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RHONY: Ramona Sings The Blues · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: You know, we're just really we're stunned and shocked by
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  Speaker 1: how things went down and they should not have gone
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  Speaker 1: down that way.
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  Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into my conversation with Romona Singer right after
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  Speaker 3: these quick ads.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops.
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  Speaker 3: Today we have an exclusive and exclusive with one of
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  Speaker 3: my top ten greatest housewives of all time, Yes, Ramona Singer.
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  Speaker 2: This one was very.
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  Speaker 3: Informative, juicy, I mean, Ramona answered at the single question
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  Speaker 3: that I asked. She left nothing off the table. She
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  Speaker 3: was very honest and she told her truth. We get
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  Speaker 3: into what happened this past season on the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 3: of New York City, what happened between her and Ebany K. Williams,
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  Speaker 3: an investigation that was launched due to accusations that Ramona
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  Speaker 3: was a racist, and we get into whether or not
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  Speaker 3: she would like to return to the Real Housewives of
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  Speaker 3: New York City Legacy edition. This interview is for the books.
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  Speaker 3: Without further ado, Here is my conversation with Ramona Singer.
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  Speaker 3: I am here with the legend, the pop icon, the woman.
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  Speaker 3: No matter what situation she's in, she makes it funny.
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  Speaker 3: She may not make it nice, Derinda, but she makes
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  Speaker 3: it funny. We're talking about Ramona.
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  Speaker 4: That's very sweet thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, listen, I'm so happy you're on this podcast. You
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  Speaker 3: made it out of one hundred and forty eight housewives.
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  Speaker 3: You are in my top ten of the greatest housewives
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  Speaker 3: of all time?
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to believe. But now when I've been on
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  Speaker 4: for so.
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  Speaker 1: Many seasons and I see how people vote me and
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  Speaker 1: I was in your top ten, I'm like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: guess I am doing something maybe right along the lines.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think you are. And listen, you are such
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  Speaker 2: a joy to watch.
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  Speaker 3: You are formidable when we get to see you just
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  Speaker 3: being yourself, like even episode one, season one, and we
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  Speaker 3: saw this competitive nature between you and Jill playing tennis,
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  Speaker 3: and I think for us it was the opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: see like we're embarking on something very special here because
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  Speaker 3: no shade to the OC. I wasn't too fond of
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  Speaker 3: the OC in the beginning. I was like, what am
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  Speaker 3: I watching?
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  Speaker 2: This is boring? So when New York came on board,
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 3: An opportunity to see some freshness, to see people who
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  Speaker 3: were unfiltered, and to see the high society of New
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  Speaker 3: York City.
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  Speaker 2: What made you want want to be a part of
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  Speaker 2: that show. In the beginning, it's a very good question.
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  Speaker 4: When I was first asked, I thought, okay, this could
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  Speaker 4: be good. Why not?
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  Speaker 1: And then I decided I started negotiating the contract, and
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  Speaker 1: then I decided, you know what, I don't have time
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  Speaker 1: for this. I'm already famous, so cold with my friends,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't need to be famous famous. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need that kind of attention and I don't have the
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  Speaker 1: time for it. So I said no. And then I
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  Speaker 1: went to Polo where the horses played the games so
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  Speaker 1: people know, and cause my ex husband and my daughter
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  Speaker 1: are away and I took my girlfriend there and I ran too.
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  Speaker 1: One of the producers and this is Vermont. Why wan't
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  Speaker 1: you do the show? We want you really to do
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  Speaker 1: the show. I go, well, I'm not going to do
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  Speaker 1: the show because number one, I don't have time. They go,
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  Speaker 1: come on, it won't be that much, like an hour
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  Speaker 1: or two a week. Of course, that was lie number one.
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  Speaker 1: Then I said, well, you don't understand. I'm like ten
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  Speaker 1: years older than most of these women. So I already
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  Speaker 1: done the charities.
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  Speaker 4: And all that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't do the parties and go to the charities
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  Speaker 1: for two hundred, three hundred hundred people. I do smell
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  Speaker 1: dinner parties for ten, twelve, fifteen, eighteen people.
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  Speaker 4: They go, fine, we'll film that.
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  Speaker 1: Go no, no, no, no, My friends will not want
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  Speaker 1: to be filmed at all. And they go, well, that's okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have plenty else to film.
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  Speaker 4: I go, what do you mean, I'll be boring.
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  Speaker 1: Boring, that's my competitive nature. They go, Ramona, You're nothing
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  Speaker 1: but boring. And then like a little light bulb went
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  Speaker 1: off of my mind. So my ex and I were
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  Speaker 1: developing this website called True Faith Jewelry, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: I as long as you're willing to promote it on
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  Speaker 1: the show, I'll do it. And they said, we have
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  Speaker 1: to get back to you, and they did. And I
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  Speaker 1: still remember this day. Avery is eleven years old or twelve,
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  Speaker 1: so you're talking about like literally sixteen years ago where
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  Speaker 1: we would dine every night as a family, formal dinners
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  Speaker 1: every night with the wine glasses and the china and
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  Speaker 1: the candles. And I looked at Avery and I said, Avery,
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  Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to do a TV show. I
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  Speaker 1: know it's going to be big. I predicted we'd average
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  Speaker 1: one million viewers. I have a little bit of psychicist
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  Speaker 1: in me.
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  Speaker 4: And we did. And we're not doing it to be famous.
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  Speaker 1: You like your tennis lessons, you like going to private school,
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  Speaker 1: you like vacations, and you know, business changes, and this
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  Speaker 1: is a way for your father to expand his business.
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  Speaker 1: And we're doing it for his business, to promote the website.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, but you know you're going to be
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  Speaker 1: we have to be on all.
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  Speaker 4: The same page.
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  Speaker 1: She would maybe be in the limelight, and we have
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  Speaker 1: to all be together on this because we're a family.
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  Speaker 4: And we all agreed and we did it.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm so happy you did it because without you,
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  Speaker 3: there wouldn't be a second season.
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  Speaker 2: And I want you to know that, as as a.
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  Speaker 3: Ronie fan, as a housewife historian myself, what made me
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  Speaker 3: fall in love with Ronie season one was you. Bethany
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  Speaker 3: was great, you know, but Bethany at that time because
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  Speaker 3: she was in a relationship, so she wasn't the and
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  Speaker 3: I mean this respectfully, she wasn't the loud mouth she
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  Speaker 3: is today expressive.
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  Speaker 1: She's being a little hindered because you had a very
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  Speaker 1: wonderful boyfriend, necessary important, you know, important job, and she
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  Speaker 1: had to watch her piece and cues.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit with you respect, and honey, you don't
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  Speaker 3: watch your p's or cues your l's yours.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting a little better.
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  Speaker 2: I have gotten better.
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  Speaker 4: I have gotten better.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't want I don't want you to get better.
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  Speaker 4: I watched a little bit, just a little better, and.
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  Speaker 3: Watching season one, I was so happy to see this
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  Speaker 3: world that we were embarking on because at the time
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  Speaker 3: I was living in New York City and it was
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  Speaker 3: nice to see like this upper echelon world. And then
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  Speaker 3: let's fast forward to season two and the show became bigger.
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  Speaker 3: Do you really believe that the Royal Housewives of New
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  Speaker 3: York City is the franchise that put Housewives on the map?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a boat of contention with Vicki. But I
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  Speaker 1: went to a very huge Bravo event in California and
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  Speaker 1: this gentleman's name something like Bond.
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  Speaker 4: And he came over to me, James Bond. He minded
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  Speaker 4: Jack I could tease him.
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  Speaker 1: His last name was Bond and he was very big
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  Speaker 1: in the advertising revenue, and he said, I want you
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  Speaker 1: to know you and all your other counterparts. House of
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  Speaker 1: New York put Bravo on the map. So I didn't
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  Speaker 1: come up with that, he told me, and that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, became an international show.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, we were in every.
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  Speaker 1: Paper, New York Times, the Post, Daily News and New Yorker.
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  Speaker 1: My goodness, All Housewives took a feature two pages and
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  Speaker 1: Harper's Bizarre a Fashion.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who else got that? Nobody?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody, And we're written up constantly in the press, almost
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  Speaker 1: to an obsessive amount.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's true, and it's funny because when that came out,
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  Speaker 3: I was working on Atlanta Housewives, and then Atlanta Housewives
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  Speaker 3: became a big show too, And there is this debate,
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  Speaker 3: at least on social media, whether it's the OC, New
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  Speaker 3: York City or Atlanta. So you're standing by that because
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  Speaker 3: the advertising executive said to you, honey, this show is
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  Speaker 3: creating momentum based on how we're able to sell advertisement
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  Speaker 3: during the commercials on this particular franchise.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, and all of a sudden, everye knew what
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  Speaker 1: Bravo was. Bravo was known, but not that well known,
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  Speaker 1: and OC was known. But yes, OC was the first show. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not taking that away. But because of our uniqueness
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  Speaker 1: of the original cast, we were so unique and so
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  Speaker 1: special and just saw authentic that people gravity. We were called,
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  Speaker 1: my words, a show that when you go in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: you hang out by.
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  Speaker 4: The coffee or the water, people are talking about us.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I love that nowadays the show seems to be up
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  Speaker 3: in the air. And I know that you're somebody who's
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  Speaker 3: proud of the show. You are the longest running housewife
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  Speaker 3: from New York City. When you look at where the
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  Speaker 3: show is now, do you think the show is now
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  Speaker 3: at a point to where the magic is gone?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just think sometimes in the world, people are
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  Speaker 1: afraid to do I don't want to say the right things.
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  Speaker 1: They want to do things that are politically correct. And
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  Speaker 1: just because something is politically correct doesn't mean it's right
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  Speaker 1: and doesn't mean it's good for viewers or for sales
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  Speaker 1: or for ad money. And sometimes people are just afraid
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  Speaker 1: to change things. And I thought, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I am very disappointed that they got rid of everybody
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  Speaker 1: starting fresh, because you know, I put my heart and
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  Speaker 1: soul in this show. So whether they renew me or not,
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  Speaker 1: that really isn't the issue for me. It's about how
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  Speaker 1: you could end it, you know, stop having sown near
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  Speaker 1: Lwin and I believe they did it because they were
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  Speaker 1: afraid Bravo, they were afraid of a backlash.
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  Speaker 4: So that's my personal opinion.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think the backlash they were afraid of had
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  Speaker 3: to do with people saying that Ramona's problematic, she's the issue,
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  Speaker 3: or your dispats with Ebony?
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I don't really know. I mean, Ebanie
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  Speaker 1: and I are friendly. I admire Ebony. We still contact
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  Speaker 1: each other. Yes, we had some conflict, of course, the
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  Speaker 1: show is conflict. But I'll tell you something. Ebanie was
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  Speaker 1: one of the few newbies that came on the show
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  Speaker 1: that I befriended immediately. Usually I was sort of haze them,
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  Speaker 1: I give a bad time, but she and I bonded immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's funny because we had Ebony on the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the things that I did share with
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  Speaker 3: Ebony was as a huge Ronie fan. When that season
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  Speaker 3: started with Ebony, I stopped watching in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the season and she said what I did too, And
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  Speaker 3: I said to her, listen, I felt it was becoming
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  Speaker 3: a show where I was constantly being fed educational pieces
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  Speaker 3: and if I wanted to watch the show about politics,
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  Speaker 3: I would tune into.
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  Speaker 2: The view because I'm obsessed with the view.
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  Speaker 3: And I said to her, based on me being a
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  Speaker 3: reality TV executive but also a housewife historian, for me,
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  Speaker 3: I felt like the show lost is magic because it
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  Speaker 3: was always just about the fun, wacky nature of these
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  Speaker 3: women who are true friends. And I said to her,
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  Speaker 3: I do feel like there is a responsibility in terms
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  Speaker 3: of ownership. And she and I had a great conversation
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  Speaker 3: where she said that she felt responsibility to bring up
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  Speaker 3: issues based on where we are in the world right
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  Speaker 3: and she felt like she was cast for that, and
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  Speaker 3: that's when I got a better understanding when she wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: But she wasn't casta if you see they tape us
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  Speaker 1: with other housewives, like I tape it to the test taste,
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  Speaker 1: I tape it for Shawn for like an hour and
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  Speaker 1: we just naturally clicked off. So Ebany originally test taped
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  Speaker 1: with Lewynn, and she was a totally different person and
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  Speaker 1: talked about totally different subjects. She did not show this
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  Speaker 1: other side of her, so no one knew this is
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  Speaker 1: what you wanted to talk about. And also maybe in
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  Speaker 1: her defense, at that point she was engaged as very
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  Speaker 1: wealthy Jewish man.
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  Speaker 4: She was going to become Jewish.
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  Speaker 1: And then the whole relationship fell apart, and maybe this
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  Speaker 1: is the only thing she had to fall back on,
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  Speaker 1: was to talk about, you know, the struggle of herself,
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  Speaker 1: her race. And because you listen, if you're gonna break
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  Speaker 1: up with the man that you think you're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: engaged you and get married and have a baby.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty. That's tough. That's tough.
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  Speaker 1: And again she doesn't really you know, reality show is,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, it's conflict and resolution. And it was
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  Speaker 1: her first year and I don't think she really knew
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  Speaker 1: how to be truly because of everything's going through. And
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, we were all nervous because she
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  Speaker 1: was the first woman of color on the show, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we had another woman, her name is Aary Ellis.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is that we were all friends with
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's because she wasn't truly friends with
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  Speaker 1: us that made a difference, but that we all did
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  Speaker 1: bond with her, We kind of liked her. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: I think she felt she had to take a stand,
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  Speaker 1: and because of that, we lost viewership. I respect her
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  Speaker 1: for wanting to take a stand, but I don't respect
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  Speaker 1: it because I don't like viewership.
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  Speaker 4: I'm competitive.
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  Speaker 2: You wanted to stay number one.
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  Speaker 1: I want our show to be you know what our
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  Speaker 1: show is? Women tell me Ramona. I get home and
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  Speaker 1: I have my glass of wine ready. I'm ready for
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  Speaker 1: turtle time or a vodka and I just can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to laugh. And you know, we rough up a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great viewpoints, but it's meant more for like a
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  Speaker 1: show like the View or for the Fox where she
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  Speaker 1: came from. People are meant to be entertained on our show.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want to be preached to.
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  Speaker 4: We listen. We all like to learn.
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  Speaker 1: I'm learning every day and I like to learn about
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  Speaker 1: different things and different people and different habits and religions
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  Speaker 1: and customs.
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  Speaker 4: But no one wants to be preached.
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  Speaker 1: It almost felt like she was like a teacher to us,
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  Speaker 1: and it was just I was bored, to tell you
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  Speaker 1: the truth, it became boring. And if I'm bored and
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  Speaker 1: I'm filming and this is how I make my income,
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine how the viewers felt when.
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  Speaker 2: You were filming that particular season.
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  Speaker 3: When did you feel like, oh shit, this show is
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  Speaker 3: going downhill?
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  Speaker 1: When we went to Salem, Massachusetts, so we're in Salem
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  Speaker 1: and we're all bonding together, and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden it turned to politics again. You know, I you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a producer, but I could. I think at
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  Speaker 1: this point produced just like you worked your way up.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously the people that were on site weren't doing
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  Speaker 1: the right thing to change the subjects. So I went
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  Speaker 1: into the bathroom and I made a phone call to
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  Speaker 1: the head of shed, to Lisa, and I said, listen, Lisa,
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  Speaker 1: it's happening again. Viewers don't want to watch this. It's
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  Speaker 1: enough enough of politics, enough enough of it. Are you
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  Speaker 1: a Democrat? Are you Republican? Who are you going to
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  Speaker 1: vote for? The viewers don't want to know that that's
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  Speaker 1: what our show is about. And I go, can't you
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  Speaker 1: tell them to tell her to switch? No, we can't
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  Speaker 1: do that. You figure it out. You figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, gosh, it's on me again. So Mike
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  Speaker 1: walk out and I like, okay, let's just change the mood.
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  Speaker 1: All right, girls, come on, let's dance, let's have some
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  Speaker 1: truddle time. And they turned around, Oh, you can't talk
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  Speaker 1: about serious subjects. Yes I can, but I don't want
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  Speaker 1: our viewership to fall to go down the tubes, and
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  Speaker 1: that's when I knew our show was not going to
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  Speaker 1: be a great season.
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  Speaker 3: So let me ask you this prior to that particular scene,
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  Speaker 3: because I remember watching it, and I want to say
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  Speaker 3: two episodes after that when I started watching.
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  Speaker 2: Was politics constantly being.
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  Speaker 3: Brought up while you guys were filming prior to the
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  Speaker 3: trip in Salem?
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  Speaker 4: Well, not by us, but by yeah yah yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And again when I did speak to Ebony, she was
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  Speaker 3: very clear that she did feel like it was her
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  Speaker 3: responsibility and I get that, But let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 3: Carol Radswell was also somebody who constantly talked about politics.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Is that why you knew?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, guys, we're stepping into another territory where people are
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  Speaker 3: talking about politics, because you guys did get ridiculed that
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  Speaker 3: season where it was Trump versus Hillary and Carol and
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  Speaker 3: every scene talked about it and it was such a
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  Speaker 3: big topic of conversation that after reunion that season, Andy
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  Speaker 3: did say a lot of people were curious about, like,
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  Speaker 3: we don't watch the several politics. So is that why
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  Speaker 3: you knew going into that this last season? Oh shit,
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  Speaker 3: here it comes again, politics, And that's why you were
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  Speaker 3: so adamant aboubout not talking about it, Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Because I just know people just don't. They want to
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  Speaker 1: see us have fun. They want us to have us
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  Speaker 1: maybe little.
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  Speaker 4: Overserved a little.
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  Speaker 1: They want to see us left, they want to see
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  Speaker 1: us get crazy. I mean, I was very disappointed. Was
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  Speaker 1: the last episode. Eboni and all the girls were at
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  Speaker 1: my home in the Hampton's and we went loose and wild.
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  Speaker 1: We all bonded together. We were so great together. And
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  Speaker 1: by then the momentum was lost, you know, and it
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: was a great, great episode. So you didn't even tune
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: in because you're already tuned out. But I'm telling you
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: that last episode, I mean, it was fabulous.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I got to go back and watch that.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Then the last episode that a lot of people talked
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: about was the Shaman dinner that Ebony had.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: I believe the Shabbat, the Shabbat, the black Shabat.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Did the black Shabbat dinner? See, I didn't watch this.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait was going on?
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Right? And I said to her, you're having a black
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Schabbat dinner? What do you mean?
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Who has a purple shabat, black chapat, red shapat. Shabbada
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: is a Shabbat why do we call it a black
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Shabbat again? She's making race about everything, and listen, everyone
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: should promote their race. I'm Ukrainian, you're Polish, your you're
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Afro American.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: And being proud of it almost was like being pushed
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: down everyone's throat and that was just it was overkilled?
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Is overkilled?
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Oh child? I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: We'll get back into my conversation with Ramona Singer right after.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: He's quick ass.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Let's get back into my conversation.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: With Ramona Singer. Do you think Ebony is responsible.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: For the show not being renewed in its origin and
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: having to be this split in terms of legacy Ronie
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: and a new diverse cast.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can blame a person. I think
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you couldn't just blame Bravo. Bravo made that decision. I
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think it's a good decision,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. I mean, I don't read
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Instagram a lot. People are like, well, why are having
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: two shows.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: That's like us?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I think it's ridiculous, But that's my opinion.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, BRAVL isn't Brav has been very
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: good to me. I got paid very well. It opened
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: up a lot of doors for me. But I still
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: don't think it was a good decision.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Where were you when you found out that the show
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: is being split into two?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I was an Aspen skiing because ahead of time we
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: had a producer and she was like shocked because wait,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: they were waiting for things to die down and before
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: they were going to start filming, because just so you know,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: we were supposed to start filming in September twenty twenty
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: right after. Yeah, we were all she was gonna be
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: renewed in everything until she made some accusations that weren't
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: true about me.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: We were all set to go.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: What did she say that wasn't true about you?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: She went to human resources, which was really hurtful to me.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And plus it was not true. It was founded untrue
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: that I was a racist. And I'm a lot of things.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: You can call me, unfiltered, not polite, Always in a rush,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I forget people's names, you know, Yes, I'm all of those.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: But one thing I'm I'm not a racist. And the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: press picked that up and they had a field day.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: And that's one thing that's the only negative I don't
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: like about the show is what the press writes, because
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: they'll take a small narrative and just inflate it and
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: make up things. I mean, I mean actually went to
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: a lawyer to say, can I sue the post? You know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it's just very hurtful and everything was unfound of. But
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: because of that, we didn't do a reunion, which I
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: didn't know initially. And people are like, oh, well, they're
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: not doing the reunion because Romona refuses to do it,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, this is my job, my position.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I always fulfilled my position job. But I'm not afraid
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to do anything. And she's afraid to face ebony. No,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: that's not true at all. So that already started it
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and I didn't know that, and because of that, we
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: did not film the reunion, and because of that, our
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: show didn't film in September because Andy told me himself,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: because we have a good relationship. He said, you know, Ramona,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: we normally don't start doing the next season until after
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the reunion airs, but we're going to start after we
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: tape the reunion, and then we're gonna start filming, so
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: we all would have had positions, even Ebony, all of us,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: but because of it went down agent and everything she
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: founded was untrue, unfounded, And I can't share some of
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the things I found, but they were like almost made
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: up fabrications, which is even more hurtful.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Is that the reason why? Because when she was on
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: my podcast, I brought this name up. I want to
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: be very clear that it was me. I asked her,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: was she blackballed from the cast because there were stuff
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: in the posts and the press that detail the cast
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: wasn't They were shunning themselves away from her, like distancing
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: themselves away from her. And I did ask her, like,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: did you fly like you were a black ball from
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the cast? And she said, I'm not going to use
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: the word black ball if you're asking me if the
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: cast and I weren't together and I felt distant, then yes,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: was this ongoing investigation the reason why you and maybe
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: the other cast members just weren't around her as much?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Well, No, what happened was, if you see the last episode,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: we really came together as a team as a cast,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and I really wished it happened earlier where Ebanie finally
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: loosened up we felt more comfortable around her. We were
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: on pins and needles and it was fabulous. We all
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: left on a fabulous note. And then again, she likes
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to write things in the press and the PR department
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: could't control her. She would say things and give interviews
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that she shouldn't have given, and she'd say things she
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have said.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: That you know, really were hurtful, not really truthful.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It was her viewpoint, but it was just it made
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: us feel not good because you know, we're a team. Look,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you know, you and I can fight on the show,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say something shitty about you
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to the press once the show's over, Like, why, what's
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the point of that? So I think what she said
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: something about that we didn't this, and I called her
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: on and I had dinner with her, that we dehumanized her.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: She felt less than human because we were more sympathetic
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to Leah losing her grandmother than her losing her grandmother.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, when I went out with her, we
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: went to j Arago, but you didn't talk about her.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Leah was constantly crying about our grandmother, telling us left
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and right, you're our new friend. We're not going to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: be in truth. So if we're trying to be polite,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you didn't devolt how upset you were. Yet she turned
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: it around and made this all look I think really
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: bad and it really hurt my feelings terribly. And I said,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: promise to me, if you ever have a problem, come
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to me directly.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Let's talk it out.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Don't go to the press to say things that you
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: haven't even talked through us. She's well, you know, i'd
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: watch the show and I see things that get me upset.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I said, don't pick up the phone so she would
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: run to the press, and that was just upsetting to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: all of us.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Where does your relationship stand now with Ebony Well?
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: I called her again recently.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: She was avoiding my call for a month or two,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and I said, I don't understand why you report me
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: to human Resources as a racist.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: You know I'm not.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a lot of things, but I'm not that, And
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why you would say that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And she's well, because you know.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Day from people told me ABC and d Well, I
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: know Dave never said that. Plus I know I knew
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: for a fact other things that she said that came
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: back to me from head people at Bravo, which they said,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know where she got this information.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: She's making it up. We never said that.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: So she was found wrong on a lot of accounts
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: on her accusations that were complete, complete non truth that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: maybe she thought were true in her mind. And by
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I say she lied, maybe in her mind she thought
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: they were true, or maybe somebody else told her it
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: was hearsay. So and hearsay. It's like what they call
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that telephone game, you know. So I called her up
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and she said that's the only thing I said, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you know, and only this is the craziest thing.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Okay. So when I was.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Getting investigated, the lawyers are calling me up and I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: had no idea this was going on. And I'm an
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Aspen and I rented a place there for the month,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and they're saying, well, you have these allegations. And I said,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to be threatened and
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be intimidated by this because you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: could be. I'm just going to be Ramona and just
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: be totally calm and not answer yes or no and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: make it like a conversation. And I said, well, I'm
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: really shocked that she made these accusations against me because
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I have a video of her on my phone saying, Ramona,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I saw you much that happens.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: You're so girl and Sista, you and I have the
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: same taste.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: See that outfit you got from Camilla with love, I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: got the same one. And my mama, she loves you.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: She thinks you're the best thing. And they go their
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: mouth chop, they go, when did you get this? I go,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: August something was like after I guess she made even
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the accusations and I sent them the video.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: They were shocked.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So she's acting like she's my best friend and she
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: loves me, but yet she's accusing me of horrendous things
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: that could ruin my career.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: You're actually you know, because that's a horrible thing.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, actually you know some things I was her
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: career wise because of her accusations.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: You were, Yeah, financially like endorsements, yes, yes, yes.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: They go, we know she's not, but you know we
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: can't go there right now. So yeah, I lost a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: lot of money because of Ebanie. Well listen, we lost
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the reunion six figures, we lost doing another show seven figures,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I lost a lot of money.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Ebony, thank you Are you the only one who feels
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: this way?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Or do your other cast members feel the way but
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: they're too afraid to talk about it publicly.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: You know, you're making me feel so comfortable that I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: would never talk about this publicly. So I hope I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: don't get an outcry from this. But they all feel
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this way, yes, and we all like Ebany. It's not
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: like we don't like her.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Lewyenne finally met with her and she's fine with her.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just I don't know. Ebanie just has
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a stick up her. But sometimes I don't know. I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I'm not I don't know
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Ebony that well, you know, but you know she has
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a relationship with Sonya, she made up with Luyne.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Leah always cared about her.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I always liked her, and you know, we're just really
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: we're stunned and shocked by how things went down, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: they should not have gone down that way.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Are you going to be a part of roney legacy?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I really don't know. Number One, I don't know if
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I will be, And then I don't know if I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: want to do it again.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Why.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: For a lot of reasons, I'm much calmer now that
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I haven't done the show, I don't like I know
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: this is like an oxymoron, but I really don't like
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: being recognized, like, oh my god, it's you, Ramona.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I know you're in a date.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I have a photo, you know. I just I don't
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: like all the attention. And guess what. The men I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: date don't like all the attention.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: How about you?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: My girlfriends. My girlfriends, don't you know, they'll say, oh
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: my gosh, Ramona, I used to go out to lunch
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: with you and twenty people would come up to you.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Now it's only one, you know, So I don't like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: all the attention. I really don't like the press. The
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: press stressed me at with the whole all of that
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: stuff that was really really very hurtful and made me
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: really unhinged, I mean unhinged. And I realize now I'm
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: so much more relaxed. All my friends say I'm fifty
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: percent more calmer. I still have that high energy, but
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not as heart ass. I'm just there's something more gentle,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm actually able to date now in
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a better way. And I just think it's you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I've been there for a long time. I mean never
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: say no, never say never. But I also feel like
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the legacy the cow how can it be really good?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: The people who they are going to bring back are
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: people they didn't want to renew anyway.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: So now, so what are you gonna call it? The
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: loser show?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: A legacy Ramona?
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: So allegedly legacy would be I mean, listen, and I
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: want to say this to you, And I mean when
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I say, there's no Roney without Ramona Singer in our world,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: right the Housewives fans, the historians, we believe the legacy
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: is Ramona Singer, lou Anne, Sonya, Dorinda, maybe Bethany, which
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I get to later, and allegedly Kelly, ben Simone and
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Jill Zarn Is that a cast you can get down with?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because you know, I like Kelly, we
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: have a friendship. But I think she's beautiful and she's
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: smart and she's successful. But there's a reason why she
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: was let go after one and a half seasons or
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: two seasons. You know, Sonya's been on for like, you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: ten seasons, Lawanne, you know a long time, me a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: long time.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Jill.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: They got rid of her after three seasons. There was
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a reason for that, and I like chill. She lives
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in my building. We're friends. I had Russia shawna dinner
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: with her. But I just, you know, from a producer
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: point of view, yeah, yeah, for a selfishport of but yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: this is good.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I'll get paid money, it'll be good, I'll be fun. No,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: from a producer point of view, I don't think it's
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: such a good idea.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: What would you like to see if Ramona had the
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: right to cast women around her? Who would be around
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Ramona on a new Roney Legacy or whatever.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Type of show.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: No, I would just you know, go with me Luan
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and Sonya bring on some new cast members. I think
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: people you know, near like in their forties. We're sure
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: women who are successful in their own right, whether they're
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: married or not married. Diirinda, she Diirinda. I'm not sure
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: if she should be a full cast member. If I
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: make her a part time cast member, and then if
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: she proved herself the next season, make her a full
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: time cast member. Because something's happened that weren't which she knows,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: which was difficult during Ronie where they called me up
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: like what's wrong with Derinda? We're watching the tapes and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: she's so mean, can you help her?
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Can you fix her? Because you know they would always
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: call me, you know.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: This person's doing this, and I was always like the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: group leader, and I always would think, like a producer,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you know, not.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I'd watch out.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: You have the force multiplier, whatever you want to call it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: But I want a successful show. So I think Derinda
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: is great TV. She's fabulous TV when she's on. She's on,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: but she does sometimes have a side of her that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: can be very angry, which is not pleasant for viewers
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: to watch and tell you the truth is not pleasant
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to be around.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Did you see Deranda on Optimate Girl's Trip.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I saw a little bit of it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: What did you think?
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know what did you think?
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: God Marmart, you're such a producer, a force multiplier and
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: my co host.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Look, I like Deranda. I love no Derendze's a fun girl. Now.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Look watching Aultimate Girls Trip, you know that had her
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: moments whereb.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Was like, ooh, girl, let's let's real it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Back in, you know, let's really back in because listen,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I think the Randa and you tell me if I'm wrong.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I think the Randa really wants to make a good
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: TV show.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think Miranda puts a lot of pressure
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: on herself to make a good TV show, and sometimes
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: that pressure can mean drinking things to believe yourselves to
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: be calm.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: But unfortunately it just makes you more very.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Well said, very politically correct and polite. I agree, So
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I agree. I could have said it better.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: That's what That's what I guess.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: That's why I said.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: If I was a producer, I would put her on
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: full I put her on as a friend and then
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: work her way up. Yeah now or and if she
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and I would tell her this sis a producer, but
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I make her a friend. And if she proved herself
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: after you know, taping for three weeks or four weeks
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: or for the whole season, if she just continued to gin,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I would just make her a full person and she
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: would never people would know she was a friend. You'd
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: make her for a full fledged housewife. But just give
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: her that little goal, that challenge, so maybe she can
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: relax herself in a more natural way.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: You know, Yes, Milestones, I love that you're such a producer.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I love it. What about Bethany? Do you think Bethany's
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: needed for the show.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Bethany is always great for TV. She really is Bethany'll
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: never come back.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I don't think. Oh, I can never say, never really said,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: so I don't know. I don't think.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I think she's in a different place now. You know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: she has a significant other in her life. Her daughter's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: getting older. She realized how precious time is with her child.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It goes so fast. So she's able to do her
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: podcast remotely from her home, which is fabulous. So she's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: still getting you know, everyone loves a little bit love
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and attention from the fans, so she's getting that, and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: she's making money. She has a mark made and doing
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: extremely well. So you know, if I was her and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: her shoes, I wouldn't be doing the show, that's for sure.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Do you think when Bethany was on the show the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: show was better?
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: The show is different.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was necessarily better, because when
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: she left season three season four, our ratings improved, they
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: didn't get less, So if it was going to be so,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: she left at the height of our popularity, and yet
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: season four the ratings were even higher.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: How do you feel now that Bethany is being referred
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: to as a TikTok influencer.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I don't really pay that much attention to TikTok, But
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I know she's doing it, and if she is good
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: for her.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Are you surprised that?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: No, because you know Bethany's very bright. She's a really
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: smart girl, and she goes. She knows the trends, so
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: what's happening? She knows the trends and she gets behind it,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you know she does. And she's very smart that way.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: And I know she's doing something that was kind of
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: funn I think she did stuffing stuff with the makeup,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: so maybe she's a come up the makeup line and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I thought it was really fun, like this is good,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: this is bad.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I like this, I don't like this, and I think
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: she's hysterical.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Do you want to continue in reality TV? If roney
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Legacy is not a possibility, if that show wants you
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: back or you don't want to go back, does that
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: mean Ramona Singer is finished with reality television?
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know. That's a very good question, and I
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: can't really answer that. I don't know.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know enjoy it and I know I'm
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: really good at it, but I don't know. I don't
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: know if maybe I'm at a different stage in my
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: life right now and I want to do something different,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I can't answer that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Well, we love seeing you on television and we miss you.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And the other person who missed you was Teresa at
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: her wedding. Ramona, you did not show up to Teresa's wedding.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know what happened.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Well, she was filming it. It's all about the film crew,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and I didn't want to be part of the film crew.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm living a beautiful life right now with
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: beautiful friends. I didn't want to be part of the circus.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It was a circus. And I love Teresa, and I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: know she's very happy with her husband.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Treats her beautifully and they're very in love.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so when you discover, Ramona Singer that in
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a spirit of happiness and celebration of love, you mistakenly
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: posted Teresa's imitation with the website and past were included.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: When you found out you made that mistake, who was
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the first person to call you to tell you?
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Teresa in three minutes, Ramona, take it down, Take it down.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Go what are you talking about the invitation? Ramona?
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I go, oh my gosh, because in my own mind,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I don't consider us famous or celebrities.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know we are, but I'm just kind
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: of my own little world and I didn't think about
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: her that way too.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I was just so excited to get the most gorgeous
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: invitation I ever saw in my life, and I wanted
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to share it with every like, oh, this is good things.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: As you know, Tom's always saying, who helps me with
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: my social media? He's like, can you send me something?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And you go, oh, this is good. Tom's gonna like this,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: this is good.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Oh no, it wasn't good. Well, it was good, got
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: in the press, they got a lot of press.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: She also says she had to pay a lot of
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: money for security, and she feels like you owe her
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: some money.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Ramona, I don't think that's true, but okay, I think
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: it makes a good story.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's the true.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And guess what, it was filmed, so Bravo have to
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: pay the money and they have deep pockets.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Who's got a few wedding specials? Ramona, I think you're right.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: So no, no love lost between you and Teresa.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: No.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I love Teresa. She's a great girl.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm really happy for I mean, she did well on
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, I mean, that had to be
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure for her, and she held her
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: own and it takes a lot of guts and courage
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: to do that. And I think she's in a spectacular place,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and I'm really proud of her.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I have to say, I'm really proud of you because
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: you seem to be in a very good place in
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: your life right now. And I know a lot of
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: people are going to be like, oh please, Ramona, you
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: love being famous. But as somebody who spent fifteen years
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: working with reality stars who all of a sudden become
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: more famous than actors and actresses, I understand that sometimes
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: it's nice to have a little bit of anonymity when
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: it comes to your life and not having the cameras
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: constantly in your face. And I do get the sense
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: from you that this was a much needed break that
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: you may not have thought you needed, especially because of
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: where we are in the world. You know, in terms
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of social media can be a lot. Like you said,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: the press can even be a lot. And one things
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: that people love to talk about when it comes to
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: you is is she a Republican, she a Democrat, she
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: a Trump or she this? And one thing about you
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: is you've always been very private when it came to
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: your life in that arena. Do you feel like there's
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: a place on reality television for politics? And do you
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: think there's a place on reality TV for conservative women?
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I think there's places for everybod TV. But I don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: think it has to be a conversation. You know, it's like,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: why do you have to talk about how much money
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: you earn? I think that's a private conversation. Or do
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: they talk about what religion? You don't think you'd make religion,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: money or politics part of a reality fun TV show?
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we want that. We can watch the view exactly.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: So what's going on in your personal life?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Are you dating? Is there a hot stud muffin that
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: you know you?
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, look at your eyes, Formona, I'm seeing some glistening
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: in the eyes.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Are you in love?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: How heavy?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Like i'd be like, is he a Floridian?
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: No?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Okay? Is he a New Yorker?
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Is he at the Regency?
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: No?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: What can you tell me about this, Gela man? Because
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: your eyes lit up, Romona, your eyes lit up. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: know how long you guys been dating?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I really don't want to talk about it, but it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: it's really it's very it's really nice.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I'm just tell you, it's really nice.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Are you afraid that if you go back on reality TV?
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Do you think it will mess up this relationship?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: No, because anybody that's involved with me knows what I do,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and I keep my personal relationships separate. Very I don't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: think anybody ever knew any gentleman I dated because I
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: kept them out of the press and didn't talk about
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it because I like my private life to be private.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I know I'm doing reality show, but
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I like my private like private because then it just
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: gets too it's too messy.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: You would do reality, but you would make sure that
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: he would never appear because you would want you.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: You would like to keep that separate.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: If I did reality, Yes.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And how's Avery?
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Oh she's great. Just spoke to her. She's in Croatia
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: with her dad right now.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she'll be back in five days or I think
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that zip blinding today. She said, like eight hundred meters high,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: which is about sae eight times three twenty fundred feet,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: which is about half a mile high.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Like, we're just scared.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy for her. And you know what's so funny.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: About Avery, It's sort of like a child star that
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: we watched grow up to be an adult.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I actually called her the Voice of Reason. Oh, she
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: was the first season, the voice of Reason. She'd have
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: her little pearls on and the little pearls and you know,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I don't understand how my mom acts like this with
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: her friends, Like I just don't know.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: She's very cute.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: No, we love Abray, we love Avery.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: So Maramona, when it's all said and done, what would
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: you like your legacy to be?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the most important thing. Then people and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Bravo didn't really you know, they decide how they want
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: to edit you. I mean, yes, I'm acting certain ways,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and of course the camera doesn't lie, but they decide
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: what they want to focus on, and they don't show
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the whole picture.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: So there's a big side of me. Well I am.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I'm self made. I was the first housewife on Ronie
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that you know. I had my own career, my own money,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I had my own homes that I paid for successful businesses,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and they never really showcase that.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: And they do a little bit in the beginning.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: And my mother always told me to be independent, and
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: that's why when I got divorced from my ex husband.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: My life style didn't change because I was a big
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: earner in that marriage and I had a lot of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: money safe and I know how to make money, and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I'm in stealing that in my daughter, and women tell
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: me that they're instilling it in their children. And women
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: tell me how proud they are of me, and how
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you know, things I did as a first woman on
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: HSN Jewelry, I dealed at Penagrizio, you know, so I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: did all these business things and I just I just hope,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: you know, to empower women that way. But the show
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: can't always be it's not always empowering women. Which that's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the one thing I didn't like to tell you the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: truth about Bravo. They they didn't showcase me that way.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times are kind of condescending
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: to women, I think a little bit in my opinion.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: But it's a fun show and it's escapism.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, that's that's the thing that
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I feel most proud about that when I still get
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you know, even you know, women dming me I'm in
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a bad marriage. I need to leave it, and you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I need to start my own business or you know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: whatever you may.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Need to do yeah, no, listen, and I think, look,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I think you will go down in the realities I
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: guised as one of the greatest reality stars, not just housewives.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I think you are probably one of the greatest reality
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: stars to exist because you've always operated in who you
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: were and as somebody who makes a living working with
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: people who become reality stars. I know that sometimes people
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: like to play it to the cameras, or they censor
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: themselves because they don't want to get canceled, and you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: or they they they don't want.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: To be held responsible for things that happen.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: And I will say that, unlike most ogs, and I
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: want to give you this, unlike most ogs, you have
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: always been graceful and graceful for the opportunity to the
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: network and to the show, and you have never bad
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: mouthed anything. You've always just been like, you know, it
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: is what it is. I'm going to live my life.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: And that's the reason why Ramona, I really want to
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: say thank you for coming on the podcast, because I
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: know you don't do a lot of press, honey, and
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: this means the world to me because it is the
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: fact that you felt so comfortable knowing that this would
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: be a conversation of someone who really wanted.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: To give you the opportunity to.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Express yourself, but to also make sure that you knew
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: that me and a lot of people who look like
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: me and the world, we love you, and we want
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: to see you back on television. And I'm going to
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: say this, there's no fucking legacy without Ramota turtle Time singer.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and that's the alternative dictionary turtle Time. How
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: funny is that?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Are you in the Webster dictionary?
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: The alternative dictionary?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Ah, that was an Emmy moment when I did turtle
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Time with that, they go, come on, girls, it's turtle
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Time because it's a turtle club or something. That's an
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: iconic moment for sure. And my runway when it looked
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: like a dear yes, oh my goodness.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, Now listen, you're a pop icon, you really are.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: And I just wanted you to know that we love you,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: we miss seeing you on television, and we're helping that
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: one day we can get that back on television.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Well, it's really easy being with you. I can't even
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: believe how I opened up. I was more unfiltered than
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I even intended to be. But it's because of your
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: genuine and warm spirit and energy that made me do it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: So good for you, Thank you, mama, that's why you're
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: such a good host.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. I like to think so too,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: so I appreciate that. Now, where can people find you?
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Follow you on social media all those wonderful things they
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: support you in your business.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm on Instagram, Ramona Singer, there you go.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: And if you happen to become engage and would like
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: to see them a wedding special, you know who to call.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: You're so funny, Oh rain drops, I cannot wait until
• 41:14
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• 41:17
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• 41:21
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• 41:27
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