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Lions vs Panthers - SNF Sunday Sweatdown | NFL Week 4 | DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear your liftoff. What is going on, Chibbit Nation? YouTube
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: station back Sunday after taking last week off, right? No
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  Speaker 2: shows last week. Ham was enjoying himself some traveling time, right?
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  Speaker 2: We took a week off, but we're back. We're back,
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  Speaker 2: ready to dive in, sweat down the end of these
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  Speaker 2: mainstay contests, and then we'll jump in and talk Sunday
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  Speaker 2: night football game here, which should yield some points, right?
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  Speaker 2: Typically been the case any time the excuse me, Detroit
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  Speaker 2: lions have been on the slate. Carolina's looked pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: So it should be a pretty fun game here tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. Good prizes overall on draft Kings,
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  Speaker 2: but how are we doing ham?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Doing good. Watching these games.
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  Speaker 3: I was in a nor'easter last week, watching those Titans
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  Speaker 3: and giants play.
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  Speaker 1: It was an awful game in the rain, but nades, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it's time at least for 2026, man, it may
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: be time to start having a conversation with, Around Justin Herbert,
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  Speaker 3: he's not him this year. Madison Beers got him some
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  Speaker 3: kind of way, but he's playing awful today.
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  Speaker 1: But not looking good. And, yeah, so got a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of sweat. Don't think I can ship anything, but.
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  Speaker 3: Got some CMC, Hawk, and Waddle teams left that are
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  Speaker 3: in the top ten. So maybe make a late push
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  Speaker 3: and get a nice sweat as.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about this Sunday night show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we got sweat in our Discord. Jim
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  Speaker 2: or Jill came down with 25, one of our Discord members.
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  Speaker 2: He's currently in fifth in the Mega Million right now.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead and pull it up on the screen here, Ham. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, absolutely disgusting team here overall. Did he even
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  Speaker 2: go left? Yeah, I mean, he's got Jenty, which nobody has,
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  Speaker 2: and Jordan Addison. Who do those two guys ahead of
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  Speaker 2: him have? Aaron Jones. So he's fading Jones and Hawkinson.
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  Speaker 2: He's fading Wilson, Seahawks defense, Hawkinson, Jones. He needs really–
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he needs Jenty. He needs Jenty. He needs
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  Speaker 2: Jenty and Addison because all these other guys around him
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  Speaker 2: have either Hawkinson, Aaron Jones. So he needs, um, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he needs Jordan, Jordan Addison. I know he's
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  Speaker 2: 28% on, but all the guys around him don't have him.
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  Speaker 2: So that would help as long as it's him over
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  Speaker 2: Hawkinson and Aaron Jones. So good luck to their, um,
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  Speaker 2: Jenty's the big one though. If Jenty can, can break
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  Speaker 2: one here, um, that would, uh, That would mint him,
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  Speaker 2: but overall, I'm assuming he got in with a ticket here,
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  Speaker 2: so a little 50 stacks. Right now, as it stands,
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  Speaker 2: Yuta just always in the mix. I mean, Yuta is
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely insane. Such a good player overall there. Let's
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  Speaker 2: take a look and see the $ 20 Millie here. Another
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  Speaker 2: DAC team, Emmanuel Wilson. getting in there. Kyron, I know Kyron, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Kyron was a great play on the slate. Um, right
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  Speaker 2: around 10, sub 10% ownership, uh, with everyone on, um,
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  Speaker 2: other running backs in his range. Right. Um, I just
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  Speaker 2: thought that was a really good play. Leveraged a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of the Ram stuff with, with Stafford and Puka and
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  Speaker 2: obviously Puka kind of still, still got there a decent amount.
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  Speaker 2: Stafford did not, but Kyron was, was a really good play. Um,
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  Speaker 2: Eagles are pretty dust. I mean, I just, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the Eagles are a good football team, but, uh, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: any kind of overarching thoughts that you're seeing on the
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  Speaker 2: slate here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously you need CD, you need a Nico,
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  Speaker 3: you need a Dak or CJ. Every tournament that I'm in,
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  Speaker 3: those are the guys at the top. We kind of
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  Speaker 3: sprinted them around with Kyron. Now you're seeing Emmanuel Wilson,
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  Speaker 3: who's dirt cheap on both sides, pop up. And kind
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  Speaker 3: of a lot of the chalk did not get there today, Nate.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody really in the Cincinnati game as it relates to–
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  Speaker 3: Parker Washington, it was– you know, Higgins did good, as
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  Speaker 3: you see there. Strange, but no Tootin', no Brown. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Chase left early. No Myers, no Lawrence, no Burrow. So,
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  Speaker 3: our boy Tambo kind of nailed that one on leverage lane,
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  Speaker 3: if you saw that. And then Blickle nailed– you know,
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  Speaker 3: he had Kyron as his leverage lane. 5,900 for Kyron
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  Speaker 3: Williams on a slate and caught 10 passes. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Jones doing Aaron Jones things. carrying it 20 times,
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  Speaker 3: averaging three yards a pop, so.
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  Speaker 2: No, the biggest thing I see right now, kind of
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  Speaker 2: overarching here, is the tight ends, right? Especially in, like,
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  Speaker 2: larger field stuff, you see the two tight ends in
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  Speaker 2: the smaller field, which makes sense, right? The mega million. But,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just going away from the two tight ends,
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  Speaker 2: that's where a bunch of the value was, right? Hawkinson's, like,
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  Speaker 2: 30% owned. You got other guys down there as well
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  Speaker 2: that are pretty popular overall from a tight end perspective. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Brent Strange, part of that Jacksonville-Cincinnati game, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's the biggest overarching when you come into a
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  Speaker 2: slate like today, right, and you see Jacksonville-Cincinnati is the
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  Speaker 2: game that is the can't-miss spot, right, for a good reason.
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  Speaker 2: And I know there was injuries, right? Jamar Chase got
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  Speaker 2: injured in that game pretty early. And it was just
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  Speaker 2: kind of overall pretty– weird run out in general um
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  Speaker 2: but when there's a 12 game slate ham like in
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  Speaker 2: in the field is condensing so much on a similar
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  Speaker 2: spot i mean you gotta almost think it's it's more
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  Speaker 2: advantageous like tambo his lane was to lean into other
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  Speaker 2: good games i mean dallas dallas houston dallas has been
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  Speaker 2: in shootouts all year right their defense has been atrocious
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  Speaker 2: right the giants in arizona That was another pretty good
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  Speaker 2: spot to target. The Jets in Chicago, which Jets in
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  Speaker 2: Chicago didn't end up coming to fruition there, just the
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  Speaker 2: way that went. That was a pretty good game to target.
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  Speaker 2: I know the 49ers game and Broncos was a pretty
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  Speaker 2: decent game to target overall. So any thoughts on that
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  Speaker 2: from an evergreen learning standpoint? You come into the slate, right?
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  Speaker 2: You open it up. Jacksonville, Cincinnati obviously looks great. Total's high.
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  Speaker 2: pieces look really good. Parker Washington has been smashing, right?
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  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase has been smashing. Everything just kind of lines up,
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  Speaker 2: but what's your kind of thoughts on that? Just from
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  Speaker 2: the overall slate before, obviously we, we see a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of the cards getting played right now, now that we
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  Speaker 2: have kind of the pieces of the puzzle laid out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, to me and Tambo kind of alluded to
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  Speaker 3: yesterday is like, I mean, that, that, Jags game was the,
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  Speaker 3: was the best total, but to win tournaments, you got
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  Speaker 3: to find spots that are similar to that with have
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  Speaker 3: dudes that can, that can smash.
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  Speaker 1: And like you just said, the Texans have given up.
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  Speaker 3: 38 to the bills and DJ Moore looked like prime
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  Speaker 3: Tio Dalton Kincaid cut up. So like their secondary while
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  Speaker 3: very good has been vulnerable this year.
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  Speaker 1: And so you got to find spots last week. It
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  Speaker 1: was Gino and those guys in that game.
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  Speaker 3: And so you got to find guys in different spots, but, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this week, I mean, I wanted a lot of three
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  Speaker 3: running backs this week and not the cheap tight ends
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  Speaker 3: and try to find the cheap running back, whether it
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  Speaker 3: was Braylon Allen, Aaron Jones. I didn't play enough Emmanuel Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm currently in 15th in the Millie on Fando.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have enough pop to get there, but it's
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  Speaker 3: at least fun to sweat making a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: bucks there. So today I thought it's been a really
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  Speaker 3: good slate, and McCaffrey's been kind of slow, which is
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  Speaker 3: not good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, McCaffrey's workloads getting eaten into more and more.
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  Speaker 1: Um, right.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously who is it? What black right from, from Indiana,
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  Speaker 2: the rookie behind him. Um, yeah, I mean, he's looked
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  Speaker 2: really good. 49ers know how important right. McCaffrey is to their,
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  Speaker 2: their season. Obviously they're got, they got a really good
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  Speaker 2: team that's going to be there at the end or
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  Speaker 2: should be at the end. Right. As long as they
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  Speaker 2: kind of shake the injury bug that they kind of
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  Speaker 2: have every season. Um, So that is one more thing
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  Speaker 2: to kind of add in. He doesn't really have, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: McCaffrey has the floor. I think one of the best
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  Speaker 2: floors of really any of the running backs on any
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  Speaker 2: given slate, but from a ceiling perspective, I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like his ceiling is not anywhere near a guy like
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  Speaker 2: a Jameer Gibbs, a Bijan Robinson, some of these other guys,
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  Speaker 2: just because black is getting more and more and they
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  Speaker 2: know McCaffrey is getting older, right? He's had injury histories
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  Speaker 2: in the past. So think that's one thing to kind
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  Speaker 2: of store in the back of your mind right and
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  Speaker 2: stash in your pocket there but any any thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: that before we kind of jump in here and take
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  Speaker 2: a look at this Sunday night football game yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean when the chips are down I would think
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  Speaker 3: Shanahan's going to play McCaffrey, at least, you know, while
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  Speaker 3: he can. Sertan went down earlier today, too. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you saw that, so Sertan's out. But McCaffrey, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: snap percentage has gone down. You saw first game over
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  Speaker 3: in Australia. I think Black actually out-snapped him. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so Aaron Smith says the chase injury– Like, I think
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  Speaker 3: that Jags game was even like– I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: when Chase got hurt.
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  Speaker 1: I think it might have been second quarter, but he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't doing much beforehand. I mean, maybe it changes it,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean– Yeah, I mean, with CeeDee Lamb getting 45
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  Speaker 2: or whatever he got and Nico Collins getting 36 or mid-30s,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really think it matters what Chase got.
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  Speaker 2: If anything, the Chase injury helped Higgins at chalk get
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  Speaker 2: there as well, right, in my opinion. Yeah. Um, so
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  Speaker 2: obviously it's, it's, it's tough to really kind of tell. Um,
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  Speaker 2: all I can say is, I don't know who's worse ham, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the NFL coaches here or, or the strength and conditioning coaches, uh,
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  Speaker 2: in these organizations. I mean, how many damn injuries have
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  Speaker 2: we seen all season? Like it's been showdown. It's been
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  Speaker 2: main slate. I mean, Adrian Cooper just tore his Achilles today. Um,
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  Speaker 2: you obviously had chase get injured. You had so many guys.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Ooh, Patrick Sertan just went out injured. Um,
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  Speaker 2: There was a ton of injuries, right? Any thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is it because you think it has– preseason
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  Speaker 2: has something to do with it? What's– I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: know the game's getting more and more physical, which doesn't help.
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  Speaker 2: And these guys, like I said, don't play preseason, so
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  Speaker 2: they come into the year and we're in basically game four, right,
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  Speaker 2: the last week of preseason standard typically. Any thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 2: And then we'll start talking Sunday night football here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think– yeah, I mean, no preseason I think hurts.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, all these dudes are so big, strong, and fast,
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  Speaker 3: and their muscles just ripped off the bone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Edgerin Cooper is super young too, right, for
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  Speaker 1: him to tear his Achilles. I think that may be
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  Speaker 1: it though, Nades.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm obviously not a doctor, but Edgerin like
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  Speaker 3: left with a concussion slash hamstring last week.
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  Speaker 1: Like was he favoring that so much and like came
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  Speaker 1: back too soon?
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  Speaker 3: He had the mini-ba. Maybe they're coming back too soon
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  Speaker 3: because they want to get out there. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but so many young dudes just tearing– I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know what happened. I mean, Mariota's old. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was an ACL or what
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  Speaker 1: that was, but it's the NFL, man.
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  Speaker 2: It's next man up.
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  Speaker 3: People go down every year, every week, and you hate
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  Speaker 3: it when the stars go out and edges. Obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 3: him being an up-and-coming star, so hate to see that
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think this has a lot to
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  Speaker 2: do with it, too. Alvin here says, I'm not practicing
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  Speaker 2: enough during the offseason and during the week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just so many like throw a questionable tag.
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  Speaker 2: They get, they, they do a walkthrough Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe practice one out of the six days leading
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: up to, to, to the slate. And then they go
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  Speaker 2: out there and I mean, they, they wonder why this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And again, I'm not a doctor. I don't know the
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  Speaker 2: ins and outs. And obviously the staffs I would assume
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  Speaker 2: are much smarter than I am with this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's, it's been absolutely, maybe it's just,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's just evergreen.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And it's, kind of just an anomaly, right, of all
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  Speaker 2: the injuries. But I mean, Jackson Dart, like the list
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  Speaker 2: is just absolutely insanely long. And it's just brutal overall
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  Speaker 2: to see so many injuries so early in the season.
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  Speaker 2: I think it has a lot to do with the
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  Speaker 2: preseason and the offseason stuff. And these guys kind of
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  Speaker 2: just doing whatever they want, right? I mean, you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to tell most of these studs, right, that they
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  Speaker 2: can't do something, right? They kind of dictate what they
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  Speaker 2: want to do and what they don't want to do, right?
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  Speaker 2: The coach only has So much say, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: is kind of what I understand. But, yeah, nonetheless, it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty brutal. Hopefully we get through a Sunday night football
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  Speaker 2: game or a showdown slate with no injuries here. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: we don't see no backup quarterback bullshit, none of these
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  Speaker 2: running backs, wide receivers going down. But what's your kind
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  Speaker 2: of broad slate overview here as we take a look
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  Speaker 2: at this Detroit Lions on the road in Carolina? Big
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  Speaker 2: total here. Detroit is favored. And Jameer Gibbs, all the
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  Speaker 2: way up at 18K. But, Ham, there's tons of value.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely going to be a stars and scrubs slate
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  Speaker 2: from what I see here. But what's your kind of overarching?
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  Speaker 2: And then we'll jump in. I'll give my kind of
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  Speaker 2: broad slate. And then we'll talk captains and do our
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  Speaker 2: show as usual here.
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  Speaker 3: Broad slate overview is that it's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: good game. And the reason I say that is because
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  Speaker 3: the Lions are on it. And we've seen in the
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  Speaker 3: first four games of the season, or three games of
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  Speaker 3: the season, when the Lions play, there's.
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  Speaker 1: Going to be a lot of offense. Not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of defense. They're secondary. Shows up as optional.
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  Speaker 3: Every game they've played in, Thursday night against the Bills,
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  Speaker 3: last week against Geno Smith, whoever that is.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, so I'm looking forward to the shootout.
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  Speaker 3: The Panthers, I mean, they gave up 60 in their
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  Speaker 3: first game, so they don't play much defense either.
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  Speaker 1: They can't stop the run. Their corners are out as well.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to the skill, guys.
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  Speaker 3: We know where the ball's going when the Lions have
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  Speaker 3: the ball. Gibbs, Amin Ra, Jamo started to get lathered
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  Speaker 3: up last week, Laporta, and then on the other side
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  Speaker 3: with no Coker and no Brooks, you got Hubbard, you
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  Speaker 3: got Tett, then you got two super cheap receivers that
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  Speaker 3: are going to be expensive.
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  Speaker 1: So they're all in play, then obviously the quarterbacks. I
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  Speaker 1: love the skill guys and the quarterbacks tonight, not so
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  Speaker 1: much the defenses and the kickers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you nailed it right. Detroit road favorites, 51.5,
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  Speaker 2: big total, right, 3.5. A lot of that has to
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: do with the defense for both of these teams, really.
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  Speaker 2: We should see a bunch of points here. Captain's going
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  Speaker 2: to be super condensed around Jameer Gibbs. Actually, just in general,
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  Speaker 2: Captain's going to be pretty concentrated around the Lions in
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  Speaker 2: general here. In my opinion, it's kind of what I'm
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  Speaker 2: seeing outside of maybe– Well, I guess it's probably close
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  Speaker 2: between Gibbs. Well, obviously Gibbs is far and away, right?
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be probably between 30% and 40%, I
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  Speaker 2: would say, which is the highest we've seen yet on
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  Speaker 2: a showdown slate. But it's definitely warranted, right? This dude
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  Speaker 2: gets everything he can handle in this spot. You have
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  Speaker 2: to assume he kind of accounts for 14 to 17
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  Speaker 2: of those points. I would say probably 14 of those points, right,
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  Speaker 2: from the Lions for sure. So that's why you see
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  Speaker 2: the ownership there. But then it's probably a drop-off, right,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of captain. And going to be spread amongst
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of different guys. Chuba going to be up there. Tett, McMillan,
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  Speaker 2: Amonra is going to kind of get sold here a
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: little bit. Both the quarterbacks are getting sold in the
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  Speaker 2: captain's position, which I do like quite a bit, especially
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  Speaker 2: the Bryce Young side. Reason being is we've seen quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: hit their ceilings against the same Detroit Lions secondary pretty
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  Speaker 2: much all season, right? Geno Smith. The thing is with
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  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, right, these guys like a Bryce Young, a
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  Speaker 2: Geno Smith, they struggle when they get pressure. The issue
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  Speaker 2: is the lines just don't bring any pressure. They can't
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  Speaker 2: get pressure on the quarterback. That's why you see Geno
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  Speaker 2: Smith win the Millie last week. So I like Bryce
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  Speaker 2: Young a ton, especially when you add in the fact
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  Speaker 2: that there's a bunch of unknowns in terms of the
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: wide receivers, right? Jalen Coker's expected not to suit up here.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got two tight ends, three tight ends, really,
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  Speaker 2: that get intertwined. You've got a bunch of these other
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  Speaker 2: ancillary wide receivers that Um, we, we saw last, last
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  Speaker 2: week it was, um, it was Bryson Tremaine, but John
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Mechie is still there. You have Mitchell Evans who gets
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  Speaker 2: some snaps at the tight end position, like I said.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: So when that's the case, I think Bryce Young makes
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a lot more sense up in the captain spot when
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you can see number one, it's a great matchup. Number two,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknowns where everyone thinks they kind
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: of know who it's going to with Darren Waller and
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Ted McMillan. And then the pump being Bryson, Bryson Tremaine,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: just because that's what we saw last week. So take
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: us into the captain position. I kind of gave an
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: overview here and alluded to some of the guys that
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I like. But how do you see this captain position
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: shaken out here for for this nice game?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Gibbs. It's Gibbs for me.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Number one for the Lions. Number two for me is
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: going to be Ted on the other side. Ran routes
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: on 92 percent of the dropbacks last week. He's Bryce's
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: number one guy. I would say I would even call
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: him one B. And Jalen Coker's not playing tonight, so
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: that just elevates Ted even more at 13-5. I love
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that price. I think he can get there on his own.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: He would be a distant number two for me. And
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: then Amon Ra, if you're just going to pepper Amon
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Ra and have Amon Ra go straight CD lamb from today,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Amon Ra's done that before where he catches 15 for
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: 150 and a touch. Definitely like that. And I think
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: you've got to throw in the two quarterbacks, like you said.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I do like Young. Ahead of Goff, he's $ 300 cheaper,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: and he has a little bit more rushing upside. I
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: think he ran two in the first game of the
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: season where Goff's not really going to run it, so
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I would have Young ahead of Goff for me. But
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: it's Gibbs, it's Tett, it's Amin Ra, and then it's
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the two QBs to follow that for my five favorite captains.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I definitely like that. Gibbs, obviously, number one
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: for me. I'll probably match the field, to be honest.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I'll probably play around 30% Gibbs captain. Just maybe, I mean,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: as it shakes out, I expect him to kind of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: come in higher than that. I ran the dry run
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: ham here and got 81% Jameer Gibbs in the captain position,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: which then leads the flex position to be a bunch
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: of Darren Waller, Bryson Tremaine, the kickers and that, just
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: because salary is pretty loose overall, even with him up there.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I do lean, like you said, Bryce Young over Jared Goff.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: for sure. So my captain rankings, I go Gibbs number one,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: just de facto. It's hard to argue his floor and
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: ceiling combination with his current setup here. I actually like
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young as my second favorite captain for the reasons
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I alluded to earlier. He's going to be right around
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: 5% owned in the captain spot. There's a bunch of unknowns.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: He could spread it out to a bunch of different guys, right?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Not having Jalen Coker who, was second on the team
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in routes run through the first three weeks of the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: season here, 83 routes, only behind Tett McMillan. Chuba Hubbard
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: was actually second. So Chuba's involved in the pass game. McMillan, obviously. Waller,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you got Tremble running a bunch of routes. You got
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: these other guys, Tremaine and Mechie. You also have some
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: of these other guys. Mitchell Evans gets some snaps out there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: David Moore, these other ancillary wide receivers. So I just
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of options to spread it out,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: whereas I think on the Detroit side, It's much more condensed.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It's Gibbs. It's Amon Ra. It's sometimes Jamison Williams and Laporta.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: But really, I mean, so much of the offense runs
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: through Jameer Gibbs that I just think it's easier to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: pinpoint on the Lions side of the ball. So that's
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: why I don't really like Goff up in the captain position.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: If I'm playing the quarterback, it is definitely Bryce Young,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: like I alluded to. I think Chuba's a decent play
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: as well. I know you don't like Chuba there, but
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: this dude's just so involved in this offense here. It
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: is a good matchup. The Lions really can't stop a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: nosebleed on defense. That's why I expect points. I'm playing.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I think this game goes over the total. I know
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the common common route, but everyone is
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: more so slamming the lion's side in and not really
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: respecting Carolina enough because it allows right. All the value
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: is really on the Carolina side. So then people are
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: playing the studs on Detroit side. So I think playing
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: some of these middling captains, I think a Jameson Williams
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: is interesting just because he always has the capability to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: break it. He's ten five up there. gets you some
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: leverage off Jameer Gibbs, and maybe it's Jameson Williams that
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: gets the end around for a touchdown and catches a
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: long bomb, scores twice, something like that, and that's enough
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: at 10-5, gets you on a different roster construction than
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Stars and Scrubs, and you go kind of that little
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: middling build. So I do think Jameson Williams is interesting
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: up there. Sam Laporta, I think people are going to
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: play up there. I don't hate it, but I don't
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: love it. Ideally, my captain pool is going to be
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: pretty focused around Gibbs, Amon Ra, Bryce Young. Hubbard, McMillan.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Those are kind of my five main guys that I'm
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: looking at. Jamison Williams, Laporta would be 6-7 if you
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: wanted to add some. I think Darren Waller. What's your
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: thoughts on Darren Waller up top? I know he's super cheap,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: gets you on a different roster construction than what the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: field is doing right now with Stars and Scrubs heavy.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: What do you think he needs? Two touchdowns, something like that?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: He's only 6,600. But does he really have the ceiling
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to go out there? And I know there's no Jalen Coker,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: so you could see more. Darren Waller is kind of
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: that slot guy lining up out wide more. But I
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: don't know what his ceiling is. And I think he's
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: going to get over-rostered for what his upside is. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I don't really know what more it gets you in
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: terms of roster construction. Any thoughts on Darren Waller there? Yeah.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I'm out on Darren Waller.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're talking captain or in the flex,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: he's playing roughly 50% of the snaps, uh, running about
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: 50% of the routes.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: He had two touchdowns in Atlanta.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: So you're going to have to throw out a pretty
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: tight needle to get him to make him, um, viable.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm just not going to go there. Not when
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you have Tremaine, not when you have, uh, Mechie the third.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm out on, I'm out on Waller definitely
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: for the captain, probably not in the, uh, in the
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: flex as well. We got trouble in paradise.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Nays.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: We got, we got Minnesota on the ropes, baby. So
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: let's go. Come on, fans. Let's fin up, get 40%
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: of the people out of survivor pool.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Is that what they were on 40?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were 40.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is just a bloodbath year for, for survivor.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that right now. It's just any given Sunday,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: right in the NFL, but, um, yep. Getting back to
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: this game, um, captains, I think it's pretty easy on
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the line side. It's a Monroe. It's Jameson Williams. It's
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Gibbs is the three main ones. Laporta would be the fourth.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And then on, The Carolina side, I really like Bryce Young.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Chuba Hubbard and Tet McMillan are kind
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: of the three main guys. I'm buying on Hubbard and
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: McMillan both, along with Bryce Young. And I'll probably be
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: playing more captains from the Carolina side and just hoping
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: it's that way. I've just seen so much from this
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Detroit Lions defense, allowing so many points to pretty much
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: every position on the field. So I do like that overall.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I don't really love the tight ends up in the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: captain spot. Um, just because I think it leads you
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: into a pretty similar roster construction, um, overall. And I
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: don't love that on a slate like this. So, um, that's,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: that's enough from the captain position. I think here, jumping
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: over the flex ham, we got, uh, quarterbacks, um, golf
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: 10 K on the road outdoors, right? I know people
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: are talking about that in prime time, right? Pull it,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: pull the tapes, pull, pull the numbers, right? Run his
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: track record on that. Um, Bryce young 9,800. I like
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Bryce young a ton. Goff is going to be higher owned. Um,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: just because right lines have their favorite on the road.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: They have a bigger implied team total. They project better. Um,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I like flipping it personally myself, but what's your take here? Goff, um,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: and Bryce young.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm with you there. Like I said earlier,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like Bryce young's rushing upside. He has
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: at home.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Someone mentioned weather in the, uh, in the chat. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: did not see any weather. Um, I did not see
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: any weather.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Tonight. So I got Young, though. I like Tett. I mean,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that secondary nades is bad, bad there.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: If you can make Geno Smith a millionaire winner, then
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: you can make Bryce Young, who I don't think is
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: any good either, a winner as well.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So give me some Bryce Young over Jared Goff. But
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I don't hate Jared Goff. Jared Goff played.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Well at, you know, came on late against Buffalo, who
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: was not any good at defense either. So I don't
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: mind Goff either, but I think they're both going to
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: be pivotal for tonight's game.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a question to ask you here, Ham. Double
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: quarterback here. What do you think– how much do you
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: think the field plays two quarterbacks here in a lineup,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: whether one's at the captain or not?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say the answer is yes. I mean, percentage-wise, 60%, 70%.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: And the reason I say that is because there's going
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: to be tons of passing volume in this game.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: It should be high-scoring.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: It should be high-scoring. That's how I'm playing. I think
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the field sees that as well. The total's a high total.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: The Lions can't play. Everybody knows all that. Like, you're
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: not sneaking that past anyone. So I think people are
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: going to want pass catchers. They're going to want somebody
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: cheaper in the captain spot. And then that way you
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: can jam in a lot more of the studs. So
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: when I build, personally, I want two quarterbacks, especially tonight,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: because I think it's going to be in the 20s,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: if not in the 30s as well for both teams.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to see, I mean, I'm seeing, I'm
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: just running some stuff through stuff that I'm seeing here.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I expect like roughly 30 to 40% of
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the field to play both quarterbacks in their lineup. I mean,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Typically in these high total games, we
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: have seen the double quarterbacks kind of come through there.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to find a way to play, get
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: onto a different roster construction than what the field is here. So,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: That is something to kind of monitor there because I
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: think he could very easily play– instead of playing two quarterbacks,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I think he could easily drop a Jared Goff or
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young down to a Chuba, a Tat, or up
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: to an Amonra, something like that, right, and just not–
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and just maybe play it a little bit more condensed
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: that the quarterbacks don't really– both get there at the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: same time.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of looking through it a little bit. Just,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: it seems like a pretty heavy, heavy margin of lineups
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: that are going to have both quarterbacks here, which I
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: get the reasoning, right? I get it. All the things
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you alluded to make sense there. I'm just, I'm a
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: little worried about so much of the field, just slamming
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: both of these guys in there. I mean, 10 K
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and 9,800 is a pretty hefty price point. When you
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: have a Monroe who can PPR his way there, Jameer
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Gibbs at 12 K who obviously can do everything. Um, so, uh,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: it is just an interesting thought overall, but let's take
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: us into, take us into the running back position here. Um,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: obviously it's Jameer Gibbs far and away, um, on the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Detroit side, but Vaki, I think at 3k is a
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: little interesting here. Um, he hasn't really cut into Gibbs
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: too much, but I mean, he's $ 3, 000 with any, any,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: any thought on him, but the other one I'm seeing
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: is AJ Dillon as well. It's really Chuba, uh, Gibbs
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: are by far and away the two main guys here,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: but any, any thoughts on these other ancillary running backs,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the A.J. Dillons of the world, the Sion Vockies of
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: The thing with Vockie and I'm like, I don't obviously
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: don't love Vockie, but he did play the most snaps
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: he's played at any point in the season, played 31%
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: of the snaps last.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Week, which was the most he played all season. But man, it's,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: it make, if you want, if you wanted to fade
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Gibbs in a large field tournament, I guess you could
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and play this Bucky cat, but man, it's tough. So
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's Gibbs. And then, yeah, I think we differ. I mean,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: even though Hubbard, you know, even though Hubbard played, I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: think 84% of the snaps, no Brooke, AJ Dillon is
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: not very good anymore since he was just, into the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Lambeau leap.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be lower on Hubbard because I think
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: there's good. I just, I'm going to play a passing
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: game tonight. I'm going to play the cheap pass catchers
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: for the Panthers. I'm obviously going to play Ted. I'm
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: going to play the quarterback.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Let's look at me.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: He had 19 attempts last week, so they are going
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: to feed him the rock and he's a, he's a
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: pretty good ball player, but, I'm going to be lower
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: on Hubbard than maybe the field and on Gibbs and
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: not playing.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting to these running backs either, Nate. But
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you know why?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Because I can get to Mechie and Tremaine at the
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: same price almost, right?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: One's cheaper, one's a little bit more expensive. So I'm
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: out on Bakke and not playing Dillon either.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the issue I– the pushback I give you
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: with Hubbard is, I mean, this dude's second on the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: team in routes run behind Tett McMillan overall on the season.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And now you take Jalen Coker out and you take
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Xavier Leguette out. Leggett was sixth on the team. Coker
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: was second overall. So that bumps– I mean, the routes
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: run perspective, it's Tett, it's Chuba, and then it's the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: tight ends. Waller, Tremble, and Tremaine probably is the other
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: guy that's going to slide up there. So that's why
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I just think the floor-ceiling combination from a guy like
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Chuba Hubbard, he's going to get owned as such, but
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I do think it's still a really good play overall.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I do like him up in the captain position. He's
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: probably a little owned, a little over-owned. At least we're
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: showing a little over-owned. um, in the captain position, but
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I do like both the running backs a lot there.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I think he's kind of interesting as well, especially if
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: you're playing a lion's heavy script. I just don't think, um,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: many people are going to have Vaki in there and you,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I think you can play them with, with Gibbs and
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: who's to say the lions just, I mean, the lions
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: definitely could come in here and just kind of, kind
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: of roll them up. Um, I like the Panthers a
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: little bit more in this game in general. Um, I'm
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: not playing AJ Dillon. I'd rather play Ham, which, uh,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: at his current state than AJ Dillon. So, If I'm
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: playing one of them, it'd be Vocky, but it's really
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: those two guys. Not much more to say. Running back's
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: pretty cut and dry on this slate with these two
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: teams in particular here. Wide receivers, where stuff gets interesting
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: overall here. Amonrod, 11K. That's a pretty hefty price point
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: to play in the flex. He's more expensive than both
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, and he's only $ 1, 000 cheaper than Jameer Gibbs.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: he doesn't need to score touchdowns to get there. Right.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: He can do kind of the CD lamb line that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: we saw this today. Lamb had like what 38 drafting
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: points before he even scored a touchdown 17 receptions, a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: hundred plus yards. I mean, that's definitely in our Monros
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: capabilities here. He can be like 10 for one 20
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and zero guy. And that's definitely enough at, at, at that. But,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: The more interesting part here overall is the ancillary wide
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: receivers for Carolina. The whole field is going to play
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Bryson Tremaine because it's a recency week bias. Everyone saw
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: last week. You take a look at week three, right?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Coker got injured early in that game. Only ran 17 routes,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: got injured. After that, it was a ton of Tremaine.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Tremaine ran 39 routes last week. Second on the team
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: overall behind Tep McMillan, even more than Chuba Hubbard. So
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: he's the guy that everyone wants to go to. He
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: is the big play guy. He does have the more
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: upside and the ceiling, but Mechie is still there running routes.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: They're still going to mix in Tommy Tremble, Mitchell Evans.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: These guys are still going to get routes out there.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I am a little worried. I mean, I think Tremaine's
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: a really good cash play. I just think so many people,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, so many of the teams are going to
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: be both quarterbacks, Gibbs and Amon. I'll pick one of
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: those and throw in Tremaine and whoever else fits is
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: kind of how the slate's going to shake up. It's
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: probably both quarterbacks, Gibbs, Laporta, Tremaine, and figure out your
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: sixth piece is really what the kind of cash game
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: and how the slate is shaken up. So how do
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: you shake up this wide receiver room here? The main,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: the main one is definitely on the Panther side with
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: all these other guys, David Morris, the just seemed read
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: who I think is really interesting at $ 200. I'm seeing
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: really low ownership on him and who's to say that
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: he can't just slide in there. But how do you
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: see this overall? Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Someone mentioned just seem reading. I don't even know who
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: that is.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: So I can't wait to hear you tell me who
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: he is, but to me, it's, it's, it's super tough
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: to get off Bryce and Tremaine. And the reason being
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: is because of his price, $ 2, 600. I get it. He's
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: going to be popular, but rightfully so. He ran 76%
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: of the routes last week, 39 routes, 76% shared.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: He's going to be out there. He got numerous targets
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: as well. Had a really good game. I mean, he's there.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: He's, he's going to start and play a bunch. So,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: At that price tag, for me, it's hard to get off.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Whereas a guy like John Metchie III, former Alabama great,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: he's a little bit tougher to play because his time
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: could be impacted. He played 55– ran 55% of the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: routes last week.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: You got this Jasim Reed guy people are talking about.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Do they go more two tights now? The game plan
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: obviously wasn't for Coker to get hurt, so they kind
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: of had to scramble.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he played so much.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: But I think Bryson Tremaine is squarely entrenched in playing–
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: you know, 80% of the snaps, 90% of the snaps
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: running 80% of the routes. So at $ 2, 600, he's a tough,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: he's a tough fade for me on this slate. And
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: then on the other side, I'm in raw, like you said,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: just the target monster can get there in both game scripts, right?
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: He can get there in a trailing grant game script,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: like we saw in Buffalo, or he can get there
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: to rack up the points and yards and touchdowns.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Like he's done numerous times as well. So I do
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: love almond raw.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: And then I think the case for Jamison, you kind
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: of alluded to it earlier, is like for Jamison to
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: hit his ceiling at $ 7, 000 and to be viable, he's
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: going to eat into Gibbs. So if you build a
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: game script where Jamo took an 80-yard bomb to the
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: house or an end around to the house, something like that,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: obviously Gibbs isn't getting those fantasy points. So that's how
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I think Williams on this offense is kind of viable
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: is You're going into it building a team with Goff
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: and not so much playing Gibbs because J-Mo's ceiling games
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: impact Gibbs the most, if that makes sense.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure. I definitely like it. If you're
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: kind of under on J-Mo, I would probably– or under
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: on Gibbs, I would probably look at Vocky getting a
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: little work and maybe Detroit just goes more run heavy
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and kind of, gives Vaki a little bit more work
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: behind Gibbs. But it really be the explosive plays of
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Jamison Williams, right? 7K in the flex, 10.5 in the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: captain position. I probably prefer Jamo up top more so
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: than in the flex. But he's good in both. His
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: ceiling is obviously there. This is a spot usually you
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: see people buying on Jamison Williams, but it's been so
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: bad for him that I think this is a perfect
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: opportunity here to buy low. on a guy like JMO
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: when everybody on Detroit wants to play Gibbs, Goff, Amonra, Laporta,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: because that's what we've seen so far. Who's to not
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: say that, Hey, maybe they, the lions go out there
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and let's get JMO involved here. And who, who better
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: than against the Panthers on the road here in a
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: 51 and a half point total. Right. So I do
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: like your breakdown there. I think Tesla is a little
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: interesting as well. It's been really bad for him, but, um,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, Tesla at 4,200, he's a little bit more
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: expensive than guys like Mechie, Tremaine, Waller. He's $ 200 less
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: than Darren Waller, who's going to be half the ownership there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: So I think Tesla is a little interesting in this
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: spot as well. So I do think there's a lot
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: of interesting ways to go overall in the wide receiver position.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: My favorite would be Tet. I like Tet a lot.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I think Jasim Reed's in play at $ 200. because, again,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknowns there. Our guy in the
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: chat is talking about Mechie getting the returning and maybe
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: just seeing Reed get some of his routes there. It's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: just really up in the air. You really can't get
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: rid of any of these Carolina guys, the Mechies, the Tremains,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: the David Moores of the world, just seeing Reed. I'm
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: not really messing with a guy like Tate Martin at $ 800.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: The Lions side is really cut and dry from the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: wide receiver. It's Amonra and it's Jameson Williams. are really
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the two guys Tesla would be the sub 10% on
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: guy that has shown a ceiling to break a slate
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and get you on a, on a different roster construction
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: in that 4k range when everyone else is clicking Darren Waller. So, um,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I do think he's a little interesting. I don't really
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: have much more to break down from the wide receiver
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: position overall. Tight ends is really interesting here. I like
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the tight ends quite a bit. Um, Laporta and Waller
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: both look really good, but don't sleep on my guy
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Tommy Tremble. I like Tremble here, and I like Mitchell Evans.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I like both of them.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Lions have been bleeding, bleeding, absolutely bleeding points to the
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: tight end position here. Waller's going to be the only
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: guy that gets played. Tremble a little bit, but, I mean,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: 10% to 15% at $ 2, 400, not really much to worry about.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Mitchell Evans has– I feel like this guy has won
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: me a bunch of money. Last year, he's had, I
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's been on showdowns or what, but
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: how do you see the tight end position here? The
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Brock Wrights of the world, he can trickle in a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: little bit. I just think a lot of these punt
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: guys are a lot more viable on a slate like this,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: where Gibbs is $ 18, 000 in the captain position. Amonra is 16-5.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: We expect a bunch of points. Two catches for 30
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: yards could be enough from some of these guys at 2,400, 2K, 1,600.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Same goes for those other wide receivers like the David
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Moore's of the world to just seem reads of the world.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: So how do you see the tight end position here over.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: That end's pretty cut and dry for me.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: It's Sam Laporte and his 86% route participation from week three.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Not going to play Russian roulette nades with some guy
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: named Tommy Trimble, the corpse of Darren Waller, Brock Wright.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to play Bryson Tremaine at cheap. and then
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: just jam in the studs, and then like Laporta is
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: a stud as well, and he can get there on volume,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: and he can get there on scoring touchdowns as well.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: So give me some Sam Laporta.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: That's kind of the security blanket, but he's up there
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: for me, and then no other tight end, none of
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: those guys from Carolina that I'm going to be getting
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: to tonight.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like Tremble quite a bit, and Evans,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I just think. With how shorthanded, right, you're taking Leggett,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: obviously on the IRR, Now you're taking Jalen Coker as well.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Two guys that were getting a decent amount of routes
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: on this team. They can't just run out Chuba every
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: time out there. They need him in the backfield still.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: They're not just going to thrust Darren Waller into every
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: single snap either. They want to keep this dude right
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: around 50% of snaps overall. Something like that. Maybe it
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: comes up a little bit. I just think there's a
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: lot of snaps to go around from this tight end position.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Evans was already getting I mean, last week was the
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: first week that his snaps kind of went down. But
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: prior to that, 40%, 58%, which is right there in line.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're really running a bunch of two tight
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: end sets. So I like Tremble, Waller, Evans, all three
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: of those guys. I do prefer those guys to Brock Wright.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Laporta is a great play. He's going to be owned
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: as such for a good reason. He's been really involved
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: in this offense. And in a lineup where maybe you
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: play Maybe you play like– if you're fading Gibbs, I
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: guess– how should I say this? I mean, Laporta– I mean,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: maybe like a Laporta and a Jamison Williams. Williams eats
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the home run upside of a Jameer Gibbs, and Laporta
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: eats the PPR from a Monro. Something like that I
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: think is a little interesting way. I don't know how
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: many Jamison Williams and Sam Laporta combinations you're going to
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: see that don't include Gibbs or Monroe. So something like that,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I think is a little interesting, but any, any thoughts
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: overall on that? Yeah.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like what Aaron says too.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean, Waller, Waller plays a lot
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: of his snaps when he gets around the red zone,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: as we saw in Atlanta game, but I mean, they
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: got to get down.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: There first and not hit 60 yard bombs to Ted.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: So I just, I'm just not, you know, I'm playing
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: limited lineups tonight, higher, higher dollar, lower field. And I'm
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: not going to be getting there tonight, personally. But if
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: you're playing, like, in a lotto, I don't think it's
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the worst thing. But for me, it's a lot of Laporta.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I like what you said about that. Like, if you
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: went J-Mo, Goff, and Laporta, and they got you the points,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: and it wasn't a Gibbs and Amon Ron, I mean,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I'm watching this Seahawks game now, and there's no way
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: that JSN doesn't get 150-2 every week, right, until it happens.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And so that could happen tonight. It's any given Sunday.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: It's a one-game slate.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: It could be a J-Mo night. They could want to
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: get him rolling. They started to get him rolling last week.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe this is the game that they really get him going.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: So I don't hate that. I actually like that call
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: with J-Mo. I don't think you said Goff, but J-Mo,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I'll say Goff and Laporta and fading a Gibbs and
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: an Amun-Ra.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Don't hate that, Nades, at all.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a little interesting. I'm just trying
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: to find different ways to play the slate. Um, overall,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and I do like that, um, from the tight end
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: position as well. I just, I'm going to buy Tommy
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Tremble and Evans more than Darren Waller. Uh, I get it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Darren Waller projects really well. He's been great. He's 4,400.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: It's too cheap. They're down, down past catchers, but I mean,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Tremble's been involved in this offense big time. Evans is athletic.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I like him. So, I mean, you're getting, you can
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: get Tremble and Evans for the same price as Darren
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Waller and they both could score. and I'll do Darren
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Waller and how many people are going to play those
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: two guys together. So I think that's interesting as well.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Just because you're going to see so many Darren Waller
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: teams anchored with Gibbs or Amon Ross. So maybe you
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: go a Gibbs, a Gibbs team with Tremble and Evans,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: and you used up two spots there. You don't play
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: both quarterbacks. You only play one quarterback and you go
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: like a Tremble Evans, Bryce Young with Gibbs up top
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: and you fade golf and just say, okay, Gibbs gets
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: a check down or whatever. gets a handoff, breaks it, two, whatever.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: So just little things like that I think is kind
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: of interesting as well. Kickers and defenses here, Ham. Nobody's
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: going to play these defenses. Definitely the Panthers defense at 3,600.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, they are at home. They are only a
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: slate underdog. Is there a world where Carolina can control
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: this game? I mean, I think there is. So in
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: instances where that, I mean, you're probably going to want
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Chuba Hubbard for sure with that. But 3,600, I think
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: that's kind of interesting. Lions defense at 4K. Those are
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the pivots off that Darren Waller range in that 4K range.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And then kickers, Bates, Fitzgerald, when there's a lot of points,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: kickers have more opportunities, right? Gibbs can break one. They
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: can stall out. field goals, JMO, all these guys. So
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I do like the kickers and defenses here as everyone is.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing pretty modest ownership on them just because the
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: way the slate shakes up, it's so concentrated at the
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: top that it leads to a lot of stars and
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: scrubs builds, right? Where you don't really land on this
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: mid tier. And if you do, people are clicking in
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: a guy like Darren Waller, they're finding a little bit
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: more money to get up to a Sam Laporta or,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: They're going down cheaper with a guy like Bryson Tremaine, right?
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: So these kickers and defenses kind of land in no
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: man's land, which makes me like them more. I like
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: all four of them. I'm going to have a decent amount.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I do definitely prefer the kickers to the defenses overall,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: but how do you see the special teams here?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so for me, Dan Campbell notoriously goes for it
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: on fourth down.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: So right there, I'm going to not play any Bates.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jake Bates is a great kicker, has a
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: lot of distance, but you know, he goes for a
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: lot on the flip side, my boy, Ryan Fitzgerald, 15, 10, eight.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: They're not afraid to try them out there. So I,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't love Fitzgerald tonight, especially at 4,800 bucks,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: but he would be the one that I would play.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: And then what I learned from you is like, as
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: it relates to defenses, you got 4,000, you got 3,200.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. 3,600.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: All it takes is one scoop and score, pick six, deflection,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson coming off the end and hitting that ball out,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: and you're off to the races. And then, you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: you're golden for the rest of the day at that matter.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: So it's Fitzgerald for me, no baits. I don't love
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: these Lions or Panthers defenses, but if I wanted to
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: get different, something like that, I think it's certainly viable.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to try not to play the defenses
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: if I can help it.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's definitely– I do think Fitzgerald's my favorite overall.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: He's going to be lower owned than Bates as well,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: which typically is the case, right? The underdog kicker always is,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: is under owned compared to the favorite kicker. But I mean,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: we're talking to 51 and a half point total here
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and Carolina, I expect them to move the ball. Bryce
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Young can make mistakes in the red zone and fizzle out.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Aiden Hutcherson can get a sack, knock them out, things
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: like that. So I do like Fitzgerald Laton at 4,800.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I just think, I mean, Sam Laporta dropped down to Fitzgerald,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: leave the $ 2, 200. I mean, you just cut your dupes
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: big time, something like that. Little things like that I
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: think are interesting. But more so, they're just sandwiched between
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Laporta and Bryson Tremaine. Nobody in this 3K to 6,600
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: range is really getting played outside of Darren Waller, Tremaine,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: and Laporta. I mean, these other guys are going to
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: get played some, but it's not really– Waller's going to
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: dwarf them in terms of ownership, Tremaine, Laporta. So I
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: just think it's a no man's land. It goes back
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: to my point earlier of less stars and scrubs and
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: more kind of just building differently than what the field is.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: We talk about it all the time. It's not about
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: the picks and plays. Nobody knows shit at the end
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: of the day. We have no clue what's going to happen.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: We can't predict anything, but what we can do is
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: we can predict how the field is going to build
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: and build against it. And I think just doing that
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: more middling type of build, where you're not as stars
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and scrubs heavy. You're not playing the Tremains of the
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: world when everybody's playing them to afford Gibbs and Amonra
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and both quarterbacks. Why not play some kickers, play some defenses,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and just say maybe this game goes under, right? Who's
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: to say this game has to go over here in
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the spot? It is Sunday night. Yeah, so that's just
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: some additional takes there. I just think it lands you
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: in no man's land, like I said. And I think
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: for that reason, they're going to get underplayed. and we've
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: seen kickers and defenses win tons of slates overall. Any
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: additional takes overall here from the showdown game?
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't think so.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: I'm going to look at some J-Mo Laporta teams. I
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: like that you talked me on to that, so I'm
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: going to play one of those in your honor, try
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: to find a good one there.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be high scoring. Like you said,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: everybody thinks that, they're going to probably build that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: But if you build to a 17 to 14 type game, then,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: and that hits and you got the kickers and defenses,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: you may be onto something, but I think it's going
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: to be higher score than that.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: So hopefully we can get somebody to ship us a
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: quarter meal tonight. That's for sure.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully. I mean, I just, Yeah, the more I
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: look at this, I just I don't know. I think
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: just the recency bias, I think, is just leading so
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: many people to the same place on tonight's slate. And
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: this is the perfect example to kind of zig when
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: everyone else zags. So taking a look at these other
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: ancillary guys like a Tesla, a Mechie, who's going to
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: be a fraction of the ownership compared to Tremaine. And
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're basically the same play. Tremaine's going to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: be 50%. Mechie's going to be 12%, right? Like it's
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: one slate. It's one position. It's the same position. Tremble,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: same thing, 2,400. I mean, he's right there. He's going
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: to be 150 ownership, but Tremaine for $ 200 less, right?
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Little things like that. I think you don't need to
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: get crazy. You don't need to get off the wall.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Tremaine looks great. He projects great. He's going to be
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: on like that. That's kind of my biggest thing is
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: it's not about finding these diamond in the roughs. It's
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: just playing a little bit differently with, these guys have
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: pretty similar opportunity. I mean, we expect points, we expect
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: the ball to get, go, go around. Bryce young typically
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: spreads it around anyways. Um, especially without Jalen Coker on
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the field, we don't know what this is going to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: really look like. We're, we're basing it off a half
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: of half a game of football. Um, when Coker looked
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: to be, to be wide receiver one for, for this offense.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: So any, uh, we let's try and stay on for
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: inactives here. Inactive should drop in about nine minutes or so,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: 10 minutes, any, uh, Any additional thoughts for the chat?
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, the inactive should come out right now because
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: the game's at 720.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: What about our boy in the Millie? How's he looking?
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Addison just had a catch.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me refresh here and pull that up.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I had gotten up to eighth in the Millie on FD,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: but I have the Raiders D, and they gave him
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: a touchdown, so I'm not there anymore.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: So, Frankie F.J. Bourne, look at this. I mean, how
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: good is he still? Like, he's always in contention. Still
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: in fifth. Yeah, still in fifth for 50 Gs off
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: a ticket. So that's good to see. One drop. Really
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: good player, obviously. Always up there. Yuta.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's look at what the $ 20. I mean,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I don't really know $ 20. Anyone really up here right now?
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Shady.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your typical suspect's up here. But, yeah, I mean,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: he– I know Jenty went out for a little bit,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: but I think he's back in. Yeah, he had returned
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to the game. So, for our guy, Jill, if Jenty
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: can come back and bust one, I mean, he doesn't
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: need much, man. Like, I don't know if he can
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: get all the way home because this lineup's pretty nutted
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: with the script that the game is going. I mean,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: look at TJ Hockinson. What a– what a terrible mistake
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: that was for me by that switch that, that two
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: V two that I dropped on my man, my main
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: single entry team, just absolutely horrendous there. Um, just, just
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: pretty brutal, but, uh, yeah. What are you, uh, are
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: you sweating right now?
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm not sweating anything.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have, I have, uh, Aaron Jones and, uh,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: And the Raiders D, but I'm in like 15th.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to catch.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Whoever.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just want to pull up.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind Aaron Jones getting 11 yards and a touchdown.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I want to pull up this.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Check it out.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is, I mean, this is killing me.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: My two V two here was Braylon Allen. Jets defense– well,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: it was Braylon Allen, Jets defense, and Dalton Schultz versus–
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I had Javante, TJ Hawkinson, Rams defense. I mean, that's
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: a 20, 40-some point swing. 40-some point swing, I'd be
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: at 190. I'd be top five right now for 5Gs. Nice. Nice.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: That's pretty hurtful there. That sucks. It sucks to suck,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's not good. What is this? Oh, who am I?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I do got a little mini sweat. Let's see what
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: this sweat is.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: So, Bryce Young, captain, you want two pass catchers? I mean,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I don't force it. I do think Bryce Young has
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: upside on the ground. I know Ham likes his rushing there.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Let me look. What's Bryce Young's rushing prop here?
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: NFL props. I need a– ooh, I got a nice
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: little sweat going on, Nades. Hold on.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Where, on Fando? I can't pull it up because Fando
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: is– I know, it's fine. I mean, I need– Fando's ass.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I need Brock Bowers. Brock Bowers for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I need Brock Bowers too. So Bryce Young's 14-and-a-half rushing prop.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Give me some BCB, man. Come on, BCB.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Give me some– I do think the more I look
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: at this ham here– what's your thoughts here? Bryce Young,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: two pass catchers. I don't know if I force it,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: but I just think there's so many options that he
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: can throw to. I mean, you got Chuba Hubbard who's
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: big time involved. Obviously, you got Tett. But then after that,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got three tight ends that get involved.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: You don't know what the split's going to look like
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: between Mechie, Tremaine, David Moore, these other guys, the just
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: seem reads of the world. So I would probably set
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: that up that way just so you can filter in
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: around Bryce Young and just make sure not every Bryce
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Young captain team has Ted McMillan and Darren Waller like
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: everybody else has. So I do think I would probably
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: play if I'm playing Bryce Young captain, I would probably
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: use at least two pass catchers, which would include Chuba Hubbard.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Any thoughts on that?
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I was looking at my phone.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: You said if you played Bryce, you would play Chuba
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: or would not?
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: No, the thought was if you're playing Bryce Young, captain. Yeah,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, yeah.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: The thought was if you're playing Bryce Young, captain.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you. Would you force two pass catchers?
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, down goes juice, by the way. What's up? You, Shaq,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: got hurt. Sorry, I interrupted you. If I'm playing Bryce
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Young captain, what's the question?
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Would you force two pass catchers? I think you kind
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: of do. One of them being, including Chuba Hover. Just because,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know Bryce Young can run, but I mean,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: his rushing prop's 14 and a half, which heavy juice
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: to be under there.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, to me, it's two pass catchers for sure.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I just think there's so many, I think there's so
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: many pass catchers to go around, right. To filter through.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got three tight ends that get involved.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: You got tat and all these other guys. So yeah,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I do like that.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Did you just see what Hawkinson just did? He fell
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: down at the one. He didn't score. They would have, they,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: he would have, Oh my gosh. Hawkinson fell down at
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: the one game over.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he just said, screw, I'm not going to score.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: He wasn't like that selfish guy for the Giants who
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: ran it back 100 yards.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that is the right play. That is
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: the right play overall. 100%.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Game's over.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: He's not selfish like that guy on the Giants that
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: ran it back 100 yards for no reason.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just tilting myself. I mean, my gosh, what
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: a horrible, horrible 2v2 swaparoo there.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: It happens.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just free fucking falling down the cliff here.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: When will these losers put out their inactives? Oh, Jalen
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Coker's inactive.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: We knew that.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: All right, yeah. So let me get the inactives, and
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: then we can, I think... If you want to give
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: a play of the day, we can then jump out
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: of here.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Tataroya McMillan.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on IR. We knew that. So, inactives. Lions, nothing. So...
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Hold on. I'm signed out of Twitter for some reason.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Do you have the full, is there any other surprises ones?
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Obviously we knew Jalen Coker was going to be inactive,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: but any, other ones?
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: That's the only one that they've posted so far. And Detroit,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: for whatever reason, hasn't listed theirs.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Let me see. Chat, does anyone else have any– Ben Bartsch,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Tyler Conklin. Yeah, no starters. Yeah, no starters.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Nah, Devin White. The corpse of Devin White. Yeah. And
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's down bad.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Good grief.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Fuck T.J. Hawkinson, man. I'm just kicking myself.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: What a, what a, just a great play, but that
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: was a great play by him.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: It was a very smart play. That's 100% the right.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: That's winning football.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: That's why you're four and O cause you make plays
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: like that. All right.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I think a play of the day, Pam play of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: McMillan.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. You really went on a limb there. Congratulations.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: McMillan does his best Garrett Wilson impression. He's on the winner.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: He's in the captain. Love it. All right.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going Bryce Young, Captain. I think Bryce Young, I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: think the quarterbacks are getting sold here overall. It's definitely
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young up top. I like Bryce Young a ton, 14-7.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go in and just play Bryce
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Young with Darren Waller and Ted McMillan in the flex
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: like everyone else is. I think going to some of
• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:55
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• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: play just see him read down at 200 bucks. So
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I do like that quite a bit. That's going to
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: be kind of my stand here tonight. Bryce Young, captain,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: with at least two pass catchers, including Chuba Hubbard, into
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: that rule there is how I see it. Any additional
• 1:01:15
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:22
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