Latest / The Ian Furness Show / Furness Show 3-31: Joe Sheehan, John Lund
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, you got illness running through the locker room right now.
- 0:02Speaker 1: Apparently Jessamin McIntyre's out today. She's not feeling good, so
- 0:05Speaker 1: she's out. Moger is in our guy Trav. What's happening?
- 0:10Speaker 1: How we doing? Doing great? Good? I appreciate it coming
- 0:12Speaker 1: in earlier. Else got a hockey game to run later tonight.
- 0:14Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here all night. You and I have
- 0:16Speaker 1: that in common, though I won't be here. I'll be
- 0:17Speaker 1: elsewhere for the KRACK and Hockey Network. But good to
- 0:20Speaker 1: have you in with a day. Andrews is running the
- 0:22Speaker 1: afternoon show, but we got a big show. It's Tuesday. Joe,
- 0:25Speaker 1: she and will join us. Joshian newsletter coming up here
- 0:27Speaker 1: in about fifteen minutes or so. Checking with Joe about
- 0:30Speaker 1: all things baseball. After I'd say week one, it's not
- 0:33Speaker 1: even week one yet, right, it's we're five days into
- 0:36Speaker 1: the season. But we'll get Joe's thoughts. Mariners and Yankees
- 0:39Speaker 1: continue their series tonight. I didn't even mention this. I
- 0:41Speaker 1: forgot about this, and I had it written down. I apologize.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Cole Emerson has now signed a ninety five million dollar
- 0:47Speaker 1: deal and he hasn't played a game in the major
- 0:49Speaker 1: leagues yet and it's it's we'll talk to Joe a
- 0:52Speaker 1: little bit about that coming up. Could be one of
- 0:56Speaker 1: those great great contracts when it's all said and done,
- 0:59Speaker 1: where it we're works out really well for the player,
- 1:01Speaker 1: life changing guaranteed money. He probably could have made more
- 1:04Speaker 1: on they decide if he's really good or he has
- 1:07Speaker 1: life changing money and turns into Evan White. Meanwhile, if
- 1:10Speaker 1: he turns out to be what they think he's going
- 1:11Speaker 1: to turn out to be, then the Mariner's probably got
- 1:13Speaker 1: a deal, so probably win win for both sides. And
- 1:17Speaker 1: just I think everyone just wants to see this kid
- 1:19Speaker 1: in the biggs and see what he can do in
- 1:21Speaker 1: major league in the major leagues. But good for him.
- 1:23Speaker 1: So we'll talk about all the things baseball was she
- 1:25Speaker 1: and coming up Joshian Newsletter at one twenty John Lund
- 1:27Speaker 1: will join us at two and I was looking back
- 1:30Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get into this in just a second.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen Oakland Raiders were was the final season in
- 1:37Speaker 1: Oakland before the Raiders moved to Vegas, and I believe
- 1:43Speaker 1: Lund was doing the pre and post game for the
- 1:46Speaker 1: Raiders then on their network. I believe, So I think
- 1:49Speaker 1: he's lived through a hard knocks And I bring that
- 1:52Speaker 1: up because Mark and I were just talking about this
- 1:55Speaker 1: a moment ago. This is a good fun thing. We
- 1:56Speaker 1: can talk about it today. On the text line four nine,
- 1:58Speaker 1: four to five one that's to come a Dodge text
- 1:59Speaker 1: line shop Komba Dodge Chrysler g Bram at the corner
- 2:01Speaker 1: of thirty eighth and South to come away. The intersection
- 2:04Speaker 1: is savings. Mark asked me, you know, hey, what do
- 2:07Speaker 1: you think of of hard It'd be fine, kind of cool,
- 2:09Speaker 1: I know, like for for And I'm gonna say this,
- 2:12Speaker 1: this is this is a quick little disclaimer. There are
- 2:16Speaker 1: those who do what we do, whether it's sports radio,
- 2:23Speaker 1: sports television, sports writing, newspapers, whatever it might be, they
- 2:31Speaker 1: cover the team that are gonna hate it because it's
- 2:34Speaker 1: gonna be restrictive and there's gonna be stuff going on.
- 2:36Speaker 1: They're gonna take over space and rooms and all that
- 2:38Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and so it's gonna be for the
- 2:42Speaker 1: But the fan doesn't care about that. Nobody listening right
- 2:45Speaker 1: now cares about our inconveniences. So I'm gonna shove that
- 2:48Speaker 1: to the side. And I would just say, if you're
- 2:50Speaker 1: a Seahawk fan, I think you got to be elated
- 2:52Speaker 1: or are you four nine four five one? And now
- 2:55Speaker 1: here's why I ask so I mentioned to Mark the
- 2:57Speaker 1: last two, the last two teams that did it Buffalo
- 3:02Speaker 1: last year, Chicago two years ago, hell, the Jets three
- 3:08Speaker 1: years ago all fired their coaches. Now then I started
- 3:15Speaker 1: living a little deeper, diving to this thing, like who's
- 3:18Speaker 1: had success? Buffalo did go to the postseason last year, right,
- 3:22Speaker 1: but the Bills did. But then they didn't like the
- 3:24Speaker 1: results and Victormo was out. Thanks for coming, You're gone, Bears.
- 3:27Speaker 1: They fired Matt Eberfluss in season. The twenty twenty four
- 3:30Speaker 1: hard Knocks Jets were just an absolute dumpster fire and
- 3:33Speaker 1: end of the story there. Aaron Rodgers was the focal
- 3:36Speaker 1: point of that Hard knocks, right, he took three snaps
- 3:39Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and snapped his achilles tenant out
- 3:41Speaker 1: for the year. Hard knocks jinks, you tell me that's
- 3:46Speaker 1: the last three Detroit Lions twenty twenty two they were
- 3:50Speaker 1: nine to eight. But but how about this. They were
- 3:56Speaker 1: one and six to start the season. They torpedoed their
- 3:58Speaker 1: season in the first seven games they were one and six.
- 4:01Speaker 1: They finished strong, just missed the playoffs, but they were
- 4:03Speaker 1: nin nay missed the playoffs. Cowboys are the team I
- 4:07Speaker 1: can kind of find. That's the outlier. Mike McCarthy's twenty
- 4:10Speaker 1: twenty one Dallas Cowboys there were twelve and five, won
- 4:13Speaker 1: the NFC East, but they lost in the wildcard ground. Okay,
- 4:20Speaker 1: charging the Rams he did in twenty twenty, I'm not
- 4:21Speaker 1: even gonna count that because it was COVID like, it
- 4:24Speaker 1: just doesn't matter. Raiders. I just told you about John Gruden,
- 4:31Speaker 1: Mike Mayock, and yeah, they had Antonio Brown horror show
- 4:35Speaker 1: going on. If you remember that that year, that was good.
- 4:37Speaker 1: They were seven to nine. I guess by Raiders standards,
- 4:39Speaker 1: seven to nine is pretty good. Cleveland Brown's twenty eighteen
- 4:42Speaker 1: firedhead coach Hugh Jackson midway through the season. Tamiby Buccaneers
- 4:47Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. They were hoping to get things going. They
- 4:50Speaker 1: finished last in the NFC South. Twenty sixteen La Rams.
- 4:55Speaker 1: This was one of my favorites, the Rams. None of
- 4:59Speaker 1: the amous line. In the twenty sixteen Hard Knocks from
- 5:02Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher, we are not going seven and nine because
- 5:06Speaker 1: they were always the seven and nine tem when they
- 5:08Speaker 1: were in Saint Louis. They just moved to LA. They
- 5:10Speaker 1: didn't go seven to nine, they went four and twelve.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen Houston Texans they went nine to seven wildcard
- 5:18Speaker 1: team got shut out in the wildcard round, thirty to nothing.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen Atlanta, fl Because this is one that Mark
- 5:23Speaker 1: I think was down therefore he was working in Atlanta.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Then they were five and twelve. We keep going. Twenty
- 5:30Speaker 1: thirteen Bengals, they were good, eleven and five, won their division.
- 5:34Speaker 1: But guess what they did lost in the wildcard round.
- 5:36Speaker 1: I could go on. I was more excited initially, and
- 5:41Speaker 1: then I looked at it and there is a hard
- 5:43Speaker 1: knocks jinks going on here that is unavoidable. It's there,
- 5:46Speaker 1: right there in front of you. It's right there. Now,
- 5:51Speaker 1: do we believe in Jenks's Are we superstitious in sports?
- 5:53Speaker 2: Hell?
- 5:53Speaker 1: Yes we are. That's what sports are all about, one
- 5:56Speaker 1: hundred percent. I don't think, like eber Flus and a
- 6:00Speaker 1: couple other guys, you're gonna see a coach fired in
- 6:02Speaker 1: the middle of year. I think Mike McDonald's okay coming
- 6:05Speaker 1: off a Super Bowl, but it brings up even just
- 6:09Speaker 1: expectations for this team. The best we've seen for a
- 6:14Speaker 1: hard knocks team is winning a division but getting knocked
- 6:18Speaker 1: out in the wildcard round. The last couple of times
- 6:20Speaker 1: that's in the last two decades is wildcard round loss.
- 6:23Speaker 1: That won't be acceptable here. No one here is gonna
- 6:26Speaker 1: be happy if this team doesn't at least get to
- 6:28Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, right. I mean that you're coming
- 6:30Speaker 1: off with Super Bowl. Your your expectations are not to
- 6:33Speaker 1: just be a wildcard team or getting knocked out in
- 6:35Speaker 1: the wildcard round if you don't have a buy in
- 6:37Speaker 1: the first round. If you're at division champion, you have
- 6:38Speaker 1: to play a game.
- 6:39Speaker 3: No.
- 6:41Speaker 1: But the other thing is, if you're a Seahawk fan,
- 6:45Speaker 1: you're gonna see stuff behind the scenes that you've never
- 6:47Speaker 1: seen before. You're gonna get a chance to see inside
- 6:49Speaker 1: the vMac, which most people don't get a see. We
- 6:53Speaker 1: kind of do with the draft and coverage and everything
- 6:55Speaker 1: we get to do out there, but there's parts of
- 6:57Speaker 1: the vMac we don't see. You know, I couldn't tell
- 7:01Speaker 1: you what Schnyder's office looks like or McDonald's office looks like.
- 7:03Speaker 1: I know what meetings rooms look like, because that's what
- 7:05Speaker 1: we are for covering the draft upstairs like a cafeteria
- 7:09Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But yeah, you're gonna see you're
- 7:12Speaker 1: gonna get as a Seahawk fan. I think it's a
- 7:14Speaker 1: really cool deal because you've never had this chance. Now
- 7:18Speaker 1: you could make a little bit of an argument like, hey,
- 7:22Speaker 1: you know what would have been kind of cool if
- 7:26Speaker 1: this would have happened back in the day with all
- 7:28Speaker 1: those personalities, although I don't know how that would have
- 7:32Speaker 1: worked out. There was almost too much personality. You're gonna
- 7:36Speaker 1: put a mic on Earl, good luck, You're gonna put
- 7:38Speaker 1: a mic on Sherm. God help us. Marshall's not going
- 7:41Speaker 1: to talk to you, so that would have been worthless.
- 7:43Speaker 1: He'll just look at you and he'll pop in, throw
- 7:45Speaker 1: a couple f bombs out and that's it. Move along.
- 7:49Speaker 1: The other thing is you're gonna see some guys that
- 7:50Speaker 1: become stars out of this, and I think that's the
- 7:53Speaker 1: one positive for Seattle. They're the super Bowl champions. Do
- 7:57Speaker 1: they have a superstar? Well, JSN I guess would kind
- 7:59Speaker 1: of fit that role. But he's had He's had one
- 8:01Speaker 1: superstar season. Devin Witherspoon's gonna be a superstar, been a
- 8:06Speaker 1: pro bowler. I'm gonna predict right now at the top
- 8:09Speaker 1: of the list of guys that are gonna come out
- 8:11Speaker 1: and people are gonna go man that I like that guy.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon. He never stops talking. It's funny because his
- 8:17Speaker 1: interviews are kind of eh so so, like when you
- 8:20Speaker 1: put him on a podium or even just do an
- 8:22Speaker 1: interview with him, he's yeah, he's okay. But when we
- 8:25Speaker 1: go out especially that so much training camp because it's
- 8:28Speaker 1: loud and there's fans and all that. When we're out
- 8:30Speaker 1: there like for mini camps and on the sideline up close,
- 8:33Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Witherspoon is shrm like he never In fact,
- 8:37Speaker 1: he might be worse. He's always talking. That guy has
- 8:39Speaker 1: a bravado. He's got a personality, he's got a swagger.
- 8:43Speaker 1: I love it. That's what you want from a dB.
- 8:45Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a star of this. Jsn's
- 8:48Speaker 1: gonna come across as exactly who he is. One of
- 8:50Speaker 1: the nicest guys. I'm just polite, mellow, nice, unassuming superstars
- 8:53Speaker 1: are gonna find. I'm sure they'll focus in on Darnold,
- 8:56Speaker 1: who's pretty cool, nice, but he's mellow, big personality wise,
- 9:00Speaker 1: outside of spoon. I mean, they'll probably be around Julian
- 9:04Speaker 1: Love a little bit. I would think some of the
- 9:08Speaker 1: D Line Ernest Jones is a guy you want to
- 9:10Speaker 1: have a mic on. I think Ernest Jones for sure,
- 9:13Speaker 1: D Line Shenna or DeMarcus Lawrence. Yeah, Murphy probably want.
- 9:22Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll go down the Murphy road.
- 9:25Speaker 1: I think Gray Zabel could be a candidate to be
- 9:27Speaker 1: a star in this thing. I think, just the redneck
- 9:30Speaker 1: offensive lineman from North Dakota that's just sitting there smashing
- 9:34Speaker 1: bush lights and doing his thing, he could be a
- 9:36Speaker 1: massive personality in this Yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting
- 9:41Speaker 1: to see. Like I think it'll be fun. It'll be fun.
- 9:44Speaker 1: But there is a cause for concern because the track
- 9:48Speaker 1: record tells you that teams are on hard knocks don't
- 9:51Speaker 1: do well.
- 9:52Speaker 4: I mean, up until last season, the NFL didn't allow
- 9:56Speaker 4: playoff teams.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Right, they just switched the rules. I don't know if
- 9:59Speaker 1: you were probably coming doing the little transition. MJ had
- 10:02Speaker 1: an interesting theory. I'm buying into it, even if it's
- 10:06Speaker 1: not true. I like I like the theory. I like
- 10:08Speaker 1: the theory a lot, he says. I wonder if this
- 10:12Speaker 1: was a compromise. If the NFL wanted the Seahawks to
- 10:14Speaker 1: open the season in Australia and they said, we're the champs,
- 10:17Speaker 1: you guys can pound sand compromises, you'll do hard knocks instead.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Like I wonder if that's because no team's ever come
- 10:23Speaker 1: off a Super Bowl and done this. I know they
- 10:25Speaker 1: changed the rules, but it was just playoffs before that.
- 10:27Speaker 1: So to have your Super Bowl champion doing it is interesting.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Schneider could be a star in this thing. Schneider could
- 10:34Speaker 1: be an absolute flat out star. If he's Schneider, if
- 10:40Speaker 1: he's who he normally is, people, he's going to be
- 10:43Speaker 1: the Dan Campbell of executives because where Dan Campbell's public
- 10:47Speaker 1: persona and help people love Dan Campbell now because he
- 10:50Speaker 1: just you know, I brought this kick some ass off
- 10:53Speaker 1: like and just football guy and then can coach like
- 10:57Speaker 1: Dan Campbell can flat out coach. Schneider is just everyday dude,
- 11:02Speaker 1: like gonna have a pine of Mannies and just kick
- 11:04Speaker 1: back and do my thing and all that. That's who
- 11:07Speaker 1: Schneider is and very relatable for the average person. And
- 11:11Speaker 1: if he if they portray him like who and what
- 11:14Speaker 1: he is everyday man who will, by the way, is
- 11:16Speaker 1: the best GM in the NFL. Well, it's pretty good.
- 11:19Speaker 4: We kind of got a taste of that at the parade.
- 11:23Speaker 1: More than a taste, more than a taste. Hey, King TV,
- 11:28Speaker 1: FCC's online one. All right, we'll take a break, we'll
- 11:30Speaker 1: come back. Joshi and Joshian Newsletter joined us. Coming up next.
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- 12:00Speaker 1: Josh and Josian Newsletter Joe Shean dot com. Go check
- 12:04Speaker 1: it out. If you're a baseball fan. If you're listening
- 12:06Speaker 1: right now, you probably are. Our baseball team now is
- 12:08Speaker 1: played five games out of one hundred and sixty two,
- 12:11Speaker 1: so we can make some sweeping judgments of what's going
- 12:13Speaker 1: on right now in baseball. Hi, Joe, how are you goody?
- 12:17Speaker 5: And what's going on? Man?
- 12:18Speaker 1: Well, what kind of sweeping judgments can we make after
- 12:20Speaker 1: five games? What can we How can we overreact, Joe?
- 12:22Speaker 1: How can we overreact today?
- 12:24Speaker 6: Let me give you one stat. Fifty seven strikeouts eleven walks.
- 12:28Speaker 6: That's the pitching staff. That's what the pitching staff is
- 12:30Speaker 6: done this year. Five to one strikeouts to walk rt year.
- 12:33Speaker 6: One of the reasons I had the Narritors being so
- 12:36Speaker 6: successful this year is because I did love the pitching staff.
- 12:38Speaker 6: They've showed out. You know, you get a few runs
- 12:40Speaker 6: here and there, but that baseline number fifty seven to
- 12:42Speaker 6: eleven strike outs a walk, that's the thing you want
- 12:44Speaker 6: to look at earlier.
- 12:45Speaker 7: This is I.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Don't know if we I don't think we got a
- 12:49Speaker 1: chance last week to talk about it, and I wanted
- 12:51Speaker 1: to get to this with you and for those who
- 12:55Speaker 1: don't know, Joe started doing this type of work in
- 12:58Speaker 1: Joshian newsletter. But just the baseball perspectus and all that,
- 13:01Speaker 1: like just years ago, at the kind of the at
- 13:04Speaker 1: the forefront, Joe, I say, this is all due respect
- 13:07Speaker 1: and endearing qualities that I can baseball. Joe is one
- 13:10Speaker 1: of the original baseball nerds, and that's why we love them,
- 13:13Speaker 1: but you have a bigger perspective than some are. Your
- 13:16Speaker 1: writing's fantastic. That's why we have you on. I use
- 13:19Speaker 1: that for this reason. I love your opinions on bigger
- 13:22Speaker 1: picture things in baseball. Let me start with ABS and
- 13:25Speaker 1: the challenge system and what we've seen so far. I
- 13:27Speaker 1: know C. B. Buckner probably doesn't like it, but what
- 13:29Speaker 1: do you think?
- 13:31Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't got to say. I really don't care
- 13:32Speaker 6: what the empires think. Do better or to be more pippy.
- 13:37Speaker 6: That's what the money is for. But these guys kind
- 13:39Speaker 6: of throwing tantrums all the fact that their calls are
- 13:42Speaker 6: getting overturned. You know that's not a strike. What matters
- 13:45Speaker 6: is whether the pictures in the strike zone not what
- 13:47Speaker 6: you thought about it, and just kind of see change
- 13:50Speaker 6: in how we evaluate and what we call a strike
- 13:52Speaker 6: at a ball. I think is one of the best
- 13:53Speaker 6: things going for baseball. So the fact that the umpires
- 13:56Speaker 6: are getting embarrassed.
- 13:58Speaker 5: Do better, it's really how I feel out it.
- 14:00Speaker 6: The fact of the matter is ABS, and I prefer
- 14:03Speaker 6: pull abs. But the challenge system is at least a
- 14:05Speaker 6: half measure. It's going to make the game better because
- 14:07Speaker 6: it's going to even out the fat the fight between
- 14:09Speaker 6: pitchers and hitters, and you know, catchers are getting a
- 14:12Speaker 6: lot of overturnings.
- 14:13Speaker 5: But I want to take a step back.
- 14:14Speaker 6: And just think about what it means when a pitcher
- 14:16Speaker 6: and a catcher can't say we're going to throw this
- 14:18Speaker 6: pitch two and a half inches outside and either the
- 14:21Speaker 6: empire is going to call it a strike or the
- 14:22Speaker 6: hitters is gonna have to flail at it because it
- 14:24Speaker 6: thinks the umpire is going to call it a strike.
- 14:25Speaker 6: For all of the focus on the pitches that are
- 14:27Speaker 6: and I don't know how much baseball you watch this weekend,
- 14:29Speaker 6: but every time the ABS comes up, we'll see this
- 14:32Speaker 6: graphic that shows whether the pitch was, you know, a
- 14:34Speaker 6: quarter inch inside or a quarter inch outside of the
- 14:37Speaker 6: strike zone. But the more important pitches are the ones
- 14:40Speaker 6: two to two and a half inches outside of the
- 14:41Speaker 6: strike zone that are definitely going to be called balls.
- 14:44Speaker 1: Now I agree with yeah, No, I'm quite a bit
- 14:47Speaker 1: and I agree with you. I think one of the
- 14:50Speaker 1: things that and I think we've talked about this before,
- 14:53Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a harder thing to officiate
- 14:56Speaker 1: in sports than balls and strikes at times, especially as
- 14:59Speaker 1: you mentioned you know, like we're talking inchest sometimes an
- 15:01Speaker 1: inch or two, and the balls moving and you know,
- 15:03Speaker 1: coming into a velocity that we, you know, consist of
- 15:06Speaker 1: velocity we haven't seen before. I'm a hockey guy. I
- 15:09Speaker 1: think off sides in hockey, where's the plot, there's the
- 15:12Speaker 1: blue line, where's the skate? I mean instant? And I'm
- 15:14Speaker 1: always amazed. I think NHL line has been get it
- 15:16Speaker 1: right about ninety five percent. It's amazing how often they're
- 15:19Speaker 1: They're right. Hard to do umpires aren't nearly that accurate.
- 15:23Speaker 1: I'm not sure what else in sports is even comparable
- 15:25Speaker 1: to those two things that are kind of so in
- 15:27Speaker 1: a sense black and white. Do you think that this
- 15:30Speaker 1: year will pave the way for ABS because full time ABS,
- 15:35Speaker 1: I should say, because it kind of feels like we're
- 15:37Speaker 1: leading that way.
- 15:39Speaker 6: I don't, and we're we're a week ind of this experiment.
- 15:42Speaker 6: But I do think there are a couple of motivations.
- 15:44Speaker 6: One is that the players don't want full ABS. Some
- 15:47Speaker 6: of that is pictures. You still want to be able
- 15:49Speaker 6: to exploit the system. Some of that is this idea
- 15:52Speaker 6: that framing is something you want to keep in the game,
- 15:54Speaker 6: and you don't want me to go into that discussion today.
- 15:57Speaker 6: But there are a lot of catchers who have their
- 15:59Speaker 6: jobs because they can move their gloves from here to
- 16:01Speaker 6: here and get a strike called. So there's a lot
- 16:04Speaker 6: of invest in people invested in not having full abs.
- 16:08Speaker 6: There's also an idea through testing in the minor leagues
- 16:11Speaker 6: over the last few years that fans really preferred this
- 16:12Speaker 6: this way. There's that moment of looking at the scoreboard
- 16:15Speaker 6: because what we all want to do is a ballpark
- 16:16Speaker 6: is look at more screams and looking at the scoreboard
- 16:18Speaker 6: and go, oh, it's a strike or oh it's a ball.
- 16:20Speaker 6: So I think there's going to be a lot of
- 16:23Speaker 6: inertia once the system is in place, to keep it
- 16:26Speaker 6: in place rather than going to full abs. Now we
- 16:30Speaker 6: don't know what's ahead of us. You know, the two
- 16:33Speaker 6: challenge women, I think eventually will become a problem. You're
- 16:36Speaker 6: going to have a big game decided when a team
- 16:40Speaker 6: doesn't have challenges, and the empire will I forget what
- 16:43Speaker 6: the gentleman was to call the pitch in the WBC,
- 16:45Speaker 6: you will call, you know, end the game on a
- 16:48Speaker 6: third strike that has no business being a third strike,
- 16:50Speaker 6: and the team will have a recourse. I think that's
- 16:53Speaker 6: going to move the needle. I'm certain that happened in
- 16:56Speaker 6: the minor league. But here's the thing, nobody cares or
- 16:59Speaker 6: league games are basically there to develop players and have
- 17:03Speaker 6: a good time at a ballpark. Nobody's sitting there caring
- 17:05Speaker 6: about whether in the next day do you ever remember.
- 17:08Speaker 5: Who won the game? If you went, no, you remember
- 17:09Speaker 5: I had a good time.
- 17:10Speaker 6: But the score of the game was a very small
- 17:12Speaker 6: part of that. In the majors, that's much different. And
- 17:15Speaker 6: when games get decided because of a bad call and
- 17:18Speaker 6: a team being out of challenges, I think that's going
- 17:20Speaker 6: to be We're going to see some change to the system.
- 17:22Speaker 6: And there it's increasing challenges.
- 17:24Speaker 5: Whether it's a.
- 17:25Speaker 6: Free one in the ninth then they don't know what
- 17:26Speaker 6: to look like. But I think that's more likely to
- 17:28Speaker 6: change as opposed to just saying, oh, we're going to
- 17:30Speaker 6: go full adas.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Yeah. I think our afternoon guys were talking about it yesterday.
- 17:34Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up with you, because you know,
- 17:36Speaker 1: they brought up the you know where it was it
- 17:38Speaker 1: to now if you're successfully you keep it and all
- 17:40Speaker 1: that type of thing.
- 17:41Speaker 2: You know.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Hell, the Yankees use it a bunch of times in
- 17:43Speaker 1: a role last night. It's funny because every time they
- 17:45Speaker 1: use it, they never get a hit afterwards, Like it
- 17:47Speaker 1: was like you got you got a couple of extra pitches,
- 17:49Speaker 1: but that was it. But I get, you know, but
- 17:50Speaker 1: they were using it to their advantage, which is good.
- 17:52Speaker 1: You know, if you're wrong, you're wrong, I'm with you.
- 17:55Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's like timeouts in basketball or something.
- 17:57Speaker 1: You get to extra innings, you get another challenge, or
- 17:59Speaker 1: you get to the ninth didning and getnother change. There's
- 18:01Speaker 1: got to be a better way because two doesn't seem
- 18:03Speaker 1: like enough, especially Joe. Honestly, it doesn't take time at all,
- 18:07Speaker 1: Like it's not like it's like now we have changed
- 18:10Speaker 1: this a little bit with the pitch clock, but you know,
- 18:13Speaker 1: it wasn't too long ago, what three four years ago, Joe,
- 18:15Speaker 1: we'd be talking about the fact that, you know, every pitch,
- 18:18Speaker 1: a guy's out of the box, he's readjusting all seventeen
- 18:20Speaker 1: things of protective gear, and it's thirty five forty fifty
- 18:23Speaker 1: seconds between pitches. The abs happens in what ten to
- 18:26Speaker 1: fifteen seconds max.
- 18:28Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.
- 18:28Speaker 6: Appreciate that because when I'm sitting down and writing a call,
- 18:31Speaker 6: and I'm scratching and get out there and adjusting. Come on,
- 18:34Speaker 6: that's just me.
- 18:34Speaker 1: That is me, Not after every sentence, Not after every sentence, Joe.
- 18:38Speaker 6: No, there are days no I will say that. You know,
- 18:42Speaker 6: the system, I think one of the big benefits off them.
- 18:45Speaker 6: And I got a lot of this over the winter.
- 18:47Speaker 6: Oh it's going to slow the game down, and it
- 18:48Speaker 6: really doesn't.
- 18:49Speaker 5: You know, if you have.
- 18:50Speaker 6: Ten challenges in a game, which is not an unreasonable number,
- 18:53Speaker 6: you might be adding two minutes. You know, you're just
- 18:56Speaker 6: not adding a whole lot of time. But it is quick,
- 18:58Speaker 6: it is seamless. I think that's the least of the objection.
- 19:01Speaker 6: And if baseball games were to go from two thirty
- 19:03Speaker 6: five to two forty, but we've eliminated those two strikes
- 19:07Speaker 6: two which is off the zone.
- 19:08Speaker 5: I am more than happy to make that trade off.
- 19:10Speaker 5: I have no issues with that at all.
- 19:12Speaker 6: Time is the least of the problems.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, no, I would I definitely agree. Joe Shean
- 19:15Speaker 1: joining us Joshian Newsletter Joshian dot com. Let's kind of
- 19:19Speaker 1: look around baseball a little bit, and you mentioned Seattle
- 19:21Speaker 1: with the pitching staff has done so far, Yeah, it's
- 19:23Speaker 1: been outstanding all They got through the first rotation for
- 19:27Speaker 1: the first time, all five guys, including Emerson Hancock. I
- 19:30Speaker 1: think they had four out of the five guys had
- 19:32Speaker 1: what we would call the quality starts. I don't know
- 19:34Speaker 1: if Joe likes that stat or not, but those were there.
- 19:36Speaker 1: I think the one guy that didn't was Gilbert opening day.
- 19:39Speaker 1: He went five and a third and probably could have
- 19:41Speaker 1: gone longer, but they did take him out, but he
- 19:44Speaker 1: still was good. That's Seattle rotation, Joe. We've talked about
- 19:48Speaker 1: rotations a lot, especially when guys aren't hitting, and we'll
- 19:51Speaker 1: get to those guys in a second. Does that rotation
- 19:54Speaker 1: look as good as it has for you in the
- 19:56Speaker 1: last couple of years?
- 19:56Speaker 6: Hey, my bay is the shallow I mean ever, say, hey,
- 20:00Speaker 6: talk was great the other day, but we've got a
- 20:01Speaker 6: couple of years of exposure to him now and he's
- 20:04Speaker 6: might be like more of a six or seven. They've
- 20:06Speaker 6: got to get Bryce Miller, who has apparently the oblique
- 20:08Speaker 6: injury some help. Got to get him back on the
- 20:11Speaker 6: now because he looked so good at the end of
- 20:12Speaker 6: the last year in the playoffs. You'd like to see
- 20:13Speaker 6: that guy show up. You know Logan Evans out of
- 20:16Speaker 6: the year. You look at the seventh starter, maybe like
- 20:18Speaker 6: a Cooper Chris Well. I think Mark le Gonzalez. I mean,
- 20:21Speaker 6: it gets really ugly in a heart. There's a prospect
- 20:24Speaker 6: in double A and will say Morales.
- 20:26Speaker 5: He might be.
- 20:27Speaker 6: He's really the only prospect that has any chance or
- 20:29Speaker 6: the reach of the majors this year. So I think
- 20:31Speaker 6: he gets to July, you get to August, you go
- 20:33Speaker 6: into the trade market.
- 20:34Speaker 5: Maybe Phil a dead.
- 20:35Speaker 6: But I would say that the one thing I'm most
- 20:37Speaker 6: worried about with this team is an injury stack in
- 20:40Speaker 6: the rotation that they're just not equipped to deal with.
- 20:43Speaker 6: They have plenty of hitters to go around, but the injury,
- 20:45Speaker 6: but the pitching staffer is a little bit. The starters
- 20:47Speaker 6: anywhere a little bit.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Then he I know, it's the quote unquote, it's early.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Sean Fagins told us that years ago. It's early. Shut up,
- 20:55Speaker 1: leave me alone. It's early. But I got to be
- 20:58Speaker 1: honest with you, old for nine team for Josh Naylor
- 21:00Speaker 1: has my attention, and I'm sure he'll get it going
- 21:03Speaker 1: at some point. But instead of like, okay, I won't
- 21:05Speaker 1: look at the on nineteen because I don't want you
- 21:07Speaker 1: to yell at me, Joe, but can I ask you this,
- 21:09Speaker 1: what is a reasonable expectation for Josh Naylor this year
- 21:11Speaker 1: for an entire season?
- 21:14Speaker 6: This is two seventy five to two eighty hitter, not
- 21:16Speaker 6: a huge walk sky, but enough to you know, three
- 21:17Speaker 6: thirty three forty obp. The home run power is coming
- 21:20Speaker 6: gone with him. He's really more of a doubles type
- 21:22Speaker 6: pinner and obviously that park isn't going to help with that.
- 21:25Speaker 6: I think you're looking at to use the statistical term
- 21:28Speaker 6: w RC plus Wayne runs created plus.
- 21:30Speaker 5: You can find it in fanagraphs.
- 21:32Speaker 6: I think he's a one to ten one fifteen hitter,
- 21:34Speaker 6: ten to fifteen percent above league average.
- 21:38Speaker 5: It's a decent first station. But they're not paying a
- 21:40Speaker 5: ton of money for that.
- 21:41Speaker 6: That deal was five years, but only was eighteen million
- 21:44Speaker 6: a year. So as long as he's a two win player,
- 21:47Speaker 6: he's basically breaking even and a on a team that
- 21:51Speaker 6: doesn't need him to be Freddy Freedman, that doesn't need
- 21:54Speaker 6: him to be Matt Olsen. He's, you know, the third
- 21:57Speaker 6: best hitter on the team, maybe the fourth one that
- 21:59Speaker 6: comes to the end of the year. I think that's
- 22:01Speaker 6: a really good player for them.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like he'll get going. You know, he'll
- 22:05Speaker 1: get going. We're off to another Julio slow start one
- 22:09Speaker 1: for nineteen to start the year with eight strikeouts. That's
- 22:11Speaker 1: death taxes and Julio in April, Jie.
- 22:14Speaker 6: I meant to ask Jess to just pull up some
- 22:16Speaker 6: of the old clips, some of the old tape, so
- 22:18Speaker 6: I would have to just push a button and you
- 22:20Speaker 6: can just run it back from twenty twenty three and
- 22:22Speaker 6: twenty four and twenty five.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Imagine what he would do over one hundred and sixty
- 22:29Speaker 1: two games sometime. But listen, he did have a big
- 22:31Speaker 1: hit the the name.
- 22:32Speaker 6: One of these years, one of the years will have
- 22:34Speaker 6: a big first half and.
- 22:34Speaker 5: He'll go on to win the MVP.
- 22:36Speaker 6: But for right now, Hulorrigaz is going to be fine.
- 22:39Speaker 6: It's better than cats.
- 22:41Speaker 5: I want to see it again and again.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about the team they're seeing this week,
- 22:44Speaker 1: the New York Yankees. They just go and just absolutely
- 22:47Speaker 1: annihilate the Giants in three games. They come here and
- 22:50Speaker 1: they only muster the one run last night. But what
- 22:52Speaker 1: are the Yankees all about this year? Yeah?
- 22:55Speaker 6: I think it's fascinating because I don't know that I've
- 22:56Speaker 6: seen a team other than maybe some recent Philly teams
- 23:00Speaker 6: that's brought back so much of last year's team. Everybody
- 23:04Speaker 6: who played for them in the playoffs last year is
- 23:06Speaker 6: still in the organization now. Anthony voted on the Il
- 23:09Speaker 6: Jackson Jason Vimingez is back in the runners. But they're
- 23:12Speaker 6: running it back completely. They retained Grisham, they resigned Bellinger,
- 23:16Speaker 6: they went out and resigned Paul Goldschmid. It's a crazy
- 23:19Speaker 6: thing now that they did win ninety four games last year.
- 23:21Speaker 6: They had the best trick of the American League. So
- 23:22Speaker 6: you argue, Okay, this is not the.
- 23:24Speaker 5: Worst thing in the world to running back this roster.
- 23:25Speaker 6: It's a very strange approach to things. It's still a
- 23:28Speaker 6: very good team. Certainly some age concerns. You know, Aaron
- 23:31Speaker 6: Judge thirty four and still going strong. Yeah, maybe he's
- 23:35Speaker 6: that guy. Maybe he's Hank Ammon and he's just not
- 23:37Speaker 6: going to decline until his late thirties. But John Corlis
- 23:39Speaker 6: Stanton will play ninety games and he'll slug a lot
- 23:41Speaker 6: in those ninety games. I worried about Grisham and center.
- 23:45Speaker 6: He definitely lost his step last year. I think defensive
- 23:47Speaker 6: Bret this team back. It was a step.
- 23:48Speaker 5: We'll see if they get voting back.
- 23:50Speaker 6: They've got the old Mariner Jose Cavierra currently playing shortstop
- 23:53Speaker 6: to them, They're going to get better if the year
- 23:55Speaker 6: goes on. Colos rendonand should be back in the day
- 23:58Speaker 6: Garrett Cole right around there, June. That rotation is incredibly deep.
- 24:03Speaker 6: You know, they Louise heel Is in the minors start
- 24:05Speaker 6: the year, they've got camp shoulder. It probably gets pumped
- 24:07Speaker 6: eventually when those guys come back. So I think that's
- 24:09Speaker 6: the real strength of this team. Whereas other teams are
- 24:11Speaker 6: going to be looking around for starting pitching. You can
- 24:13Speaker 6: already go about seven or eight.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Pet Joshi and join us Joshian Newsler. You guys rankings
- 24:18Speaker 1: up at Jochian dot com. At no surprise, you get
- 24:21Speaker 1: the Dodgers at number one, and you know, through the
- 24:23Speaker 1: first four games at three and one. But just there's
- 24:27Speaker 1: so much talk about the Dodgers and baseball and can
- 24:29Speaker 1: anybody even hang with them? Joe, you've got them one,
- 24:32Speaker 1: But I know you look at a lot deeper differently
- 24:34Speaker 1: than a lot of people. How good are the Dodgers?
- 24:37Speaker 1: Are they historically good on paper? What is this team?
- 24:40Speaker 1: I mean, are they really true? Like if you're just
- 24:41Speaker 1: setting odds, are they such an overwhelming favorite anybody else
- 24:44Speaker 1: would be a surprise if they were to win the
- 24:46Speaker 1: World Series this year?
- 24:48Speaker 6: No, just because that's how the way baseball is. Because
- 24:50Speaker 6: when you've got to play three best of series against
- 24:53Speaker 6: comparably good teams, you're just.
- 24:55Speaker 5: Never going to be that large a favorite.
- 24:57Speaker 6: If you make the Dodgers a seventy five percent favorite
- 25:00Speaker 6: all their postseason series, they do a little math there
- 25:02Speaker 6: that would make them about a three to one, about
- 25:05Speaker 6: a two to one underdog to actually the World Series.
- 25:07Speaker 6: Just the nature of baseball, and we've see it through
- 25:09Speaker 6: years and years under this format.
- 25:11Speaker 5: The point I want to make about the Dodgers is
- 25:12Speaker 5: that you know they their goal is not to win
- 25:15Speaker 5: one hundred.
- 25:16Speaker 6: And twenty games, because you don't have to anymore. I
- 25:19Speaker 6: would love to see a scenario, you know, he's the
- 25:21Speaker 6: career league, and the championship went to the team with
- 25:24Speaker 6: the best record, and you said to win.
- 25:25Speaker 5: More games than everybody else.
- 25:26Speaker 6: I would love to see what this Dodgers team could
- 25:28Speaker 6: do in that context. But they don't have to, right,
- 25:31Speaker 6: so they're gonna make sure everybody's healthy and arrested and
- 25:34Speaker 6: ready to go on October first, because that's all they
- 25:36Speaker 6: have to do. If that means winning ninety seven games
- 25:38Speaker 6: because the Diamondbacks went ninety six, that means winning ninety
- 25:41Speaker 6: three because the Diamondbacks win ninety two, They're gonna win
- 25:44Speaker 6: just enough games to make sure that they're set to
- 25:47Speaker 6: the playoffs.
- 25:47Speaker 5: And you know, how can you argue with this? The
- 25:49Speaker 5: Dodgers would always go out.
- 25:50Speaker 6: And win one hundred and five games and lose in
- 25:52Speaker 6: the playoffs. Not that those things are connected, but they
- 25:55Speaker 6: would win one hundred and five games and nobody would
- 25:57Speaker 6: care because they lost in the playoffs. But the last
- 25:59Speaker 6: couple of years, this is how they've done it, and
- 26:01Speaker 6: they've won the World Series, and people are a lot
- 26:02Speaker 6: happier with that. So I don't think you can argue
- 26:05Speaker 6: with the approach that they're taking given the Successify.
- 26:07Speaker 1: That, Josh and Jonas before I let you go last
- 26:10Speaker 1: year's ALCS opponent for the Mariners that wins the American
- 26:14Speaker 1: League and goes and plays the Dodgers in the World Series,
- 26:17Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays. You've got him ranked as the
- 26:19Speaker 1: fourteenth team in your team rankings. Whether it be the
- 26:23Speaker 1: Baschette departure or whatever. Walk me through why you think
- 26:26Speaker 1: there's a little slippage in Toronto this year.
- 26:29Speaker 5: A lot of their.
- 26:29Speaker 6: Success last year was Predicatlin guys, particularly the bench, who
- 26:33Speaker 6: had years they've never had before and are unlikely to repeat.
- 26:36Speaker 6: Miles Straw was a two win player, Tyler Hyneman was
- 26:38Speaker 6: a two win player, Ernie Clement was a four win player.
- 26:43Speaker 6: They just had a lot of performances I don't expect
- 26:45Speaker 6: to repeat. George Springer had kind of a dead cat
- 26:47Speaker 6: bout season and I just don't think he can do
- 26:49Speaker 6: another five win season. So kind of just go through
- 26:51Speaker 6: the roster saying who's actually going to be better this year?
- 26:54Speaker 6: And I'm just not seeing it. I love the Dylanc signing.
- 26:56Speaker 6: I think it helps him a lot, but even at that,
- 26:58Speaker 6: it's a relatively thin taking. Cody Poncek got hurt last night.
- 27:01Speaker 6: That was awful to see. The kid they brought back
- 27:03Speaker 6: from the KBO to talk him out in the rotation.
- 27:05Speaker 6: I don't like the bullpen at all, and that Bothen
- 27:08Speaker 6: nearly killed them last year, but I think that's gonna.
- 27:10Speaker 5: Be a problem for them too. So you throw it
- 27:12Speaker 5: all in the mix.
- 27:13Speaker 6: The fact that they play an A league schedule, which
- 27:14Speaker 6: is the most difficult schedule in baseball, and I've got
- 27:17Speaker 6: them missing the playoffs, but in that range where you
- 27:21Speaker 6: know you win some extra to you the one run gage.
- 27:24Speaker 6: Last year they were ten and four in extra endings
- 27:25Speaker 6: and that's why they won the division.
- 27:27Speaker 5: So in regulation they were actually the third best team
- 27:30Speaker 5: in that division.
- 27:31Speaker 6: That matters a lot when I go into I do
- 27:32Speaker 6: my numbers.
- 27:34Speaker 1: I'll wrap it up with this. Manners signed Colt Emerson,
- 27:36Speaker 1: their young shortstop who's not playing the major leagues yet,
- 27:39Speaker 1: but they signed him today to an eight year, ninety
- 27:42Speaker 1: five million dollar extension. Feels like one of those things
- 27:46Speaker 1: that it could be great, maybe a win win for
- 27:50Speaker 1: both sides. The player gets, you know, guaranteed life changing
- 27:53Speaker 1: money the team if he's if the guy ends up
- 27:56Speaker 1: being seventy five percent of what they think he's going
- 27:57Speaker 1: to be, probably a steal in a couple of years.
- 28:01Speaker 1: You saw that today, I'm sure what do you think
- 28:02Speaker 1: when you saw that number?
- 28:04Speaker 6: It is extremely hard for the team to lose on
- 28:06Speaker 6: these deals. And he had the possibility that Colt Emerson
- 28:09Speaker 6: goes to zero. Scott Keenery did John Singleton did. Some
- 28:12Speaker 6: of the early players assigned deals like this, But you know,
- 28:15Speaker 6: even then, the team's only out a fairly small amount
- 28:17Speaker 6: of money all the time, and it's obviously the player
- 28:21Speaker 6: walks up like pretty much a lifetime of security.
- 28:23Speaker 5: You get ninety million dollars at.
- 28:24Speaker 6: Age twenty, and it's very hard to blow that.
- 28:27Speaker 5: So I think it's a good deal for col Emerson.
- 28:30Speaker 6: I think it's a good deal for the Mariners, and
- 28:32Speaker 6: I think it underlined some of the problems we have
- 28:34Speaker 6: in baseball with young players not able to get paid
- 28:38Speaker 6: for their performance until they're five six years into their career.
- 28:42Speaker 6: So that's a larger issue. But as far as I
- 28:44Speaker 6: think for the marriage is a good deal. My thing me,
- 28:46Speaker 6: I was telling you three weeks ago, My problem isn't
- 28:48Speaker 6: paying Colt Emerson. My PLoP problem is playing Colt Emerson. Yeah,
- 28:52Speaker 6: get him up and get him onto the field.
- 28:54Speaker 7: Now.
- 28:55Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean we're watching Donovan struggle at third base,
- 28:57Speaker 1: for example, and I mean there's a lot of the infield.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Is what it is. I would say, as as you
- 29:03Speaker 1: mentioned that, good for Seattle in a sense and good
- 29:06Speaker 1: for the for the young man in a sense. To
- 29:08Speaker 1: get this deal done, because you're right if in baseball
- 29:10Speaker 1: you're waiting till you're twenty eight years old most of
- 29:12Speaker 1: the time to actually get paid, like like you're worth right,
- 29:15Speaker 1: like you get maybe that one contract, and it's just
- 29:17Speaker 1: it's the hardest, it's the hardest of sports to become
- 29:20Speaker 1: a free agent and make free agent money and life
- 29:22Speaker 1: changing money. And so it's good. Hopefully I don't think
- 29:25Speaker 1: it'll turn out Evan White like, but even Evan White
- 29:27Speaker 1: was only twenty four million, and that obviously I forgot
- 29:30Speaker 1: about that one. Yeah, yeah, well, gotta go glove though,
- 29:33Speaker 1: had a go glove during a COVID year, had a
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- 33:01Speaker 1: This is a team the Kraken have not had success against.
- 33:04Speaker 1: Four thirteen and one since they joined the league in
- 33:09Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one to twenty two season for the Crack,
- 33:11Speaker 1: and it's the second worst record against any opponent than
- 33:13Speaker 1: the worst one is actually Dallas. But here's the good news.
- 33:17Speaker 1: This is the glass half full part. The krakens worst
- 33:21Speaker 1: record against an opponent was Tampa Bay until last week
- 33:26Speaker 1: when they got that win, So you never know. They
- 33:29Speaker 1: basically do the Krack can control their own destiny. It's
- 33:31Speaker 1: as simple as that. They've got games in hand on
- 33:34Speaker 1: the teams ahead of them. Six of the final ten
- 33:36Speaker 1: games are against teams currently in a playoff spot, including
- 33:38Speaker 1: Edmonton Tonight. They're on their way for their seventh straight
- 33:41Speaker 1: playoff appearance. Along the way, but rest a shirt. It's
- 33:45Speaker 1: up to Seattle. This isn't where I mean, you're gonna
- 33:47Speaker 1: do scoreboard watching and all that. We'll do it tonight.
- 33:50Speaker 1: You guys will do it on the radio. Mikey'll be
- 33:52Speaker 1: doing it the whole night long. Got a scoreboard update.
- 33:55Speaker 1: I'll be doing the same thing on TV. But if
- 33:58Speaker 1: this team is going to get in the playoffs, they
- 34:00Speaker 1: control their own destiny and they need to get things
- 34:03Speaker 1: going here. In the final ten of the year. As
- 34:05Speaker 1: long as they don't go to a shootout most of
- 34:07Speaker 1: the time they're pretty good. One in six and Shootoutsay
- 34:10Speaker 1: season the Kraken again, a little bit of good news.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Edmonton hasn't won a shoot out this year. Now they're
- 34:15Speaker 1: only had three, but they're ow and three on those shootouts,
- 34:18Speaker 1: say season only and Drycidle, he's still hurt, but other
- 34:20Speaker 1: guys are good. Nujian, Hopkins, Smickdavid et cetera. All there,
- 34:24Speaker 1: So five point thirty pre game tonight, six o'clock drop
- 34:27Speaker 1: of the puck right here in your home for the
- 34:28Speaker 1: krack at nine three point three kjr FM. All right,
- 34:31Speaker 1: let me switch over real quick before we get to
- 34:32Speaker 1: the top of the ur. John Loune's gonna jo us
- 34:34Speaker 1: in just a couple of minutes. We'll check in with
- 34:35Speaker 1: him about all things football. I brought this up earlier.
- 34:38Speaker 1: I know we'll get some good texts in four nine,
- 34:39Speaker 1: four to five to one. In regards to the Hard
- 34:42Speaker 1: Knocks situation and what you want to see, I asked
- 34:45Speaker 1: you first of all, you good with it. I think
- 34:47Speaker 1: every fan is gonna be excited about this, except for
- 34:50Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks jinks. We went through all the teams,
- 34:52Speaker 1: and the fact that at the end of the day,
- 34:54Speaker 1: this has not been a good success story for teams
- 34:57Speaker 1: that participate in hard knocks. In fact, it's been the
- 34:59Speaker 1: opposite of a success story. It's been kind of a
- 35:01Speaker 1: nightmare along the way. A couple teams have won division
- 35:05Speaker 1: titles in the last two decades doing hard knocks Dallas
- 35:08Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. No one has got out of the first round.
- 35:12Speaker 1: Multiple teams have fired their coach midseason. That won't happen
- 35:15Speaker 1: here with Mike McDonald. But you get the point. But
- 35:18Speaker 1: you get the point. It's a little bit of a
- 35:21Speaker 1: risk and I'm kind of going down the road again
- 35:23Speaker 1: of what MJ was saying. I'm not so sure there
- 35:25Speaker 1: was a little give and take. I know there have
- 35:27Speaker 1: been a push for them to do it at some
- 35:31Speaker 1: point during the Pete Carroll era, and there's some reports
- 35:34Speaker 1: out there that the Seahawks turned it down. I don't
- 35:36Speaker 1: know if you can actually turn it down, I don't
- 35:39Speaker 1: I'm not sure none of us really know the inner
- 35:42Speaker 1: workings of the league that well. I don't know if
- 35:44Speaker 1: you can say no. MJ's theory is that the Seahawks
- 35:46Speaker 1: were told they wanted them to play in Australia, and
- 35:49Speaker 1: they said that's not going to happen. We're the champs.
- 35:51Speaker 1: We're going to do what we want to do, and
- 35:53Speaker 1: instead the compromise of Hard Knocks. I like that conspiracy
- 35:56Speaker 1: theory probably not true, but I like it. I think
- 35:59Speaker 1: it's fun to discuss. This team will have some stars
- 36:04Speaker 1: come out. So I don't we asked the question earlier,
- 36:07Speaker 1: We'll ask it again. We'll get the text coming up
- 36:08Speaker 1: bottom of the hour at two thirty. Who or what
- 36:11Speaker 1: do you want to see in Hard Knocks? Who do
- 36:13Speaker 1: you think is going to be the star? What do
- 36:14Speaker 1: you want to see? Who do you think is going
- 36:17Speaker 1: to just jump off the page? I gave you a couple.
- 36:18Speaker 1: I think Zabel, I think Witherspoon like those two guys.
- 36:22Speaker 1: If they focus in on those guys, I think Ernest
- 36:24Speaker 1: Jones could come across as a re likable guy, really
- 36:28Speaker 1: good talker. He's got a great story. It's a great story.
- 36:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 36:31Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of those guys. Rashid Shiheed's
- 36:33Speaker 1: got the million dollar smile. You know he could do it.
- 36:37Speaker 1: I think JSN is just such a mellow dude. I'm
- 36:39Speaker 1: they have to focus in on him. Because of the
- 36:41Speaker 1: year he had last season. You would think highest paid
- 36:44Speaker 1: receiver in the game right now, and All Pro and
- 36:47Speaker 1: all the things he did last year. He's just he's
- 36:51Speaker 1: kind of he's kind of a humble, just mellow dude.
- 36:55Speaker 1: Like doesn't always translate to TV. You kind of want
- 36:57Speaker 1: big and you want loud. I mean the old Seahawks
- 37:00Speaker 1: you could have there would have been a zillion of
- 37:02Speaker 1: those guys to do that with. This team has enough guys.
- 37:05Speaker 1: This teams I would say, probably more likable in a
- 37:07Speaker 1: lot of ways, kind of top to bottom. DeMarcus Lawrence
- 37:09Speaker 1: is a likable guy. Jared Reid a guy I didn't
- 37:12Speaker 1: mention earlier. I think, I think you want to you
- 37:14Speaker 1: want the alpha dog. You want the alpha dog, you
- 37:17Speaker 1: want the dude. Jared reads that guy like Jared reads
- 37:20Speaker 1: that dude. We've we've heard him on I've had him
- 37:22Speaker 1: on my show four or five times in the last year.
- 37:26Speaker 1: And and that guy runs the show. He runs the
- 37:29Speaker 1: locker room. In a lot of ways, you getting, especially
- 37:33Speaker 1: in the hard knocks, where it doesn't matter if you
- 37:34Speaker 1: swear a little bit. That's okay, because Jaren is about
- 37:37Speaker 1: as raw as it gets. We're always nervous sometimes we
- 37:40Speaker 1: have him on live radio. But but I think he'd
- 37:44Speaker 1: be out there too. Actually the other guy was thinking
- 37:46Speaker 1: about too. I mean there's a couple of guys that
- 37:48Speaker 1: Zabel would Zabel would be there. Like Zabel for sure,
- 37:52Speaker 1: I think would be there. But anybody that jumps out
- 37:54Speaker 1: at you that you kind of just want to see.
- 37:56Speaker 4: These guys, I mean you you named all the ones
- 37:59Speaker 4: I think that are going to be real good on
- 38:01Speaker 4: on the on the screen. Yeah, but do you think
- 38:05Speaker 4: that are are Is there a coach in the league
- 38:09Speaker 4: or a GM in the league that's like, yes, we're
- 38:10Speaker 4: gonna be.
- 38:10Speaker 1: On hard Knocks. I don't think anybody wants part. I
- 38:13Speaker 1: think I don't. I don't think anybody wants a part
- 38:15Speaker 1: of it. I mean, it's it's great television. It's fun TV.
- 38:18Speaker 2: A J.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Barn Is another guy by the way, Uh yeah, aj
- 38:22Speaker 1: aj as a treat I think No, I don't think so.
- 38:25Speaker 1: I don't. Just going through the if you missed the
- 38:29Speaker 1: first segment, we went through the list of the last
- 38:31Speaker 1: two decades, and it's largely a disaster for teams to
- 38:35Speaker 1: do hard knocks, like a big time disaster. Coaches like
- 38:40Speaker 1: three times in the last what six years, coaches got
- 38:42Speaker 1: fired mid season or after the season. So yeah, it's
- 38:44Speaker 1: it's I think there's a lot of guys probably want
- 38:47Speaker 1: no part of it, and you don't want the distractions.
- 38:49Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing I don't think. I
- 38:52Speaker 1: think this is the distraction having to deal with it
- 38:55Speaker 1: from an organization standpoint, how we're big that and I think,
- 38:59Speaker 1: like I said, we'll talk to Undo the minut I'm
- 39:00Speaker 1: pretty sure he was around with Atlanta or when the
- 39:03Speaker 1: Raiders did it the last year in Oakland, so we'll
- 39:05Speaker 1: talk to him about that. That plus the great comments
- 39:08Speaker 1: from Kyle Shanahan about not wanting to go to Australia.
- 39:11Speaker 1: God bless you, Kyle Shanahan. We love you for that.
- 39:13Speaker 1: Four nine, four to five one. That is the Tamadage
- 39:16Speaker 1: text line. We'll check those texts out coming up at
- 39:17Speaker 1: two thirty. John lun Joints just coming up next now
- 39:20Speaker 1: from the Star.
- 39:21Speaker 3: Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three point three KJRFM Sports Headlines.
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- 39:28Speaker 1: Choose chill. What's going on? We'll start the Mariners. They're
- 39:33Speaker 1: back in action night second of three against the Yankees.
- 39:35Speaker 1: A win last night against New York cal Ralei walk
- 39:37Speaker 1: off single pan hitting, but well actually was pinching. It
- 39:40Speaker 1: was a second at bat, now that I think of it,
- 39:42Speaker 1: I had the night off from catching though. Get those
- 39:44Speaker 1: single MAM's win. MS win now look for three straight
- 39:48Speaker 1: in game two of their series against the Yankees two nights.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Speaking of the Mariners, Colt Emerson has yet to take
- 39:54Speaker 1: a Major League Baseball at bat, but he just got
- 39:57Speaker 1: a massive extension and a big commitment from the organization
- 40:00Speaker 1: to stay with the team eight years, ninety five million dollars.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Let's go. They must believe in him, he must believe
- 40:06Speaker 1: in them, or he believes in ninety five million, one
- 40:09Speaker 1: way or the other. Probably a win, win all the
- 40:10Speaker 1: way around. Cracking in action tonight taking on the Edmonton Oilers,
- 40:16Speaker 1: game time six pm, five thirty is your pregame show
- 40:21Speaker 1: The Captain Bento Mike Benton will have it for you
- 40:24Speaker 1: out and Everett coming up with the play by play
- 40:26Speaker 1: at six pm. Not quite aim must win, but a
- 40:30Speaker 1: significant game time is running out ten games to go
- 40:35Speaker 1: in the season, four points out of a playoff spot.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Control their own destiny, though they have games in hand,
- 40:41Speaker 1: got to get a win tonight. Ah some new rules
- 40:45Speaker 1: changes in the NFL long and the shortest, pretty simple.
- 40:48Speaker 1: A replay can be initiated more from above this year.
- 40:50Speaker 1: There's also some kickoff rule changes. Are just little tweaks
- 40:53Speaker 1: along the way, and of course the big news NFL
- 40:56Speaker 1: wise locally here the Seahawks in their Super Bowl defense
- 41:01Speaker 1: here are gonna be on hard knocks this season? How
- 41:04Speaker 1: about that? Let's go all right? Two o'clock hour, John lunsandybody.
- 41:10Speaker 3: Welcome to Ian's weekly visit with John Lund Unleashed. He's
- 41:14Speaker 3: a Bay Area media icon who's known Ian for over
- 41:18Speaker 3: twenty five years. But don't let their age change your
- 41:21Speaker 3: opinion of them. John takes you through the Bay Area,
- 41:23Speaker 3: n the NFC West and dupes it out with Ian
- 41:26Speaker 3: over the Niners and the Hawks.
- 41:28Speaker 1: So let's unleash it now with John Lund. Here's Ian Moga.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Are you gonna find out the joys of John Lund
- 41:35Speaker 1: on a Tuesday at two pm? Let me see what
- 41:39Speaker 1: time did I talk to him earlier?
- 41:40Speaker 2: Today?
- 41:41Speaker 7: Uh?
- 41:42Speaker 1: Eleven fourteen am? Just confirming today? Yeah, for sure. Got
- 41:48Speaker 1: a funny story about a call from a Seattle Sunday
- 41:50Speaker 1: got a call from Seattle Sunday doing his national show
- 41:52Speaker 1: from a Mariner security guy. Great, we'll talk to you then. Okay,
- 41:56Speaker 1: calling about six minutes. Got a great guy filling in
- 41:59Speaker 1: today for Jessmon. Don't screw up, don't make it hard
- 42:02Speaker 1: on him, please answer. Three minute warning. Still nothing. He's
- 42:06Speaker 1: also got the red receipts on his messages. Do you
- 42:09Speaker 1: have those? Like I got rid of those cause you know,
- 42:11Speaker 1: you know you got these? So he hasn't he like,
- 42:14Speaker 1: So you know what we're gonna do. This is what
- 42:15Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna call him on the air. Here,
- 42:17Speaker 1: I'll turn them my mic over here, I'll put them
- 42:19Speaker 1: on speaker phone. See if what happens here, See if
- 42:22Speaker 1: he actually answers. He probably won't because he's just a moron,
- 42:26Speaker 1: but we'll try anyway. Okay, I think I think the
- 42:29Speaker 1: guy literally takes a nap.
- 42:30Speaker 6: Let's see.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Here we go, let's see. Now, get the dump button
- 42:35Speaker 1: ready just in case I'm ready. He won't answer two.
- 42:41Speaker 1: So he hasn't hit He hasn't sent it right to voicemail.
- 42:43Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Like he doesn't have a life,
- 42:52Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what he's doing. This is great radio.
- 42:57Speaker 5: By themail, the person you're trying to reach is not available.
- 43:02Speaker 1: I figured that. I figured that part out. When you
- 43:05Speaker 1: have finished recording, you may hang up. Okay, I gonna
- 43:08Speaker 1: hang up. Hey, John lund Ian Farnas ninety three point
- 43:12Speaker 1: three KJRFM in Seattle, Washington. I would say, you're live
- 43:15Speaker 1: on the air, but this is your voicemail. Remember you
- 43:18Speaker 1: were going to talk to us at two o'clock today,
- 43:19Speaker 1: that thing you confirmed at eleven fourteen. Feel free to
- 43:22Speaker 1: give us a shout er. We'll try to call you back. Thanks, buddy.
- 43:25Speaker 1: What an idiot, just a moron. You know we all
- 43:29Speaker 1: have those friends, right we've known for a zillionaires. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 43:32Speaker 1: he's my guy. I don't know how he gets through life.
- 43:35Speaker 1: I'm not sure how he ties his shoes. I'm not
- 43:36Speaker 1: sure what he does along the way. But there we
- 43:38Speaker 1: are with John Linn. Okay, we can pivot a little bit.
- 43:42Speaker 1: We'll wait for him to call back, or maybe just
- 43:44Speaker 1: give another shout here in a second mogan and see
- 43:46Speaker 1: if he's there. I did mention this early with Joe Shean,
- 43:49Speaker 1: And this is where baseball guy gets very upset. Sometimes
- 43:54Speaker 1: we start going down these different precarious roads, and those
- 43:57Speaker 1: roads would include the following. It's early. You can't make
- 44:01Speaker 1: too much of a judgment things like that. Josh Naylor
- 44:05Speaker 1: is over nineteen. Uh, he does have three walks and
- 44:10Speaker 1: only four strikeouts. But the struggle is real. Julio also
- 44:15Speaker 1: a slow start. Those are bad. That's the bad news.
- 44:17Speaker 1: The good news is good news is you're three and two.
- 44:20Speaker 1: That's the good news. Do you have them?
- 44:22Speaker 5: Is he called?
- 44:22Speaker 7: No?
- 44:22Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, I thought you were talking to somebody there.
- 44:24Speaker 1: Still try Okay, that's fine.
- 44:26Speaker 5: Uh.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Is there a concern?
- 44:28Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 44:28Speaker 1: I think the Naylor concern could be legit. I think
- 44:31Speaker 1: that the Julio concern every year. I think Joe Shean
- 44:33Speaker 1: nailed it when he said, imagine if this guy did this,
- 44:36Speaker 1: you know, like, actually had a full season and cranked
- 44:38Speaker 1: it up and actually played in April. It's I think
- 44:44Speaker 1: someone said the other day, and I don't know if
- 44:45Speaker 1: this is true, that the pressure he puts on himself
- 44:49Speaker 1: is overwhelming. Wholio that is. But yet you look at
- 44:53Speaker 1: some of the times he's come through clutch later in
- 44:54Speaker 1: the year and you ask yourself, why why is that
- 44:57Speaker 1: slow start there? Why isather? I don't it can't be
- 45:00Speaker 1: Weather because look at okay, not snap on you, but like,
- 45:04Speaker 1: look at what happened already, Ryan Heal or what's his face?
- 45:09Speaker 1: Luke Rayley. Luke Rayley's already hitting bombs. Cole Young's hitting bombs.
- 45:14Speaker 1: Other guys are hitting bombs? Like how are these guys
- 45:17Speaker 1: doing it? And I'm nitpicking here because I think what
- 45:21Speaker 1: Joe said hit me a little bit cause I hadn't
- 45:24Speaker 1: thought of it. The pitching depth is a little bit scary.
- 45:27Speaker 1: You're probably not going to get through all the whole
- 45:29Speaker 1: year with those four plus five guys with Emerson Hancock.
- 45:33Speaker 1: If you do, great, awesome, fantastic, but it might be
- 45:37Speaker 1: hard to do. It might be hard to do. So
- 45:40Speaker 1: you've got to get your offense going at some point.
- 45:43Speaker 1: Cal coming through last night was a I think that's
- 45:45Speaker 1: like one of those nice little signs to be okay,
- 45:47Speaker 1: all right, I see you, Cal, You've been struggling early,
- 45:49Speaker 1: but you get that hit, You get that big base hit,
- 45:52Speaker 1: and there was no question about it. Ripped it down
- 45:54Speaker 1: the first baseline. But you need more because you can't
- 45:58Speaker 1: rely on Cole Young Young necessarily all season. Brendan Donovan
- 46:02Speaker 1: has been a revelation in terms of hitting amazing. The
- 46:06Speaker 1: defense has been suspect at best. At best, the defense
- 46:12Speaker 1: has been suspect. But seeing kl get that hit, maybe
- 46:16Speaker 1: that gets him going and maybe that was the right move.
- 46:18Speaker 1: A lot of people were criticizing Wilson last night. It's like,
- 46:20Speaker 1: why did he sit out Sunday? Why didn't play him
- 46:23Speaker 1: the first game of the Yankee series? And at the
- 46:24Speaker 1: end of the day he ends up playing. Anyway, comes
- 46:26Speaker 1: in and it has a big hits and hits the
- 46:27Speaker 1: clutch hits at the end. It was fantastic. So I
- 46:30Speaker 1: think all those things come in. But yeah, what Joe
- 46:32Speaker 1: said earlier, this is still a division you can probably
- 46:35Speaker 1: almost run away with. It's the next step with as
- 46:38Speaker 1: good as the AL East is, especially if last years
- 46:40Speaker 1: a LCS team in Toronto isn't going to be nearly
- 46:42Speaker 1: as good as they were. If that's a team that's
- 46:44Speaker 1: going to struggle, if that's a team that's going to
- 46:46Speaker 1: find a way, you know that's not going to be
- 46:48Speaker 1: the same team. You still have the other teams in
- 46:50Speaker 1: the East, Yankees top of the list that are going
- 46:53Speaker 1: to be a problem. Boston could be a problem in
- 46:58Speaker 1: your division. Maybe Texas doesn't feel like Houston will be
- 47:03Speaker 1: a problem along the way. All those things kind of
- 47:05Speaker 1: cruise along, all right, So four nine four five one,
- 47:08Speaker 1: that is to coma dodge text line four nine four
- 47:09Speaker 1: to five one to commadautche text line, don't forget you
- 47:13Speaker 1: can shop to coma dodge. Chrysl gee Rahm at the
- 47:15Speaker 1: corner of thirty eighth in south to come away the
- 47:17Speaker 1: intersection of savings. All right, No Lund, still, no Lund.
- 47:23Speaker 1: We're still waiting on him. Still, no Lend still no.
- 47:26Speaker 1: Andrews came in before I. What did Andrews tell you?
- 47:29Speaker 1: He said he might be a little flaky, probably understatement.
- 47:33Speaker 1: Probably it's probably a good way to look at It's
- 47:36Speaker 1: probably good way to look at one thing I didn't
- 47:38Speaker 1: get to. And I can touch it on this because
- 47:40Speaker 1: I got some friends that are losing their minds over
- 47:42Speaker 1: this one right now. Mark Few was named the Naysmith
- 47:46Speaker 1: College Hall of Fame today, and I don't know if
- 47:47Speaker 1: it was actually official yet, but it's it's out there.
- 47:49Speaker 1: Our guys, nor Lander and Parish have got that story.
- 47:55Speaker 1: One of six inductees and in the Naysmith College Basketball
- 47:58Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, or call in the A. Smith Hall
- 48:00Speaker 1: of Fame, and the Naysmith Hall of Fame, by the way,
- 48:02Speaker 1: isn't just college basketball. It's all basketball. And it's weird
- 48:07Speaker 1: with basketball in the sense that guys get they get
- 48:09Speaker 1: knocked in before they're retired, before they're done. As far
- 48:13Speaker 1: as coaches are concerned, I know some people are already
- 48:17Speaker 1: pissed off about this. How is he in there? Listen.
- 48:21Speaker 1: I am not a fan of the guy at all,
- 48:24Speaker 1: but you have to respect what he has done. The
- 48:27Speaker 1: other class members include Amri Stodommeyer, doc rivers Kandas Parker,
- 48:31Speaker 1: and Alana Della don. But he has been there over
- 48:35Speaker 1: three decades. They have made the basketball. They have made
- 48:38Speaker 1: the tournament every single season he has been there. It's
- 48:41Speaker 1: one of the biggest brands in all of sports. Is
- 48:44Speaker 1: Gonzaga basketball. Forty four league titles, seven to seventy three
- 48:48Speaker 1: and one fifty six record in his career. He's a
- 48:53Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, to final four, our two state national
- 48:56Speaker 1: championship games. I don't think you have to win a
- 48:58Speaker 1: championship to get in. I am a little surprised that
- 49:02Speaker 1: Kelvin Samson isn't in yet. I think that's the one
- 49:05Speaker 1: that That's the only thing I would push back on
- 49:07Speaker 1: with Few, who's younger by a little bit, I think,
- 49:10Speaker 1: like ten years or so, then Kelvin Samson, I would
- 49:13Speaker 1: push back that. I think Kelvin should be there. His
- 49:15Speaker 1: accomplishments are very comparable. He's done it with other programs.
- 49:19Speaker 1: Kelvin also had the blemish on his record of getting
- 49:22Speaker 1: in CUAA reprimands as well along the way, so maybe
- 49:25Speaker 1: that's part of it too. But Mark Few getting into
- 49:28Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame not surprised and painful as this
- 49:31Speaker 1: is to admit, probably well deserved as well for Mark
- 49:36Speaker 1: Fiume in there. And I don't know, does a Mario
- 49:41Speaker 1: Stodamyer scream hall of Fame? I don't. I don't think so.
- 49:45Speaker 1: But that's the easiest of the hall of Fame to
- 49:47Speaker 1: get into. All right, here'll do. We'll take a break.
- 49:49Speaker 1: We'll come back if we can see if we can
- 49:50Speaker 1: track down lined. If not, when we come back, we'll
- 49:53Speaker 1: check into some text and hit on some other topics
- 49:54Speaker 1: of the day. At four nine, four or five one
- 49:56Speaker 1: on the coma Dodge text line asking talking a lot
- 49:58Speaker 1: today about the Hard Knocks situation and what you got
- 50:01Speaker 1: going on there? If you like it, what are you
- 50:03Speaker 1: looking forward to what are your thoughts? Are you worried
- 50:05Speaker 1: about it? Because the Hard Knocks jinks We went through
- 50:07Speaker 1: that earlier four nine four or five one, So we'll
- 50:08Speaker 1: get those texts. We'll check in hopefully with the lines
- 50:11Speaker 1: coming up next nine three point three KFM, some good text.
- 50:20Speaker 1: London is probably already on his way to Australia. Yeah,
- 50:23Speaker 1: maybe could be. Maybe I wanted our buddy Nick Allen
- 50:33Speaker 1: shout out to Nick, huge listener, sent a text and
- 50:35Speaker 1: I like this text from me because I think there
- 50:39Speaker 1: is a little something here you could do with with
- 50:45Speaker 1: this opportunity to be front and center and at the
- 50:50Speaker 1: focal point of the football and sports you know, in
- 50:53Speaker 1: August when really, I mean hard Knocks can be a
- 50:56Speaker 1: big deal. Nick writes, as follows in and I wouldn't
- 50:59Speaker 1: mind learning some more about the new version of the Seahawks,
- 51:00Speaker 1: and hard Knock should be fun. But I want to
- 51:02Speaker 1: see is a massive All Caps push devote Mike Holmgan
- 51:05Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame from the vMac practice, shirts, hats, conversations, whatever. Thanks.
- 51:10Speaker 1: That's Nick Allen the Hall of Fame, And I hadn't
- 51:15Speaker 1: thought of it for a while. With Mike, I think
- 51:18Speaker 1: with the way that Belichick got handled this season, that
- 51:21Speaker 1: we're still two years. I mean, I assume Belichick's got
- 51:24Speaker 1: to get in next year, has to despite all the
- 51:27Speaker 1: craziness he's got going on in his personal life and
- 51:29Speaker 1: everything else. You would assume he's in next season or
- 51:34Speaker 1: next this next go round, a year from now. But
- 51:37Speaker 1: with Mike, yeah, you probably could see something like that.
- 51:40Speaker 1: And then I'm thinking to myself as I see the
- 51:42Speaker 1: pushback on Mark feu getting to the Hall of Fame
- 51:44Speaker 1: when I brought that story up from people out here.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Every hall of Fame is different, like every one of
- 51:51Speaker 1: the Hall of Fames is different in terms of how
- 51:53Speaker 1: hard it is to get into. I think we all believe.
- 51:56Speaker 1: I think it's pretty safe to say that the Natesmith
- 51:58Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is the easiest of all of them
- 52:01Speaker 1: to get into. Now it also includes not just pros
- 52:03Speaker 1: but college and not just men but women. As seeing
- 52:07Speaker 1: this year there's two women going in, and obviously college
- 52:11Speaker 1: coach and few and everything else. College, Nay Smith feels easy.
- 52:17Speaker 1: NFL feels maybe the most difficult and challenging to get into,
- 52:22Speaker 1: especially with the rules for coaches and builders and administrators
- 52:26Speaker 1: and owners of the non player side, hockey is I
- 52:30Speaker 1: would say hockey is right in the middle. I think,
- 52:34Speaker 1: for the most part, the guys that get into the
- 52:36Speaker 1: Hockey Hall of Fame and women men and women, because
- 52:38Speaker 1: women get in out too as well. I saw that
- 52:40Speaker 1: this year with Jason Bottrell, the GM for the Crack
- 52:44Speaker 1: and his sister Jennifer got in and well deserved. One
- 52:47Speaker 1: of the most decorated international players ever. But basketball is
- 52:51Speaker 1: the easiest. Football is so hard, Yeah, lun says, give
- 52:55Speaker 1: him a call, by the way, we'll throw them on there. Yeah,
- 52:58Speaker 1: we'll get him along. So I do want to talk
- 53:00Speaker 1: about hard knocks. But yeah, I think, yeah, the home
- 53:04Speaker 1: run push would be cool. The home run push would
- 53:07Speaker 1: be cool. Let's see, we're talking about Hulio this year.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Curious what Edgar would say about the temperature issue. Yeah, Jim,
- 53:14Speaker 1: I don't think it bothered Edgar. Nothing new here for Julio.
- 53:17Speaker 1: This is your five or six. I wouldn't pay him
- 53:19Speaker 1: until June for several year. Softy Away says, I shouldn't
- 53:21Speaker 1: talk about this. We shouldn't talk about the season until
- 53:23Speaker 1: like two or three months in. Maybe we shouldn't talk
- 53:25Speaker 1: about Hulio or just he shouldn't play until two or
- 53:27Speaker 1: three months in. Just send him to Tacoma, Nashville wherever,
- 53:30Speaker 1: maybe find some warm weather for him, whatever that might be,
- 53:33Speaker 1: so we can we can do that as well. So
- 53:36Speaker 1: is he answering? He just said, call, I'm sorry, we apologize.
- 53:40Speaker 1: I'm apologizing on be half a onne because he's an idiot. Anyway,
- 53:45Speaker 1: let's see he's ready, he's ready, let's get to him.
- 53:47Speaker 1: Pop him up there. Listen, what are you doing?
- 53:50Speaker 5: Like?
- 53:50Speaker 1: What are you doing? Yeah?
- 53:52Speaker 2: This is on me.
- 53:53Speaker 1: I mean there's just well that's apparent of the.
- 53:57Speaker 2: Something happened, and it's just there's no excuse.
- 54:00Speaker 1: There's no feartimes, there's no fear, there is none whatsoever.
- 54:04Speaker 1: I want to get to a couple of things I
- 54:05Speaker 1: want to get to and I normally I would have
- 54:06Speaker 1: just said screwed. I don't want to have them on today,
- 54:08Speaker 1: like I'm pissed on, but I'm not. There's two things
- 54:10Speaker 1: I want to hit on. One your phone call from
- 54:12Speaker 1: on your show from a guy from Seattle. Before I
- 54:15Speaker 1: get to that, Yeah, before I get to that. Yeah,
- 54:17Speaker 1: were you doing Raiders radio when they were on Hard Knocks?
- 54:21Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 54:22Speaker 1: I was, okay, So what can people here expect with
- 54:25Speaker 1: the Seahawks being on hard knocks.
- 54:29Speaker 2: Well, you got to go back. Remember that was Gruden's
- 54:32Speaker 2: first year and it was it was a dumpster fire.
- 54:35Speaker 7: It was Antonio Brown and they just had so many
- 54:37Speaker 7: problems on that team and Gruden was, you know, knock
- 54:41Speaker 7: if you're with me and.
- 54:42Speaker 2: All that kind of like they just he was trying
- 54:44Speaker 2: to re establish things.
- 54:45Speaker 7: Antonio Brown came in in a hot air balloon. Like
- 54:48Speaker 7: it was such a dumpster fire. The Seahawks won't be
- 54:52Speaker 7: like that, you know what I mean, Like when it
- 54:54Speaker 7: was the Raiders and they have camp and NAPA and
- 54:57Speaker 7: guys all over the place, and and Mark Davis is
- 55:00Speaker 7: the worst owner in sports. I mean, he's the His
- 55:02Speaker 7: haircut is the equivalent of the type of owner he is.
- 55:05Speaker 7: I mean, it's just it's the worst. He's the worst
- 55:07Speaker 7: in sports. And so they just had this dumpster fire
- 55:10Speaker 7: going on, and you know, was enjoyable because everything was
- 55:12Speaker 7: about Gruden because everything about the team kind of stunk.
- 55:15Speaker 2: And then Antonio Brown had that whole situation.
- 55:18Speaker 1: My son was actually on.
- 55:19Speaker 7: Hard knocks because Antonio Brown showed up at a d
- 55:21Speaker 7: La Salle High school game, which Delasal.
- 55:23Speaker 1: You know a Momi Tumor and tons.
- 55:26Speaker 2: Of guys who have gone to that. Murray Jones drew
- 55:28Speaker 2: like it's.
- 55:28Speaker 7: This huge school and he just shows up out of
- 55:31Speaker 7: nowhere and the HBO crew is with them. I mean,
- 55:34Speaker 7: he just made the whole thing a spectacle. Mike McDonald's
- 55:37Speaker 7: just too smart for that. It's that's not gonna happen
- 55:39Speaker 7: with the CX.
- 55:40Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I've talked to a number
- 55:42Speaker 2: of coaches I.
- 55:42Speaker 1: Know you have too, that have done it, and.
- 55:44Speaker 7: It's really that not that big of a distraction because
- 55:46Speaker 7: you know what a lot of teams are doing, well,
- 55:47Speaker 7: not a lot of teams. All teams are doing now.
- 55:49Speaker 7: They have they have a TV crew all the time,
- 55:52Speaker 7: they have stammers in there all the time.
- 55:53Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's not it's not like it once was
- 55:56Speaker 2: where it's this big distraction.
- 55:57Speaker 7: In the age of social media and the age of information,
- 56:00Speaker 7: there's maybe not to this extent, but they're used to
- 56:03Speaker 7: having all that stuff around.
- 56:04Speaker 2: It's not that big of a distraction, honestly. Yeah.
- 56:06Speaker 1: But seahawks dot Com and my friend, our former colleague
- 56:10Speaker 1: at Fox thirteen Erica running around with the camera during
- 56:13Speaker 1: camp or practices. It's that's so like you know, the
- 56:17Speaker 1: team websites, that stuff's massively watered down. This isn't watered
- 56:20Speaker 1: down like this. This will not be water I just
- 56:23Speaker 1: went through. Like the problem is the history, Like if
- 56:26Speaker 1: you go back, Bill's are on it.
- 56:28Speaker 2: This year.
- 56:28Speaker 1: They fired McDermott at the end of the year, Bears
- 56:31Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, midway through the season, Ibra Flues fired
- 56:35Speaker 1: Jets in twenty twenty three, four snaps into the season.
- 56:38Speaker 1: The focal point of Hard Knocks was Aaron Rodgers Achilles
- 56:41Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Detroit starts one in seven. In twenty
- 56:44Speaker 1: twenty two, they missed the playoffs by game, but they
- 56:46Speaker 1: started one and six, Cowboys twelve and five and twenty
- 56:50Speaker 1: twenty one John but ended up losing in the wild
- 56:54Speaker 1: card round to your friends the forty nine ers. Yeah,
- 56:57Speaker 1: I remember Raiders are seven and nine. That was a
- 56:59Speaker 1: dumb fire. I mean, there's a hard Knocks jinks, buddy,
- 57:02Speaker 1: don't lie. There's a hard hard knocks jinks here.
- 57:04Speaker 2: Okay, here's here's if if if you go down that road,
- 57:08Speaker 2: I think what you what you do is because this
- 57:10Speaker 2: is how they do that. You're in TV.
- 57:11Speaker 1: You know all this stuff. I'm not telling you anything.
- 57:13Speaker 1: You don't know.
- 57:14Speaker 7: What they're gonna do is they're going to focus on
- 57:16Speaker 7: particular players who are who supposedly I mean, Mike McDonald
- 57:20Speaker 7: is obviously gonna be guys that they're going to focus on.
- 57:22Speaker 7: Sam Donold is going to be a guy that they
- 57:23Speaker 7: focus on. JSN is going to be a guy they
- 57:25Speaker 7: focus on. Defensively, you would know better than me what
- 57:28Speaker 7: DeMarcus Lawrence or Ernest Jones or somebody gonna be.
- 57:30Speaker 1: Witherspoon will be the guys who.
- 57:34Speaker 7: Have the best personalities. What they tend to do is
- 57:36Speaker 7: they'll go like four or five different guys and it's
- 57:38Speaker 7: their show. So the guys that you know, Gray's Zabel
- 57:42Speaker 7: is not going to be really distracted by hard knocks
- 57:45Speaker 7: because they're just not you know, not that he doesn't
- 57:47Speaker 7: have a personality. I know that he does, But I'm
- 57:49Speaker 7: just making a point of what they tend to do
- 57:51Speaker 7: is it's like it's like any.
- 57:52Speaker 1: Show, they find the four or five.
- 57:54Speaker 2: Or one or two people that are the most interesting
- 57:56Speaker 2: and they just.
- 57:56Speaker 7: Hammer them over and over and over again. So as
- 58:00Speaker 7: long as that handful of players can handle that kind.
- 58:03Speaker 2: Of stuff, and then you just hit Weatherspoon.
- 58:05Speaker 7: Like in Witherspoon's case, I'm sure that he'll.
- 58:07Speaker 2: Actually eat it up. Then I that I think it
- 58:09Speaker 2: can be good.
- 58:10Speaker 7: But I mean what you just said, it's kind of
- 58:12Speaker 7: just indisputable to say. But I just my experience at
- 58:15Speaker 7: the Raiders, and again it wasn't a good one. It
- 58:17Speaker 7: was grood in Antonio Brown until Brown, you know, got
- 58:19Speaker 7: kicked out of camp.
- 58:20Speaker 1: But it's generally those guys.
- 58:22Speaker 2: I mean, Derek Carr was boring.
- 58:23Speaker 7: He's a Bible he's a sorry, don't mean to off anybody,
- 58:26Speaker 7: but he's a Bible.
- 58:27Speaker 1: Banger, and he's not going out.
- 58:28Speaker 2: He's not having fun and he's not you know, he's
- 58:30Speaker 2: not he's not fun to fall around. So you know
- 58:34Speaker 2: it's not necessary.
- 58:34Speaker 7: I mean, if Darnald's boring, we're gonna move right out Darnold,
- 58:37Speaker 7: even if he's a quarterback.
- 58:38Speaker 1: I uh, I forgot guys. Yeah, you guys were at NAPA, right,
- 58:41Speaker 1: so it wasn't even in oh yeah, So that's.
- 58:43Speaker 7: Which made it more fun.
- 58:45Speaker 2: Actually, you know, they went out to places and they.
- 58:48Speaker 7: You know, and they had those personalities on that team.
- 58:51Speaker 7: I mean I'd covered that team in NAPA for a
- 58:52Speaker 7: long time and and you know, they got a lot
- 58:54Speaker 7: of personalities on that team, but it's you know, they
- 58:57Speaker 7: went out to NAPA and they went to Wineries, and
- 58:58Speaker 7: you know, so was part of it, but it was
- 59:01Speaker 7: Antonio Brand and John Gruden that was That was the
- 59:03Speaker 7: thrust of the whole thing.
- 59:05Speaker 1: I love your guy, Kyle Shanahan. For people who didn't
- 59:08Speaker 1: see the quote, I'll read the quote here. Kyle shan
- 59:12Speaker 1: He's like, honestly, he's the first guy to be honest
- 59:15Speaker 1: about this stuff. Like he really like everyone else, everyone
- 59:18Speaker 1: else is trying to play this NFL company line and
- 59:21Speaker 1: protect the shield and all this stuff. He finally said
- 59:24Speaker 1: what a lot of people have been thinking. For people
- 59:25Speaker 1: who missed it at the NFL meetings, Kyle Shanahan says,
- 59:28Speaker 1: in regards to the forty nine ers taking on the
- 59:30Speaker 1: Rams week one in Melbourne, Australia, quote, I don't see
- 59:35Speaker 1: any pro It's cool for the league to play global lee.
- 59:37Speaker 1: I think that's awesome, but as far as the team's
- 59:39Speaker 1: doing it, no, there's not much benefit to it. Sometimes
- 59:42Speaker 1: it's nice to get a bye week after, but it
- 59:44Speaker 1: doesn't happen in week one. Wow.
- 59:46Speaker 7: Well, and here's good for the issue. First of all,
- 59:49Speaker 7: I've been telling you that for years. The first interview
- 59:51Speaker 7: he ever did in San Francisco, we did it on
- 59:54Speaker 7: our show. And the first thing he said to us
- 59:56Speaker 7: because I asked him about the super Bowl because he.
- 59:58Speaker 2: Had lost the prior week obviously, Yeah, and he said, he.
- 1:00:03Speaker 7: Kind of looked at me and gave me a grin,
- 1:00:04Speaker 7: and he goes, I don't.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: Know how to be anything but honest.
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: So here's the deal.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: And he talked about Devonte Freeman missing a block. I mean,
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: he's just totally.
- 1:00:11Speaker 7: Throwing under the bus and like, well, if Devonte Freeman
- 1:00:13Speaker 7: makes the block, Matt Ryan gets the pass off and
- 1:00:15Speaker 7: we win the super Bowl. I mean, he's just that's
- 1:00:17Speaker 7: just the only way he knows how to be. He's
- 1:00:19Speaker 7: very straightforward and honest. He tells everybody you can tell
- 1:00:22Speaker 7: flat out when he's lying. He's the worst liar ever.
- 1:00:25Speaker 7: So he just decided John Lynch is gonna be the
- 1:00:28Speaker 7: good cup. He's going to be the bad cop, and
- 1:00:29Speaker 7: he really doesn't care. I mean, do you realize this
- 1:00:32Speaker 7: is gonna be Kyle Shanaan's tenth year with the forty
- 1:00:34Speaker 7: nine ers. I mean, he's been around for a long.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: Time and Jeduar's not firing him.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: He's a great coach.
- 1:00:39Speaker 7: By the time he hung up the phone, if he
- 1:00:41Speaker 7: did get fired, he'd have another job.
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: So he doesn't care. And so he's just gonna say
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: what it is.
- 1:00:45Speaker 7: And here's the worst party in is that Now they're
- 1:00:47Speaker 7: talking about I know you know this, but they're talking
- 1:00:50Speaker 7: about Game eighteen.
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: They're talking about two buys. But they're also saying every
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: team is gonna have to play an international game.
- 1:00:56Speaker 7: Can you imagine like every year forty nine ers this
- 1:00:59Speaker 7: year are going from Australia to Mexico City.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: Oh they're playing two and wait, they're playing two this year?
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 1:01:06Speaker 6: Yeah, they're playing in Australia and Mexico City.
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: And we know this being on the West Coast, we
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: have the worst schedule ever. Yes, ogo Midwest East ten
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: am starts like the West Coast has it that anyway?
- 1:01:19Speaker 7: And now they're playing not again. No one's crying in Seattle,
- 1:01:22Speaker 7: I understand that, but yeah, they have two international games.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Are they think in Mexico City is that far?
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: But it's it is. It is pretty ridiculous.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: So they're losing one home game then, and I guess
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: the Rams will be, So would Melbourne be a Rams?
- 1:01:34Speaker 7: I guess those eight yea, I guessco City one is
- 1:01:36Speaker 7: a is a Niners one and the Rams.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: Is the Melbourne.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: Yeah, who are they playing in Mexico City? I don't
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: even know yet.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: I don't think they have said yet. But yeah, he
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: hates it.
- 1:01:47Speaker 7: I mean he flied out says that all the time,
- 1:01:49Speaker 7: like he understands. I mean, they're trying to make it
- 1:01:51Speaker 7: a global game. It's never going to be the NBA
- 1:01:53Speaker 7: or or baseball or anything because those those sports are
- 1:01:56Speaker 7: playing in other countries. Football is not playing.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: And I know you no, I've talked about that.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: You covered the international stuff.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: Right, No, I didn't go. I didn't go to the
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: two that we sent Aaron both times.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: Okay to Germany or something.
- 1:02:09Speaker 7: But yeah, what happens is I told you the story,
- 1:02:12Speaker 7: and I'll just do it really really quick. I was
- 1:02:14Speaker 7: at one of the London games and I walked into
- 1:02:16Speaker 7: a Nike store where there was tons of fans and.
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: They're buying up all the jerseys and everything, and I
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: was going, do you know.
- 1:02:20Speaker 7: That is do you like American football? And they're like no,
- 1:02:23Speaker 7: I'm like, do you know that there's a game this weekend. No,
- 1:02:26Speaker 7: like the NFL is completely over selling the fact that
- 1:02:30Speaker 7: everybody just loves American football. And I remember pulling up
- 1:02:34Speaker 7: to in a you know, on a media bus to
- 1:02:37Speaker 7: UH to Wembley Stadium, and it was this was.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: The coolest part. It was like a Pope pourri.
- 1:02:41Speaker 7: It was like a rainbow shirt butt of all these
- 1:02:43Speaker 7: different jerseys of every team. The Dolphins are playing the Raiders.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: You wouldn't have known it. I mean it was Joe NAMA's.
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: Jersey and it was a you know what I mean,
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: it was a larger jersey like all.
- 1:02:52Speaker 7: These They just there's there's a hardcore handful of fans
- 1:02:57Speaker 7: who like the NFL and they go to the games
- 1:02:59Speaker 7: and some of them have favorite teams everything like that.
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: I mean, there is.
- 1:03:02Speaker 7: I'm not saying it's not and it hasn't helped or
- 1:03:04Speaker 7: anything like that, but it hasn't. It's not to the
- 1:03:07Speaker 7: level that the NFL is trying to sell us.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: It's well, we found out last week that the krack
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: And are opening not opening, actually they're doing it in November.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: So the crack And are playing two games next year
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: in Finland against Caroline. I believe it is is a
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Carolina or Nashville Carolina and subastional Ahill. Anyway, they're playing there.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: They're playing in Finland. But it makes sense because combined
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: the two teams have like four or five guys from
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: Finland right on their teams. Like hockey's international, like the
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: NBA could play or seas because it's international, like the
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: NFL for some reason, thinks it's international. You're the five
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: hundred pound guerilla in our country, there's no doubt about that.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: But you're not, you know, I mean, the international thing
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: is just kind of a it's not even to the
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: level of of I would say, it's not the level
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: of what like Premier League soccer or all those things
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: are over here in our country where there's a ton
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: of fans. But I would be more upset too. And
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: I think this is where it was kind of stupid.
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: If you are going to play the games, then don't
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: do it against arrival, like like, don't take because we
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: don't have a lot of rivalries on the West Coast.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: We just don't. Like it's not like the old day.
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: I mean, like it's not like the NFC AFC North
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: or or things like that, or the NFC East. We
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: just don't have those, but we do. Like, I think
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: it's safe to say that the three top teams in
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: this division are pretty good rivals with each other, San
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: Francisco and Seattle and the Rams, right, Like those are
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: those are games that you should not take away from
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: one of the home fan bases, period, end of story.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: In fact, taken away from the home drives.
- 1:04:37Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I buy season tickets, right, and I spend
- 1:04:40Speaker 7: all this money and then you know, again we're not
- 1:04:42Speaker 7: crying for the Rams that held.
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: Sean McVay, but you know, you buy season tickets and
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: you don't get a forty nine Ers game this year? Like,
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: what are you kidding me? So, I mean I got
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: to sit through the Colts or I gotta sit through
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: the you know whatever, you know, the Browns game. But
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: you're going to take the I mean, come on, I'm
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: with you.
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: They do a lot of things right. Obviously, they do
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: a lot of things right.
- 1:05:03Speaker 7: But man, what they're in this situation and if they
- 1:05:06Speaker 7: go to eighteen games and they're gonna give two boys
- 1:05:09Speaker 7: you got to have, but every team's gonna have to.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: Play an international game. Yeah, that's insane.
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: It's not insane, all right, tell me the story about
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: the settle. So you're doing Westwood one National Show one
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: Sunday Saturday. What were you doing?
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was.
- 1:05:23Speaker 7: This was a Sunday And here's what's crazy about it.
- 1:05:26Speaker 7: So we're getting a good amount of calls from Seattle
- 1:05:30Speaker 7: to Coma, all these places there really really cool.
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: And so when I see those calls, I make sure
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: I get to them because first thing out of their
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: mouth is I listened to you on on kJ R,
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: A team for down. I'm like, really cool. So they're
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: making the correlation.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: It's really cool.
- 1:05:43Speaker 7: But this guy calls up and he's a security guard
- 1:05:47Speaker 7: at Mariner Games, right, and he's like, I don't remember
- 1:05:50Speaker 7: what we were even talking about.
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: You know me, I got a d D. I can't
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: remember how that's pretty obvious today.
- 1:05:57Speaker 7: This guy calls up and he says they're doing in
- 1:06:00Speaker 7: some giveaway or something.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: And this guy come There was a couple of weird things.
- 1:06:03Speaker 7: Number one, there was a guy who came through with
- 1:06:06Speaker 7: the stroller and he had the stroller like covered up,
- 1:06:09Speaker 7: and he said, we have to see what's in the stroller.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: And because the lights are.
- 1:06:13Speaker 7: Going on, you know, the the alarms are going off, right,
- 1:06:17Speaker 7: this guy.
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: There was no baby in the stroller.
- 1:06:20Speaker 7: The guy had a gun in the stroller and it
- 1:06:23Speaker 7: was covered up, and he thought he could get it
- 1:06:25Speaker 7: through if he put it in a stroller.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: I'm not even can you this.
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: This happened like I don't know.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: I think it was a second game of the year
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: or something. A gun.
- 1:06:34Speaker 7: A guy had a gun in a stroller and was
- 1:06:37Speaker 7: covered and then he argued with the guy and said,
- 1:06:40Speaker 7: it's my right.
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: I have a concealed weapon permit.
- 1:06:42Speaker 7: And the guy was saying to him, no, you cannot
- 1:06:45Speaker 7: come into a Major League Baseball game.
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: Read your ticket. You cannot come into a Midge League
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: Baseball game a gun in a stroller. You can't have
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: a gun at the game. And the guy just would
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: not have that, and he had to end up kicking.
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: They had to get the carry and kick the guy
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: out of the.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: Arrest him. What was he going to do with the
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: gun in the Manner game?
- 1:07:05Speaker 7: I don't know, but he had This guy said he
- 1:07:08Speaker 7: was he was a security guy at a Mariner game.
- 1:07:11Speaker 7: And I got another story for you too from the
- 1:07:12Speaker 7: same guy. But he said they said, yeah, the guy
- 1:07:15Speaker 7: would cooperate and everything, and so they had to get
- 1:07:18Speaker 7: police over and they had to boot the guy to
- 1:07:19Speaker 7: the game. He tried to walk in with a stroller
- 1:07:22Speaker 7: with a blanket over.
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: That's that's kind of scary like that that could have
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: been like it, you know what, whoever that security guy
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: is to give that dude a raise, right, like good.
- 1:07:33Speaker 7: Jobs, Like we got to see that, you know, because well,
- 1:07:35Speaker 7: the thing was going off, like it was beeping, and
- 1:07:37Speaker 7: he's like, is I gotta know something on the baby
- 1:07:40Speaker 7: or something.
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: He's like, well, let me see the baby and the
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: guy he slipped the blanket. He's like, dude, there's a
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: gun under this blanket. What do you do?
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: Idiot? And that's and that's why we all, you know,
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: we all complained. When we all complain about going through
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: the metal detector, right, there's a good reason why because
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: I don't know about I don't know about you. I
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: don't need some dude that is out the pan pounding
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: beers and he's got a gun on him in a
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: game and he gets pissed off of somebody like we
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: don't need.
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: That, right thing.
- 1:08:07Speaker 5: It's crazy.
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: He shout out to the guy, security guy, get that
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: guy a raise, man, Martin.
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: I'm not kiddyet. And then here's the second one. So
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: then he said the same thing.
- 1:08:16Speaker 7: You know, he's at the security He says, this happens
- 1:08:17Speaker 7: all the time. This woman walks through and larger gal
- 1:08:21Speaker 7: which is fine, you know whatever, And she comes through
- 1:08:25Speaker 7: and she's beeping too, and he's like, you know, they
- 1:08:27Speaker 7: have female comes over and gives them out, and she's
- 1:08:31Speaker 7: trying to tell the guy that it's her metal bar
- 1:08:33Speaker 7: bra straps. He's like, look, that's not going to set
- 1:08:35Speaker 7: the alarm off. It's not metal bar straps. The woman
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: pulls out the you know, they bring the woman security
- 1:08:42Speaker 7: guard over. She has two gigantic flasks in her bra,
- 1:08:47Speaker 7: like flask in her bra, and the guy said, hey,
- 1:08:51Speaker 7: i'll give you a tip for next time. They're metal,
- 1:08:54Speaker 7: like you're going through a metal detector. And the guy's like,
- 1:08:57Speaker 7: you could buy plastic ones, you know, and we probably
- 1:08:59Speaker 7: wouldn't even know, but you got two metal ones in there.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: And the female security guard pulls out two giant metal
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: flasks out of this woman's bra.
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: So that's what you got going, I mean, just absolute dipsticks.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I can't wait to talk to you.
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: This is unbelievable.
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: Trying to think what my flat I don't. I think
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: I have one metal flask and a couple that maybe
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: I don't know if they're metal.
- 1:09:26Speaker 7: I got boot flasks, so the plastic ones. Yeah, the
- 1:09:30Speaker 7: metal flask is nice. If like, you know, you're going out,
- 1:09:33Speaker 7: I don't know, hunting, ski and whatever. But if you're
- 1:09:35Speaker 7: going to a ball game, golf, yeah, golf being perfect,
- 1:09:38Speaker 7: but you're going you know you're going any kind of
- 1:09:40Speaker 7: a ball game.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: I got news for you, Seattle. Metal is not going
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: to go through the metal detector.
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: You just reminded me something I gotta get. I start, well,
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: it's going to rain, so I don't know if we're
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: going to play tomorrow. We start a weekly or weekly
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: golf league tomorrow, a little nine hole after work golf league. Oh,
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta fill out. I got a great
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: new flask. I gotta fill that thing up with birdie juice.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: The rare event that I get a birdie at some point,
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: maybe it'll happen next month, who knows. But you won't
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: need that.
- 1:10:05Speaker 7: I feel bad, Yeah, you won't need that. I'm going
- 1:10:10Speaker 7: to send you a new flask. I'm gonna send you here.
- 1:10:12Speaker 7: I'm gonna send you a nice flash that you could
- 1:10:13Speaker 7: bring in and you don't need.
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: It to get into a game. John, what do I say,
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: John London leashed on it or something?
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a few extra.
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: Lord god.
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: A sorry, I'm sorry.
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: You're lucky.
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: Had a good conversation anyway.
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: But you're you're lucky because Jess wasn't here today. She
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: would be yelling at you right now.
- 1:10:38Speaker 7: I know well, and I do have about ninety two
- 1:10:40Speaker 7: mess calls, but Jess would would like to slide to
- 1:10:43Speaker 7: my ouse.
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: She'd be like on the way here. And and Andrews
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: is doing our and is doing our afternoon show. He's
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: got to deal with softy and so he I think
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: he might have called a texted you as well, but
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: he's got to deal with that action. So that's yeah,
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: that's a ton of fun. So and so, my my
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: guy Travis is here and he's got like you'll love this.
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you behind the curtain for a second,
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: all right. So Travis is Travis. Travis is a man
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: of many talents. One of those talents is that he
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: understands video because he used to be the guy that
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: ran We used to have I don't know if you
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: know Softy used to be on Comcast Sports Net here
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: in Seattle.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: I remember that.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where Diana Russini got her start, is on
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: the Softy Show doing updates. But anyway, Travis used to
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: run all that stuff when he did it with when
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: Comcast Sports Net was still in business. He's setting up
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: we may at kJ R at some point in some
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: day we may be on video as well as radio.
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: Like, I know you're not on YouTube.
- 1:11:37Speaker 7: We can't see your pretty face and you're and your
- 1:11:39Speaker 7: nice beard and your your aging graying hair and sut.
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: We can't see that, not yet, but someday we will tomorrow.
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: So so, so that's Travis is working on all that
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: stuff right now. And so he's got enough, and he's
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: got to do the cracking game tonight. He's got to
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: produce that. And you're and you on this is where
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you feel guilty. You're the guy stressing
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: him out with all he's got. He's got purple sheet.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: Rich Morre's coming in his office into the controllers at
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: least four times a day. They're looking at video. And
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: by the way, nobody wants to see that video of me.
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: I'm like, it's it's I.
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: Oh, yes, they do. You know you're crazy? Can I
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: tell you something?
- 1:12:14Speaker 7: I know we're probably running late. So all the guys
- 1:12:17Speaker 7: on Westwood One, they they're all doing video and I
- 1:12:19Speaker 7: was like, if you want me to do it, I'll
- 1:12:21Speaker 7: do it. But I haven't really pressed the point. And
- 1:12:23Speaker 7: it got to the point where people were requesting it.
- 1:12:25Speaker 7: And you know, me, I look like the elephant man.
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: It's like, you know, are you a human big?
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: I'm not attractive.
- 1:12:31Speaker 7: No, I know, I am literally the definition of radio
- 1:12:34Speaker 7: face like no, and people like so they made me
- 1:12:37Speaker 7: do it, so I'm I'm even doing that.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: I did a YouTube, you know, I've done the YouTube show.
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: We had video at KMDR, like you have to and
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: I don't.
- 1:12:44Speaker 5: I don't.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm not ripping anybody. Why I say this. I
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: don't get it. Like I wouldn't sit there, but people do.
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: They sit in these shap rooms and they love talk
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: and they they love it.
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: They love the YouTube. Yeah, they love the youtubees. I
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: don't know. It's a to me, it's a it's an
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: audio medium. But listen, I I don't have a say.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: So they're going to put us on TV at some
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: point well on YouTube at some point. So once Travis
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: figures that out and no hurry, Trav, trust me, no hurry.
- 1:13:08Speaker 7: By the way, you know who's going to be really
- 1:13:09Speaker 7: popular because this is how it works. I have a
- 1:13:11Speaker 7: female producer on the weekends, and when they show her
- 1:13:14Speaker 7: like it pops through the room justin.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: Ashley will be popular. And then and they'll say, why
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: are the rest of you guys on any kind of video?
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen. So they're going to see
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: how goofy Softy actually looks like, which is really funny,
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: Like it's that part that's all of us. I'm more
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: concerned with. Is it going to be like can they
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: see us in breaks? Travel't? I think we talked about that. Okay,
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: that can't help.
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: But here's the problem. Here becomes the problem. We have it.
- 1:13:43Speaker 7: So we have engineers and they'll tell you they put
- 1:13:46Speaker 7: a little green dot where you're supposed to sit, and
- 1:13:48Speaker 7: if you deviate from that, they'll say in your ear, yeah,
- 1:13:51Speaker 7: the engineer is saying that you need to It's just
- 1:13:53Speaker 7: like TV, like you can't lean back, you can't.
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: Do this, you can't do that, like all this now
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: it's like, you know, and then they tell you. Every
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: Ones like because I wear hats and stuff.
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: All the time, I'm trust me.
- 1:14:03Speaker 7: I'm like some days it's like you maybe you know,
- 1:14:07Speaker 7: I know this sounds funny, but I might go to
- 1:14:08Speaker 7: the gym once twice a year, and so you know,
- 1:14:11Speaker 7: it's like, you know, I'm throwing a hat or something
- 1:14:12Speaker 7: and they'll be like, oh, come on, you know you
- 1:14:15Speaker 7: got a shower, you gotta look good.
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, this is radio. The whole point
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: of radio is just come casually walking in, you know.
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. Like the video, that's the joke here.
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: Like the guy before me, MJ gives me a hard time,
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: it's all you got. You got cracking game? Must be
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: a game tonight because I like, today, I've got I'm
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: TV ready. So today we fine, Yeah, tomorrow not so much.
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: Got golf hack, That's what I'm saying.
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: And you got at least look decent, Like even if.
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: You wear a hat, you gotta look decent. No, I
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: don't know if that's truck because we have we have
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: a couple of music stations here, and those guys dressed
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: like crap, Like those guys look like yeah, they look
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: and I don't even know what they're wearing half the time.
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: But I will say this, like on the other stations,
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: like who's most popular? Like everyone loves Nina, right, Like
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: everyone loves Nina. Oh yeah, everyone loves Victoria right. So like, yeah,
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: it's I think it's a bad idea.
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: Because women don't sit around and watch radio shows.
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: They don't know what A woman doesn't go out of
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: the house unless they're they you know, Oh that's shower,
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: makeup and all that stuff, right, yeah, what they do
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: after something. It's stylish. Good. Yeah, we look like slots.
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: All right?
- 1:15:20Speaker 7: Are you on?
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: Are you on WESTOO one this weekend?
- 1:15:23Speaker 2: Yeah? Saturday and Sunday as always, And I've been someone
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: in on the morning show too, But that's way too early.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: That's three to six. That must be why you're napping
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: and you missed our original calls Z.
- 1:15:32Speaker 7: Yeah all right, I know that was stupid, but yeah,
- 1:15:34Speaker 7: what am my own this weekend? Uh five the five
- 1:15:38Speaker 7: to nine pm Pacific time on Saturday and Sunday Serious
- 1:15:42Speaker 7: x three seventy five west ruin sports dot com. It's
- 1:15:45Speaker 7: also and as I say, hundreds of radio stations across the.
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: Country, including nine, nine fifty on the am dial for
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: people want to bother him this weekend.
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, we're getting lots of calls from.
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: Seattle security guards.
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: Perspective like this show. Yeah, well yeah, I need him
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: to call it again.
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: Well i'll see that. How about if how would your gun.
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: Into a marriner's game? What would happen to a woman
- 1:16:05Speaker 2: trying to bring your giant class?
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: What would happen if you showed up twenty minutes late
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: for your Westwood one show?
- 1:16:10Speaker 5: Oh?
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: I need lots of trouble. Okay, trying to treat us
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: with that. Never happened again. Never gonna have one o'clock
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: next or two o'clock next to Tuesday. We'll try to
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: talk to you again. In the meantime, I might tune
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: in on Sunday just to give you a hard time.
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: All right, I need to have you on just for
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: the act of it. I don't even know what we
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: would talk about.
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing Sunday? Why you know what
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: I'm doing Sunday When you call me, guess we're all drinking, drinking,
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: just a golf course. Call me there, talk to about
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: see by? That's John Lone'll come back. Well, uh no, no,
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: Crosstalks offt he's busy, so we're gonna do check a
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: couple of texts, a ton of them. We'll do that
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: next