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Virginia Game Preview · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast on a drinks.
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  Giving Wednesday I'm Curtis with Wilson.
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  I'm Brian seagull. How you doing tonight, buddy?
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  Different venue for me. Definitely different venue.
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  Braun has traveled East. To record tonight's episode.
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  How's the trip down? Not bad, man.
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  Not bad. It was a little bit of a little
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  bit traffic heavy on the way. Way in front of we did have a
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  couple big accidents actually that we got went past a couple
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  folks in the trees and the ditch on the side of 64.
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  So won't make me crazy thankfully, we weren't involved
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  in any of that. So here we got here and not
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  record time but You know, we did two and a half hours which
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  Thanksgiving weekend, not too shabby, so no issues.
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  With the tunnels tunnels were bad.
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  It was everything kind of before that.
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  Yeah, very nice man. Very nice.
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  By the way, I joke about drinks giving, if everybody has it,
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  listen to the radio, or the Twitter or the Facebook today,
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  is the single largest drinking day in America.
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  Yep. I'm going with the normal here.
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  I'm not going anything high level.
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  Although some people, you know, do take it over on Thanksgiving
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  Eve. I've had many of those nights
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  man. I remember some of the some of
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  the wildest drinking nights I've ever had were coming back from
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  from college to home, for Thanksgiving and heading over to
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  the World of Sports and throwing down for a while, and then head
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  over to somebody else's house after that and throwing down
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  some more. Or well that and remember before
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  that became thing. Remember Paradise Club.
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  Yeah, you can you can you can walk.
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  That was always fun, but you get to see everyone.
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  We're older. Now obviously, you know, we're
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  prepping Brian's down it in-laws.
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  I'm here at the house. We'll all be cooking tomorrow
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  not suffering from hangovers. But um, you know, Brian it's
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  been a It's been a fun week has been a short week, happy Friday.
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  Yeah, we made it work. Yeah, you know what?
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  Let's jump. We got a lot of stuff to go
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  through. Obviously it's hate week, V8
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  week, Commonwealth Clash concert by Smithfield.
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  If you didn't buy your bacon, or your hand or your sausage, go
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  get some before Saturday. Yeah, let's jump.
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  Brian. Let's go to j.c.
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  Presser. We got to hear clips of it.
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  Got to see some other things tweeted.
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  Let's talk about. Essentially he basically Ali
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  said they have made as a Monday. No decision on the starter at
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  quarterback for the Hokies. Yeah.
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  Is that shock you that it took one game.
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  I don't know if it's shocks me but it doesn't surprise me that
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  they're keeping her options open and this could be more of a
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  we're going to see some of what we saw in the first half last
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  week with Braxton out there. Some Connor out there some and
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  you might just be something Where Connor gets the first
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  series reps over over Braxton the rice Versa, and then we just
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  kind of see them, you know, go with what's working, switch it
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  up. Could be, that Braixen Still
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  Still banged up there. Making a decision, whether they
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  want to put him out there and it could just be, they liked enough
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  of what they saw from Connor where they feel like that's that
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  gives them the better chance to win.
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  I don't necessarily know if I agree.
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  With that sentiment. But that's kind of where we are.
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  I mean Braixen hasn't played well enough where he's forcing
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  that issue, but I feel like Braxton overall gives us more
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  elements of the offense to play with even if Connor does a
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  couple things better than Braxton those.
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  Yeah definitely does a couple things better.
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  You mentioned on Sunday, he pushes the ball downfield
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  better, he's obviously got a bigger arm than Braxton
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  obviously, some accuracy issues there.
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  But the other pieces, if it's the banged-up piece, I mean the
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  only upside is uva's future defense, which we'll talk about
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  later is now going to have to take into account to potential
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  quarterback, starting not one. Yep.
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  Um, and again Connor have urged what six yards a carry last week
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  he had we went what 24 130, yeah, you know, the bigger issue
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  I have with him and depending on what the offensive line.
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  Like he, like there's where Braxton is to me, when you get
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  him back there and he feels the pressure, he scrambles and goes
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  Connors almost like, tap tap tap the ball, like like nah, dude.
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  If it starts breaking down, you've got the legs look for a
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  hole and just run. Yeah.
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  That's the biggest thing I see is, and I think that's, that's
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  just coming with, like, comfort in the pocket understanding
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  where the reeds are understanding where Where where
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  the timing is? I think that's just something
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  weird. Connor just doesn't have that
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  yet. I think Braxton sometimes.
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  Comes out of that too quick. Yeah, but Connors not kind of
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  doesn't have a feel of wind to come out of it yet.
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  So I think that's probably the biggest thing that he's dealing
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  with. And overall, I think that's
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  going to be the bigger issue with if you roll out there with
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  Connor is that you don't have the relationship with the
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  receivers and you don't have that timing in the backfield and
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  things like that that Braxton, He has kind of worked all
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  season, kind of getting People with.
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  Yep. And that's the biggest
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  difference is just reps to me and but also the thing you
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  always talk about, he's more comfortable running while he's
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  had apparently the guy in his ear all year.
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  One read go. Yeah.
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  Where you know, it's second nature to him right now.
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  So yes, you all just saw me pick up my remote and click.
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  I am waiting the Hokies hoop game versus Memphis to start
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  here and obviously, the first game ran over something else.
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  JC mentioned and I wonder if it'll do this.
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  You talk about going back and forth.
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  He mentioned, they rode the hot hand.
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  I mean kind of plate okay. I would call it hot.
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  It's not like he went out there and took us on three consecutive
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  scoring drives but maybe that's what we see in the first quarter
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  and they both get a couple series and whoever is really
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  moving the ball. That's who we stick with.
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  Yeah, that means there were some places where Connor probably
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  didn't give us the first down then Braxton would have gotten
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  us but there were a couple plays where you know between his legs
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  and his arm, he probably got his first downs that Braxton
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  probably wouldn't have wouldn't have thrown or wouldn't have got
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  to. I think, in particular on that
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  fourth and six pass out there to Lofton, I don't know if that's a
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  completion or leave it. I don't know if I don't know if
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  it's even thrown, if it's Braxton.
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  Yeah, so that's kind of the difference.
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  You get there sometimes. Not knowing things, you take a
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  little bit more calculated risk with the football.
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  You don't, you don't have that comfort.
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  So I don't know if this is a scared money, don't make money
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  type type game or what? Well, in this game, in general
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  scared money, don't make money, but I tell you, what could make
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  is three guys who were mentioned in the pressure being data gay,
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  Trey Turner, like the Smith Brock often.
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  Let me ask you. Brian of these three guys who
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  absolutely has to play Saturday to.
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  Give us the best. Best chance to win.
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  It's got to betray, but it's very close with him.
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  And let's see the Smith. I think it's pretty close there.
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  I think we're doing okay with without having Brock in there.
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  Johnny stepped up pretty well and Well, he doesn't necessarily
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  give us the the raw upside, that bra can give us on a certain
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  play. He does do a better job of
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  consistency and I think that's I think that's the, the trade-off
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  there is that I think at this point in the season, the season
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  you'll take the consistency over the high-end ability just
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  because you know you already missing potentially other pieces
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  so I think either Smith or Trey being out hurts us more.
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  Hopefully we get trade back, love to see you.
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  Him be able to finish out his career with the Hokies maybe
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  announcement this week, that he's heading to the NFL and give
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  that a go, so congrats to him and hope he does.
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  Well, looking forward to seeing what, what he can do with
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  offseason and the combine and all that stuff.
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  So, yep. Now if you recall during the
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  presser JC kind of mentioned Trey, could have been good to go
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  in the second half, but he was held out for precautionary.
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  Let's see. This did not start it all.
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  So hopefully that whole doubtless to give him back for
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  this week. And again, we ran the ball fine
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  past Pro was not as good. But, you know, that's, I think,
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  we know, we're more of a running team, so I think maybe that's
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  why they held him out. Some little very interesting I
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  found in that interview was in after kind of putting the pieces
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  together, maybe it makes sense of why we didn't have a good
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  pass rush with the defensive line.
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  JC discussed how he really missed being able to make
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  adjustments with his defensive line group.
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  If you be at all during his opening, presser he mentioned,
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  he worked with the ends. Bill work.
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  With the D tackles, I'm assuming do.
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  The game, it's the same way. I got the D in group.
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  I got the D tackles we come together.
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  Here's the adjustment, we're making you coach, your guys, how
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  big is that? Because it's probably a ga or
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  pill trying to do everybody. How difficult is that for
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  someone like Bill like this year?
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  It's like I focus just on the G tackles.
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  How difficult is that now that your whole group?
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  It's not super difficult, but it definitely is an extra element
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  that you got to think about. Because when you're on the
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  sidelines, you're having to To kind of think about the the
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  entire line and then how you're going to communicate that, and
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  then you're going to communicate different things to the
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  different different position groups there because it's going
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  to be a different mode of adjustment in the in the game as
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  you go along. So it definitely something added
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  there but you are kind of evaluating as you're going
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  along. Anyway, you just have a little
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  bit more to evaluate and then a little bit more to discuss with
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  the team. Yep.
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  So, that's why I asked you about it.
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  You know, hopefully a second week.
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  It's better to get the adjustments quicker.
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  Let's also talk about something up else would just influent a at
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  ever discussed how JC price talked about that on sidekick.
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  Nah, nah. Definitely.
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  I don't, I don't think that would have been a move.
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  The Fuente would have went with, to begin with.
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  And then, Roll the dice said he asked his defense to bail them
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  out. If it didn't work, asked it.
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  But then he said it, he said it in the press kit.
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  Yeah, which is, which is, just so appealing, right?
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  It's refreshing. It is, it's like, oh my gosh,
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  like, that's exactly! Probably what any coach would
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  have said, how many coaches would walk in there on Monday
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  and say, yeah, I told the defense, what we were gonna do
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  and I told her if I screwed it up, Y'all got to help them, feel
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  me out, but it wasn't. He works on the defensive side
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  of the ball up again with he's got that type of relationship
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  with them where he's thinking, we're rolling the dice here.
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  Pick my pick up my slack if I'm wrong.
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  Yep. Yep.
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  Another big thing. Probably not done by adjusting
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  for Wednesday was bringing in Nikki Giovanni to speak with the
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  team this week. A treasure for jigna Tech, you
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  know, And it's why we continue to say in its you know, the
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  white Vic said it this morning, we've set it on this podcast,
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  Jacey needs to be retained regardless.
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  Yeah. Because for a new coach, if you
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  need someone in maybe if we think about what happened with
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  the one day when he came in, he had blood and everything but
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  wasn't a graduate attack yet but had been coaching their here
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  close to 30 years. When it happened.
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  So he was at Virginia Tech but I think having a Virginia Tech
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  man. Yep.
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  Just get that coach in and literally almost tour guide him,
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  right? Show him around showing places.
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  Make them think talking about the history talk about what
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  happened here. Talk about yep.
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  What these places mean to you and how you can use those to
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  sell two recruits to sell, donors to sell to.
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  I mean, sell the program to everybody.
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  It's very true and is one, likely.
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  The next head coach is not going to be a hokie grad or a former
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  hockey player or anything like that.
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  And that's the This is not likely going to be, I don't
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  think there's anybody out there right now.
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  That is has that potential. Two.
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  To sorry. I'm trying to get the game on
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  here folks and I'm the ESPN app is screwing with me, but you
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  just need some in the way. It seems 20 never bought into
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  the culture, and I think he showed respect to Beamer, but I
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  don't think he ever like understood what the town means
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  to anyone. Anyone that is a fan.
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  If you're a fan of Virginia Tech, the town of Blacksburg,
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  you should have memories in that town.
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  We do, if you're a fan you've been there.
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  You should have memories at certain places.
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  I know. You know, for me it's probably
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  between tops and Fox Ridge and a couple other places.
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  I knew, I know where yours is, dude.
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  Yep. Yep, the old trick to get in
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  there that was talk to you and then, you know, I wonder if
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  that's still the case. I don't know if they changed the
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  technology or updated the doors or anything since then it's
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  true. And back in 2019, when we went
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  down, you were like tempted, like should I go to try them?
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  Like, do with 36 years old? No, we don't need to do this.
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  Yeah. Like, I come off wrong.
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  Like come on. I had enough of it, was enough
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  of a faux pas when I was saying these things and like my early
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  twenties, it's true. But you know, he just the next
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  coach needs that and I think having someone like JC because
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  especially I think with JC, maybe it's even more.
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  So So JC who had been away from home for close to 20 years?
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  Comes back and he relives, those pieces and his wife is a hokey
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  Hall of Famer his wife play here.
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  They met here it's that guy. You need to know everything.
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  Yeah Brian let's hit this real quick before we go on and go
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  into these other topics. Sure.
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  Daryl. Bailey hits the portal defensive
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  lineman switch is too offensive. Lineman obviously this is
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  probably gonna be the first of many. any any any shocker there
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  or you know is it one of those things where you almost want to
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  say hey man can you just wait and see who the coach is going
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  to be? I mean, this is the like further
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  attrition from that 2020 class, right?
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  we're at 55 and then really the best five, not that was a great
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  class at least in terms of rankings, but You got, you got
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  five gone from it and it's five of five of the best six in terms
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  of this ranking. So who's the only one left now?
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  Who was it? Things, one of the running
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  backs, Jamie Hampton Galen in Caitlin Hampton has not been
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  with the team for a while. So, yeah.
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  I mean, I get it, I get if you're going to do it, but to
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  me, I wouldn't tell every kid who's there.
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  Wait, wait to see who the new coaches?
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  Yeah. Because this could easily
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  easily, someone could come in that recruited you or you had a
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  good relationship with in the next thing, you know, you're in
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  the portal and you're going to have to walk back into their
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  office and say I'd like to come back and then it becomes a whole
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  different circumstance, right? Like.
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  Well, do you didn't even know I was coming here and you just
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  left. What type of mentality are you
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  in? Yeah, I think that's the big
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  thing because if we look at it, you know, we more than likely
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  going to have an answer on this thing, by the middle of
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  December. Nobody's getting a jump on this
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  situation, but I'm doing it now. In terms of the like portal and
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  everything else. I mean if you're getting it done
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  before late signing day, I think you're fine because you kind of
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  position yourself to be. Kind of that either completing a
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  class or kind of be that filler. Once a 12 classes, you know,
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  officially finalized, I know some people want to get a jump
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  and get enrolled for the winter going in the spring, but I think
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  you can still do that with a early December portal visit
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  versus having to wait until later.
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  So that's kind of where I think the situation is.
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  It's going to be interesting to see if he hangs around or if he
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  kind of already has an idea of where he's going so that's why
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  you went ahead and did it. Ya know, if that's the case, if
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  he already knows where he wants to go, like we mentioned when we
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  had our portal episode, you know?
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  I'm just in a few months ago. Recruit.
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  He's not stopping. Yeah, you know it's I mean you
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  want to make a bet that the second Justin for Wednesday was
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  fired. Somebody who liked Daryl Bailey.
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  From when he was being recruited, didn't text him.
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  Hey, sorry about, you know Soulfood got fired know.
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  You really loved him as your coach, hey, you know, you know
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  how much we liked you just keep us in mind.
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  Hit me up. There's no because the NCAA such
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  a f up. There's no sort of guidelines on
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  that, right? No, you can't, you can't say,
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  well, you can't recruit like you can still have the
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  relationships. So, again, the end of the NCAA
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  screw-up, which is never a shop, essentially, is its it's liked a
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  seasoned right in the NBA, the NFL and any other Major League
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  sport Yeah, it's interesting. And you know I imagine that
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  there's some some relationship still there that, you know, it's
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  just a couple years back at this point and you know Bailey was a
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  guy that was asked to switch positions because of a need
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  real. Only saw action in one game
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  against UNC. I think that was kind of a when
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  they were still mixing up the line to see what type of
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  rotation that was going to look like so, You know, I get it from
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  his perspective perspective if he knows what he wants to do and
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  he prefers that defensive line which that may be the case that
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  that might be one of the things that's that was holding this
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  back here as well. Was the you know is asked to
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  switch switch switch positions, his coaches and 30 more likely
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  going to lose most of his offensive staff might be a good
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  chance to kind of hit the reset button for him.
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  Yep. And he's still a freshman.
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  And he hasn't played so he's gonna walk in elsewhere at the
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  one-time transfer rule as a freshman he just gonna have to
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  sit. So you know it is what it is
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  we're going to see more we'll talk about them as it come
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  around. Yep.
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  Something mean you wanted to hit before this game just to kind of
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  put a reset on. Hey I finally got the game on.
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  We're down 10 7 5 minutes in. Yep.
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  All right, job openings. Now one guy that had been
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  mentioned with numerous Folks numerous you potentially song
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  Going the SEC Hugh freeze gets extended at Liberty.
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  Yeah, I'm a little shocked by that that he would take such an
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  extension. So it's either a.
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  I wonder if he's just been told by schools you got another three
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  to four years before anybody's going to touch you.
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  You've been there a couple you're doing the Remake tour,
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  you're still showing you can coach but nobody wants to deal
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  with that potential backlash. Yeah, I think that's some of it.
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  I think it just is You know, one of those things where you get a
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  reputation and I think they want to see a little bit larger
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  sample size and Liberty obviously is completely content
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  with having having him. So they made a play to go ahead
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  and keep him in house, push them over 4 million a year and, you
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  know, I don't think anybody else is ready to give him much more
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  than that, to draw him away from Liberty.
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  So, unless he's getting a opportunity that he can't turn
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  down, Then that kind of puts him riding Liberty a little bit
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  longer until the that opportunity comes as way.
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  Yep, I agree with you on that 100%.
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  I think he's just going to wait, it and I think he's been told
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  because I think a team like LSU would have taken a risk on him
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  in a heartbeat. He came in that division, he
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  beat Saban, he hadn't competitive.
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  He had good recruiting classes for various reasons, but I think
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  he's been told you've still got a few more years before you're
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  allowed back in the water. X.
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  Yeah, I ran, let's run through these schools and let's just
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  kind of say Are we competing with them?
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  Or we not competing with them. So I'm gonna throw the first one
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  here because the smokes all over the place the Florida Gators
• 23:50
  competing now competing. Absolutely competing probably on
• 23:54
  this list the school we're competing most directly for at
• 23:59
  what we consider higher end. Evaluations that we're aiming
• 24:05
  for in terms of our targets, whereas there, that's probably
• 24:07
  their first or second tier targets as well.
• 24:12
  So, yeah, they're probably at the top of the list in terms of
• 24:16
  who we were. We were fighting for for the
• 24:19
  next hit coach. I agree.
• 24:21
  I think something you said the other day.
• 24:23
  I think our first choice is probably their third I really, I
• 24:30
  really believe that I really you said it the other day and I'm
• 24:33
  going to, I'm going to back what you said.
• 24:35
  You kind of said he's up there but he's not there one.
• 24:39
  Because I think what you made the point of the other day, if
• 24:43
  he was there one and he really wanted to go there, it already
• 24:46
  be done. Yeah, that's kind of what I was
• 24:49
  thinking. If he was there one, if we, if
• 24:53
  we had, if we if if our one was his one was there one.
• 24:57
  Then you'd already be a done deal.
• 25:00
  Not saying that we can't compete with the same targets that
• 25:03
  Florida is targeting. But I mean, when you look at the
• 25:08
  Sources. When you look at the facilities,
• 25:13
  I mean, there's a lot of things that stack up.
• 25:15
  The only thing that Really doesn't stack up is that it's a
• 25:19
  little bit harder to win in that, in that division.
• 25:23
  There you go. Agreed, 100%.
• 25:25
  Alright. Next LSU, competing not
• 25:27
  competing competing but not as strenuously as Florida.
• 25:33
  I feel like LSU, oftentimes has specific guys in mind while I
• 25:41
  feel like a guy like, Napier is definitely on the radar just
• 25:43
  because he has been recruiting that state.
• 25:46
  Yep, I think they're looking for.
• 25:48
  Big Fish higher. So I don't necessarily think
• 25:52
  that like more likely. They're trying to lure a Jimbo
• 25:55
  Fisher, tight coach away from a school like am before.
• 25:59
  They're targeting an in-state G5 coach.
• 26:03
  Like Napier, I'm going to say this, I don't even think.
• 26:07
  I think they might be reaching out to Jimbo that might be their
• 26:09
  first choices. I'll give you my straight up who
• 26:12
  I think they're going to get It's going to be Dave Aranda,
• 26:16
  you think. So the coach of Baylor, the
• 26:19
  defensive coordinator, when they won the national title, it was
• 26:23
  there for multiple years. Had multiple good defense has
• 26:26
  very familiar with the school. I think he's gone.
• 26:31
  I think he's there, I think they called about Jimbo.
• 26:34
  I think they called about some other guys who aren't really
• 26:37
  their current situations and I think he's going to be like
• 26:40
  they're three, I think Napier's probably there five or six?
• 26:45
  But I think it's going to be a random unless as we talk about
• 26:49
  the next one. Yep.
• 26:52
  Let's talk to USC University of Southern California, PT, not
• 26:57
  competing. I'm not competing me either.
• 27:02
  I think jealous, you might be competing with them.
• 27:04
  For a random Brandon is a California guy and if you take
• 27:10
  the lay of the land, do you go back to to the go back home at a
• 27:19
  program that essentially needs a little bit of a rebuild that's
• 27:24
  going to be interesting but we're going to talk about this
• 27:28
  in. Uncle Dave.
• 27:28
  I think we've got to mention it right here.
• 27:31
  James Franklin going there. Yep.
• 27:35
  And we're going to I think that's the Big Thing.
• 27:37
  Once James Franklin, got extended that really kind of
• 27:40
  changed the game yet. I really kind of changed the
• 27:44
  game in terms of who, USC was going to be targeting.
• 27:47
  And I think that took a lot of the other guys that we were
• 27:50
  potentially worried about from the chipper down, perspective
• 27:53
  out of play. yeah, can ask this and we're going to talk about a
• 27:57
  few more schools but looks we will talk about the triple down
• 28:00
  Penn State's now off the table and people are we, it was kind
• 28:04
  of a shocker of, that's a long extension, your Penn State In
• 28:10
  the last five years you've been to three new year, six bowls.
• 28:14
  You want a Big Ten title, you beat, Ohio State, you beat
• 28:17
  Michigan. Yep.
• 28:20
  You can say what you will, you say what you will.
• 28:24
  And I will go to defense, was Justin Fuente in the last five
• 28:26
  years. It's just the one thing in the
• 28:27
  last five years had won, the ACC 123 New Year's bowls, would we
• 28:31
  extend him 10 years? Probably could say, well, he's
• 28:34
  got dry personally, I don't give a damn about his personality.
• 28:39
  He He is winning and He is wanting to a point to where he's
• 28:42
  going to big games all the time. Yeah.
• 28:44
  It's like that understanding their Niche right there.
• 28:48
  Understanding we're going to have probably once every five
• 28:51
  years where the team is together.
• 28:52
  We can make a wrong and we're happy with that.
• 28:58
  Well, they recruit well enough where, you know, they're always
• 29:01
  going to be competitive even if they're not necessarily winning
• 29:05
  the division, right? Yeah, absolutely.
• 29:09
  Always competitive even this year in kind of a Down year for
• 29:13
  them and if they beat Michigan State they're going to have a
• 29:15
  twins. Probably go to a solid Bowl.
• 29:17
  Have a chance to win nine. Yeah, couple years before that
• 29:20
  winning 10 and 11 games. I think whoever the ad in that
• 29:25
  base understands this is where we need to be.
• 29:30
  Now one program that had been like that for close to 20 years
• 29:35
  because the next one we'll talk about TCU.
• 29:38
  And I'll say, I think we're competing with them but they did
• 29:41
  get the jump and haven't really made a move yet.
• 29:46
  And then the story broke that Sonny Dykes is likely there.
• 29:49
  Does that shock you? It doesn't shock me.
• 29:52
  It's a good fit overall for them.
• 29:54
  It's kind of a, I mean, Sonny Dykes in the Texas area is
• 29:59
  essentially kind of doing the same things that some of the
• 30:03
  other guys, we talked about heavily in the last last show
• 30:06
  are doing closer to our Geographic footprint, so that
• 30:10
  kind of makes sense for them. Yeah, and because of that, that
• 30:15
  takes somebody else out of Play, That's not directly competing.
• 30:19
  No, I'll ask this. If you're the SMU a d is for one
• 30:23
  day, you're one or is what happened at Virginia Tech has
• 30:27
  SMU since you. Let's just kind of go with, they
• 30:30
  had Chad Morris had good success.
• 30:32
  Dykes has picked up kind of work.
• 30:33
  Chad left off and had good success.
• 30:36
  Do you turn? To Justin Fuente.
• 30:41
  I think 20 is in that discussion.
• 30:43
  I don't think he's necessarily there one but I think he's
• 30:45
  probably there two or three. All right, makes sense.
• 30:49
  Obviously the last two are the two schools out, Wes u-dub, and
• 30:52
  Wazoo. I don't really see them
• 30:56
  competing on for us. I think they're hires will be
• 31:01
  interesting. Yeah.
• 31:04
  But I can't see to Upper Northwest school's coming after
• 31:09
  anybody in the South or Southeast.
• 31:11
  And, yes, I know Auburn hired a Boise coach, which was
• 31:14
  completely unexpected. But, you know, I think here's
• 31:24
  what I'd like to look at. Okay.
• 31:25
  Whoever u-dub hires, I'd like to compare them to are higher
• 31:29
  because I can see a lot of similarities with us and u-dub
• 31:32
  as an overall program Style. Is not the last 10 years because
• 31:35
  Peterson went. There went to the playoff, won
• 31:37
  the Pac-12 several times. Had a really good record.
• 31:41
  But I think looking at who they hire who we hire and kind of
• 31:44
  doing a tit-for-tat like you know, are we in the same
• 31:48
  ballpark or is like man they hired this guy this guy's four
• 31:51
  times better than what we got. Yeah.
• 31:54
  I see what you're saying. Yeah.
• 31:56
  All right so Brian we've already kind of mentioned it.
• 31:59
  The trickle-down effect obviously Penn State out thank
• 32:01
  goodness but let's talk about ones.
• 32:04
  We think we already mentioned David Randall with Baylor.
• 32:11
  I don't think Billy Napier any other guys, I feel like that's
• 32:16
  going to be such a weird job to go.
• 32:19
  Take. Yeah.
• 32:21
  And with Texas Tech and TCU already open already chasing
• 32:29
  after guys, they are going to Aranda does go because a random
• 32:34
  might have to wait until What if Oklahoma State's beats Oklahoma?
• 32:40
  Baylor gets the Big 12 Championship.
• 32:42
  Yeah, so you're almost having to wait really a long, long time
• 32:48
  for baking Hitler in this case. Like, if LSU, swoops in they
• 32:52
  sign the contract Baylor's, literally looking for the week
• 32:55
  before Signing Day to get a new coach, That's going to be tough.
• 33:02
  That's gonna be a tough one. And I think they probably I
• 33:05
  wonder if they're already like and somebody in particular as
• 33:08
  well. Thinking that a random I'd be
• 33:10
  one of those guys that's going to be getting getting picked off
• 33:15
  there or if they may be willing to push some chips in and extend
• 33:18
  him. So that's something that doesn't
• 33:20
  happen. Maybe that would be really
• 33:22
  interesting. If Baylor were able to hold on
• 33:25
  them. Especially with the two jobs,
• 33:26
  he's essentially link to all right.
• 33:29
  It was mentioned last week that kind of Manny Diaz was playing
• 33:33
  for his job. I still think Manny Diaz is out.
• 33:36
  You know, new ad more money being pushed.
• 33:42
  Yeah. They're almost in a full-length
• 33:44
  a situation, but they don't have covid to fall back home.
• 33:48
  Not to fire. Yeah.
• 33:50
  And they're in a situation where there, There's kind of
• 33:56
  struggling with mediocrity as well.
• 33:58
  They're probably a little bit ahead of us, in terms of
• 34:01
  recruiting and a little bit ahead of us.
• 34:03
  In terms of, you know, what type of record they have.
• 34:08
  They've had a little bit higher highs recently, and not quite as
• 34:12
  many valleys, but, yeah, I think if you didn't have the new ad
• 34:18
  coming in, I think you can make a case for may need.
• 34:20
  He's staying at least another year.
• 34:23
  I don't know if you can make that case.
• 34:25
  Right now, just because with the new ad, kind of all bets are
• 34:30
  off. He was that new ad going to come
• 34:33
  and give an extra year or is that douady?
• 34:36
  Going to go ahead and pull the trigger and get his guy in
• 34:38
  there. Yep.
• 34:40
  You think this guy would be though That's a good question
• 34:44
  because I think Florida schools in particular are going to be in
• 34:48
  that direct conflict with us in terms of going after coaches.
• 34:53
  So the question is, do they make the call soon enough where
• 34:55
  they're in any sort of play to impact?
• 35:00
  You know what we're doing? What Florida's doing?
• 35:03
  You know, us and Florida may already have have the pickaxe
• 35:06
  you sewn up. We just haven't been able to
• 35:08
  officially announce it, see what them?
• 35:11
  I think it's completely different.
• 35:12
  I think they've got the higher In Mario crystal ball, okay?
• 35:18
  If you can, I mean the guy played on the 91 championship
• 35:22
  team started, o-line played in the 92 championship game.
• 35:25
  He has been a successful coach. He was there for a while during
• 35:29
  the Coker era and I think you just pick up and say, listen,
• 35:35
  this is yours. Do you want to come home?
• 35:37
  Yeah. And for I think that you sit
• 35:41
  there and say well what do you really want to do that?
• 35:43
  There's money at organ. All right, here's the deal.
• 35:48
  And this is a little ego thing. Mario crystal balls coach to
• 35:52
  close to 20 years in the last 10.
• 35:54
  He's been at nothing but high profile jobs, he's making it a
• 35:57
  five and a half million at Oregon.
• 35:59
  I don't think worries about money.
• 36:01
  I think Mario Chris, Paul's got 20 million in the bank, maybe a
• 36:03
  little less. He's definitely got probably
• 36:05
  eight figures. For him though, to be to have
• 36:11
  the championship ring on his finger, to be the guy who could
• 36:15
  potentially bring back the you. That's something that would
• 36:21
  could never come off you. Yeah, it's true.
• 36:24
  I think the way he coaches, he could do it, but if that happens
• 36:28
  in Oregon's, going to be open. And all right now or them to me
• 36:34
  is more of a national job. I don't think they'd be looking
• 36:37
  at anybody we're looking at but again it's that Fallout effect,
• 36:41
  right? Could you not opening up trickle
• 36:44
  something? Could they get somebody from a
• 36:47
  school that might impact us? Yeah, that's the big thing
• 36:56
  because right now we don't really know what that's going to
• 36:58
  look like they do have a bigger National footprint, but I don't
• 37:04
  know if their National footprint really is going to be targeting
• 37:07
  you know, kind of those top three or four guys and we're
• 37:09
  looking at I can see them going big time, power five, defensive
• 37:15
  coordinator. I can see them going defensive
• 37:17
  or offensive coordinator. I can see them going.
• 37:22
  Targeting a head coach or a former head coach and picking
• 37:25
  them off. They really have a lot of
• 37:27
  options but I don't necessarily think that they necessarily step
• 37:31
  on our toes very much either. Yep, this would be more of a
• 37:35
  triple down like like even further trickle-down effect
• 37:38
  depending on where they pulled from, you know, so much of their
• 37:43
  stuff has been internal. Hires you go all the way back.
• 37:47
  It was like Chip Kelly was the o.c. there helfrich was.
• 37:50
  EEOC. Their crystal ball was the o.c.
• 37:53
  there? They haven't made a true like
• 37:56
  fire, but they haven't made a troop hire outside of their
• 38:00
  internal workings. Yes, the nannies.
• 38:03
  Yeah, which that's not a wild. I mean, go up and look for it.
• 38:09
  Would it was rich who came there in like 90, Then They Carried
• 38:13
  pilate and pilate was there for. Like a decade, he brought in
• 38:16
  chip and it's crazy that that happened.
• 38:19
  It's crazy that they've been as competitive It-it's phrases that
• 38:23
  me. They've been able to keep it
• 38:24
  internal but still have really been relevant.
• 38:27
  If not damn good the entire time.
• 38:30
  Yeah. Taggers the only one Taggarts,
• 38:32
  the only one he lasted one season.
• 38:34
  That's it. Yep, crazy.
• 38:37
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  We are down 1913 1950 1950. Under 10 minutes to go.
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  You have definitely got to be proud of how they're hanging in
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  there. 18:17 store Murphy with the reverse watching.
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  This got a foul here. Oh, that ain't all a file here
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  it is. All right, let's get to it.
• 39:39
  Braun does the enemy we are playing for the Commonwealth
• 39:43
  cup. The University of Virginia, hate
• 39:47
  hate, hate hate, and Brian manic.
• 39:55
  So, we got to start with their offense, you know, just putting
• 40:00
  up some unbelievable numbers this year, one of the top teeth
• 40:04
  offenses in the country, and there ain't no way to downplay
• 40:08
  that. Now, they've been doing work,
• 40:10
  man. They've been doing this work and
• 40:12
  they're led by Brandon Armstrong, the six-foot-two
• 40:15
  215-pound quarterback out of Shelby Ohio who was a three-star
• 40:18
  when he came out, believe it or not, originally a Minnesota
• 40:22
  commit. Oh, and right now he's number
• 40:28
  three in passing in the country, with missing a full game, 4044
• 40:36
  yards. Top 10 in touchdowns 30 pick 30
• 40:42
  touchdowns 9 interception. He also leads the team in
• 40:46
  rushing attempts definitely, obviously a reason why he was
• 40:51
  probably injured, but he also has gotten seven touchdowns, 65
• 40:55
  percent completion. There is like nothing to fill
• 40:59
  their, what are you seeing on the tape?
• 41:02
  And you know, what do we have to watch out for?
• 41:05
  Yeah. Probably the biggest thing and
• 41:07
  the biggest thing that he's improved in since last year when
• 41:10
  we saw him, is that decision making a lot quicker with his
• 41:14
  decision-making knowing where he wants to go to football.
• 41:17
  And that's the biggest thing that he's improved since last
• 41:20
  year, really accurate with this passes, especially in the short
• 41:23
  and intermediate game. And he does a really good job of
• 41:27
  escaping pressure and throwing on the run.
• 41:29
  So he's not just a, it's not there, I'm taking off, he does a
• 41:34
  good job of getting Eating outside the pocket, keeping his
• 41:37
  eyes, downfield, and throwing and hitting the man in stride.
• 41:40
  And he can also hurt it hurt us with his legs, design runs, but
• 41:44
  also scrambles and keepers Yep. And with the rushing he's right
• 41:50
  at about 300 yards for the year so it's not like he is a Braxton
• 41:58
  type threat, where you give him a scene, he can take it, 40
• 42:01
  yards but if you give them a little seam, he's going to make
• 42:04
  you pay with probably picking up a first down.
• 42:07
  Yeah. I mean he's a clever system is
• 42:09
  very similar like Kenny pickets, he's probably maybe just a shade
• 42:12
  faster. Yeah.
• 42:14
  But probably not quite as much feel for it as picking has this
• 42:18
  point. Yeah, he's got to talk about the
• 42:21
  faster. I think he's quicker to get out
• 42:24
  where pick it is more in the pocket right in Mobile in the
• 42:27
  pocket. You see our phones a lot of
• 42:29
  times if he gets in trouble, he kind of honks outside because
• 42:34
  essentially probably you know you kind of already made the
• 42:37
  point you know, he throws good on the Run.
• 42:40
  Yeah, right. So if I get outside, I trust my
• 42:44
  arm but if they give me enough of a crease, I'm going to go up
• 42:47
  and get 45 yards. Yep.
• 42:50
  So, you know, he's wearing a flak jacket.
• 42:56
  So need to hit him needed. Making for those injured.
• 43:00
  Ribs, I don't condone violence but it is strategic now Brian he
• 43:07
  is throwing to a pretty talented wide receiving Corps or
• 43:13
  receiving Corps in general. And I want to start with the
• 43:16
  time TV on Wix wide receiver who was a four-star by 24/7 at a
• 43:21
  Plaquemine Louisiana 61 210. He did not play in.
• 43:27
  So even more surprising to see how much he's developed this
• 43:30
  year with fifty four receptions 1148 yards over 20 per catch.
• 43:39
  Yeah, that's the big thing, big thing and he's making them pay
• 43:43
  you know he's scoring a touchdown on just about 16% of
• 43:46
  every Bali catches. So if you give him ten, he's
• 43:49
  probably going to catch least one for a touchdown on Saturday,
• 43:53
  you know? And that 11:48 is top Ten in the
• 43:56
  country. So he is one of those Elite wide
• 43:59
  receivers. What is the take?
• 44:01
  Tell about what he does for Brandon Armstrong.
• 44:04
  So he's their best deep throat on the team and it's not just
• 44:08
  throwing it deep to him. He's got really good run after
• 44:10
  the catch, he's got good speed, great route Runner, seeing him
• 44:15
  being this polished and Route. Running is pretty impressive for
• 44:19
  him. And you know when he's in those
• 44:22
  situations where he matched up against a Defender, he does a
• 44:25
  good job of High Point in the ball and winning those kind of
• 44:27
  one-on-one battles. So really kind of the all-around
• 44:30
  complete receiver that you like, especially the fact that he can
• 44:33
  do a lot after the catch in turn a quick hitter into a big play.
• 44:39
  Yep, let me ask you. Is he like, Miami has three and
• 44:51
  four of them. Is he the only one that you VA
• 44:54
  has like Miami? Um, yeah.
• 45:01
  Okay, he's probably the only Elite level player on this
• 45:05
  group. This group is deeper than Miami,
• 45:09
  but they are not quite as top-end at every position as
• 45:14
  Miami. So they've got probably five or
• 45:18
  six guys that can go out there and produce in a given game, but
• 45:24
  they've only got one that can really kind of break the game
• 45:28
  open and that's wigs, got it. All right.
• 45:31
  Well speaking of one of those other options, they've got Ian
• 45:34
  to Thompson the football player. I'm sorry that's still these
• 45:39
  stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's corny, man.
• 45:42
  Like you know, column OWI offense of wet wipe.
• 45:46
  Least, you know football player can apply to, you know, me King,
• 45:52
  does he play offensive line know that he's not a true football
• 45:56
  player Bronco? You knew he was a Mississippi
• 46:00
  State transfer and you know him coming out he was a pretty
• 46:04
  highly coveted quarterback. He was a four-star, a top-five
• 46:08
  dual threat quarterback and didn't quite pan out.
• 46:14
  Give him credit. Or being willing to take on
• 46:18
  something new, we know a lot of players who will not do that but
• 46:22
  so far this year 244 yards on the ground, averaging over six
• 46:26
  of Kerry's got 26 pounds. That way, 70 receptions for 882
• 46:32
  yards, over 12 perceptions, only a couple touch down there.
• 46:38
  So easy 1,000 from you know scrimmage I'm kind of interested
• 46:43
  Brian. When you were looking at the
• 46:45
  tape How did they get him? The ball running.
• 46:50
  What were they doing? So it was usually out of motion,
• 46:53
  but sometimes they even line them up in the backfield either
• 46:55
  in shotgun or like pistol behind the quarterback.
• 46:58
  So they get him involved a lot of different ways they like to
• 47:02
  run them up at wide receiver, they'll get him going that way.
• 47:08
  It's a lot of different ways. They get him involved in the
• 47:10
  football game. They really kind of use them,
• 47:13
  mostly as a like a hybrid HVAC wide.
• 47:16
  That that's probably the most descriptive thing that you can
• 47:19
  apply to him, okay, but he's got good hands for a guy that wasn't
• 47:26
  a wide receiver, you're kind of out the gate there.
• 47:28
  So it's interesting to see how he's progressed from last year,
• 47:34
  because he's definitely more of a offensive threat this year
• 47:37
  than he was last year. He was really more of a gadget
• 47:39
  type player last year. Yeah, again, give give him
• 47:43
  credit, give them credit for convincing him.
• 47:46
  To listen, you can be a wide receiver HVAC, does he block any
• 47:53
  or he does but it's not his it's not his Forte.
• 48:00
  I'd say, he's average at best but sometimes all you need is a
• 48:05
  guy to get in the way. And so they usually scheme him
• 48:08
  in an area where if he gets in the way, he's probably doing
• 48:11
  most of his job. God.
• 48:13
  All right. Next we want to talk about?
• 48:16
  Definitely. Lee is you know probably used a
• 48:21
  little more in the blocking game.
• 48:23
  Jelani Woods too tight in six foot seven 275 pounds, the
• 48:27
  Oklahoma State transfer was a three-star when he came out so
• 48:31
  far this year. Solid numbers for a Titan, not
• 48:36
  going crazy or anything 37 receptions, 534 yards, just over
• 48:40
  14 per reception, seven touchdowns.
• 48:44
  So obviously, you know, along with Wix definitely a favorite
• 48:50
  Target as they get down into the Red Zone and for some big pass
• 48:53
  plays, what is the tape telling us again on these.
• 48:58
  This is one of those when he was transferring and they saw him
• 49:02
  boy. On a UVA.
• 49:03
  I remember we can have conversations like this is a guy
• 49:06
  that would probably be good for us, but of course.
• 49:11
  Yeah. And I mean he's kind of the
• 49:12
  all-around tight in does a really good job with the kind of
• 49:18
  stick movers, in terms of the receiving threat, they will
• 49:22
  split them out. They'll do a couple different
• 49:23
  things with him. He's not just an inline guy and
• 49:27
  he's an average blocker. So he, you know, they really
• 49:31
  aren't great in the Run game and he bring a whole lot to that,
• 49:34
  but he's good enough, where you're going to be, will line
• 49:37
  him up in line. They will also light him up,
• 49:40
  split out wide, so I mean really good player but more of a threat
• 49:46
  in the passing game than being an asset in the running game.
• 49:51
  Got it. Sorry.
• 49:52
  Big three-pointer right there from.
• 49:54
  Who is that from Alan to cut it to three?
• 50:01
  It's kind of crazy because you would think somebody with that
• 50:03
  big of a body would be a lot better in Paso.
• 50:08
  But you also think well he's coming from a big 12 school, how
• 50:10
  much of the actually use them and doing that, you know, again
• 50:14
  I would I would have loved to have somebody like this on our
• 50:17
  team but it is what it is, all right.
• 50:21
  Braun last piece. We're going to hit here is going
• 50:23
  to be their running game in their offensive line.
• 50:26
  They really don't have a one standout running back.
• 50:29
  Its kind of the quarterback County Thompson and three other
• 50:33
  guys and it's Wayne Tuttle Papa my columns and Devin Darrington
• 50:40
  or kind of carrying the weight there and some way.
• 50:45
  And the offensive line Brian. Not a good pass Pro offensive
• 50:51
  line, at least based on the stats 121st and sacks allowed at
• 50:56
  3800, 21st and tackles for loss allowed, she the 92nd and
• 51:00
  tackles for loss of p53 said, they are giving up, you know,
• 51:05
  roughly a little over nine, you know, behind the line of
• 51:09
  scrimmage tackles game. Yeah.
• 51:11
  Motion offense is 97, just about 127 a game.
• 51:15
  So similar to my Amis numbers. What what what are we can can we
• 51:21
  get a pass rush in like we did last week we should be able to
• 51:25
  get a good pass rush. There they'll be there really
• 51:28
  bad in the in the Run game we kind of talked about it there so
• 51:32
  bad in the Run game overall a below average unit in past Pro
• 51:37
  Armstrong, being able to break contain in the pocket, being
• 51:42
  able to run makes them look even better than they than the
• 51:45
  numbers show and then they're really bad.
• 51:49
  Run blocking. you talked about the trio, they're tala, Papa's
• 51:54
  kind of the Plotter, you'll get them yards, they'll bring in
• 51:59
  Hollands, its kind of the the mix it up back.
• 52:02
  He's a little bit more of a kind of one cut and go and that helps
• 52:08
  them a little bit. But they really most that most
• 52:12
  everything that they gained in the running game is because of
• 52:16
  the threat of the passing game. All right, so if the passing
• 52:25
  game, if we can contain that in the slightest, this isn't like
• 52:29
  pit or pit. We kind of got that passing game
• 52:33
  under control but they're good enough.
• 52:35
  Running the ball where they essentially suck.
• 52:37
  The cotton dry where special way the offense played that day.
• 52:40
  We had no chance. They don't have it.
• 52:42
  A band of Canada, on their team. They don't have an offensive
• 52:45
  line that can get them to the edge consistently.
• 52:47
  That that's the two things that pick could still do.
• 52:51
  All right, so let's take a note of that folks, that if it gets
• 52:55
  into one of these scrum games and we are somehow shutting down
• 52:59
  their passing attack. They don't have that to lean
• 53:01
  back on. Unlike Syracuse, unlike pit and
• 53:04
  a couple of the losses we got this year.
• 53:07
  All right, Brian? Let's flip it over to the
• 53:09
  defensive side of the ball. This defense is bad.
• 53:14
  Yeah. And in when they hired Bronco
• 53:16
  Mendenhall, you know, six years ago, Ago.
• 53:21
  Next week, I thought my first thought was well they're never
• 53:24
  going to be bad defensively. Their wretched defensively
• 53:29
  scoring defense hundred and second in the nation they're
• 53:31
  giving up 32 points a game. Run defense, they're giving up
• 53:35
  217 yards per game. I like the sound of that.
• 53:39
  Their Total Defense has 121st uniform 66 so they're giving up
• 53:44
  another 250 assing. There's one thing they're good
• 53:49
  at. And it's probably because
• 53:52
  they've only been down there not as many times as most teams is
• 53:55
  there red zone. Defense is twenty seventh in the
• 53:59
  nation you know, 46 trip. They've gone up 35 scores 24 or
• 54:04
  touchdowns. So they're not like Elite.
• 54:10
  Yeah, well give it up. 2/3 is touchdowns but kind of Defense.
• 54:16
  Are they running? And let's talk about Nick
• 54:19
  Jackson run. Yeah, so let's start with the
• 54:23
  front. It's a 335 kind of multiple
• 54:26
  front. They'll go into a 24.
• 54:30
  Look, they'll go into a 3/4 look.
• 54:33
  But the base defense is a 335 and this is kind of a change
• 54:38
  from the previous few years where they were running more of
• 54:40
  a 3/4 as their base. This is kind of the Bronco
• 54:46
  Mendenhall like BYU look here, right?
• 54:50
  Yeah. so it's a little bit different, but in terms of Nick
• 54:56
  Jackson, he's there inside linebacker and he's really the
• 55:00
  Probably the better of the two linebackers, he's only average
• 55:03
  against the Run. He doesn't do a great job of
• 55:05
  shedding blockers but he is their primary blitzing
• 55:08
  linebacker when they bring the inside guys and he does a really
• 55:12
  good job there and he's really above average in their Zone
• 55:15
  coverage as well so he helps them out in bails them out.
• 55:18
  A lot of times in seven coverage in Jackson 26 1235 is Bond said
• 55:24
  linebacker was a high three store.
• 55:26
  I love. It's cool down in Atlanta.
• 55:29
  Let me ask this bra. I'm so he's you talk about him
• 55:32
  being good, on the Bloods, he's got two and a half sacks for a
• 55:35
  linebacker. That's not a bad number.
• 55:38
  Another three tackles for loss, why is his tackle number?
• 55:42
  So good. One of the seven, I mean that's
• 55:45
  an ungodly amount of tackles is it is it more of him cleaning up
• 55:50
  or is it more of? He's good in coverage so he's
• 55:54
  where he's supposed to be all the time.
• 55:57
  It's a little bit of that the latter there.
• 56:00
  He's also so he's not as quick to get off blocks with it.
• 56:03
  Also puts him in a position where if it gets to the second
• 56:06
  level. Sometimes he's the guy cleaning
• 56:08
  it up but he's cleaning it up five or six or seven or eight
• 56:11
  yards. Downfield, not meeting guys in
• 56:14
  the whole, okay? So it's one of those things
• 56:17
  where the numbers is he's doing his job but he's just not doing
• 56:21
  it, he's doing it average to below average.
• 56:24
  Yeah. Makes exactly.
• 56:27
  Alright next, I want to hit on here.
• 56:29
  Brian is Joey blunt the 6 foot 2, 2005 defensive back, he's a
• 56:37
  myth 3 star. He was at a Landmark Christian
• 56:40
  and Fairbank or shooting Fairburn Georgia.
• 56:43
  Seventy seven tackles for loss, really high number, for a
• 56:47
  safety, three picks along with three past offended.
• 56:52
  Is he in the box safety or see? Free.
• 56:56
  So he's there free safety but he ends up.
• 56:58
  They'll either drop him deep and sometimes they'll bring him in
• 57:01
  on robber type coverage where he'll be kind of playing
• 57:05
  underneath and that second level of Defense instead of on the top
• 57:08
  end he makes some of the the backend issues they have kind of
• 57:14
  go away a little bit so that helps but he does also come on
• 57:21
  blitzes but he does if he ever gets matched up in man Relations
• 57:25
  he does get beat so they try to not match him up in man very
• 57:30
  often but when he's in zone he's a pretty good Defender.
• 57:37
  So one of those thing I would say, if we had a pretty good
• 57:41
  passing offense, like, let's go for wide and force him to come
• 57:45
  down, or force them to go to, some sort of dime package where
• 57:49
  they're taking one of their better linebackers off the field
• 57:51
  but obviously we can't do that. So can you run at him?
• 57:58
  You can, he's actually pretty good against the Run.
• 58:01
  He does a good job with tackling so that's the big thing.
• 58:04
  Sometimes he will miss a fit sometimes you'll guess wrong
• 58:08
  things like that but he does a good job overall of being where
• 58:12
  it needs to be. Alright good deal on that, let's
• 58:15
  go quickly let's get into the trenches here Brian let's talk
• 58:18
  about Mandy Mandy Alonzo, a 6-foot to 290-pound defensive
• 58:24
  lineman, a two-star coming out of Miami Florida so far this
• 58:30
  season. He's got three sacks.
• 58:31
  He's got six additional tackles for loss. 30 tackles.
• 58:37
  And I know when they put my see, six foot two ninety.
• 58:40
  I merely want to say he's somewhere on the inside but when
• 58:44
  I hear 33 stack, I mean, is he playing like a nose or is he
• 58:48
  kind of moving up and down the line?
• 58:51
  He's that DM but he's also the one of the guys that staying in,
• 58:54
  if they go to that that to felt that 24 looks so, you know, when
• 58:59
  you think of the n and a three-man front, you're getting
• 59:02
  a heavier Guy usually somewhere between the two 82 to 90 range,
• 59:05
  sometimes, even heavier depending on the scheme and he
• 59:09
  does where he the most balanced defensive lineman that they use
• 59:13
  his, he can play inside, and outside, depending on which
• 59:17
  front they're going with, he's their best, even surviving
• 59:20
  against the run and he really shows a good motor in the in the
• 59:25
  pass game as well. So I think that's a big thing to
• 59:28
  look out for. Is that he will get after the
• 59:30
  quarterback too. Yeah, obviously three sex.
• 59:34
  I think that might actually lead their team.
• 59:37
  We pull it up here real quick just to show you how bad the
• 59:40
  defense is. Yes, he is leading the team with
• 59:46
  three sacks. So when you talk about is he
• 59:51
  playing like a for technique primarily Games, you played
• 59:56
  primarily a for they'll slide him into a 3.
• 1:00:00
  If they go with it to man front, okay, he's primarily in a for
• 1:00:05
  they'll slam him inside and out there.
• 1:00:08
  All right, so last person I want to talk about Is Anthony Johnson
• 1:00:13
  primarily because the potential of not having trade Turner, but
• 1:00:17
  I wanted to look at Anthony Johnson, Bryant six-foot-one,
• 1:00:21
  205 pounds, so far three interceptions this year, 41
• 1:00:25
  tackles two tackles for loss for past defended.
• 1:00:29
  He was a Louisville Transfer low.
• 1:00:32
  Three-star. Very low three-star.
• 1:00:34
  Only came out from Shah mardan from xiamen on.
• 1:00:37
  Everybody should know shaman on Maui.
• 1:00:40
  Invitational is on this week. If you haven't seen In xiamen on
• 1:00:42
  play. They're usually terrible Madonna
• 1:00:45
  High School in Hollywood Florida.
• 1:00:48
  So is he their best corner or is he just an inside type guy?
• 1:00:55
  Yeah, he's their best cover corner.
• 1:00:57
  He does a really good job in zone in particular.
• 1:01:02
  He does a good job of breaking on the ball.
• 1:01:04
  Reacting he will get beaten man but he's not necessarily a
• 1:01:11
  liability. The up there either he'll win
• 1:01:15
  some lose some. So that's an opportunity.
• 1:01:17
  We have to kind of take advantage of them in coverage.
• 1:01:20
  There's is maybe attack him when we see man.
• 1:01:26
  So I'm assuming this is going to be super important for try to
• 1:01:29
  come back then. Yeah, I think it will struggle.
• 1:01:34
  If we don't have this, we have him matched up majority entree,
• 1:01:38
  that'll give some of the other guys, some opportunities in this
• 1:01:41
  passing game. Mmmmm and we should still be
• 1:01:42
  able to pass on them regardless, but having tray in there would
• 1:01:46
  definitely be a big benefit. That's what I thought in before
• 1:01:52
  we flip over to the Lambda version of the Hokies.
• 1:01:54
  It is a one point game as we're getting to the end of the half
• 1:01:57
  here, that is an offensive foul, but it did not get called all
• 1:02:03
  it. They've had a quick whistle and
• 1:02:08
  everything else and now they're you swallow the whistle of his
• 1:02:11
  last minute for no reason. Like he barreled into him.
• 1:02:14
  That was hilarious. Like I mean they're you know,
• 1:02:17
  they still took that bad of a shot.
• 1:02:18
  Holy cow what a hit. You got two possessions therein
• 1:02:22
  and took that shot that was like a full seven or eight inches.
• 1:02:26
  Short of the rim. That's terrible.
• 1:02:29
  All right, so let's flip to the Lambda version brine, this isn't
• 1:02:32
  the Lambda version this week, Braun.
• 1:02:35
  The final version of the year and I forgot to update it.
• 1:02:39
  This is not Lambda. I do not want the land of
• 1:02:41
  urgent. We show the fucking Lambda
• 1:02:42
  version. We're going to lose this guy.
• 1:02:45
  We really just freaking game. We don't want that one.
• 1:02:47
  We do not want that one. So this week.
• 1:02:50
  Last but not least, this is the movie version.
• 1:02:53
  The movie version, And Brian, let's start with the offense.
• 1:02:59
  We were in the ball 30 times with our quarterbacks last week.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah, can't do that. So, what's Point number one,
• 1:03:06
  that if Brad core Nelson actually had any Common Sense he
• 1:03:09
  do, Well, the big thing you want to do is you want to run the
• 1:03:15
  ball with your running backs. You know, the guys that you
• 1:03:21
  recruit to run the football, that's what you want, broken 100
• 1:03:26
  in the last month. Yeah, really good.
• 1:03:29
  ACC running back of the week, the previous week before you
• 1:03:31
  gave him three carries. Three carries since we've
• 1:03:41
  already shown. They are terrible against the
• 1:03:43
  Run, dip. I think potentially, if this
• 1:03:48
  team runs the ball like we have at points this year, I think we
• 1:03:52
  can break 300. If we break 300 this game is
• 1:03:56
  going to be a game in the 20s. Yeah, they're going to be
• 1:03:59
  nervous. Yeah, this game is all about
• 1:04:03
  extending our drives and keeping their offense off the field and
• 1:04:07
  getting touchdowns when we need to get them.
• 1:04:09
  So, something we saw last week, Brian, and both guys made some
• 1:04:15
  extremely good plays. Jalen Jones Dwayne Lofton.
• 1:04:20
  They can't lose their red shirt. So what do we want?
• 1:04:24
  Get them in the game, get them involved, get the youth
• 1:04:27
  involved. You know, we've already got
• 1:04:31
  some, some uptick in that last week.
• 1:04:34
  Let's see, more of that this week.
• 1:04:37
  Let's kind of pull out all the stops with the youth.
• 1:04:40
  Get them out there if they're, you know, playing well in
• 1:04:43
  practice, get them out there. Let's see what they can do.
• 1:04:46
  We need all hands on deck. Yep.
• 1:04:49
  And they showed last week, they're ready for big moments.
• 1:04:52
  The Wayne Lofton with the touchdown catch.
• 1:04:55
  And with that fourth down, conversion, catch in Jalen
• 1:04:57
  Jones, over the middle showing no fear.
• 1:04:59
  You POP, hold onto the ball, getting a big first down.
• 1:05:04
  And if I, it's going to be one of those things to where if we
• 1:05:09
  don't see them, I think us as a fan base on Saturday afternoon
• 1:05:12
  or just going to just get a little more in Greek, like these
• 1:05:15
  guys showed you they could do it.
• 1:05:16
  Yeah. Now you're pulling them off the
• 1:05:18
  field because I think some of the sets you can go with with
• 1:05:22
  Jones with Lofton with teh with Caleb with tray.
• 1:05:26
  You could give them some real problems.
• 1:05:28
  So So attack them. Yep, I mentioned it earlier, the
• 1:05:33
  one good thing UVA is they are decent red zone defense team.
• 1:05:37
  We have to have some big plays. Yeah, we're gonna have to score
• 1:05:41
  from outside the 20 at least a couple times here.
• 1:05:44
  So we need some big plays that turn into points.
• 1:05:48
  Now, the honest truth is, if you've watched them play this
• 1:05:50
  year, they can surrender them don't dip.
• 1:05:53
  It ain't like they're lighting the world up.
• 1:05:55
  They can surrender those big plays.
• 1:05:57
  So, I think popping it. Like you said, I think at least
• 1:06:01
  two, I think, if we get to, it's going to be a competitive game.
• 1:06:06
  I think if we get more than two, I think they could be in a world
• 1:06:10
  of hurt. Because if we're popping a
• 1:06:12
  couple big running plays off, and we get a one big passing
• 1:06:15
  play. I know, it favors into the wood.
• 1:06:18
  Into the 30s kind of favors them.
• 1:06:20
  Well, the issue is if we're running the ball like that,
• 1:06:23
  there's going to be some drives where we stand, right?
• 1:06:25
  Yep, we're going to pop some. We're going to have extended
• 1:06:28
  drives and eventually Their defense is going to be done and
• 1:06:34
  if that comes to case where it's late in the game, and it's a tie
• 1:06:38
  game and you're just running the ball at will just run, slow the
• 1:06:42
  tempo down yet, one slow the tempo down, run slow the tempo
• 1:06:46
  down, where you're going to force Armstrong, who has at
• 1:06:49
  times can make errors. All right one last piece here
• 1:06:54
  Braun, it was the big killer last week and it was against a
• 1:06:59
  defense who wasn't that good? We're against a defense.
• 1:07:01
  And again is not that good at second, the quarterback.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah, if we can limit the - plays and limits acts, then we
• 1:07:10
  should be able to put some points on this board on the this
• 1:07:13
  team and move the ball. Well, they don't sack the
• 1:07:16
  quarterback much, they don't throw folks return of tackles
• 1:07:19
  for loss. We can't let something that's
• 1:07:21
  their weakness. Turn into any sort of asset to
• 1:07:23
  them in this game. Yep.
• 1:07:25
  It's essentially what we did for Miami.
• 1:07:28
  And yes, it's a 3826 game, but some of those plays where it
• 1:07:33
  looked like we were going to get the ball moving.
• 1:07:35
  We took a big sack which living Echo for loss and it slowed, the
• 1:07:39
  momentum down and it's one of those weird things, right?
• 1:07:43
  Well, they're not good at it, but they had they had a lucky, a
• 1:07:46
  know, when a team has a lucky game like that, it's essentially
• 1:07:50
  on you to not let the worst part of their game, become a
• 1:07:54
  strength. Yep, we're going into this game
• 1:07:57
  where we thought. All right, Brian, let's talk
• 1:07:59
  about defense. Now, we're going into this game,
• 1:08:01
  Thinking, look at the Miami game.
• 1:08:04
  Why we predicted the game are back in.
• 1:08:06
  Had been solid all year the way we mixed coverages and
• 1:08:08
  everything. Yep, there were two games.
• 1:08:12
  We discussed right before we got on here, if we have preferences
• 1:08:17
  on the backend of Miami and Syracuse, we're not winning this
• 1:08:19
  game. We are not winning this game.
• 1:08:23
  You take any other other nine games and I know West Virginia.
• 1:08:27
  We got burned. Times in every game we got
• 1:08:29
  burned a couple times but overall the back ended played
• 1:08:33
  well, what do we have to do for on?
• 1:08:37
  Gotta go back to the coverages that we've seen have success
• 1:08:40
  against this type of offense. Really?
• 1:08:43
  I mean, if we want to look at a mirror, let's look at how we
• 1:08:45
  played against Pitt and try to replicate that because pit tries
• 1:08:50
  to do a lot of the same type of things in the passing game that
• 1:08:53
  you ba does and has a similar type of quarterback that has
• 1:08:57
  that athleticism, but also good at sling, it downfield, good in
• 1:09:02
  the intermediate game. So need to try to mirror some of
• 1:09:06
  that. That definitely less cover to
• 1:09:09
  than we saw last week. Let's cover to burn cover to.
• 1:09:15
  Yeah, burn it. The only time we need to be
• 1:09:18
  playing covered to is if we're up like 17.
• 1:09:23
  Like truly for up 17. Please that then you can call a
• 1:09:27
  cover to you know some else Brian last week.
• 1:09:32
  If we go back and look at you compared to last week I felt
• 1:09:35
  like on Duke and I know they had a Young quarterback and they're
• 1:09:37
  not a good team. We brought a lot more pressure.
• 1:09:41
  Yeah. You definitely sitting back more
• 1:09:45
  against Miami. I feel like this is one of those
• 1:09:47
  where if you can press the issue with the quarter back a little
• 1:09:50
  bit and make them make some mistakes.
• 1:09:51
  I think that that plays in your favor.
• 1:09:54
  I know he can sling it around, but if you're not getting to him
• 1:09:58
  with with for you need to try something else because I'd much
• 1:10:01
  rather maybe have some sort of vacated area in the defense but
• 1:10:08
  Rush the quarterback. Then not rush the quarterback.
• 1:10:12
  Let him sit back and find all those windows.
• 1:10:15
  Yeah, we mentioned his athleticism.
• 1:10:17
  He has a little bit but his athleticism isn't going to be
• 1:10:21
  gaining massive chunks every time.
• 1:10:24
  Yeah, I think the risk is worth the reward.
• 1:10:27
  I think the risk of him potentially getting 7 to 12
• 1:10:31
  yards on a broken play. Is worth the reward of sacking
• 1:10:36
  him three, four times, getting them well behind the sticks
• 1:10:40
  making as the coverage you like that Cameron's best.
• 1:10:43
  As we were on that quarters coverage.
• 1:10:45
  Letting let's get into its third and 15 getting quarters.
• 1:10:49
  Getting quarters long across the field.
• 1:10:52
  Cover for cover sticks, do it, do it.
• 1:10:55
  Alright, next piece on defense brine And you tell me what you
• 1:11:02
  meant by this because this was a couple days ago we talked about
• 1:11:04
  mixing up the underneath coverages.
• 1:11:06
  Explain that again. Like what do you want to see?
• 1:11:09
  And when I'm thinking this is going to be linebackers tamari
• 1:11:15
  in maybe whoever's playing Rover.
• 1:11:17
  Yeah, yeah. I want to make sure that we're
• 1:11:20
  running some man with those underneath guys.
• 1:11:22
  I want to see that we're bringing some of the safeties
• 1:11:26
  into the box into that second level of coverage instead of
• 1:11:29
  Having them deep. I want to keep Armstrong
• 1:11:32
  guessing about not knowing, who is defending, what areas of Zone
• 1:11:36
  who's Manning up on, who the more we can keep him.
• 1:11:39
  Guessing the more, he can't just hit those intermediate routes
• 1:11:44
  and we'll, all right. What about the whole?
• 1:11:49
  I think I mentioned this to you the other day about sometimes,
• 1:11:52
  sending the blitz enforcing the throws over the middle.
• 1:11:56
  Like are you okay? I think would have been a Okay,
• 1:11:59
  with Miami with Van Dyke, are you okay?
• 1:12:01
  With Them having to put together eight to ten yard eight to ten
• 1:12:07
  plate drives. Yeah, I mean, the more we can
• 1:12:10
  force them to have to drive the field of more, they could
• 1:12:13
  potentially make some mistakes and give us the ball back, or
• 1:12:17
  stop a drive. That ends short of scoring range
• 1:12:20
  or ends in three instead of six. I mean, that's really what
• 1:12:23
  you're trying to do here. All right, so so when you're
• 1:12:28
  talking about the underneath stuff it's more of since we try
• 1:12:32
  to give them a confusing look button.
• 1:12:34
  I guess in some cases if we're giving you the middle of the
• 1:12:38
  field take the middle of the field.
• 1:12:41
  You get six yard, we tackle you but you have to throw again,
• 1:12:45
  you're not getting 16, you're not getting 26 downfield.
• 1:12:48
  Well and if you're going to again, you show them one thing
• 1:12:51
  that that drive you give up six, then you show them something
• 1:12:54
  different. The Very next play and now he's
• 1:12:57
  thinking more. So I think that's what you want
• 1:12:59
  to do, you know? Don't don't, don't get
• 1:13:02
  comfortable with one look on those underneath guys.
• 1:13:05
  Mix it up so he's not sure what you're throwing at it next and
• 1:13:09
  there you know 8 x 10 are going to be throwing the ball.
• 1:13:13
  So yep it's true because we've already said it they don't have
• 1:13:19
  a really good run game and much like the way we ended the
• 1:13:22
  defensive section we're going to in the offensive We cannot let
• 1:13:26
  this run game hurt us. Yep.
• 1:13:28
  This one game needs to be at 120, their average or below?
• 1:13:34
  Yep. Absolutely.
• 1:13:36
  You can't let something that is a weakness of your opponent,
• 1:13:40
  become an asset. And we said it with the with the
• 1:13:43
  offensive side for us, got to limit the, the Saxon - please.
• 1:13:49
  Same on defense can let the Run game hurt.
• 1:13:52
  You can't let them average over 4.5 yards.
• 1:13:55
  A carry, keep them at or below their average, which I believe
• 1:13:58
  is what 4.3 yet. So keep them below that.
• 1:14:03
  Keep them behind the sticks. If they decide to run the ball,
• 1:14:07
  make them pay for it by having to throw the ball further the
• 1:14:09
  next down. Yeah.
• 1:14:11
  And again I think another thing for us to is is going to be the
• 1:14:15
  passing game when it comes to the offense.
• 1:14:18
  We're averaging about 180. I think, if we get over 200
• 1:14:23
  passing to go with 250 plus rushing, I think we win this
• 1:14:28
  game. Yeah, and let's flip to it.
• 1:14:32
  Brian. Let slip through the
• 1:14:33
  predictions. You know.
• 1:14:38
  It's going to be really funny. Regardless, what happened?
• 1:14:40
  Saturday? Justin for went days, gone.
• 1:14:43
  And it essentially, the worst six-year run.
• 1:14:47
  Yep. Virginia Tech football since we
• 1:14:51
  were basically This Tall. Yep.
• 1:14:54
  You might have been this tall. I was probably just tell you
• 1:14:56
  were probably a little tired. They've only be this once it
• 1:15:02
  pull out the win. Saturday be this twice.
• 1:15:06
  They celebrate but we get to laugh and say we got rid of the
• 1:15:09
  problem but for the life of me Brian I can't do it.
• 1:15:15
  I can't pick them. I don't know what to be able to
• 1:15:18
  pick them and I'm going to say it is going to be a war with
• 1:15:22
  them. I think the defense holds a few
• 1:15:25
  times and I think in the end with about 40 seconds left
• 1:15:33
  Malachi Thomas punches one in from about eight yards out.
• 1:15:38
  To take the lead, 3534. I think we're going to wear that
• 1:15:43
  defense down. We're late in the game.
• 1:15:45
  We're going to run at will and we're going to be able to milk
• 1:15:47
  the clock with about six or seven minutes left when they
• 1:15:50
  can't stop it. They're going to know it's over.
• 1:15:53
  Yep I'm with that. I'm really close to you.
• 1:15:56
  I'm actually 34-31 Hokies. I think this is one where they
• 1:16:01
  take the lead. We get a Lake Drive.
• 1:16:03
  We stick it in for a touchdown late to retake the lead.
• 1:16:07
  They're not able to do it. Do anything with the time left.
• 1:16:10
  Yep. In the end, I think the team's
• 1:16:13
  up, I think just listening to the players talk.
• 1:16:17
  I think the team is up for this week.
• 1:16:19
  I think JC price is going to have them up.
• 1:16:22
  Yeah. And um it's going to be a war.
• 1:16:27
  It's going to be a war. I don't know what the stadium is
• 1:16:29
  going to. Like, that's going to be the
• 1:16:30
  interesting piece is 345, I got asked by someone was, I was I
• 1:16:34
  going up Saturday side. If you are dominated up there.
• 1:16:47
  Alright, Braun. We got to pick some games here,
• 1:16:49
  for we close out tonight. Last week, Brian, are we
• 1:16:54
  counting the UVA game? I need to know.
• 1:17:00
  Let's count it. Let's count.
• 1:17:02
  As I said that Armstrong was going to play and he did.
• 1:17:05
  So I can't really say that we should not count it.
• 1:17:08
  All right, you went five and six island 7 and 4 because I am
• 1:17:13
  counting the Marshal UNCC game, which we both got right now.
• 1:17:18
  Brian 5259 one for the are summe 5952.
• 1:17:22
  And one for the year, I'm 64 44 in one for the year.
• 1:17:27
  And we're going to do, it's a lot of rivalry games this week.
• 1:17:30
  We're going to do 11 games and let's start Brian.
• 1:17:33
  U NC NC State Saturday. If you need Friday, NC State
• 1:17:38
  Lane six points. What do you think on this game?
• 1:17:43
  Excuse me. I'm sorry.
• 1:17:45
  I've got the honor, Donna. Yo, for these big guy you're
• 1:17:50
  good. I'm going to take NC State.
• 1:17:52
  I think you can see State just a better overall team.
• 1:17:55
  I think it's going to be a competitive game.
• 1:17:57
  I think NC State wins by 10. They probably went somewhere
• 1:18:00
  like 3424 3828, but I think if we see Carolina, when you have a
• 1:18:07
  decent defense, Things. Don't go great for them.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah, I'm with that. I think it's going to be NC
• 1:18:16
  State as well. I think it's going to be a
• 1:18:18
  touchdown. It's going to be a one of those
• 1:18:21
  tight covers there but I think NC State takes care of it.
• 1:18:24
  I still don't know what to think about this UNC team.
• 1:18:26
  It's one of the most baffling teams I've seen just because of
• 1:18:31
  their talent, their offensive ability but their inability to
• 1:18:36
  do it well against good defenses and do it.
• 1:18:39
  Consent do it, do it consistently enough, where, you
• 1:18:43
  know, if they're facing a team that has a decent offense, that
• 1:18:45
  they can overcome that because their defense is pretty bad.
• 1:18:49
  All right, in Friday, 7:00 for that game.
• 1:18:52
  Let's go to the next one. Braun BC versus wake.
• 1:18:55
  Wake plan for everything wake wins.
• 1:18:58
  They are in the ACC Championship game, they lose.
• 1:19:03
  It's a bunch of other stuff. It's either NC State or Clemson.
• 1:19:06
  Yep. Wake is a five-point Road,
• 1:19:10
  favorite up at BC. What do you think on this one?
• 1:19:14
  Ron. I went with fake last week and
• 1:19:17
  they let me down. I'm going to go with wake again,
• 1:19:18
  though. I think they closed it out.
• 1:19:20
  I think they end up taking care of business this week, a lot
• 1:19:24
  better than they did last week and I think they get about 10
• 1:19:26
  Point Victory here. Yep.
• 1:19:30
  I'm with you on that Alma specially after BC last week.
• 1:19:35
  They let me down against FSU, they made FS you look super
• 1:19:39
  relevant again. So I don't think you know I
• 1:19:43
  think five is like that perfect number.
• 1:19:45
  I think it's about a touchdown game, probably like 2821 maybe a
• 1:19:49
  little higher but jerker vich I think jirka bitch is kind of
• 1:19:53
  becoming a story. He's definitely, he's definitely
• 1:19:56
  got to come back next year. It sucks for him because I think
• 1:19:59
  if he plays a full year and has a good season, I think that guys
• 1:20:02
  in the NFL next year, but in this case, I'm going to
• 1:20:05
  definitely take wake on this one.
• 1:20:07
  Have all this one's going to be fun right here.
• 1:20:09
  Behind clean old-fashioned hate. In Atlanta where it will
• 1:20:16
  probably be more red and black than gold and blue as Georgia
• 1:20:21
  Tech takes on Georgia this line. First of all the over-under is
• 1:20:26
  54. Okay.
• 1:20:29
  Okay. The line is George Elaine 35.
• 1:20:37
  So someone is predicting the Georgia Tech's.
• 1:20:40
  Going to get 10 points. Yeah, I don't see that happen.
• 1:20:44
  I know this is one of those legal limit is much as you've
• 1:20:49
  got. Put your mortgage on it.
• 1:20:52
  Georgia is going to win by 50. Yeah.
• 1:20:56
  This should be close at all. Ugh.
• 1:20:58
  All the way. Yeah. 35 is just not enough.
• 1:21:03
  Georgia Tech. They played like shit last
• 1:21:06
  weekend Saturday night, I mean, absolute shit.
• 1:21:09
  Yeah. You got a team that's coming in
• 1:21:11
  here prepping to get ready? They're going to get rough
• 1:21:13
  housed. All right, Brian, let's go down
• 1:21:20
  to the swamp. A fire Dan Mullen, Florida is
• 1:21:24
  still a two and a half Point. Favorite verses FSU does the
• 1:21:29
  firing. Spell the tribes up because you
• 1:21:33
  know get the Gators going. This is for Bowl eligibility.
• 1:21:36
  Winner goes to a bowl, loser does not Yeah man, I like FSU
• 1:21:43
  here. Call me crazy.
• 1:21:44
  They are playing some good ball right now.
• 1:21:48
  They're not great, but they're good enough and I think that's
• 1:21:52
  what's going to kind of get them over the edge here.
• 1:21:55
  Their front is going to eat that Florida, offensive lineup, I
• 1:21:58
  think that's going to be the difference.
• 1:22:00
  It absolutely is. I'm with you, we're agreeing on
• 1:22:03
  everything bonds not being able to play catch-up.
• 1:22:05
  But, you know, it's better to be right than to just be.
• 1:22:11
  A just to be contrary in, right? I can catch up and bowls these
• 1:22:17
  when we pick them all. Yeah, championship week 2, you
• 1:22:19
  can just go opposite every game on championship week and every
• 1:22:22
  game in the bowl and there we go.
• 1:22:27
  So I'm with you FSU. I think the the fire and Mullen
• 1:22:31
  I think that's at the time the timing it is and they're going
• 1:22:36
  through a complete rebuild, a lot of the guys that own that
• 1:22:39
  you know, coaching standpoint going to be.
• 1:22:40
  Coming back. So if Florida State's getting
• 1:22:43
  points, give me that alright Duke Miami.
• 1:22:49
  This game is going to be at Duke that's going to be.
• 1:22:53
  It's going to be a great visual site there 21's not enough.
• 1:22:59
  I don't know, I mean, I know my name is not great defensively
• 1:23:03
  but over under of 67 or 68, 68 you're telling me juice going to
• 1:23:08
  get to the mid-20s on. Them know, you know.
• 1:23:15
  Miami wins the game 49. 1421 is way, way, way, way too little
• 1:23:22
  too late. Yeah, 100% with that.
• 1:23:27
  I think this is going to be probably a four score game, so
• 1:23:33
  I'm going to go buy a me here as well.
• 1:23:35
  Duke is bad. Bad bad.
• 1:23:40
  All right. This is going to be an
• 1:23:41
  interesting Braun. The fighting Shane Beamers who
• 1:23:44
  got Bowl eligible. Last week the South Carolina
• 1:23:47
  clean. It's come off.
• 1:23:48
  Clemson with obviously their best game of the year.
• 1:23:52
  I'm going to make sure this line hasn't changed because this is a
• 1:23:54
  big line. Clemson is lane 11 and a half.
• 1:23:58
  The game is, and at South Carolina, the over-under is 43.
• 1:24:03
  Who are you taking here? Man, this is a tough one because
• 1:24:09
  change got them competitive Clemson's.
• 1:24:14
  Finally, playing some good football.
• 1:24:16
  Last couple weeks, at least as good as they've been this whole
• 1:24:20
  season since in Georgia. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:25
  So I'm going to go with, I'm gonna go with Gamecocks.
• 1:24:34
  All right. Ron's going with the cocks who's
• 1:24:39
  Clemson playing good, especially as good as that defense is.
• 1:24:44
  I am going to go Clemson. I think Clemson probably was
• 1:24:46
  about 14 Clemson's offense. Gotten a little bit of a pocket.
• 1:24:52
  Last week instance, what usually a solid week defense, we've seen
• 1:24:56
  holes it. Times.
• 1:24:57
  Yeah. All South Carolina just, you
• 1:25:01
  know, the one thing they don't do good is they give up close
• 1:25:07
  to, you know, over 170 rushing yards a game.
• 1:25:11
  I think that's going to be their struggles.
• 1:25:14
  They also are a team that is not good on third Downs.
• 1:25:18
  So I think Clemson wins because the South Carolina defense isn't
• 1:25:23
  as good as it needs to be, okay, you think that over unders about
• 1:25:26
  Outright. I think it's like a 2814 gay,
• 1:25:28
  but I'm going to go Clemson on this one.
• 1:25:31
  All right, battle for the Bluegrass State, UK versus
• 1:25:35
  Louisville, Louisville is laying three.
• 1:25:38
  I have no clue. Hallelujah, playing three.
• 1:25:41
  We've seen Kentucky compete with with Georgia.
• 1:25:44
  They've only got three losses. Louisville has been such an up
• 1:25:50
  and down team. I am going to go Kentucky in
• 1:25:52
  this game. Yeah, I'm right there with you.
• 1:25:57
  I think Louisville has been potent offensive ly, but I think
• 1:26:02
  Kentucky between the what they do with the, with their defense
• 1:26:09
  is going to make make that Louisville offense struggle.
• 1:26:11
  So, all right, this is one of those plastic ACC rivalry games
• 1:26:18
  and X. Brian, Pit versus Syracuse in
• 1:26:24
  the dome pit, Lane 13, Syracuse fighting for Bowl, eligibility.
• 1:26:29
  Piss locked up the coast of going to the ACC Championship
• 1:26:31
  Game pit. Can I say this?
• 1:26:34
  Yeah, I know, dude. He's been there seven years.
• 1:26:37
  This is his first chance at a ten win season ever there.
• 1:26:43
  That's wow. Is that what you want to be as a
• 1:26:46
  program? Do you want to beep it?
• 1:26:48
  No. Good to know.
• 1:26:51
  So are you laying? Are you taking?
• 1:27:00
  I'll take pit. I'll take B, I think that gets
• 1:27:05
  it done. Just how it's hard to tell with
• 1:27:10
  Syracuse what teams on the show up.
• 1:27:12
  Yeah, and if they can't get going with Sean Tucker, if he
• 1:27:15
  doesn't have a day in which he is satisfied with his
• 1:27:20
  performance, then it could be a struggle bus for them.
• 1:27:25
  It's very true. And I'm going to take pit as
• 1:27:28
  well. And it's not so much that
• 1:27:29
  they've got everything locked up and they, they're obviously the
• 1:27:32
  better team but this is kind of what if your pit you
• 1:27:37
  legitimately? We have a chance to win the ACC.
• 1:27:42
  Robbie, thank you. They literally have a chance to,
• 1:27:49
  you know, win the ACC. This team has not won a
• 1:27:55
  conference title in over 15 years.
• 1:27:59
  Excuse me. Over 10 years when they won the
• 1:28:02
  Big East is the Big East will slowly dissolve and it's been
• 1:28:04
  over 10 years. So I think in our doozy is going
• 1:28:09
  to say keep the hammer down. We need to go into whoever we're
• 1:28:11
  playing next week with a good mentality.
• 1:28:15
  Good. But menem.
• 1:28:16
  Yeah, we don't we don't need, we don't need to crap the bed
• 1:28:19
  against Syracuse and, you know, go to lose.
• 1:28:22
  So I'm going to take that as well.
• 1:28:24
  All right, Brian, let's jump out of conference here and let's go.
• 1:28:28
  Art with a Thursday night game. One of the most heated
• 1:28:31
  rivalries, in any state, the Egg Bowl Mississippi State vs Ole
• 1:28:36
  Miss Mississippi, state is a two point favorite in this game.
• 1:28:42
  Essentially, they are saying these teams are even in the
• 1:28:46
  cowbell. We need more cow bell is get me
• 1:28:50
  difference. That's what it sounds like, but
• 1:28:54
  I'm going with the the fighting Lane kiffin is here.
• 1:28:59
  I am too because I think Ole Miss is a better overall team on
• 1:29:03
  both sides of the ball. Now I will say this, the
• 1:29:06
  over-under 64, I think that's going to go way way way over.
• 1:29:13
  Yeah, the last game of the season, although both teams are
• 1:29:16
  Bowl eligible, they're playing for the a I think both these
• 1:29:20
  coaches are going to pull out all the stops.
• 1:29:25
  Give me the over beginni Ole Miss to win this.
• 1:29:27
  S game, give me the extra two points.
• 1:29:30
  Alright alright next rivalry game.
• 1:29:33
  There's a pretty big one to Oklahoma Oklahoma State in
• 1:29:37
  Stillwater. With the paddles it is bedlam.
• 1:29:41
  Okey state is in the championship game.
• 1:29:45
  Regardless. Oklahoma must win to get there
• 1:29:48
  to play Oklahoma State again. If Oklahoma State wins, they
• 1:29:51
  play Baylor, okey State, seven in the most recent college
• 1:29:56
  football, playoff They beat Oklahoma beat Baylor again and
• 1:30:00
  just one or two things happens in front of them.
• 1:30:02
  They sneak in. I think Oklahoma state is the
• 1:30:06
  better overall team. They're definitely the better
• 1:30:09
  defense so I'm going to stick on this, I'm gonna go Okie state.
• 1:30:14
  I'm gonna lay the Four Points. Just because they're fine for
• 1:30:21
  everything where Oklahoma so much has to happen.
• 1:30:25
  They have to win win, and have to jump multiple teams.
• 1:30:29
  And I don't think they can jump. Notre Dame.
• 1:30:31
  I think he's taken. Yeah, I think I'll put I'll put
• 1:30:37
  a key state in there as well. Oklahoma has just been so up and
• 1:30:41
  down and I think when they play good defense as they tend to
• 1:30:43
  struggle. So I think that's what's going
• 1:30:45
  to be the difference. Yeah, we saw that against Baylor
• 1:30:49
  very good solid defense. They struggled all game long.
• 1:30:53
  All right, Brian? So the biggest game this weekend
• 1:30:56
  is the de facto elimination game in the playoff.
• 1:30:59
  It's two versus five. It is the big game.
• 1:31:05
  Michigan, Ohio State in the big house. 12 noon, kick.
• 1:31:09
  I wish it was later. I really do.
• 1:31:12
  I know foxes pushing the big moon stuff but that game
• 1:31:15
  deserves to be a 3:30. To me, honestly, I know it's
• 1:31:20
  never been played at night, that game deserves to be an 8:00.
• 1:31:23
  Yeah, yeah. Ohio State after the throttling
• 1:31:30
  of Michigan, state is only laying 8 points.
• 1:31:33
  What do you think on this one, Braun?
• 1:31:36
  I'm going to take Michigan here. I think this is going to be it's
• 1:31:41
  going to be tight coming down to the wire.
• 1:31:43
  I'm not sure if Michigan is going to win outright, but I
• 1:31:46
  think this is going to come down to one possession.
• 1:31:48
  I think that Michigan team is going to do enough to slow down
• 1:31:53
  the the squad they're from from Ohio State.
• 1:31:57
  Those the triplets won't be able to just completely go off like
• 1:32:00
  they have all season. So Give me Michigan here.
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  Sorry if you feel me, do this. And look a little sad as a wide
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  open, jumper rimmed in and rimmed out.
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  Hokies down five right now I'm going to take Ohio State.
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  I am going to think this is going to be a more competitive
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  game that it has been the last few years with Michigan.
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  Their offense looks like I think they can keep up with Ohio State
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  Defense kind of becoming a modern defense.
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  Not as much man little Zone here and there but I think in in the
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  end Ohio, It's offense, is clicking and I think they win
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  the game somewhere like 40. So we're like 40 to 30 words a
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  fight to the end, but it's just a little bit more.
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  Like they put one late and put it away.
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  So I hope to get out of state. I'll say this out, that's the
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  one game. I'm hope I'm wrong about ice to
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  feel loved Jim Harbaugh from my Matters from my miners.
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  So, yeah. So, there goes that guys, we did
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  a disagree on a few Ames anything breaking Brandon body
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  entered the portal. The game is a five-point game.
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  He's got a bullshit call on somebody, I missed.
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  Your was, let's see who it is. Here.
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  Heave Oh, you're way ahead of me.
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  What five-point game the Hokies are in.
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  Definitely in this game. Can we just say with this game?
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  And just the way, the acc's looked Back down to three the
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  way this game is looked and as athletic as many talented
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  players, as Memphis has the Hokies being right there.
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  I think this feels really good things for the ACC schedule.
• 1:33:48
  Yeah, yeah. Especially considering the
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  length that Memphis plays with. We're not going to see very many
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  teams like this on the schedule. So I think that's one thing to
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  look at and they haven't really crushed Us in the, the
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  dribble-drive game either. So it's got really two things to
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  kind of hang your hat on because Really, that was doubt, that
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  should be the two things that we struggle with along with, with
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  rebounding, and rebounding hasn't been great.
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  But overall they've hung in there in the other categories.
• 1:34:25
  Very true. And I know they were talking
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  about Duran. Only has two points now, he only
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  has two points. So, you know, very interesting
• 1:34:33
  to see that. So folks, go enjoy the rest of
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  the game. We thank you for joining us
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