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Mega Edition: Who Decided To Put Nicholas Tartaglione In A Cell With Jeffrey Epstein? (Part 1) (4/24/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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On tonight's episode, we're going to talk about Nicholas Tartaglioni
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a little bit and how he will not face the
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death penalty in his homicide case. Now, Nicholas Tartaglioni, for
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those of you who might have forgotten, was the man
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who was sharing a cell with Jeffrey Epstein the first
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time around when Epstein allegedly attempted to kill himself. Now
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the question is, why was a man like Nicholas Tartaglioni
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in a cell with Jeffrey Epstein in the first place,
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a man who was alleged to have committed some pretty
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serious crimes against some pretty serious people over drugs. Does
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that sound like the proper cellmate for one of your
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most prized inmates. Somebody that you know is a risk,
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somebody that you know could be extorted or hurt or
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whatever else you want to add into that mix. That's
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the guy you want to put into the cell with Epstein. Right,
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But somehow this guy who was looking at four homicides
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ends up in a cell with Jeffrey Epstein and then
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just coincidentally, Epstein decides he's going to attempt to kill
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himself with this guy as his cellmate. Now, before we
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get into the article, the updated article from a couple
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of weeks ago about Tartaglioni and his current case status,
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I wanted to do a quick refresher. So I have
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an article from the New York Post, a relatively short
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article that details what Epstein told his lawyers and stuff
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the day that he allegedly tried to kill himself in
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that jail cell. And it certainly doesn't match up with
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what the official narrative ended up being. So let's jump
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into the first article from the New York Post and
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let see what Bruce Golding and Emily Saul have to say. Headline,
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Epstein told lawyers that sell may Nicholas Tartaglioni rouffed them up. Now,
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why would Jeffrey Epstein tell his lawyers that he got
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ruffed up by this dude? If he didn't, if he was,
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if he attempted sue, if he attempted suicide like the
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official narrative says, then why would he even bring Tartaglioni
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into it? And furthermore, Tartaglioni says, well, I've saved his life. Well,
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if that's the case, why wouldn't you stop him from
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even making the attempt. You're in that little cell together.
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You mean to tell me you aren't aware that he
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was attempting to kill himself. See, none of it make sense.
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And the official narrative that they've pitched to us, that
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doesn't make sense either. There's never been a proper look
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at what went on here as far as the public goes. Oh,
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I'm sure that everybody trusts Bill Barr, right, Republicans, Democrats,
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everybody loves Darth Barr said nobody ever, Cer have never
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trusted Bill Barr, And honestly, I don't know anybody who does.
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So him telling me that he saw video or he
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has confirmed this or that is not very reassuring. And frankly,
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I don't believe what he has to say. Jeffrey Epstein
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told his lawyers that a hulking ex cop inflicted the
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injuries that left him nearly unconscious in his cell. Last month,
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A source close to the convicted pedophiles case told The Post,
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I mean, how how isn't there more being made out
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of that? When you talk to the legacy media, you
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know you had like the New York Times article that
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tried to wrap things up with a nice, pretty little bow,
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talking about how you know it's been solved and there's
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nothing here. I don't buy any of that, right, especially
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this first time around. What happened in this cell the
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first time around is even more dodgy than him dying
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in the cell alone. You don't just get ruffed up
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when you're in a cell with a guy like tartag
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Leoni on your own. You didn't just try and commit
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suicide all of a sudden. I just don't buy it.
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And there has never been a real good or proper
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examination into any of this. The footage gets lost, the
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cameras aren't turned on. I mean, are you kidding me?
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Right now? Epstein was treated for neck injuries following the
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July twenty third incident inside the Metropolitan Correctional Center in
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Lower Manhattan. Law enforcement officials have said at the time,
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Epstein was sharing a cell with former Westchester County cop
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Nicholas Tartaglioni, who faces the death penalty, a death penalty trial,
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and four drug related slayings upstate. Now again, this dude
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clipped people over drug trafficking, and the people that he
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ended up killing according to these reports, according to what
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prosecutors say, they were operators for the cartel. So that
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tells you the kind of serious player that TARTAGLIONI is.
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You don't get involved in something like this as a
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trafficker millions of dollars kilo's worth of blow and then
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have the audacity to execute operators from the cartel if
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you're not a serious person who's capable of serious, serious crimes.
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So again I ask you, is this the right guy
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to be in a jail cell with Jeffrey Ebstein. Epstein
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told his lawyers that the cop roughed them up, and
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that's why they got him off Suicide Watch, the sore, said.
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Tartaglione's lawyer, Bruce Barkett disputed that account, saying, I spoke
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to his lawyers and they never hinted at that to me.
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But he must have said something to get off suicide Watch.
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Of course he said something. This dude definitely tuned them up,
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in my opinion, and I honestly believe that I don't
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think that Epstein had any desire to kill himself, certainly
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not at this point. This first attempt. Now the second attempt,
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or the second time around, when he ended up dying
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still debatable. I've said it a million times. I'm not
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too sure what happened in that cell. We haven't seen
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all of the evidence. Can we see some of the video, please.
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All we're going on is what the official narrative has
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given us. And frankly, again, I have little faith in
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the official narrative. But this first time around, when he
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was in the cell with Tartaglioni, none of that makes
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sense to me. None of it has ever made sense
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to me. And the fact that it was basically brushed
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under the rug in the aftermath of Epstein's death, that
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doesn't make sense to me either. I do know that
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Nick was not brought up on any charges at all
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in the institution, so they cleared them bark it said,
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Oh well that's nice, you know, because the institution is
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just the infallible institution. They cleared him because they didn't
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want to deal with it, right, more egg on their face.
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Oh man, now we got to deal with this shit.
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Epstein gets assaulted by this idiot we put in the
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cell with him. And meanwhile, another thing about Tartaglioni, which
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is crazy, is a few weeks before he was even
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put into the cell with Jeffrey Epstein. They found a
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contraband cell phone in this dude's cell, so you get
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moved to a better environment, meaning off the main line,
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and put into a cell with Jeffrey Epstein for what reason.
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The dude should have been in solitary confinement by himself
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if he was found with contraband, But somehow he ends
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up in this cell with Jeffrey Epstein, and there's still
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again no logical explanation for any of that. It's simply
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patently false to say that Epstein did anything other than
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to try to kill himself at least twice and succeeded.
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When he succeeded, Barket added, we were a little worried
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that we would make up something to get out of
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suicide Watch or try and argue for Belle. But it's
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pretty clear what happened given the end result here. Oh yeah,
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pretty clear what happened anything to get your client off right,
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And now that we know that Tartaglioni's not even going
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to face the death penalty, it's probably a good thing
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that they fought this because he could have he could
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have got stuck with another charge here if he was
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found at fault, but I highly doubt that anyone even
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investigated it. Remember Tartaglione didn't decide to put himself into
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the jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. The administrators of the
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facility did. Who made that call? Can we talk to
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that person? Can that person get put under oath in
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front of Congress? Can we have real examinations of what
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went on here? Or no. The revelation came as Manhattan
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Federal Judge Richard Berman, who was overseeing the child sex
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trafficking case against Epstein, released a Monday letter to MCC's
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Warden in which he said that what happened on July
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twenty third remained an open question and it still does
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even Berman, the judge, says it was an open question.
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So where are all of these hard charging reporters that
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are all over the place allegedly how about you dig
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into this part of the story. To my knowledge, it
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has never been definitively explained what the Bureau of Prisons
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concluded about that incident. Berman wrote, absolutely right. In a
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response dated that same day, Warden, Lemene and Die said
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that an internal investigation was completed, but noted that current
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investigations by the FBI and the Justice Department Office of
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Inspector General will include this incident as well. Yeah, did it.
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Let me ask you a question. With that great report
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by the New York Times, did it include anything about Tartaglioni.
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It certainly didn't. And I asked the author at the
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time about that too. Of course, you know, never get
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anywhere with it. It's just almost laughable at this point, because
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if I don't laugh about it, it'll be completely frustrating
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the way they go about it. There are certain things
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in this story that need to be exposed, and this
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is certainly one of them. This whole entire episode here
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of Tartaglioni in the jail cell with Epstein is just
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so out of control. Accordingly, I cannot divulge any information
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about the prior investigation at this time. And DIY said,
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and remember he told that to the judge. It wasn't
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like someone asked him, you know, at a press conference.
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Hey can you tell us about what happened with Tartaglioni.
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This is the judge asking, and he says, nah, sorry,
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there's an investigation under way. The same excuse they use
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all the time when they don't want you to know
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what's going on. On Tuesday, Attorney General William Barr ordered
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the removal of Ndie from his post at the MCC
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after ripping the serious irregularities at this facility during a
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speech the previous day in New Orleans. Oh yeah, you know,
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because Bill Barr is so great at his job. How
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did it work out for everybody with that moron running
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the show? All right? So, now that we have the
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refresher course of what Tartaglioni's role is here and the
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question asked why he was in the cell with Epstein,
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jump into this next article from the Lowhood. And this
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is a paper from Westchester County, New York, the Lower
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Hudson Valley. And this is an article that was authored
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by Jonathan Bandler, headline lawyer's hopeful Nicholas Tartaglioni won't face
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death penalty as trial set and homicide case. Twelve times
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since last March, the US Department of Justice has reversed
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course and notified accused killers they would no longer face
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the death penalty. And I'm not really too big on
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the death penalty, to be honest with you, unless there's
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overwhelming evidence of course then for sure, But I just
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think that there's way too many instances of their being
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shoddy evidence when it comes to something as serious as
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taking someone's life. But when you look at cases like
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this and the evidence is overwhelming, I honestly think that
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this is the perfect example of what a death penalty
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case should be. Multiple homicides, multiple people murdered. Dude's an
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next copy knows better. So I would think long and
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hard if I was the one passing the sentence here
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or dropping the judgment on him, if we were talking
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about the death penalty, definitely somebody that, in my opinion,
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you would have to at least entertain the possibility. That
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is a promising sign for opponents of capital punishment, but
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a far cry from the end of the federal death
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penalty they had expected when Joe Biden became president. The
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piecemeal approach offers a glimmer of hope for Nicholas Tartaglioni,
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the ex police officer charged in White Plans Federal court
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in the killing of four men in Orange County in
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twenty and sixteen. So I guess when you're staring at
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a death sentence, any kind of hope is good. I
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can't imagine sitting there every day wondering what your fate's
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gonna be. But also I would never kill anybody and
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find myself sitting in a jail cell anyway. So there's that.
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Tartaglioni's trial has finally been scheduled for March twenty twenty three,
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nearly seven years after the quadruple homicide, but it could
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be moved up if the defense succeeds in getting the
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Department of Justice to reverse course on the death penalty.
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So he's being charged with the death penalty. Now the
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question is is that death penalty going to stick or
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is he just going to end up getting life in prison,
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because I highly doubt he's going to get off considering
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the evidence that they have, I highly highly doubt he's
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going to get off. The lead defense lawyer, Bruce Barkett,
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has declined to reveal any details of the defense case
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for why his client should not face capital punishment, just
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as he was mum four years ago when a similar
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similar effort failed under the Trump administration. Tartaglioni was a
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retired Briarcliff mat or cop who had also worked in
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Yonkers Mount Verning and Paul. So he's from my neck
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of the woods. And I've told the story before on
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the podcast, but one of my uncles was actually friendly
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with uh Tartaglioni's brother growing up, and they used to
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call him Tat tat in the neighborhood. Now, I wish
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I had more to give you, but that's all my
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uncle really had. They weren't, like, you know, super close
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or anything, just like neighborhood friends. But it's a small world,
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isn't it. And when I first was looking at this
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case and and and you know, saw this part of it,
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I just shook my head considering where this guy was from.
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I mean, it's crazy. I know a lot of cops
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that work in Yonkers, and for the most part, they're
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all really good people. So just doesn't shock me though
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to see a cop involved in something like this. Unfortunately,
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there's always good and there's always bad, no matter what
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the profession is. And some people like Tartaglioni, they get
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things a bit twisted up in their head and they
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think that they're above the law when they're supposed to
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be enforcing the law. He was arrested in December twenty sixteen,
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eight months after four men disappeared from a bar in
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Chester in Orange County that was run by Tartaglioni's brother.
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The day after his arrests. The bodies of Martin Luna,
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Miguel Luna, Urbano Santiago, and Hector Gutiades were discovered by
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the FBI and state police on property Tartaglioni had been
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renting at the time of the disappearance. So you see
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about the evidence here right, pretty grim when you're talking
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about against Tartaglioni. You know, you get these bodies are
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found on your property that you're renting after being at
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a bar that your brother owns. It doesn't look good
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for you, doesn't look too good for you at all.
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Tartaglioni is charged with conspiracy to sell cocaine and kidnapping
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and murder and furtherance of the conspiracy. Now what's interesting
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is if Tartaglioni gets convicted of this, with which I
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think he will, he's gonna have to hit the federal line.
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And A he's an ex cop, so that's a mark
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against him. B If he you know, if he did
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clip these people, which it looks like he did. These
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are cartel operatives. So you know that the cartel hasn't
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forgotten that Tartaglioni was trying to steal their blow, you know,
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trying to get in on their action. So they're going
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to have access to him in whatever federal facility he
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ends up in. If it ends up federal, or even
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if it's in New York, they definitely have a way
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to reach out and touch you. So you got to
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think that Tartaglioni, you'll get p sed up if and
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when his prison sentence starts. According to the prosecutors, Martin
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Luna had owed money for a drug deal. He was
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lured to the Liquid Lounge on April eleventh, twenty sixteen,
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and brought with him his nephew Miguel, his niece's fiance Santiago,
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and family friend Gutierrez, none of whom had anything to
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do with the drug deal. Well, that's questionable at best, Right,
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you're going there for a drug deal. What do you
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think he's bringing you there for. Obviously he was probably
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bringing these dudes there for muscle, right, But still does
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that mean they deserve to get killed over a drug
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deal gone bad? Absolutely not. And anybody who is capable
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of killing people over drugs is most certainly capable of
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assaulting a guy like Jeffrey Epstein in a confined environment
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like a jail cell. No At the bar, Prosecutors alleged
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Tartaglioni strangled Martin Luna with the zip tie before taking
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his body to the property. His co conspirators brought the
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others there, where each of the three were shot in
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the head. Prosecutors accused Tartaglioni of shooting one of the men.
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Biden's campaign pledged to end capital punishment at the federal level,
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has so far not led to an administration policy. Yeah,
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there's been a whole lot of that. Huh. Unfortunately, when
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we had the change from Trump to Biden, didn't I
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tell you, folks, it's going to be the same old,
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same old. Don't expect these radical changes, because that's not
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how it works. Those who were in power, the very
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few who were in control, they're still going to be
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in control no matter who the president is. Last summer,
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Attorney General Merrick Garland, another failure, issued a moratorium on
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federal executions while a review of Trump administration death penalty
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protocol changes was ongoing. But there has been no blanket
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policy on emptying federal death row or seeking the death
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penalty and pending in future cases. Like I said earlier,
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I think that we have to be very, very careful
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when it comes to sentencing somebody to death. And if
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the Biden administration is taking their time to review this,
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I think that's a good idea. Take as much time
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as you need to review something as serious as this.
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It looks like Garland is trying to fix the death penalty.
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It doesn't look like he's trying to end the death penalty,
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said Robert Dunham, director of the Death Penalty Information Center
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in Washington, DC. He pointed to conflicting signals that make
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it difficult to predict where the DOJ is headed. And
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you see that a lot with the Department of Justice
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in general, a lot of conflicting signals. You don't know
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which way they're going to go. One person comes in
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and you have a drastic change. Then the next person
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comes in, they change it. There's no consistent consistency and
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certainly no equity in the law. On the one hand,
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prosecutors have opted not to seek the death penalty in
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some recent cases. One involved the killing of a law
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enforcement officer in California, a case in which the Trump
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DOJ would have likely sought the death penalty. On the
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other hand, the DOJ is still defending death sentences on appeal. Well,
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they have to. What are they going to do if
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it's on appeal. They can't just drop all of those
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appeals in the middle of the cases. They'll get absolutely
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fried by the media and pundits and people looking to
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score political points. Well, one hundred percent, you can't just
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drop that stuff on appeal. You have to see it through.
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And let's be honest, a lot of the people who
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we're talking about here are pretty bad people for the
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most part. Now, don't get me wrong. There's definitely some
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innocent people who get caught up and end up on
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death row. And that for me is enough to be
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very very guarded and very strict about the death penalty
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and who gets it. Cassandra sub Stubbs, director of the
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Capital Punishment Project at the American Civil Liberties Union, said
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the moratorium at the gradual and the gradual about face
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on seeking the death penalty were a good start, but
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the lack of more extensive policy decisions is frustrating. It's
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encouraging that it's moving in the right direction, she said.
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The discouraging piece is, while it's a significant number, it's
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only half of the pending cases. The DOJ's withdrawal of
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the twelve notices of intent came in nine cases spread
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out around the country, in states that have the death
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penalty and those that don't. So again, whenever you get
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a new regime that comes in, they go over everything
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that the previous regime did with a fine tooth comb,
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and more times than not they get rid of a
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lot of policies and institute their own. That's just what
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happens when people get elected. While there is no clear
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common thread, one possible pattern does not bode well for Tartaglioni.
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None of the other cases involved more than two victims,
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and that's a big deal. I think that's a huge deal. Honestly,
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when you have multiple victims, we're talking serial killer here
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type shit, right, What is it more than three murders
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or whatever spread out during a certain period of time
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for a serial killer. But the point stands, if you've
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got three or four bodies under your belt, that's definitely
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not a good look for a jury or people who
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are going to decide your fate. Tartaglionis is one of
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six death penalty cases of the twenty three still pending
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that have at least four victims. Barkett would not say
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whether the defense has offered new details related to Tartaglioni,
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or whether they are relying on similarities to any of
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the other withdrawn cases to convince the government. Well, maybe
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you should give them some evidence about Jeffrey Epstein. Maybe
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you should talk about that a little bit. Nicholas Tartaglioni.
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And I'm real interested to see what kind of sentence
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he gets here. If he gets a soft sentence, boy,
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that's gonna set some people off, I'll tell you that much.
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It is possible that they are citing the harsh conditions
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of pretrial detention Tartaglioni faced at the troubled Metropolitan Correctional
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Center in Lower Manhattan. Life saving efforts by Tartaglioni when
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he was in law enforcement are almost certainly part of
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the defense mitigation efforts, and his lawyers could be including
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details of when Tartaglioni shared a cell with financier, pedophile
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and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein Alloy That would be interesting,
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wouldn't it. That would be real interesting, wouldn't it. I
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wonder what he has to share about that. Barkett has
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said that Tartaglioni intervened during Epstein's failed suicide attempt in
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July twenty nineteen. Tartaglioni was no longer his cell mate
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when Epstein succeeded in killing himself the following month. Now, again,
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why was Tartaglioni in that jail cell? Was he put
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there to send a message to Jeffrey Epstein? Look, bro,
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if you don't kill yourself, this is what you have
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to look forward to the whole entire time you're in jail,
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So you better fucking kill yourself. And then, knowing that
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he'd get moved out of the cell, he just denied
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that he ever did anything. That's certainly a scenario that
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has legs in my opinion. It certainly is a scenario
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that bears the weight of the facts, and short of
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any other evidence being provided or quality theories being provided,
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That's what I'm working with right now. This dude definitely
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was in there to rough Jeffrey Epstein up or ended
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up roughing Jeffrey Epstein. Up for whatever reason. But to
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think that this guy is some kind of hero who
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stepped in to save Epstein's life while he was trying
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to kill himself is just ridiculous. US District Judge Kenneth
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Carris was adamant during a conference last month that Tartaglioni's
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trial would begin next March at the latest. Barkett assured
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him that the effort to complete the de authorization package
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would not distract the defense team from moving forward on
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other pre trial motions. To Carris, the defense and prosecutors
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reached agreement on the schedule leading up to the trial,
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but they differed on how long of a break they
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should have between the guilt phase and the penalty phase
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if Tartaglioni is convicted of any of the death eligible charges.
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Prosecutors wanted a week. The defense sought up to four weeks.
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So they'll probably split the baby and it'll probably end
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up being two weeks. That's what we saw during the
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lead up to the Maxwell trial, and it seems to
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be the way these things work. The judge usually splits
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the baby here and they'll get half of what they want.
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It appeared Kris might disappoint both sides. He said he
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was inclined to start a penalty phase a day or
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two after the initial verdict, worried that a longer break
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would be unfair to the jurors. Well, that's what he
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wants and what he's saying he wants. But like I said,
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I wouldn't be shocked to see this end up ten
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fourteen days, you know, between the two. So we'll have
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to see and we'll continue to follow it because, like
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I said earlier, I think this is a portion of
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the situation with Epstein in the mcc at that jail
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cell that needs more discussion, needs to be looked at
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in a more clinical fashion with a surgical type of
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eye because there is no excuse or reason that anyone
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has presented to me as to why at Stein should
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be sharing a cell with Nicholas dar TAGLIONI. All right, folks,
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that's gonna do it for tonight's update on the way
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All right, everybody, I will talk to you all tomorrow
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and I hope you all have a great night. What's
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up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. When
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we talk about Jeffrey Epstein's first alleged attempt at suicide
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while he was in a cell with Nicholas Tartaglioni, there
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are a lot of questions that still have not been answered,
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and one of them I have always asked is how
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is it that the Department of Justice, the Bureau of
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Prisons can clear Nicholas Tartaglioni of any wrongdoing when the
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video doesn't even exist of what happened in that cell,
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especially considering we know what Epstein said had happened. Epstein,
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for a quick review, said that he was assaulted by
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Nicholas Tartaglioni. That's what he told his lawyers. But we
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get the narrative that he attempted to kill himself and
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Nicholas Tartaglioni, acting in his role as batman the caped crusader.
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I guess flew in to save the day and helped Epstein.
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But if we are looking at it with a clearer head,
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If that's the case, and TARTAGLIONI was interested in helping
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Epstein not hurt himself, why would he let Epstein get
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to the point of even having any sort of device
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or contraption wrapped around his neck. Wouldn't logic dictate that
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if he wanted Epstein not to hurt himself, he wouldn't
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let him do that in the first place. Considering how
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big he is, considering how strong he is, he could
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stop Epstein in a moment's notice. But he waits for
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Epstein to begin to hang himself and then steps in
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as this superhero, and all of the video just happens
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to disappear. I'm sorry, but I have a hard time
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believing that, folks. Now, if other people out there believe it, Hey,
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I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying personally, I
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have a very very hard time believing that. So today,
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once again hopping in that time machine, and we're gonna
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spin back to twenty nineteen August sixteenth. Today we have
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an article by NBC News author Rich Shapiro, Jonathan dentst
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headline Jeffrey Epstein's former cellmate cleared of wrongdoing an incident
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that preceded his death. The disclosure deepens the mystery over
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why Epstein was removed from suicide Watch in the days
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before he apparently took his own life. Jeffrey Epstein's former
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cellmate was cleared of any wrongdoing in the incident that
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left Epstein semi unconscious in his cell three weeks before
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his death. According to the cell MAT's lawyer and the
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source familiar with the matter, Boy, that's nice. Hell of
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a job by the Department of Corrections. Huh, hell of
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a job by them to clear a guy that shouldn't
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have been in the cell with him in the first place,
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without any evidence to do so. Just going on his word,
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I guess the disclosure amounts to the strongest indication to
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date that Epstein tried to take his own life on
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July twenty third, and deepens the mystery over why he
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was removed from suicide Watch in the days before his death, unless,
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of course, Tartaglioni was sent in there to send him
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a message. Now again speculation, but was Tartaglione sent in
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there to tell Epstein. Look, bro, we can get to you.
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Either you're gonna kill yourself or we're gonna kill you
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now again. Look, I don't know if that's what went down,
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but is that so far out of the realm of
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possibility considering everything we know? Tartaglioni should have never been
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in that cell. This is a four time loser for homicide,
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a man who was caught with contraband in his cell
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previously to this happening, and then he gets moved to
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be with the highest profile inmate in the whole lock up. Yeah,
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we're gonna need some explanations, folks. Epstein, the disgraced financier
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at pedophile who was facing federal sex trafficking charges, was
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placed under suicide watch after he was found in a
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fetal position with marks around his neck inside the cell
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he was sharing with Nicholas Tartaglioni, a former upstate New
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York police officer facing quadruple murder charges. Oh so, Westchester
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County is upstate now, Folks, Westchester County is Yonkers and
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Irvington and not really upstate. I guess for me, upstate
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would be more like Clifton Park or you know, Aubeny
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or something. The incident at Manhattan's Metropolitan Correctional Center was
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being investigated as a possible suicide, attempt, assault, or ruse
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by Epstein to get himself transferred to a different facility
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after he was denied bail on the sex trafficking charges.
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Officials said at the time, So, look, dude, I don't
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believe any of that. Okay, I think that Tartaglioni assaulted Epstein.
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That's what I believe. And unless they can show me
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the videotape that proves otherwise, that's what I'm going to
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continue to believe, because what sort of investigation can you
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possibly have done. Oh, we talked to both of them,
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and we decided that, well, we want to believe Nicholas Tartaglioni.
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Ah yeah, because you know, he's such a believable guy.
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It's like walking into a room and trying to decide
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who you're gonna believe, the Taliban or isis. But Tartaglioni's lawyer,
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Bruce Barkett, told NBC News that the day before Epstein's death,
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officials at the MCC informed him in an email that
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the internal investigation had concluded and his client would face
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no charges or internal discipline because it would look bad
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on them. They'd have to answer questions, right, why was
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he in the cell in the first place, Why do
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you have Epstein not in a secure area? Why is
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he off suicide watch? And they didn't want to answer
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any of those questions, so instead what they'll say is,
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nothing like that happened. Epstein tried to kill himself. We've
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always maintained and Nick did nothing wrong, and that's clearly
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been born out here by the jail itself. Barkett said, ah, well,
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you know, because those internal investigations, they're so thorough, and
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they always come back and implicate people who they were investigating,
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said nobody ever, you could take your internal investigation and
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shove it for all I care. How about an independent investigation,
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you know, an independent board comes in, independent investigators and
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they take a look. They'll never let it happen, though,
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because they don't want to be exposed. The problem for them, though,
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is their behavior is exposing them. A person familiar with
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the case can confirmed that Barket's account is correct, and
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a spokesman for the MCC declined comment, of course they did,
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and they'll continue to do that. Oh, we have no comment.
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We don't know what happened here. It's still under investigation.
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Federal prison officials have released no information on the July
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twenty third incident. Prison experts said the decision to take
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Epstein off suicide Watch, where he would have been placed
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in a special cell and observed on a round the
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clock basis, would have been more appropriate if the incident
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was determined to be an assault as opposed to be
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an attempt on his own life. So again, if he
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tried to commit suicide, why did you take him off
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suicide watch? So for me, all signs point to this
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being an assault in this jail cell. I can't fully
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confirm that. However, what this means is that whatever happened
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to Epstein was inflicted on himself, said Cameron Lindsay, a
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former warden at four federal facilities. And it looks like
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a pretty straightforward case if someone who wanted to die,
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Oh well, says the warden who has skin in the game.
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I don't ever trust these ex officials as far as
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I can throw them. Most of them come out and
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just do public relations cover ups for their old institutions.
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Lindsay said the prudent safe decision would have been to
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kept him, to keep him on suicide watch watch. Gosh,
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if I were him, I'd want to be dead, and
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I'm sure there are multiple multitude of people that would
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have wanted him to be dead. Lindsay said, it's corrections
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one oh one. Oh, I'm glad that you know everything
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about this, mister Lindsay. Who the hell is this Lindsay guy? Anyway,
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the prudent safe decision would have been to keep him
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on suicide Watch. Well, why was he off? Why was
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TARTAGLIONI in the jail cell in the first place. Until
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somebody answers that question, I don't want to hear about
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any of the other nonsense. Epstein, sixty six, died last
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Saturday in an apparent suicide in his cell in a
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special housing unit where he was supposed to be checked
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every thirty minutes. The death has brought increased scrutiny on
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the federal prison system, with lawmakers demand answers on how
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a high profile inmate facing up the forty five years
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in prison could be left alone after a previous incident
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that raised questions about his emotional state. Well, my guess
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is this, he was assaulted. The prison didn't want you
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to know that. So they said it was suicide, but
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they stepped on their own foot because Jeffrey Epstein was
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taken off of suicide watch and then he ended up dead.
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So when you start with the lies, you gotta keep
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them going right. The FBI and the Justice Department Office
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of Inspector General are investigating the circumstances of Epstein's death
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at the MCC. The judge overseeing the federal sex trafficking
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case asked for details of the incident after the MCC's
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warden filed legal papers to officially inform the court of
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Epstein's death. What an absolute nightmare this has been from
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Jump Street. I remember as it was unfolding, watching it
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in real time and shaking my head every five minutes,
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asking myself, what in the hell is going on here?
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How can any of this be a legitimate way to
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go about an investigation? One open question, among others, is
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whether the investigations referenced in your letter will include the
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incident at MCC involving mister Epstein on or about July
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twenty third, twenty nineteen, Judge Richard Berman wrote in his
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response dated August twelfth, to my knowledge, it has never
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been definitively explained what the BOP concluded about that incident.
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The warden, who has since been reassigned from the facility,
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responded the same day, but offered no new information. Of
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course not, of course not, because they're never going to
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give us the real information. And that's the saddest part
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about all of this. They don't want to look bad,
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so instead of bringing it to light so that the
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problems can be fixed, they'd rather just cover it up.
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And that's basically what this is at this point, right,
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a cover up. So you need to tell me that
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this warden le mean and I should have been shuffled
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to a different facil. He shouldn't have just faced the
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music and been held accountable for all of this. I
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can confirm that an internal investigation was completed regarding the
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July twenty third, twenty nineteen incident. The current investigations by
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the FBI and the OIG will include this incident as well,
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wrote the warden lemin and I. Accordingly, I cannot divulge
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any information about the private the private investigation at this time.
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And that's to Congress. He's talking to imagine us trying
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to get information from these people they don't want to
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give you any information because it makes them look bad.
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And then it's even worse when we find out shit
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went wrong and nobody fixed anything. So it's just the
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same old stuff. We should just expect the same exact
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thing to happen over and over and over again, because
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obviously it's not a big enough problem for them to
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address it. Meanwhile, the rest of us are sitting here
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saying to ourselves, how could something like this possibly even happen?
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And how can it be that they're still obfuscating the
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truth all these years later. All Right, folks, it's gonna
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do it for this one. If you'd like to contact me,
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