: dollars back to the irs plus a two hundred dollars fine.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I think he can only pay the two hundred dollars fine.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding on that one. I mean, he
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: doesn't have money. He's in debt. Sentencing is February sixth,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: so it's coming up. He already was pleading guilty to
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: bank fraud and filing false tax returns after stealing seventeen
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: mil from Otani. For the people out there that have
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: been the conspiracy theorists, look, I love a good conspiracy theory,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: but this dude stole money from Otani and Otani didn't
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: know about it. He's dumb rich. He's not paying attention
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: to every cent. Look up the hundreds, if not thousands
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: of cases of when this has happened to rock stars,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: music people, actors, athletes, et cetera. We have a little
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: piece of audio from eBay calling Sho Hayes Bank and
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: pretending that he was Shoh giving money to Epay for
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: his two hundred thousand dollars car Loan. So here was
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the audio released yesterday. The Athletic did amazing reporting on this.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Evandralic I think Sam Blom and others involved. But here's
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: the minute clip.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Who am I speaking with? I'll show her o'kanne, thank you?
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: How man I help you?
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: So?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'll try to.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Log into a lone banking and it told me that's
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: not available to me at this time.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: The call sure I can take a look into that already,
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: and could you tell me the name of the payee
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: and the amount of the transaction please?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: What person on YouTube?
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's for two hundred thousand dollars, thank you already. Now,
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: recently we come across the trend of fraud and scams,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: so we had been monitoring the online transactions closely to
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: make sure our clients are not the victim of either.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: What is the reason for this transaction for.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: A car loan?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Okay? You said it's for a car loan? Yep, okay.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: What is your relationship to the paye?
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's work fun.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Shame shameful. Wow, that's bad. It's a lot of money.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: That also was not all going to gambling, because that's
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: the case he's trying to make for a shorter sentence
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: that you know, he was being over worked underpaid. He
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: made eighty K when the Angels first hired him, then
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: bumped it up to two fifty K, and twenty twenty
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: two Dodgers payroll had him at five hundred K. Plus.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Otany gave him a Porsche to drive around as a gift.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Plus Otany was paying him separately on the side as well.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Additional money. He did not just steal money to pay
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: off debt. There was proof of him getting money for
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: dental work sixty g's, among many other personal expenses three
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: hundred twenty five thousand dollars by baseball cards on eBay.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: So we learned a lot in the reporting yesterday.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I don't this is this is low. This is real low.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, man, you can you kind of hear it
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: in his voice a little bit. He sounds kind of
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: nervous doing it. But at the same time, it's you
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: got to remember one thing. Everything is clearly being recorded,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: even when they say please hold well, you're going to
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: be recorded on everything.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: So oh, without a doubt.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: So his call is being recorded because he rang man
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: that is.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Down his own this would this would drive me off
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the roof.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Lucky enough, he's got more money than anybody in the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that I know of, but not it's it's just it's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: it's low.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: It's a low blow.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: It hurts, you know, And now you know for those
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: people who were like, oh man, to show hey, was
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: you know doing this and that you know it this
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: It wasn't it this guy.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: We they got audio on him.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: This is really this hurts because you bring somebody into
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the circle. Man, your inner circles tight, yours is tight,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: so his mind and he must have been part of
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: that inner circle, and he went and did him dirty
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: That's that's unforgivable.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: And the whole argument of didn't make enough, you know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: underpaid the five hundred thousand, we're not even talking about that.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: The eighty thousand, eighty thousand dollars living the big league
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: lifestyle guys have a tough time because they're around so much.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: You're going to nice dinners, you're going to you have
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: to live in Anaheim wherever they lived. It's expensive. The
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: difference is a lot of the not all the interpreters,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: a lot of the interpreters that I know and became
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: friends with. All that stuff was paid for. The eighty
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: was just they pretty much pocketed all eighty thousand.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Right, they pay for your whole life, including as some
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: people are pointing out in the chat, and they're right.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I read the article. So Otani gave him sixty g's
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: to pay for dental work. He then kept that and
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: then used Otani's debit card to pay for this, so
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: he doubled up. He was doing this left and right. Yeah,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't. But that's not your sickness when you're
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: stealing money for everything. The US government said, this is
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: a case of greed and stealing money. So that's where
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the battle is in terms of you know him then
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: putting out his reply to what was going on, he said,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: you know, he was on call twenty four to seven.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Severely underpaid. That was one in there that I think
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: would hurt for most Americans to be able to read,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: like bro severely underpaid.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Can't do that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: That's a tough.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: One, like, especially what's going on in the world.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Exactly, your legal team messed up on that. When we
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: get it. Otani's rich as hell, but like you were
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: getting paid pretty well to be an assistant, you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: like I had to get his mail, I had to
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: do his grocery shopping. Okay, Well, two things. One, you
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: can get help. With the amount of money that you
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: were making, you can hire help. Also, there are tools
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: available like Hungry Root for your personal shopping. I'm serious,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: you can order your groceries. You're making five hundred plus
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: g's with a car and then additional money from your dude.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: You do not have to be hitting up the grocery
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: store yourself. When did he come out with all these quotes?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Was this recently? This was last night? Yeah, that's what
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I only show hope in life while I was gambling
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: from ipis epe excuse me Epay's mouth, that's coming from
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that's coming from his attorney or something. Yeah, you can't there.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: They're trying to play it in a different role, like
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: he was the he was the bad guy. Yeah, n
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: that he wasn't the bad guys.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Just feels maybe. I mean, prison's a big deal, but
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: five years doesn't sound doesn't sound too crazy.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: He's getting deported to although Japan's an awesome country, but
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: he's getting sent back to Japan, I guess after the sentence, So,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, I read everything there was to read about this,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: you know, and he even was putting some things out
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: there in this that I thought was a low blow,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: like getting really specific, like grocery shopping. Okay, I told
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: you how, that's ridiculous, checking mailbox that takes what eight
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: seconds per day? Fixing his bicycle Okay, you can hire
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: someone for that. Accompany him when he went to I
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: guess his hometown to visit his family. That's cool. A
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: lot of people would take that perk take his dog
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: to the vet and to the groomer. Can hire someone
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: to help you with that, or you can do it
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: as a nice friend. It's not like something you're doing
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: every single day. Helping him out with food, okay, dropping
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: them off at dinners and stuff. Can get a car
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: service that you can be with him for. Like, all
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: of these things just sounded ridiculous. And the last one
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: that I hated the most was helped coordinate Japanese and
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: US lawyers for his marriage prenup and attended the meetings.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Did we need you to say that out loud? That's
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: messed up? So anyway, I read a lot here. I
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: wanted to make sure we took some time on this,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: but it's kind of gross. The letter reply was the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: worst part for me, because I get it they have
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: to state their case back and say, hey, I pled guilty.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: But this is why I don't deserve as many months
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: as what the prosecutors are throwing out there. But I'm like,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: there were some things in that letter that were not
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: necessary to point out and I don't think shed better
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: light on you. There were some things where it's like,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I apologize. This is the ultimate shame. There's things in
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: there that you always should say in this case, but
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: some of the other private details were unnecessary and made
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: you sound bougie and greedy.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Not relatable, not relatable, not relatable at all. And the
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: last thing I have to say is if you really
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: do think Show had something to do with all of
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: this gambling and it's like it's a cover up, just
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: go read this stuff. Go read this stuff. This is
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: not a Major League Baseball report. Major League Baseball is
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: not covering anything up for Show. Hey, this is all
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: federal government, nothing to do with major League Baseball.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: That's the last thing, right, This was a federal investigation
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: that sounded like it was pretty easy because there was
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: evidence all over the place to be able to handle this.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: And my last point is that when you talk to
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: most people around the Dodgers, players, front office, people, people
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: that work around the team, they say Otan for the
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: short period of time that they had Otani with Epay,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: he is a different person without him, because EPA was
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: controlling his life and not allowing any access to Otani
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: himself without it going through him. Because even probably covering
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: all this crap up, so it caused a really tough situation,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: and I feel for a player that has to deal
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: with that stuff when he's in another country and it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: not his primary language and someone is just absolutely scamming
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: his life. We can cover one little front office see
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: ownership kind of quote during the break here, since we're
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: going to get into some of this stuff with our
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: next guest. But David Rubinstein, who's the owner of the Orioles,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: he's he's in the media a lot, I think, even
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: as a show. So he was talking about the Os
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the other day, and this was the quote that he
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: told Yahoo Finance. He said, what we have in baseball
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: is a luxury tax. In effect, if you go over
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: with a higher payroll, you have to pay a penalty
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: that goes to other teams. It's not a perfect system,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: it's better than nothing. At some point, I suspect we'll
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: have something close to what the NFL and NBA have
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: no guarantee of that. Later quote. Big city teams have
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: some advantage advantage. Later quote, we have a payroll that
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: is consistent to our needs. I don't think anyone is
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: not playing with the Orioles because of money reasons. The
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: last one was the toughest one for me.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: What The whole thing is just we're not going to
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: get close. We're not going to get close to what
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: the NFL has. He is a new owner. He has
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: not sat in these meetings as far as I know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: unless he was like somebody on some executive board that
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: he was like a guest, you know, to these meetings.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: But he has not sat on these meetings. Oh, you're not.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: This isn't the nineties. We're not we're not getting the
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: salary cap. It's not happening. You've gotten the soft cap.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: You don't want a soft floor, clearly. But the last sentence,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think anyone is not playing with the Orioles
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: because of money reasons. First of all, it's a double negative.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I don't think anyone is not playing. So you can't
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: trust anybody that smiles when they say sorry and uses
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: double negatives. What there's a lot of people that there's
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: a lot of people that would like to play with
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: the Orioles right now. There are free agents that would
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: love to play for this team and hit dingers in
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: the new ports that back in. That's that's a that
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: is a he did not bedfield statement one hundred.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: They have a good squad. Why wouldn't anybody want to
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: play for them? I don't when it comes to yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got to offer more than someone else.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: This has been the money. It is money reasons, money,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it's always money reason.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: They got smashed slash trade deadline and what happened?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: You saw they fizzled? Yeah, fizzle. Yeah.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: They've added a lot of payroll. But I'll still stay
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: on the record here where I give them credit for that.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: But spending money has to be done wisely. And I
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: don't like the moves that they've made.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: No, I don't like it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Good team should be better. All right, let's slap. We
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: got Todd Father's Punk Tournament coming up this weekend. Todd Father. Obviously,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: it all goes to a great cause. We were there
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: last year. We're sending some ft fam there this year,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: hopefully continue the legacy of not winning.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: It was your first year last year.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I know, I know.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: It's great going. As you can see.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: It goes to a good cause with the Children's Specialized
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Hospital for kids with special needs, and it's gonna be
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: another good one. We have almost sold out again. We're
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: waiting on four other teams, which is really good. And
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of prizes, free pizza. The pizzas the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: size of aircrat, So one or two slices, we'll do.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Really, you just cut it in half that yeah, exactly
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: crat size.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And it's gonna be a fun time, less than twenty
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: four hours away, a lot of great sponsors and community
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: effort all around.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna third annual.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Pretty excited again, Yeah exactly, a little pong and then
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: there's a cash bar.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: You can have fun, hang out there as long as
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you want.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: So there were some new details about the robot i'mps
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: coming to spring training, so over sixty percent of spring
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: games are going to feature the automated strike zone. This
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: came out about an hour before the show started. Evondrolic
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: with the report in the Athletic the Diamondbacks get the
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: most ABS usage. They'll get twenty nine games, most in
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: the league.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Boohoo.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Cubs fans only get seven chances to watch the ABS
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: system in the spring training action. Now change wise, this
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: was put out there by the league. They wanted everyone
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: to know that you're going to notice a difference in
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: the zone during particular counts, and some players or coaches
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: or fans might be like, well, the zones the chain
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: the same at all times. Well, no, it's not. If
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: we're going off of research, umpires are supposed to have
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: the same zone at all times, but that doesn't actually happen.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: According to data that the league included in their presentation.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: At the big league level, the human zone on a
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: three to zero count typically measures five hundred and fifty
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: square inches. On a zero to count, the zone is
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: four intred twelve square inches.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Well, zone is supposed to be four.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Forty three, and that's what it's set for the A
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: B S. You're confused, this is angry, is angry about
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: the data?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Terrible?
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: You're just finding out that umpires call.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I had no clue about this. This is
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: this is terrible.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not amazing. I know umpires do it. But
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: here's pretend my notebook strike zone. If it goes off
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: of here, it's a ball, goes off here, anywhere the
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: ball hits on this plate. If this is a plate,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: it's a strike.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Todd fathers, I mean, I don't I don't understand.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: His instructor at an umpire camp.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Let's bring this fire off the plate.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: It's a ball, Todd Todd me major instant reaction to
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: this ridiculous.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Wait, but they're cleaning this up with the A B
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: s because a BS doesn't have feelings of motion.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Or is there going to be an umpire behind the plate? Yes? Yeses,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and he calls it a ball.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Or strike the machine tells him and then to say,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: then that's the result.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I wonder what Joe West was thinking about this, Todd.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: How much did it make you mad when umpire when
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: you were like, that's a ball, that's off, and he
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: goes it was a good pitch, Todd?
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: How much it's a good pitch because catchers like you
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: go let me get the glove on.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: They catch it and go catch let me damn like that,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and they bring it in.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I just saw Salvadore Presidence catching practice, caught it and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: brings it up about a foot.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: It's a ball, You ask him, this.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Is this is?
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: This is ridiculous?
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: What part's ridiculous?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Though? This is good?
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: We're going to fix it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Good that they're they're fixing it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Oh there, I would hope they're fixing.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: If the plate is here, if two vase hitting, if
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: josel two base hitting, that's a strike zone. If areacrats
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: is hitting. This is a strike. That's how it should be.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't this little inches crap, This is boloney.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want to hear it. Sorry,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Whether it's fixing it or not, the strike zone is
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: different for each guy. Okay, get it. It's for this level,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: in and out it's the same. Up and down is different. Okay,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: just make it bigger for bigger people and find out
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: where where that top zone is and bottom zone is.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: The analytical part is just this drives me crazy, man, stupid.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Sorry, but but the human element of judging three oh
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: versus O two is gone.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: That's good, that's great. Yeah, because the umpires they missed
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of calls.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah great, three to oh strike is going to be
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: the same as an O two strike. A three oh
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: ball is going to be the same as a no two.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Balls, So you won't see umpires are just waiting to
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: get buzzed. Yes, don't like it.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I like the human element and I like a player
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: being the head.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Man alf am I lost about Yeah, I don't think
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: you're reading this right.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think so either.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: You like the human element, but this is telling you
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: that the human element is.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't want a buzzer. I want the
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: umbarco strike. But now I got that off. Let me
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: let me look.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, so you want the challenges.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I want the challenges though I don't want I don't,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I don't I want, I want human I want humannature.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Wasn't I wasn't sure where you were going. Now I
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: got you.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I want the ump part to say and ball and
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Eric's like, ah, let me check. Can you check that
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: one for me? I got that one on the knees
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: boom strike.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like the human element part. Man,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: it takes away from the game.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: So they're testing the automated zone so players can get
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: used to that. But ultimately what I predict will happen
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: is in twenty twenty six we will get the automated
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: zone based on a challenge system. So this is to
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: get players comfortable with the fact that the zone's going
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: to be a little different for you in certain instances.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: So let's make sure that we get all the flaws
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: out of the system if there are any concerns and
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: complaints in spring training, and then once we get this
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: data and this feedback in this current sp training in
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. You will see the challenge system Sir,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: I believe that was a ball, not a strike. That's
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: a little bit of this. Yeah, and they go, Mikey,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: are you sure. Aaron Judge is up next, and we
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: only have one challenge left, so if you are wrong,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: we're releasing you.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: No, all good, Oh, you only get a certain amount
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: of challenges and away we go.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be one of the most
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: entertaining additions to the game.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: The fans are gonna be like, oh, just like in tennis,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I love that freaking awesome, and oh it's a ball.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some fans in check. We've all been to playoff
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: games where the pitches off the plate and fans are like.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: You're gonna be at home challenging challenge, you know what
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I mean. It's gonna be more entertaining.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome, though, because I don't can see
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: the zone.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I don't like getting buzzed in. Don't don't buzz. Don't
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: buzz anybody only they don't want buzz is the top
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: of my head sometimes.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: When we're watching TV that we see the zone better
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: than umpires do. Fact or fiction.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Depends on who's watching.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with that. The angles are different at
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: different stadium.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's coming, it's coming this way, and not.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Get enamored with that box.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, boxes and exactly boxes and all be all yeah,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: it's good.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know if we see it differently, sorry, see
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: it better?
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: All right, Well we're gonna find out. I think I'm
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: right most of the time, and so do most fans,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: So challenge systems coming. This is the first step. Great
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: reporting from evandrel in his story and the athletic and
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: ft fam.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: You got a few bonus minutes from us. Happy Friday.
• 51:28
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• 51:30
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• 51:39
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