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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to this week on Capitol Hill, your insider's guide
- 0:03Speaker 1: to the story shaping Washington and the world. I'm your host,
- 0:06Speaker 1: Tony Perkins. Israel has voted. Now comes the challenge of
- 0:10Speaker 1: forming a government.
- 0:12Speaker 2: I'm hearing that in Israel.
- 0:14Speaker 3: That he, I mean, the top people are saying, wow,
- 0:17Speaker 3: he did a lot better than people thought. Sort of
- 0:20Speaker 3: like maybe a stalemate or a win.
- 0:24Speaker 4: But we'll find out pretty soon.
- 0:26Speaker 1: That was President Donald Trump weighing in on Benjamin Netanyahu's
- 0:29Speaker 1: election performance. Neither major bloc secured a governing majority. CBN
- 0:33Speaker 1: News Middle East Bureau Chief Chris Mitchell joins us from
- 0:36Speaker 1: Jerusalem to explain what comes next and what it could
- 0:40Speaker 1: mean for the broader Middle East. And can a limited
- 0:43Speaker 1: ceasefire in Ukraine open the door to a broader peace?
- 0:47Speaker 3: I don't know when we will have meeting with Russia
- 0:51Speaker 3: on the level of leaders.
- 0:54Speaker 4: It depends for today, with all respect.
- 0:58Speaker 3: To different countries, but it depends on our Russian side
- 1:02Speaker 3: because they never supported before.
- 1:05Speaker 1: That was Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. He joins us to
- 1:09Speaker 1: discuss prospects for ending the war, the fate of Ukrainian
- 1:12Speaker 1: children taken to Russia, and religious freedom for the occupied areas.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Then Congressman Michael McCaul responds to President Zelensky and examines
- 1:20Speaker 1: how Tuesday's elections could shape America's foreign policy and the
- 1:25Speaker 1: calculations of our allies and adversaries. And here at home,
- 1:28Speaker 1: House Speaker Mike Johnson has a message for voters watching
- 1:31Speaker 1: the polls.
- 1:32Speaker 4: And I'm telling you the polling is wrong. is off,
- 1:36Speaker 4: big time. You know why?
- 1:38Speaker 5: Because Republicans don't respond to polls anymore. They are oversampling Democrats.
- 1:42Speaker 5: Many of the pollsters are acknowledging that now. Do not
- 1:45Speaker 5: pay attention to the pundits. Do not pay attention to
- 1:47Speaker 5: the polls.
- 1:48Speaker 1: House Speaker Mike Johnson joins us to discuss the battle
- 1:50Speaker 1: for Congress, the cost of living, and the growing influence
- 1:53Speaker 1: of democratic socialism. And finally, should churches stay out of
- 1:57Speaker 1: political matters? Even when those matters involve truths, Scripture directly addresses.
- 2:03Speaker 1: A few thoughts on the church's responsibility to speak and
- 2:06Speaker 1: the Christian's responsibility to vote. All of that ahead on
- 2:10Speaker 1: This Week on Capitol Hill.
- 2:13Speaker 6: Today's edition of This Week on Capitol Hill is being
- 2:16Speaker 6: presented by AARP.
- 2:18Speaker 4: AARP.
- 2:24Speaker 1: This week, Israel held its first general election since the
- 2:27Speaker 1: Hamas-led terror attacks on October 7th, 2023. Turnout reached nearly 78%,
- 2:32Speaker 1: the highest since 1999 and up from the 71% in 2022.
- 2:39Speaker 1: But the result has left the Jewish nation facing another
- 2:42Speaker 1: difficult task, forming a government. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
- 2:47Speaker 1: his allied party won 53 seats in Israel's 123 seats.
- 2:52Speaker 1: 120-seat parliament, the Knesset, while the main opposition camp won 48.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Arab parties secured a record 19 seats. Neither camp has
- 3:01Speaker 1: the 61 seats needed for a governing coalition. What will
- 3:05Speaker 1: it take to form that coalition, and how could the
- 3:08Speaker 1: outcome affect what's been unfolding in the Middle East? Joining
- 3:11Speaker 1: us now is Chris Mitchell, Middle East Bureau Chief for
- 3:14Speaker 1: CBN News. He joins us from Jerusalem. Chris, welcome back
- 3:17Speaker 1: to This Week on Capitol Hill. Thanks for joining us. Tony,
- 3:21Speaker 1: great to be with you again. All right, give us
- 3:23Speaker 1: the latest. What does this result mean for who will
- 3:26Speaker 1: govern Israel?
- 3:29Speaker 6: Well, the result means right now that, as President Trump said,
- 3:32Speaker 6: Netanyahu does have a bit of an edge right now
- 3:34Speaker 6: as they go into negotiations of forming a new government.
- 3:40Speaker 7: They do have a five-seat edge over the opposition.
- 3:42Speaker 6: What's going to happen now, Tony, is that the official
- 3:46Speaker 6: results will come out next Wednesday, November 4th. Then the president,
- 3:50Speaker 6: Isaac Herzog, is going to meet with all of the
- 3:52Speaker 6: parties and decide which party and which leader is going
- 3:55Speaker 6: to be able to try to form a coalition, presumably
- 3:59Speaker 6: with 53 seats.
- 4:00Speaker 7: That will be Benjamin Netanyahu.
- 4:02Speaker 6: And then he may try to reach out to some
- 4:05Speaker 6: of the parties on the opposition to see if he
- 4:08Speaker 6: can get to that 61 numbers.
- 4:10Speaker 7: To be able to actually form a coalition.
- 4:12Speaker 6: But it could be hard because many of those members
- 4:15Speaker 6: in the opposition have said they will not serve in
- 4:17Speaker 6: a government with Benjamin Netanyahu.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Now, what about the Arab Party's record 19 seats? I
- 4:25Speaker 1: would think that a coalition with them would almost be toxic.
- 4:30Speaker 6: Very much so, Tony, especially for a couple of reasons.
- 4:34Speaker 6: First of all, there have been allegations that They haven't
- 4:36Speaker 6: been proven just yet that there was foreign money, and
- 4:40Speaker 6: I think from perhaps Qatar. that might have influenced some
- 4:44Speaker 6: of the voters on the Arab section. But regardless of that,
- 4:48Speaker 6: the 19 members, some would call them toxic because of
- 4:52Speaker 6: a few things. First of all, the night of the election,
- 4:56Speaker 6: some of them were singing baladi baladi in Arabic called
- 4:59Speaker 6: my country, my country. Some of them are calling Hamas
- 5:03Speaker 6: a charitable organization. And when you consider that in the Knesset,
- 5:08Speaker 6: that six members on the Israeli side have members that
- 5:13Speaker 6: were murdered on October 7th, and then you have members
- 5:17Speaker 6: perhaps in the Arab parties that calling Hamas a charitable
- 5:20Speaker 6: organization or even celebrating October 7th, it would be toxic
- 5:25Speaker 6: to really put them into a coalition government. So very
- 5:29Speaker 6: problematic going forward to see what happens with the 19
- 5:34Speaker 6: Arab seats.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Now, Christian, you were saying they were singing My Country,
- 5:37Speaker 1: My Country. They were not celebrating the Jewish state of Israel.
- 5:42Speaker 6: No, they're celebrating the state of Palestine.
- 5:46Speaker 1: What do you attribute the record turnout? I mean, this
- 5:50Speaker 1: is high turnout. What do you attribute that to?
- 5:54Speaker 6: Well, the high turnout is it became such a pivotal election,
- 5:58Speaker 6: the first one in four years, even before October 7th.
- 6:02Speaker 6: This is the first government that went through its four-year term,
- 6:08Speaker 6: I believe, since 1988. So, There's been a lot of
- 6:12Speaker 6: pent-up emotion behind this, certainly on the Arab side, and
- 6:16Speaker 6: that's one explanation for the record turnout and the record
- 6:19Speaker 6: number of seats they have. And certainly on the opposition,
- 6:22Speaker 6: they had really made a tremendous effort to try to
- 6:26Speaker 6: finally topple Benjamin Netanyahu. Part of the reason behind this
- 6:31Speaker 6: opposition is not necessarily disagreement with all of the policies,
- 6:35Speaker 6: but certainly this anti-Netanyahu coalition that has been going on
- 6:40Speaker 6: for many years. Some of these parties, you know, may
- 6:43Speaker 6: agree with some of the policies, but they just don't
- 6:46Speaker 6: want to serve with Benjamin Netanyahu, which complicates things going
- 6:50Speaker 6: forward to have a coalition, you know, established in the
- 6:54Speaker 6: next few weeks.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Now, back in 2019 and 2020, there were multiple elections
- 6:59Speaker 1: following one another because they could not put together a
- 7:02Speaker 1: coalition government. Do you foresee that being a real possibility here?
- 7:09Speaker 6: It's a very real possibility. One possibility would be a
- 7:12Speaker 6: unity government. If they can, some of these opposition members
- 7:16Speaker 6: can join a coalition with Benjamin Netanyahu. But, you know,
- 7:21Speaker 6: a stalemate looks very possible. And what happens if there
- 7:25Speaker 6: is no coalition government formed, Benjamin Netanyahu and the current
- 7:30Speaker 6: government will continue in office.
- 7:32Speaker 7: There's no vacuum of leadership.
- 7:34Speaker 6: The Knesset may not be in session, but the government
- 7:37Speaker 6: will continue in And in that regard, they can still,
- 7:41Speaker 6: you know, wage war. And that's a very likely possibility,
- 7:45Speaker 6: perhaps in the next few weeks. It's interesting, Tony, you know,
- 7:49Speaker 6: almost people here in the Middle East have been putting
- 7:52Speaker 6: the war on their calendar. They've been talking about an
- 7:54Speaker 6: intense short campaign. People in the Gulf are expecting it.
- 7:58Speaker 6: People here in Israel expecting it. And Iran seems to
- 8:01Speaker 6: be expecting it as well. So if the government, if
- 8:05Speaker 6: the coalition is not formed, then a military action could
- 8:09Speaker 6: go forth after the midterms.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Does that strengthen, as the caretaker remaining in place, the
- 8:18Speaker 1: Knesset not meeting, does that strengthen the hand of Benjamin Netanyahu?
- 8:22Speaker 6: It really does right now, and especially since he did
- 8:25Speaker 6: better than expected. Some people in the opposition were thinking
- 8:29Speaker 6: they could get to 61 seats.
- 8:31Speaker 7: They only get to 48 seats.
- 8:32Speaker 6: And now with five seat advantage, he really does sort
- 8:37Speaker 6: of have the upper hand when he goes to the
- 8:39Speaker 6: negotiating table with these coalition partners or the opposition partners,
- 8:44Speaker 6: that is. So, yeah, it does strengthen his hand. And
- 8:46Speaker 6: a lot of people thought he was going to come
- 8:48Speaker 6: out on the short end. But it looks like he,
- 8:51Speaker 6: you know, he did quite well, as he often does.
- 8:54Speaker 6: I mean, he's been the longest serving prime minister in
- 8:57Speaker 6: Israel's history.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Speaking of an intensified short-term effort against Iran, the Times
- 9:05Speaker 1: of Israel reporting at the end of the week that
- 9:07Speaker 1: 10 American military transport aircraft landed in Israel coming from
- 9:13Speaker 1: Biggs Army Airfield in El Paso, which is a major U.S.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Army air defense installation. They're reinforcing the Patriot missiles and
- 9:23Speaker 1: missile defense there in Israel. Could that be signaling that
- 9:27Speaker 1: something is on the horizon?
- 9:29Speaker 7: Very much so. All of that and more.
- 9:32Speaker 6: The signaling air refuelers are coming here into Ben-Gurion Airport
- 9:37Speaker 6: and other airports here in Israel.
- 9:39Speaker 7: The third carrier group is on its way, if not
- 9:42Speaker 7: already here.
- 9:43Speaker 6: So all of these signals, military and political, is really
- 9:48Speaker 6: just an indication that war seems to be imminent. And
- 9:51Speaker 6: there's a sense that maybe this is the time to
- 9:53Speaker 6: finish the job. Recently, I was talking to some Iranians, Tony,
- 9:58Speaker 6: and they want. Israel and the U.S. to finish the job.
- 10:02Speaker 6: They were disappointed at the ceasefire, and they're hoping and
- 10:06Speaker 6: praying that this could be the time when the Iranian
- 10:08Speaker 6: regime will finally fall and they could have the freedom
- 10:12Speaker 6: that they've been praying and hoping for for many years.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Very quickly, 20 seconds left or so. Qatar, again, in
- 10:19Speaker 1: negotiations going in between the United States and Iran. Any
- 10:22Speaker 1: hope there that there might be a diplomatic resolution?
- 10:26Speaker 7: It doesn't seem to be. I know Vice President J.D.
- 10:29Speaker 6: Vance has sent a letter to the Iranian leaders, but
- 10:32Speaker 6: it doesn't seem, given all the other indications of a
- 10:35Speaker 6: possible war, that any negotiations are really going to be
- 10:38Speaker 6: fruitful and in light of all the other preparations going.
- 10:42Speaker 7: On here in the Middle East.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Well, and the history of those dealings would suggest the same.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Chris Mitchell, always great to see you. Thanks so much
- 10:50Speaker 1: for joining us. Coming up next, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky
- 10:54Speaker 1: joins us. Stay with us.
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- 11:35Speaker 1: Welcome back to This Week on Capitol Hill. I'm your host,
- 11:37Speaker 1: Tony Perkins. Eight deliveries and civilian evacuations began Friday in Russia.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Russian-occupied Olesky under a localized ceasefire brokered with the help
- 11:48Speaker 1: of First Lady Melania Trump. Now fighting continues elsewhere. Can
- 11:52Speaker 1: this humanitarian cooperation lead to progress toward a greater peace?
- 11:57Speaker 1: Joining us now is the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
- 12:01Speaker 6: Mr.
- 12:01Speaker 1: President, thank you for joining us on this week on
- 12:03Speaker 1: Capitol Hill.
- 12:05Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Tony. Happy to see you. Thank
- 12:08Speaker 3: you for this opportunity to speak.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Mr. President, aid deliveries and evacuations have begun in Oleski.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Where are the civilians being evacuated? And could this be
- 12:21Speaker 1: an opening for a broader ceasefire?
- 12:23Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 12:24Speaker 3: So, first of all, we are very thankful to the
- 12:26Speaker 3: First Lady, Melania Trump, for this mediation and for this help.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Of course, our team, our group came with American partners,
- 12:37Speaker 3: came to the temporarily occupied Olenski, and they came to
- 12:41Speaker 3: bring medical equipment and humanitarian support. And now we understand
- 12:48Speaker 3: that we have opportunity to Take people who can go
- 12:53Speaker 3: to our territory, which is under our control. I mean,
- 12:58Speaker 3: to Ukraine, which is under our control. And they will
- 13:01Speaker 3: come to us. They are now on the way back.
- 13:06Speaker 4: With our group.
- 13:08Speaker 3: And, of course, we will help them. We will support them.
- 13:11Speaker 3: And everything what they will need, they will get. Do
- 13:14Speaker 3: you think this could be an opening to a broader ceasefire?
- 13:18Speaker 4: You know, this is a very difficult question.
- 13:20Speaker 3: We always supported the idea and proposition of the American side,
- 13:26Speaker 3: the American president, President Trump, and the.
- 13:28Speaker 4: Ceasefire, unconditional ceasefire.
- 13:31Speaker 3: It was at the very beginning of 2025, and then
- 13:33Speaker 3: it was several times supported by the Ukrainian side. But
- 13:38Speaker 3: Russia never, never accepted any kind of ceasefires, never. and
- 13:44Speaker 3: energy ceasefire or ceasefire on the sea in different territories.
- 13:48Speaker 4: And this is the first time when.
- 13:52Speaker 3: First Lady and she addressed to aggressors and she addressed
- 13:58Speaker 3: to them and proposed to have a ceasefire from both
- 14:03Speaker 3: sides on the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine. And, of course, because,
- 14:08Speaker 3: you know, all the roads have been mined by Russia
- 14:11Speaker 3: and people are there without food, without water. And, of course,
- 14:15Speaker 3: we supported this. And this is the first time. Hope
- 14:18Speaker 3: it can continue. Of course, if it will continue, if
- 14:22Speaker 3: such signals will come from America, again, it will be
- 14:27Speaker 3: absolutely great and we will support.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Now, there are reports that in November there will be
- 14:32Speaker 1: discussions again between Ukraine, Russia and the United States. What
- 14:36Speaker 1: has changed that may lead to some positive outcome there?
- 14:45Speaker 3: First of all, this is good that we will have
- 14:47Speaker 3: opportunity to bring Russians to negotiations. And we are thankful
- 14:54Speaker 3: to American side for mediation during our meeting in Oslo.
- 14:58Speaker 3: That was the proposition from America to have meeting in November.
- 15:02Speaker 4: It can be from the 6th to 10th.
- 15:05Speaker 3: And it can be the 10th of November, so we
- 15:09Speaker 3: will see. It has to be in Abu Dhabi, but
- 15:12Speaker 3: you know there are a lot of different sensitive moments
- 15:16Speaker 3: and a lot of challenges in the Middle East.
- 15:18Speaker 4: I don't know if it will.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Be exactly these days and exactly in Abu Dhabi, but
- 15:24Speaker 3: we will support.
- 15:24Speaker 4: We always support the idea to come to Emirates.
- 15:28Speaker 3: And of course, we supported the proposition from American side
- 15:31Speaker 3: to have a trilateral meeting on the tactical level. Three
- 15:35Speaker 3: groups from Ukraine, Russia and the United States will join
- 15:39Speaker 3: in November in Abu Dhabi. Mr.
- 15:42Speaker 1: President, I want to go back to these occupied territories.
- 15:45Speaker 1: When I was in Ukraine in August, I met with
- 15:49Speaker 1: a number of religious leaders and others who Russian forces
- 15:52Speaker 1: have been accused of detaining and torturing Christian pastors and
- 15:56Speaker 1: seizing churches in these occupied territories of Ukraine. What is
- 16:01Speaker 1: happening to Christians there and what progress is being made
- 16:05Speaker 1: toward returning Ukrainian children that have been abducted and taken
- 16:09Speaker 1: to Russia?
- 16:11Speaker 4: Thank you so much, first of all, Tony. Thank you
- 16:13Speaker 4: for your visit.
- 16:15Speaker 3: And it's very important not just to speak about it,
- 16:18Speaker 3: to visit and to see what's going on.
- 16:21Speaker 4: And thank you for your visit. You're always welcome.
- 16:24Speaker 3: And also all your colleagues and journalists, and journalists from
- 16:27Speaker 3: the United States, especially from the United States, because journalists
- 16:31Speaker 3: from the United States are very famous, very loud.
- 16:34Speaker 4: This is important for us to give.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Real, true information to the world what's going on in
- 16:40Speaker 3: Ukraine and on temporary occupied territories everywhere. And that's why
- 16:45Speaker 3: I thank you and your colleagues. Everybody is very welcome.
- 16:48Speaker 3: It really helps us. So what's going on with churches
- 16:53Speaker 3: and other religious institutions and with the people, with church leaders,
- 16:57Speaker 3: with pastors, et cetera. So around 120 representatives of different
- 17:05Speaker 3: religious institutions, 120 being killed by Russians. It was not
- 17:09Speaker 3: an accident. It was just the attack. on these people,
- 17:14Speaker 3: attack on the churches and other institutions.
- 17:18Speaker 8: Mr.
- 17:18Speaker 1: President, I want to ask you, you talk about American
- 17:21Speaker 1: journalist Tucker Carlson and others has accused your government of
- 17:24Speaker 1: persecuting Christians. I want to give you an opportunity to
- 17:28Speaker 1: address that in our final moment.
- 17:31Speaker 3: First of all, just to repeat, Tony, you've been in
- 17:36Speaker 3: our country and we are thankful again you and your
- 17:41Speaker 3: colleagues and that's why we can very clearly and openly
- 17:45Speaker 3: speak and understand each other so because you saw by
- 17:50Speaker 3: your eyes what's going on Tucker Carlson and other such
- 17:54Speaker 3: guys they I think they've never been I think this
- 17:59Speaker 3: man never been in Ukraine how he can discuss what's
- 18:02Speaker 3: going on in Ukraine And to speak about what's going
- 18:07Speaker 3: on with.
- 18:08Speaker 4: Religious people in Ukraine, we are very free.
- 18:12Speaker 3: Yes, you know that we have the biggest council in
- 18:14Speaker 3: Europe of religious institutions.
- 18:17Speaker 4: We all work together.
- 18:19Speaker 3: We have each month meetings in the presidential office, or
- 18:24Speaker 3: I can come to meetings. different of churches or different institutions,
- 18:29Speaker 3: we always together discuss all the questions, all the problems,
- 18:34Speaker 3: how to help, humanitarian aid, also if something has been destroyed,
- 18:39Speaker 3: or if somebody from religious representatives and leaders of churches
- 18:45Speaker 3: have been tortured by Russians or are in the prison.
- 18:49Speaker 4: I came to them.
- 18:51Speaker 3: And I come to them, and we have this council,
- 18:53Speaker 3: as I said, the biggest in Europe, and we manage
- 18:55Speaker 3: all the problems.
- 18:56Speaker 4: By the way, everybody together, yes, Christians.
- 19:00Speaker 3: Jewish people, yes, we have a lot of Catholic churches,
- 19:07Speaker 3: and also Muslims, all of us, we sit together in
- 19:11Speaker 3: one room together.
- 19:12Speaker 4: And manage all these problems and discuss.
- 19:16Speaker 3: So that's why I think this man, Tucker, he doesn't
- 19:19Speaker 3: know what's going on in Ukraine, but he can come
- 19:22Speaker 3: and see what's going on, what was destroyed by Russia,
- 19:27Speaker 3: and what is the attitude to different religions, different nationalities.
- 19:32Speaker 3: We have a lot of also nationalities in Ukraine, and
- 19:35Speaker 3: we live and stand together, and only together we can
- 19:38Speaker 3: defend our country.
- 19:40Speaker 1: And, Mr. President, while I was there, I actually met
- 19:43Speaker 1: with that council and with you, and we prayed for
- 19:46Speaker 1: you on the Independence Day. So it is what I
- 19:48Speaker 1: have seen, that there is religious fraternity.
- 19:50Speaker 6: There.
- 19:50Speaker 4: And you saw thousands of people. Yeah, thousands of people.
- 19:56Speaker 3: It's not just five, ten people who manage all the
- 19:59Speaker 3: problem and decide. No, it's a will of people. That's
- 20:02Speaker 3: why we come together very often. And it's about thousands
- 20:06Speaker 3: of people. We stay together and we really respect each other. Mr.
- 20:10Speaker 1: President, I want to thank you for your time. Thank
- 20:12Speaker 1: you for joining us and know that Ukraine and the
- 20:14Speaker 1: people of Ukraine are in our prayers.
- 20:17Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your prayers. Thank you for
- 20:19Speaker 3: your support. God bless America. Thank you so much.
- 20:22Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, Congressman Michael McCaul joins us.
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- 21:05Speaker 1: Welcome back to This Week on Capitol Hill. This Tuesday
- 21:09Speaker 1: is Election Day, and the outcome will shape the direction
- 21:11Speaker 1: of the country over the next two years. But the
- 21:14Speaker 1: stakes extend beyond domestic priorities like taxes, spending, and border security.
- 21:19Speaker 1: The outcome will also shape America's foreign policy priorities and.
- 21:23Speaker 4: Its role in the world.
- 21:25Speaker 1: What could the next two years look like? Joining us
- 21:27Speaker 1: now to discuss this and more is Congressman Michael McCaul,
- 21:31Speaker 1: chairman emeritus of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. He represents
- 21:34Speaker 1: the 10th Congressional District of Texas. Chairman McCaul, welcome back
- 21:37Speaker 1: to This Week on Capitol Hill. Thanks for joining us.
- 21:40Speaker 7: Thanks, Tony.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Before we get to the election, I just spoke with
- 21:45Speaker 1: President Zelensky from Ukraine. He shared with us the latest
- 21:50Speaker 1: in what is happening in the kind of the brokered
- 21:53Speaker 1: ceasefire in the occupied area of Oleski. But I want
- 21:58Speaker 1: to ask you this question because you have supported pressure.
- 22:01Speaker 1: You carried the bill in the House on the sanctions
- 22:03Speaker 1: bill on Russian energy. What should Congress be doing now
- 22:08Speaker 1: to strengthen the prospects for peace, for a peace agreement
- 22:11Speaker 1: that will actually hold between Russia and Ukraine?
- 22:15Speaker 2: Well, we gave the president all the authorities and tools
- 22:18Speaker 2: he needs to put pressure not only on Mr. Putin,
- 22:22Speaker 2: but also on the largest importer of Russian energy. That's China.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Chairman Xi, President Xi has a lot of leverage over Putin.
- 22:31Speaker 2: And so the idea that Lindsey Graham and I had
- 22:33Speaker 2: was to not only sanctions on Putin himself, sanctions on
- 22:38Speaker 2: the oligarchs, but tariffs on the top five importers of
- 22:42Speaker 2: Russian energy. to leverage these negotiated talks. I mean, this
- 22:47Speaker 2: will not end with a march to Moscow. It's going
- 22:50Speaker 2: to end in a negotiated settlement. We had a phone
- 22:54Speaker 2: call with Secretary Rubio. I asked, you know, why are
- 22:59Speaker 2: we not enforcing the sanctions, but rather waiving them? And
- 23:04Speaker 2: I think the answer was legitimate, that there's a trilateral
- 23:10Speaker 2: agreement or conference or meeting that they're trying to move
- 23:15Speaker 2: forward with after the election. I think we do have
- 23:18Speaker 2: to give that a chance, a talk between Russia, the
- 23:21Speaker 2: United States, and Ukraine to work this out. But I'm
- 23:27Speaker 2: not entirely optimistic because every time we give Putin a
- 23:31Speaker 2: chance for peace, he defies that. And he instead will
- 23:36Speaker 2: bomb innocent civilians. We saw him bomb Churches in October
- 23:42Speaker 2: in Ukraine, we saw them bomb buses and trains and
- 23:45Speaker 2: even a park with little children in strollers, all in
- 23:49Speaker 2: violation of international law. To me, this is a moral issue.
- 23:55Speaker 2: It's a moral question of our time. And there's no
- 23:59Speaker 2: question in my mind who is on the right side
- 24:02Speaker 2: of history here.
- 24:04Speaker 1: This is very similar to what we're facing with the
- 24:07Speaker 1: Iranian regime, every time we back off, they simply, they
- 24:10Speaker 1: don't change their behavior. They double down and they continue
- 24:15Speaker 1: their attacks. Along those same lines, Mr. Chairman, Reuters reports
- 24:19Speaker 1: that the Pentagon officials have urged several NATO allies to
- 24:24Speaker 1: moderate their public rhetoric about the threat from Russia. Now,
- 24:29Speaker 1: the Pentagon declined to discuss the private conversations, but is
- 24:32Speaker 1: that approach helpful to these peace negotiations or could it
- 24:36Speaker 1: weaken deterrence?
- 24:38Speaker 2: You know, I'm a Reagan Republican. I'm a peace through strength.
- 24:42Speaker 2: That's all Putin understands is strength. And if he sees
- 24:46Speaker 2: us if he sees weakness, which he saw after Afghanistan fell,
- 24:51Speaker 2: precisely why he invaded Ukraine. I think this soft approach
- 24:55Speaker 2: that I know is coming from Mr. Colby, who's the
- 24:59Speaker 2: policy advisor to the Secretary of War, I don't see
- 25:04Speaker 2: weakening NATO as an effective strategy to get Putin to
- 25:09Speaker 2: the negotiating table. In fact, it could have just the
- 25:12Speaker 2: opposite effect. And all the while, as you pointed out,
- 25:17Speaker 2: With Russia supporting Iran right now, we're at war with Iran,
- 25:23Speaker 2: and Russia is providing targeting information to kill American troops
- 25:29Speaker 2: in the Middle East. To me, it makes no sense
- 25:33Speaker 2: at all. I think he only understands strength. That's why
- 25:38Speaker 2: we passed the Lindsey Graham bill, to give the president
- 25:41Speaker 2: tools to leverage a peaceful environment. resolution. That's what I
- 25:45Speaker 2: told the president when I was in the Oval Office,
- 25:48Speaker 2: when he signed that bill into law. I hope, look,
- 25:52Speaker 2: we'll give this trilateral meeting a chance. If it fails,
- 25:56Speaker 2: I do think then is the time to enforce these sanctions.
- 26:02Speaker 3: Mr.
- 26:03Speaker 1: Chairman, 45 seconds left. If Democrats win control of the
- 26:07Speaker 1: Congress with their socialist, democratic socialist agenda, how does that
- 26:11Speaker 1: change our foreign policy approach from Congress?
- 26:14Speaker 2: No, it greatly weakened our foreign policy. They will. You know,
- 26:18Speaker 2: we have done a lot to beef up the military.
- 26:20Speaker 2: I know Mike Johnson's going to talk to you about this.
- 26:23Speaker 2: And what he what they will do is weaken our military,
- 26:27Speaker 2: not strengthen it. That's a bad foreign policy. It's a
- 26:30Speaker 2: bad result. And it'll end up in more wars, not less.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Chairman McCaul, always great to see you, my friend. Thanks
- 26:37Speaker 1: so much for taking time to join us.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Thank you, Tony. Thanks for having me.
- 26:41Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, House Speaker Mike Johnson joins
- 26:44Speaker 1: us from the campaign trail to further highlight what is
- 26:47Speaker 1: at stake this Tuesday when Americans head to the polls.
- 26:52Speaker 1: It's not just domestic issues. It's the foreign policy issues
- 26:55Speaker 1: as well. Stay with us.
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- 27:36Speaker 1: Welcome back to This Week on Capitol Hill. I'm Tony Perkins. Well,
- 27:39Speaker 1: this coming Tuesday, Election Day, is more than a contest
- 27:43Speaker 1: over which party controls Congress. Voters will determine whether President
- 27:47Speaker 1: Trump has a Congress that advances his agenda or one
- 27:50Speaker 1: that works to stop it. The outcome will shape our laws,
- 27:53Speaker 1: our freedoms, and the direction of the country long after
- 27:56Speaker 1: the ballots are counted. With so much at stake, House
- 27:59Speaker 1: Speaker Mike Johnson has been traveling nonstop across the country
- 28:02Speaker 1: campaigning to preserve the Republican majority. He joins us now
- 28:06Speaker 1: from New Mexico.
- 28:08Speaker 3: Mr.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Speaker, welcome back to This Week on Capitol Hill. Thanks
- 28:10Speaker 1: for taking time off the campaign trail to join us
- 28:13Speaker 1: for a few minutes.
- 28:14Speaker 11: Hey, Tony.
- 28:15Speaker 5: Glad to do it. I've been moving nonstop, campaigning nonstop
- 28:18Speaker 5: all this month. We've been in, I've done campaign events
- 28:21Speaker 5: in more than 40 districts across 23 states now, I think.
- 28:24Speaker 11: I'm losing count.
- 28:25Speaker 5: But I tell you what, look, I remain just as
- 28:28Speaker 5: encouraged and enthusiastic as I was the last time we spoke.
- 28:32Speaker 5: Huge crowds, Tony. It feels like 2024 to me out there.
- 28:35Speaker 5: I keep saying that. I believe the polls are wildly
- 28:38Speaker 5: inaccurate this time around. And I believe that we can
- 28:40Speaker 5: hold this Republican majority in the House and the Senate.
- 28:43Speaker 11: We just have to get everybody out on Election Day.
- 28:45Speaker 1: You know, Mr. Speaker, Americans are concerned about affording affordability
- 28:50Speaker 1: when it comes to groceries, housing, raising a family, energy prices, etc.
- 28:56Speaker 1: But under the Democratic Socialists that heavily influenced the Democratic Party,
- 29:00Speaker 1: I mean, did they really have proposals that would allow
- 29:03Speaker 1: the economy to grow?
- 29:05Speaker 11: No, of course not.
- 29:06Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, the socialist whole regime, their whole idea,
- 29:09Speaker 5: their whole philosophy is that you grow government. Government is
- 29:11Speaker 5: supposed to supply everything to everyone. Government has no money
- 29:14Speaker 5: of its own, Tony. This is Econ 101, Poli Sci 101.
- 29:19Speaker 5: Government has to take a dollar out of someone's pocket
- 29:21Speaker 5: to give it to someone else. Their whole vision is
- 29:23Speaker 5: for the government to take over everything. Ultimately, that's what
- 29:26Speaker 5: socialist regimes do. Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto. He
- 29:30Speaker 5: used socialism and communism interchangeably because he thought that Socialism
- 29:34Speaker 5: was a necessary step to get to communism, which he
- 29:37Speaker 5: thought was the utopia of the perfect society. The idea
- 29:40Speaker 5: is that the state controls everything, governs everything. takes away
- 29:43Speaker 5: private property ownership. When they tell people they're going to
- 29:46Speaker 5: give them free things, they don't talk about the loss
- 29:48Speaker 5: of freedom that goes with it and ultimately human suffering, famine,
- 29:53Speaker 5: and death. That's the story of communism and socialism every
- 29:55Speaker 5: single time it's been tried. So that's what they're offering,
- 29:58Speaker 5: more of that. If you think that electing Democrats would
- 30:01Speaker 5: bring your.
- 30:07Speaker 6: Mr.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Speaker, for those that are saying Republicans are using this
- 30:11Speaker 1: socialistic agenda from the Democratic Socialists as a straw man,
- 30:15Speaker 1: an undercover video published this week by Town Hall shows
- 30:19Speaker 1: California Governor Gavin Newsom saying the Democratic Socialists of America's
- 30:23Speaker 1: energy and demand for bold change will become dominant and mainstream.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Listen to this clip.
- 30:31Speaker 4: The DSA, the energy.
- 30:34Speaker 2: And the desire and demand for burial change, non-inclemental change,
- 30:38Speaker 2: is very much going to be dominant. But, I mean,
- 30:41Speaker 2: that's going to be mainstream.
- 30:43Speaker 8: Absolutely.
- 30:44Speaker 4: No pressure.
- 30:45Speaker 2: You can't play in the margins anymore.
- 30:48Speaker 1: For once, is he speaking truth?
- 30:50Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's probably a legitimate video because that's
- 30:53Speaker 5: what they actually believe. Some of the candidates for the
- 30:55Speaker 5: House are actually saying those things to crowds. You know,
- 30:59Speaker 5: this isn't some conspiracy theory. This is what they are for.
- 31:02Speaker 5: They published a platform we've talked about many times. They
- 31:04Speaker 5: want to abolish the border, abolish prisons, defund police, defund
- 31:07Speaker 5: the Department of War, you know, remove the president, pack
- 31:09Speaker 5: the Supreme Court, trans surgeries for everyone, you know, for
- 31:12Speaker 5: minors without parental consent, men back in women's sports. Everything
- 31:16Speaker 5: that defies common sense and what is good and moral
- 31:19Speaker 5: and right and true, they are opposed to, and they're
- 31:22Speaker 5: going to advance this radical agenda.
- 31:24Speaker 11: The problem is, Gavin Newsom's right.
- 31:26Speaker 5: The problem is the energy, the excitement, the grassroots is
- 31:28Speaker 5: on the side of that insurgent radical left, and they
- 31:31Speaker 5: have taken over. They are already taking over the Democratic Party.
- 31:35Speaker 5: In the two years ahead of us, we will not
- 31:37Speaker 5: be arguing over marginal tax rates or taxes. shades of
- 31:40Speaker 5: regulation or the old traditional foreign policy arguments. We're going
- 31:43Speaker 5: to be arguing over whether or not we keep the republic,
- 31:45Speaker 5: the founding principles of America, or we destroy them and
- 31:48Speaker 5: tear them down. That's what the Democrat Socialists of America,
- 31:51Speaker 5: that's what the Democrat Party now represents, and it is
- 31:54Speaker 5: exactly what they will do.
- 31:55Speaker 11: That is the agenda that we are trying to oppose.
- 31:58Speaker 8: Now, Mr.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Speaker, I know that we've had multiple conversations about polls,
- 32:02Speaker 1: and we know that Republicans are not necessarily participating in
- 32:06Speaker 1: the polls, but There are some trends that you can
- 32:08Speaker 1: see in polling, and I like to watch the polling
- 32:11Speaker 1: for different purposes, not to make decisions, but to kind
- 32:15Speaker 1: of gauge where things are. But there's a new Economist
- 32:18Speaker 1: YouGov poll that finds half of registered voters would consider
- 32:23Speaker 1: voting for a democratic socialist, while only 20 percent prefer
- 32:28Speaker 1: socialism to capitalism. That seems inconsistent. What do you think
- 32:33Speaker 1: Republicans need to do more to explain the policies behind
- 32:37Speaker 1: that label of socialist?
- 32:39Speaker 5: Well, there is an education component to what we're doing
- 32:41Speaker 5: right now. I do it on the campaign trail. We
- 32:43Speaker 5: started a website, as you know, a few months back
- 32:46Speaker 5: when we recognized that so few people, and of course
- 32:49Speaker 5: many younger voters and younger people, they didn't live through
- 32:52Speaker 5: the Cold War.
- 32:52Speaker 11: They don't understand the realities of all this.
- 32:54Speaker 5: We started a website called contrastforamerica.com, and we just summarize
- 32:58Speaker 5: there on a couple of pages the true history of
- 33:01Speaker 5: socialism and communism. Every single time this has been attempted,
- 33:04Speaker 5: it leads to human misery, suffering, poverty, famine, and even death.
- 33:09Speaker 5: And the communists, of course, have been responsible for the
- 33:11Speaker 5: murder of tens of millions of innocent people in the
- 33:13Speaker 5: 20th century alone.
- 33:14Speaker 11: It is anti-American.
- 33:15Speaker 5: It is exactly the inverse of what America's founding principles
- 33:19Speaker 5: are about. Individual freedom, limited government, the rule of law,
- 33:23Speaker 5: peace through strength, fiscal responsibility, free markets.
- 33:25Speaker 11: Human dignity, those are the things that are on the
- 33:27Speaker 11: ballot on Tuesday. I mean, this is it. It comes
- 33:31Speaker 11: down to a midterm.
- 33:32Speaker 5: Election, and we have to vote our values, and we
- 33:34Speaker 5: have to vote for the American way over the communist way.
- 33:38Speaker 1: You know, that's another indicator of how our educational system
- 33:41Speaker 1: has failed our children, not teaching them the history of
- 33:46Speaker 1: the 20th century and what all happened all across the
- 33:49Speaker 1: globe where the communists reigned.
- 33:52Speaker 5: Absolutely right. And look, when it comes down to this election,
- 33:54Speaker 5: it is about affordability. It is about the cost of living.
- 33:56Speaker 5: But everybody remember one thing. What we inherited less than
- 33:59Speaker 5: two years ago was the worst economy, the worst disaster
- 34:02Speaker 5: in every metric of public policy in the Biden-Harris administration.
- 34:05Speaker 5: They brought us to 40-year high inflation, 9.1%. The real
- 34:08Speaker 5: and actual inflation rate was about 21%, as the president's
- 34:12Speaker 5: been pointing out on the campaign trail, because that was
- 34:14Speaker 5: the actual rise in the cost of goods. We don't
- 34:16Speaker 5: flip a switch and fix it overnight, but we have
- 34:18Speaker 5: put in all the fundamental principles to fix it. The
- 34:21Speaker 5: economy will take off like a rocket when we get
- 34:23Speaker 5: the straightover moves straightened out. I think that happens right
- 34:25Speaker 5: after the election. I think we're right on the verge
- 34:27Speaker 5: of this thing going well. If you look at the
- 34:28Speaker 5: economic indicators, we've had trillions of dollars invested in America.
- 34:31Speaker 5: We added more than a million private sector jobs in
- 34:33Speaker 5: the economy the last 19 months. Wages are going up.
- 34:36Speaker 5: taxes are going down, regulations going down. We have set
- 34:39Speaker 5: the conditions in place for every family to do better,
- 34:41Speaker 5: and you've got to keep Republicans in charge. You cannot
- 34:43Speaker 5: turn it over to the big government socialist Democrats.
- 34:45Speaker 1: All right, final 30 seconds, Mr. Speaker. This will be
- 34:48Speaker 1: the last time we talk before the election. For those
- 34:50Speaker 1: that are considering sitting out the election, our viewers, our listeners,
- 34:54Speaker 1: what would you say to them?
- 34:55Speaker 5: Stakes are too high. This is not a normal election,
- 34:58Speaker 5: not a normal midterm. You have to vote your values
- 35:00Speaker 5: or your values could be destroyed. That is not hyperbole.
- 35:04Speaker 5: It is not rhetoric. That's exactly what's on the ballot
- 35:06Speaker 5: right now.
- 35:07Speaker 8: Mr.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Speaker, thanks for joining us. Stay safe on the campaign
- 35:10Speaker 1: trail and we will talk to you next week.
- 35:12Speaker 3: Thanks, Tony. God bless.
- 35:14Speaker 1: And folks, if you need a resource to help you vote,
- 35:16Speaker 1: we have a personalized voter guide. Simply text the word
- 35:20Speaker 1: VOTE to 67742. That's VOTE to 67742. All right, some
- 35:26Speaker 1: final thoughts after this. Welcome back, and thanks for tuning
- 35:38Speaker 1: in to This Week on Capitol Hill. A Pew Research
- 35:41Speaker 1: Center survey released earlier this year found that 66% of
- 35:44Speaker 1: Americans believe churches and other houses of worship should stay
- 35:48Speaker 1: out of political matters rather than address day-to-day social and
- 35:52Speaker 1: political questions. Does that mean a pastor should avoid any
- 35:55Speaker 1: subject politicians happen to debate? Consider abortion, marriage, human sexuality, immigration,
- 36:02Speaker 1: and justice. These are not merely political issues that divide
- 36:06Speaker 1: the parties. They are moral and spiritual issues which Scripture addresses.
- 36:10Speaker 1: If pastors were to cut every biblical passage that becomes
- 36:14Speaker 1: controversial in Washington out of the Bible, our Bibles would
- 36:17Speaker 1: soon resemble Swiss cheese. Perhaps the deeper question is whether
- 36:22Speaker 1: we understand how frequently God's people were called to bring
- 36:26Speaker 1: God's truth to bear on matters of civil government. In
- 36:30Speaker 1: a 2019 Pew survey of biblical knowledge, 79% correctly identified Moses, 78% David, 69% Abraham,
- 36:40Speaker 1: and 28% Esther. But Pew didn't ask what those four
- 36:44Speaker 1: individuals had in common. Besides being Hebrews, each had a
- 36:48Speaker 1: consequential encounter with political power. Moses stood before Pharaoh and
- 36:53Speaker 1: demanded freedom for God's people. David became Israel's model king.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Abraham dealt with kings and rulers. Esther, she risked her
- 37:01Speaker 1: life by approaching the Persian king to save her people
- 37:04Speaker 1: from destruction. And the list hardly ends there. Joseph rose
- 37:08Speaker 1: to authority in Egypt. Nehemiah served the Persian king before
- 37:11Speaker 1: becoming governor of Judah. Prophets such as Nathan, Elijah, and
- 37:16Speaker 1: Jeremiah confronted rulers when their actions violated God's commands. Then
- 37:21Speaker 1: there was Daniel. Daniel served under pagan kings in Babylon
- 37:25Speaker 1: and later under Persian rule. Yet his proximity to power
- 37:29Speaker 1: never silenced his allegiance to God. When King Belshazzar offered
- 37:33Speaker 1: him rewards, Daniel refused them and delivered a message the
- 37:37Speaker 1: king did not want to hear. God had weighed his
- 37:40Speaker 1: kingdom and found it wanting. Daniel understood something the church
- 37:44Speaker 1: must rediscover. God's people cannot remain silent on matters God
- 37:48Speaker 1: has clearly addressed simply because those matters have been declared political.
- 37:54Speaker 1: This pattern continues in the New Testament. John the Baptist
- 37:57Speaker 1: confronted Herod over his marriage. Paul asserted his rights as
- 38:00Speaker 1: a Roman citizen and testified before governors and kings. Their
- 38:04Speaker 1: witness did not stop at the palace gates. Certainly, ancient
- 38:08Speaker 1: Israel and Rome were not modern America, and Scripture does
- 38:12Speaker 1: not offer a party platform or a position on every
- 38:16Speaker 1: legislative measure. But it does establish moral truths that apply
- 38:20Speaker 1: to nations, to their rulers, and citizens alike. Jesus called
- 38:25Speaker 1: his followers the salt of the earth and the light
- 38:27Speaker 1: of the world. Neither image suggests withdrawal. Both describe engagement
- 38:33Speaker 1: that makes a difference. So the issue is not whether
- 38:35Speaker 1: the church should become political. It is whether Christians will
- 38:39Speaker 1: remain biblical when biblical truth has political consequences. Our calling
- 38:46Speaker 1: is neither to become the mouthpiece of a party nor
- 38:48Speaker 1: to retreat into silence. It is to stand on God's word,
- 38:52Speaker 1: defend what is right, confront what is wrong, and speak
- 38:55Speaker 1: with courage. remain silent. And with that, let me remind you,
- 39:02Speaker 1: this Tuesday is Election Day. For a personalized voter guide,
- 39:06Speaker 1: text the word VOTE to 67742. That's VOTE to 67742.
- 39:12Speaker 1: Make plans now to vote on Tuesday. And with that,
- 39:15Speaker 1: that has been this week on Capitol Hill.