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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one hundred and seventy six of
- 0:03Speaker 1: the Death of Journalism Podcasts.
- 0:04Speaker 2: My name is John Zigler. I'm your host on today's show.
- 0:07Speaker 1: The post Biden withdraw polling trends or causing a lot
- 0:10Speaker 1: of controversy and probably not nearly enough concern in the
- 0:14Speaker 1: Trump camp. The mainstream news media decides they're just gonna
- 0:17Speaker 1: play pretend about Kamala Harris's history. Biden's belated with draw
- 0:22Speaker 1: speech doesn't get the scrutiny it deserves, and the super
- 0:26Speaker 1: woke opening ceremony of the Olympics causes outrage, especially.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Among politically conservative Christians.
- 0:34Speaker 1: We begin this episode of the podcast with a couple
- 0:36Speaker 1: of programming notes. I am taping this episode a little
- 0:41Speaker 1: less than a day earlier than normal for logistical reasons,
- 0:46Speaker 1: and unfortunately this unleashed a domino effect of problems I
- 0:52Speaker 1: had intended when I normally try to do. When I
- 0:56Speaker 1: do it episode early for travel or logistical I try
- 1:01Speaker 1: to get an interview that might be unique. When we
- 1:04Speaker 1: went to Yosemite, I did an interview with my wife.
- 1:07Speaker 2: I've done an interview with my daughter, and I.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Thought that since I had talked a lot recently, about
- 1:13Speaker 1: my father, my eighty three year old father, who received
- 1:17Speaker 1: some apparently inside information about the Biden with draw and
- 1:21Speaker 1: sent me an email about it. And I've discussed it
- 1:23Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I'm still not sure whether or
- 1:26Speaker 1: not it was real, or to what extent it was real,
- 1:28Speaker 1: and what the source of it was. I thought, well,
- 1:30Speaker 1: you know what, he's not in great health. He's eighty
- 1:32Speaker 1: three years old. We've been discussing him on the podcast.
- 1:36Speaker 1: I'll ask him to do an interview on the death
- 1:39Speaker 1: of journalism, and you know, this will kill several birds
- 1:42Speaker 1: with one stone. And at first he didn't like the idea,
- 1:47Speaker 1: and I pushed him a little bit and he kind
- 1:49Speaker 1: of turned around, and so we tried to make it happen.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it was a comedy of errors.
- 1:56Speaker 1: From a technical standpoint, part of it was my fault,
- 2:01Speaker 1: but mostly I think it was the fact that he
- 2:04Speaker 1: is eighty three years old and not particularly technically proficient
- 2:08Speaker 1: with a computer, and so he was not able to
- 2:10Speaker 1: figure out how to get into our recruiting studio.
- 2:14Speaker 2: It caused a bit of friction.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not we're going to try
- 2:17Speaker 1: to do it again in the future. He says, he
- 2:19Speaker 1: does want to, although that was part of this equation
- 2:22Speaker 1: that bothered me was when he decided he would do
- 2:25Speaker 1: the interview, he put all sorts of restrictions on what
- 2:29Speaker 1: I could talk about, or what I could ask about,
- 2:31Speaker 1: or what he was feeling comfortable discussing, which I always hate,
- 2:34Speaker 1: especially when it's somebody that you're close to, because then
- 2:36Speaker 1: you're never sure what am I supposed to get into.
- 2:39Speaker 2: What can I talk about? What I can't talk about?
- 2:42Speaker 1: So I kind of just put the kebash on the
- 2:45Speaker 1: whole thing once it was clear that the technical aspects
- 2:47Speaker 1: were not going to be able to be overcome, and
- 2:51Speaker 1: so there will be no interview in this episode of
- 2:54Speaker 1: the podcast. And I also have a rather poorly timed
- 2:58Speaker 1: cold or flu bu that is weighing me down on this.
- 3:02Speaker 1: So I've got all sorts of excuses if this is
- 3:06Speaker 1: not one of our better episodes. So we're taping early
- 3:10Speaker 1: for the record. If anything happens Sunday evening or early Monday,
- 3:13Speaker 1: it's not going to be part of this podcast. And
- 3:16Speaker 1: I'm kind of irritated by what happened with the attempt
- 3:19Speaker 1: to interview my father, and I'm not feeling particularly well,
- 3:21Speaker 1: but that's.
- 3:23Speaker 2: That's all the excuses out of the way.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I feel like I'm playing a golf match and I'm
- 3:27Speaker 1: getting all my excuses out before the first tea. But
- 3:31Speaker 1: that's where we are as far as what went on
- 3:33Speaker 1: behind the scenes on this particular episode. Now, in the
- 3:36Speaker 1: last episode of the podcast, I talked a lot about
- 3:39Speaker 1: the very very preliminary polling that was done between Kamala
- 3:44Speaker 1: Harris and Donald Trump post Joe Biden withdraw and at
- 3:48Speaker 1: that time there was very very little data, but it
- 3:52Speaker 1: was my sense that where the data was heading was
- 3:56Speaker 1: not good.
- 3:58Speaker 2: If you're somebody like myself who.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Who is now openly rooting against Kamala Harris, I guess
- 4:04Speaker 1: that means I'm rooting for Donald Trump, even though I
- 4:06Speaker 1: have not decided whether or not to vote for him
- 4:08Speaker 1: at this point.
- 4:08Speaker 2: I would not vote for him.
- 4:09Speaker 1: If it was today for reasons actually I'll get into
- 4:12Speaker 1: later on in this episode of the podcast, but I
- 4:14Speaker 1: am certainly rooting against Kamala Harris because I think she's very,
- 4:18Speaker 1: very dangerous and she can serve for eight years as
- 4:21Speaker 1: opposed to four years.
- 4:22Speaker 2: For Joe Biden.
- 4:24Speaker 1: But at the time in the last episode, I said
- 4:28Speaker 1: this is not good because she is being allowed to
- 4:33Speaker 1: get out of port.
- 4:33Speaker 2: She's allowed to take flight.
- 4:36Speaker 1: The Trump team did a very poor job, especially at
- 4:38Speaker 1: their convention of closing off the escape patches for Joe
- 4:43Speaker 1: Biden and for Kamala Harris. They have not been forced
- 4:46Speaker 1: to pay any price whatsoever. And my dream, my fantasy,
- 4:52Speaker 1: that she would explode or implode immediately in the polls,
- 4:58Speaker 1: and this would be kind of a repeat of New
- 5:00Speaker 1: Coke phenomenon I already told you in the last episode
- 5:03Speaker 1: was not going to happen. Well, we now know for
- 5:06Speaker 1: sure that that's not going to happen, at least not
- 5:09Speaker 1: in the very short run, because the polling direction has
- 5:13Speaker 1: continued in exactly the same way that it.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Was in the last episode.
- 5:19Speaker 1: There's more data now, even on the swing state level,
- 5:23Speaker 1: that indicates that this is basically a tide race. Now
- 5:26Speaker 1: a lot of Trump fans are having a very difficult
- 5:29Speaker 1: time accepting that, but especially when there's still national polls
- 5:34Speaker 1: showing Trump up by one or two points. By the way,
- 5:37Speaker 1: just to be clear, when you're up by one or
- 5:40Speaker 1: two points in a national poll, that's basically a tie.
- 5:43Speaker 1: You're within the margin of error. And I get that.
- 5:47Speaker 1: And this is something that Trump fans really really are
- 5:49Speaker 1: holding on to this idea that, well, if Trump is
- 5:53Speaker 1: tied in the national polls, He's going to win because
- 5:56Speaker 1: he has an advantage in the electoral college. And we
- 5:59Speaker 1: saw that in twenty sixteen, and we almost saw that
- 6:02Speaker 1: happen in twenty twenty. And I get why there's that belief,
- 6:08Speaker 1: but I don't think that it's set in stone. I mean,
- 6:11Speaker 1: there's some logic to it, but I think it is
- 6:14Speaker 1: still very plausible that Trump could end up basically tied
- 6:19Speaker 1: in the national polling and still not win the election. Now,
- 6:23Speaker 1: of course, it would be exceedingly closed, and he'd have
- 6:25Speaker 1: to lose a bunch of states by very small margins,
- 6:29Speaker 1: like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and maybe one other. But
- 6:34Speaker 1: that in Georgia now seemingly is much more competitive in
- 6:38Speaker 1: the post Biden era than it was when Biden was
- 6:40Speaker 1: the candidate. So, you know, I get where people are
- 6:44Speaker 1: coming from on this, but I just don't understand why
- 6:47Speaker 1: there's not Well, I do understand because it's a cult,
- 6:50Speaker 1: but I don't understand logically why there's not more concern
- 6:55Speaker 1: among conservative analysts, Republican political people, trumpsters online seemingly the
- 7:04Speaker 1: Trump campaign itself. Why those who are in the fervent
- 7:09Speaker 1: belief that Kamala Harris must be stopped are not more
- 7:12Speaker 1: concerned about what we've seen in the first week of
- 7:15Speaker 1: data post Joe Biden withdraw. Now again, I want to
- 7:19Speaker 1: make clear, this is still a pretty small pool of data. Generally,
- 7:25Speaker 1: I like to wait at least two weeks after any
- 7:28Speaker 1: major event to see whether or not there's been any impact.
- 7:30Speaker 2: And of course we've.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Already had four major earthquakes in this presidential campaign, and
- 7:35Speaker 1: there's been very limited polling impact every single time, including
- 7:41Speaker 1: you know, the Biden withdraw has probably been the most
- 7:46Speaker 1: dramatic with regard to impact on polling, more dramatic certainly
- 7:51Speaker 1: than the Trump shooting, which is astonishing to me and
- 7:55Speaker 1: I think a very very bad sign for Donald Trump
- 7:59Speaker 1: because all of this, and this is my major point,
- 8:02Speaker 1: this is I guess where I'm the contrarian, where I'm
- 8:05Speaker 1: saying things and seeing things no one else, certainly on Twitter,
- 8:09Speaker 1: is willing to say from the quote unquote conservative perspective,
- 8:13Speaker 1: and that is you have to understand that all of
- 8:16Speaker 1: this polling is taking place still in the aftermath of
- 8:20Speaker 1: Donald Trump being shot and having this remarkably iconic moment,
- 8:27Speaker 1: which he was then able to and maybe you know
- 8:31Speaker 1: it was not a great idea to do this, but
- 8:33Speaker 1: was able to then magnify in four days of the
- 8:37Speaker 1: Republican National Convention with widespread television coverage. And so you
- 8:44Speaker 1: would think that having your convention just after you got
- 8:48Speaker 1: shot picking your vice presidential nominee, that all these things
- 8:53Speaker 1: would create a high water mark for Trump and that
- 8:57Speaker 1: therefore he wouldn't be so vulnerable to being caught by
- 9:01Speaker 1: a brand new candidate who has never been popular, has
- 9:06Speaker 1: never received an actual vote to be president, either in
- 9:10Speaker 1: twenty twenty or in twenty twenty four. And so I
- 9:15Speaker 1: don't understand why people aren't looking at it through that prism.
- 9:19Speaker 2: And in that context.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Steve Cortez, my friend who is a subscriber to the show,
- 9:25Speaker 1: have been a guest in the show many times, were
- 9:26Speaker 1: actually going to speak to him in a couple of
- 9:28Speaker 1: weeks or maybe a little less than that to get
- 9:31Speaker 1: his update on what's going on. He's currently working for
- 9:34Speaker 1: a pro Trump super pack where he's commissioning a lot
- 9:38Speaker 1: of a lot of statewide polling, and his poll was
- 9:43Speaker 1: in the field right when Biden withdrew a week ago
- 9:48Speaker 1: as of this taping in Pennsylvania, which is obviously the
- 9:53Speaker 1: most important state, or at least one of the most
- 9:55Speaker 1: important states.
- 9:56Speaker 2: I believe it's the most important state.
- 10:00Speaker 1: It certainly was to Trump's victory in twenty sixteen, and
- 10:03Speaker 1: Biden's went in twenty twenty, but his polling came back
- 10:08Speaker 1: with Trump winning by two points in Pennsylvania immediately immediately
- 10:13Speaker 1: after the Biden withdraw. In fact, some of that poll
- 10:16Speaker 1: was actually taken before Biden withdrew. And I said to Steve,
- 10:22Speaker 1: that is a terrible poll for Donald Trump.
- 10:26Speaker 2: And Steve totally disagree with me.
- 10:28Speaker 1: We generally don't disagree on anything, at least not vehemently
- 10:32Speaker 1: in the political realm, but he thought it was going
- 10:35Speaker 1: to be worse than that, given all of the pro
- 10:38Speaker 1: Kamala Harris mania surrounding the withdraw decision by Joe Biden.
- 10:44Speaker 1: And my point was, well, first of all, you were
- 10:47Speaker 1: in the field literally as this was happening.
- 10:50Speaker 2: In the first day or two.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Yeah, there was positive Harris media coverage and a lot
- 10:55Speaker 1: of excitement, and I get that it's a flipping a switch,
- 10:58Speaker 1: but in my opinion, this ridiculously pro Harris media coverage is.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Not going to have an immediate effect.
- 11:06Speaker 1: In fact that it'd likely have more of an effect
- 11:09Speaker 1: as time goes on. It takes a while for these
- 11:12Speaker 1: things to actually make an impact. And so the fact
- 11:16Speaker 1: that this happened, this polling occurred in Pennsylvania that Steve
- 11:20Speaker 1: commissioned for his pro Trump superpag to me should have
- 11:25Speaker 1: shown Trump up by more than two points. He was
- 11:28Speaker 1: just shot in the state, in the state of Pennsylvania,
- 11:33Speaker 1: and he just had his convention, and they just changed
- 11:37Speaker 1: the candidate to somebody who's never gotten a vote for
- 11:40Speaker 1: president in a way that should have caused all sorts
- 11:44Speaker 1: of problems. And I have to say I was seemingly
- 11:47Speaker 1: very wrong about my assessment. One of the reasons I
- 11:50Speaker 1: thought that it was going to be difficult to force
- 11:53Speaker 1: Biden out, especially before the assassination attempt on Trump and
- 11:57Speaker 1: Biden getting COVID, which I do think change the dynamic
- 12:01Speaker 1: rather significantly. I thought that they were going to have
- 12:05Speaker 1: to pay a price for the way in which this
- 12:08Speaker 1: went down and the way in which Harris became the
- 12:12Speaker 1: candidate just being selected, not elected. That this is the
- 12:16Speaker 1: Democracy Party, the Pro Democracy, the Saved Democracy Party, and
- 12:22Speaker 1: They're going to just do this and not pay any
- 12:24Speaker 1: price at all. I did not think that that was possible,
- 12:28Speaker 1: but it sure seems as of right now that they
- 12:31Speaker 1: have paid absolutely no price, and that my fear, my
- 12:36Speaker 1: gut instinct that somehow they were going to get out
- 12:38Speaker 1: of this trap, they were going to escape the news
- 12:41Speaker 1: has actually turned out to be more more correct than
- 12:44Speaker 1: I ever dreamed possible. Just generally does happen whenever I'm pessimistic,
- 12:50Speaker 1: it's very often that I will end up being wrong.
- 12:53Speaker 2: On the optimistic side. I'm not pessimistic enough.
- 12:57Speaker 1: And when it comes to the price the Demoocrats have
- 13:00Speaker 1: had to pay for doing this switch aaroo, I have
- 13:04Speaker 1: been completely wrong. And if anything, there's been no price whatsoever.
- 13:09Speaker 1: And that's being shown not just in Steve's pole, but
- 13:14Speaker 1: there's a Fox News poll of the northern swing states
- 13:17Speaker 1: that are all basically tied. And when you're tied right now,
- 13:22Speaker 1: granted there's a long way to go, but there's not
- 13:23Speaker 1: that long way to go. And but when you're tied
- 13:27Speaker 1: and you have all the advantages that Harris is going
- 13:30Speaker 1: to have with the media coverage and her convention and
- 13:33Speaker 1: her vice presidential pick, and I truly do believe that
- 13:36Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is going to be fully activated at some
- 13:39Speaker 1: point in these final months, and then you know, if
- 13:42Speaker 1: she's close, the media is gonna have this narrative of where,
- 13:47Speaker 1: you know, the history of the first female president. That's
- 13:51Speaker 1: going to be a huge part of this narrative. Meanwhile,
- 13:56Speaker 1: Trump has nothing. Trump's basically dead in the water. Trump
- 13:59Speaker 1: has nothing to theoretically change this around other than negative
- 14:07Speaker 1: ads on Kamal Harrison trying to tell the story of
- 14:10Speaker 1: who she really is. And I'm skeptical, unfortunately that that's
- 14:13Speaker 1: going to have an impact or as significant as an
- 14:17Speaker 1: impact as it should have, partly because I don't think
- 14:19Speaker 1: Trump is particularly good at this, and I think the
- 14:23Speaker 1: Republican Party in the Trump campaign waited too long. They
- 14:27Speaker 1: had her in a very vulnerable spot. And I was
- 14:31Speaker 1: screaming at the top of my lungs on this podcast
- 14:33Speaker 1: and online that they needed to triangulate Biden and Harris
- 14:37Speaker 1: and that they needed to force the Biden Harris team
- 14:41Speaker 1: to pick some lanes and to pay some price for
- 14:45Speaker 1: the lanes that they pick, and they did not do that,
- 14:48Speaker 1: and part of it I think was out of overconfidence
- 14:51Speaker 1: after the assassination attempt, and part of it was out
- 14:55Speaker 1: of narcissism of Trump during the GOP convention. But you've
- 15:00Speaker 1: got the Fox News poll basically showing the northern Swing
- 15:03Speaker 1: states tied. You have an ABC poll showing that Harris's
- 15:07Speaker 1: approval has soared in the last week while Trump's has
- 15:13Speaker 1: diminished seemingly by the way. Harris's donations have exploded, her
- 15:18Speaker 1: volunteers have exploded. She has raised a boatload of money.
- 15:22Speaker 1: There's no question that the enthusiasm on the Democratic side
- 15:27Speaker 1: has increased dramatically and understandably since Joe Biden decided to
- 15:32Speaker 1: get out of the race. But I think it's actually
- 15:35Speaker 1: even more concerning than just a lot of money and
- 15:39Speaker 1: volunteers and her personal approval gaining ground, especially in comparison
- 15:45Speaker 1: to Trump again right after Trump was shot. It's just,
- 15:51Speaker 1: how can we forget the context of this, the fact
- 15:55Speaker 1: that Trump has not benefited in his personal approval or
- 15:59Speaker 1: is standing versus Harris, you know, at least indirectly because
- 16:06Speaker 1: of the fact that he's survived rather dramatically and heroically
- 16:10Speaker 1: an assassination attempt. Is I just can't I can't say
- 16:14Speaker 1: enough about that. That cannot be overestimated as to how
- 16:18Speaker 1: stunning and potentially significant that is. But I see something
- 16:23Speaker 1: else happening with the Harris approval that might be underline
- 16:27Speaker 1: might and I realize, you know, they're gonna be Bill saying, well, Zig,
- 16:30Speaker 1: you're being too pessimistic and you're being an Eyore.
- 16:33Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.
- 16:34Speaker 1: I'm by nature a pessimist, although when people tell.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Me that that means I'm usually right.
- 16:41Speaker 1: And I think there's something to be said for what
- 16:44Speaker 1: I'm trying to articulate here, But I think there is
- 16:47Speaker 1: a potential death now in the Harris increase in her
- 16:53Speaker 1: approval ratings, because it's not just I don't think about
- 16:58Speaker 1: the fact that she's getting all this positive media coverage
- 17:00Speaker 1: and the enthusiasm among Democrats that they have a real
- 17:05Speaker 1: candidate and they don't have a vegetable running anymore.
- 17:07Speaker 2: I get it, that's part of it.
- 17:08Speaker 1: But there's a lot of Independence who are now seeing
- 17:12Speaker 1: Harris in a much more positive way. Her approval rating
- 17:15Speaker 1: among Independence and the couple of these polls has increased
- 17:20Speaker 1: rather dramatically, and I think what might be happening here,
- 17:24Speaker 1: and this is mind blowing and incredibly depressing, but so
- 17:29Speaker 1: typical of this upside down world in which we're now living.
- 17:32Speaker 1: I think that she is now somehow the anti old
- 17:37Speaker 1: white male establishment candidate, which is just bizarre because she
- 17:44Speaker 1: took part in a cover up to maintain the old
- 17:47Speaker 1: white male establishment within her party. And by the way,
- 17:52Speaker 1: Poles indicate that most people think that that's a true
- 17:55Speaker 1: statement that Harris knew that Biden was not capable of
- 18:00Speaker 1: running for reelection or serving another four years, and.
- 18:03Speaker 2: She went along with it.
- 18:05Speaker 1: So how the hell she becomes now the turn the
- 18:09Speaker 1: page candidate, the anti establishment get let's get rid of
- 18:13Speaker 1: the old white men, and let's elect Kamala Harris. And
- 18:17Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, instead of it being Biden
- 18:21Speaker 1: even older than Trump, Trump's the old guy and Harris
- 18:25Speaker 1: is the new generation. And hey, let's try a woman,
- 18:29Speaker 1: because you know, we're not happy with how men have
- 18:32Speaker 1: done this, but you know, especially the white men have done.
- 18:35Speaker 2: If you're a Democrat. And so I see that narrative.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Now starting to take hold among independent voters. And if
- 18:43Speaker 1: that is not reversed, if that is not reversed, immediately,
- 18:50Speaker 1: Trump's in big trouble. Trump is in big trouble because
- 18:54Speaker 1: him being the anti establishment candidate was a.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Huge part of his appeal.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Now all of a sudd bizarrely, the vice president of
- 19:02Speaker 1: the Unit of the States, who went along with a
- 19:04Speaker 1: cover up to maintain Joe Biden being the Democratic presidential
- 19:10Speaker 1: nominee even though he had no business being the Democratic
- 19:13Speaker 1: presidential nominee. The fact that she is now seen by
- 19:17Speaker 1: at least some is the anti establishment, anti old white
- 19:21Speaker 1: male candidate.
- 19:22Speaker 2: Wow wow. But that's where we are on this, and I.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Think there's something else going on that no one else,
- 19:29Speaker 1: or I shouldn't say no one else. I've seen a
- 19:31Speaker 1: few other people mention this on social media, so I'm
- 19:34Speaker 1: not going to take exclusive ownership of this, but I
- 19:37Speaker 1: do think that this is a fundamental miscalculation that I made,
- 19:43Speaker 1: then many many, many many others made about what was
- 19:46Speaker 1: going on in the polling before Biden withdrew, because I
- 19:53Speaker 1: was always a little skeptical of this narrative, but I
- 19:56Speaker 1: generally bought in to the idea that a huge part
- 20:00Speaker 1: of why Biden was so personally unpopular and why Trump
- 20:05Speaker 1: was generally beating him and looked like he would win
- 20:08Speaker 1: if the election were held in current time. Because I've
- 20:13Speaker 1: always said there's a chance that in the end, by November,
- 20:17Speaker 1: the cavalry comes to Joe Biden's a. This was before
- 20:20Speaker 1: the debate disaster, and he ends up winning a very
- 20:23Speaker 1: very close election.
- 20:25Speaker 2: But I bought in to the idea.
- 20:28Speaker 1: This was the conventional wisdom that a huge part of,
- 20:31Speaker 1: not the primary part of why Biden was so personally unpopular,
- 20:35Speaker 1: why his approval ratings were so terrible, and why he
- 20:38Speaker 1: was generally losing to Donald Trump, was that people were
- 20:42Speaker 1: dissatisfied with this administration, that they're unhappy with the economy,
- 20:47Speaker 1: that they're unhappy with the illegal immigration. That there are
- 20:52Speaker 1: substantive reasons as to why Biden's popularity was so poor. Well,
- 20:59Speaker 1: I am someone who fervently believes that when you get
- 21:02Speaker 1: new information, you must be willing and able to change your.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Mind about past beliefs.
- 21:09Speaker 1: And I am very close to doing that in this situation.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Because and the first clue that this was a reality,
- 21:19Speaker 1: and I did mention this on the podcast, but I
- 21:22Speaker 1: didn't put it all together. The first clue that there
- 21:24Speaker 1: was something amiss here was after the debate disaster. I mean,
- 21:29Speaker 1: this unprecedented debate disaster where the liberal media is leading
- 21:35Speaker 1: the charge to push Joe Biden out of the race.
- 21:40Speaker 2: We've never seen this before.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Now in retrospect, the liberal media was basically acting like
- 21:45Speaker 1: a campaign manager for the Democratic Party, deciding, yeah, yeah,
- 21:48Speaker 1: this guy's not going to cut it. We need to
- 21:50Speaker 1: find somebody else, and so we're going to do the
- 21:52Speaker 1: dirty work for you to facilitate that. That's essentially what
- 21:55Speaker 1: has happened. I mean, I mean, I've never I've been
- 21:59Speaker 1: watching the news for over forty years as a media critic,
- 22:02Speaker 1: and there's never been anything quite like this where they
- 22:04Speaker 1: just proactively decided to take over as the Democratic Party's
- 22:09Speaker 1: campaign manager. And we've seen that continuing as they ditched
- 22:15Speaker 1: Biden and are now praising Harris all over the place
- 22:18Speaker 1: and ignoring and pretending that all sorts of things about
- 22:20Speaker 1: our past never really actually happened.
- 22:23Speaker 2: But here's the fundamental miscalculation.
- 22:26Speaker 1: I now believe that because we did not see Trump
- 22:31Speaker 1: get a huge lead after the debate disaster, and even
- 22:34Speaker 1: after there was a couple of weeks of extremely unprecedented
- 22:41Speaker 1: negative media coverage by the liberal media against Joe Biden.
- 22:45Speaker 1: I mean, I even went on News Nation television. I'm like,
- 22:48Speaker 1: how is it possible that we have had this unprecedented
- 22:52Speaker 1: media revolt against the Democratic presidential nominee and incumbent president,
- 22:58Speaker 1: and Trump's only still up by a couple of points.
- 23:02Speaker 2: How is that possible?
- 23:03Speaker 1: And I was making the argument, then again this is
- 23:05Speaker 1: pre assassination attempt COVID that Democrats were actually making a
- 23:10Speaker 1: mistake because Biden was still in the ballgame here, despite
- 23:15Speaker 1: the fact that he was experiencing this unprecedented negative media coverage,
- 23:20Speaker 1: even from his own media, the left wing mainstream media. Well,
- 23:24Speaker 1: I now believe, based upon what we have seen in
- 23:28Speaker 1: the post withdraw movement, that the reason why there was
- 23:33Speaker 1: no massive or even something close to a massive post
- 23:37Speaker 1: debate bump for Trump or a post debate collapsed for
- 23:42Speaker 1: Biden in the polling numbers is that that was already
- 23:46Speaker 1: baked in that the public, even though the public is
- 23:50Speaker 1: generally a bunch of morons, the public already knew, They
- 23:55Speaker 1: already realized a long time ago that Joe Biden was
- 23:59Speaker 1: too old to do this, because we've all had experience
- 24:04Speaker 1: with people men in their eighties when they start to
- 24:06Speaker 1: go downhill and there's no coming back. And so I
- 24:11Speaker 1: think that the data now shows that the reason why
- 24:15Speaker 1: there was no post debate collapse for Biden is that
- 24:19Speaker 1: it was only a surprise wink, wink, nod, nod, a
- 24:22Speaker 1: surprise to the news media with regard to the Biden
- 24:26Speaker 1: that showed up at that debate, because they had to
- 24:29Speaker 1: pretend that this was new information. Oh my god, Joe
- 24:33Speaker 1: Biden is not capable of doing this job or certainly
- 24:36Speaker 1: not serving another four years four and a half years
- 24:39Speaker 1: in the White House.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Now.
- 24:41Speaker 1: I don't think the media really felt that was new information,
- 24:44Speaker 1: but they pretended like that was new information, and they
- 24:47Speaker 1: acted like that was new information. But the polling indicates
- 24:50Speaker 1: that that was not new information, and that is very
- 24:56Speaker 1: important in interpreting what is currently happened. Opening in the
- 25:00Speaker 1: shift in the post withdraw a post assassination, post GOP
- 25:06Speaker 1: convention polling, because if if the Biden disapproval numbers and
- 25:14Speaker 1: the Trump lead was based primarily in Joe Biden's age
- 25:22Speaker 1: and lack of mental acuity and the idea that there's
- 25:25Speaker 1: no way he could possibly serve another four and a
- 25:27Speaker 1: half years, if that is true, then that explains why
- 25:33Speaker 1: a new, young, quote unquote, fresh candidate is going to
- 25:38Speaker 1: be seen in a much more positive light and do
- 25:42Speaker 1: much better even in the swing States against Donald Trump,
- 25:46Speaker 1: even though she's a terrible candidate who has never received
- 25:50Speaker 1: a vote for president and has, you know, no business
- 25:53Speaker 1: being handed the nomination of a party that claims to
- 25:57Speaker 1: be all about saving democracy.
- 25:59Speaker 2: But it's it's because.
- 26:02Speaker 1: The bulk, the bulk of Biden's lack of popularity was
- 26:07Speaker 1: about his age. It's not because huge portions of America
- 26:13Speaker 1: are extremely dissatisfied with his administration and liberal policies.
- 26:19Speaker 2: I wish it was based in the substance, but I
- 26:23Speaker 2: don't think it was.
- 26:24Speaker 1: I think it was based largely in people being able
- 26:27Speaker 1: to use their own eyes and their own brains and going,
- 26:31Speaker 1: wait a minute, what's up.
- 26:32Speaker 2: With this guy?
- 26:33Speaker 1: He's too old to do this. That's an assessment I
- 26:36Speaker 1: think that the average American could make on their own,
- 26:40Speaker 1: and so when the media finally made it, it didn't
- 26:43Speaker 1: have much of any impact. And now that the age
- 26:47Speaker 1: issue is off the table, we are seeing the margins
- 26:51Speaker 1: between Trump and Harris diminish significantly.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Now. To be clear, they haven't completely evaporated.
- 27:00Speaker 1: In some holes they have, but you know, you can
- 27:03Speaker 1: still argue, based upon the data that Trump is leading
- 27:06Speaker 1: by the skin of his teeth nationally and still maybe
- 27:11Speaker 1: winning in the electoral College.
- 27:13Speaker 2: But again, this is.
- 27:15Speaker 1: In the aftermath of him having been shot picked his
- 27:18Speaker 1: vice president and having had his GOP convention.
- 27:25Speaker 2: That should not be the situation.
- 27:28Speaker 1: And get I get that, there's the shiny new object phenomenon,
- 27:31Speaker 1: and I think the big question is here, Okay, is
- 27:37Speaker 1: this Harris bump? You know, you might call it a surge.
- 27:42Speaker 1: It's not quite a surge yet, But is this Harris bump?
- 27:46Speaker 1: Is this her high water mark? Or is this just
- 27:50Speaker 1: the beginning? And I think you could make an argument
- 27:54Speaker 1: that it may not be just the beginning, but this
- 27:58Speaker 1: isn't the end. I mean, I've told talked before about
- 28:01Speaker 1: how she has a lot of cards to play, She
- 28:04Speaker 1: has her vice presidential nominee, her convention. The debates I
- 28:09Speaker 1: think are gonna work very much in her favor should
- 28:12Speaker 1: they happen. And now the Trump team is backing off
- 28:16Speaker 1: of that, and the Harris team is trying to claim,
- 28:18Speaker 1: bizarrely that Trump is backing off in agreement that he
- 28:22Speaker 1: didn't make with her, he made with Joe Biden.
- 28:24Speaker 2: But this is the bizarre world we're now living in.
- 28:26Speaker 1: But if those debates happen, I think they're going to
- 28:30Speaker 1: play very much in Harris's favor. She'll do much better
- 28:33Speaker 1: than Biden did, and that's gonna be what she'll be
- 28:36Speaker 1: compared against.
- 28:37Speaker 2: And Trump is terrible at debates.
- 28:40Speaker 1: So and you know, I've already mentioned the Taylor Swift
- 28:44Speaker 1: thing and other elements that she will have because the
- 28:47Speaker 1: media will be completely on her side. And then there's
- 28:50Speaker 1: the Trump sentencing situation in September. I mean, there's all
- 28:53Speaker 1: sorts of theoretical circumstances that could play to her advantage,
- 28:59Speaker 1: and it's hard for me to come up with any
- 29:02Speaker 1: that would do the same for Donald Trump in the
- 29:04Speaker 1: final months of this campaign.
- 29:07Speaker 2: But just to be.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Clear, I don't know whether or not this is Harris's
- 29:11Speaker 1: high water mark, or whether or not this is just
- 29:14Speaker 1: an indication of where this is now heading.
- 29:17Speaker 2: I don't know. No one does.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Anyone that tells you they have the answer to that
- 29:21Speaker 1: is not telling the truth. But I'm telling you it's
- 29:25Speaker 1: possible that this is just the beginning. It's possible that
- 29:29Speaker 1: and I want to underline possible, it is possible that
- 29:32Speaker 1: Trump is in big trouble here, and that this whole
- 29:35Speaker 1: situation has been.
- 29:37Speaker 2: A remarkable In fact, there's no way a lot of.
- 29:40Speaker 1: People that are now claiming conspiracy theories and that this
- 29:44Speaker 1: was all part of the democratic plan.
- 29:45Speaker 2: There's no way Democrats are this smart. They're just not
- 29:48Speaker 2: this smart. This can only happen by luck.
- 29:51Speaker 1: But this is the luckiest set of circumstances that I've
- 29:55Speaker 1: ever seen in presidential politics. If it holds, and that's
- 29:59Speaker 1: still a big I don't want to I'm not making
- 30:01Speaker 1: any prediction yet about you know, who's going to win
- 30:04Speaker 1: this race. I will say that right now, if the
- 30:08Speaker 1: election were next week, this would.
- 30:10Speaker 2: Be a very, very close election.
- 30:14Speaker 1: We're basically in the same situation as we were after
- 30:18Speaker 1: Trump's bogus thirty four felony convictions in my mind, where
- 30:23Speaker 1: he might win a squeaker, but he might not, depending
- 30:27Speaker 1: on which way the wind is blowing and turn out
- 30:29Speaker 1: and all those sorts of things. And one of the
- 30:32Speaker 1: things that is now working to Trump's disadvantage all of
- 30:36Speaker 1: a sudden, and the data is now more clear than
- 30:40Speaker 1: it has been to date, because this is something I've
- 30:43Speaker 1: been watching for basically a year, is that the RFK
- 30:48Speaker 1: Junior effect is now working against Donald Trump.
- 30:53Speaker 2: That is now clear.
- 30:56Speaker 1: There are I think at least four polls that have
- 30:58Speaker 1: come out in the last past few days where Trump
- 31:02Speaker 1: actually does better in the head to head matchup with
- 31:07Speaker 1: Harris than he does when you add in RFK Junior
- 31:11Speaker 1: and all of the other candidates, which has never been
- 31:16Speaker 1: the case. There's been isolated polls that have indicated that,
- 31:19Speaker 1: but there's never been a very clear cut series of
- 31:24Speaker 1: polls that I can remember, which all showed almost exactly
- 31:28Speaker 1: the same phenomenon, which is that RFK Junior is now
- 31:32Speaker 1: harming Donald Trump in a multi candidate race by at
- 31:37Speaker 1: least a point or two, and in the swing states
- 31:40Speaker 1: that can be very, very decisive. So basically, what I
- 31:44Speaker 1: think has happened is that before the Biden withdraw RFK
- 31:49Speaker 1: jor provided an off ramp for a lot of liberal
- 31:53Speaker 1: Democrats who just couldn't pull the trigger for Joe Biden
- 31:58Speaker 1: because he was too old. Well, now that that issue
- 32:01Speaker 1: is off the table, they're coming back home to Harris,
- 32:05Speaker 1: and so the people that are still voting for RFK
- 32:08Speaker 1: Junior are people who might be in the Trump camp
- 32:12Speaker 1: if it was just Trump versus Harris.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Now, there's been some talk, and.
- 32:17Speaker 1: We played a clip a couple episodes ago after the
- 32:19Speaker 1: assassination attempt where Trump and RFK Junior had a phone
- 32:23Speaker 1: call that was awfully friendly, and it certainly seemed as
- 32:26Speaker 1: if Trump was floating the idea of a job within
- 32:30Speaker 1: his administration for RFK Junior. So it doesn't take a
- 32:33Speaker 1: rocket scientist to figure out that there could be a
- 32:36Speaker 1: situation where RFK Junior withdraws from the race and endorses
- 32:41Speaker 1: Donald Trump, which would be weird, but I certainly think
- 32:45Speaker 1: that is in both of their best interests because RFK
- 32:49Speaker 1: Junior is now done. There was a blip of a
- 32:52Speaker 1: one poll after the withdraw in New Hampshire that showed
- 32:56Speaker 1: RFK Junior getting up to twenty one percent. I thought, wow,
- 32:58Speaker 1: that's weird, but New Hampshire can sometimes be a weird state,
- 33:02Speaker 1: and it was just a guess, a one off outlier.
- 33:05Speaker 1: But now it is very clear that RFK Junior ain't
- 33:09Speaker 1: going to make any sort of impact. He ain't going
- 33:10Speaker 1: to make the debates, and so he's going to be
- 33:13Speaker 1: looking for some way to get out of this in
- 33:15Speaker 1: theory and save some face and maybe get something out
- 33:19Speaker 1: of it should Trump win. And so now the self
- 33:22Speaker 1: interests are aligned for Trump and RFK Junior to make
- 33:27Speaker 1: a deal, whether or not that will happen, I don't know,
- 33:30Speaker 1: but it certainly would make a lot of sense I
- 33:33Speaker 1: want to address, and I'm sure this is not gonna
- 33:35Speaker 1: be the last time I do this, the issue of
- 33:38Speaker 1: how Trump fans and the Trump campaign seem to not
- 33:43Speaker 1: be getting it as to how dangerous the situation Trump
- 33:48Speaker 1: is in currently, it is inconceivable to the Trump fans
- 33:55Speaker 1: and to I guess you would call them conservatives, right wingers, Republicans.
- 33:59Speaker 1: I never even know what to call that group of
- 34:02Speaker 1: people anymore because all the definitions in the Trump era
- 34:06Speaker 1: have been completely bastardized. But people who would I guess
- 34:09Speaker 1: vote Republican, it is inconceivable to them that Kamala Harris
- 34:14Speaker 1: could survive an onslaught of negative attacks given just how
- 34:20Speaker 1: incredibly liberal, how woke, how socialist she is, how clear
- 34:25Speaker 1: cut she is, especially in her twenty twenty failed presidential
- 34:30Speaker 1: campaign that was a disaster. People have to remember, I'm
- 34:34Speaker 1: a big believer in this when it comes to politics.
- 34:37Speaker 1: You know, when you have a situation where a Kamala
- 34:40Speaker 1: Harris was fairly unknown, seen as a woman of color,
- 34:44Speaker 1: although originally she was seen as an Indian woman. Now
- 34:47Speaker 1: she's a woman of color, or maybe even a black woman,
- 34:49Speaker 1: because you know, the self interests have changed. But when
- 34:53Speaker 1: you're Harris trying to make a name for yourself in
- 34:57Speaker 1: a crowded twenty twenty presidential field, in a Democratic primary,
- 35:01Speaker 1: you're gonna take some crazy fucking positions, especially if you're
- 35:07Speaker 1: already you know, a woke liberal to begin with, which
- 35:10Speaker 1: I believe Harris is, But you're going to take every
- 35:13Speaker 1: crazy left wing position possible. You know, defund the police,
- 35:17Speaker 1: and you know illegal immigration isn't a crime, and all
- 35:21Speaker 1: sorts of other things that are related to that, because
- 35:23Speaker 1: you're trying to make an aim for yourself. You're trying
- 35:27Speaker 1: to get an audience, you're trying to get a base
- 35:31Speaker 1: of support, You're trying to light a spark within the
- 35:36Speaker 1: left wing of the Democratic Party where you could become
- 35:39Speaker 1: the new Obama. That's really what this was an attempt
- 35:42Speaker 1: to do. And now it didn't work because she doesn't
- 35:44Speaker 1: have Obama's charisma, and there were all sorts of other problems.
- 35:49Speaker 1: There were too many candidates, and you know, Harris just
- 35:52Speaker 1: doesn't have the Obama magic. But that's what she was
- 35:55Speaker 1: trying to recreate in twenty twenty. But now, well we
- 36:00Speaker 1: have a totally different situation. She's been vice president for
- 36:03Speaker 1: three and a half years, She's been handed the Democratic
- 36:06Speaker 1: presidential nomination without.
- 36:07Speaker 2: Getting a vote. The media is giving her the Obama treatment.
- 36:12Speaker 1: And maybe this is just because I devoted an enormous
- 36:15Speaker 1: amount of my life in two thousand and eight two
- 36:18Speaker 1: thousand and nine to creating a major documentary film called
- 36:22Speaker 1: Medium Malpractice How Obama got elected and Pallin was targeted,
- 36:25Speaker 1: which ended up debuting on The Today Show in an
- 36:29Speaker 1: interview with Matt Lauer that was very contentious and controversial.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because that was a huge part of
- 36:36Speaker 1: my life and career that I'm a bit baffled that
- 36:40Speaker 1: Trump fans or Republicans don't recall what happened there. Yes,
- 36:46Speaker 1: Barack Obama is much more talented than Kamala Harris, but
- 36:51Speaker 1: we all thought, oh wait till the general election, and
- 36:56Speaker 1: Obama's radicalism is going to be exposed and the American
- 37:01Speaker 1: people are just not going to buy it.
- 37:02Speaker 2: He's going to be too far left.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Remember his radical history and Bill Ayres and Jeremiah Wright
- 37:10Speaker 1: and all that. Well, you know, now, look, John McCain
- 37:14Speaker 1: wimped out in the campaign. Trump's not going to win out,
- 37:17Speaker 1: but McCain had a hell of a lot more credibility
- 37:21Speaker 1: and trustworthiness for the least independent voters to listen to
- 37:25Speaker 1: what he had to say.
- 37:26Speaker 2: About his opponent.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Now, he didn't take advantage of that, unfortunately. But Trump
- 37:30Speaker 1: isn't believed by huge portions of the public, and therefore
- 37:34Speaker 1: his commercials aren't going to be believed by huge portions
- 37:39Speaker 1: of the public. And it didn't work against Barack Obama.
- 37:43Speaker 1: The media totally caved, continued their hurricane wind at his
- 37:50Speaker 1: back that gave him the nomination over Hillary Clinton in
- 37:53Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. And while they don't have nearly
- 37:57Speaker 1: as good material to do it with this time in
- 38:00Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, they have other advantages. We've had sixteen years pass.
- 38:06Speaker 1: You know what that means, sixteen years of more conservatives
- 38:12Speaker 1: than liberals dying, sixteen years, more liberals than conservatives turning
- 38:19Speaker 1: eighteen and being eligible to vote. We've changed the voting
- 38:23Speaker 1: system in many states to make it much more easy
- 38:27Speaker 1: to vote.
- 38:29Speaker 2: And so there's all sorts of not to mention.
- 38:33Speaker 1: You know, Donald Trump is a convicted felon and highly unpopular,
- 38:37Speaker 1: which obviously John McCain was not. He was a war
- 38:40Speaker 1: hero and could appeal to moderate voters at least until
- 38:45Speaker 1: they destroyed Sarah Palin, which, so I guess I wanted
- 38:50Speaker 1: to ask, were you people not alive when Barack Obama
- 38:54Speaker 1: was able to get away with this and was elected
- 38:58Speaker 1: not once but twice? They very similar socialist radical history.
- 39:04Speaker 2: That Kamala Harris has.
- 39:06Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, were you not alive during
- 39:08Speaker 1: COVID when you saw that people weren't able to get
- 39:11Speaker 1: this on their own and where the country really is
- 39:16Speaker 1: on these issues that were not a conservative country anymore?
- 39:21Speaker 1: Were you not alive in twenty twenty two when everybody
- 39:26Speaker 1: I was not one of these people, but you know,
- 39:28Speaker 1: almost every conservative analyst and commentator told you that there
- 39:31Speaker 1: was going to be a red wave and that there
- 39:33Speaker 1: was going to be backlash against the socialism and the
- 39:37Speaker 1: wokeness and the and the COVID tyranny, And except in
- 39:41Speaker 1: Florida with Rondo Sandis, that didn't happen. So I guess
- 39:47Speaker 1: I'm just baffled as to what history are people.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Looking at here?
- 39:52Speaker 1: Yes, Barack Obama much more talented than Kamala Harris, but
- 39:58Speaker 1: Harris has other advantages, including being a woman, which are
- 40:02Speaker 1: being underestimated at the peril of the Trump campaign. Now
- 40:09Speaker 1: will telling her history work? I would like to believe
- 40:14Speaker 1: that the average independent voter, if they knew just, you know,
- 40:19Speaker 1: four or five key things about Kamala Harris's real history,
- 40:24Speaker 1: that it would very negatively impact their view of her.
- 40:28Speaker 1: And that's I'm holding out hope that that's still the case.
- 40:32Speaker 1: But when the media is actively rewriting that history and
- 40:39Speaker 1: Trump has no credibility in telling.
- 40:41Speaker 2: That history, I'm not sure how it happens.
- 40:45Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, You've got Elon Musk who owns
- 40:49Speaker 1: Twitter and gets tens of millions of views for every
- 40:51Speaker 1: tweet he puts out, and he put out a rather
- 40:54Speaker 1: hilarious AI fake audio of Kamala Harrison pain d which
- 41:01Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of heat for because he didn't
- 41:03Speaker 1: he didn't describe it as an AI fake. I think
- 41:06Speaker 1: he figured out that most people are thought that most
- 41:08Speaker 1: people would understand it was an AI fake. But yeah,
- 41:11Speaker 1: on Twitter, people are gonna know about Kamala Harris's true history.
- 41:17Speaker 1: But the people on Twitter are not those that are
- 41:19Speaker 1: going to determine who wins Wisconsin, who wins Michigan, who
- 41:24Speaker 1: wins Pennsylvania, who wins Georgia that that ain't it. And
- 41:30Speaker 1: in the media, well, they don't have nearly the power
- 41:33Speaker 1: that they used to when they all work together, and
- 41:36Speaker 1: they are clearly all working together right now, and when
- 41:39Speaker 1: Trump is terrible at this, and you know, and even
- 41:42Speaker 1: in his rallies, he's basically doing a stand up comedy
- 41:45Speaker 1: routine and not even focused on this Harris problem. And
- 41:50Speaker 1: he and you know, there's all sorts of issues with
- 41:53Speaker 1: his personal credibility that no one's gonna believe him in
- 41:56Speaker 1: anything that he says negatively about Harris. And he hasn't
- 41:59Speaker 1: even come up with a good nickname for her yet.
- 42:03Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I am very skeptical that this is
- 42:06Speaker 1: gonna work. I mean, there's numerous examples already of where
- 42:11Speaker 1: the news media is just flat out gaslighting and in
- 42:17Speaker 1: a George Orwell fashion nineteen eighty four type fashion, just
- 42:20Speaker 1: pretending that history doesn't exist. But we've got a government
- 42:26Speaker 1: website scrubbing the fact that she's the most was the
- 42:30Speaker 1: most liberal US senator back when she was in the
- 42:34Speaker 1: US Senator.
- 42:34Speaker 2: Just scrubbed it.
- 42:35Speaker 1: Just eliminated it, gone, poof, doesn't exist anymore. There's the
- 42:41Speaker 1: whole borders are controversy as to whether or not she
- 42:44Speaker 1: was the borders are which the media widely reported, and
- 42:48Speaker 1: now they're all widely reporting no, no, no, that was
- 42:50Speaker 1: fake news, that was Republican propaganda.
- 42:53Speaker 2: She was never the borders.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Are well, she herself tweeted out, this is a quote.
- 43:00Speaker 1: This is from Vice President Kamala Harris Potus asked me
- 43:05Speaker 1: to lead our diplomatic work with Mexico, l Savagor, Guatemala,
- 43:09Speaker 1: and Honduras.
- 43:10Speaker 2: To address the situation at.
- 43:12Speaker 1: The southern border. We have to address the root causes
- 43:15Speaker 1: of migration. It won't be easy work, but it's necessary.
- 43:19Speaker 2: What more do you need than that.
- 43:21Speaker 1: This is her acknowledging that she was Maybe czar is
- 43:25Speaker 1: the wrong word, she was the point person on the
- 43:29Speaker 1: immigration situation at the southern border. But now in a
- 43:33Speaker 1: way that's very very telling that they're very concerned about
- 43:36Speaker 1: how vulnerable they are on the issue. They're say no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 43:40Speaker 1: she was never. She was never that person that didn't exist.
- 43:44Speaker 1: By the way, here there's a couple of different montages
- 43:47Speaker 1: of the media flipping on this borders are issue that
- 43:51Speaker 1: have gone viral. I wanted to play least one for
- 43:53Speaker 1: you just to prove the point of the massive hypocrisy
- 43:57Speaker 1: and contradiction and flip flop to the media has done
- 44:00Speaker 1: on this issue. And here's one that got quite a
- 44:04Speaker 1: lot of views on Twitter.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Quote unquote borders are. Vice President Harris was not a
- 44:10Speaker 2: borders are being.
- 44:11Speaker 3: Time vice president and borders are Tamala Harris facing some
- 44:14Speaker 3: backlash what he said about Harris and immigration was not true.
- 44:17Speaker 2: She was never appointed borders are.
- 44:19Speaker 4: And this will be her first visit to the US
- 44:22Speaker 4: Mexico Border Regent since she was appointed as the borders
- 44:25Speaker 4: are by President Biden.
- 44:26Speaker 5: People gonna have to counter the misinformation.
- 44:28Speaker 6: You already hear folks talking about the borders are.
- 44:30Speaker 2: She wasn't the borders are.
- 44:31Speaker 1: President Biden tapped Kamala Harris, Vice President Kamala Harris to
- 44:34Speaker 1: be the borders are now.
- 44:36Speaker 2: She wasn't the borders are.
- 44:38Speaker 5: That's what Republicans labeled her.
- 44:40Speaker 6: They were very critical of Kamala Harris, especially in her
- 44:44Speaker 6: role as borders are.
- 44:45Speaker 3: Now what she's up against his folks line about her
- 44:48Speaker 3: border record, calling her.
- 44:49Speaker 1: A borders are Kamala Harris, who was appointed as the
- 44:52Speaker 1: borders are.
- 44:52Speaker 3: The Biden team didn't declare her the borders are.
- 44:54Speaker 2: They wanted her to work on kind of the root
- 44:56Speaker 2: causes of immigration. There has been so much criticism against
- 44:58Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. You know, she was the borders are.
- 45:00Speaker 1: Calling her sort of the borders are, which wasn't necessarily
- 45:04Speaker 1: the case.
- 45:04Speaker 3: So the border if they weren't planning to address it
- 45:07Speaker 3: in a major way, do not make her your borders are.
- 45:09Speaker 3: She met with some of the Northern Triangle countries, but
- 45:11Speaker 3: nothing has effectively changed.
- 45:13Speaker 1: But that issue is not the only one where the
- 45:15Speaker 1: news media is just gaslighting everybody and pretending it never existed.
- 45:21Speaker 1: There's the issue of her raising money for the rioters
- 45:27Speaker 1: in Minnesota after the George Floyd whatever you want to
- 45:33Speaker 1: call it, killing, murder, death, but that Harris was out
- 45:38Speaker 1: at at the forefront of raising money for people that
- 45:43Speaker 1: were violent rioters.
- 45:44Speaker 2: These were criminals.
- 45:47Speaker 1: And now we had this incredibly bizarre Orwellian situation where
- 45:53Speaker 1: the CBS affiliate in Minneapolis tweeted it out that it
- 45:59Speaker 1: was not true that Harris had done this.
- 46:03Speaker 2: This was not true.
- 46:04Speaker 1: This was, I guess more right wing propaganda like Harri's
- 46:07Speaker 1: not really being the borders are the point person on
- 46:10Speaker 1: the border. Yet there is this clip, which the Republican
- 46:15Speaker 1: Party at least somewhat smartly posted, immediately condemning the CBS
- 46:22Speaker 1: affiliate in Minneapolis for not even understanding their own history.
- 46:27Speaker 1: This is very similar to the Axios reporter, very same
- 46:30Speaker 1: reporter who a couple of years ago wrote about Harris
- 46:34Speaker 1: being the borders are the point person on the border,
- 46:37Speaker 1: claiming years later, when the self interests all switched once
- 46:41Speaker 1: she's the Democratic presidential nominee that no, no, no, that
- 46:45Speaker 1: never really happened, same outlet, same reporter. Well, this is
- 46:49Speaker 1: a clip from years ago, same media outlet that claimed
- 46:55Speaker 1: that this never happened, literally talking Tom Harris and confronting
- 47:01Speaker 1: her a little bit about the fact that it did
- 47:04Speaker 1: actually happen, and it's just been completely memory hold.
- 47:07Speaker 2: And here's what that sounded like.
- 47:10Speaker 4: I want to ask you, the Minnesota GOP is holding
- 47:12Speaker 4: a press conference this afternoon to criticize you for your
- 47:15Speaker 4: support a couple of years ago before you were the
- 47:18Speaker 4: vice president or something called the Minnesota Freedom Found that
- 47:22Speaker 4: was really set up to help those who are arrested
- 47:25Speaker 4: in the aftermath of the George Floyd riots, helped them
- 47:29Speaker 4: get out. It's since been morphed into something else and
- 47:32Speaker 4: has been used to help people get out who've been
- 47:34Speaker 4: accused of many other crimes. Do you have any thoughts
- 47:37Speaker 4: about this?
- 47:39Speaker 6: Well, First of all, I am a child of parents
- 47:42Speaker 6: who marched for civil rights in the nineteen sixties in America,
- 47:47Speaker 6: and I have always been and will always be a
- 47:50Speaker 6: supporter of peaceful protests. Many peaceful protests over the history
- 47:57Speaker 6: of our country have led to an expand rights and
- 48:02Speaker 6: an expansion of civil rights. So that's where I stand
- 48:05Speaker 6: on peaceful protest. And I think that unfortunately what we're
- 48:10Speaker 6: seeing people are playing political games right now. We're eighteen
- 48:14Speaker 6: days away from midterms, and we have sadly not seen
- 48:18Speaker 6: a lack of misinformation and disinformation, and I think this
- 48:22Speaker 6: is another one of those examples.
- 48:25Speaker 1: It just doesn't get more insane than that when the
- 48:28Speaker 1: very same media outlet, a news organization is claiming that
- 48:33Speaker 1: something didn't happen when they themselves documented that it did.
- 48:42Speaker 2: But I want to go back.
- 48:43Speaker 1: To this most liberal senator situation, because GovTrack a government
- 48:48Speaker 1: website deletes the reality that Harris's record was the most
- 48:54Speaker 1: liberal in all of the US Senate. And yet there's
- 48:57Speaker 1: a CBS National CBS television interview with Harris. That references
- 49:04Speaker 1: this exact reality, which she tried to deny at first
- 49:07Speaker 1: but then was basically clot in the reality of the situation.
- 49:12Speaker 2: And here's what that sounded like several years ago.
- 49:14Speaker 3: You're very different in the policies that you've supported in
- 49:17Speaker 3: the past. You're considered the most liberal United States senator.
- 49:22Speaker 6: I somebody said that, and it actually was Mike Pence
- 49:26Speaker 6: on the debate stage.
- 49:27Speaker 2: But yeah, well.
- 49:28Speaker 3: Actually the nonpartisan GUV track has rated you as the
- 49:32Speaker 3: most liberal senator. You supported the Green New Deal, you
- 49:36Speaker 3: supported Medicare for all.
- 49:38Speaker 1: But let's be clear, this level of insanity by the
- 49:42Speaker 1: news media is not isolated. It is pervasive, It is widespread.
- 49:48Speaker 1: There are so many different examples of it. Let me
- 49:51Speaker 1: just show you a small one that kind of shocked me,
- 49:54Speaker 1: and I tweeted about it, and it seems as if
- 49:57Speaker 1: a lot of people agreed with me. But Ben Smith,
- 50:00Speaker 1: it was the former media columnist for the New York Times.
- 50:03Speaker 1: He now works for an independent website. He's a mainstream guy.
- 50:08Speaker 1: I've actually dealt with him on the Matt Lauer story
- 50:11Speaker 1: and a couple of others where I had a fairly
- 50:13Speaker 1: positive experience with Ben and he wrote, quote genuine question,
- 50:21Speaker 1: who beyond the candidate gets credit for the Kamala Harris
- 50:26Speaker 1: or Kamala rollout?
- 50:27Speaker 2: But interesting that he says Kamala.
- 50:29Speaker 1: This has been controversy over whether her name is Kamala
- 50:32Speaker 1: or Kamala Harris, and some people have said that calling
- 50:35Speaker 1: her Kamala alone without.
- 50:36Speaker 2: The Harris is I guess sexist or racist or whatever.
- 50:39Speaker 1: But he writes, who beyond the candidate gets credit for
- 50:43Speaker 1: the Kamala rollout has just been incredibly well executed.
- 50:50Speaker 2: I nearly split up when I saw that.
- 50:52Speaker 1: I'm like, what ben of all people former media columnists
- 50:57Speaker 1: for The New York Times ought to understand that those
- 51:01Speaker 1: that are responsible for this, the glue that holds this
- 51:04Speaker 1: all together, the engine that is running this show is
- 51:08Speaker 1: the absurdly positive media coverage. It's amazing what a great
- 51:13Speaker 1: rollout you could do when the entire media industrial complex
- 51:18Speaker 1: is on your side and they've got enormous guilt over
- 51:21Speaker 1: having stabbed Biden in the back, and they're invested in
- 51:24Speaker 1: this gambit working because this has never been done before,
- 51:28Speaker 1: and so you know, it's just been a Comma paloosa,
- 51:32Speaker 1: as we called the last episode of the podcast. But
- 51:36Speaker 1: for Ben Smith to not understand this is just amazing.
- 51:40Speaker 1: I mean, it's clearly the media that deserves the most
- 51:44Speaker 1: credit for this, and the examples of the media coverage
- 51:47Speaker 1: of her being over the top and absurd are voluminous.
- 51:52Speaker 2: One of the funniest and.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Sometimes these are the most indicative of the reality comes
- 51:58Speaker 1: from the washingtoni magazine. Not that the Washingtonian magazine is
- 52:02Speaker 1: all that influential, but this goes to show you the
- 52:06Speaker 1: lens to which the liberal media is completely invested.
- 52:10Speaker 2: And delusional about Kamala Harris.
- 52:13Speaker 1: They had an article, could a Kamala Harris presidency be
- 52:18Speaker 1: a boon for d C's food scene?
- 52:24Speaker 2: Yes, she's magic, just like Obama. She's magic.
- 52:28Speaker 1: If she's president, it would be a boon for DC's
- 52:31Speaker 1: food scene.
- 52:33Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable.
- 52:36Speaker 1: But this is the kind of stuff that's happening constantly,
- 52:40Speaker 1: And you know, Trump has picked up on how dramatically
- 52:45Speaker 1: they have shifted on the Kamala narrative. But I don't
- 52:48Speaker 1: think he fully understands that. He blew an opportunity to
- 52:53Speaker 1: stop this, or at least blunt it. At one of
- 52:57Speaker 1: his rallies over this past weekend. He you know, did
- 53:01Speaker 1: it basically his comedy routine where he talks about how,
- 53:06Speaker 1: you know, three weeks ago she was a bum and
- 53:11Speaker 1: you know, now all of a sudden, she's the greatest
- 53:13Speaker 1: thing ever, which again is accurate.
- 53:15Speaker 2: But he doesn't seem to understand that he.
- 53:18Speaker 1: Blew it and it his campaign blew it and allowing
- 53:22Speaker 1: this to happen without any price to be paid.
- 53:25Speaker 2: And here is what Trump sounded like on that Biden.
- 53:29Speaker 5: But you know, he didn't want to do what he did.
- 53:31Speaker 5: He said, I'll never go out. I'll never ever go out.
- 53:33Speaker 5: Two days later, I'm proud to go out. Because the
- 53:38Speaker 5: fascists went after him. They threatened him with the twenty
- 53:41Speaker 5: fifth Amendment. They said we can do it the nice way,
- 53:45Speaker 5: or we can do it the hard way.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Joe, that's what happened.
- 53:47Speaker 5: I know as many people on that side as I
- 53:50Speaker 5: know on our side.
- 53:51Speaker 2: So to speak. But that's what happened.
- 53:54Speaker 5: They said we can do it the hard way, we
- 53:56Speaker 5: can do it the easy way, twenty fifth Amendment, you
- 54:00Speaker 5: don't go, and he said, oh, I'll go. And now
- 54:04Speaker 5: they're trying to make him into a brave hero.
- 54:06Speaker 2: He's so brave.
- 54:08Speaker 5: Last night he made her the other night he made
- 54:10Speaker 5: a speech behind the beautiful resolute desk in the Oval
- 54:14Speaker 5: office and look, I'm not looking to I want to
- 54:17Speaker 5: give people credit or not credit.
- 54:19Speaker 2: It was horrible.
- 54:21Speaker 5: And then you turn onto like CNN and ms DNC
- 54:26Speaker 5: the worst. They're just horrible, and they're saying one of
- 54:29Speaker 5: the finest speeches we've ever seen. I mean Churchillyan, somebody
- 54:34Speaker 5: said church at Winston Church and no, Winston had it
- 54:37Speaker 5: on him a little bit. It was so bad, and
- 54:39Speaker 5: they pretended.
- 54:41Speaker 2: It was good. And they're doing the same thing with her.
- 54:43Speaker 2: She was a bum three weeks ago.
- 54:47Speaker 5: She was a bum, a failed vice president and a
- 54:50Speaker 5: failed administration with millions of people crossing, and she was
- 54:54Speaker 5: the borders are. Now they're trying to say she never
- 54:57Speaker 5: was the borders are. She had nothing to do with
- 54:59Speaker 5: the border was the borders are. They're trying to take it.
- 55:02Speaker 5: They're deleting it all over the place. They want to
- 55:04Speaker 5: take it because we have the worst border in history,
- 55:07Speaker 5: and three and a half years ago we had the
- 55:09Speaker 5: best border.
- 55:10Speaker 1: Now this is a big issue for me, and I'm
- 55:12Speaker 1: rather pissed off about it, and I was screaming about
- 55:15Speaker 1: it at the time, both publicly and privately. But it
- 55:20Speaker 1: is now very clear that Trump and the Trump team,
- 55:24Speaker 1: and this is where the problem comes in, that nobody
- 55:29Speaker 1: has the balls to tell.
- 55:30Speaker 2: Donald Trump no.
- 55:32Speaker 1: I've talked about this all the time, about one of
- 55:34Speaker 1: my biggest problems with Donald Trump. In order to be
- 55:39Speaker 1: a good leader, in order to be a good president,
- 55:41Speaker 1: you have to be able to surround yourself with smart
- 55:44Speaker 1: people who are willing and able to give you truthful counsel.
- 55:50Speaker 1: And that sometimes means saying, hey, this is a mistake,
- 55:55Speaker 1: we need to go in a different direction, or here's
- 55:57Speaker 1: why this is not a good move. Well, it's obvious that,
- 56:02Speaker 1: especially after the assassination attempt, nobody was willing to do that.
- 56:08Speaker 1: And the entire GOP convention was nothing more than basically
- 56:13Speaker 1: claiming that God saved Donald Trump by keeping that bullet
- 56:18Speaker 1: from blowing up, blowing off.
- 56:20Speaker 2: His the side of his face.
- 56:22Speaker 1: That's that was the main point of the GOP convention.
- 56:26Speaker 1: Wasn't the only one, but it was by far the
- 56:29Speaker 1: primary point.
- 56:31Speaker 2: And look, I.
- 56:31Speaker 1: Get that the assassination attempt was a huge deal, and
- 56:35Speaker 1: you know, Trump's reaction was iconic and heroic. I thought
- 56:39Speaker 1: the way Trump started his convention speech was very compelling
- 56:42Speaker 1: and fantastic. I had no problem with any of that,
- 56:45Speaker 1: but they went way too far with it, and it
- 56:50Speaker 1: caused them to not do anything anything with regard to
- 56:55Speaker 1: cutting off these escape patches that Biden was and Harris
- 56:58Speaker 1: were still facing the finding Harris. There's all sorts of
- 57:02Speaker 1: things they could have done. There was a weakness of vulnerability.
- 57:07Speaker 1: And I understand that people say, wow, when your opponent's
- 57:10Speaker 1: shooting themselves in the foot, you stand back. No, that's
- 57:14Speaker 1: not what was happening there. The opponent was actually regrouping
- 57:20Speaker 1: and was strategizing a way to flip the script on
- 57:23Speaker 1: this whole thing. And Trump got bamboozled. Trump got caught asleep.
- 57:29Speaker 1: Trump did not understand that you need to define Harris
- 57:33Speaker 1: before she's the nominee. You need to set up the
- 57:37Speaker 1: predicate that Wait a minute, how can she be the
- 57:40Speaker 1: nominee and not.
- 57:42Speaker 2: Be the president?
- 57:43Speaker 1: Doesn't that mean that Joe Biden doesn't really believe she
- 57:46Speaker 1: can do the job. How can she not be better
- 57:50Speaker 1: than a decrepit eighty one year old man in that
- 57:53Speaker 1: office for the next six months. I still believe this
- 57:56Speaker 1: is an issue that could resonate. It's probably a little
- 57:58Speaker 1: too late, to do it perfect, but it's now obvious
- 58:02Speaker 1: Biden maate resigning from office, especially after his crappy speech
- 58:06Speaker 1: that he gave last week, and so make the Democrats
- 58:11Speaker 1: pay some price. Thanks for listening to today's free drop
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