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Today we tackle trauma, transformation and truth with
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two incredible women on the front lines of mental health and
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veteran support. Joining me is Doctor Pam Arnell,
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the Executive Director of 22 Zero, an organization using a
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groundbreaking, groundbreaking approach to eliminate PTSD,
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anxiety and depression in veterans and 1st responders.
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And whether is Army veteran and full throttle mental health
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advocate TMA, whose healing journey might just be the most
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powerful story. You're here all year.
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So Doctor Arnell, let's start with you.
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What is 22 Zero and how did this mission begin for you?
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So 22, zero. We know that supposedly on
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average there are 22 veterans that they that die a day by
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suicide. We do know that those numbers
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are a lot higher, but seven years ago the average was 22.
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And there were there was an individual who spoke it into
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existence. He was a veteran and then he had
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asked another veteran to actually help him get 22 zero
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going as well. So I got connected through 22
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zero through my Fire Chief. Well, he, he's retired now, my
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then Fire Chief. So I have the clinical
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background, but within the fire departments, you know, I'm the
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one who's going to be called. And he wanted me to take the
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training. And it was funny because I, I
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kept saying no, like, dude, I don't have time.
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Come on chief, I love you. Please.
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Like I have enough going on. And so I ended up taking the
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training because I knew he wasn't going to shut up
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otherwise. And I knew that there was an
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immediate shift. So I was also a reserve deputy
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for five years. And I actually had two calls
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with the Sheriff's Department, but I had three calls with the
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fire department that were really problematic to the point that I
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went and got put on Andy and just asleep some.
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And so part of the training is you actually have to go through
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the process and say something that's a little caveat funny
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about it that the training was online.
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And so my husband at the time, he veteran, 26 year veteran and
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he or he served 26 years and, and a veteran, but he was in the
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other room and when I came out after the class, he he saw my my
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cup, a little mug. And he said, Oh my God, you've
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been in class. Yeah, you've been drinking?
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Because I was really relaxed and I knew there was a shift.
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And then unless you've experienced going through our
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process, you're not going to get what I'm saying.
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But he literally thought that I had been drinking Jack and Coke
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during class because he said you look like you do when you've had
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three glasses of Jack and Coke. What?
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No, I swear I didn't drink Jack and Coke during class.
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And so after that, you know, it, it became very clear that there
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was a bigger mission that needed to be done.
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I started doing a lot of stuff behind the scenes.
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I'm the one who started the research piece for 22.
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Zero had reached out to different universities, and
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Arizona State University reached back out to me.
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We had a meeting and you know, I was able to coordinate with them
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what we do and within that meeting and they agreed to do a
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study for us. And it's funny because that was
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in 2022. So after, you know, talking with
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them, meeting with them, we allowed a couple of their
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research team assistants to go through the training just so
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they can get the full spectrum of what goes on with the
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process. And the first study was
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published in August last year. And so since then, we've got two
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other studies that Arizona State University has done, and those
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are both in peer review right now.
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Awesome. Awesome.
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So can can you talk about how the TRP and ERP how that how
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that actually works? So the the trauma resiliency
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protocol and the emotions management process is based off
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of the neurological linguistic programming.
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Ultimately, we do not see trauma as a disorder.
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It's an injury. It's an injury that will heal.
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You know, just, and, and I give the example, if you break your
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arm or leg, you go get it treated, you're going to heal.
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Well, trauma's the same way and it's more neurologically based.
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But what happens is, you know, 22 zero is a peer program.
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So our armed forces, our first responders that are trained
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specifically in our processes are the peers that work with our
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mission clients. And then what happens is, you
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know, we're going to get you in a, again, you're not talking
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about it, but you're going to, it's more of a, a guided safe
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imagery, imagery before, imagery after, without you talking about
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the content. I can make you trigger without
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you telling me that content, but that protects you and that
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protects my coaches. And I'm very protective of them
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so that they're not getting something called vicarious
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trauma. And vicarious trauma means it
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didn't happen to them directly, but indirectly by hearing
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content, which is why there's such a high burnout rate with
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the mental health professions because they're getting
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traumatized from hearing all that content.
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And you don't have to talk about the content.
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We won't let you. So really getting in that
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imagery and in a safe place, you know, looking at it almost kind
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of like a third person in a safe place before and after the
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events. That's a good way of explaining
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because I went through the program and I had no idea what
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to expect. T is the whole reason I went
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through it. And going through the process,
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I'm like, we haven't said a single word about the stuff I've
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been through. We're here, we're going through
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kind of like get guided meditations almost in a way.
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I don't want to call it a meditation, but that's kind of
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the kind of the same process for people to kind of catch on to
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the first hand. I can tell you for sure it is
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amazing. And like with Tia, you know you
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spent nearly two decades misdiagnosed.
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And what was life like before 22?
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Zero. Hell, that's exactly how I can
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describe it. I was functioning through hell
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in my mind. I had nothing but negative
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thoughts and darkness just swirling around in my head while
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I was awake and while I was sleeping.
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I had trauma from the time I was a child all the way up until
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pretty much the 1st 40 years of my life was just, it felt like
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just trauma after trauma after trauma.
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And so I spent the 1st 40 years of my life having nightmares
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every night. I barely slept.
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I think it on a good night, I would get 2 to 4 hours of sleep.
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I was extremely hyper vigilant. I was always watching my back.
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I was very jumpy. I was easily triggered to the
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point where I would like if my kids did something, you know,
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like knock something over or they did something they
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shouldn't, I would literally just like lose my, you know,
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just lose my temper and start screaming.
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I mean, there was times I was throwing stuff.
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I felt like I had, I had a monster living in me that I
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couldn't control. And it was literally instant.
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Like she was saying like instantly after the session, I
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felt a shift. And I guess because I had spent
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so much time in fight or flight mode, I, I went to sleep and
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kind of went into almost like a hibernation for, for three days.
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I lost, I think I lost 15 lbs. I barely drank anything.
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I just, I, if I woke up, I would literally look around and just
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go right back to sleep. And when I came out of it, I
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want to say it took me couple months to, for my body to self
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regulate because I was running on fight or flight mode for so
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long that my body didn't even know how to function.
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And I know Pam, I called Pam and I told her, I said, you broke
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me. I said, what did you do?
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Like I don't have any energy. I don't have any motivation.
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Like you were supposed to make me better, not worse, you know?
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And she was like, oh, honey, it's OK.
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You know, your, your, your, your body and your mind is going to
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adjust. Your mind takes time to now like
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you get to heal, you know, 'cause like you can go through
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therapy and do all the things, but without, without flipping, I
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tell people, flipping the switch of the fight or flight mode,
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like without turning that off, your brain isn't actually
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healing. It's just pushing through.
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And so for a few months, I went through a healing process and it
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was, it was a huge, it was a huge, it was a huge relief to no
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longer be hyper vigilant and to be able to start coming into a
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life of not being, you know, living in PTSD.
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And, you know, I, I stopped having nightmares immediately.
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I think I've had five nightmares in the last 2 1/2 years.
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So it has completely changed my life in every single aspect from
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my sleep to my, my, my self-confidence, to my
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motivation to help others, you know, in every single way.
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And now everybody you talk to, you bribe them like me to speak
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with Pam. I am.
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I'm so confident in this process that I would be willing to bet
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any amount of money to have somebody go do it.
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I mean, I literally beg people on the regular to just please
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try it because I know that it will change their life and it
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it'll make it better. And I know that they're going to
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be less likely to take their own life.
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They're going to be less likely to be living in depression.
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And I've, that's what I want, especially for all of my veteran
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brothers and sisters. Like nobody deserves to live
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like that. You know, you serve your
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country. You should be living a good
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life. You shouldn't be suffering.
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Oh, I absolutely agree. And I want to say this next part
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for the for after the break, but how did you how did you guys
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meet? Did you know each other prior or
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did you meet meet at an event or?
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No. So my my husband's really good
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friend, they actually did the session with their entire
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company because their company, they have a motorcycle parts
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company. It's a very fast-paced, very
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stressful environment. And they did it with their
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entire company and noticed a big difference.
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And, and I'm very, I've always been very open about my battles
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with mental health. And so they told my husband,
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hey, this, this organization does this session for veterans
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for free. You should have Tia reach out to
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them. And it just so happened that I
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had tried to reach out to the VA because I was extremely
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suicidal. I was at at the end of my rope
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and the VA, the VA really didn't do anything for me.
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And so it was absolutely meant to be perfect timing because I,
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I mean, I was literally saying my goodbyes to my husband
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because I didn't think that I was going to make it much
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longer. Right.
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And that's kind of part of the problems you have with the VA
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was, was the misdiagnosis and then all that stuff you told me
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about last time and then all the struggle through that and then
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meeting Pam and going through the process and how it's really,
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really changed your life. And since we've met, I've stayed
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in touch with you because I just think it's an amazing story.
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And when we get back from the break, I want to talk with Pam a
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little bit. How about the science and the
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the method of 22 Zero and how it differs from from other things
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out there. But yeah, we'll, we'll come back
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from the break here in a second. We'll we'll chat about that.
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Thank you. Love.
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All right. Welcome back to Czech Event
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Nation. Doctor Arnell, can you kind of
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walk us through the science and how does 22 zeros method
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actually work and why is it different from everything else
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out there? So as I mentioned earlier, the
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process that we use the trauma resiliency protocol and the
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emotions management process, which is for the negative
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emotions related to those traumas such as fear, anger,
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guilt, terror, helplessness. It's it's based off of the
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neurological linguistic process. OK.
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So it's based off of MLP. And then what happens is when
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someone, when someone is in that fight or flight stuck in that
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mode of they're either, you know, fighting, flighting or
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even freezing, that's stuck in the, in the villa.
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Once you go through the process, it's, it's basically getting the
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neural pathways to change is getting the brain to rewire so
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that you get that REM sleep. And then that event or events
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gets moved over to the hypothalamus where it's no
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longer in having you in that fight or flight mode.
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So it makes it makes the content basically neutral.
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What we do is we do pre assessments and post
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assessments. And so the pre assessment would
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be a trauma screen, depression screen and an anxiety screen.
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And even during that piece of it, you're still not allowed to
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talk about the content. We don't need to know about that
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after you've had however many sessions, you know, I tell
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everybody the average is 2 to 4. Some may need 2, some may need
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3, some may need 4, some that just need one.
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But after you get done going through the process, then we do
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that same screening and you're able to see where your scores
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were before and then where your scores were after going through
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the process. So again, more along that
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neurological piece and looking at the trauma being more from,
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you know, neurological compared to that disorder face, right?
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OK, well, so, so who qualifies? And for those that do qualify,
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how can they reach out to get to get involved in the process and
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go through the program? So our mission clients are going
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to be the armed forces, any branch deployed or not.
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We do recognize National Guard reserves.
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A lot of nonprofits do not first responders that are going to be
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law enforcement, firefighters, EMT, paramedics.
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Now when dispatchers and corrections and spouses and
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minor children limit in the home and Gold Star families are all
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covered at no cost. So we don't report to the VA if
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you're a first responder, we do not report to your employer.
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It's 100% confidential and it's no we strictly rely on donations
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and fundraisers to fund the mission.
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But we're not billing insurance. None of that is going on at all.
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We're not billing your insurance.
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We're not billing the VA. It's strictly donations and
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fundraisers to fund that mission.
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All you have to do is go to the website.
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The website has some construction or undergoing some
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construction areas on some of it.
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But the main content that you need to know is on there.
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You go to the website twenty20.org, there's a contact
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section that's on the top right hand side.
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Fill that form out. It automatically comes to me.
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It automatically comes to Trisha Trisha's my social worker.
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We will reach out to you. Not two weeks, not 6, not 6
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months, Even on the weekends when those are coming in, I'm
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replying, reaching out to those contacts and saying hey, we're
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here. And then we're going to get you
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set up, you know, leaving a waiting list.
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You can also just e-mail get healed at 22 zero, the number
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22. So get healed at 22 0.org or you
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e-mail me, Doctor Arnell at 22 0.org you can I.
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Can. Facebook, but you can talk to
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Tia or Turbo and they're going to give you my number.
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And however, just reach out to me and I got your 6.
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I got you. And I can definitely attest to
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you guys not wasting any time and I'm sure I know Tia can as
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well. I know when I submitted it that
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same afternoon, I think, but maybe it was the next day, but
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it was quick. My first interview was within a
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day or so. I mean, it was quick.
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Now the whole process took about if I remember correctly, took
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about a month to go through the entire process because I went
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through I think it was 3 sessions and after each one we
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waited about a week before we went to another one.
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And each session was only about an hour long.
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But that, that one hour just makes such a drastic difference.
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Like even my wife would notice like you were saying how your
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husband noticed it after you would come through, come out of
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class, my wife would notice it for me pretty much words.
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And then as time has gone on, we've seen even more of a shift,
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even more of a change. And Tia, she was talking about
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earlier how she was feeling feeling broken.
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And you know, you at the time were suicidal, but you went from
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being feeling broken to being a beacon.
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And now you're taking veterans out on the track, chasing
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adrenaline and building community.
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Why does that work? Why?
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Why does it seem to work for you?
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So I found pretty much right after I did my session with 22
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Zero, I was struggling at the time with transitioning from
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being an artist. My hands, due to my disability
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from the military, had pretty much eaten away the soft tissue
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in my hands. So I started to notice that I
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could no longer paint, I could no longer do tattoos 'cause I
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learned how to tattoo. It was a big dream of mine and
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my hands just couldn't take it anymore.
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So that was also a big part of my depression was I didn't know
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what to do with my life. I had been an artist my entire
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life. And it was almost like I went
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through an identity crisis and I went to the racetrack.
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I went to go watch drag racing just one random time.
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I was like, you know what I miss?
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I miss going to the drag strip. I'm going to go check it out.
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And I realized very quickly that, you know, I was gripping
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the fence and literally screaming at every single car.
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And I was like, this is I haven't, I have this, if not
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more passion for cars than I did for art.
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And I just kind of put it, put it off to the side.
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You know, me and you had talked about how it's, it's expensive.
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And as a disabled veteran, I just assumed that that was just
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not something that I could do because I, I don't have that
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kind of financial, you know, ability.
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So once I did the session and my mind had become more clear and I
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had I, I had this new mission and that was to spread the word
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of 22 Zero for one, and to to gather as many veteran
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organizations as possible and scream it on the rooftop.
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Like, hey, look at me, listen to me and I, I need you to hear my
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story because this could literally save your life.
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And I figured if I was able to get into Motorsports in some
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kind of way, that that would be a great way to get attention.
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And also just to get the adrenaline that I didn't realize
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I was missing until I got it again, you know, 'cause when
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you're in the military, it's so high adrenaline, no matter what
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you're doing, you know that, that you could be called at any
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moment to go to war. So like you're living in like a
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high adrenaline state. And when you leave the military,
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you don't have that, you know, unless you find it somewhere.
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And there's also the brotherhood or the camaraderie that comes
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from the military that I was also missing.
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I didn't have my, I didn't have my, you know, fellow soldiers
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anymore. And I didn't really have a
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community of people that I felt close with.
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I did. I've never really had family.
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My family is, is, you know, far away.
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And I kind of cut ties with a lot of them.
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And I saw it when I went back to the track.
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And so I, the wheel started turning and I was like, OK, I am
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one of those people. I like to put my hands in a lot
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of different things. And I kind of stretch myself too
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thin. So I was like, how can I put
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this all into one package? And I was like, I'm going to
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become a driver. I'm going to use my car to
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advertise and I am going to get other veterans involved because
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the being at the racetrack it, it just, it gives me probably
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like 3 or 4 days of like a massive dopamine hit.
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And I any and all the veterans that I've brought to the track
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have said the same thing. They're like, oh man, like I
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didn't even realize that I needed this in my life.
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And it has been absolutely amazing because not only am I
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getting people out on the track, but I'm funneling all these
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people over to Pam so she can help them.
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Yeah, and doing great things. I, I, I love both of you guys.
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I, I really do. Tia introduced me to 22 zero and
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then just following Tia on on TikTok, which by the way, her
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TikTok is crazy car chick. You definitely got to check it
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out. Are you still doing the series
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with with the older gentleman that's rebuilding the the
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charger? I, I am, but he has, he's kind
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of taken like a little break with it, I guess.
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I, I, I kind of check in with him every once in a while to
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kind of see how it's going. Originally he was supposed to
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finish the car in April. So the last thing is going to be
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me. He's pretty much got the car
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almost finished, so the last thing is going to be us taking
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it out out on the road. So I'm just waiting for that,
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that lovely day that I get to ride in that car because I've
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literally followed him for the last year when the car was
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nothing but a metal shell. It it, it didn't have any pain.
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Yeah, the, the floor. Yeah, the floor was all rusted.
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It was, it was awful. And for him, it's been, I think
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a four year project, but I, I came in on the last year.
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So I really do hope that we can, we can get that out there soon.
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I'm going to have to call him and be like, hey, what's the
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hold up with the what's the hold up with the car?
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Yeah, I I'd love to see the finished project of that because
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it's, from what I've seen so far, it, it's a beautiful build.
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Oh, yes, it's all all original numbers matching car.
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And he is 75 years old and he is still climbing underneath that
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car, wrenching on it. And he told me that this is
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actually going to be his last build, which is kind of
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bittersweet, but I'm very I'm very honored that I got to be
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part of it. Oh.
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Absolutely. While while we're waiting on H
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to get back so he can put us on the break.
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When the last time me and you talked to you, I I named that
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episode from bear suits to drifting or or something along
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those lines and the video. Oh, dude, that's what got that's
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one of the things that got me with Tia is she would wear that
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but that bear costume out to these events and just go around
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and chat with people. And are you still doing that?
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I I hope you are. I actually I was telling you I I
29:03
just went to the good guys car show here in Nashville this
29:08
week, this past weekend and I landed Big Daddy's car care
29:12
products and cuz he loved my pitch, I told him I said I got.
29:17
The suit. I have, I have AI have a teddy
29:20
bear costume and I have I have this whole advertisement planned
29:26
with this teddy bear to be washing a car with this, with
29:30
the, the, the the soap cannon and you know everything.
29:34
And he was all about it. He just started handing me
29:38
products and he's like, here you go.
29:40
I can't wait to see the video. And I was like, dude, I can't
29:42
wait to make it is to be so much fun.
29:45
That's, that's awesome. I can't wait for you to do that
29:47
so we can see it. But now that H is back, he can
29:49
finally put us on break. Maybe if he's not, If he's not
29:55
busy. I'm not sure what you got going
30:04
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33:40
So Doctor Arnell, last week was pretty interesting for you.
33:44
You went to DC and then you also went to Augusta, GA, if I'm not
33:47
mistaken. So.
33:49
So how was that? What did you get to do?
33:51
Well, actually, so it was really good.
33:55
Two weeks ago I was in DC with Doctor Davis and Divide Society.
34:01
We had partnered with 22. Zero had partnered with them and
34:05
it was the premier of the documentary.
34:07
So Justin, which is one of our here coaches, combat vet and now
34:14
we're in the documentary and that was the premier.
34:16
In addition to the conference being up on the Hill, we were
34:20
able to meet with legislative aides and share about the
34:25
mission of 22 Zero and the by Society as a whole.
34:30
The by Society is really a think tank, but it's working on
34:35
traumatic brain injuries and coming up with, you know, other
34:39
forms and methods of how someone can get a traumatic brain injury
34:44
besides just an ID blast or, you know, from sports or whatever
34:48
that may look like that. That's what their research is.
34:53
So had that meeting and then got back and was in Augusta, GA was
34:59
asked by the Odette director for the VA to attend and present on
35:04
trauma and suicide, which I did. And out of that I was able to it
35:12
was, you know, I've always said if there's anywhere that I go,
35:15
even if there's just one, and which my goal is, you know,
35:20
making sure there's more veterans healed, but just one.
35:24
And so that one came up to me after talking and, and he was an
35:29
Air Force veteran and he really, really struggling.
35:32
I mean, he had no affect at all. And he said, can I talk to you?
35:37
Absolutely. Yeah.
35:38
Come on. So we go somewhere.
35:40
And he said, I'm, I'm really struggling, you know, and I just
35:45
looked at him and I worked on the, you know, some negative
35:49
emotions and running through the process.
35:52
And he was smiling and just dumbfound it and had that shift
35:56
and, you know, like we were talking about.
35:59
And he was so grateful. And, you know, and I just said
36:02
God, and I know he was the one. After that.
36:06
I had been contacted by other veterans since then that are now
36:10
going through the process. But it's doing really good.
36:14
I also was able to have a meeting this morning with one of
36:20
the senators for a bill that's they're working on in
36:25
legislation. But I had a meeting and shared
36:28
about the mission of 22 Zero and what we do.
36:31
And so I'll be setting up a meeting with them, the VA
36:35
committee. So praying that we can finally
36:39
get the VA to recognize, you know, listen to our veterans
36:43
because what you're doing is not working.
36:46
So at some point, something needs to change.
36:48
So I'm praying and hoping that, you know, the VA committee will
36:53
listen and the VA can make some changes.
36:56
Now, hopefully so you know, I've got a just like Tia probably got
37:00
a medicine cabinet full of freaking meds from the VA that
37:02
the VA cocktails we like to call it.
37:04
But honestly, I feel like I've probably gained more from your
37:08
program than I have those medications because I find
37:13
myself going through the, like you were saying earlier that the
37:15
third person process, I think that's what you actually called
37:19
it. But anybody that's been through
37:21
it, you know what I'm talking about.
37:24
I find myself every now and then doing that on my own since I
37:27
went through the 22 Zero program and that it seems like every
37:33
time I do it, something, something else is lifted off off
37:36
my shoulders and it's, it's so much more effective then Prozac
37:42
or whatever ambient or whatever else anybody's on, you know, in
37:45
my opinion. Has there been any particular
37:51
moment you've interaction you've had with a veteran or first
37:54
responder that's come through the program that is that is
37:57
stuck out to you? Oh oh gosh.
38:03
Other than Tia. So I mean, tell you definitely
38:08
stands out, but you know. So before I answer that, let me
38:14
explain to you why I'm going to go this way.
38:18
So my husband served 26 years and you know, 22 zero started
38:22
asking me to come on board months, I mean probably 10 or 11
38:26
months before I ever agreed to come on because I was actually
38:30
the kid police. That's what they call the kids
38:32
call this the youth service officer.
38:35
And you know, my concern was if I left that position in the
38:38
county that those kids were going to fall through the crack
38:41
and I did not want that. But my husband was able to
38:46
witness first hand when we were in Florida at military family
38:51
weekend, Nick Davis actually worked with him.
38:56
Like I mentioned, he was in Desert Storm.
38:57
So he he had his his stuff in saying that he wanted to make
39:04
sure and and he really fully understood the mission by this
39:08
point. And he told me no matter what
39:11
happens, you leave no one behind.
39:12
And that was ingrained in me from the time we met.
39:16
You know, I would hear of my uncles who served in the
39:18
military and were in combat, but it did not really resonate.
39:22
And I did not really understand that until being married into
39:25
the family, military family community and, and knowing what
39:29
that actually meant because I was so young back then.
39:33
But in saying that, you know, there were three events when
39:37
when he decided to go on Hospice, there were 3 events
39:40
that had been planned like 8 months prior.
39:43
And I was not going to go. I was going to get someone else
39:46
to go. And he wouldn't let me do that.
39:48
He said, no, you're going. And I told him, I said, I swear
39:50
to you if you die while I'm gone, I'm going to come back.
39:53
I'm going to the Funeral Home and I'm going to tell Steve,
39:55
Steve, I need to see him. I'm fixing to whip him because
39:58
don't, don't leave that with me. And he promised me, he said no,
40:01
he said, but I can see you come to the Funeral Home and doing
40:04
that. I said, dude, I will whip you
40:05
all up and down that place, don't you?
40:08
So. And he didn't, you know, he, he
40:11
said, I promise I'll, I'll, I promise I won't.
40:14
So I went to those three events. And when I say that because
40:20
before he went into that deep sleep, before he passed away,
40:23
the last thing he told me was I love you.
40:25
Do everything to make sure you leave no one behind, pal.
40:29
I please promise me. I don't care what you do.
40:32
You just make sure you don't leave anyone behind.
40:34
And I told him, I said I will do everything in my power to make
40:37
sure I leave nobody behind. So anytime someone comes in, you
40:42
know, and I'm working with them myself, all of them, I remember
40:48
all of them. Because when I do that, then
40:51
that kind of helps fill that gap to make sure that I didn't leave
40:55
anyone behind. We have many, many that come in
40:59
because of all the roles that I do.
41:02
I don't work with all of our mission clients just because of
41:06
all the things that I'm involved with and doing and growing the
41:08
mission and legislation and stuff like that.
41:12
But every time that I work with somebody there, it's always an
41:16
impact and it's always a positive, you know, impact to
41:20
see the change on them. And that gives me that desire to
41:24
keep going. I didn't think it was going to
41:29
get so emotional. I'm glad it did, though.
41:31
I mean, that's, that's great. I think you're doing wonderful,
41:34
by the way. And do not leave anyone behind,
41:40
you know, never leave a fallen comrade.
41:44
That speaks to me on so many levels because that's exactly
41:47
why me and Michael do what we do with Czech of that.
41:50
And that's why we're going to North Carolina this weekend.
41:53
I'm sure that's why T is doing what she does, and like you
41:58
said, you don't really understand that until until
42:02
you're in a position to experience.
42:04
Right. So yeah, I didn't, I didn't
42:09
think, I don't know where to go from here now, but I'm very glad
42:16
that you're doing that. You're doing what you're doing.
42:18
It's changed my life for sure. Damn it, Joel.
42:24
Well, I have something to add. It's it may seem, and I know
42:30
Pam, because you don't get to work with as many people as I
42:33
know you would like to. But for every one person that
42:37
we'd talk to and that we get involved, they can it, they can
42:44
get that message out to hundreds, if not thousands, if
42:47
not millions. You know, if, if they're on
42:48
social media like we are, you know, like I, I went from
42:52
having, you know, a couple 100 views a month to I think I, I
42:57
reached close to 6 million views in a month.
43:01
So just one person that you have an effect on has the ability to
43:09
help countless people. You know, 'cause I know for me,
43:12
I want to save everybody. And but we can't, you know, we
43:16
personally can't, but we can inspire, you know, so many
43:21
people to do the same thing. It's like a domino effect.
43:25
And I, I, I just, there's just, there's just not enough.
43:30
There's not words to describe how much it means.
43:34
I mean, it is very emotional. It's taken me a lot to prepare
43:38
myself before I do these interviews because of how much
43:43
this means to me. You know, like if I'm talking to
43:46
a veteran and they're like, I've already done therapy and it
43:50
takes everything I have not to get like heavily emotional.
43:54
Be like, listen to me, like you, you're not listening.
43:56
You have to do this. What do I have to do to get you
44:01
to do this? Because it's it's that
44:03
impactful. Agreed.
44:07
And Pam, if you remember TA, you don't know this yet.
44:11
I'm about to surprise you and I probably shouldn't say anything,
44:15
but I'm going to anyway. Michael can just he can get on
44:18
me later. So the last meeting that Miss
44:22
Miss Arnell, Dr. Arnell and I had with with Carmichael and the
44:25
rest of the rest of the group building this program, without
44:30
getting too into the weeds about it, I kind of nominated you to
44:35
be one of our frontrunners of this program for Yeah.
44:42
And that's why is because exactly what you're doing,
44:45
you're all how do I do this without giving out too much
44:49
juice? I'll do that.
44:52
Hey, I'll hey tell you we have something that we want you to
44:56
do. We can't go into a lot of the
44:57
detail right now, but we have a mission for you and it's going
45:01
to fit right up your alley with the veterans and you're going to
45:05
be able to make a lot more conversations, I'll put it that
45:08
way. I'm you know, hey, you know, I'm
45:11
down. That's what I was I was talking
45:13
about. I was talking, I was talking to
45:16
the NASCAR driver earlier, He said would you like to come to
45:21
Bristol? And I said, let me stop you
45:24
right there. It's never would you like to it
45:28
is can you get there? Because I I, I live for this.
45:33
I literally live for this as you as but you know, there's no
45:37
pictures right now, but I covered my entire daily driver
45:42
car with 22 zero and other veteran organizations and a lot
45:48
of people gave me kind of a hard time about it.
45:50
Like why would you do that to your car?
45:53
It is completely covered, but I get stopped all the time.
45:58
I, I get people reading my car. I added the QR code so they can
46:03
go directly to all the links. But I get stopped all the time
46:07
from other veterans. I've literally have
46:10
conversations with people at stoplights about, you know,
46:14
thank you for your service. I was in the service.
46:16
What, what is this all about? And I'm like, hey, go to the
46:19
links and I promise you, you will get everything you need.
46:23
And like, I mean, if I'm at the gas station, I get stopped at
46:27
the grocery store because I live for this.
46:29
I like after you experience something so life changing and
46:34
you go from being in the depths of darkness and you have people
46:39
that have failed you, you know that we're supposed to take care
46:42
of you. And then you find these people
46:45
that are passionate about helping veterans and they help
46:49
you and they, they lift you up from drowning.
46:53
All, all I can think about is how can I help as many people as
46:58
possible? It's, it's all I think about and
47:02
it's all I will do for the rest of my life until my last breath.
47:06
I'll be on my deathbed going. Have you heard of 22 Zero?
47:11
And check a bit. And check a bit, yeah, yeah,
47:14
like here's all my links. Go to the links.
47:20
So I think that's a good spot for us to pause and take a
47:23
break. And when we come back, I kind of
47:27
see your your survivor now, but you're building something
47:30
bigger. And when we come back, I want to
47:32
talk about what's new with you and what you're doing to keep
47:36
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49:19
All right, welcome back to Czech Event NATION.
49:21
And so, Tia, you're more than just a survivor.
49:24
Is she gone? Where you at, girl?
49:30
See ya. Wonder did she hit the camera
49:39
button? I don't know.
49:44
Oh, what do you mean she comes? Oh, she missed a lost service
49:47
There she comes. She's coming back home.
49:49
She's coming back all right. Yeah.
49:52
Sorry for the the technical difficulties folks.
49:58
I bet she lost service. There she comes.
50:06
Hey, Turbo, one of the things while while we're waiting for
50:09
Taya to come on, one of the things that I, you know, I want
50:12
to make sure every veteran out there, first responder, spouse,
50:16
man or child, Gold Star family knows 22 Zero is here for you.
50:24
Please go to the website. If anyone wants to donate, it's
50:28
you know, we're a nonprofit and you will get a donation letter
50:32
for tax purposes and it costs $250 to sponsor a veteran to get
50:39
the healing that they deserve. So if you want to do that,
50:42
please go to our donate link on the website.
50:46
Most importantly, if you're struggling, please contact us,
50:51
reach out the numbers that are on the website.
50:53
Even that 800 number comes into my phone.
50:56
So if my phone goes everywhere I go, so I can I take those calls?
51:02
Yes, I take them nights and yes, I take them weekends and I take
51:05
them on the holidays. So, you know, please know that
51:09
that we're here for you. Absolutely.
51:12
Reach out. What in the world's going on?
51:14
But she was just back. She was just back.
51:18
But like I was saying, absolutely reach out to 22 Zero
51:22
if you feel like you need any help because I promise you it'll
51:27
be well worth your time. It's not like any other therapy
51:29
session you've ever been to. So Tia now that you're back, I
51:35
think. I have gotten 6 phone calls in
51:41
the last. 2 That's what's going on when people are calling.
51:49
They've gone to her link. No, that's good though.
51:51
They've gone to her, her website and they're calling her like,
51:54
hey, is this stuff real? Like are you being serious?
51:57
It's amazing. People, if you got warrants up
52:00
for your arrest, probably won't be a good idea for you to be on
52:03
the show. Matter of fact, I should
52:07
probably put her website up in the in the chat.
52:11
That is so funny. I really want her to want to ask
52:16
her this question because I I know she's got some stuff she
52:19
wants to share. Do not disturb girl, not you
52:33
back. She's like I.
52:38
Don't. Know what is going on.
52:41
All right, So just a suggestion. If you put it on airplane mode,
52:44
you'll still get the Internet and you'll still be able to talk
52:47
to us now. Are you there?
52:51
Oh, there. So I'm sorry about that.
52:54
That's OK. Tia.
52:56
Just a suggestion. Just a suggestion and they keep
53:00
calling. Just put your phone on airplane
53:03
mode and connect to the Internet and that will solve that.
53:07
Yeah, it was about the kids. That's the only thing.
53:10
So, all right, I think we're, I think we're good.
53:14
I'm sorry. No, it's all right.
53:16
It's all right. But so like I was saying before
53:19
the break and before everything kind of went crazy, so T you're
53:22
more than just a survivor now, you're building something
53:25
bigger. What's next for you and what do
53:29
you need to keep this momentum going?
53:32
So I think I've, I've talked to you about a little bit for the
53:37
last 2 1/2 years I have been working with an organization
53:40
called Slide Factory and then sponsored by Graphic Effects in
53:45
Murfreesboro, TN. They do all the decals that are
53:49
covering my car. And recently just was it April
53:56
17th, which was actually National Mustang Day, Graphic
54:02
Effects and Slide Factory donated my Motorsports program a
54:07
95 Mustang. So starting next weekend, we are
54:11
going to be building a drift car.
54:14
And this has been my dream for the last 2 1/2 years, which is
54:18
going to take this program to the next level because I will be
54:22
able to hit every event that we do, but I will be driving and
54:27
giving veterans rides at every event.
54:31
This has been a long time coming.
54:34
I'm so excited. I'm not too worried about the,
54:39
the, the momentum dying because I am, you know, you've seen, I'm
54:44
extremely active on social media, but what I need is I
54:50
need, obviously, I need sponsors.
54:52
I need people willing to donate, whether it's parts for the car
54:57
or time at the track. I'm going to have to build a pit
55:02
crew to help me with the car because I am 100% disabled.
55:05
I can't really, you know, do a lot of work when it comes to the
55:08
car. So we're going to have to have
55:11
people changing tires and people helping, you know, if anything
55:14
goes wrong, people helping run our tent because the, the events
55:22
are like a full day and everything is, everything is
55:26
supplied from the, from the moment that the veteran shows
55:30
up. All they have to do is get there
55:32
and we take care of the rest. Usually do coffee and Donuts in
55:37
the morning. We supply all of their
55:40
refreshments and snacks throughout the day and then also
55:44
like give them lunch so they don't have to worry about
55:48
anything. So yeah, sponsorship is
55:51
definitely a big one for me. I've been trying to lock in tire
55:56
sponsor, especially because of the cost of tires and how many
56:01
tires you go through and drifting is kind of ridiculous.
56:07
But sharing, sharing my social media stuff online is a is a
56:13
great way to help and sending veterans my way that are
56:20
interested in Motorsports. And it doesn't matter where
56:23
they're at. I can find them, you know, so,
56:26
you know, I try to help connect them with Motorsports
56:29
experiences. If they're not in the Nashville
56:32
area, I myself cover Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, Indiana,
56:39
Georgia, and in the in the winter time, the plan is to take
56:45
a couple veterans out to Colorado to go ice drifting.
56:50
Oh wow, I want to go. You should.
56:53
Definitely come. That would be so fun.
56:57
I think that I think that 22 Zero and Czech vet needs to do a
57:02
big celebration at the end of the year.
57:09
That's not my call. I would love to well.
57:12
That's how you can help. You can go talk to your people.
57:17
This Turbo, just tell Carmichael, look, we have to do
57:20
this, The film's doing it. We're going to have to do it.
57:22
You don't want to be outdone by film.
57:25
The good thing? The good thing is the flights
57:28
are really cheap in the winter. Time to go to Colorado.
57:33
Look, the organization's already paying for my flight to go down
57:36
to North Carolina this weekend. Hey, but it's not, it's not
57:39
until like January or February. So you're good.
57:43
Well. We we can talk about some stuff
57:45
because let's see Czech events doing.
57:48
We got the North Carolina race this weekend from a memorial
57:50
weekend to Coca-Cola 600. And then we're doing Sturgis.
57:56
Heck, he was just at Texas Motor Speedway.
57:58
He was just at Bristol. I think we'll be at Bristol
58:02
again the same time you're going.
58:04
Well, there we go. We can.
58:05
We can do something in September.
58:07
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure on that because I'm not sure if
58:13
we're going back to real store or not.
58:14
I know he normally does, but we'll.
58:16
We'll we'll figure it out. And yeah, so we're kind of
58:22
running out of time here. But one final question for both
58:26
of you, Doctor Arnell and Miss Miss Tia, What do you say to
58:31
someone listening right now who's hurting and maybe thinking
58:35
about giving up? Go ahead, Pam.
58:39
So I'm going to say this, I'm I'm actually going to challenge
58:43
you. I'm going to do a call to action
58:46
within my challenge. If you are thinking about giving
58:50
up, please contact me first. Just contact me.
58:55
Let let us get you set up with a peer coach.
58:58
Let's get you out of the crisis. Let's run you through the
59:00
process. Don't do that.
59:03
And, and I also want to say, you know, for those that that have
59:09
died by suicide, let us remember we're, you're leaving family
59:13
behind and imagine the impact that that has on the family,
59:18
your friends, your community. So if you are feeling like that,
59:25
please contact me. I promise you, I no one's going
59:29
to know you contacted us. No one's it's not going to be
59:32
reported to the VA. Contact us because you are worth
59:36
it. You are worth the healing.
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Trauma is trauma. It does not matter when you got
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that trauma deployed or not. Let us heal that trauma.
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But imagine what it would look like for your family when you
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have the healing that you deserve and your family has the
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healing they deserve. Don't do that to your family,
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don't do that to your friends, and don't do that to your
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community. Call me.
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Absolutely. If I, if, if I'm talking to
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somebody, I, I basically try to tell them, look, I went through
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40 years off and on of therapy, medication, all the things,
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retreats, you name it. I did it to try to heal myself.
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And it didn't even touch what I had going on.
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So I had lost all hope that I was not able to be fixed, that I
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was completely broken and, you know, unfixable.
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And what I tell people is there is a very simple solution and
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there is a way to heal the damage that has been done.
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I've been there and I care about every single person out there.
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So if you think that nobody cares about you and that you're
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not worth it, I care. And all of your brothers and
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sisters in arms would not want to know that you were.
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You became a statistic that it's as simple as reaching out to
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check a vet or 22 zero. And the sooner you do it, the
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better. Don't waste any time, you know,
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do it right now. Like don't wait till tomorrow,
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don't wait till the next day. Do it right now.
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If if that's what you're thinking about, reach out to
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them right now. Absolutely.
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Thank you, Doctor Ardell, and thank you to you.
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I really appreciate your time And that's it for today's
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mission and you guys heard it here.
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First healing is possible. If you're a veteran or first
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responder that's struggling with PTSD, anxiety or depression,
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please visit twenty20.org and take the first step.
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I'm Turbo. This is check a vet nation and
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you're not alone. Until next time, check a vet,
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share the mission and keep fighting forward.
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for tuning in to Military Broadcast Radio.
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As we wrap up today's show, we want to remind you that the
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