Latest / Saints Block Party Podcast / Ep 213 - "Sweep The Panthers?" Saints vs Panthers Week 15 Preview
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- 0:17[SPEAKER_00]: Tuesday night, Adam joined by my guy, Ryan Ake, a wolf.
- 0:23[SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time you listen to our podcast.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_00]: We have covered, had this podcast going for nearly six years.
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- 0:42[SPEAKER_00]: Staying as an opportunity to do something old Sunday.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_00]: where they potentially could sweep the Carolina Panthers in week 15 and really put a diminishing chance for the Panthers to win the NFC South.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_00]: And potentially stack, stack, one stack back to back consecutive wins was they have not done this season and beat two division rivals in a row.
- 1:17[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what music to Lumency is right there.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
- 1:43[SPEAKER_00]: Don't let them beat the Panthers on Sunday, bro.
- 1:46[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
- 1:47[SPEAKER_00]: And that, wherever he has in the dome on Game Day, bro.
- 1:51[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be, just the one, you know.
- 1:58[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I was saying this park is like, oh, listen, it's, they haven't been front of them.
- 2:13[SPEAKER_00]: is there's an interesting I guess you could say juxtaposition or discussion in terms of like quote unquote what's best for the team for the future quote.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_00]: You have this one I guess you could say argument or point of view like
- 2:32[SPEAKER_00]: went, went when it goes a culture, all that, regardless of what it has, the impact of in the draft.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the other subsection, which I, I don't know if you fall in, but I specifically fall into it, just like,
- 2:47[SPEAKER_00]: fuck those wins, fuck those wins, fuck those wins, fuck those wins, fuck those wins.
- 2:51[SPEAKER_00]: But not, and I'm not saying that they should go out and play games and like, loot, like, glues and get blown out.
- 2:58[SPEAKER_00]: But if you just look at how teams have been able to build, I give you perfect example, is Cincinnati Bengals.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 3:10[SPEAKER_00]: they literally were able with a very similar head coach off of the pet coach mind you like that that that that that that Taylor and more similarities are very similar where they it's it's kind of falling apart defensively later in later seasons but had was able to write a wave of
- 3:34[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Burrell went overall, not saying to the Saints, should draft the quarter back that high, but saying they had the no one overall pick, they're able to hit on that.
- 3:42[SPEAKER_00]: They had the number fourth overall pick the next year, hit on that with Jamar Chase, and then I believe the following year, they drafted T-higgins in the second round.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_00]: Top of the second round.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_00]: So you either,
- 3:57[SPEAKER_00]: To build your team in an NFL, you either have to be bad and then draft blue chip talent or you have to become like the recent rams or just your your scouting is so impeccable.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_00]: So funny.
- 4:13[SPEAKER_00]: that you know you likely might hit on players no matter where you drive them.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_00]: And as good as a 2025, drive class is and that's shown to be, I still don't have that fool like, oh, don't, don't, don't know where these kids are going to pick.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_00]: Don't matter, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, no, no, no, I just, don't wanna give rumors that,
- 4:40[SPEAKER_01]: It's just leaving no options but to get a good player, you know what I'm saying?
- 4:43[SPEAKER_01]: Like, thank you.
- 4:45[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 4:46[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
- 4:48[SPEAKER_00]: And like, so, and to steal to me, if longest Tyler's shook is falling these last four games I believe it is, regardless of the wins or losses, that to me is the most paramount thing for the rest of the season.
- 5:05[SPEAKER_00]: Truly the most paramount thing for the rest of the season.
- 5:07[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's such a...
- 5:09[SPEAKER_01]: It's a balance, right?
- 5:11[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_01]: You want to talk with Chuck and look good, you want him to build, you know, you want him to build, you know, not only confidence with the self-confidence, with his teammates, his coaches, you want him to look good, fan base, getting the fan base, having all that.
- 5:25[SPEAKER_01]: But, it's like, bro, these wins mean nothing to the grand scheme of things.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 5:33[SPEAKER_01]: To the grand scheme of things, and then being nothing.
- 5:35[SPEAKER_01]: And this team, as we said, many, many times, needs so much talent, so much talent.
- 5:43[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just think about it.
- 5:46[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be thinking about like, man, this ain't me like, just a man, another high second round or like, late first.
- 5:52[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't even throw half nobody, bro.
- 5:54[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have nobody, even trade.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_01]: I just be like, who can we trade?
- 5:57[SPEAKER_01]: They can't even trade nobody, bro.
- 5:59[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody, they traded, they're banks, they traded.
- 6:03[SPEAKER_00]: Besides a lot, they traded their high, like the most valuable person that they could have to trade the trade that way, which was for CCC.
- 6:10[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, see, what we got for that, for the fourth and the fifth, the fourth and the fifth.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_01]: And that was like, oh, like, man, we cleaned up with that one.
- 6:18[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's it, bro.
- 6:21[SPEAKER_01]: You know, call granted some, you know, maybe get you a third, you know, like, we're going to have shit, like, this team needs talent, man, and it don't matter how we feel about it, whether we want the things to lose the time.
- 6:33[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to go out there and try to win, cut them more, kill them more desperately needs the win for themselves.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for him wants to.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to like to prove to himself that like dad, can I cool play it out when he's games?
- 6:47[SPEAKER_01]: Um, obviously Tyler shook just wants to go out there play well and win.
- 6:51[SPEAKER_01]: You got Vets out there like the Mario and Cam Jordan all that they're still playing like Hard for you.
- 6:56[SPEAKER_01]: They playing like bro like Super Bowl on the line.
- 6:59[SPEAKER_01]: We're like hell They're playing bro.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_01]: They're not wired.
- 7:04[SPEAKER_01]: They're no different way.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
- 7:06[SPEAKER_01]: So
- 7:07[SPEAKER_01]: is what is they going to try to win these games, but like the team is still asked.
- 7:12[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like it's not I'm not worried about them.
- 7:14[SPEAKER_01]: Like going on people's like, oh, they make win it last four games.
- 7:18[SPEAKER_01]: It's like y'all lives y'all living really living among me.
- 7:21[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do y'all like y'all just lost to Miami a week before.
- 7:26[SPEAKER_01]: That was okay.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_01]: We beat the boys.
- 7:28[SPEAKER_01]: Great win like great win.
- 7:29[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good state.
- 7:31[SPEAKER_00]: You all kitchen these team these teams looking at us like can I say okay, so that's that's something I want to Before I hit on that point So that's why this Panthers game is so interesting to me
- 7:43[SPEAKER_00]: But before I hear that point like speaking of that Dolphins game like to me that is like the perfect like the perfect game for the team beautiful Like you had shut like flashing that second half off like out of structure making some amazing plays But late was like a lovely dropped it game when it at which wouldn't have been a game when it and like and like Chuck still gets that the great Like that's a good grade on Chuck.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great great.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_00]: We still lost
- 8:11[SPEAKER_00]: And we lost, they weren't, they weren't competitors like that, those are the games, like that's it, that those are the games.
- 8:18[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, but why this Panthers game, uh, Kevin said, beat the Panthers twice in the bucks once, hashtag leave in here with something.
- 8:31[SPEAKER_00]: That would be pretty impressive.
- 8:32[SPEAKER_00]: They pulled that off this season, in terms of division rivals and they still have to play the
- 8:37[SPEAKER_00]: Stop it?
- 8:38[SPEAKER_00]: No, yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 9:07[SPEAKER_00]: we're partying, the players, we're partying hard.
- 9:11[SPEAKER_00]: All week leading up to the same scale.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_00]: All week, bro.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just going ham.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_00]: Because at that time, like, the same, like, the same thing.
- 9:21[SPEAKER_00]: And so one win is having one win on the ceiling.
- 9:24[SPEAKER_00]: And I knew it was up that week because they had, like they had the Panthers social media team that put like a video out and they had gotten, what a view.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to come in and do like a video to the team because the week before Rico Dow had got like a penalty because he did like the extra pump.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like,
- 9:51[SPEAKER_00]: That was the week of the same guy, I was like, all these niggas niggas niggas niggas niggas they were already, they were already about to not work.
- 9:58[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
- 10:18[SPEAKER_00]: coming like Todd for first place in the division and you know that and you know that they're not going to overlook the Saints a second time, especially because the Saints just beat the Butts last week.
- 10:29[SPEAKER_00]: This game to me is going to be such a good barometer.
- 10:35[SPEAKER_00]: to a degree of like where this Saints team is, in the great, like in the grand scheme of things.
- 10:44[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, the Panthers are such a jocelyn high team.
- 10:47[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't get the Panthers team you're gonna get.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they've yet to string like two good games together, right season, like back to back.
- 10:55[SPEAKER_01]: And the last game was against the Rams, right?
- 10:57[SPEAKER_01]: How's the last game?
- 10:58[SPEAKER_01]: Shit, yeah, I think it was.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_01]: You know, beat the Rams, you was the biggest win in the season.
- 11:03[SPEAKER_01]: Like, biggest upset of the season.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying, like, huge game.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_01]: And by a weekend between, and now you face the Saints who beat y'all a couple of weeks ago, a month ago or so.
- 11:14[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea what kind of a path the team be going to get, but no freaking clue at all.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the question is kind of falls on, like, which Bryce younger you would get?
- 11:26[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's right.
- 11:28[SPEAKER_00]: That is really the question of the game.
- 11:31[SPEAKER_00]: Is like, are you going to get the Bryce Young that looked like the Panthers that we played earlier, or are you getting the Bryce Young that threw for, like, 400 or 500 yards, like the next week, or something like that?
- 11:41[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I don't know.
- 11:44[SPEAKER_01]: don't know it's crazy I don't really don't know what it is that like lights his fire or whatever like even like the game we play with tech like tech didn't do much in that game the next week and against the Rams he was balling making
- 12:04[SPEAKER_01]: time catches so I think the players I think the plays are there like the plays are there to be made even in the game we beat them in the plays were there to be made but they just weren't making them so making them even even in that bus game of mech uh and mech uh and mech uh Boooka came wide open it is oh I hope again I don't want to take things away from the team I'm just
- 12:22[SPEAKER_00]: just like they've gotten some some good lucky bounces or drops or what have you in it and that mean it's it's everything because we've seen it's we've been the receiver of those where the saints are making those type of plays so absolutely one thing that I have seen especially after the win on Sunday that won't talk to you about a little bit
- 12:49[SPEAKER_00]: you know if Tyler's shock would have started the season that the things would be feeling for wild car spot right now right with you know that right.
- 13:02[SPEAKER_01]: I'll I'll I'll see that on the time.
- 13:05[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is this is no knowledge right like a Tyler shock would have started week one against the Arizona part of the on a way to win into the vision bro to me just need to shut the start.
- 13:20[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, boy, I don't like, it's, it's a, like, in as someone who, as a fan who's still like, time to time does live in the moment, like, that is very live, live in the moment, who type of thinking, especially from a standpoint where Tyler shook it, made it that he wasn't ready to start.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_00]: Which is like, that's, that's okay, like that's completely okay.
- 13:50[SPEAKER_00]: But there are just people who like will not believe that.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_01]: Like, not believe it, bro.
- 13:57[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's just like, how many people do you need to tell you that's like the head coach, the offensive head coach, that picked Tyler Chuck just telling you.
- 14:07[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Chuck is telling you.
- 14:09[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, he wasn't ready, man, and that's okay.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's just how the cookie crumbles.
- 14:14[SPEAKER_01]: We remember the training camp.
- 14:16[SPEAKER_01]: It took him,
- 14:17[SPEAKER_01]: well in the training camp that you've been looking like do we want to put them on the field what a preseason game was looking I was looking I was looking I was looking that shake early you know I'm saying it to his credit kept pushing and pushing and pushing you know show shows and things got a preseason show some things ups and downs
- 14:38[SPEAKER_01]: got to the regular season and, you know, the, the selected, um, rattleer to get the start for the regular season and it just made sense.
- 14:46[SPEAKER_01]: Like it, nobody was shocked by that announcement.
- 14:50[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the shock was, you know, wood.
- 14:52[SPEAKER_01]: You know, management come down and force it to happen.
- 14:55[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 14:57[SPEAKER_01]: But like it wasn't a foot from a football standpoint, nobody was shocked because it was like, okay, yeah, of course it starts to been surveillance.
- 15:03[SPEAKER_01]: He's pleased some games.
- 15:04[SPEAKER_01]: You get it up.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_01]: To motor was beginning on the schedule.
- 15:07[SPEAKER_01]: I know the Arizona Cardinals is.
- 15:09[SPEAKER_01]: that faded away now, but early in the season, they were playing extremely well.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_00]: It's what I was, I didn't realize until watching Red Zone after our game that the Cardinals have three wins on the season.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even wear leps.
- 15:27[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me.
- 15:28[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have some tough losses too late.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be getting some real tough losses, but not ages, trash, they just have to get to say, it's not, you don't say, it's not, you know what I'm saying?
- 15:42[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be interesting to see, you know.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a,
- 15:48[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, I'm somewhere, some ways are going to understand why you want to move on, just kind of.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_00]: And also, like, with Kyler, like, he's probably not long for his own, like, longer anymore.
- 15:58[SPEAKER_00]: No.
- 15:59[SPEAKER_00]: So, there's two things completely not safe for there that I want to talk to you about.
- 16:02[SPEAKER_00]: The first one, it's football related is if you need an example of how quickly things change in sports.
- 16:14[SPEAKER_00]: The shit that's happening with the Indianapolis cults.
- 16:19[SPEAKER_00]: And like the last month is, you talk about windows closing?
- 16:25[SPEAKER_00]: For a nigger.
- 16:26[SPEAKER_00]: They were waiting to.
- 16:28[SPEAKER_00]: And they went from Parinoli, the best team in the league.
- 16:34[SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Jones at the reclamation project was he was looking like an MVP candidate.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't there.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to re-up him next season and he'd be their quarterback going forward.
- 16:45[SPEAKER_00]: Potentially feeling so good about themselves.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_00]: They go out and they trade for sauce.
- 16:50[SPEAKER_00]: Gotner from the jet, giving a two-first round picks for cornerback who the last season and a half has been very overrated in terms of his play.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_00]: But bold move.
- 17:04[SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Jones had a fracture in his fibula.
- 17:07[SPEAKER_00]: They kept playing him.
- 17:09[SPEAKER_00]: And on Sunday, he tears his Achilles.
- 17:13[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a doctor.
- 17:13[SPEAKER_00]: I don't tend to want to be one on TV, but I would not be shocked if there was some type of correlation of someone playing on a fracture fibula leading to an Achilles injury because of the overcompensation, whatever.
- 17:27[SPEAKER_00]: So he's done for the season, torn Achilles, which means he's not gonna play the season, who knows when he's gonna play next season.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_00]: That sucked for Daniel Jones, like in terms of like a financial standpoint, that's awful for him.
- 17:39[SPEAKER_00]: Today they signed 44-year-old Philip Rivers to their practice squad.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_00]: And now you don't have a first round pick this year.
- 17:51[SPEAKER_00]: and who knows what the quarterback situation is next year that that first round pick that the Jets have next year they don't got a quarterback, that might top turn into a top team pick.
- 18:05[SPEAKER_00]: Just like that, well, just like that.
- 18:08[SPEAKER_00]: Shit comes quickly, has changed for the quote organization in front office.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sports is just a sports is wild.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
- 18:22[SPEAKER_01]: Because let me think about the coach.
- 18:25[SPEAKER_01]: You're your coach fan.
- 18:27[SPEAKER_00]: It's been made.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a roller coaster.
- 18:32[SPEAKER_01]: And they signed 44-year-old,
- 18:36[SPEAKER_01]: Philip Rivers, who hasn't played since 2020?
- 18:39[SPEAKER_00]: I also left out the fact that like the quarterback that they dropped it fourth over all two years ago, can't play because he has a fractured orbital bone that he over got, and he got working out, nigga, nigga, I'm working out, what the world, and they we got Philip Rivers Berlin, I just, I still can't rap by it.
- 19:02[SPEAKER_01]: The man hasn't played football in five years.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_01]: Hasn't played football.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the girls played the Titans again this season, but like what happened to him if he gets hit by Jeffrey Simmons and some shit.
- 19:12[SPEAKER_01]: Brock like for some, I know they play the Texans, like we get a team.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_01]: You look at him on the Texans defense.
- 19:18[SPEAKER_01]: Philip Rivers.
- 19:20[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna blow his Achilles, bro.
- 19:23[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not wishing it, but I'm saying like,
- 19:25[SPEAKER_01]: come on now like what are we doing but this is the same team that went out and got Jeff Saturday off ESPN that he'd be a hit quote that's right I can complete that happened that actually happened the guys on TV said that just come hit quotes as well unbelievable you got one win too you didn't get one win
- 19:48[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what are you doing?
- 19:50[SPEAKER_01]: And I keep saying tweets like, oh, you know, it's pretty still sharp.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's been keeping up with the plays.
- 19:55[SPEAKER_01]: What are you all talking about?
- 19:57[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, go give your lost show, man.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_01]: The man has not played football.
- 20:02[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been in a training camp.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_01]: He has nothingness.
- 20:04[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he lives right out here, like 20 minutes away in front of him.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're coaching this team and all that.
- 20:10[SPEAKER_01]: What are y'all, they're just,
- 20:15[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't understand where's that this should be outraged like oh, and this is like this is like this is like a elder piece of something like That that a Fourth that we didn't get for a latte Run y'all should it just I should have threw a stator Okay, wouldn't you been tripping?
- 20:34[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're in the fourth round.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you'll be picking like 13 or something.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 20:38[SPEAKER_01]: You'd be alright, but not y'all ain't got no first round pick
- 20:42[SPEAKER_01]: No first round pick.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be picking 12 13.
- 20:46[SPEAKER_01]: No quarterback.
- 20:47[SPEAKER_01]: No quarterback.
- 20:49[SPEAKER_01]: They got this, you know, mid 30s, quarterback was, you know, like a solid solid starter that could be available for you, you know, just give the Saints a call, come March, New League year.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just got to get those
- 21:11[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a two thousand twenty two thousand twenty eight seven six something.
- 21:17[SPEAKER_01]: I want something now I want something now give me a seven round pick now.
- 21:24[SPEAKER_00]: Had it this has happened early in the season.
- 21:28[SPEAKER_00]: Before the trade that line.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_00]: In car was healthy because he's he's still not it would have been very interesting to see.
- 21:37[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what happened like cuz I I'm fairly certain that they would reach out to the Saints for Derrick hard Had he if he was helping you if I bet he would I bet car people would have reached out Yes, I'm good.
- 21:51[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
- 21:51[SPEAKER_01]: You know I'm good.
- 21:52[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm good.
- 21:52[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm good.
- 21:53[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can make up man You'll see me and even on the podcast.
- 21:57[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm good
- 22:01[SPEAKER_00]: So much has happened this season.
- 22:03[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we forget how wild that saga was.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, it was like, mandatory mini camp.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_00]: And like, they reported it and he's posting pictures of him over, like, in Europe.
- 22:18[SPEAKER_00]: We can play for God about it, bro.
- 22:19[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just not like not even in our mind anymore.
- 22:21[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's 10.
- 22:22[SPEAKER_01]: I agree it is being a Saints fan, bro.
- 22:25[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
- 22:29[SPEAKER_01]: you're a story.
- 22:32[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, never meant killing more.
- 22:34[SPEAKER_00]: Never met him.
- 22:37[SPEAKER_00]: But I, but I was wrong.
- 22:38[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was this wrong person.
- 22:41[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 22:41[SPEAKER_00]: Like a you trip.
- 22:42[SPEAKER_00]: You trip.
- 22:45[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin said river signing is like the warehouse jobs that hires the old dude.
- 22:49[SPEAKER_00]: Just because he got the expert teeth and mentor the young dudes who be while in the warehouse.
- 22:54[SPEAKER_00]: Just their perhaps tag leadership.
- 22:57[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I hope so, bro.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_00]: I like, okay, you bring her for leadership, fine.
- 23:00[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's like, you know, but this is the thing that for from Rivers perspective, how does that make any sense for him?
- 23:08[SPEAKER_00]: Because it restartes Hall of Fame, clock makes nothing makes them, but I think he just don't care.
- 23:14[SPEAKER_01]: He probably like, I don't care about the Hall of Fame anyway, you know, but I mean, I don't like, screw that bro.
- 23:21[SPEAKER_01]: He'll play football, like, get hit.
- 23:25[SPEAKER_01]: hit and 44 years old.
- 23:28[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good, bro.
- 23:29[SPEAKER_01]: No, thank you.
- 23:31[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he probably midlife crisis, bro.
- 23:34[SPEAKER_01]: All he's done is play football is all-life culture football is a don't-life.
- 23:38[SPEAKER_01]: You know, somebody's guys, they just don't know nothing else, bro.
- 23:42[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the culture entertain in that shit, like I wouldn't even entertain it, bro.
- 23:46[SPEAKER_00]: Just put that shit to bed.
- 23:48[SPEAKER_00]: I actually wanted to start with this.
- 23:49[SPEAKER_00]: This is completely off the subject.
- 23:52[SPEAKER_00]: We have to be one concurrent.
- 23:53[SPEAKER_00]: You want to write no or a PCH I'll join in this.
- 23:55[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to start with this, but I forgot too.
- 23:59[SPEAKER_00]: But I do have to talk about something, not for barrelated that it's going to feel a little old man yelling at the clouds.
- 24:06[SPEAKER_00]: But as the holiday season, Christmas in a couple of weeks, I can't stand.
- 24:14[SPEAKER_00]: Give card, culture, bro.
- 24:16[SPEAKER_00]: I can't stand it, boy.
- 24:24[SPEAKER_01]: I know how to do exactly what you go with these baby, go ahead, go.
- 24:29[SPEAKER_00]: Where, where did we have the society just stop getting trying to get to know someone?
- 24:38[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was, I went to Target to get some Christmas gift bags and like there are so many people like at the gift cards, just like just just gift cards, gift cards.
- 24:47[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they back to when we were kids.
- 24:50[SPEAKER_00]: The, that feeling Christmas birthday, whatever it is, of opening an actual gift.
- 25:01[SPEAKER_00]: Your, your parents, family, friends,
- 25:05[SPEAKER_00]: has gotten to know you, or know you so well, that they go out and buy a gift for you because they know that you like it.
- 25:16[SPEAKER_00]: Where did like, it kind of like this conversation goes a little hand in hand with the kisses or sauce conversation.
- 25:26[SPEAKER_00]: Just in terms of like society wise, it's just like this society of like,
- 25:32[SPEAKER_00]: every rest rest rest rest like people not don't people don't even get to like know each other anymore for a lot of uh... twenty five dollar gift card and this is not i don't want this to sound like ungrateful or or anything like that
- 25:48[SPEAKER_00]: But like, we're, we're, we're, we just, not, not all people because I, I, I, I love, I love thinking about a great gift to get for those who I care about and I love like I, it just gets me like so excited.
- 26:02[SPEAKER_00]: I know they bought the love to shit out of this.
- 26:05[SPEAKER_00]: So,
- 26:06[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that it's a thing tied to our society where people don't interact and connect anymore.
- 26:13[SPEAKER_00]: People were so much like on their devices, on, you know, there's this lack of interpersonal and connection that's like, I'm just gonna get, it annoys me, bro.
- 26:27[SPEAKER_01]: I feel you.
- 26:28[SPEAKER_01]: I feel you.
- 26:29[SPEAKER_01]: And I say, it's Mr.
- 26:30[SPEAKER_01]: Gift Call himself.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_01]: I'll pull up with him.
- 26:33[SPEAKER_01]: a bunch of bags and give calls.
- 26:35[SPEAKER_01]: Not even in the envelope.
- 26:36[SPEAKER_01]: I'll put it in a bag.
- 26:38[SPEAKER_01]: Here you go.
- 26:40[SPEAKER_01]: Chili.
- 26:41[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 26:43[SPEAKER_01]: God of chillies.
- 26:45[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because you know, like you said, man, the interpersonal stuff, and plus everybody just in the rush, man.
- 26:51[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody is.
- 26:53[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody has time.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody wants to spend the time and put an effort to actually go shopping
- 27:01[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there it is.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to actually thank you.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_01]: Like, put it on it too.
- 27:05[SPEAKER_01]: It's stuff like that.
- 27:06[SPEAKER_01]: And what do people say is the old one and all the stands?
- 27:08[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's the thought accounts.
- 27:10[SPEAKER_01]: It does come.
- 27:10[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it actually comes.
- 27:11[SPEAKER_01]: Like, somebody gets me a thought for gift.
- 27:13[SPEAKER_01]: Don't matter how much it is.
- 27:14[SPEAKER_01]: It could be $10 a $10 gift, you know, but you put it like some thought into it.
- 27:19[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, man, like, that's just blows me away.
- 27:21[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, God, something I never forget, you know?
- 27:24[SPEAKER_01]: But a gift card I taken to, like,
- 27:34[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
- 27:35[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin said send me, send me those chilies give cards you get throw out of them.
- 27:39[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely not.
- 27:40[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 27:40[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting like fucking chilies give cards.
- 27:44[SPEAKER_00]: What the fuck you think this is?
- 27:47[SPEAKER_00]: Anyhow, I thought I had to go on that tangent.
- 27:50[SPEAKER_00]: I needed to let it out.
- 27:51[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that was like, it's just print money from company's brand because they know they know like, I'm sure like the data model people and have like figured it out like,
- 28:03[SPEAKER_01]: 38% of this never gets used.
- 28:06[SPEAKER_01]: So this is just like cash in the bank.
- 28:08[SPEAKER_01]: Just cash.
- 28:11[SPEAKER_00]: Bring back, bring back hashtag, real yearning and bring back hashtag.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_00]: We'll think you when you That's all I want, bro.
- 28:20[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting old and and as shit.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_00]: I just won't just want some connection.
- 28:28[SPEAKER_00]: 80 out.
- 28:29[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to take our break and actually come back and talk football talk Saints Panthers pretty pot week 15 will be right back after this break.
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- 30:13[SPEAKER_00]: We are back, all right, we puck and puck and vuck ball, talking, puck and Saints Panthers.
- 30:23[SPEAKER_00]: How did the Saints win this game?
- 30:27[SPEAKER_01]: Shut, baby, do you think, shut?
- 30:31[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think?
- 30:32[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, bro, like, seriously, that's pretty much the game plan.
- 30:37[SPEAKER_01]: Like, shut, go out there, make those off schedule plays, but
- 30:42[SPEAKER_01]: to you building on those in schedule please also just it for you but I know you about that fourth quarter brother beautiful beautiful beautiful like that that's stuff that gives me saturday
- 30:57[SPEAKER_01]: Head of the second segment, second rags and stuff, the running all that awesome, like that's football beauty, but like the, just put your back foot in that ground and throwing that ball with anticipation over the middle, ripping it on third, third, eighth, third, nine, third, five when you know the defense coming for you, that's what I like, that's what gets my blood blown.
- 31:19[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what he was doing in the full quarterburg.
- 31:21[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's what really wasn't wearing the game.
- 31:23[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something that ball like that and forcing the offense to move, taking the middle of the field, taking the sidelines and stuff like that.
- 31:32[SPEAKER_01]: And making those plays that, you know, we, you know, talk about,
- 31:37[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in all season when, you know, when we were, you know, looking at his cuddles like, hey, can't he sustain the offense?
- 31:43[SPEAKER_01]: Can he, you know, can he, but trick you late down the field and stuff like that instead of just like Big Blue Hut.
- 31:50[SPEAKER_01]: What she does, he Big Blue Hut's.
- 31:52[SPEAKER_01]: That, that, like, some of the sites you see he's looking down field.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_01]: Looking for that Big Blue, instead of taking the quick check down and stuff like that.
- 32:01[SPEAKER_00]: one of the like lowest rated quarterbacks in the league on passes 10 or less yards like one of the low but he's like that's that that checks so much with his tape brackets he wasn't he wasn't he was not throwing that ball like short in contact with his last season Louisville it was no it was intermediate or was deep shots
- 32:22[SPEAKER_01]: And like, think about that, like, yeah, like, two misses to taste them in his past game, they were just quick a little loud rouse just and there were bad misses, just bad misses, just missed him.
- 32:32[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, how do you miss that, right?
- 32:33[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's fifth in the league.
- 32:35[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on all quarterbacks on intermediate passes.
- 32:41[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, the 10 to 19 yard range, fifth in the league on EPA project member.
- 32:46[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's like up there with like deck and Jericho and all look like what's you know like with these with these weapons that he has with these weapons bruh so like that shows and look it's the small sample size compared to them so like yeah good to understand stats but still is like that's pretty good because that area that intermediate area 10 to 19 yards is like where
- 33:13[SPEAKER_01]: win games like that's where that's when the action is that's how you get your first downs you're moving the ball you get your big plays and all that yes the deep passes the 20 plus yes we all love those but those are like one or two plays again you get those but those that 10 to 19 yards I guess what action really happened so the fact that he's succeeding right there
- 33:34[SPEAKER_01]: like, it means a lot, man, like that, that's like what you want to see from a young quarterback.
- 33:39[SPEAKER_01]: And you still need to work on like the layups, just the quick rhythm stuff, you know, those things are important.
- 33:46[SPEAKER_01]: And he does that, but it's just, it's just inconsistent.
- 33:49[SPEAKER_01]: So he has to work on that consistency in a short area.
- 33:53[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, yeah, I just want to see him do that,
- 33:59[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he's not the fastest guy, but he's going to make you get to that edge.
- 34:14[SPEAKER_00]: And Kevin more like can we get back to run into the left bro like oh bro It was it was driving me crazy like I sat on the zoom I said.
- 34:23[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're running to the left like they had a series of plays That were so positive they kept running to the left Come around to the left.
- 34:30[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin to look and then he called the quarterback keeper to the left
- 34:34[SPEAKER_01]: right and then in the second half I don't know what but he like started to try to run like to the right I'm like I get it you got it you got it mix it up and shit but like then he did bust one run then he was the biggest run to the right it was like a 21-yard run by a different deal that did go to the right and it was blocked well like they did it actually did a good job blocking to the right he would have tight hands I like
- 34:59[SPEAKER_01]: It was a while was blocking problem.
- 35:01[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when it's right, I had a pretty good game blocking.
- 35:03[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's the best game blocking.
- 35:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, this game.
- 35:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that was his best game by far as someone watched every goddamn game this season.
- 35:13[SPEAKER_01]: This was by far his best game blocking it doing his thing.
- 35:16[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
- 35:16[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 35:17[SPEAKER_00]: That mean, Lacy isn't to win, whatever.
- 35:19[SPEAKER_00]: The only thanks player on the, on the pro bowl, voting, John Johnson.
- 35:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, I don't know what you're talking about looming out here, doing a good job.
- 35:34[SPEAKER_00]: It was doing a good job, all right.
- 35:36[SPEAKER_00]: Never mind, the thing got three fucking wins.
- 35:37[SPEAKER_00]: But okay, all right, all right, time up.
- 35:41[SPEAKER_00]: How many, I think, how many wins to the pelicans on the they may have three wins as well?
- 35:45[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe four.
- 35:47[SPEAKER_00]: And they're fun.
- 35:49[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, maybe that that might be three.
- 35:52[SPEAKER_00]: No, there are three and twenty two.
- 35:57[SPEAKER_00]: Yikes.
- 36:01[SPEAKER_00]: Got, all right, I'm not gonna say the Zion piece because I don't know if that's out there yet.
- 36:06[SPEAKER_00]: You got, you got, you got Zion, get injuries, think, take it.
- 36:08[SPEAKER_00]: He old, oh me and this bitch, I got him.
- 36:14[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
- 36:28[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, Devin Neil, I'm going to be important this game.
- 36:32[SPEAKER_00]: And it'll be good to see Chris O'Lavei, if he's able to replicate what he did in his first Munich esports.
- 36:42[SPEAKER_01]: He had a great game, because, yeah, you know, he had a pretty rough game.
- 36:47[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot to mention that.
- 36:48[SPEAKER_01]: But he did have a kind of rough game on Sunday.
- 36:51[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's made a couple of nice catches, but
- 36:54[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he ain't like a penalty and a bad penalty on like a key down.
- 36:58[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, so I just thought he had the kind of rough game So he would like but I knew a horn horn gonna be up for this game.
- 37:05[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about the rest of the year because he had a he had a rough game And I know and I know he wants to
- 37:12[SPEAKER_01]: And he likes to be just playing the same obviously.
- 37:15[SPEAKER_01]: So I know he's going to be up for this game, because he had the two of the biggest plays in the last game was from him slipping the following.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_01]: So I know he's going to be up ready to go.
- 37:30[SPEAKER_00]: There'll be interesting to see the fogging thing.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to say just a little number.
- 37:37[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to say just a little number.
- 37:39[UNKNOWN]: Please.
- 37:40[SPEAKER_01]: Please, bro, I don't even want to see him no more, man.
- 37:43[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see him.
- 37:44[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
- 37:46[SPEAKER_00]: And it wouldn't shock me if they try to get him back now that they're down to their, you know, third, right tap, third, third, third string, right tackle.
- 37:53[SPEAKER_00]: We were doing this for a minute.
- 37:56[SPEAKER_00]: According this on Tuesday night, the first injury port hasn't has it come out, but the first injury port will come out on Wednesday.
- 38:04[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also a little annoyed that this game is a 125 Pacific game, like why?
- 38:10[SPEAKER_00]: Why is this, why is this ain't late game?
- 38:12[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you want late game?
- 38:14[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, 1, 2, 3, 5, 3, 3, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3,
- 38:37[SPEAKER_00]: more of i-dric s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-to-make-s-make-s-to-make-s-make-s-make-s-make-s-make-s-make-s-make-s-make-s-make-s-make-s
- 39:06[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but yeah, I mean, look, the delay, sub-connection is working, like keep working.
- 39:15[SPEAKER_01]: Keep going to that well, working the middle of the field, big target.
- 39:22[SPEAKER_01]: I like the late man.
- 39:23[SPEAKER_01]: I like just looking at him closely.
- 39:24[SPEAKER_01]: I like a lot of the little things he does.
- 39:27[SPEAKER_01]: Even when he ran in Rousey, you know, he
- 39:30[SPEAKER_01]: Got a little wiggle tool, a little shake, you know, doesn't look fixed and stuff like that.
- 39:34[SPEAKER_01]: I'd just like the way he plays, I like his blocking, you know, he's very aware.
- 39:38[SPEAKER_01]: He's aware everything is going on the field.
- 39:41[SPEAKER_01]: As always, open, showing it was, I just like the way physical, you know, down, catches, just, I just like him overall, like Sean Pete, Scott was right, but Sean, like, I'm not saying he's cost him, but like, there's just that type of player that you might, well, just not just size, but just that.
- 39:55[SPEAKER_01]: kind of selfishness is going out legally.
- 39:58[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good word.
- 39:59[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me, it reminds me of a lot of constant.
- 40:01[SPEAKER_01]: So that's some good scouting about him.
- 40:04[SPEAKER_01]: Processed up.
- 40:05[SPEAKER_01]: We know about it.
- 40:05[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it that knows him.
- 40:08[SPEAKER_01]: Still still sucks.
- 40:09[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even care.
- 40:10[SPEAKER_01]: He's playing well now.
- 40:11[SPEAKER_01]: But the place is good.
- 40:14[SPEAKER_00]: They people are either heaven or Mark that's that he's turning 28 this week.
- 40:21[SPEAKER_00]: I don't eat lad.
- 40:24[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's true, but... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
- 40:52[SPEAKER_01]: I said, well, if we get, if we get a, you know, two years, like a year, two more out of them, and it helps, helps, you know, develop the quarterback.
- 41:01[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
- 41:02[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
- 41:02[SPEAKER_00]: It's a way.
- 41:03[SPEAKER_00]: It's a way.
- 41:04[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take it, you know, but, you know, obviously, this team still needs much more juicy.
- 41:07[SPEAKER_01]: If he ends up like, you can't be, you know, why receive a three for the next two years.
- 41:12[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 41:12[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
- 41:13[SPEAKER_01]: Like I take that.
- 41:15[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, keep keep going in that connection.
- 41:17[SPEAKER_01]: Like keep.
- 41:18[SPEAKER_01]: They can work this work it like in the more of these two like get back in the lab and the okay how can I make this work more you know I'm saying like because they started taking in the middle of the field Sunday it was just like gaping holes in the middle like he was late.
- 41:33[SPEAKER_01]: I want to win.
- 41:34[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder I was thinking about this couple of days ago.
- 41:40[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if he sees no.
- 41:43[SPEAKER_00]: It's not terrible, but I wonder if he sees the lay in a lobby as like
- 41:50[SPEAKER_00]: a T.J. Max Marshall's version of a.J.
- 41:58[SPEAKER_00]: Proud and about this myth, bro.
- 42:03[SPEAKER_00]: That's T.J. by Citatrans.
- 42:06[SPEAKER_00]: Citatrans version.
- 42:08[SPEAKER_00]: Listen bro, I didn't say homeless for like I didn't even say you like transitive version for about like oh he came back Marshall's version of There's not the role with those stores Get you a great top for those four Jay ball is said the birthday coat factory award listen, you could buy some really good
- 42:32[SPEAKER_00]: no pun intended coax at the brothers in the co-bacterie as a nice time but just i'm just being in how he usually is now that the lay is getting so many snaps when it cooks is going for she's she's going he has no choice but to play the lay just in terms of quote unquote how they win
- 42:51[SPEAKER_00]: quote unquote, like that's when you talk about football players, you just talk about highly win.
- 42:57[SPEAKER_00]: And I want, and I get the sense that he feels now that potentially he can utilize some of the things that he utilize and feely with AJ Brown, with Devante Smith and the passing game, with Alavey and Velay.
- 43:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely brilliant.
- 43:17[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's a it's a
- 43:20[SPEAKER_01]: because they both get open in their own different type of ways.
- 43:23[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see of a late kind of use downfield a little more, even though he's nothing burner, he can get, he has a lot of profit, he can get it in them.
- 43:34[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would like to see that more, just to excite you way that connection to the level of man, since it's working.
- 43:39[SPEAKER_01]: Also,
- 43:41[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Tala shook legs, we've seen it this past Sunday like you like come up with more design design runs two or three of them like that design run they did Early in the game opened up a lot of stuff just for the running game.
- 43:54[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like just using that started holding that defensive end You know, to the edge which created a hole for Devon Hill to run through and stuff like that.
- 44:04[SPEAKER_01]: So use that get creative with that, you know, pull it, go back to your Eagles drug jail and hurts playbook
- 44:09[SPEAKER_01]: He pulled some of that stuff out for, uh, for shookers, shook him.
- 44:13[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, I'm not saying round him eight times again, but two or three times a game.
- 44:16[SPEAKER_01]: Why not?
- 44:17[SPEAKER_00]: I will say, what, what he put on film against the bucks, what's it?
- 44:23[SPEAKER_00]: Ever wrote the benefits of the coordinator for the Panthers.
- 44:26[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have their defense ready up for shook run place.
- 44:32[SPEAKER_00]: No questions.
- 44:33[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be, excuse me.
- 44:35[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so whether that, whether that, you're using that to,
- 44:39[SPEAKER_00]: those of them off or whatever.
- 44:42[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you perfect example.
- 44:45[SPEAKER_00]: Brandon Staley, and we'll get into the defense kind of now going forward.
- 44:52[SPEAKER_00]: Brandon Staley had talked about because the Saints had
- 44:56[SPEAKER_00]: essentially bully Tampa Bay in their first meeting at the gold line like when the bucks are trying to run up the middle you know the first time it's a gold line stance the second time they finally scored but it took you know took four plays the score and that second gold line almost gold line stand he was very
- 45:14[SPEAKER_00]: aware of that and had the defense coached that, hey, we dominate these niggas in the middle and they run like on short yardish plays.
- 45:24[SPEAKER_00]: He said, so basically kind of given them like, hey, I think they go for for down because they weren't successful on the middle.
- 45:30[SPEAKER_00]: They might try to go outside on on, you know, on a short down situation and sure enough, it was a toss play.
- 45:35[SPEAKER_00]: be creakers and it was all over it.
- 45:37[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's coaching right there, boy.
- 45:40[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let it.
- 45:40[SPEAKER_00]: And then when the defense is going out the field, Brad is definitely had that little wiki.
- 45:45[SPEAKER_01]: Look.
- 45:45[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 45:46[SPEAKER_00]: I told you.
- 45:47[SPEAKER_00]: I told you.
- 45:49[SPEAKER_00]: Brad didn't.
- 45:50[SPEAKER_00]: Brad didn't.
- 45:50[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
- 45:53[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 45:53[UNKNOWN]: So.
- 45:54[SPEAKER_00]: All that said, it would be good if Kellen could have the offensive version of that for Chuck in the run game.
- 46:01[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, this defense is going to be apt.
- 46:04[SPEAKER_00]: Chuck doesn't score two Russian touchdowns against the bucks.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're going to be so honed in and stopping down, shutting down, shutting the run game.
- 46:13[SPEAKER_00]: What can you call and manipulate the defense off of that?
- 46:17[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're going to be expecting it.
- 46:18[SPEAKER_01]: That's the level of the ship through some way to do a hook and ladder toss play a sub you could do something with that You can't let them take that you put that on tape you could do something with that because you know they're gonna be gonna for you You know it they don't want to be they don't want to be on a You know like a live and all that stuff with you know they try to do that so they're gonna be good Hold it try to stop you that shit being on a good morning good morning the book ball
- 46:49[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, J.
- 46:51[SPEAKER_00]: Ballet said, what does Nussmire do?
- 46:53[SPEAKER_00]: What does Tosing do?
- 46:54[SPEAKER_00]: Draw on their iPads, Candy Crush?
- 46:56[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, Doug Nussmire has been, I think all three have, especially Nussmire and Tosing have been very crucially important to the development of spout the young quarterback on the team.
- 47:10[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, especially both, Scott Tosing really do a lot of work with the quarterbacks.
- 47:15[SPEAKER_01]: Like Chuck and Rathop are like a lot of work.
- 47:18[SPEAKER_01]: lot of the stuff that we talked about with Chuck with the pressure up, you know, pressure up the middle and like he made that a focus actually during his development to like, okay, let's focus on that.
- 47:30[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying doing that in scout team and all that stuff making sure he's handling the pressure and coming up with different ways to practice those reps and stuff like that.
- 47:38[SPEAKER_01]: So I was doing a good job, man.
- 47:41[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't, I ain't not
- 47:44[SPEAKER_01]: offense is like, yeah, we could use a little more, but killing more is supposed to be your supposed to be that big brain in the room, you know what I'm saying?
- 47:53[SPEAKER_00]: Like, cooking it up.
- 47:54[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's just, that's the frustrating thing with him where he will.
- 48:01[SPEAKER_00]: All things sometimes perfectly like the shut the shut the shut design run Perfect call right time execute it well Except his but then you then on like this third down that would have ice the game He's calling like this weird Well, I don't even know what that play was with I have no idea what that fucking play for you.
- 48:21[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like why would you call that on third and eleven?
- 48:23[SPEAKER_01]: I was just
- 48:25[SPEAKER_01]: That just it blows on my but you write bro, like I was watching it when I watch a tape I was like, oh, that's cool.
- 48:30[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.
- 48:31[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's not like he He designed some nice stuff sometimes bro, like route concepts and stuff like that that puts the defense in the quandary He does do some good stuff, but you know, we just don't see it consistently enough
- 48:46[SPEAKER_00]: And like the other and like the bigger head coaching stuff, like, you know, not challenging for the first down on the run.
- 48:54[SPEAKER_01]: And then, like, and he did say that was because they didn't play the replay, which was still kind of his fault, because he said they were in no hurry, so they got the offense back out there.
- 49:07[SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't play the replay back.
- 49:10[SPEAKER_00]: of the first down or whatever we should have been the first down right so they didn't have a chance to really get a good look at it to challenge it whatever but I'm like many companies will be sitting there watching like supposed to be right there looking at the line they didn't even know he should have challenged it it's like yeah yes yes we know we're well aware all right let's wrap this up talking about St. Steve it's going against his
- 49:39[SPEAKER_00]: I've just seen that over the last month, over the last month, the Saints have been a top 5 defense account of 1, top 5, top 5 and EP allow a brook, top 5, has what, what?
- 50:01[SPEAKER_01]: And look, we're going to do a pretty good use by the little protocol to prick.
- 50:06[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we don't, we don't have one this week, we good.
- 50:08[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
- 50:09[SPEAKER_01]: No one to do it.
- 50:10[SPEAKER_01]: Still underdog, black party.
- 50:11[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, yes.
- 50:13[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, people was in my business like, oh, you know, trust your eyes.
- 50:17[SPEAKER_01]: This is not a type of difference.
- 50:18[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, I get all that, like I get it.
- 50:20[SPEAKER_01]: But like, come on, now as we take in small wins, like this is a difference that is not talented.
- 50:26[SPEAKER_01]: We know this.
- 50:27[SPEAKER_01]: So to be able, like this is what you want to see.
- 50:29[SPEAKER_01]: You want to see the coaching come through and find those little ways to win and manage the game.
- 50:37[SPEAKER_01]: And do you have not been getting blown up?
- 50:38[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, yes, we had to Seattle game early the year,
- 50:43[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the Buffalo Bill was put up points for us ended again, but even like, but even in that, even in that Buffalo game brother, there was a period where the bills were like, the one thing I asked for is I wanted Josh, Josh, I'm on the side on the side line for quarter stress that whole stress was stress.
- 51:00[SPEAKER_00]: They were like, are we going to, are we going to lose to, yeah, we're going to lose and a lot that because did the things have won a shaker had an interception that game.
- 51:11[SPEAKER_00]: The defense played well in spurs against the bills.
- 51:14[SPEAKER_00]: The worst game defensively that they played were the ramps.
- 51:20[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, from start, start, start finished.
- 51:24[SPEAKER_00]: Just shot me.
- 51:25[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't, didn't look like they belonged on a field.
- 51:28[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's at the game.
- 51:30[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my god, oh my god, like shit was just wide open almost every snap.
- 51:35[SPEAKER_00]: With all the, we don't deserve to be here.
- 51:39[SPEAKER_00]: But,
- 51:39[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta give, you gotta give Reddit to Brandon Staley because he was someone who was a concern of ours as a hire.
- 51:52[SPEAKER_00]: Coming from a situation where he there wasn't quote unquote like a lot of talent on this defense he was with the chargers when he had Bosa he had Darren James he had a clill mac and even those defenses were highly underwhelming with like all got what is he going to do with this with this defense Taking a year off being a San Francisco having that reset year He has probably done I don't say it like especially like this last month, but just he has probably done some of his
- 52:22[SPEAKER_00]: best overall coaching at a defense coordinator in his career.
- 52:26[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's a high degree.
- 52:28[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, man.
- 52:29[SPEAKER_01]: I agree because that's what like when you talk about coaching, that's what you really look for is like, okay, we know you could take call a fame pro ball all pro players and play great defense, like, okay, shocker, like, yeah, you could take great players and do good football, of course.
- 52:49[SPEAKER_01]: But if you could take players,
- 52:50[SPEAKER_01]: You know, with lumps that aren't perfect and, you know, aren't good at everything that are young, some are old, and you could just have them perform as a unit and find ways to put your team in a winning position, that's when you're showing me something, that's when you're showing me something.
- 53:09[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty much what they do, bro.
- 53:11[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's frustrating to time watching it.
- 53:13[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God.
- 53:14[SPEAKER_01]: Not good against the run, not you could really do about that.
- 53:19[SPEAKER_01]: But they find ways to annoy the shit out of teams, probably annoy the annoyance.
- 53:25[SPEAKER_01]: Offences just be like, God damn, like, why are we on it?
- 53:28[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, why are we only putting up 13 points right now?
- 53:31[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a head span.
- 53:33[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that I'd say to like, what?
- 53:36[SPEAKER_00]: We were, it's going to go back to this, you know, I know we talked about this on a preview pod for the first Panthers game, but we was like, man, like, they got to shut down, you know, the run game, would Rico doubt, you know, Dow, what he had been done, had done up to that point, they shut down the Panthers run game and that was it.
- 53:53[SPEAKER_00]: And this is going to be paramount for them to do the same thing in this game, I want to see
- 54:02[SPEAKER_00]: how they, I want to see how this thing's defense does now that they have had some some success, right?
- 54:10[SPEAKER_00]: Even in that first bucks game, they shut down that bucks offense.
- 54:13[SPEAKER_00]: That first one's game, like they really stellar against the bucks in that first bucks game.
- 54:19[SPEAKER_00]: Rams game, Rams blew him out.
- 54:23[SPEAKER_00]: Even the dolphins game, some of that was just two are going to up and the run game that, you know, might my Daniels cook up is great, but they play, you know, well against, against the dolphins.
- 54:36[SPEAKER_00]: So can they continue to do what they have been doing, you know, Chase Young, Creep had his best game, I guess the buck that he's had since like the bills game probably.
- 54:47[SPEAKER_00]: great against against the box can that continue when you have an offense who's going to be determined to score points because essentially like there's seasons on the line for for the
- 55:15[SPEAKER_01]: Chase Young has continued to play well.
- 55:16[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have a sack in it against the books, but I thought he was active in his hell.
- 55:20[SPEAKER_01]: Was just disrupting things.
- 55:23[SPEAKER_01]: So we just need more that, more that, more call gradation.
- 55:27[SPEAKER_01]: Rough, back out there, doing things.
- 55:31[SPEAKER_01]: They could ship it ahead, like a good game.
- 55:33[SPEAKER_01]: He did.
- 55:34[SPEAKER_01]: It's getting like positive play out a lot of guys.
- 55:37[SPEAKER_01]: For C, you had a couple of Splash, please.
- 55:39[SPEAKER_01]: Like for C does, like he would just pop up out of nowhere
- 55:42[SPEAKER_01]: like a nice play like I could give you like three like three a game like three games like oh, you can see, you know, like we need more of that.
- 55:52[SPEAKER_01]: Not too much though, not too much.
- 55:53[SPEAKER_01]: I'll lay down a little bit Brian.
- 55:56[SPEAKER_01]: The perfect game.
- 55:57[SPEAKER_01]: I would love it to game broke out like a street shoot out like the shoot out.
- 56:03[SPEAKER_01]: 30 32 to the, I don't know, 28 or something.
- 56:09[SPEAKER_01]: Panthers, Panthers going late.
- 56:11[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't sense anything to do, but I would love to see the offense finally getting like a little shoot out, a little back and forth.
- 56:17[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just jabbing, you know, and then, you know, come away with the long.
- 56:22[SPEAKER_01]: Like you lose that game, but you put up like 28 points or 30 points is like, shit, they'll put up 30 points, boy.
- 56:28[SPEAKER_00]: But the last quarter of Cook shoot out that they had honestly was against the the Niners and we too, you right.
- 56:38[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of shoot up.
- 56:41[SPEAKER_00]: They scored three touchdowns that game.
- 56:43[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 56:44[SPEAKER_00]: And then this is the first time I believe that they've scored three touchdowns against the buck since that game.
- 56:51[SPEAKER_01]: Which is that home in a domed a rain and all that stuff.
- 56:56[SPEAKER_01]: So let's share it.
- 56:57[SPEAKER_00]: I would mind to see the offense just kind of light it up a little bit, you know, one thing I don't think I'd have to go back.
- 57:03[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Coker played.
- 57:05[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he did when we played the first.
- 57:07[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he did or not.
- 57:09[SPEAKER_00]: He might have been on IR still.
- 57:11[SPEAKER_00]: But
- 57:12[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be interesting to see how Branden's daily deals with Tatorum milling in the second matchup because he had a pretty, very quiet game very quiet, very quiet.
- 57:23[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I've seen their member watch and I take and he was getting open.
- 57:28[SPEAKER_01]: like test not getting open, but either Bryce wasn't hitting him, or when he did hit him, he would drop it or whatever.
- 57:36[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know what I'm saying, this was an inconsistent game for like the whole offense.
- 57:40[SPEAKER_01]: So if he gets the cooking, Ted, oh, but he could put it on.
- 57:44[SPEAKER_01]: He could put it on cool labor.
- 57:46[SPEAKER_01]: He could put it on cool.
- 57:46[SPEAKER_01]: And the way the same stuff is it, like he's so good at finding those soft zones.
- 57:50[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what he thinks like to do.
- 57:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 57:52[SPEAKER_01]: He's so good at finding those zones, Broadway.
- 57:54[SPEAKER_01]: He don't even recommend who he
- 57:57[SPEAKER_01]: He just knows how to find those holes in the offense.
- 58:00[SPEAKER_01]: It's all on Bryce Young, can he?
- 58:02[SPEAKER_01]: Will he have enough time to get there and get there?
- 58:05[SPEAKER_01]: Because they didn't like rushing young.
- 58:07[SPEAKER_01]: And he has three, four seconds to stay back then, scan the field.
- 58:11[SPEAKER_01]: Gonna be a long day.
- 58:12[SPEAKER_00]: Long game.
- 58:14[SPEAKER_00]: The Tony said before the season, we all thought that defense was going to be in the same zip code of the 2012 defense.
- 58:19[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty damn good job coaching by Staley.
- 58:22[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 58:22[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, bro.
- 58:24[SPEAKER_01]: Seriously, I thought it was going to be one of the worst
- 58:27[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was going to be worse than last year and it was terrible last year.
- 58:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 58:31[SPEAKER_01]: So to be like much improved from last year, I'm completely to the point where you can look at the defense and say like, okay, if that, this, this, this, this, now we got something.
- 58:41[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
- 58:42[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is why like I'm still at the point at, you know, let's, you know, they're picking Bible brawl right now.
- 58:50[SPEAKER_00]: Don't, don't think, you know, our bill Reese is going to be there, but just the thought
- 58:57[SPEAKER_00]: The thought of Brandon Staley getting him like an arborist or, and I know people are not going to want to hear.
- 59:02[SPEAKER_00]: I know people are going to want to hear, and people don't think he's like that great.
- 59:06[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want, I don't think people understand how difficult it is to scout safety, especially for safety, who don't get a lot of error assumptions.
- 59:16[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard.
- 59:18[SPEAKER_00]: And if it is, it's hard, it's incredibly difficult.
- 59:23[SPEAKER_00]: But for him to get a player like Caleb Downs at five,
- 59:27[SPEAKER_00]: the smarts, the intelligence, the athleticism, the trooper, like Joker of a defense, so you can use however you want.
- 59:35[SPEAKER_00]: Not saying that he would,
- 59:38[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a cop to Darren James, but Stanley could use him kind of maybe similar and how he used Darren James when you had him in a late or how he used Jaylon Ramsey when he had him with the Ramsey.
- 59:52[SPEAKER_00]: That's the type of player that Caleb Downs is in terms of his like versatility kind of like Kyle Hamilton is.
- 59:58[SPEAKER_00]: You get Brandon Staley that and then you go in the
- 1:00:08[SPEAKER_01]: You build something, you build something, you know, it's all about this pieces to the puzzle.
- 1:00:14[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to build a room in a day, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:00:17[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take a while to get this defense back to like being really great, but like a piece like killed down just like a legitimate piece.
- 1:00:27[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:00:28[SPEAKER_01]: That's like nice piece to your defense.
- 1:00:30[SPEAKER_01]: That's at a play for years for you.
- 1:00:32[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to throw this last hypothetical at you right now, just because of my mind as we wrap up.
- 1:00:40[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say the Saints end up picking 5-8, 5-8, and you can select between Caleb Downs,
- 1:00:57[SPEAKER_00]: The only reason I'm leaving Jordan Tyson out of this conversation for my for this thought exercise.
- 1:01:04[SPEAKER_00]: This is injuries, scare the shadow me, and I don't know how high the saint scouts or maybe just team overall are high on him.
- 1:01:13[SPEAKER_00]: I'm giving you those three to pick from 5 to 8, who are you who are you drafting right now.
- 1:01:23[SPEAKER_01]: tough me man.
- 1:01:24[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have like an extensive study on Cardinal T on none of them, honestly.
- 1:01:30[SPEAKER_01]: But I just I feel safer with Caleb down.
- 1:01:36[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I like this of Cardinal T. Like I'm United, I'm not opposed to taking him, you know, in the top 10 at all.
- 1:01:44[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not opposed to it.
- 1:01:46[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, over Caleb though.
- 1:01:51[SPEAKER_01]: I think I could kill a burn.
- 1:01:52[SPEAKER_01]: I think I could kill up there.
- 1:01:53[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like this is more of a blue chip just like this.
- 1:01:57[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's gonna be, this is gonna be like that player that you put out when you show a picture of your defense on those little, you know, saints game V. Yep, yep.
- 1:02:06[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be on front cover, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:02:08[SPEAKER_01]: You're defense, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:02:10[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just feel like just that type of player, like that's just that lead.
- 1:02:13[SPEAKER_01]: Like you think about when,
- 1:02:15[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the same's got Jonathanville movement.
- 1:02:16[SPEAKER_01]: He treated it for him for just how much that just, I don't know, it just like lift the aura of the whole defense.
- 1:02:23[SPEAKER_01]: Just him coming to the Saints.
- 1:02:24[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:02:25[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Caleb Donalds could be that type of just player for the Saints.
- 1:02:29[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like the old guard passes on, you know, okay, Caleb, Cam Jordan, make the ever year left, you know, tomorrow Davis, you need some of those big dogs to come through, and I think Caleb Donalds could be that.
- 1:02:40[SPEAKER_00]: I do too.
- 1:02:41[SPEAKER_00]: I would, I would, I think if you were to give me the order I would go in, it would be downs, tate, and then love.
- 1:02:49[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the hell.
- 1:02:50[SPEAKER_00]: The love thing, bro.
- 1:02:55[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the, if you are a, I guess the argument for love is, all right, take those runs, those like impressive runs that Devin Neil had on Sunday at the bucks and then, and then imagine it being during my love.
- 1:03:13[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean?
- 1:03:14[SPEAKER_00]: That's the, that's the argument.
- 1:03:17[SPEAKER_00]: And I would
- 1:03:23[SPEAKER_01]: just I'm just not there as far as like where the Saints are in their rebuilding process I'm just not there yet and I'm not saying I wouldn't take a run-and-back early but like the talent got to be like like if it was a reason why I wasn't oh give me give me I would wouldn't even quite not give me not at all don't care don't care give me but and then this is not a knock on your my love
- 1:03:46[SPEAKER_01]: Really good player, but he's not like, ah, that's an exceptional talent and we're in the back.
- 1:03:53[SPEAKER_01]: I don't write his exceptional like that.
- 1:03:54[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying, really, really good, but not exceptional.
- 1:03:58[SPEAKER_00]: I would, this sounds weird to say, but I feel like he's on the similar, similar tier, at least for me as a draft nick as Ascent Ginti was at the product.
- 1:04:12[SPEAKER_00]: Spiderman, like, really good running back prospect, but not elite, in terms of, in terms of like, I'm just a running back prospect.
- 1:04:23[SPEAKER_00]: Like, be John Robinson was an elite running back prospect.
- 1:04:27[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's that question?
- 1:04:29[SPEAKER_00]: Time for me, oh, oh, my wife, my white well, bro.
- 1:04:35[SPEAKER_00]: Love me some time.
- 1:04:40[SPEAKER_00]: asks, are we sure about Fulwaga?
- 1:04:42[SPEAKER_00]: I hate to be that guy, but is it because the sense of how deep is it?
- 1:04:47[SPEAKER_00]: Is it because the sense of how the past too much from behind?
- 1:04:51[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Fulwaga thing is it's concerning.
- 1:04:54[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like to talk about it.
- 1:04:59[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the last game you played just left me really worried about it.
- 1:05:03[SPEAKER_01]: Not just from the edge of your standpoint, I'm like, man, is he still good?
- 1:05:08[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll just know you want to talk about it because I don't think about it with the blind or more tired of it, sick of it.
- 1:05:15[SPEAKER_01]: And look, he's been banged up all year, like ankle, bank, knee, everything.
- 1:05:23[SPEAKER_01]: So he gets a full pass this year for not playing like exceptional, obviously, and he did a position switch even though he was an OG position, and I completely get it.
- 1:05:34[SPEAKER_01]: So like, let's just...
- 1:05:35[SPEAKER_01]: let him, that's the process you shut him down.
- 1:05:37[SPEAKER_01]: Like just shut him down, focus on whatever you got to do.
- 1:05:41[SPEAKER_01]: Surgery, rehab, rest, whatever.
- 1:05:44[SPEAKER_01]: And let's look to the future.
- 1:05:46[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's what's stop worrying about this year.
- 1:05:48[SPEAKER_01]: And get to the next year.
- 1:05:50[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so because it's just toy part and burl like that's, you wanna know like, okay, I got my right tag on my left tag.
- 1:05:55[SPEAKER_01]: Left tag, go ahead.
- 1:05:56[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we say at all, season like, we've got our two bookings, we figured it out.
- 1:06:01[SPEAKER_01]: We've got our two bookings, we ain't gonna worry about.
- 1:06:03[SPEAKER_01]: that's what I want to feel like next year next year.
- 1:06:07[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to think about the right tackle.
- 1:06:08[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know man.
- 1:06:10[SPEAKER_00]: Don't brush.
- 1:06:12[SPEAKER_00]: This is a very, very like marked thing to say, but like a vlogger retirement.
- 1:06:18[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're in the, you're in the, you're in the office, and we feel like a shit gun blast.
- 1:06:23[SPEAKER_01]: And my god, damn chance.
- 1:06:24[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my dog gone back to, where you from?
- 1:06:28[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know some more something just gone.
- 1:06:31[SPEAKER_00]: We're tired of it bro, you can get game night at me anymore, bro.
- 1:06:34[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna walk around where and he's got down Soxin soxin flip flops, bro Just they make you got to go in your after I don't know if I knew from you talking to Well, we've had it.
- 1:06:52[SPEAKER_01]: Now you have no traffic, bro.
- 1:06:54[SPEAKER_01]: Just don't drop Those who were
- 1:06:58[SPEAKER_00]: You would not see me if, if, if, if Wager retired this off season, I'm not coming, I'm, I'm, I'm not coming to rural as for the driver.
- 1:07:07[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing it.
- 1:07:08[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to do it, I'm not doing it.
- 1:07:09[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to bring some, uh, cut ones.
- 1:07:12[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be there anyway, uh, this one went a little long.
- 1:07:15[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate all, uh, y'all who have watched and listened to this episode, uh, we really appreciate it.
- 1:07:22[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back on Sunday later in Sunday because the Saints are playing it.
- 1:07:27[SPEAKER_00]: 125, 325, depending on where you are, or I guess also 425, or at least goes.
- 1:07:33[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back on Sunday with the live stream with the Zoom if you're a Patreon Patron.com.
- 1:07:39[SPEAKER_00]: Slast Lane Spark Party, and then we'll have our recap pot up.
- 1:07:42[SPEAKER_00]: Sunday evening as well, Saints, Panthers, week 15, closing out to 2025, NFL season.
- 1:07:50[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be there.
- 1:07:50[SPEAKER_00]: We have it covered.
- 1:07:51[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate y'all.
- 1:07:52[SPEAKER_00]: We love y'all with that.
- 1:07:54[SPEAKER_00]: We are out.
- 1:07:56[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.