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- 0:00Speaker 1: As part of our continuing in-depth college football coverage, it's
- 0:04Speaker 1: time for our weekly visit with college football analyst and
- 0:07Speaker 1: former head coach Rick Neuheisel. Brought to you by Taco
- 0:11Speaker 1: Time on your home for college football Saturdays. Sports Radio
- 0:15Speaker 1: 93.3 KJR FM. I don't know.
- 0:21Speaker 2: About this sport you cover, Neuheisel. Really boring on Saturday.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Really humdrum.
- 0:28Speaker 3: You talk about not knowing which way is up. Holy smokes.
- 0:34Speaker 3: This is one of those things where you need something
- 0:37Speaker 3: on the dashboard that tells you which way you're headed
- 0:41Speaker 3: because you can get lost in the clouds in this game.
- 0:44Speaker 3: I promise you.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Who is the best team in college football right now?
- 0:50Speaker 3: Golly. I mean, right now the rankings say Miami, but
- 0:56Speaker 3: they've looked vulnerable. Wake Forest made them look vulnerable. And
- 1:01Speaker 3: certainly Florida State, who's had their share of troubles all
- 1:05Speaker 3: season long, made them look vulnerable. Yeah. Listen, and they're
- 1:10Speaker 3: not getting tested. They're going to have that game against
- 1:13Speaker 3: Notre Dame on November 7th, but they're not getting tested
- 1:16Speaker 3: in that conference like they would if they were in
- 1:18Speaker 3: any of the other three power four conferences. So, yeah,
- 1:22Speaker 3: we can have them as a placeholder, but they still
- 1:26Speaker 3: have to prove it to me.
- 1:28Speaker 2: You know what? The officials have to prove it to
- 1:30Speaker 2: me that Deuce Robinson didn't catch that pass at the
- 1:33Speaker 2: end of that game.
- 1:36Speaker 3: That was maybe the most exasperating thing of the weekend.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Yeah. Even more than BYU-Notre Dame, yeah.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Well, I think we all kind of assumed, because the
- 1:47Speaker 3: play started with four seconds, that probably four seconds elapsed.
- 1:52Speaker 3: And maybe it did or didn't. And I've seen conflicting reports.
- 1:58Speaker 3: But to not in the conversation, I need to go back, Chuck,
- 2:03Speaker 3: because you'll recall the reason we can hear what they're
- 2:07Speaker 3: saying in the replay booth and go to command center
- 2:11Speaker 3: and we get to hear the conversation is two years ago,
- 2:14Speaker 3: Miami won a game against Virginia Tech where Virginia Tech
- 2:19Speaker 3: threw the last second play into the end zone and
- 2:22Speaker 3: they ruled it a touchdown for the Hokies. Then they
- 2:26Speaker 3: went to replay, and there was nothing that was conclusive.
- 2:31Speaker 3: There were no pictures that they ever showed on the
- 2:34Speaker 3: screen that gave us as the viewer any indication that
- 2:39Speaker 3: they could change that call. And yet they came back
- 2:42Speaker 3: and said, after review, ruling on the field is changed.
- 2:47Speaker 3: It is incomplete, and Miami won. That was Cam Ward
- 2:52Speaker 3: as their quarterback, and It was one of those deals
- 2:56Speaker 3: where conspiracy theorists joined arms, right? You know, it was bad.
- 3:04Speaker 3: It was bad. So to calm that firestorm, they said,
- 3:09Speaker 3: we're going to start putting that on air so you
- 3:13Speaker 3: can hear. And it worked beautifully until this weekend. And again,
- 3:18Speaker 3: it was Miami. And they go to that final play
- 3:21Speaker 3: of the game where Deuce Robinson has his hands on
- 3:25Speaker 3: the ball as sure as you and I are talking
- 3:27Speaker 3: right now. And then a DB behind him also has
- 3:30Speaker 3: the ball. They go to the ground. And when they're
- 3:34Speaker 3: foraging to get to the pile, through the pile to
- 3:37Speaker 3: see where the ball is, did you not expect them
- 3:40Speaker 3: to put their hands up and call it a touchdown?
- 3:42Speaker 2: I absolutely did.
- 3:45Speaker 3: And yet they say the game was an interception. We
- 3:50Speaker 3: go to replay, and they never mention the Florida State's
- 3:54Speaker 3: receiver involved in the play. They act as if it
- 3:59Speaker 3: was just a determination whether it was incomplete or an interception,
- 4:03Speaker 3: which wouldn't have mattered. Right. They never talked about the
- 4:07Speaker 3: possibility of simultaneous possession, which goes to the offense.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Well, go back and look at that because it was
- 4:17Speaker 2: in midair, but when they got to the ground, the
- 4:20Speaker 2: Miami defender went to brace himself from his fall and
- 4:24Speaker 2: put both hands off the ball. It was sitting on
- 4:27Speaker 2: his stomach with Deuce Robinson's hands on the ball. I mean,
- 4:32Speaker 2: for them to overturn that is insanity.
- 4:37Speaker 3: Well, it was ridiculous and then some. And to me,
- 4:41Speaker 3: it adds to this theory that we have to protect
- 4:46Speaker 3: our best team. Miami was the best team back in
- 4:49Speaker 3: the Virginia Tech days, and Miami's the best team right now.
- 4:52Speaker 3: They sit atop the rankings in number one, but that
- 4:56Speaker 3: was a sketchy deal. That was the grassy knolls, if
- 5:00Speaker 3: you will.
- 5:02Speaker 2: It didn't help that Michael Irvin went out after the
- 5:04Speaker 2: game was over and made out with the head official
- 5:07Speaker 2: right there in the middle of the field. That didn't
- 5:10Speaker 2: help either.
- 5:12Speaker 3: College football always delivers, and it certainly delivered in spades
- 5:17Speaker 3: on Saturday.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it was exciting from the beginning. I
- 5:20Speaker 2: think I watched 11 straight hours of college football and
- 5:24Speaker 2: turned it off finally at 11 o'clock. And yet there's
- 5:27Speaker 2: still the aggravation. I mean, I was rooting for BYU
- 5:30Speaker 2: over Notre Dame. I don't know the last time I
- 5:32Speaker 2: rooted for Notre Dame. in a football game, but going
- 5:35Speaker 2: back to that game, I mean, it looked like pass
- 5:39Speaker 2: interference and that Notre Dame still had a second left
- 5:43Speaker 2: on the clock.
- 5:45Speaker 3: You were better than I at noticing the clock. I
- 5:48Speaker 3: did not notice the clock until I got up the
- 5:50Speaker 3: next morning and saw that it was, it should have
- 5:52Speaker 3: been another play. But there was no question that it
- 5:56Speaker 3: was grabbing, but here's the, here's the issue. On the
- 5:59Speaker 3: final play of the game, and this is another thing
- 6:01Speaker 3: going back to the game in South Beach, you can't
- 6:06Speaker 3: call holding there. It's just a gentleman's agreement that on
- 6:11Speaker 3: a Hail Mary, you're not calling pass interference and you're
- 6:14Speaker 3: not calling holding. Everybody's going to fight to the finish.
- 6:17Speaker 3: We're going to see how that ball bounces up and
- 6:19Speaker 3: we're going to live with that result. On the play
- 6:22Speaker 3: that happened at the end for Notre Dame, yeah, he
- 6:26Speaker 3: was grabbed. He was, you know, The arms were pinned.
- 6:31Speaker 3: But I still am okay with that if they're going
- 6:34Speaker 3: to let them play on the final play of the game.
- 6:37Speaker 3: I'm okay as long as it's not egregious. And I
- 6:40Speaker 3: know for many it crossed the egregious line. I know
- 6:43Speaker 3: for many it did.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I would have definitely called that. And believe me,
- 6:47Speaker 2: I was not rooting for Notre Dame, but it looked.
- 6:49Speaker 3: And you would have probably called pass interference against Georgia
- 6:54Speaker 3: the week before.
- 6:55Speaker 2: For sure.
- 6:56Speaker 3: In the final... Yeah, exactly.
- 6:57Speaker 2: So do we have an officiating problem? Why is this happening?
- 7:00Speaker 2: Three big calls like this, four big calls like this
- 7:04Speaker 2: in the span of two weeks. What's happening?
- 7:06Speaker 3: Well, I think there are... I don't think we've preached
- 7:11Speaker 3: a philosophy to officials like maybe they do in the
- 7:16Speaker 3: NHL when it's overtime. Rarely in OT do you get
- 7:21Speaker 3: a penalty where someone's got a man advantage. It's just
- 7:26Speaker 3: kind of an unwritten rule. As long as there's not
- 7:30Speaker 3: decapitation or anything of that kind of nature, we're going
- 7:36Speaker 3: to play. You guys decide who wins. And I think
- 7:39Speaker 3: towards the end of the game, there are a number
- 7:41Speaker 3: of officials that grew up with that is their philosophy.
- 7:45Speaker 3: So you see some swallowing of the whistles at game's end.
- 7:49Speaker 3: There are also those that like to be on TV
- 7:54Speaker 3: and just make ridiculous calls at the most egregious time.
- 7:59Speaker 3: I go back, I think it was 2002 or 2003
- 8:01Speaker 3: when Ohio State beat Miami in the Fiesta Bowl. and
- 8:07Speaker 3: that just phantom pass interference call that gave the Buckeyes
- 8:11Speaker 3: another chance. They end up getting into overtime, and they
- 8:16Speaker 3: win the game in overtime. That, to me, should never
- 8:18Speaker 3: have been called, and yet I knew that official, and
- 8:22Speaker 3: I knew that guy from the Big 12, and that
- 8:24Speaker 3: guy was one of those guys who wanted to be
- 8:27Speaker 3: on TV. Their personalities are part of this, just like
- 8:33Speaker 3: they are in players and coaches.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Don't bring that up to Gene this weekend at the
- 8:38Speaker 2: studios of the CBS. He doesn't like that one. He
- 8:41Speaker 2: doesn't like that idea.
- 8:42Speaker 3: He'll push back.
- 8:43Speaker 2: He'll push back.
- 8:44Speaker 3: But he knows that I'm right. He knows that I'm right.
- 8:48Speaker 2: How good is BYU and how good is Kalani Sataki?
- 8:51Speaker 2: Because if, I don't know, maybe BYU is now a
- 8:54Speaker 2: destination place with all the money that they have and
- 8:57Speaker 2: financial support that they have in an NIL period. But
- 9:01Speaker 2: my gosh, that guy's impressive. He'd be at the top
- 9:05Speaker 2: of my list if I'm one of the bigger programs
- 9:07Speaker 2: out there searching for a head coach.
- 9:10Speaker 3: Well, he was the top choice at Penn State. And
- 9:14Speaker 3: the folks, like you mentioned, the resource guys at BYU,
- 9:19Speaker 3: Ryan Smith, who owns both the Utah Jazz and the
- 9:22Speaker 3: Utah Mammoth in the NHL, he came to the fore,
- 9:26Speaker 3: and there are a number of others well-heeled players BYU
- 9:29Speaker 3: guys that said we're not losing Kalani you saw that
- 9:33Speaker 3: they changed who Kalani reports to he now reports to
- 9:37Speaker 3: the president of the university rather than the athletic director
- 9:40Speaker 3: because there was some consternation or the athletic director didn't
- 9:44Speaker 3: want to dedicate all these resources to football and so
- 9:47Speaker 3: they've got that all figured out it was an impressive
- 9:52Speaker 3: win We're not sure how impressive because we're not sure
- 9:56Speaker 3: about Notre Dame. This was really their first test, the Wisconsin.
- 10:00Speaker 3: game was made to look better, but UCLA held the
- 10:04Speaker 3: Badgers to seven points. So I don't know who Notre
- 10:08Speaker 3: Dame is. I don't think any of us do until
- 10:11Speaker 3: maybe Miami gets there on November 7th. They looked the part.
- 10:15Speaker 3: But BYU, to me, I thought this was going to
- 10:19Speaker 3: go to Notre Dame all day long because I didn't
- 10:22Speaker 3: think that Bear Bachmeier could win the game with his arm.
- 10:25Speaker 3: And yet they ran the ball and they did whatever
- 10:28Speaker 3: they wanted against Notre Dame. I know it was a
- 10:31Speaker 3: terrific game, but it wasn't like they were stopped just
- 10:34Speaker 3: because the Irish were in town. And that crowd deserves
- 10:37Speaker 3: an attaboy and then some because that was vintage college football,
- 10:41Speaker 3: the way they were into that game from start to finish.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Rick Neuheisel is with us, our college football analyst from
- 10:48Speaker 2: CBS Sports, and his segment with us every week is
- 10:51Speaker 2: brought to you by Taco Time, also former UW head coach.
- 10:55Speaker 2: And our current, present UW head coach has a decision
- 10:58Speaker 2: to make because he probably got his best quarterback performance
- 11:02Speaker 2: Friday against Purdue from his backup. And the only reason
- 11:06Speaker 2: the backup playing was because the starter was hurt, right?
- 11:09Speaker 2: Starters can't lose their job because of injury, right? So
- 11:12Speaker 2: who starts for UW at quarterback the next time they
- 11:15Speaker 2: play after the bye?
- 11:19Speaker 3: It's got to be Elijah Brown. I don't care. I mean,
- 11:23Speaker 3: he's 21 and 27. I know there were three interceptions,
- 11:26Speaker 3: but some of those could be because he's throwing it
- 11:29Speaker 3: on time and the receiver misread what the coverage is.
- 11:35Speaker 3: All I know, 21-27, what was the other night? 28-39,
- 11:40Speaker 3: and the ball comes out, he doesn't get sacked. I mean,
- 11:46Speaker 3: there is, and Jed Fish is a West Coast offense,
- 11:50Speaker 3: you know, principal, all these NFL pass concepts that require
- 11:53Speaker 3: timing throws and I don't know how you take that
- 11:57Speaker 3: guy out. And this is a problem at Michigan. This
- 12:00Speaker 3: is going to be a problem at Oklahoma. This is
- 12:03Speaker 3: going to be a problem at Texas. You've got a
- 12:05Speaker 3: high-priced quarterback, and he's not the best. And what do
- 12:09Speaker 3: you do? You've got to put the other guy in.
- 12:12Speaker 3: That's the only way to play. But you have now
- 12:15Speaker 3: absolutely taken a huge bite of the hand that feeds you.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Because we're giving all these resources as you've asked, and
- 12:22Speaker 3: you're not using them wisely because the guy that you
- 12:25Speaker 3: said was that valuable isn't even your best guy on
- 12:28Speaker 3: your team. It's a problem. It's what's wrong with college football.
- 12:34Speaker 3: It can't go down this path because coaches need to
- 12:38Speaker 3: show their teams that I'm willing to play the best players.
- 12:42Speaker 3: I can't only play those who are being paid more. Yep.
- 12:47Speaker 3: because that doesn't make sense in a locker room.
- 12:50Speaker 2: And I know a lot of Huskies fans, you know,
- 12:53Speaker 2: we should have never brought him back. I've tried on
- 12:57Speaker 2: our airwaves to defend Jed a little bit on this
- 12:59Speaker 2: because he also sort of had to make a statement.
- 13:03Speaker 2: We can't allow someone to leave us this way when
- 13:06Speaker 2: we've had an agreement. So using hindsight, not using hindsight,
- 13:11Speaker 2: I mean, Was the answer to not bring DeMond back
- 13:17Speaker 2: once he decided he wanted to go somewhere else?
- 13:20Speaker 3: Before I answer that, what was the timing? When did
- 13:23Speaker 3: Elijah Brown join the team?
- 13:26Speaker 2: Oh, that I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I
- 13:28Speaker 2: probably should know that.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Because Elijah Brown was a Stanford kid. He transferred to Washington, right?
- 13:36Speaker 2: Yes.
- 13:37Speaker 3: I don't know that he was on the team last year.
- 13:39Speaker 2: No, he was not. No, I thought you meant this
- 13:42Speaker 2: off season. I thought you were asking for the timing
- 13:44Speaker 2: of this off season.
- 13:45Speaker 3: If he came and there's only one portal. So he
- 13:47Speaker 3: came in that same portal. If you don't know that
- 13:50Speaker 3: you have Elijah Brown and your quarterback's getting ready to
- 13:53Speaker 3: walk out the door and you have no idea if
- 13:55Speaker 3: Elijah Brown's going to assimilate all this information and know
- 13:59Speaker 3: you have to protect your quarterback. I can defend Jed
- 14:02Speaker 3: till the day, uh, to the dawn of time, right?
- 14:06Speaker 3: Because that is your quarterback. You can't let him go.
- 14:09Speaker 3: You got to recruit him. That's the job of the
- 14:11Speaker 3: coach right now is recruit and re-recruit. Now it's also
- 14:16Speaker 3: the job to pay the best player. And Elijah Brown
- 14:18Speaker 3: is getting what Jed is teaching and he's getting it
- 14:22Speaker 3: out of his hand, which protects the offensive line, which
- 14:24Speaker 3: saves the running game, because now you're going to have
- 14:26Speaker 3: to stop those past concepts with two safeties. And when
- 14:30Speaker 3: you play two safeties, your running game comes alive. And
- 14:33Speaker 3: guys like Trey Cooley can have 113 yards rushing, averaging
- 14:37Speaker 3: 14.1 per rush. That happens because you can get it
- 14:41Speaker 3: out of your hand. It all fits together. And DeMond,
- 14:46Speaker 3: I guarantee this has been fantastic for DeMond to watch it.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Whether or not DeMond can beat Elijah Brown and go
- 14:53Speaker 3: out and play like Elijah Brown remains to be seen,
- 14:56Speaker 3: but I'm not taking a hot hand. It's like telling
- 14:59Speaker 3: the guy who's rolling dice in Vegas, And everybody's around
- 15:02Speaker 3: screaming and hooting. He just says, I'm done. No, you're not.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Get back in there. You're rolling. That's exactly what's happening here.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Yeah, great stuff. Rick Neuheisel with us here. for our
- 15:16Speaker 2: weekly segment talking some college football. I'm going to just
- 15:19Speaker 2: zip through. I mean, it's a lighter schedule. I only
- 15:21Speaker 2: got two top 25 matchups to discuss with you here
- 15:25Speaker 2: this week. Ole Miss versus Texas. What's going on with Sark?
- 15:29Speaker 2: Is he losing his grip on this season? Is he
- 15:31Speaker 2: losing grip on his famously named quarterback? I mean, if
- 15:37Speaker 2: I'm a Longhorn fan, I don't feel real good about
- 15:39Speaker 2: this Ole Miss matchup this Saturday.
- 15:42Speaker 3: They are struggling. But if you look at Arch's numbers,
- 15:47Speaker 3: he was 14 of 20. That's 70%. The question is,
- 15:51Speaker 3: is he processing the information and making the right decision
- 15:55Speaker 3: on every throw? You're not going to hit them all,
- 15:58Speaker 3: but if you're making the right decision and your feet
- 16:01Speaker 3: are timed up with your eyes, meaning that you're throwing
- 16:05Speaker 3: it at the appropriate time, then you can live with
- 16:09Speaker 3: the results. But that's not the case. It's not being
- 16:12Speaker 3: processed quickly. He's not taking the appropriate throw. There's too
- 16:16Speaker 3: often times where he's forcing things down the field and
- 16:20Speaker 3: throwing it to a person rather than to a position
- 16:23Speaker 3: based on what the defense is giving him. That's got
- 16:26Speaker 3: to get fixed. And a running game's got to happen.
- 16:30Speaker 3: And Arches, I mean, last year he scored 10 touchdowns
- 16:33Speaker 3: with his legs, zero this year. So there's lots of
- 16:37Speaker 3: things to be evaluated, which is exactly the way Sark
- 16:40Speaker 3: put it. Everything is under evaluation. Maybe the bigger issue
- 16:45Speaker 3: is that star defensive end is not available this week.
- 16:50Speaker 3: And here comes Trinidad and Chambliss, and that's not a
- 16:55Speaker 3: good equation if there's not a pass rush on that kid.
- 16:58Speaker 3: He's lethal.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Utah versus Houston. Who do you like?
- 17:06Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to take Utah just because I
- 17:12Speaker 3: trust a quarterback that can run. But I will tell
- 17:15Speaker 3: you that Connor Wegman is a live wire with his
- 17:19Speaker 3: legs as well. And I'm sitting here thinking about Haynes
- 17:23Speaker 3: King was the ACC quarterback, first team quarterback last year.
- 17:27Speaker 3: He's former Texas A & M Aggie. Connor Wegman has
- 17:30Speaker 3: 20 touchdowns and just two interceptions this year, former Texas
- 17:34Speaker 3: A & M Aggie, and they can't make a first
- 17:37Speaker 3: down in College Station with Marcel Reed. I'm just saying,
- 17:41Speaker 3: be careful what you dispatch with a quarterback. Oklahoma can't
- 17:45Speaker 3: get anything out of John Materi. He's done, I think,
- 17:48Speaker 3: three or four interceptions this last week against Kentucky, and
- 17:52Speaker 3: there's Michael Hawkins for West Virginia with 10 touchdowns and
- 17:55Speaker 3: one pick, and he was at Oklahoma. It's incredible what's
- 18:00Speaker 3: happening right now around the country.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. A lot to discuss. And do you
- 18:05Speaker 2: have a taco time pick of the week?
- 18:09Speaker 3: I'm going with South Carolina to take down Tennessee. They're
- 18:14Speaker 3: still wafting in cigar smoke in Knoxville. They're going to
- 18:17Speaker 3: be all excited about their team. And, you know, George McIntyre,
- 18:22Speaker 3: their little freshman quarterback, shouldn't say literally 6'4, 6'5. But
- 18:27Speaker 3: I will say this. They're going to be emotionally a
- 18:31Speaker 3: little bit less amped than they were in Rocky Top
- 18:35Speaker 3: when Alabama got there, and that won't be the case
- 18:38Speaker 3: for South Carolina. They had that big win against Florida.
- 18:41Speaker 3: They had a week off to get healthy. I'm going
- 18:44Speaker 3: to say that Shane Beamer gets the Gamecocks up and going,
- 18:47Speaker 3: and they'll get the volunteers this Saturday.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Finally, in our last minute, and we'll have time to
- 18:53Speaker 2: discuss this more at a future date, but it was
- 18:56Speaker 2: big news this past week, and so I need like
- 18:58Speaker 2: a 60-second answer from you. I think of you as
- 19:01Speaker 2: you're like a 10 on my scale, like 1 to
- 19:04Speaker 2: 10 favorite football analysts out there. So please don't tarnish
- 19:08Speaker 2: that and tell me that you want a 24-team college
- 19:11Speaker 2: football playoff.
- 19:15Speaker 3: You have to understand why you need a 24-team college playoff.
- 19:18Speaker 3: football playoff. You have to understand why. And this is it.
- 19:22Speaker 3: These presidents, these athletic directors, they all realize they have to,
- 19:32Speaker 3: if they're going to get the money to pay these
- 19:34Speaker 3: kids under the current system, they have to have more access.
- 19:40Speaker 3: They can't get as many yes answers if the team
- 19:43Speaker 3: can't make it to the dance. And if we have
- 19:47Speaker 3: more slots, Now I can be more... convincing that this
- 19:51Speaker 3: is possible with your help. And that is why they
- 19:55Speaker 3: all push so hard for it. Will it be great
- 19:57Speaker 3: for college football? Anybody's guess. But the bottom line is
- 20:02Speaker 3: the answer is money. And what was the question? I mean,
- 20:08Speaker 3: at the end of the day is why we're doing it.
- 20:10Speaker 3: Television is willing to pay for it. And it doesn't,
- 20:15Speaker 3: if you look and pull up who the matchups would
- 20:18Speaker 3: be based on the top 24 and this week's AP rankings,
- 20:22Speaker 3: you'll sit there and go, you know what? That's going
- 20:24Speaker 3: to be fun. That'll be fun. I don't like it
- 20:27Speaker 3: because I don't want any destabilization of the regular season,
- 20:32Speaker 3: but I do understand access, based on how we're creating
- 20:37Speaker 3: our revenue for these particular teams and building rosters that
- 20:41Speaker 3: can be competitive. You have to have access.
- 20:44Speaker 2: You know, being a nine and a half and another
- 20:46Speaker 2: person's eyes is still a really good thing.
- 20:53Speaker 3: Disney, I don't like it. Get me back.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Up a little bit.
- 20:59Speaker 3: All right.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk more about that at a later time.
- 21:01Speaker 2: But enjoy the college football weekend, and we will talk
- 21:05Speaker 2: to you next Tuesday.
- 21:08Speaker 3: I appreciate it, pal. Enjoy. All right.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Rick Neuheisel joining us. That segment blew your hair back.
- 21:14Speaker 2: There was so much to discuss right there. Oh, my gosh.
- 21:17Speaker 2: A lot to discuss. Great opinions from Coach. All right.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Coming up next on the program, I know you're a
- 21:23Speaker 2: little parched right now. You've got a thirst. You've got
- 21:26Speaker 2: a thirst. You've got a thirst for Anders Hurst. Sports
- 21:29Speaker 2: Radio 93.3, KJRFM. Oh, that'll dry you out faster than anything. Coffee.
- 21:35Speaker 2: That's true. You've got to chase it with some water.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Good point.
- 21:38Speaker 4: All right, what do you got today? Let's start off
- 21:41Speaker 4: with the Seahawks. And Greg mentioned it earlier, the Seahawks
- 21:44Speaker 4: have only made the Super Bowl as the No. 1
- 21:46Speaker 4: seed with home field advantage. But I don't believe it's
- 21:51Speaker 4: division or bust for this team to repeat. So even
- 21:54Speaker 4: though I am more convinced than you are that the
- 21:56Speaker 4: 49ers will win the division, I don't think all is
- 21:59Speaker 4: lost if this team is a wildcard team. They have
- 22:02Speaker 4: proven much more able to win on the road under
- 22:05Speaker 4: Mike McDonald. And as long as you are playing the
- 22:09Speaker 4: type of football that needs to be Mike McDonald football
- 22:13Speaker 4: that we know by the end of the year, I
- 22:16Speaker 4: still believe this team should be favored in almost any matchup.
- 22:19Speaker 4: uh if it comes to that point by the end
- 22:21Speaker 4: of the year yeah i.
- 22:22Speaker 2: I'm with you entirely i don't think this is the
- 22:24Speaker 2: same old seahawks that have to have home field advantage
- 22:28Speaker 2: to win in the playoffs and believe me last year
- 22:30Speaker 2: we could have faced the san francisco 49ers and kyle
- 22:33Speaker 2: shanahan's backyard i mean mike shanahan could have been the
- 22:37Speaker 2: head official and ed mccaffrey could have been the line
- 22:39Speaker 2: judge and we would have still beaten that's how big
- 22:43Speaker 2: of a mismatch it was by years in so uh
- 22:46Speaker 2: yeah i'm uh i'm with you i i'd look i
- 22:49Speaker 2: still think 49ers are probably going to win the division
- 22:51Speaker 2: it's kind of hard not to look at that math
- 22:53Speaker 2: and say that i just as you said i'm not
- 22:55Speaker 2: as convinced as you are i don't think that it's
- 22:57Speaker 2: impossible to catch them and even if you don't catch
- 23:00Speaker 2: them that's okay all that matters is that you're better
- 23:02Speaker 2: than them when it matters most and i still think
- 23:04Speaker 2: that that will be the case so i'm satisfied yeah
- 23:07Speaker 2: yeah you wet my lips on that.
- 23:09Speaker 4: One i am i hear you but i also think
- 23:12Speaker 4: This team, their first year, they didn't make it. Their
- 23:14Speaker 4: second year, they have the huge breakthrough. They win the conference.
- 23:18Speaker 4: They win the division. They have home-fit advantage. So they've
- 23:21Speaker 4: never been tested in a playoff situation where they have
- 23:25Speaker 4: to win. Granted, they do it in the regular season.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I mean, it wasn't a road game.
- 23:31Speaker 4: I hear you, but even then, they haven't been tested yet.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Not saying that they won't win the game. Hostile environment
- 23:37Speaker 4: sort of thing. I don't even want to say that.
- 23:39Speaker 4: It's just a different environment for a team that didn't
- 23:41Speaker 4: make the playoffs the next year, ran house, did what
- 23:44Speaker 4: they needed to do, earned home field advantage. They've just
- 23:47Speaker 4: never been in a situation where, all right, guys, this
- 23:50Speaker 4: is the cards we're dealt.
- 23:51Speaker 2: And that year could be this year, to your point.
- 23:53Speaker 2: And then they prove it.
- 23:54Speaker 4: But even then, that's kind of like, okay, now you're
- 23:56Speaker 4: relying on Sam Donald to play non-turnover football, right? Yeah,
- 24:00Speaker 4: but that's obviously the qualifiers, that if you're playing the
- 24:03Speaker 4: type of football by the end of the year that
- 24:05Speaker 4: we know the Seahawks can play, That doesn't matter if
- 24:09Speaker 4: you've lost home field advantage and you're a wildcard team
- 24:12Speaker 4: and you have to go on the road. I just
- 24:14Speaker 4: don't think this thought of, oh, if we don't win
- 24:15Speaker 4: the division, we're screwed. We're not repeating the Super Bowl champions.
- 24:19Speaker 4: I will say, I think it just becomes a little
- 24:22Speaker 4: more of a challenge.
- 24:22Speaker 2: It does. A lot more, actually.
- 24:24Speaker 4: I think this team, more than probably the Pete Carroll teams,
- 24:26Speaker 4: to be completely honest. I would say the defense, I'm
- 24:29Speaker 4: not worried about at all, pretty much. But it's the
- 24:31Speaker 4: other side of the ball where it's like, yeah, the
- 24:33Speaker 4: defense can give up 10 points, but are you confident
- 24:35Speaker 4: that they're going to score 13 offensively?
- 24:37Speaker 2: And now you're going to be like, eh. And what
- 24:40Speaker 2: home field advantage would you even be scared of? Probably none.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Other than maybe Green Bay?
- 24:47Speaker 1: Okay.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Probably not even Green Bay. It's just cold as hell. No,
- 24:51Speaker 2: but that's a reason. That's a reason. If you're not
- 24:54Speaker 2: used to playing in it, that's a reason. Maybe Chicago,
- 24:57Speaker 2: but I'm not. San Francisco? The Rams? No. And then
- 25:01Speaker 2: NFC South's going to have a mediocre team, and the
- 25:04Speaker 2: NFC East champion's going to be a mediocre team.
- 25:06Speaker 4: Yeah, the only one I'd actually be afraid of is
- 25:07Speaker 4: probably the Chiefs, but they're in the AFC, so it
- 25:09Speaker 4: doesn't matter.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 25:11Speaker 4: So that's just my thought. I do think it's more
- 25:15Speaker 4: likely that the Niners win the division, but I don't
- 25:17Speaker 4: think that's the... Worst thing in the world for the Seahawks.
- 25:20Speaker 2: Moving on to K-9. Everyone's talking about this game.
- 25:23Speaker 4: As a revenge game for Kenneth Walker, whether it's the
- 25:26Speaker 4: Seattle media, national media. We overlooked him. We let him
- 25:29Speaker 4: walk in free agency. I also think this is a
- 25:33Speaker 4: revenge game of sorts for the Seahawks. It won't completely
- 25:37Speaker 4: change the narrative in one game, but this is their
- 25:40Speaker 4: first chance to at least change the tune on if
- 25:43Speaker 4: they made the right decision or not. If they shut
- 25:45Speaker 4: him down and are able to get some sort of
- 25:47Speaker 4: running game on their own, probably be the first game,
- 25:49Speaker 4: as we heard from Greg, that Zach Charbonnet is back
- 25:52Speaker 4: and and win this game, it could go a long
- 25:54Speaker 4: way into getting some of the haters off their back,
- 25:58Speaker 4: at least in changing the tune of the narrative that, yeah,
- 26:02Speaker 4: the Seahawks screwed up in letting Ken Walker walk.
- 26:08Speaker 2: I don't know. Leaves me a little thirsty. And here's why.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Because I don't think it's a revenge game for either team.
- 26:16Speaker 2: I don't think that there's any way the Seahawks can
- 26:18Speaker 2: treat it as a revenge game. Ken Walker didn't do
- 26:20Speaker 2: anything wrong. And I don't understand why Ken Walker would
- 26:24Speaker 2: treat it as a revenge game. You were treated pretty
- 26:27Speaker 2: well here. You had a really good run. You won
- 26:30Speaker 2: a championship. You won Super Bowl MVP. Okay, you took
- 26:34Speaker 2: the better offer. You took the higher offer, which you
- 26:37Speaker 2: earned in free agency. So I don't know why even
- 26:40Speaker 2: he would look at his revenge game. I think it's
- 26:43Speaker 2: just a Sunday Night Football game where Ken Walker's going
- 26:47Speaker 2: back to his old neighborhood... to play football. And certainly
- 26:51Speaker 2: he wants to show out. Yeah. Yeah, I guarantee you that.
- 26:53Speaker 2: But who doesn't? When you go back to your old
- 26:55Speaker 2: buddies and you try to beat them. Yeah, maybe revenge
- 26:59Speaker 2: game is not the term.
- 27:01Speaker 4: A lot of people are using that term. Yeah, but it's...
- 27:03Speaker 4: Maybe a poet. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking of.
- 27:06Speaker 4: Because the Seahawks clearly didn't believe he could be a...
- 27:08Speaker 4: 25 carry guy the chiefs are like you're kidding me
- 27:12Speaker 4: true so for him it's thinking i can you guys
- 27:15Speaker 4: didn't give me 25 carries well watch these 25 i'm
- 27:18Speaker 4: a get and i'm gonna go over 100 for the
- 27:20Speaker 4: first time in two years yeah and i'm gonna score
- 27:21Speaker 4: some tds on you guys and we're gonna walk out
- 27:23Speaker 4: of there with a w or the seahawks can prove
- 27:25Speaker 4: hey we can stop you like we don't believe you're
- 27:28Speaker 4: that guy our our defense can.
- 27:30Speaker 2: Shut you down run defense too yeah exactly hey coach
- 27:33Speaker 2: mctown look what i can do Hey, John, John, John, John, John.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Look what I can do. Maybe we'll get a lot
- 27:40Speaker 2: of that. Did you see my 80-yard scamper for a touchdown?
- 27:43Speaker 2: Didn't even get touched. Is that how it talks? I
- 27:45Speaker 2: told you I could do this. I thought you had
- 27:46Speaker 2: Rick Woolen out there. Oh, no. All right, moving on.
- 27:50Speaker 4: Mariners now. Jim Bowden put out a tweet this morning.
- 27:54Speaker 4: Just a little update on the managerial search. The Mariners
- 27:57Speaker 4: continue to stay under the radar with the managerial search,
- 27:59Speaker 4: but they're making progress. and are hoping to finish the
- 28:03Speaker 4: process by the end of the month. So this would
- 28:05Speaker 4: go along with your timeline as well. They're hoping to
- 28:08Speaker 4: get their finalists, but mid to late next week, according
- 28:11Speaker 4: to sources familiar with the process. So are you at
- 28:15Speaker 4: all surprised that they're trying to get this done before
- 28:18Speaker 4: the CBA?
- 28:18Speaker 2: They have to. I mean, there's not even a debate.
- 28:21Speaker 2: I mean— I get they're going to wait until the
- 28:24Speaker 2: end of the World Series. They may have wanted to
- 28:26Speaker 2: talk to Vogt. They may want to talk to Kevin Cash.
- 28:28Speaker 2: Who knows? But there is no way. We're going to
- 28:32Speaker 2: have a lockout, and that's going to start on December 2nd. Now,
- 28:36Speaker 2: you do have until spring training to get that agreement reached,
- 28:41Speaker 2: but there's only one thing that you're going to be
- 28:44Speaker 2: able to do If there's one thing that you need
- 28:47Speaker 2: to have done by then, it is have your manager
- 28:50Speaker 2: because you will be frozen from doing anything acquisition-wise. But
- 28:57Speaker 2: if you hire your manager, he can spend his entire
- 29:00Speaker 2: winter because the deal's done. Right. looking at film of
- 29:05Speaker 2: the players he's getting ready to. He can work. He
- 29:08Speaker 2: can actually work, and he's going to want to work
- 29:10Speaker 2: on his own. He's not going to say, nah, I
- 29:12Speaker 2: didn't take a look at Raleigh. I don't care. I
- 29:15Speaker 2: can wing it.
- 29:15Speaker 3: We were in a lockout.
- 29:16Speaker 2: I wasn't getting paid. So, no thank you. Yeah, and
- 29:21Speaker 2: that's only the players that don't get paid. He could
- 29:23Speaker 2: still get paid, right? Yeah. Well, I don't know. I
- 29:26Speaker 2: really don't know how that works. I don't know either.
- 29:28Speaker 2: That's why I'm curious. But my point is that there's...
- 29:31Speaker 2: No way that he wouldn't dive into getting to know
- 29:34Speaker 2: this entire roster back and forth. So you have to
- 29:38Speaker 2: hire your manager before the lock. before December 2nd.
- 29:41Speaker 4: Getting your family settled. You have almost a kind of
- 29:44Speaker 4: blessing in disguise, I could say, if this lockout ends
- 29:48Speaker 4: up kind of lingering because, you know, coaches that get
- 29:50Speaker 4: hired right after another job have to quickly move over
- 29:54Speaker 4: and adjust and all of a sudden it's spring training again.
- 29:56Speaker 4: Versus if this kind of lingers a little bit, you
- 29:58Speaker 4: get some time to adjust to a new place. Like
- 30:00Speaker 4: you said, figure out a lot of your players that
- 30:02Speaker 4: you have, what your kind of thought process is going
- 30:05Speaker 4: to be in building a contending team. So I think this,
- 30:08Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think it needs to happen
- 30:10Speaker 4: before the CBA.
- 30:10Speaker 2: All right. Yeah. Okay. Are we, are we, are we quenched?
- 30:15Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, you agreed with my idea,
- 30:19Speaker 2: of course. What was I going to say? No, I
- 30:22Speaker 2: don't know. No, yeah.
- 30:24Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 30:25Speaker 2: I sounded a little wishy-washy on that. I don't know
- 30:28Speaker 2: if you should have agreed with that or not. Yeah, well,
- 30:33Speaker 2: turns out sometimes we do agree. Is that it? More
- 30:36Speaker 2: often than not, actually, yeah. Okay. All right. There you go.
- 30:39Speaker 2: You have maybe satisfied your thirst. Your thirst. Your thirst
- 30:43Speaker 2: for Andrews Hearst. We close it out with one last
- 30:45Speaker 2: thing next on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. All right, coming
- 31:00Speaker 2: up next, Greg Bell and Jessamyn McIntyre coming your way
- 31:03Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. We close out our
- 31:06Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of Chuck in the Mornings with one last thing. And, man,
- 31:11Speaker 2: there was a lot of ground we covered today. Lots
- 31:13Speaker 2: of stuff. Our guests had a lot to say today,
- 31:15Speaker 2: a lot of very interesting things to say today. Anders,
- 31:19Speaker 2: have something interesting to say to close out our show. Yeah, well,
- 31:21Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys caught yesterday.
- 31:24Speaker 4: Saw on social media that uh during the game six
- 31:27Speaker 4: the ALCS um as the Rays punched their ticket to
- 31:30Speaker 4: the World Series there was someone in the stands you
- 31:33Speaker 4: know when you're at a Mariners game and they have
- 31:35Speaker 4: the like the um birthdays and anniversaries and messages that
- 31:38Speaker 4: they put up in the middle of the inning apparently
- 31:40Speaker 4: someone put up a message on the board saying uh
- 31:44Speaker 4: at the at the Rays game Derek thank you for
- 31:46Speaker 4: the tickets I'm sorry but I think we should stay
- 31:48Speaker 4: just friends So this guy, Derek, stuck in the friend
- 31:54Speaker 4: zone now after taking someone he wanted to be more
- 31:58Speaker 4: than in the friend zone with to ALCS game six
- 32:02Speaker 4: in Tampa.
- 32:02Speaker 3: Wow.
- 32:03Speaker 2: And that's how he finds out that he should be
- 32:07Speaker 2: staying friends. OK, was it a real note or was
- 32:09Speaker 2: it the PR staff thought it would be funny and
- 32:11Speaker 2: people would get a laugh? I guess we don't know. Okay,
- 32:14Speaker 2: all right. I didn't know if there was like a
- 32:16Speaker 2: Derek follow-up or something like that. I haven't seen it.
- 32:18Speaker 2: My guess it's a PR. You think so? Yeah, the
- 32:20Speaker 2: PR staff thought it would be funny to put that
- 32:22Speaker 2: up there. Let's get viral sort of situation. Yeah, yeah.
- 32:26Speaker 2: Because that would get attention. You have to be really
- 32:28Speaker 2: cruel to send that message to the big screen. I mean,
- 32:32Speaker 2: it is Tampa.
- 32:35Speaker 3: That is true.
- 32:37Speaker 2: I mean, it's Tampa. It could have been sent from
- 32:39Speaker 2: brother to sister. Let's be honest.
- 32:45Speaker 4: Regardless, I'm going to take this at face value. Let's
- 32:49Speaker 4: pull one out for Derek.
- 32:51Speaker 2: Derek, thanks for the tickets. I appreciate it. But I
- 32:53Speaker 2: don't think that with you being my brother and all,
- 32:56Speaker 2: that we should hook up.
- 32:59Speaker 4: The replies to the tweet that originally posted it are
- 33:03Speaker 4: just fantastic. Friendzone on the Jumbotron after buying playoff tickets?
- 33:07Speaker 2: Right. Worse than getting swept. Damn. all right kid what
- 33:12Speaker 2: do you got for your one last thing so it
- 33:14Speaker 2: is ken walker week and i found this video from
- 33:17Speaker 2: last year and it sums up mike mcdonald just having
- 33:21Speaker 2: a conversation with canine about his carries okay ken is
- 33:25Speaker 2: putting on a clinic this drive get him out thanks
- 33:28Speaker 2: for getting us those 95 yards but you just sit
- 33:31Speaker 2: right there on the bench for us thanks holy five
- 33:34Speaker 2: carries three catches for 30 yards We're going to let
- 33:38Speaker 2: Zach punch it in from the tube, though. Touchdowns. You
- 33:41Speaker 2: don't need touchdowns, Kevin. That's what we got, Zach. There
- 33:46Speaker 2: it is. As an owner of Kenneth Walker and Fantasy,
- 33:49Speaker 2: that hits a little too close to home. So, yeah,
- 33:51Speaker 2: that has been on my mind. I'm like, that's the
- 33:53Speaker 2: perfect video. It is. What do you need Zach for?
- 33:55Speaker 2: Where did you find that? It was on TikTok. Oh, okay.
- 33:58Speaker 4: I found it last year, and I was like, I
- 33:59Speaker 4: got to find it again because it sums up everything perfectly.
- 34:03Speaker 4: You could say the same thing about J.D. Price before.
- 34:06Speaker 4: Before he started fumbling the ball because he was doing well.
- 34:08Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, once you get to
- 34:09Speaker 4: the red zone, let's give it to Manuel Wills.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Thanks for catching those passes and getting us to the
- 34:13Speaker 2: goal line. We're going to get Zach Charbonnet in the
- 34:16Speaker 2: game here. Sounds like they were both trying to call
- 34:19Speaker 2: to leave ransom demands. It sounded like the guy from
- 34:24Speaker 2: South Park. It does. It totally sounds like a South
- 34:27Speaker 2: Park thing. All right. Very good. I'm glad we aired
- 34:31Speaker 2: that in Ken Walker Week. Perfect timing. All right, I'm
- 34:37Speaker 2: going to close with this. Anders, you are now on
- 34:39Speaker 2: the clock in our showdown draft. We did our Kraken
- 34:44Speaker 2: season preview, and we did a showdown draft. So we
- 34:47Speaker 2: all drafted teams from Kraken players, and we're playing a
- 34:50Speaker 2: fantasy league. It's four of us. And I had the
- 34:54Speaker 2: fourth pick in the draft, which means I get a pickup.
- 34:56Speaker 2: We get a pickup in the middle of the season
- 34:58Speaker 2: at any time. Sometimes people strategize, I'll wait to the
- 35:02Speaker 2: trading deadline, or I'll wait for an injury or a
- 35:05Speaker 2: call-up or something like that. But I've waited too long.
- 35:09Speaker 2: I have the number one pick. I had first right
- 35:12Speaker 2: of refusal over any of you, but now you have
- 35:15Speaker 2: first right of refusal over Donnie, the listener, and Kidd.
- 35:19Speaker 2: I'm going to take Ryan Winterton. I'm going to believe
- 35:22Speaker 2: in Ryan Winterton. Not Gaudreau, huh?
- 35:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:24Speaker 2: I think Gaudreau's numbers are... Fool's goal. Well, that's what
- 35:28Speaker 2: I was going to say because I thought that's where
- 35:29Speaker 2: you're going.
- 35:30Speaker 3: Nope.
- 35:30Speaker 2: I'm going to take Ryan Winterton. I almost took him
- 35:33Speaker 2: on draft day. I've already passed up two goals and
- 35:36Speaker 2: four assists. So starting tonight, he's on my team. He's official.
- 35:40Speaker 2: It is in pen.
- 35:40Speaker 3: All right.
- 35:41Speaker 2: You are officially on the clock. You can take a
- 35:43Speaker 2: drill right now if you want it. I'm good. He's
- 35:45Speaker 2: going to wait. All right. I'm good. So at any
- 35:47Speaker 2: point this season, you have first right of refusal over
- 35:50Speaker 2: anyone else. All right. We got a minute left. I'm
- 35:53Speaker 2: going to tell you the story about my shoes. So
- 35:56Speaker 2: I forgot. that i went ghost hunting in these shoes
- 35:59Speaker 2: didn't even think about it and i'm like why are
- 36:01Speaker 2: my shoes so muddy yeah by sunday night i went
- 36:04Speaker 2: ghost hunting with uh nice a few uh people uh
- 36:08Speaker 2: actually from the wooden creek kitchen nice uh and so
- 36:11Speaker 2: we're traversing i just thought we were going to be
- 36:13Speaker 2: on these paths and roads i wear like my tennis
- 36:15Speaker 2: shoes yeah and i thought we were on these paths
- 36:18Speaker 2: and roads and the next thing you know like we're
- 36:21Speaker 2: cutting through some bush. You're true hunting there. We're going
- 36:28Speaker 2: on roads that you're not supposed to take. And I'm like, oh,
- 36:33Speaker 2: I might not be dressed for this. Oh, I might
- 36:35Speaker 2: not be in shape for this. Oh, I might not
- 36:37Speaker 2: have the balance I used to have. Yeah, I dropped
- 36:40Speaker 2: a couple of times out in the woodlands. But anyway,
- 36:44Speaker 2: we got to our destination. It was a very fun
- 36:47Speaker 2: outing in the spirit of Halloween. Never been ghost hunting before. Yeah,
- 36:51Speaker 2: it's fun. It was fun. I got a whole story.
- 36:54Speaker 2: I got the whole background. I'm not going to tell
- 36:55Speaker 2: you where, because I don't think we were technically supposed
- 36:58Speaker 2: to be there. But yeah, I got a whole great
- 37:02Speaker 2: story to accompany it, and we had a blast. That's awesome.
- 37:07Speaker 2: It was great. A little ghost hunting. But if you
- 37:09Speaker 2: were wondering, why are his shoes so muddy? It's because
- 37:12Speaker 2: I was traipsing through the forest looking through ghosts. I
- 37:14Speaker 2: was curious also. Liar. All right, Greg Bell is next.
- 37:21Speaker 2: So is Jessamyn McIntyre. They will haunt you for the
- 37:24Speaker 2: next two hours on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.