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Interview: Texans analyst John Harris · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Let's go behind enemy lines and get inside the head
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  Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans with John Harris Radio television, Houston
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  Speaker 1: Texans dot Com analysts, Texans Radio sideline reporter as well
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  Speaker 1: and a Jacksonville guy. Hi, John, how are you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing well, JP. You know when the nine oh four
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  Speaker 1: number popped up on my phone, I told Joe, well,
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  Speaker 1: it just it feels good to see that number again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss Jacksonville this year because we're going to London,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, at least Jacksonville is coming here, and
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  Speaker 1: it's always kind of a tough day to see the Jacks.
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  Speaker 1: On the other side, I will admit that is really
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  Speaker 1: really hard to see them over there because that was
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  Speaker 1: a team that, you know, the the Oilers had. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're leaving Houston and so I was living in Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: so Jacksonville became my team. So it's it's been tough
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  Speaker 1: to see them and and I think it'll be a
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  Speaker 1: tough ball game on Sunday, But looking forward to seeing
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  Speaker 1: Anne the less. Before we delve into the game too
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  Speaker 1: too much. What years were you the head coach at
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  Speaker 1: the Piscopal High School? Well, I got there and they
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  Speaker 1: finally at me the job in so I was. I
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  Speaker 1: left in two thousand one, so I had a job
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  Speaker 1: from two thousands and my last year in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: we made the playoffs for the first time in school history.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, Mark Ronnell is doing a great job
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  Speaker 1: with a piscbal, but he will not hold the honor
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  Speaker 1: of the first coach to get a fistbal to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: That wow, congratulations, John. Um we're excited for the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: and what they're gonna do this year. Um, let's get
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  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars Texans matchup, and you know, it seems
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  Speaker 1: like the Texans are in win now mode. If you
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  Speaker 1: look at those trades. What is the reaction in Houston
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  Speaker 1: to the Clowney deal and the Tunsil deal? And is
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  Speaker 1: it different outside the building than it is inside the building?
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  Speaker 1: It is. I think you're absolutely right, JP. I think
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  Speaker 1: it is a team that feels like, hell, let's win now.
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  Speaker 1: Let's win now. We've got J. J. Watt in year eight, No,
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  Speaker 1: year nine? Wow? Wow? Uh? Deannor Hopkins in year seven.
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  Speaker 1: You're Deshaw Watson's the third year guy. Now you it's
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  Speaker 1: it's win now time. You know you're not gonna sit.
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  Speaker 1: This window isn't gonna stay open for a significant period
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  Speaker 1: of time, so we gotta you gotta win now. And
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting you bring up the trade. The Connie trade
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  Speaker 1: was not well received at all, and for good reasons.
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  Speaker 1: People looked at Clowney and thought he was one of
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  Speaker 1: the most disruptive players in the NFL, and the Textans
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  Speaker 1: are giving up on him. And I say this to everybody. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that none of us seek,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that is something that because we don't
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  Speaker 1: see it. I think that's kind of what creates the confusion. Like,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, I see him on Sunday doing such
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  Speaker 1: good things. Not all the time, but in certain circumstances,
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  Speaker 1: he's the best player in the field, and then there
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  Speaker 1: are other times where he is not that guy. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that felt like the
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  Speaker 1: Texans got fleasd on adeal with Seattle. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna say that I'm one of them, but I was
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  Speaker 1: not happy that j D was leaving because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like j D would have been a really good piece
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  Speaker 1: on this defense. The other side of it is the
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  Speaker 1: Tunsil deal. Larrmy Tunsil is outstanding and I've been following
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  Speaker 1: up for a long time obviously Jacksonville connection to him
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  Speaker 1: being at Columbia High School, you know, just down the road,
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  Speaker 1: uh from Jacksonville. He is a guy that really changes
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  Speaker 1: what we can do on offense because he can handle
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  Speaker 1: some of the rushers like Yannick and got Way and
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Colas Campbell. He can handle those guys
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  Speaker 1: one on one. We didn't have anybody that walked into building.
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  Speaker 1: They can handle any of those guys. So Tunso gives
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  Speaker 1: us a shot to do some different things offensively. And
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  Speaker 1: I think we saw that really start on Monday night
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  Speaker 1: against the Saints, and we gotta be able to carry
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  Speaker 1: that over against a really good, physical and fast Jacksonville defense.
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  Speaker 1: John Harris with US from Texans Radio and Television. DeShawn
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  Speaker 1: Watson had some big throws in that game in New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans on Monday night, but he also took some big hits.
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  Speaker 1: And that's been the case. You mentioned the offensive line there,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't had the protection around him. How have you
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  Speaker 1: seen though Watson developed even with that pressure around him
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  Speaker 1: and taking hits and doing all that, It seemed like
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  Speaker 1: just a kind of a different looking guy on Monday Night.
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  Speaker 1: Well if he first of all, he's not coming off
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  Speaker 1: the h c L there. I think that's that's one
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  Speaker 1: thing you Last year he spent in the entire you're rehabbing.
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  Speaker 1: This year, he spent the off season really kind of
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  Speaker 1: diving back into into the film and watching himself and
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  Speaker 1: seeing things slow down. And I think he's driven a
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  Speaker 1: lot jp by that loss to the culture the playoff game. Look,
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  Speaker 1: nobody played well that day for us, nobody, but I
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  Speaker 1: think de Shaun took a lot of that on his
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  Speaker 1: shoulders and felt like he's gotta he's got to grow.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's the one thing in watching him
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  Speaker 1: and we have practices against the Packers and the Lions,
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  Speaker 1: and it just felt like things were happening quicker. He
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  Speaker 1: was seeing things quicker. He's been told a command at
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  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. He is in total command. He's
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  Speaker 1: walking up the line of scrimmage in an environment where
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't hear yourself think, and he's communicating, changing the
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  Speaker 1: mic point, what he's seeing, all the different looks. He's
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  Speaker 1: handling a lot of that. And he's working with Nick Martin,
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  Speaker 1: who just signed the extension uh the center for the Texans,
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  Speaker 1: and they're working together on things, but the game is
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  Speaker 1: I think slowing down for him a little bit. And look,
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  Speaker 1: some of the sacks of the sixty two last year
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  Speaker 1: and some of the six the other night, some of
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  Speaker 1: those are on are on the sewan because that's the
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  Speaker 1: way he plays. He wants that big shot, you know.
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  Speaker 1: He he wants the dollar, even though the nickel might
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  Speaker 1: be sitting out there, to go grab the nickel really easy,
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  Speaker 1: just stow that a little check down that's put the
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  Speaker 1: nickel in your pocket. He wants the dollar. He wants
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  Speaker 1: that big time money throwing the ball down the field.
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  Speaker 1: So you're gonna live with some of that. Where he's
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  Speaker 1: got to be smart, though, is to not take the
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  Speaker 1: big hit too. You know the play that he scored
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown on, you know, he gets kind of flipped up,
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  Speaker 1: lands on his backside and you're like, oh, man, Sean,
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  Speaker 1: look go on a three yard lines. We'll we'll take
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  Speaker 1: our chances with with what we got to pound it in.
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  Speaker 1: And he's just like, nope, I'm gonna put this thing
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  Speaker 1: in the end zone. Last year we had trouble scoring.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that we score and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go in. So there's kind of this risk reward game
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  Speaker 1: that you've got to play with the Seawan. And I
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  Speaker 1: think as he continues to play get more reps, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's gonna end up being fine and he's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna keep taking those chances. But I think he just
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  Speaker 1: kind of gotta swash swashbuckling mentality is that it's really
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  Speaker 1: hard to get out of his system. And I think
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  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien talks him, Sayce, look, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hold you back from that. I just want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that you're smart when you take kind of the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate risk as he did that run on fourth down
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  Speaker 1: against the Saint. But man, it pays off because I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you, with fifty seconds left in the game and
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  Speaker 1: we're seven five yards away with no time out, I'm
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  Speaker 1: still thinking we've got a shot, and it too plays
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  Speaker 1: bang bangs, we take the lead. So that's the power
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  Speaker 1: of the Shawn Watson for this organization. So you live
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  Speaker 1: with some of the holding the ball a little bit
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  Speaker 1: too long, taking some risks. You live with that because
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  Speaker 1: the reward is oh so beautiful. John Harris with us
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  Speaker 1: from Texans Radio. Final Thought here defensively. How many times
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  Speaker 1: in j J. Watts's career as he had a shutout
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  Speaker 1: on the stat sheet, that was the first one. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the first one in a hundred and five games.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that was the first one he was he
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  Speaker 1: was shut out now And it's interesting you bring it up, JP,
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  Speaker 1: because when you go back to watch the game, you
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  Speaker 1: see plays that he impacted. You know, the interception by
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  Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless was in large part because j J had
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  Speaker 1: looped up in the middle of the field, beat Eric
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  Speaker 1: McCoy the center and moved Drew Brees off the spot
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  Speaker 1: he has to throw. Merciless takes it off, so he
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  Speaker 1: had someplace to impact the game. But j J internalizes
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  Speaker 1: the stats, the sacks, those things because those are you
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  Speaker 1: can see that impact. So after the game he was frustrated,
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  Speaker 1: really frustrated. Yesterday at the podium, when he walked up
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  Speaker 1: to the podium, I was like, oh my gosh, he's
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  Speaker 1: still angry. He still had angry face on. So hopefully
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  Speaker 1: he well not for you guys, but for us, Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: he's able to unleash and that will never happen again.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, he's never had a game like that
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  Speaker 1: where he introduce the stats. I mean, he's never and
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  Speaker 1: I hope he never does it again. But he's got
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  Speaker 1: a lot to prove. I think to himself that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he can still do this in year nine against a
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  Speaker 1: pretty physical jack to the offensive line. So he knows
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  Speaker 1: the challenge. He also knows it's the home opener. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna go sack less in this one,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what happens. All right, John, always appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 1: Great talking to you. Enjoy the game, man. Thanks, you
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  Speaker 1: appreciate your brother