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Mom of 2, Dead, Stuffed in Hockey Bag; HANDYMAN/LOVER TAKES SWEETHEART DEAL · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Okay, somebody helped me understand what has just happened in
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Speaker 1: a court of law. Remember the gorgeous mom or Sawya Gale,
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Speaker 1: her handyman, the perv that posted hundreds and hundreds of
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Speaker 1: posts on lines about how to snare women violent sex
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Speaker 1: videos pickup lines just gets cross. Then he goes to
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Speaker 1: or Sawyah's home at night, with her son asleep upstairs.
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Speaker 1: He gets into an argument with her. She doesn't want
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Speaker 1: to let him in. She finally lets him in so
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Speaker 1: he'll quiet down instead of waking up the neighbors. And
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Speaker 1: he murders her. He murders her. He stabbed her at
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Speaker 1: least fifty times, shoves her mutilated body in a duffel bag,
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Speaker 1: drags it down the street, literally leaving a trail of blood,
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Speaker 1: and dumped this mother of two's body by the side
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Speaker 1: of the road. Yes, all this time, her boy, her
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Speaker 1: little boy, is upstairs asleep. He has no idea that
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Speaker 1: downstairs mommy is being murdered. Not a clue. Now you
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Speaker 1: may ask, where's Dad? I asked that very first question,
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Speaker 1: because when you find a mom dad, you immediately dad.
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Speaker 1: You immediately looked to the dad, the husband, the lover,
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Speaker 1: the x. He was out of town, and I verified
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Speaker 1: that myself with their older son who was looking at colleges.
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Speaker 1: This handyman had had an affair with or saw Ya Gail.
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Speaker 1: That happened, she broke it off. He wanted back, She
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Speaker 1: didn't want him back. She wanted to make her marriage work.
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Speaker 1: He murders her, stabbing her fifty times while her son's upstairs.
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Speaker 1: What kind of guilt trip will the sun be on
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Speaker 1: the rest of his life? Thinking I could have saved mommy?
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Speaker 1: What was wrong with me? And leaves her by the
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Speaker 1: side of the road like trash in a Duffel bag.
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Speaker 1: I think her son's hockey Duffel bag. Yeah. Now here
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Speaker 1: is another shocker in the last days. The handyman lover
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Speaker 1: forty four year old David Benolah takes a plea deal
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Speaker 1: to a lesser offense, manslaughter. He gets twenty five years
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Speaker 1: on manslorry. He'll probably do twelve fifteen and be out.
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Speaker 1: He'll be a young man. I mean, is he grace?
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and Serious M one eleven. I
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Speaker 1: can't believe this guy was given a plea deal to
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Speaker 1: twenty five years on a lesser offense. He should have
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Speaker 1: been tried on murder and been behind bars for the
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Speaker 1: rest of his natural life till he dies. He should
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Speaker 1: come out of jail and a box. The injustice of
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Speaker 1: this sentence take a listen to our friends ABC seven.
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Speaker 1: Banola pleaded guilty to first degree manslaughter in a plea
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Speaker 1: bargain with Queen's prosecutors, who dropped the murder charge. Under
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Speaker 1: the deal, he'll be sentenced to twenty five years in prison.
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Speaker 1: Former prosecutor David Schwartz says avoiding a trial makes sense.
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Speaker 1: If you win trial on a murder, he gets twenty
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Speaker 1: five to life, or we could lead the case out
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Speaker 1: to a manslaughter and it's twenty five years, but the
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Speaker 1: family could move on. And this happens all the time.
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Speaker 1: How did the whole thing start topping our headlines? At
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Speaker 1: this hour? We have breaking news. Police making arrest in
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Speaker 1: the gruesome murder of our Sallya Gall and Queens David Benola,
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Speaker 1: facing several charges, according to police, including murder and criminal tampering.
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Speaker 1: Gall was stabbed to death in her Forest Hills home
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Speaker 1: on Friday, multiple stab wounds. After an evening out. Her
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Speaker 1: body was found about half a mile away, stuffed inside
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Speaker 1: a Duffel bag. Stuffed in a Duffel bag. Now, who
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Speaker 1: in the world would have access to that home not
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Speaker 1: shipped the alarm, nowhere to find the son, her young
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Speaker 1: son's hockey bag, have access to her phone, know her code,
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Speaker 1: and take the time to stage the scene sending some
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Speaker 1: bizarre text to her husband, who was out of town
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Speaker 1: in Oregon on a college shopping trip with his older son.
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Speaker 1: Who would do that? Who would stage the scene? Well,
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Speaker 1: now we know straight out. The special guests joining us,
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Speaker 1: Stephanie Begonus is joining us from Fox Business Fox News
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Speaker 1: Digital reporter Stephanie, thank you for being with us. Who
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Speaker 1: is this guy? So David Benola. Police say he has
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Speaker 1: no unsealed criminal history. He is a forty four year
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Speaker 1: old man who lived in Queens, not far from where
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Speaker 1: the victim and her family lived. Police said he was
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Speaker 1: the family's handyman. He had been working with the families
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Speaker 1: for about two years. He also had been in an
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Speaker 1: intimate relationship with Orsolia Goal for about two years, but
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Speaker 1: the couple had broken. Stephanie, Yes, can I tell you something?
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Speaker 1: Thank you for not leading the murder case with the
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Speaker 1: fact that she had an affair everywhere I turned, that's
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Speaker 1: the headline. She's slept with a handyman. Who gives a
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Speaker 1: fig what she may or may not have done in
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Speaker 1: her life or why she did it. We know she'd
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Speaker 1: call the relationship off, and we understand from his double
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Speaker 1: confession one on video that he was trying to rekindle
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Speaker 1: the relationship and she refused. I don't want to hear
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Speaker 1: any victim shaming at all for everybody on the panel.
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Speaker 1: Just brace for that. No victim shaming. I mean, think
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Speaker 1: about it, doctor Angie Arnold, what if the worst thing?
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Speaker 1: Think about it, everybody, including you, Jackie, who can do
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Speaker 1: no wrong, Think of the worst thing you have ever done,
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Speaker 1: something you've never told a soul, And that's gonna be
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Speaker 1: on your tombstone. That's going to be the headline on
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Speaker 1: every the New York post to this. That's in the headline.
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Speaker 1: Your sons, your children are gonna know that, you know, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: I think I think that the reason these things are
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Speaker 1: brought up and people shout them from the rooftops when
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Speaker 1: something like this happens is because we're also scared, like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, who's on the loose? Why did this
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Speaker 1: happen to her? And then we have a simple people
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Speaker 1: people believe that we have a simple reason. Oh that's
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Speaker 1: why it happened to her. And if I don't, if
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Speaker 1: I don't behave that way, then that won't happen to me. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times women just getting judged
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Speaker 1: or everything they do. Yes, but that aside, You're right,
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Speaker 1: I think it gives us everybody else other than the victim,
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Speaker 1: a false sense of complacency and safety because we think, oh,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do filling the blank, go jogging at night,
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Speaker 1: I go to my car in a parking deck after midnight,
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Speaker 1: go out to a bar alone, have an affair with
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Speaker 1: the handyman. You know, you're filling the blank to make
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Speaker 1: yourself feel better like it won't happen to you. But
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Speaker 1: that is certainly no guarantee. So back to you, Stephanie
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Speaker 1: Pogonas with Fox, thank you for leading this as it
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Speaker 1: should be. A mother of two, a mother of two
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Speaker 1: slaughtered in her own home. Now, I was asking you
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Speaker 1: who this guy is, and did I hear you say, correctly,
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Speaker 1: Stephanie pigottus that he does not have an unsealed criminal records. Well,
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Speaker 1: so that's correct, meaning though that if he does have
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Speaker 1: a criminal history, it would be filed and in that
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Speaker 1: case police would not be able to discuss it or
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Speaker 1: even acknowledge its existence. Is he a Mexican national? So
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Speaker 1: we're still waiting here back from law enforcement officers regarding
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Speaker 1: his immigration status. But police do say he moved here
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Speaker 1: from Mexico twenty one years ago. We've also heard from
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Speaker 1: people in the neighborhood that he has two children. I
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Speaker 1: believe they're actually grown now, and he was married before this. Okay,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, we can't determine whether he's in this
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Speaker 1: country legally. I don't think it's that we can, It's
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Speaker 1: that no one has yet been willing to speak about it.
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Speaker 1: I believe every every time police have been questioned about this,
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Speaker 1: they say they can't answer the question. Our inquiry with
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Speaker 1: Ice is currently pending. How did this whole thing go down?
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Speaker 1: Stephanie So More details actually came out yesterday during a
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Speaker 1: police press conference in Queens. Police stay or Solia went
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Speaker 1: to a show at Lincoln Center in Manhattan and returned
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Speaker 1: to Queens around eleven twenty pm. She then went to
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Speaker 1: a restaurant. She returned home at twelve to twenty pm
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Speaker 1: and about ten to twenty minutes later, prosecutors said she
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Speaker 1: let mister Benola into her home. There had originally been
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Speaker 1: questions as to whether she let him in or if
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Speaker 1: he used a key that had been hidden in the barbecue.
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Speaker 1: Now the prosecutors say she let him in. They then
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Speaker 1: go down to the basement of the home. Her son
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Speaker 1: was upstairs. I want I hate to interrupt your incredible
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Speaker 1: stream of facts, but I want to point out something.
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Speaker 1: Think about it. She's got her son at home, her
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Speaker 1: young son, the young one, Leo, is starting to the
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Speaker 1: older one, Jamie, is seventeen, off on the college tour
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Speaker 1: with his dad. It's this really ritzy neighborhood, and they're
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Speaker 1: in Forest Hills. It's really pretty. I've driven through it
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Speaker 1: a couple of times. It looks like a storybook. When
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Speaker 1: you drive around in Forest Hills, it looks like it's
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Speaker 1: out of a magazine or a storybook setting. Think about it.
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Speaker 1: It's after midnight and you got this guy uninvited. She's
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Speaker 1: not gonna invite her former lover over at night with
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Speaker 1: her son home. I can promise you that I don't
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Speaker 1: know her, I've never met her, but I can tell
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Speaker 1: you that much. So he shows up, and what do
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Speaker 1: you think what should she do? Let him start screaming
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Speaker 1: and causing a ruckus, or just say, okay, kay, you
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Speaker 1: can come in ten minutes, we're going to talk. I
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Speaker 1: would have I don't know what I would have done,
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Speaker 1: but I understand why she let him in so he
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Speaker 1: wouldn't create a scene. But Monique, she drew the line.
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Speaker 1: He wanted to and I'm putting perfect around the big
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Speaker 1: right here. He wanted to rekindle their relationship, in other words,
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Speaker 1: have sex, right, That's what I think. That is what
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Speaker 1: I think. But he's a man. He wants to rekindle
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Speaker 1: their what their marriage, no, their sex affair, and she
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Speaker 1: said no, and he stabbed her dead. Right. What do
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Speaker 1: you think about that, Monque? It was a rejection. You know,
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Speaker 1: he couldn't kick the rejection. He was obsessed. He wasn't
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Speaker 1: going to leave, you know. With her telling me, she
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Speaker 1: said that obsessed to show up after midnight when a
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Speaker 1: mother is home with her child, alone in the home
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Speaker 1: and he comes over uninvited and tries to restart their
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Speaker 1: sex affair, I would call that obsessed. That's a very
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Speaker 1: good word. Monique. Well, I think I think he had
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Speaker 1: a pattern. He stalked and women breast at a nearby
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Speaker 1: Starbucks near his home. Also, he frequented the place several
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Speaker 1: times a week. He left messages in the tip jar
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Speaker 1: he proposed to a couple of the employees. I read
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Speaker 1: that they filed police reports. They wanted they wanted to
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Speaker 1: keep the guy away from Starbucks. Oh this poor woman.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, Forty four year old PERV
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Speaker 1: David Bonola has accepted a plea deal from the Queen's
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Speaker 1: District Attorney's office. They should all be fired where he
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Speaker 1: gets off with a light sentence and a lesser offense.
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Speaker 1: This could have been tried, and I believe there would
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Speaker 1: have been a conviction for murder. One yes, the defense
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Speaker 1: would have dragged the mother through the mud. My claiming
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Speaker 1: she was some kind of a tramp that slept with
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Speaker 1: a handyman. That's not true. She had an affair. Half
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Speaker 1: of America's had an affair, probably more. They don't get
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Speaker 1: the death penalty for it. Listen to the NYPD Chief
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Speaker 1: of Detectives, James sig Listen to what he's got to say.
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Speaker 1: On Friday night, April fifteenth, Miss Gal attends a show
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Speaker 1: at Lincoln Center. She takes the train back to her
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Speaker 1: neighborhood in Forest Hills at eleven twenty pm. She stops
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Speaker 1: in a local establishment for a short while before returning home.
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Speaker 1: We believe she returns home at twelve to twenty am.
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Speaker 1: You are hearing the Chief of Detectives, James Sig. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to what he says next on Friday night, Am.
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Speaker 1: Mister Bonella is a handyman who was employed by missus Gal.
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Speaker 1: They have been having an intimate a faft for approximately
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Speaker 1: two years. He is either let involuntarily or he uses
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Speaker 1: a key he has knowledge about hidden in the barbecue.
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Speaker 1: A heated argument ensues between the two. In the basement,
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Speaker 1: a knife is brandished. A violent struggle ensues, resulting at
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Speaker 1: all victim being stabbed ruthlessly and brutally an access of
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Speaker 1: fifty five times, causing her demise. The evidence in this
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Speaker 1: case is overwhelming and heart breaking. Two boys left to
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Speaker 1: be raised without their mother. The Chief of Detectives, Jameses
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Speaker 1: goes on to state that the Duffel bag was found
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Speaker 1: in the home by the killer and he dragged her
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Speaker 1: body at the Metropolitan Avenue at Jackie Robinson Parkway. Question
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Speaker 1: to you Stephanie Pegonis. It's my understanding that there's a
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Speaker 1: beautiful park forest near her home and he lived on
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Speaker 1: the other side of it. Correct, So was this going
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Speaker 1: toward his home where he just left the body? So
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Speaker 1: it does appear that way. Yes, it appears that he
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Speaker 1: would have walked these zero point seven miles from her
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Speaker 1: Juno Street home to that intersection Metropolitan Avenue and Jackie
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Speaker 1: Robinson Parkway that would have been directly on the way
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Speaker 1: to his own home if he had chosen to walk
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Speaker 1: that night. Didn't he live in Richmond Hills, That is correct? Okay,
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Speaker 1: So if he were walking home and I was hung
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Speaker 1: up for the longest time because the killer did not
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Speaker 1: dispose of her body in a vehicle, and I repeatedly said, well,
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Speaker 1: what did he do? Walk there? Yes, that's exactly what
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Speaker 1: he did to Doctor Tim Gallagher, medical examiner for the
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Speaker 1: entire state of Florida. You can find him at pathcaremed
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Speaker 1: dot com, lecturer, Versity of Florida Medical School, Founder and
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Speaker 1: host of the International Forensic Medicine Death Investigation Conference. All
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Speaker 1: they talk about is death investigations for days on and
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Speaker 1: it's like a brain trust of medical examiners and investigators.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Gallagher, thank you for being with us. I want
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Speaker 1: to talk to you about this frenzied attack. We're hearing fifty,
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Speaker 1: we're hearing fifty five. I think it's very difficult to tell.
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Speaker 1: I learned that from the jod Arias case, where she
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Speaker 1: stabbed her lover, Travis Alexander about thirty times and shot
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Speaker 1: him in the head. The stab wounds were overlapping each other,
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Speaker 1: and since human flesh obviously is movable and flexible, it's
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Speaker 1: hard to tell really how many stab wounds there are,
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Speaker 1: but we know of fifty five. What's curious to me
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Speaker 1: is when you see him wheeling her body down the street,
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Speaker 1: he looks perfectly called well, Drue Nancy. It's very difficult
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Speaker 1: to get the exact amount of stab wounds in a body,
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Speaker 1: but you know, once you go past a certain number,
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Speaker 1: you know that exact number becomes less and less relevant. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, we can see that she's been stabbed multiple times. Generally,
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Speaker 1: this is a person who has done it in a
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Speaker 1: fit of rage. This is a person who's done it,
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Speaker 1: who who's of altered mental status, who's not or we
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Speaker 1: say noncompass menus, who is not in their right mind, um, So,
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Speaker 1: these people generally have a tremendous amount of strength that
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Speaker 1: they exert all at once during the assault, to the
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Speaker 1: point where they actually slice themselves. They harm themselves with
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Speaker 1: the knife, but it doesn't slow them down. They continue
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Speaker 1: to stab. When you stab somebody with the knife, the
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Speaker 1: blood and the bodily fluids get on the handle of
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Speaker 1: the knife, and the person who's holding it loses grip
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Speaker 1: when they when they stab somebody, and that knife actually
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Speaker 1: slices their own hand, but it doesn't stop them. So
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Speaker 1: they are filled with rage, they feel no pain, and
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Speaker 1: they are expending all of these energies. And then after
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Speaker 1: the assault, their energy is expended, so they return to
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Speaker 1: a calm state. And then that's what you see in
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Speaker 1: his public persona as he's walking down the street. He
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Speaker 1: can't be excited. What was your last seconds? Sorry? Right?
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Speaker 1: He cannot be excited anymore. His adrenaline is spent, his
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Speaker 1: rage is spent. So all he has to do now
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Speaker 1: is all The only thing that he has energy to
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Speaker 1: do now is walk calmly. And that's what was observed
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Speaker 1: after the attack. So he's exhausted after the frenzy attack.
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Speaker 1: I've got to tell you something doctor. I've been around
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Speaker 1: on many schizophrenics that were charged with crimes, well, murders.
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Speaker 1: They were all charged with murders, the ones that I
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Speaker 1: dealt with, and it's very scary. Victims have told me
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Speaker 1: to be alone with them when they are in one
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Speaker 1: of these rages and other rage attacks. It's almost as
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Speaker 1: if the person they're not legally insane, but they've gone
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Speaker 1: wild and you can't reason with them, you can't stop them.
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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if that is what this beautiful mom
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Speaker 1: of two encountered when she refused to rekindle her relationship
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Speaker 1: with the handyman. For those of you just joining us,
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Speaker 1: the man, the monster that murdered a young mom of
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Speaker 1: two or saw you, Gil has just taken a sweetheart plea.
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Speaker 1: You know they should have put that on top of
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Speaker 1: the Christmas tree. That was such a gift. Sending him
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Speaker 1: to jail for twenty five years on a lesser offense,
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Speaker 1: he'll probably be out in about twelve. This is after
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Speaker 1: he's sliced his former lover to death, stuffed her in
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Speaker 1: a duffel bag, and dragged her out, only to throw
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Speaker 1: her off by the side of the road. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what do you have to do there to get a
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Speaker 1: full on life sentence. This woman so defenseless, just trying
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Speaker 1: to put her marriage and her family back together, and
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Speaker 1: this is what happens. The evidence in this case is
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Speaker 1: very disturbing, So you llegal eagles, I hope you have
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Speaker 1: a strong stomach. As we weighed through it, isn't it
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Speaker 1: true Stephanie Pogonis that this chiller cut himself very seriously.
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Speaker 1: He first went to city clinic like a doc in
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Speaker 1: the box. Sorry about that phrase, doctor Gallagher, you know,
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Speaker 1: the little med first, then they sent him onto Bellevue Hospital.
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Speaker 1: He needed to go to the hospital where he was
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Speaker 1: treated and released. That's correct. He police were able to
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Speaker 1: confirm that he went to a local area hospital to
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Speaker 1: have injuries to both his hands treated, and in later
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Speaker 1: surveillance footage that police later released, you can see him
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Speaker 1: walking down the street with at least one hand bandaged
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Speaker 1: up completely. So yes, he also incurred injuries amid all
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Speaker 1: of this. This is Matt you know, I think it's
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Speaker 1: clear that he didn't go there with the intent to kill.
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Speaker 1: The weapon that he used was was a kitchen knife.
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Speaker 1: They argued they went into the basement, probably involuntarily because
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Speaker 1: he had taken a knife from the kitchen and then
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Speaker 1: he goes into this rink, so he has some diminished
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Speaker 1: capacity in this case, mays, I was just waiting for
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Speaker 1: the BS to come out. And there it is right,
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Speaker 1: because rage does not insanity. Make well, I can just
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Speaker 1: gun you down when you get off of this program
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Speaker 1: and go oh, I was angry because he disagreed with me.
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Speaker 1: That's not a defense under the law. And let me
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Speaker 1: remind you, Matthew Mengina. Not that you need reminding. I
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Speaker 1: mean you're a veteran trial lawyer, former District Attorney Lawrence
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Speaker 1: County form, a parole board member, author of the executioner's toll.
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Speaker 1: It goes on and on, Matthew Mangina. Let's not mislead
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Speaker 1: the listeners to think that premeditation under the law requires
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Speaker 1: a long drawn out scheme, such as poisoning someone over
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Speaker 1: a period of weeks and months, or planning or lying
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Speaker 1: in wait. Premeditation, as a matter of fact, can be
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Speaker 1: formed in the blink of an eye. The time it
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Speaker 1: takes to pick up a knife, pull it back and
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Speaker 1: stab that is long enough under the law to form
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Speaker 1: premeditation or intent. So here he stabbed or fifty five times,
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Speaker 1: he had plenty of time to form premeditation. There's a
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Speaker 1: good question. You're right. I mean, he used a weapon
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Speaker 1: on a vital part of her body, which is all
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Speaker 1: you need to prove first degree murder. But we're not
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Speaker 1: talking about insanity where he doesn't know the difference between
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Speaker 1: right and wrong, which could be a defense. But we're
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Speaker 1: talking about the mini's capacity. Is his responsibility because he's
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Speaker 1: po She want to have sex with him, with her
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Speaker 1: son and right above them. That ain't gonna work, me, Gie, Now,
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Speaker 1: you got to try better than that. He shows up
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Speaker 1: after midnight. He wants to have sex with her, rekindle
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Speaker 1: their relationship, if you could call that. She's married with children,
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Speaker 1: he's got children. What else is it? She says no,
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Speaker 1: and he starts stabbing her. Wouldn't you agree, doctor Gallagher,
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Speaker 1: that there's a very strong possibility many of these stab
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Speaker 1: wounds are post mortem. She couldn't have lived through fifty
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Speaker 1: five stab wounds. She was dead and he kept stabbing her.
23:53
Speaker 1: That's true, Nancy. And a couple of things that we
23:55
Speaker 1: do see is not all the stab wounds on some
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Speaker 1: of these victims go entirely through their body. These are
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Speaker 1: wounds that are taunting. Sometimes the killer will taunted the
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Speaker 1: victim with a couple of superficial stabs, and then the
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Speaker 1: stabs will get deeper and deeper and deeper, you know,
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Speaker 1: until the injury becomes fatal. Doctor Gallagher, can you rephrase something?
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure Matthew Mangina heard this, and
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Speaker 1: then I'll ask doctor Auntie arl about it. I believe,
24:22
Speaker 1: of course you're or the MD. I'm just a JD.
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Speaker 1: There's no way she could survive fifty five stab wounds
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Speaker 1: all to her torso, her face, her chest, So some
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Speaker 1: of the stabbings were after she's dead, after she's down
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Speaker 1: on the ground, right, I mean that would most likely
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Speaker 1: be the case. It's going to take a very long
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Speaker 1: time to complete fifty five stab wounds, and in that
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Speaker 1: period of time, they would most likely have died from
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Speaker 1: the wounds that were done earlier. So I would believe, yes,
24:55
Speaker 1: that a lot of the stab wounds could have been
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Speaker 1: after she had died, and a medical e I'm doing
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Speaker 1: a complete autopsy would would be able to identify which
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Speaker 1: ones which stab wounds she received when she was alive
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Speaker 1: and which stab wounds she received after she had expired.
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Speaker 1: Because the stab wounds post mortem after death would not
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Speaker 1: have bled. There would not be any hemorrhoginy around them.
25:17
Speaker 1: That is correct, right. The heart would stop beating, there
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Speaker 1: would be no blood pressure to push the blood through
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Speaker 1: the wound, so there would be no bleeding from that wound. Okay, Matthew,
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Speaker 1: me and Gina. You're talking about how he was in
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Speaker 1: a rage and the minist capacity. He's got her down
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Speaker 1: on the ground after she refuses sex with him still
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Speaker 1: stabbing this mom of two with one of her boys
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Speaker 1: one floor up. Now, what were you saying? What could
25:45
Speaker 1: your possible defense be? Again? You know, I think that
25:50
Speaker 1: further emphasizes the rage that he's out of his mind,
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Speaker 1: the evil, Yeah, that he has this dim his capacity,
26:01
Speaker 1: this altered state of mind. He's just in a rage.
26:03
Speaker 1: He doesn't really know what he's doing. He's just acting
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Speaker 1: out in this rage. And I think acting out. Gee,
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Speaker 1: I think of the Kidnergartener When you say acting out,
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Speaker 1: maybe throwing themselves on the ground and kicking and screaming.
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Speaker 1: I think it was John David did that one time.
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Speaker 1: I just looked at him and walked off. It worked.
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Speaker 1: This is far from acting out. This is an evil brutal,
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Speaker 1: vicious homicide of a defenseless, unarmed woman, and now with
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Speaker 1: her son to grow up knowing I was home and
26:39
Speaker 1: I didn't save my mother. It's my fault. What about
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Speaker 1: that doctor, Angie, That poor child. I mean, he's going
26:47
Speaker 1: to have to be in therapy for the rest of
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Speaker 1: his life. I can't even you know. I'm sure everybody's asking,
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Speaker 1: how didn't you hear this? Well, my kids have earbuds
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Speaker 1: in all the time. I don't know about your kids.
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Speaker 1: I could be standing in the kitchen talking to them
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Speaker 1: and they don't hear me. Well, you're right, I was.
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Speaker 1: I was questioning what happened that the sun didn't hear anything.
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Speaker 1: He's up on the second floor. She's in the basement
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Speaker 1: and he and he's blaring some music, playing a video
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Speaker 1: or asleep. Oh, I just had another idea. Hold on,
27:15
Speaker 1: I'm coming right back to you. Stephanie Peguans joining us
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Speaker 1: from Fox. Matthew Mangino not in his right mind. He
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Speaker 1: had picked up her cell phone, put in her code
27:26
Speaker 1: or held it up to her face evil to get in,
27:30
Speaker 1: and sent her husband a threatening text and made up
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Speaker 1: some crazy story. Your wife put me in jail some
27:40
Speaker 1: years ago, and now I'm back. Don't call police. Your
27:45
Speaker 1: whole family's next. He's crazy like a fox. This guy's
27:50
Speaker 1: not crazy or diminished capacity. He thought about staging the scene,
27:56
Speaker 1: and he did stage the scene, including that threat in
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Speaker 1: text to the dad. Yeah, I think the word you
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Speaker 1: use is crazy, and I think that feeds into this
28:08
Speaker 1: whole situation. I mean, that's not that's not the normal
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Speaker 1: conduct of a person who's in a in a m
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Speaker 1: in the right frame of mind. That he's in a
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Speaker 1: complete panic now, which you know is a result of
28:24
Speaker 1: this rage that he just inflicted on the Yeah, he's
28:30
Speaker 1: in a panic because he's trying to cover up a
28:32
Speaker 1: murder that he just did, a horribly bloody murder. I mean,
28:35
Speaker 1: Stephanie pagonis joining us from Fox. The police found damning
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Speaker 1: evidence at the scene, including a pair of his boots
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Speaker 1: soaked in blood. That's correct. Not only did they find
28:47
Speaker 1: these boots that were soaked in blood, like you said,
28:50
Speaker 1: but they also found a jacket that was soaked in blood.
28:54
Speaker 1: They found tissues i believe at a nearby park, and
29:00
Speaker 1: and they found a trail of blood leaving leading from
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Speaker 1: the home to the scene where the body was discovered.
29:08
Speaker 1: In duffle bag more or less ditched along the sidewalk there,
29:12
Speaker 1: so he has quite a bit of evidence that he
29:14
Speaker 1: has left behind, whether knowingly or unknowingly. He left the
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Speaker 1: nice as you discussed at the crime scene that matches
29:21
Speaker 1: the other knives used in the home there, and he
29:25
Speaker 1: ultimately confessed to many of these crimes, including leaving this
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Speaker 1: text message that ended up being completely bogused. Crime stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace and Injustice in a Queen's courtroom, the
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Speaker 1: killer a beautiful mom or saw you Gale takes a
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Speaker 1: sweet plea deal, sweet for him, bitter for me, that's right.
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Speaker 1: David Benola, forty four years old, takes a plea deal
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Speaker 1: offered by the Queen's District Attorney's office, pleading guilty to
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Speaker 1: a lesser offensive manslaughter, not murder. He will get twenty
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Speaker 1: five years behind bars and on that guarantee you he'll
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Speaker 1: be out in twelve thirteen years, like nothing happened. Probably
30:22
Speaker 1: time for him to work out in the yard, makes
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Speaker 1: some friends, get his degree, probably get some sweethearts online,
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Speaker 1: have women send him money. He'll probably draw artwork and
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Speaker 1: sell it online like Jodiarius does. He attacked or sawya
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Speaker 1: in her basement with her son upstairs, stabbing her fifty times,
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Speaker 1: waiting until the dead of night to drag her body
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Speaker 1: out of the home, and dumping next to a freeway.
30:52
Speaker 1: I mean, man, I would have tried him up and
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Speaker 1: down that courtroom trying to get the maximum sentence for
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Speaker 1: this guy. Take a listen to her friends at NBC.
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Speaker 1: The handyman accused of killing a queen's mother has accepted
31:08
Speaker 1: a plea deal in that case. David Benola will serve
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Speaker 1: twenty five years in jail on first degree manslaughter charges,
31:14
Speaker 1: with five years of post release supervision. Police say Benola
31:18
Speaker 1: confessed to stabbing or solagu more than fifty five times
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Speaker 1: after an argument back in April, then dumping her body
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Speaker 1: in a duffel bag not far from her home and
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Speaker 1: Forest Hills. This sentence and this sweetheart plea deal is
31:31
Speaker 1: so wrong. Earlier, Matthew Mangino, Venoman trial lawyer, stated that
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Speaker 1: this guy, David Benola had to get the knife out
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Speaker 1: of the kitchen and then take it down to the basement,
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Speaker 1: walking down with a knife in his hand that he
31:54
Speaker 1: used to murder or saw you think about that a moment,
32:01
Speaker 1: Think about that mona quet, those steps if I was
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Speaker 1: prosecuting this case, I would go down every step for
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Speaker 1: the jury with him holding the knife, every step leading
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Speaker 1: him closer to murder, a vicious and brutal murder of
32:22
Speaker 1: a defenseless, unarmed woman. That was time to ponder and
32:28
Speaker 1: think about what he was about to do. Mona, right,
32:32
Speaker 1: And we don't know how many times he had approached
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Speaker 1: her before this night, if he had been calling her,
32:39
Speaker 1: following her, if he had tried to, you know, have
32:43
Speaker 1: sex with her, you know, before this night, he maybe
32:48
Speaker 1: knew that there was a possibility he was going to
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Speaker 1: be rejected, but he was going to try. He was
32:53
Speaker 1: going to keep trying. You know what I learned researching
32:56
Speaker 1: the case, Stephanie Paganis, is that he has an session
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Speaker 1: with the Guns and Roses guitarist Slash Yes. And he
33:09
Speaker 1: also looks, you know, quite similar, interestingly, A mean, the hair, yeah,
33:16
Speaker 1: he's got He's got quite a distinct appearance. You know.
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Speaker 1: Even neighbors in the area said they knew him as
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Speaker 1: being not only a night owl, but someone who always
33:25
Speaker 1: was either playing music, talking about music, or was carrying
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Speaker 1: around his guitar, whether it was around his back or
33:33
Speaker 1: in an instrument bag of some kind. So not only
33:37
Speaker 1: does the appearance seem quite similar, but he really had
33:43
Speaker 1: quite the interest in music, according to neighbors who and
33:46
Speaker 1: people who lived or worked nearby. You know what's another
33:50
Speaker 1: interesting fact to me about how the knife was recovered
33:53
Speaker 1: at the crime scene. But the fact that does everybody
33:58
Speaker 1: remember how could you ever forget Sky Peterson? Remember him
34:01
Speaker 1: when he would go back over and over and over
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Speaker 1: back to San Francisco Bay, looking out over the water
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Speaker 1: as if he expected to see Lacy's body or the
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Speaker 1: body of their unborn son Connor, pop up in the water.
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Speaker 1: Maybe he was scouring the beach at a distance to
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Speaker 1: see if their bodies had washed up on shore. But
34:26
Speaker 1: wouldn't you agree, doctor Angela Arnold, that very often we
34:30
Speaker 1: see criminals returning to the scene over and over. I
34:34
Speaker 1: don't understand why. Well I don't really understand why either, Nancy.
34:39
Speaker 1: But there has to be a curiosity inside of them,
34:43
Speaker 1: and maybe they're perhaps they're reliving the event. Perhaps they're
34:47
Speaker 1: looking for signs of evidence that hasn't been found. And
34:51
Speaker 1: I truly agree with you about Scott Peterson probably going
34:55
Speaker 1: out there and seeing if Lacy's body was going to
34:57
Speaker 1: float up and they and you know, Nancy, maybe it
35:01
Speaker 1: also gives them some sort of some sort of sense
35:04
Speaker 1: of something having known that they've gotten rid of that person,
35:09
Speaker 1: and so they revisit it and relive it. You know
35:12
Speaker 1: what I'm wondering, Nancy, I'm wondering if this man had
35:16
Speaker 1: been you know, she had been trying to get rid
35:18
Speaker 1: of him, right, and she had cut things off, and
35:20
Speaker 1: then I'm wondering if someone else had rejected him also, Well,
35:24
Speaker 1: he heard earlier that he had been hitting on the
35:27
Speaker 1: baristas the Starbucks, and it went to take a listen
35:31
Speaker 1: twenty again. This is the Chief of Detectives, James Essig.
35:35
Speaker 1: Last night why detectives were canvassing for video they observed
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Speaker 1: the Mail who was wanted for questioning and a horrendous homicide.
35:44
Speaker 1: He voluntarily came back to the one twelve precinct and
35:48
Speaker 1: made incriminating statements. Today that Mail, David Bolla Mail, forty
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Speaker 1: four years old, residing at one O four eighteen one
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Speaker 1: teen Street in Queens, New York, is being charged with
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Speaker 1: murder in the second degree, criminal tampering in the first degree,
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Speaker 1: and criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree
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Speaker 1: in relation to the death of Ossolda gau female fifty
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Speaker 1: one years old. You know you, Stephanie Began. Is very
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Speaker 1: often when you're dealing with New York and some of
36:22
Speaker 1: the jurisdictions law, it said, well, why not murder in
36:25
Speaker 1: the first degree, murder in the second in New York.
36:30
Speaker 1: It's very similar to other jurisdictions. Murder in the first
36:33
Speaker 1: first degree murder in New York. Murder one can refer
36:38
Speaker 1: to murdering, for instance, a cop, a peace officer, a
36:45
Speaker 1: government worker. It could be someone that is incarcerated already
36:49
Speaker 1: and then they murder the warden. So it really focuses
36:53
Speaker 1: a good bit murder one in New York on who
36:56
Speaker 1: the victim is. But the penalty for murder one and
37:01
Speaker 1: murder two in New York is the same about twenty
37:04
Speaker 1: five to life, right, that's correct. He faces twenty five
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Speaker 1: to life. It's convicted on the highest charge, But on
37:10
Speaker 1: top of that he has those two other charges criminal
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Speaker 1: possession of a weapon and tampering with physical evidence, so
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Speaker 1: he likely faces more time than that if convicted on
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Speaker 1: those other charges on top of the murder in the
37:24
Speaker 1: second degree. Interesting, I know what tampering with evidence would
37:28
Speaker 1: be moving the body, getting rid of evidence trying to
37:32
Speaker 1: hide the murder weapon. But what about criminal possession of
37:36
Speaker 1: a weapon. Does that mean he had a weapon that
37:40
Speaker 1: he used for a crime or is there some reason
37:42
Speaker 1: it was a crime for him to even have a weapon.
37:45
Speaker 1: So it's my understanding in my years of doing this,
37:48
Speaker 1: that the criminal possession of a weapon charge refers to
37:52
Speaker 1: his use of the knife as a weapon to commit
37:56
Speaker 1: a crime in this case. So, like you said, he
37:59
Speaker 1: went into the kitchen. Police believe he used the knife
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Speaker 1: from the kitchen, and he used that knife in the
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Speaker 1: commission of this murder of Ursaya Gaul. In the last days,
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Speaker 1: the handyman lover, forty four year old David Benola takes
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Speaker 1: a plea deal to a lesser offense, manslaughter. He gets
38:23
Speaker 1: twenty five years on manslory. He'll probably do twelve fifteen
38:26
Speaker 1: and be out. I can't believe this guy was given
38:31
Speaker 1: a plea deal to twenty five years on a lesser offense.
38:35
Speaker 1: He should have been tried on murder and been behind
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Speaker 1: bars for the rest of his natural life till he dies.
38:44
Speaker 1: The injustice of this sentence, Oh what that family had
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Speaker 1: to go through. Our prayers with or Sawya Gals family,
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Speaker 1: her husband especially her two sons. Nancy Grayce Crime Story
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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,