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75 Different Clans of Sasquatch? Barb Horn Hartman’s Mysterious Encounters in Washington · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, episode seventy five of the regular program. So
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  Speaker 1: This is episode seventy five, So this is my first
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  Speaker 1: as she's she bought some property and in excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: Washington State. She's originally from Pennsylvania. I've had her own
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  Speaker 1: before and she started she's always been interested in sasquatch,
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  Speaker 1: so that's really interesting that her life, you know, led
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  Speaker 1: her to the Pacific Northwest, and now she's talking about
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  Speaker 1: having some clans on their property, multiple different types or
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  Speaker 1: at least different colorations in the very least. But what
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  Speaker 1: she is saying is that the actually look different. Some
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  Speaker 1: are large and bulky, some even look a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more Native American, a little more human nature.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite quite fascinating, fascinating. She also bought another piece
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  Speaker 1: of property that's somewhere's father up on the Olympic Peninsula
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  Speaker 1: and she's also getting into some things up there, and
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  Speaker 1: she is very enthusiastic about it. She she shies to
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  Speaker 1: show a lot of respect, uh, towards the forest people
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  Speaker 1: or the clams, and she says there's multiple She has
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  Speaker 1: a clan in her area and her neck of the woods,
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  Speaker 1: and then like right down the road a mile or
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  Speaker 1: something like that, another friend of hers is having the
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  Speaker 1: same situation, and uh, it's been she's uh, it's been.
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  Speaker 1: It's welcome to the show, Barb Hartman.
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  Speaker 3: Hie, Tom, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Wellie, thanks for being on. I dropped the ball the
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  Speaker 1: first time we try to record, and then the second
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  Speaker 1: time you kind of half dropped the ball. You're it
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  Speaker 1: was not really your that was not really your fault.
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  Speaker 1: Things happen in life, but we both so this is
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  Speaker 1: the third time around, third.
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  Speaker 3: Time, charm I felt so terrible. Yeah, last week because
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  Speaker 3: we well, I'm at our We bought a short term
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  Speaker 3: rental house. I mean, I want to stay here as
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  Speaker 3: much as possible. It's at the beach at Pacific Beach
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  Speaker 3: on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State, and we took
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  Speaker 3: possession about a month ago and we're just doing something,
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  Speaker 3: you know before again, putting it on the short term market.
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  Speaker 3: But it's been crazy out here too, with activity, which
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's what people say that the Olympic Peninsula
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  Speaker 3: is full of that of Sasquatch, and I have to agree.
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  Speaker 3: But what happened, yeah, last week we have isn't it terrible?
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  Speaker 3: Like things these days? And nothing? They don't build anything
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  Speaker 3: like they used to. Brand new washer and dryer, and
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  Speaker 3: the washer has been leaking since the day it was installed,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, the orangey companies back and forth, and
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  Speaker 3: now the manufacturer is like, well, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: this is an installation problem. It could be you know
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  Speaker 3: on you like, we've had this brand new washer and
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  Speaker 3: dryer for a month. So that was what I was
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  Speaker 3: kind of you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It made me feel a little better
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  Speaker 1: because I just, yeah, completely forgot. I was just kind
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  Speaker 1: of chilling my hammock back here and I was working whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and I was gotten. You were like, I'm waiting for you.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do what? What are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Always just a recording today, all right, so you know
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  Speaker 1: it happens once in a while. I'm not mister perfect.
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  Speaker 1: And I was super sorry but doing the you know,
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  Speaker 1: things happening here and I didn't feel half as bad.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's okay now we're here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, Tom. I was like, this is just
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  Speaker 3: a podcast, Okay, it's not like, oh, I'm here to
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  Speaker 3: perform you know, life saving surgery writer would true.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, I try to
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  Speaker 1: be I try to be that guy. I try. We
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  Speaker 1: always try, you know, where is your bond? All that
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing. It's just sometimes, you know, life gets
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  Speaker 1: away from you. But you're here now, and uh, barb, like,
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  Speaker 1: tell everybody about yourself. You know, you're just we already
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  Speaker 1: see your bubbly personality. Uh tell us about yourself, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you know what got you into what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: And where we can find you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, my name is Barr Apartment. Hence you know.
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  Speaker 3: I am a mom, grand wife. I live in Washington
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  Speaker 3: State now. We moved out to Washington State in twenty thirteen.
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  Speaker 3: I was born and raised in Pennsylvania and lived kind
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  Speaker 3: of all over the country with my my husband's jobs.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I feel so weird because I'm sitting so
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  Speaker 3: far away from the camera, but I don't have a
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  Speaker 3: desk care so sorry. My ADHD is like so uh.
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  Speaker 3: I've always been I've always been into for.
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  Speaker 1: The audio listeners there hands of moving around as if
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  Speaker 1: there she was being attacked by a.
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  Speaker 3: High It's just it's just me. But I I've been
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  Speaker 3: involved in sasquatch or I mean interested in this subject bigfoot, sasquatch, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: from the time I was a little girl. I remember
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  Speaker 3: my dad's showing me the Patterson Gimlin film, and I
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  Speaker 3: remember we watched, you know, we watched some like movies,
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  Speaker 3: the Legend of Boggy Creek, which was kind of you
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  Speaker 3: know at the time, it was kind of funny, like
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  Speaker 3: it's terrible because I know what the people are going through,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, and just always found it interesting and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: right right when we moved out prior to moving out
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  Speaker 3: to Washington State, my son, because it's been Matt Barbes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Mom's into sat into bigfoot. Uh, And he said, Mom,
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  Speaker 3: do you realize that you're moving to the county of
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  Speaker 3: that has the most sightings in all of the nation
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  Speaker 3: at the time. I believe it still holds that title,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm not sure. And this is, you know, according
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  Speaker 3: to B F R. O. I believe stats. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what you know. So anyway, as much as I
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  Speaker 3: thought I was like, that's that's pretty cool, never thought
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  Speaker 3: that I would have them living a around us, really didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't understand them. I thought I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: more that they were more like like not one big Foot,
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  Speaker 3: but just much more solitary creatures. I don't even thought
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  Speaker 3: they were just kind of like honestly just big like apes,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And that's not at all what not at
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  Speaker 3: all what they are there. And so fast forward, so
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  Speaker 3: we buy a house right on the Olympic no sorry,
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  Speaker 3: bought a house right on the Puget Sound and that's
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  Speaker 3: where we started to have Maybe about six months after
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  Speaker 3: we moved in, which was in twenty seventeen, we started
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  Speaker 3: to have kind of evidence. Okay, the first that we had,
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  Speaker 3: which I'm much more into the subject than my husband. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: but I've made him and he doesn't you know, he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't hate it. Thinks it's interesting. Over the years, I've
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  Speaker 3: made him watch all the documentaries and what not, so
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  Speaker 3: he kind of knows what signs to look for. So
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  Speaker 3: our house sits on a steep a very steep lot,
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  Speaker 3: and so and the back of it kind of sits out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on these like big pillars, and what he
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  Speaker 3: had noticed it was April twenty uh eighteen. He had
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  Speaker 3: noticed big footprints under the house in in there's like
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  Speaker 3: an area that's just like dirt and gravel like yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like the a deck and and and actually part of
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  Speaker 3: the house like comes out well actually okay, yeah, yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and so and there's kind of steps that go go
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  Speaker 3: down and that's where he saw. There was one full
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  Speaker 3: print and then there were two partial prints. They were
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  Speaker 3: about seven seventeen eighteen inches long. Couldn't tell exactly for sure,
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  Speaker 3: because but but I mean very it was very very clear.
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  Speaker 3: He grew up on a farm and has you know,
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  Speaker 3: been a lifelong hunter. And he was like, this is
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  Speaker 3: not anything like I've ever seen, right, so, uh, he said,
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  Speaker 3: he walked by them like three times, and he's like,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta tell Barb about this.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting. I think it's very interesting,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, you know, growing up watching the Bulgy
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  Speaker 1: Creek movie and then and then the uh, the Patterson
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  Speaker 1: Gimlin film, always being interested in it, and then kind
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  Speaker 1: of your life kind of lends its way to what
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  Speaker 1: you're interested in and now and I think you're probably
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  Speaker 1: in your fifties. Please don't smack me through the screen.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm out of my fifties. I was sixty in April.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, well, congratulations, see you, Barbi. You're a very
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  Speaker 1: good one, very age.
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  Speaker 3: You're walcome he one, yes, you know, and it's just
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  Speaker 3: a number whatever, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but that that tell that tell that
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  Speaker 1: to any woman and they and not to agree with me,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, I just think it's very interesting that, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your interest in your deep down you know,
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  Speaker 1: the deep down thing that you had inside of you
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  Speaker 1: kind of lended itself to later parts in your life
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  Speaker 1: and now it's happening to you. It's I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's you know, by design. I don't know where
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  Speaker 1: you lie religiously or wherever. It's just it's just an
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  Speaker 1: interesting thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm I mean, I'm a Christian, you know, Christ,
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  Speaker 3: follower of Christ, but other than you know, biblical believer.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't I agree with you. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what what is this? Something that.
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Some people say that you're like marked, but I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not in a bad do you know what I'm saying? Like,
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's if that's the case,
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  Speaker 3: but it's it's literally, it's just something that I've always been.
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  Speaker 3: It's the most I'd say that consistently through my life,
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  Speaker 3: the thing that I've most been interested in. And really
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  Speaker 3: when we think about it, you know, for not Well,
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  Speaker 3: the great thing about being in this community is I
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  Speaker 3: found a lot of women that think like me, because
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you there's not many friends that I've had
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  Speaker 3: that believe or even find it like interesting, Like why
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  Speaker 3: would you that's terrifying? Why would you even want to
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  Speaker 3: think about that? Like why would you even want to
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  Speaker 3: hear that or see that or watch anything about it?
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  Speaker 3: That's what most people, you know. But so anyway, so
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  Speaker 3: you know, so fast forward so he finds these huge footprints.
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  Speaker 3: I took some photos. It was pretty exciting. We also
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  Speaker 3: I also had a friend of mine, her husband looked
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  Speaker 3: at it because look at the prince, because because you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's okay, yes, he's you know, my husband is a
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  Speaker 3: you know, noses noses, animal prints and all that. But hey,
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  Speaker 3: we were new to the area. What is there. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: there's something there that you know, leads giant human looking
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  Speaker 3: footprints if we're not aware.
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  Speaker 1: Of, and maybe is full of like you know, in
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  Speaker 1: sanely large basketball players around in your backyard.
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  Speaker 3: Right right exactly. Yeah, I don't know. And but he
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  Speaker 3: said the same thing. He said, definitely not a bear print.
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  Speaker 3: And as a matter of fact, he had seen one
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  Speaker 3: in the Cascades. So he's like, I got to say,
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  Speaker 3: you got a big foot And he's like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and we have them in this area. So I was like, okay.
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  Speaker 3: But after that, well, and also within a few days
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  Speaker 3: of that, there were are like, like I said, we
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  Speaker 3: live on the Puget Sound, so very rocky beach and
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  Speaker 3: there's big, you know, lots of rocks, big, some big,
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  Speaker 3: big boulders, and we found that there were these these big,
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  Speaker 3: big rocks that were kind of overturned. Now that's not
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  Speaker 3: something that a human that's not something humans can do.
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  Speaker 3: You literally need like some kind of equipment to do that,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And there were so there were two or
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  Speaker 3: three and we thought, wow, you know, maybe this is
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  Speaker 3: just some why I don't know, wild tides. But then
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  Speaker 3: it just again it was in the same set.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'd imagine looking back after what you've experienced now
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  Speaker 1: and looking back like you're starting to put pieces of
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  Speaker 1: the puzzle together and you're like, well, that made no
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  Speaker 1: sense that we didn't. It makes a lot of sense,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you go back through things, sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: you know where you didn't pay attention. Now those things
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  Speaker 1: come to the forefront, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And it makes you wonder what
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  Speaker 3: other things have been happening, you know that you just
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  Speaker 3: don't really pay any attention to the house itself. That's
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of interesting because we live on a very
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  Speaker 3: rural peninsula that is within the Puget Sound, and so
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  Speaker 3: we have one set of neighbors. There's so many acres
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  Speaker 3: of woods and farm around us, and it's just like
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  Speaker 3: the perfect place, you know, the perfect perfect place for them.
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  Speaker 3: You got the salt water and the shellfish and and
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  Speaker 3: and you know salmon, and you have there's creeks running
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  Speaker 3: through there. It's just literally the perfect place. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: again in hindsight, it's like wow, if but I was
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  Speaker 3: also I'm also it was also very surprised, like the
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  Speaker 3: the amount of a clan that can live in one area.
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  Speaker 3: But again, I just think that there's it definitely can
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  Speaker 3: support them, you know, and I think that they I
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  Speaker 3: don't I think that some of them not really migrate,
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  Speaker 3: like they go back and forth, you know, but I
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  Speaker 3: think the majority stays there. And you know, with the
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  Speaker 3: with the babies and stuff. If it's because if it's
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  Speaker 3: a safe aya like I've it's in the same house
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  Speaker 3: I've had, you know, deer when they have the little
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  Speaker 3: ones and I've had them high you know, put the
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  Speaker 3: little ones in our yard and go away for the
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  Speaker 3: day and whatever the moms do, you know. And so
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  Speaker 3: I I'm like happy that I created that kind of
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  Speaker 3: an environment. And I think that that's that the Sasquatch
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  Speaker 3: kind of you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, have realized that so like a nurturing like a
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  Speaker 1: like a nursery for you said the word clan, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you? I mean, you know there's a clan
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  Speaker 1: is like you know, a synonym for family group. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think do you think there's like do you think
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  Speaker 1: there's just one or is there maybe multipoard area? What
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  Speaker 1: do you what do you think is going on?
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  Speaker 3: From what I understand and that I say clan because
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  Speaker 3: I've been told that that's what they refer to themselves as,
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  Speaker 3: is a clan. I was also, this is kind of interesting,
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  Speaker 3: and this is kind of fast forwarding. But again, I
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  Speaker 3: had a message one time I was on it I
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  Speaker 3: forget what show I was on, and a guy that
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  Speaker 3: I know had messaged me and he's like, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: want you to know that that the clan that that
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  Speaker 3: your clan is not happy with the terminology that you're using.
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  Speaker 3: You're calling him the alpha male, and he actually wants
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  Speaker 3: to be known as the clan elder. I'm like, whoa, Okay.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting, Like I'm starting to get in
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: connection slowly but surely through with you know, Native American
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: people's and they just one lady. I don't want to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: put her name out there. Well I eventually will. She
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: calls our Northwest scalters. I can't. I got it, and
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: this she's like the last of her kind, and she
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: has like a seven month ritual is supposed to been
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: a year where she went out of the woods and
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: she said, there's like all there's five different kinds of
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a woman, black eyes with this and the ones with
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: the white eyes or that, and she's just it's a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: technology thing that we're working out, and I'm I'm just
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: going to go from you know, because you know, you
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: being on podcast, me hosting a show, you get this
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: terminology through people. But basically there when I'm starting with
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: this this woman, I'm going to clean the slate and
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: we're going to go from the beginning because I there's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so much that they have to offer, especially this lady.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: She's saying that, you know, like the Navaho she's like
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in central Oregon, and the people from other you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: tribes from other parts of the country, other people's nations
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: are like, hey, you're starting to fill in some of
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the holes of some of the stuff that we lost,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and so I'm really looking forward to that. And i'd
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: imagine you know that's happening to you as well. As
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you go along, people are going to say, you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I've had more experience, or I've had more time, you
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, because you're relatively with eight years
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: something like this for you.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well so twenty eighteen, yeah, I guess. So wow.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I think since twenty twenty two, it's been full force.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Since then, it's.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Been okay, tell me, tell me what's been.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Happening freaking day. So in twenty twenty two, and prior
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: to this, I had heard them, and so I knew that, Okay,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: they are in fact a thing. You know. We were
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: camping in southwest Washington State in the Gifford Pinchot National
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Force and I was awaken overnight and real the sound.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I just didn't wasn't didn't have the ability to to
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: record them that night, and I didn't. I don't really
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: know if I would have because I was so terrified.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I was so terrified to call attention to ourselves. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: just wanted to lay there and just like just like,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, what am I gonna do?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: You know? They were they were making, they were they
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: were calling or how.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: It was like screaming. I mean, I've heard I've heard
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: recordings now, uh sounded very human, but humans can't typically
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: like hold that their voices that long, you know, just
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: out and so I well, it doesn't you know, unless
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: they unless I can't really say call blasting because I
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: feel like there was about seven or eight of them
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: at the time, and they were on both sides of me,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: like as if I'm laying in the in the sleeping
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: bag and they're on both sides of me, but further away,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: probably maybe a mile away, half mile, So it wasn't
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: super close. Oh my, I would have died if they
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: were because it was very scary, very scary sounding. So,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: but that was in twenty nineteen. Then in I didn't
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: really have anything until twenty twenty two, and we had
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: cleared out an area alongside our house which is that
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: is just a complete like a forest line, and it
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: was it was in late August early September. We start
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: cleaning out because it was like wildfire season, you know. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: We've been very blessed that we haven't had anything.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Like that in California. Clean your forest.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Right exactly, No, you're absolutely right, you're right. Yeah. So
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: that's what we did. And within days my husband goes, well, look,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I think your friends, because he had heard about tree breaks.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: It's like, I think your friends left your little sign
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: or something. We look out the window and about fifteen
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: feet up there is a it's a perfectly healthy tree
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: that there's a break of, like I said, about fifteen
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: feet up of a big branch. But it's also like twisted,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, but we didn't you know, we didn't
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: have any storms, any wind whatever. But again that's not okay,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: that doesn't mean, oh my gosh, we have sasquatched. Just
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: another sign. Right. Then, within about seven to ten days,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: we look out and there is another tree that's about
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: ten feet away i'd say, from the first tree. And
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: this is a smaller tree now and it is it's
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: pulled to the side, and it's like the first tree
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: that fell is now on top of it, like has
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: it pinned down. So it's creating this perfect X. Okay,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And I know we both we knew like that tree
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: was not it when when that first branch fell, that
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: tree had nothing to do with it at all.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: So interesting because you know, I'm a good friend of mine,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Harley Owens. I'm sure you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, he
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: gets an incredible sign, you know, and he'll go out
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: there and the difference is that you know, he doesn't
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: live there, so you get to see like the before
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and the after. So you're like, well, that wasn't like
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that yesterday when I was having barbecues with with Bob.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I know, you're right, yeah, yes, and then and then
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you know today it's not that way. I know that
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Bob wasn't out there with his tree drum or what
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: what's going on? That's that's that's very that's a very
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I would say, just a very cool coincidence that you
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: get to see the before and after.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think so, Yeah, I really think so.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: But it's also a case where like if people, you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: they're not paying attention, it's they're not even going to
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: know that it's something potentially okay. So at this point though,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I because I talked to some friends you know, on
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: in the that our research and and I we just
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: kind of figured we had like a situation. Well this
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: is even prior to that where one of uh one
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: of the like it's a bank that has these uh
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: plants that form this like kind of a mat for
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: erosion control, and they have roots that go way down.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to dig them up, it's hard
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: to break the roots. Well, this whole like side of
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the of this of this hill was torn up. And
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: there again that's completely overnight. And it was also just
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: outside of the of the perimeter of cameras that we
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: have because we have a perimeter of cameras which we've
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: had for shortly after you know, we moved in around
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: the house. I want to see if there's any entrance points,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: you know, for somebody that that's gonna try, you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: And so we yeah, like with safety. So we caught
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: a lot, We've caught a lot of wildlife on those
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: but and really it's it's perfect because of the way,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: because it is so steep and there's only I mean,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: there's not a lot of ways down to our backyard.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: So with that being said, I don't know how something
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: that could have torn that hillside up, how did it
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: get how did it get there?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But again that's not unlet's saying, I don't believe do
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you have a because I lived in Germany and Europe
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and we have a we had I don't live there
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: no more wild boars and they would kind of root
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: up the ground and rip it up, but they would
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: never they would go down maybe I don't know three
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: inches and that's about it. That's about it. They don't
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: go any farther.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and then think, I know the planet you're
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: talking about, this is different.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely don't have wild boars. It's yeah, the
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: plant is it's called bearberry or kinnect. And so I
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: found since then though, I found that the Sasquatch used
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the roots for medicinal purposes. I mean that Native Americans
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: did here. So it would make perfect sense because it's like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: why are they digging up the hillside, what's going on?
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: But so again at this point, I'm like, all right,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I've been talking to researchers and you know, friends of mine,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: and they're like, here's what you need, here's what you
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: need to do. You need to really start to document
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: this if it's something that you want to try to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: prove or disprove, you know, debunk. And so I was
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: working with Mike Scott, who is a he is a podcast.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: We had a podcast Understanding Bigfoot, good friend of mine,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: great researcher, and he said he was kind of giving
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: me tips. He's like, now that you have this X.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: He said what he thought was that they had built
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: a blind because I had a perfect view. We had
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: a perfect view now back into the forest, which I'm like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: this is so cool. There's a grove of aspa trees
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: and I can watch that. Well, that was quickly, you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: kind of closed off with that with that X like, no,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: you're not so so what. Mike had given me some
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: tips and what to do, and there was an area
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: that that is just a very short walk short hike
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: from house and that I'm like, I'm going to go
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: in there. I think that's where they're at. I've seen
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: some weird tree structures. I've seen tepees, I've seen a
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: little wood igloo, uh sort of a thing. I'm going
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: to go in there and I'm actually going to start
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to video and kind of document. And so Mike said, no,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: don't don't have your don't have a video going. You
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: probably shouldn't even take your phone, but if you do,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: just don't even have a because he said, you're not
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: going to get anything if you have your phone going.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: So I thought, well, okay, I think I'm going to
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: have my phone going anyway, because I was really I
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: didn't want to see I didn't want to see a
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: SAS spot at that point. I did not want to
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I was like I'm too scared of that. I want
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: to go in and walk around and see what I
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: can see and document and take some pictures and take
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: some video. So I thought what I would do is
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I would put my phone just hanging around my neck
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: and a lanyard, plastic lanyard, and see what, just document,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: you know, just I mean, it's it's there, going whatever.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: And so after about an hour, I was saving this
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: one area, which is where this littleig wood igloo kind
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: of thing is. I thought I'd save that for the end,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: so I did. I was in there about an hour
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: when I get I'm about fifteen feet from this wood
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: igloo thing, and I hear this a double grunt, like
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: you could feel it like in here, I could feel
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: this grunt. And so I'm like, oh my gosh, what
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: what the heck was that? I mean, I I don't
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: know what else it could have been except that. I mean,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I wasn't sure, but I thought, listen, I'm not going
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: to turn around and run. So I kind of backed up,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: you know, slowly, because if it is some sort of
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: a predator, so I back up and then turn around
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: like and I thought to myself, what the what some
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: researchers would say, would just go further, but no, that's
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: not what I was going to do. I was not
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: going to do that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't trust me. I'm with you.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I'd be back and I'll be doing the moon. Worry
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I'll tell and I'll tell you what to this day,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I still I still research that way because I and
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I feel that's I've been more successful doing that. Like yeah,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: maybe you know, you go and you get whatever, some
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: great picture, some recording, but how much have I, you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: like ticked off?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Right, It's a matter of respect, I imagine.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Exactly, And that's what I that's so so I ended
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: up I uh right, all right. So after that, you know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: turning around, then I get hit with I guess, which
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about infrasound or people getting like
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: zapped or anything like that. But so hearing that walk
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: about fifteen steps back, turn around, and I'm like looking
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: over my shoulder, just gonna walk slowly back to my house,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: and then I'm hit with this wave of like vertigo,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: extreme dizziness, just like I felt like I'm almost like
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I was in a dream. It was like it just
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: a little bit sick to my stomach, but it was
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: just more like just so disoriented, and I thought, what
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: is happening? And I was thinking that am I having
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: like a am I having a heart attack or a
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: stroke or something? What's going on? And then as quickly
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: as it came over me me, I'm gonna I don't know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: thirty seconds to a minute. I mean, I know it
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: was a while, but it wasn't a long while. The
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: feeling just left. It was like it's gone, and I'm like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: oh wow.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And this is as you're walking. This is as you're
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: walking away getting further away.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I'm yes, yes, But when I didn't realize at the time,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and this is the weird thing is I wasn't walking
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: toward my house. I'm walking toward away from my house
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: and toward this like deep.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Ravine, okay, And I.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Had no explanation for what the heck was I doing.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: But anyway, thank god it you know, I mean, that
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: feeling left and I was like, oh my gosh, what
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: am I doing?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You know what? I just thought of barbaras that could be.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: It's just very just it's just you know, we try
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: to tie ends up here. And like I was thinking,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: like you know, could that be explained some of the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: four one one you know, where people are getting lost
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and disoriented and woulds and then you know, end up
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in a ravine.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: For absolutely absolutely.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: You know, they get disoriented and it happens for a
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: while and there you know, maybe it happens for them
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: for ten minutes. The next thing you know, they're in trouble.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you, I don't know, I don't know
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: if I I don't know what would have happened if
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: that would have continued. Couldn't tell you, you know, so thankful,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: thank God whatever that. No, I mean definitely that I
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: came out of that. But then so I corrected my
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: course and I'm like, okay, I'm going to walk back
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: because I'm going this way and my house is that way,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: so I'm going to walk back. Then as soon, almost
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: as soon as I did that though this way, this
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: wave of that that feeling came over me again, and
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh crap. And then I'm thinking, all right,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: this is probably a stroke or a heart attack or something.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm feeling like I'm going to make me pass out,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: you know, And I'm like, oh god, my family knew
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: what that I was in there what I was doing,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: and I said, yeah, like if yeah, like if I don't,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: And it was a Sunday afternoon, so kind of everybody
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: was home, and I said, you know, if I don't
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: come out in like a couple hours, come and find me.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: But I thought, you know, I could be laying in
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: there for how long before anybody realizes? And I didn't think,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: like look at my phone, try to I mean, I
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: was way too disoriented. I can't even describe to you
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: how like out of it I was. And I remember thinking, okay,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: we have an outbuilding, and I thought, I'm going to
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: look at the roofline of that outbuilding and I'm just
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: going to follow that and walk toward it, and that's
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: going to get me a property. Like that's how That's
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: how like disoriented and bad this was. So I'm like, okay,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I'm getting closer and closer, and immediately when I got
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: to the property line, which is like and then our driveway,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: that feeling was gone, completely gone, like whatever whatever it was,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: it was like we don't know.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: It was like we don't know who you are, lady.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: This is we're here long before you and kind of like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: you know, just shoeshoo like you know.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: And I didn't, and it was I was so so
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: then I'm like, oh wait again, I didn't know anything
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: about I didn't know anything about about about potential and
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: you know, getting zapp in for sad anything, I didn't
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: know anything about that. And so I was kind of
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: excited to go and tell my family about, you know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: about hearing one. And then I'm like, oh, whoa, I
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: had my phone going. So I look down, but my
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: phone's dead. I'm like, okay, I don't know, go in. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And it shouldn't have died. It was like full battery, right,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: it should have lasted. I don't even know how long
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: does it does a you know, does an iPhone wan? Nothing?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: And it was full battery nothing. I wasn't doing anything
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: except I mean I did have well, I did have
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: the video going, okay, so whatever that would be. But
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: it's gonna last longer than an hour definitely, right. So
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: so I go in and I'm telling them what's going on,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: and they're kind of like, oh, you heard something grow
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: oh you know, all right? Like yeah, then when the
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: phone when when it comes back up, I freaking caught it.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I caught it on on on video and I got
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: the audio of this, and so could possible I will yeah, sure, yeah, yeah.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can put that at the end of this episode.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: You yeah, definitely, and I even and I'll tell you
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: the weird I've learned. I learned a lot about bigfoot
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: audio also because of this, because I don't I don't know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about you know, like audio and
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: all this stuff. I didn't I didn't know any I
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: still don't really know that much about it. But what
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I believe now is that so I've had four people
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: that are really adept at handling audio sound, you know,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: have tried to isolate and amplify these two grunts, and
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: they have not been able to do it because there's
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: leaves crunching. I'm I at one point was humming. It's
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: just something I do unconscious, you know, I know, I know,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: like wow, great, like.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: You thought you were remember the four tops once you
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: got zapped.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: They're like shut up, quiet the woods, And it was
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: like it was also like it's just like like three notes,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: like hmmm. And it was so funny because my daughter
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and resume where you're visiting this last weekend, and I'm
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: like she did them, So I don't know where I
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: go does it? It's kind of like I don't know. Yeah. So,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: so what I think is because of there and you
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: can your you can do whatever you want as far
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: as with it, you know, like with with it, try
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: to amplify it. Whatever you want to do. You know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: that's fine. They were not able to. So I think
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and this is what you know they've concurred, is that
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: you know, when you look at it at a spectrogram
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: or spectrogram whatever of sasquatch vocals, there is such a
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: wide you know, I mean we're talking like like this
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: versus you know, human other animal.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Sounds the range, right, I think that within that, if
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: you remove some noise, you're gonna you're definitely gonna corrupt
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: like the whole crispness of.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Vocal. I just believe it. On the way it is.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It's it's audible.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: You can hear it correct, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: yeah'll definitely I'll send it to you. So that was
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: you know what it is. So I have to say
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: before yeah, before I go any further. The last season
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: of what is it Finding No Expedition Bigfoot? Right? Is
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: that that that's the new one, right, with right expedition whatever.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: You got me, I don't know.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I think so you can, can you creedit this out?
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: That's what I love about doing shows that aren't live
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: and I know maybe you don't, but yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I enjoy this.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. And I because they were
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: in Washington State the last like I think it was
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: the last season, and I'm not I mean I watched it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not an avid you know, like follower, but people
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: were saying, oh my god, although I have although I
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: have watched it, but I people were saying, oh, you
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: gotta watch it because it's like Washington State, you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: they're all in Washington State in your area. I'm like,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: that's cool. One of the guys got a recording that
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: is I mean, it is identical to the that I got.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like wow, And he got that, and then there
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: was a response to that, so I think it's a
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: it's there. Like it wasn't so much a warning. It
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: was more like we're here, Okay. Then like I'm here,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: so a little bit of you know, like don't come,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I'm in I'm behind these we're behind these bushes, so
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: just so you know, and then me, uh, you know,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: trying to make sure that I got out of there
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: because they didn't know what exactly my intention was, is
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: what I what I But I definitely think that they
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: stopped whatever it was that they were doing in order
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: for me to correct my course. So I because I
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: don't know what else why that else that would be
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: that I didn't just you know, that it stopped. And
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: also that it that right when I got to the
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: property line, that it stopped. Uh. And I do think
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: remember I said, like I was thinking in my mind,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: like I shouldn't be doing this. I'm such a coward.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I need to go back in there. And if they
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: if they can know what we're what we have on
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: our minds, they could have been like, oh, no, you're not.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Again, who knows. But that's just so.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's some there's some knowing,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: which you know now looking back, you know there's something,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: there's something, there's a line of thought there. I understand.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I think that maybe I don't know
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: it was it was. It was a while after maybe
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: it will when I say a while, maybe a good
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: like week or two after. And then I was like, oh,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you know what I said to somebody. I think it
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: was Mike Scott because I'm thinking of like a several researcher.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I was talking to researchers I was talking to around
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: that time, and I said, oh yeah, I said, I
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: got I I forgot to tell you, like this weird
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: thing happened. And I explained. He's like, oh my gosh,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: you were hit with what people say is infrasound or
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: then other people say you get like zapped by them,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: and that's exactly like what has been reported. But again
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I never heard of that. I had
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: heard of people getting maybe like sick in their presence
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: or you know, but not the not why because mine
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: was not something It was incapacitating, but not enough that
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: it kept me. You know, I didn't fall on the
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: ground and it completely left me and I had no
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: residual type of symptoms.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: In some people, Yeah, it can happen. I've heard many
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: times where people, you know, I was talking to Tim
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: from a high Bigfoot researcher and he was, yeah, yeah,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Tim geheart, great guy he was. He was telling me
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: like he was up there and he had a group
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: of I think it was like nine people and four
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: men and five women and just two men, got it?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: See?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so strange, it's so it's it's it's sometimes there's
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason, and sometimes it makes sense. Sometimes
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. But being you know what I'm
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: kind of like gleaning from this conversation is like you
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: don't see them as an a You see them more
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: like a as a like a like like different type
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of like species of people.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think that they're that they're part of
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: human I kind of subscribe to the DNA project, you
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: know that, uh that uh doctor Ketchum, doctor melbu Ketcham
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: because I don't know what else. I don't know what
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: else to to to say, because there definitely is this
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: is not just an animal. It's not just a big
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: you know ape. I've seen so since then I have
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: seen I really and this is like I've seen so many.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I can't even tell you how many. I've lost count
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: with how many I've seen. They're they're all different looking.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I mean you have like categories of them, you know,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: But I but at my house that there's very human
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: looking ones. There's ones that almost have like a like
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: a lion face kind of, but the rest only like
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: in their in the nose, it's kind of like kind
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: of in their lips, you know, almost like a like
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: a cleft lip. And there's some that look like in
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: a kind of more like an orangutan or like a
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: like a silver backed gorilla. There it just runs. And
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: then there's also some have very Native American features, like
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: very human features, and so yeah, and so the the
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: first one that I think I saw was and I
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: don't know if he was I don't even know if
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: he was a tree, if he was like a sasquatch
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: or like I still don't know where like you know,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: they say like elemental and all the reason why he
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: seemed like he was part of the tree. And then.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Rember yeah, yeah.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And then he and it's like, oh whoa, and you
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: were kind of like, yeah, like a big tree, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: he was kind of like tucked down in And then
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: when I saw where he was actually sitting, I'm like, oh, whoa.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: He's a lot bigger than what I thought he was.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: And there is an area that he was kind of
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: tucked in there, but his face looked his face was
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: completely Native American features, like, but the skin was like
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: tree bark. And that's why I thought, wait, am I
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: just you know, I mean, you know, seeing something. But
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: it was. And then when I saw him at like
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: after a few days later, a week later, then I
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: saw that he had this like really like beautiful, like
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: silky black hair was like parted parted in the middle
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: and kind of like went down to his shoulders.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: It was like, okay, wow, So if you had a
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: categorize how many how many different types are you seeing
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you it's the top of your head.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: You don't have to be I'd say, like at my
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: maybe seven maybe seven to ten, you know what I
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: really should that's something that I should actually really think of. See,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not spot bar no no, no, no no. I
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: have to get more I have to get more organized
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: and you know in my research and bed. But I'm
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: also like I'm an experiencer. It's like I'm in a
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: habituation situation, and I that's what I like because I can,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: like you said, I can watch things change from day
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: to day, right right, Okay, yeah, and so and foster
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: that relationship with them, which is what I've been trying
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: to do. Okay, you know, set set like rule, Okay,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: you don't don't come into you know, don't try to
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: get into my house, don't scare me, and I will
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: not go into your house. There's an area that I
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: know that I'm quite sure that they have the kids,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: the little babies back in there, and I will not
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: go back in that area. Like I don't know if
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: I'm ever going to go if I feel comfortable someday
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: maybe I eventually, like if maybe if they give me
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: a sign, but for now no. But another thing that
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I was able to do is I started to get
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: on our on our home security cameras. I started to
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: get like a lot of notifications of movement overnight. This
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: was in December, I believe of twenty twenty two, and
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I would hear like listening to it live, which I
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: didn't know that I could record, I would hear like
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: almost like gorilla sounds. Well, then I realized, oh my gosh,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: I can record this live and save it. And so
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: because of that, I've been able to get a lot
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: of a lot of audio. So that's on my on
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: my YouTube most of the you know, the the good
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: stuff is I have it on my YouTube, which is
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: our apartment or No Drama Bigfoot and you're you know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: anybody can go and find that. Please check it out,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: uh or I do. I have a Facebook page which
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: is no drama. Bigfoot also encryptids. And the reason I
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: started that was because when all this was happening, I
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: was really starting to get like questions and I wanted
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: to talk to people. I was involved with another group
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: for like about nine years prior to that, but they
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: were very like, you know, we don't want to see
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: blurry pictures. We don't want to hear like, we want
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: hard concrete stuff anything else, forget it. We don't want
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: this as nonsense, like don't ask nonsense questions. And I
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: was like, wait a minute. I'm like, I'm I'm a
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: admen here and I'm I can't even ask questions like.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: That's it's maybe for adults, but a different word. Maybe
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I think I know what you're talking about. Might I
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: might know who you're talking about?
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: And then removing me from the page and we're saying
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, whatever, you know, it doesn't matter. So
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I thought, what am I going to do and talk
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: to a couple of people, and they're like, start your
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: own page, because the other thing is I wanted to
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: see And it started out as something that was going
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: to be predominantly like in you know, in my area
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: of Washington State. I wanted to see if I could
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: get local people because people are our private and they
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: don't really you know, and this is across the board
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: a lot. You know, I'm not going to come out
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: onto the you know, into the grocery store and say
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: hello everyone. I just want to tell you, you know
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: that I have sasquatch? Does anybody else you know? Actually
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: in my that would probably be like an area that
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: you could do that and not get hauled off. But
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: because like everybody and I've known this now, everybody has
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: either seen one or they have you know, it would
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: be awesome.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: If they had like if they had like Bigfoot, like
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: bigfoot straight jackets with like Patty on the there's another
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: one there. We know we have a special place.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, but but because so that again,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: that's why I started this, and I also wanted it
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: to be and I still try to make it. I
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: want people to ask questions, any questions. I want people
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: to submit evidence that they don't know, you know, like okay,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: what does anybody see anything here? Or like here's a recording,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: does anybody hear anything? Now? And then we'll give you
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: you know, an honest or I'll say I I don't
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I have some really gifted like people
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: on you know that are my moderators. So some you know,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: a lot some of them can read energy, and then
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: other ones are really good with you know, with sound
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: and whatnot. So they could say, oh, that's just like
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: a like an artifact, you know, in a recording, you know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: because obviously that happens. But I want I just feel
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: and that's so again, and then that's the no drama.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: But because of the page though, I've met some great
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: people that are neighbors now you know, well, I'm talking
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: like within five.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Miles about if you've had any neighbors like you know,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like they know you, and slowly they're like, oh, this
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: is happening here, oh you and did you guys maybe
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: meet up and have some coffee and cake and talk
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: That's exactly yeah, that's exactly what has happened. And there's
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: a couple of people. One of the guys, Kevin Royce,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I've become very good friends with him, and he had
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: just these amazing experiences with them, and he said right
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: to me right off the bat, like the first time
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: we talked he was like, listen, I gotta tell you,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: if you think they're just a big dumb ape, you're wrong.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: And and and if you don't believe me what I'm saying,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: he said, you will eventually, you know, you'll eventually come
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: around to my way of thinking. And honestly, like at
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: that point, I was like, I I I didn't even
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: know I had no.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Right, you know, I didn't yeah.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Or just form an opinion. But he was right. He
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: is part of a group of people that I now
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: know like they have been healed by Sasquatch. Yes, yeah,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: like I mean, well, is a very good friend of
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: mine now and I just I'm so blessed to be
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: his friend. Like he's he's like a living legend. He's
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: you know, he hung around with like I mean, he
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: knows Bob Gimblin like good friends. He yeah, like uh,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: doctor binder Nagel, Like he's you know, the John Green,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: like the late greats and he and he knew all
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: of them personally, and that's just so amazing. And he said,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: I would not be alive today if it wasn't for
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: the Sasquatch people, because there was an issue with his
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: heart and he was camping somewhere and and he felt
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: like almost like an electricity. And he said he could
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: feel his heart like the heart like beat, like like
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: it's beating differently like it was.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: And this is interesting. You you've you've definitely sparked something
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: in my mind because I like trying to connect people.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I talked to Kevin Keena, Kevin Keeney and h he's
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: gonna kill me. I dared the part of the Arizona
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: four and and he he has, uh a problem with
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: is he has like prosthetics on his hands, he said, problem,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and he has a lot of pain and he is
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and he said the same thing has felt like he said,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: it felt like I think it's called the what's it
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: called Charalis's or something like that where if you know
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: where they put that machine on you and it makes
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: your muscles move. Oh, yes, electronics electrolysis.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Uh like a tens unit like yeah, I know, yeah,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: like what.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I can't he's drawing the blank. He's gonna get me.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: He's gonna beat me. Chris, Chris something.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Training And I can't think of what electron and he
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: said simulation kind of like.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Right, electrolysis I think is what they called it, and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: he said, and he had his pain that's been in this,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: you know for a long long time, and then gone
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: wow wow. And they're they're having like where there's four
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: of them that go out to the Mogian Room and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: in Arizona. We're actually gonna have them on Friday here
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: coming up.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Okay cool?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: And uh they they'll go, okay, did you guys hear
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: mine speaker? Has everyone heard this? Okay? One, two, three?
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: We all say one and they all say the same thing.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: That is and glowing light. Yeah, dude, Barbie, you gotta
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: check out my shoe.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I know, I know, I do, like I do watch
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: some of them, I swear, but like, yeah, come up
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: to no pressure.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: No pressure. We'll have lives that when we're busy. I
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: just think it's very it's very interesting, very interesting that
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: like what are you thinking because you know, okay, we
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: have you know, Bob Gimlin, the other gentleman that you mentioned,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: like the pioneers of this stuff. Now it seems like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: you know, don't take this the wrong way, but don't
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: take this the wrong way. But like ordinary housewives or
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: farmers or you know, just you know, hikers are having
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: these incredible encounters, and it's happening more often. I don't
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: know if it's happening more often or people are just
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: better connected or what it is, but it seems like
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: they're maybe they're trying to like let us know of
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: their existence in a way. I don't know what it is, though.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. I don't know either, but I
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: but I've kind of come to that conclusion that I
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: think they are they want to almost like be known
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: for what for what they are. Something I've had, like
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: I've had maybe like four I've had mine speak. It's
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: not just.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Remember I don't want to because he'll get me. His
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: name is Chris Kramer. Chris. I know, yeah, Yeah, I'm sorry,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: bar I'm listening, but in the back of my head, I'm.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And when I can't think of something, it
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: just yeah, but yeah, what was I gonna say?
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: What were we talking about?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Because I can tell you it wasn't dairy queen, No, No.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: I wasn't or anything that I would like.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: We're talking about that. We're talking about the the prevalence
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: of them either either coming forward or it's being more reported. Yeah.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so with the mind speak, and what I
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: got was I was all right. So I was told
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: that because I do I do have people. I have
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: people that contact me all the time. I have to
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: say and they'll say, I have messages, and so I
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: have to kind of go through that, you know, I
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: have to weed through that and vet the people. And
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: some people they could be it's perfectly write what they're saying.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: But I can't just like listen to you know, everybody.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: But I was told that they like to listen to music,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: and they were kind of requested if I would play
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: music for them, particularly around the full moon, because it
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: it like soothes them and gives them some sort of
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: like it helps them like with their their power their
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: power like their energy not power energy. And so I'm like, okay,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: so I and they're like if the person said, like,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: if you could do this like about four to five
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: days before every full moon, that would be great. So
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: I'd done this about three months and and I'm and
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: I have good time because I don't have any neighbors
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: that are gonna see me. So I just get out
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: there and like kind of sing and dance and and
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: with you know, with it.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I thought you were jam and Hendricks and throwing in.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Nirvana because they like, all.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Right, bigot, listen to smells like teen Spirit.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's like, what is the one that
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: I always listened to? Okay, anyway, as you are something
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: in the way, No, oh god, yeah, I am a
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: huge Nirvana. No, it's from there in utero. Oh my
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: gosh box Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's it. That's the one.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: And because yeah, oh my gosh, love love love. And
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: because it's in a I don't know anything about music,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: it's there's a chord, there's like chords in it that
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: it's like the major something chord that goes through this song.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: And that's what this person said. This is if you
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: can find just search for for songs that have these
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: the chords and the ones that you like. You know,
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: that's because that's what they want to.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Hear that particular song. As a drop D I can
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: actually play the intro. It's been a while. Uh so
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: everyone has like a vibe like, so you're digging drop
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: D music, you know what I mean, which is great.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a drop A guy, you know what I mean.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: So it's a little lower in resonance, but that is
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: very Actually should send you some music and it might
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: might might scare them away though we don't want that
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: do with barb No No.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Another one. Another one was you know the song Yellow
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: by cold Play. That's that's another one. The ones that
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: are within that, and then Lady Gaga poker Face. These
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: are yeah, again, these are the songs that have that
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: whatever that is. I don't know what, I don't know
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: what what it is. They're very yeah, it's pretty like
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: a diverse group of absolutely, So I was I think
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: I was doing. I think the song that was happening
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: was Yellow, because that's like a very you know, like
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: you're really love putting out love and this is what
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I would do for you, And and I was just
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: having such a good time blah blah blah. All of
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm hit with this like extreme sadness to
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: the point where I this is where I think, like
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: this was not my feeling. This, these emotions were not
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: my emotions. And I just started to cry and I
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: had to sit down. And my little dog was out
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: with me, and he's like, what's going on? And he
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: has a little bigfoot toy and he like came and
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: like dropped it at my feet. I'm like, are you
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: kidding me? It was so weird because I'm like, where
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: is this terrible? Like depressing? Like oh, just so I know,
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: it's so funny.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like I see them. He's probably like I
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: see them all the time. I want to bite them
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: to thank you mom.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, So I'm like, what is going on? Like,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: oh my god? And then I start to get this
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: mind speak and it's more it's kind of pictures and
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: it's you're not I don't even know how to describe it,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: because it's like you're hearing you're hearing words, but I
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: and I and I'm more like I'm seeing the words
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: because in my mind speak, a lot of the words
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: like flash in front of me, like I'm watching you know, subtitles.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: And it was essentially like, we're very we we don't
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: know what to think of you. Why do you? Why
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: are you always wanting to take pictures of us? Why
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: are you always asking us to take pictures? And and
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: what you know, whatever you're doing? Why most people think
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: that we are these ugly monsters and they're terrified of us?
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: What is the deal? Like, what's your deal that you
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: want to know about us and you want to see us?
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Why are you? Why are you trying to communicate with us.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was essentially. That was essentially it. And
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, and they were very and they
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: showed me. One of the things they showed me, and
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I still don't know, I don't know exactly was that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: they were, you know, they stay away from humans. And
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: there was a group of them like standing around, and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: there was a young sasquatch that was like laying on
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: the ground. I guess because I didn't. It was just
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: like I saw this group of them standing around and
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: then this young one and she had her eyes closed.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a sheet. I just
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: you know, seemed like a sheep. I don't again, I
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: don't know. I'm thinking maybe she was like early teens
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: or something. Okay, And they didn't say that she was
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: you know, unalived or anything, but I got.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: The barbe I appreciate your you are not you're not
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: unliking it.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, well yeah, i'll tell you that's yeah. I'm learning.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, please continue. I'm sorry.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: It was just no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: that's yeah. I'll have to tell you about yeah about
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: that too. But it was just like I was so
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: sad that that they had these feeling. I don't and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know where the sadness came, except that I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: know that it only added to my extreme sadness, Like
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: I felt so terrible that that this is how they
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: feel that humans. But it's the truth. You know that
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: humans are afraid of them and they think they're scary monsters.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: I had now and I have to say, prior to this,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: I forgot to tell you, like the most freaking thing
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: that's so important is I actually saw one sitting in
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: a bush one night. And because this was like again August,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: it's always August, and it was twenty three. It wasn't
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: last summer. It was because last summer is when I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: had that like mind speak situation, and so August all
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: summer long I had. I could see them starting to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: come closer, like to the tree line every night about dusk,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: and so you know, you're not really seeing like features,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: but you I can, you can see them, but it
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: was there is like there's quite a few solid black ones,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: and they were the ones that I could see that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: were kind of congregating. But I also don't know if
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: maybe they had that because there's a whole array of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: colors and if they were like blocking the other ones
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: because there would be easier to see, you.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Know, amongst the right.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: I was like, I want to see if I can
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: get this on video. So I kept asking them, and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I kept I walked like walk by on this the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: path and with my camera like if anybody, and I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: always I always ask, I always tell them when I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: have my camera, and I tell them I don't have
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: my camera, and I always ask like, is if anybody
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: want I'm I have my camera going, does anybody want
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: to get their picture taken or want to be seen?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: So I it was like I feel like I was
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: too close to them at that that night that they
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: didn't even show up on you know, they knew what
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: I was doing, and they didn't even show up. At
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: the very last minute, I was just about ready to
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: turn my phone off and I thought, oh, there's this
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: tree that was like kind of hangs hangs kind of
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: into the into the walk because it's not we don't
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: have it's not like this manicured you know. It's a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: typical Pacific Northwest ferns and moss and and cedar trees.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: And so when I so when I get to this
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: this bush that's hanging over. I'm like, what if I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to stick my phone into this? And
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: so I stick my phone in and I have it
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: set to like it'll it'll, you know, like a itself
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: to the darkness, and so okay, that's when I see like,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, there's a sasquat sitting in there. And
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: I so I screamed and ran and I was so
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: pissed off at myself for doing that because for a
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: long time, I mean, it's a natural it's a natural response.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you try to speak to them like like
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you know, you can talk to people like you know,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I do this myself, like you can kind of like
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: your intentions is to show them like like you know, hey,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: it's a natural reaction. And I didn't mean that, you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I and I but I for some reason,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I was still so like guilt written and I think
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: their mind speak was like, look, it's okay, this is
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: how people think, and why are you why are you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: feeling bad that you screamed? Because I really really was
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: like I don't know. After a while, it really started
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: to bother me because I don't want any like to
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: think that like they think that we're ugly monsters, like
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: that's so horrible. And so I again, I think that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: this mind speak was kind of, you know, an answer,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: and I'll tell I got to tell you about that,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: about about this sasquadch too, because I got the feeling
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: that she was a female. I don't know, I didn't
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: see anything she was. Let me see if I can
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: get my like, I don't know if I can get
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: myself curled up. She was like sitting like this, but
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: her arm her arms were like this. So she curled
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: up sitting on her butt. And there's also like a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: little song kind of like a little hill sort of,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: so her legs were about to hear. And then she
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: had her arm yeah, arms up like this. I remember that.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: So all I could see was from the bridge of
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the nose up looked exactly like chewbodka. I'm like, whoa,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I that is the thing that struck me.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: She had a round it head and it was like
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: you know, hair coming down and then long long hair
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: coming down from both of her arms. I don't remember
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: her I don't remember her hands. I do remember that
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: her feet, legs like solid hair like just just like Chewbaka.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: She was like a brownish and maybe had some auburn
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: in but this is this is like me seeing through
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: the camera. But and then the camera like light, you
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, the flash. Yeah, So and we
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: locked eyes and when we did, she immediately put her
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: head down like that. And I don't know if it
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: was I don't know if I screamed. I don't know
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: when I screamed because it wasn't long, you know, but
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: but I that's I think what made me feel bad,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: like because it's something almost like that a child would do,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: you know, like if they get they think they're in
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: trouble or they're they're they're they're trying to hide from you,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: you know, they think that. I don't know, and she
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: immediately I think that it was just kind of like
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: nobody thought that I would just walk into that bush.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: And so are you hearing like are you hearing any
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: like signs? Are you hearing them talk? Are you hearing
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: like wood knocks? Are you hearing them walk? Yeah?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Yes? Not at this point though, I mean I mean,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: I mean I was on on audio, like on my
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: audio at night, yes, definitely, But when this is going on, no, not,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: I wasn't hearing anything, but I've had. I've had, yeah,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: all of that. I I, oh, gosh, what do you want? No?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I got. I think the question I wanted
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: to ask you is you said there's six to seven types.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: We'll go with this number. Okay, okay. And you said
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: you said the word clan. Are you are you suggesting
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: that maybe there's six or seven different clans a different
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: type like in interacting with each other.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: No, No, I think that there are. This is the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: same plan. And I don't know how exactly this works,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: but from what I understand, they they're very careful to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: keep their like the gene pool diverse. Diverse. Yeah, because
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: so they actually will go out of their area, you know,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: so you don't have the issues that you would interbreeding
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: within your own.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Right right family family.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so I think because of that, and
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: actually I don't know if you know Robin Haynes, but
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: she's gosh, she can communicate with them, and she's so
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: like amazing you yes, oh definitely, yeah.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Because you want to talk to her.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: She she's the one that out of the blue one
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: day I'm listening to I'm listening to a live show
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: and it's like, Okay, does anybody have any questions. And
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'm brand you know, Brandy. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to like do I have asquatch living
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: around me and what? And she's like, oh, yes, you do,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: and I'm like oh. And then she goes into this
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: thing like you have two clans. There's about seventeen in
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: each ones, maybe twenty like twenty two of them, and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: so I think that's a pretty consistent number. There's about twenty.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: And I also think there is another clan. I think
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: that's the clan that that is over like where my
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: my my friend, my neighbor Kevin Royce that I was
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: talking about. But I do think that they there's members
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: of like there's members of the two clans that are related,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: you know. So it's kind of like, oh, you know,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: we're living by our cousins or you know brothers systems.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Right right, which is kind of like very very human, like,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: you know, especially back you know, a long time ago,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: where we're in Europe or in Africa and other parts
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: of Asia, where like they will have like where then
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: they'll have you know, the female of one tribe and
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: the male of another didn't kind of marry together so
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: that there's peace between the tribes and all. It makes
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I'll tell you it's just some of
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: the things. Like one of the things I've heard is
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: that they there's I believe, two areas and we're talking
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: about big foot like within the or you know, Sasquatch
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: within the United States. There's two areas that they go
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: to find, you know, to match up like with mates.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: And what they do is they in I believe it's
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: late spring, early spring maybe that they do, maybe late
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: winter that they go. And in our area, it would
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: be the Olympic Peninsula, like way up in the in
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: the Olympic Mountains, and and they take any young ones
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: that are becoming you know, mature that they are looking
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: will eventually be looking for mates, and that's what the
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: clan elder will take them. And maybe and then anybody
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: that's ready and anybody coming up, and then that enables
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: them to you know, let's have like a meet and
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: greet and you can see like, is there anybody you're
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: interested or maybe oh, I you know, I have my eye.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: On apploy like a big Foot barn dance yeah right.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I'm like well that that
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: you know, that makes perfect sense. And I mean from
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: what I can see, that would be the timeline because
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: the the Well Clan elder, he's the one that I've
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: heard the most. I heard him first and I heard
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: him the most. He's a very distinctive, very deep like
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: and I have a lot of recordings on my YouTube,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: so anybody please go check it out. It's he, all right,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: So that was the He was the one also that
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: I had the first episode of mine speak. So even
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: before when I'm on the deck and had that happen.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: One night, I'm I'm laying in bed and I'm listening
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: because what I do is I kind of do like
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: round Robin with the with the cameras. I'll go to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: the carport one and then I'll go to the lower deck,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: and I'll to the side deck, and then the front
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: the front porch, and I just go around and I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: immediately when I go to that camera, you have to
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: immediately make sure that you know the recording's going because
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: you couldn't. I could miss something and I and that's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: what I know to do that because I have I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: have missed things. So one night, I'm laying there and
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: then I hear I like this, the word Mount m
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: o n T just kind of like flashes in my head.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: It's dark, you know, it's dark in my room. My
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: husband's next to me sleeping, and I'm like, want, why
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: would I want?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Then I hear this is like he I can't even
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: do it. He's the deepest like growl. It's it's really
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: he's a really cool voice. And I'm like, wait a minute,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: is that your name? Are you want? And then it
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: was almost like it was it was like he acknowledged,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: like like yeah, and I'm like whoa. I'm like, well,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: that's thank you for telling me your name. And then
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: a couple of it's later, I'm like, okay, do it again.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: But it didn't work. He's like, I'm not a trick
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: pony lady, you know.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: But you're having these experiences are different than you know
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: because you always you know, you have people have encounters
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: or hunting and then like they see one and they
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: run away and they're scared and they don't go back
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: in the woods. You're having like kind of if you know,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: gins of bricks. He's having very very interesting things happened
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: to him as well that it's like this you know,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: for for for the layman like myself, it's kind of indescribable.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: But you're so it's kind of hard for people to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: understand what you're experiencing because it's the words are difficult
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: to described. To put him in the context for the uninitiated,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I guess you would say, to understand them, so I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I can see why. It's very exciting and at the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: same time, it's very befuddling.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Like a crazy person, you know, I mean, but I don't.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: This is my truth, and it's like I don't know
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: what else to say. And there's a lot things like
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: there's a couple of things like that. I like, I
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: didn't even talk about certain things. Yeah, a wild because
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: it's like I don't want to tell people this. I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: really sound like a lunatic, I really do.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's hard. It's hard to find friends if
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: this is like being such a big part of your existence.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: You're at your house, you know, you're making your bacon
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: and eggs in the morning. You know, you're you're you know,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: you're you're repainting the piano room or whatever it is
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: you're doing, and everyone's doing the same thing. But at
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: the same time, there's big foot outside going my name
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: is Months and you're like, well, that's something I will
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: bring up at the bridge game on Saturday. It's Saturdays.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: How do you do that? So this is kind of
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: like you know, coming on these shows, it's kind of
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: like a way in which you you feel, you know,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: normal again in a sense, like normal but not but
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: not but stepping into a world where people are having
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: the same experiences in uh, you feel like some type
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: of foundation and like what is this? But at least
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: we're together and what is this ex send the community.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: As Yeah, and I've never had a group like I
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: have this group of girlfriends now researchers that have very
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: similar experiences. Two of them are they're so gifted, like
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: you would say like a seer, you know, like they
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: can see energy, they can tell you what this is
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: or they may not know. But and then there's some
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: researchers in there that and then there's two that our
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: habituation situations like me. Essentially, you know, you have them
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: living around and it's so therapeutic to be able to
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: have people to talk to you because it was very
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: like yeah, it's exciting, but it's super intimidating and you know,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: and I still think, like I still I'm when it
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: comes down to it, it's still very intimidating because if
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: something changes, then you know, I don't.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Know right, it's a It's really weird too, because a
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people who are skeptics will say, you know,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: like where's the evidence, But unlike it's all there's what
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: do you what do you want other than maybe other
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: than the deceased, But if they're burying their deceased, if
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: they're able to be the best hide and seek players
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: in the world, and and they're able to you know,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: like they could be right there in front of and
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: you won't see them. Sometimes sometimes it was like a
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: shadow and you won't know it, or a shadow of
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: a tree and then all of a sudden, you go,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, I think the shadow moved. Like they're
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: so good at that. What what else do you want
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: when they don't when like the thing is, I think
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: they're reaching out to people who are either gifted who
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: are I think you're an empathic person. That's what I'm fine. Like,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: you know, you can go to a bar probably when
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: you were younger, and you were like, oh, this guy's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: no good. This is crazy about the kick off here.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I'm getting hell out of here. That's me. I'm the
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: same way. I never had any issues because I always
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: just left. I don't need to be around that. So
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I think they're reaching out to specific people who are
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: able in a certain way to present their side of
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: the story and try to and then to go, you guys,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: figure it out and when you're ready, we'll be here
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: waiting for you. But it's it's happening everywhere. It's I
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: was talking to a gentleman and in Australia about the
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Yahwi Oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah that's coming out next week.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Well it'll be past them. Yeah, whoa what.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: A good friend of mine is an Ausie Carrie and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: O'meira and she has dog men and yowie's and some
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: bigfoot all living like on her property. And Karri yeah
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: she probably that's her first podcast. She's like, it's gonna
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: be you because we're like best friends. But I'm not
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: doing live show. I mean, I'm I'm anyway.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: So mister Gary Open, that's what I had on. Uh.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: He's he's like a biologist and he's been in like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Borneo and like uh like in all these like really
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: deep dark places. He used to be like a like
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: an excavator or an esclator, whatever's people to go out
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: and mark the like a like a like a like
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: a person who goes out for the Australian government and
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: like goes and like like a survey or yeah, and
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh yeah, yeah, we got the the original
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: pictures and the native people and this is that It's
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: it's incredible. It's an incredible thing. And you know this
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: is it's it's coming to light. It's uh, I just
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: don't I just think, like, you know, the things they
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: found undeath the pyramids, it's being snubbed and people just
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: flick their nose at it. But you know, the the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: evidence is piling up and one day, you know, people
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: as yourself, will not you be able to go to
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the grocery store and be like, oh yeah, you're a
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: bar I know you, you're one of the you're with
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: the habituation out there in the future sound and uh
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: so you won't feel that anymore and you won't feel that,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: so I mean, so what are you you just planning on,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: like just continuing and trying to create this relationship and
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: trying to foster a good relationship with them so they
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: don't feel so outcasted.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and now so when and when we so
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: we bought this new property and it's it's you know,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: it's in addition again to our house back there Olympic Peninsula.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: It's so whoo. It is so active, like I are
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: my first day of going out and like taking some
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: videos and like, you know, to start the research here.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: I have about twenty minutes of video that I mean,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: because I you know, you got to like take some
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: out that's like nothing and I don't feel I'm not
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: feeling it or whatever. So about twenty minutes of video
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: that I'm like, I keep seeing more and more and
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: more in this in this video, and I want to say, oh,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: do you see that? Like I kind of want to
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: point it out because you have your people that they're like,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see any of that, that's bs.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: But then you also have people like, wait, what are
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: you seeing? Like can you please tell me what you're seeing?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to do like the big red circle,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: you know, because people hate that.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: You know, it is very important when it comes to
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: when it comes to any type of any type of
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: for example, art, I'm not saying which it is kind
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: of art, but I'm an artist. Music. The music I
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: like is what I like my podcast. You like it,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: you don't like it. It's up to you. You can't
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: please everybody all the time because if you do that,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: then you're not going to be yourself. And authormic is
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: what I want, you know what I mean?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, because really it is it's about It's
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: not about it's not about what the public thinks. It's
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: not about what friends and family think.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: That's what your experience respect, you know.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: I want to foster this, this relationship kind of with them.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: But again, it's not like you know, people are like, oh,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: but you know, I'm not like We're going to go
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: out and have a barbecue together, you know, or I'm
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: going to go over to their house and have a beer.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: It's not like it's it is I but I do.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: I would like to see what this leads to. But
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: there has to be this consistent of me not having
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: an agenda, because that's I think. If you have an agenda,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: forget it.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: They're going to be like, so you bought this property
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: knowing in advanced there was there was activity there, or yeah,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: your husband, your husband is a sweetheart.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: He loves it too. He loves it. Okay, yeah, your community,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: and I mean it's really like a beach community, right.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: It sits high up on a bluff, but you know,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: and then the Pacific Ocean. I mean, just it's this
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: gorgeous little community. And then closer where to where we're at,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: there is uh it's a border that of d n
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: R Land. So you know when there's signs you can't,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: can't go and don't you know, no trespassing blah blah blah,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: all everywhere everywhere. And I think that I I think
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: that it's kind of being used maybe as a sanctuary.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, because I'm telling it.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: It is so freaking active here and that is what
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing, like oh my gosh, like you said, I'm
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: walking by and I'm and i'm you know, I'm filming,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: and then there's one sitting like kind of like looking
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: like people like like, oh my gosh, that was so
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: close to me. I didn't I did not see that.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: And I know that they One of the things that
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: they do at my house is they'll make like they'll
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: make a frog noise and it sounds they sound exactly
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: like a frog, but there's not like you're not gonna
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: have one frog in the forest of no frogs. And
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: every time when I go back into this area here,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: it's like immediately that frog starts and I'm like, well,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: that's I I I what. I don't know if it's
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: a sasquash, but what isn't that a weird, weird, weird coincidence,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: you know? And so we had, uh, we've been coming
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: to this place like for like vacation, you know, for
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: the last ten years, to this community it's Seabrook, it's
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: called and we just yeah, we just love it. We
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: had our thirtieth anniversary last October and we're like congratulations,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: thank you, and we're like, oh, we decided to spend
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: it here. You know. The kids are our kids are like,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: what the heck you going to Seabrook? You always go
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: to Seabrook. But we're like, no, this is our place.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: We love it here. There's not a lot going on,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: not a lot to do, but that's okay, you know,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: we're just the things that are here is what we
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: like to do. So, like I said, we're here in
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: October and we my husband was like, oh, he wanted
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: to look at a house that was an existing like
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: like a a what do they call, like a an
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: existing build okay, and we were both like, that's kind
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: of too much work. So because we have our house
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: back and on the Keepen Insula has been a labor
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: of love and we're still working on that and we're like,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: we don't want this to be a big project. So
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: on our last so we kind of went around at
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: the real estate agent kind of got an idea of
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: we like this this little new this area, and like
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: the house that we that we built is just like
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: five hundred and ten square feet. I mean it's tiny,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: but it's you know, in this cute little neighborhood. And
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: so we as we're leaving that day again back in October,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: and we're thinking about it, We're not sure what we're
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: going to do, but it was pouring rain. My husband's like,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: I think I want to go and like kind of
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: walk around and check the place out. And I'm like, okay,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not getting out of the truck because it's absolutely porn.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: I start to see movement now the way his truck
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: was sitting, and I have a video. I'll send you
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: this video. The way his truck is sitting. It's facing
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: that like the DNR border, okay, And I'm like, what
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: what is going on in there? It looked like somebody
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: in a like a big puffy like rain suit, bright
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: green rain suit, was like walking down a hill. And
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's okay. I don't know. Then I realized that,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: like it's not a hill. It's almost as like moving
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: down a tree. But it was very effortless. It was
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: it was like somebody that would be walking down a
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: hill and that's this thing is moving down through this
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: tree like that. And then I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: And then I start to see like the little like
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: the peekers, like I can't really see them, just like
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: a peripheral and you look over and you can see
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: like the outline, you know. And so I get out
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: my camera and I start to you know, to record,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: and that's actually that area now is like right.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Where am I at?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: That's like maybe two hundred feet away that area. So
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: I again, I don't know, was that, you know, was
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: that destiny? I don't know, but I've been having such
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: a great like, oh my gosh, I love it and
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: I and I love to another thing that's real. This
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: is really cool. This this community has They had a
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: local artist do a wood sculpture of this massive bigfoot,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: massive sasquatch, And the first time I saw it, I
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: was like, I don't think that that's what they look like,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: but it is now that i've seen them, it is
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: what they some of them look like. And they had
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: that down like downtown, like there's like a little town
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: square that's where they had it. When we come to
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: take possession of our house, the bigfoot statue is like
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: right back by us, and it's looking kind of toward
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: the house. I'm like, are you kidding?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Okay again, all right, they want to put it back here.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: They're going to put it back here because there's other
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: things that they're planning to do, like little fun things.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: And they're like, this is more conducive because it's like
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: hiking trails, bike trails. This is more where he you know,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: needs to be. But I'm like, wow, that's that's a
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: good that's a good sign.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: All right. So before before we get about it, please
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  Speaker 1: do a favorite bar. But first of all, thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much for coming on and sharing your experience. I
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  Speaker 1: love your enthusiasm. It's contagious. Please tell people one more
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  Speaker 1: time where we can find you and see your videos
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  Speaker 1: and looking there maybe we find something that that will help,
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  Speaker 1: because that's in the end, that's what we're doing, is
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  Speaker 1: that we're trying. It's the information is getting parted slowly.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like kind of like the UFO thing
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  Speaker 1: where it's slowly coming out. But but this one is
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  Speaker 1: going to be this one is it's it's it's too much.
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  Speaker 1: I think slowly people are going to have to cave in.
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  Speaker 1: And unless you know you're in the city and you're
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're driving your electric car and you you know,
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  Speaker 1: you live in your and everything's within fifteen minutes of you,
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  Speaker 1: and then you don't know what you're going to do
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  Speaker 1: with your life. But I'm like you, I love the forest.
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  Speaker 1: That's me. Yeah, please one more time, Please please tell
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  Speaker 1: me tell us where we can find you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Barb Haartman is my name, And I would say
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  Speaker 3: as far as if you're on Facebook or or TikTok
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  Speaker 3: No Drama, Bigfoot, encryptids, but certainly go please go to
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  Speaker 3: my YouTube channel because that is and you know it's
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  Speaker 3: far Apartment no Drama. Yeah, like and subscribe and check
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  Speaker 3: it out, and I there's gonna be all there's all kinds.
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  Speaker 3: I leave most of the comments up, and I will
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  Speaker 3: definitely engage with you if you have questions or because
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not trying to hide anything. This is
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  Speaker 3: my truth. I'm not saying that this is exactly I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what some of the some some things I do,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, So because some people will say,
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  Speaker 3: like like, for for instance, my daughter who's like super
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  Speaker 3: into social media, She's like, Mom, why would you leave
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  Speaker 3: that up? I'm like, because I want people to know,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm being completely transparent, you know. The other thing.
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  Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I should give a plug because I'm
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  Speaker 3: part of the Midnight Society. Now it's over on star
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  Speaker 3: Fox channel. Uh, we're doing Kenny Thibodeau is Star Fox
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  Speaker 3: and he and I and and and Brian Barber. We're
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  Speaker 3: doing a funow. You know, it's a fun show. It's
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  Speaker 3: camp nightmare Fuel, so like true stories of things that
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  Speaker 3: are so like terrifying you know that you're like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: this can't even be real. So we've series of back
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  Speaker 3: and that's also you can find that on my YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, thank you so very much barb plast aground.
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  Speaker 1: Want to get some of those names from you, and
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  Speaker 1: uh we we we figured it out. You know, one
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  Speaker 1: time you won't tell me. Well whatever, So all right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we are the I, we are aware of Love you
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  Speaker 1: all and enjoy the rest of your day.
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  Speaker 3: Bye, M.
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  Speaker 2: Streets, spissus
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  Speaker 3: H.