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#671 - Maka on Linking With OhGeesy, OTX Boyz, Polynesian Culture, Pacioma, Musical Journey & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Blue Black Cap Podcast. Man, we got a special guest
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: in here. Pacoimas in the building. Maka's in the building.
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: What's good, broing? Really, thank you for having me, you
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Uh So, first of all, Man, you are the second
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: artist we've ever had from Pacorma on the show.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, shout out picks.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen that the eight is in the building. Yeah,
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: I guess, I guess if you consider. I mean, Whack
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: one hundred is not a rapper, but he's been on
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: the show before. But welcome to the show. Man. You've
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: been you've been moving to shake and run around the country.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: How long you been doing this music ship?
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: Uh for a minute. I think I started like what
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, but like more and so
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: it's just like as a hobby, right, I didn't really
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: take it serious until like this past what six months.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: So like you barely just started taking it serious.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: It's because like it, yes and no, like it'd be
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: like my my my roller coaster of you know, like life,
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: right man.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, motherfuckers gotta
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: pay bills, pay bills.
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: I got a daughter, right, you know what? I mean,
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: so it's like I was putting a lot of priorities.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: I would say, you know, but above the dream, you
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it came down to it
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: like I was sitting down with a couple of homies,
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: and oddly enough, Bravo, the bag chaser, was like, you
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: just gotta put two feet in it. Yeah, great guy,
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: And so I did, and now we're here. Yeah on
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: the Bootlegs show.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Bravo. Yeah, you know. I try to
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: give Bravo advice.
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: He never listens, you.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: Know, even though he's like he's Jack and he's like healthier.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: I just was like, you gotta stop sucking on these
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: fucking balloons. Dog in the studio. Every time Bravo comes
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: to the fucking studio, there's a giant tank and it's
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: like twelve bitches all got. It's like a fucking birthday party.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: Not the sessions that we be having.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: No, I don't know that.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: But was my brother.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: Man, great guy, Man, great guy. He's like just his
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: growth too.
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: It's been dope to see all independent too, Like gosh,
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: it's he's not what crazy, He's a blueprint that a
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: lot of artist should try to follow.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: His tour he just did was super successful too.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: And he dropped the He went on tour before he
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: dropped the album, which is insane.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: A man that's that demand.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: I thought that was the crazy shit ever because he
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: dropped on his birthday, but his tour happened like probably
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: like a couple of months before, you know, so I
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: thought that sh was dope.
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: Would you say like that that kind of generation of
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: la hip hop, the Bravos, the Shorelines to Draco's like
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: a big influence on you.
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: Yeahred percent, you know what I mean. I mean, Bravo
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: and himself like just being independent. That should be like
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: every artist's dreams because he's eating everything he's putting out right,
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't have to split the pot with
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: nobody else but himself, you know what I mean. But uh,
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: Draco and like Charline's influence on artists and the people
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: itself is like definitely like generational, you know what I mean.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: But you're also very like melodic with your ship. Is
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: that something like that? You always kind of just had
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: that pocket?
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up singing, like I mean, I still sing,
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, grew up in like a singing household.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: My mom loves to sing. You know. She's like to
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: this day, her and my dad are still in the
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: choir for the church. Oh shit, you know what I mean.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: So I grew up like my my background and it
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: was really like soul full gospel, you know what I mean.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: So I think that's where like it stems from. And
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: then just attaching that to like not being ugly kind
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  Speaker 2: of works for me, you know.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: So that's a great line. Ye Like, look, I know
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not a bad looking guy. Yeah you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: That way, it doesn't you don't seem too cocky, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so I've I've always I've always been able
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: to sing. I've always like sang. You know.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like you either like like if you can sing,
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: it's either your it's like you got to be like
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: a really good looking dude, or you got to be
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: kind of like road wave. People would be like, Yo,
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: this big dude sounds like.
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: Crazy because even who's that one artist? I don't know
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: if I'm saying it right, but cocky Cocky k or
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: Khaki ka no idea. Uh he's the one with the
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: Friday and Meek Mill that song.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I don't big dude, but can
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: sing his ass of the Proud to Me record. Yes,
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know anybody else was on that song.
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: Well no, it's the no no, no, what song is that?
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: You know what song that is?
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: Cyrus died Choke Me? Please?
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What what's your song name? Anyways? But yeah it
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: you can either go that. You can either really really
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: sing Chris Brown level or you know sorre.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: You grew up in Pacoima, Yeah, I grew up.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: My childhood is in Pacoima. And then from there, uh,
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: my parents, my parents, uh they move like Mission Hills, you.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: Know, and then shout out to Mission Hills.
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: Man, small city.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: Mission Hills is like one of those places where when
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: you move to La you start like trying to like
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: damn all the houses are so expensive, and then you
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: get out to like Mission Hills. Oh you get a
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: little crib over here.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you know what I mean, Like the.
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: Deeper in the valley you get. Man, You're like, I
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: guess I'll drive. I could drive forty five minutes.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: It's not that bad.
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: It's not there, you know what, And then before you
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: know it, you're hitting Santa Clarita on Zillo and you're like.
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Santa Creta is Yeah, Santa Claris is not bad.
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: Though it's not bad.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: I like it out there, you know, it's definitely like
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: like I thought, I think the valley is out the
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  Speaker 2: way spot, but Santa Clarita can't country. All that is
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: really out the out.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: Super out the way, you know what it is because
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: if an accident happens, it's it's only one way in
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: and out.
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're stuck. You're stuck, you know. But oh yeah,
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: my my, I grew up. My childhood house is right
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: there in Pacuoma.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: So did you do any sports in the growing up?
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: What were you doing? Like, like, were you a good student?
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: Man? I was that delusional kid thinking he was gonna
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: make it in the NFL.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, dude, your tonguing Yeah, so, like I mean, fuck,
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: there's so many tongue ins in the NFL.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: Not for so, I mean now. And then it got
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: to like a couple of years to where like we
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: finally started getting a little bit more wrecked on, like
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: the culture and stuff like that. Even in music, I
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: would say, because artists like Jay bug man.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: I love I love that do it again. So it
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: was in Hawaii for like a week and I just
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: put j Buog Radio on.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you J bug Is. I think he's
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: sman or he might be have, but he's incredible, even
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: to where like Fiji, who is our people's Bob Marley. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for sure, you know what I mean. So I feel
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: like we just started getting a lot more recognition in
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: that space where it's like music, uh to like the
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: sports side, Like I'm glad we're finally getting reognition because
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know what Tongans are Samoans
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: for sure, you know what I mean.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like most people group all of y'all in.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: But now, and this is my biggest pet peeve and
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: there's nothing against him, but now my biggest pet peeve
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: is when they group us with Asians, right, you know
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: what I mean? So that's like it does you know,
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: so like they even gave like our month is grouped together.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: Technically you guys are Pacific Islanders, right, No, not technically
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: we are, Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: Technically yeah. Yeah. But then then there's like then between
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: because there's the Filipinos, who depending on which Filipino you ask, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they all say that they are also Pacific Islanders and
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: then others will say they're Asians. Yes, they're in between ers.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: They are the in between her, and I think that's
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: where like the the the cloudiness gets, you know, and
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: like I said, there's nothing against them, I don't got
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: to no, you know, but it's like we're already so small,
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: like I'd rather want something for ourselves. You know.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: So you were playing high school football.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to Alamani, went to Alamani.
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: What was your position?
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: I played linebacker, but it was kind of like a
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: it was a rover position, so it's technically safety, but
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: they brought me down to the box a lot.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: You were like a fucking Troy palm Alo type.
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: Bruh, yeah, kind of yeah, Buddha Baker one of my
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: favorite players. But yeah, you know, so that's what I
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: was doing, not really doing much. You feel me like
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: it was it was school practice, sleep, repeat, fire, you
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: So that's dope, man. Yeah, I mean I feel like
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like football is like the most obtainable because
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: there's so many roster spots, so it's like, you know,
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: if you are I feel like it's one of those
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: sports that like you don't even have to be necessarily
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: the most gifted. If you just really grind and like,
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: it's enough sometimes to get on like a practice squad
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: or to get on special teams.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: For sure, you know what I mean. And like I
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: would say, like even with like the homies, the only
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: place you don't really know I'm tonguing is in the
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: weight room. That's the only place, like outside people either
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: think I'm black Filipino.
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: Why did they think that? In the weight rooms because
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: you're strong?
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, there was like a running joke, Kaylan. I
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: don't know if it was Kailin or my boy Tie,
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: there was a running joke that I was on steroids,
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: So you're not on any pep tides.
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: Nah, No, I'm scared of needles. I don't even take
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: pre workout, no stretching, no nothing. As soon as we
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: walk in straight to the bench.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pre workout is. Uh, it's interesting. Yeah that should
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: have had me scratching my face like a tweaker.
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: Do that fucking pre workout is but it works. So
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: you know, so do you work? Are you pretty? You're
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: pretty like locked in at the gym.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: Still No, not right now? Being on the run with jeez,
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: it's been like so and you try, you try to
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: stay disciplined on the road, but it's.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: Hard, especially like on the food ship. I feel like,
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: no matter how hard you try, it's like if you
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: haven't ate all day and it's one am and you're
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: in a random city, it's like your options are hell limited.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: And then you open that door dash app and it's
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: like order again McDonald's, and it's just like, you know, it's.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: Like your damn near need to like bring your own food.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: Nah. So it's like I I tried to stay on
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: top of it, but right now I'm not. I'm so
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: I'm so off off of it. But I'll get back.
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  Speaker 1: do you end up? Because for people who don't know, Uh,
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: you're rolling with OTX boys, Gezus, I mean he's he
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: told me, I mean you're the first artist he's kind
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: of bringing.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: In officially on the OTX side, on the OTX boy side. Yeah, definitely.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: What what What was it? Uh like that I guess
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: kind of sparked that relationship in that conversation.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: Uh. Well, crazy enough the song itself, Jesus never supposed
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: to be on it. Okay, I never asked him to
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: be on it. I didn't even have an open verse
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: on that song. We drove up to the Bay. When
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: we drove to the Bay, he had got booked at
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: a club and we were in the parking lot of
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: the hotel and I was like, hey, bro, I got
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: to shoot content real quick because IM about slide in
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: the morning. And he was like, all right, just pull
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: up right here. So he opens his car door. He
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: played through the through his car speakers, and I was like,
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: this got open verse to it. I was like, shit, no,
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: I make one. So I called my boy DTV. DTV
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: opened up a verse, sent it to me like within
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: probably fifteen minutes. I sent it the bro nothing crickets.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: He didn't didn't like the message, didn't tell me it
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: was gonna get on it. They ended up I ended
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: up coming back home, but they stayed out there in
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: the bay because I guess he got booked two days
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: for sure, you know. So he ended up saying out there,
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: I'm back in LA. They end up coming back and
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: I'm calling Hi'm like, yeoh, what's the deal? Was good? Nothing,
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: And then it was like two am, two am. I
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: got to misface time call for him. I guess he
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: was in the studio and then uh, I missed that call.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: I was sleep but I woke up to the record
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: and that's how I done just being done crazy, you know.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: So uh from there, that's when he was like sending
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: me a schedule telling me when I could drop, because
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: obviously he was keeping me informed with like so we.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Had you already figured out that you guys were gonna
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: work together prior to you him hit getting on the record.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: It was that record kind of the genesis of like, yo,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: let me put it out through a TX, like let's
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: do this together type shit.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I would say that was because I
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: was always around, but because I was my homie. We
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: go to church together, Okay, you know. So that's how
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: like the relationship formed initially, is it. Uh, We're just
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: good people, you know what I mean. He's a good dude,
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: so we just it was easy to mesh, you know.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: And then we started going to church together and just
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: started kicking it, you know what I mean. So like
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: for me to pull up to the bay that was
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: nothing he called me. I was like, Yo, I'm going
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: to the bay if you want to slide. So I
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: would say that record is what really set it off,
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: and then even just follow it up after that because
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: he saw how hard I was working the record as
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: well as like shooting content for like staying on top
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: of like the business aspect of it of like you know,
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: making sure that aligns with his schedule, you know, because
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: I knew how big of an opportunity it was for
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: me to get out. So you know, even at that,
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: like he doesn't have to do a lot of stuff,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: he does for me, right, you know what I mean.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: It's like effortless the love that he shows to not
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: only me, but to the record in itself. Like this
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: tour that we just went on, I missed the first
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: two days. I think it was like Albuquerque and Albuquerque's
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: what Texas? No, not New Mexico, it was Albuquerque. And
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: then there was a spot in Texas that I missed.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: He's sending me videos of him performing a song and
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not even there. That's fire, you know what I mean.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: So it's like he doesn't have to do a lot
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: of that stuff. But he liked the record, he liked
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: how it sounded, he liked the message of the records.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: So I felt like it was really easy. And then
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: from there that's when he was like, all right.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: That's crazy man, shout out to the church man.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Bringing folks together literally. So I don't know. I think
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: that there is where it grew like that genuine relationship too,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: because like at the end of the day, we don't
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: really got to we don't got to go to church together,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: right hang out?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I think too, it's like dope
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: to see. I think Jez's been doing a really good
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: job of like being like a young turned artist, but
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: also showing kids like you could do all this and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: be sober and not be like a jackass I'm saying,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: and be about your business and move like a professional.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Like and that's something I respect too, because I don't.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: I don't drink or smoke. So he just hit one
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: year of sobriety like two days ago or something. Yeah,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: you know, so.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Were you always like have you always been sober? Did
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: you ever like go through like being a pothead or Nah?
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: No, I don't have no like crazy story. I don't
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: got no reason to just not. That's dope, you know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: like I just never really had the curiosity for it.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Would your parents kill you?
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Uh? Nah? Both my both my brothers smoke and drink.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you know how much? How many of your
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: family members or security guards in La.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: A lot a lot? We went to look when I
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: when I tell you we went to we went to Kailin.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: He's a birthday party. I'm telling you that. As soon
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: as I get there, I know the security guard he
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: cut the line. We get there, it's like everybody, every
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: single security guard in that motherfucker was damn near my family.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: They all come to say what's up. So sometimes sometimes
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: it works for me because if the security guards are
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: leaving their post to come say up to me, like
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: everybody else is looking like who is he? You know?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: And I don't look like a traditional tonging. So instinctively,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: they're not thinking like, oh, that's probably just their cousin
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: or something, you know what I mean. So, uh, yeah,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: it was funny. We just went through that conversation the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: other day at their birthday party. But a lot from
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: like strip clubs, to clubs to just even my cousin
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: just posted he was a a neon security guard at EEDC.
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• 17:43
  Speaker 1: like rivalry between tongue and samoa?
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: It used to be bad.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's before my generation though, but it used to
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: be like like you're like, I was like, you don't
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: miss miss you know, no, we still don't like it, right,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: you know, we still don't like being miss Like you're smoing,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: but I'm tongue, you know. But it goes for like
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: anything like the Mexicans and souths, Like if you call
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: it a Mexican Salvadorian, they're just gonna correct you. So
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: that's all it is, just a correction. But as far
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: as like ongoing like beef or something like that, Like
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: it hasn't been like that way in years, you know
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: what I mean. So it used to be like way
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: worse as I was growing up, But like I said,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that was the generation before me, you know, so.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like too, you know, it's got to be
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: dope to know, like if you get some motion, like
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you have a whole island that's gonna fuck with you.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they either do or they don't, right, you
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. They either do it they don't
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: cause they're definitely a hard crowd to win over, just
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: because we're so small and we only know what we know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, like, aside from like
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the reggae, someone that is super big in our culture
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: is a He's a rapper named young O from Inglewood.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Oh dope, you know what I mean. So it's like
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: he's like there was a kid.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: That I'm not sure if he was telling or someone
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: that used to work with Roddy Craig.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: That's my boy, Craig, yep, Coreg. Yeah, that's my boy.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: He's Simon. He's sing me. Yeah, but that's my boy though,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Super dope, overly locked in.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: But I was Roddy's he was signed with the bird
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Vision bird Vision. That was Roddy's only opener when he
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: dropped Anti Social Yeah yeah, fact crazy.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was a legendary tour and then COVID.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Just wiped it all up.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: But at least we had that first tour, that one
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: tour I got to go to that. It was special. Yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it was a movie.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Now he's doing his thing, you feel me, So shout
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: out Craig my boy Mac, who I met through Craig
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: is a Mario the Scientist sound engineer, you know what
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I mean. So it's a lot of big things coming
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: out of that camp.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Uh. There's some big tongue in wrestlers. Do you know them?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny enough. They just tapped in. I'm not
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I used to be really big on wrestling growing up.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, it's like my thing.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm uh. I think Jay Fau just tapped in
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: with me on Instagram. Yep, dude, So brothers, there's.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Like like Tangaloa. There's there's three tongue in bruhs. One
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of them just got released. But there's like the Tall
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Full but yeah, the MFTs. I think two out of
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the three MFTs are from tongue. Yeah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I was trying to follow the
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: storyline because IVE seen them pop up on TikTok.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: But I mean, man, what you're in, you're in? Man,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: yeah exactly. Then you go to wrestle Mania every year
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to Summer Slam in August.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: That's dope.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: See, like I grew up with that, you know. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: grew up with like the Shawn Michaels course, Shohn Seen
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, Like that was my and then
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: as soon as they also I see them still wrestling,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: But it's not like the same.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Are you working on the project right now?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: No? Yes, and the singles you can do the single
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: thing singles.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I want there to be like more of a demand
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: for a project than putting out a body of work
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that I'm proud of. That kind of like falls on
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: deaf ears, you know what I mean.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because it's like I always tell people, until
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you know the demand is there for album, and you'll
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: know when it's there. Yeah, Like dropping a whole body
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of work is like a single shot into the algorithm.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Because you got to you gotta take to account. Right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Drake just dropped three albums and Drake is one of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the biggest artists of our generation. I'm still skimming through
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: his album.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No one, Like everyone's only talking about Iceman exactly.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Like it's crazy because the Habibi joints fire. I that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: shit's hard, but no one's talking about that ship and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this shit is like some of the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: best R and B. Drake we've ever gotten. Facts here,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the Maine Honor shit is not for me.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I haven't even got there yet. But that's my point though,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you know. So it's like getting them to attach and
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: gravitate to one song to three minutes and let alone
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: is hard. So once you drop ten songs or whatever.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like, if you got ten records that you
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: feel strong about, that's ten different opportunities to shoot shots
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: into the algorithm, ten different different individual releases until like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: but you'll know, like when it's like I need to
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: drop a prober.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Or space them out. You know, if you got ten,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: roll out three and depending on how those go, drop
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: the project together and throw those three back on the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: project for sure, you know so, and it only adds
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: to extreame count. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: So it How active are you in the studio? Are
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you like in all the time.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: All the time? Yeah, all the time. Right now, it's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: been kind of tough because like my my main engineers
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: working with Brody, they're doing some crazy shit for a
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: lot of artists. So and not only that, but we've
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: been on the road that past two months.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I mean the Ontario show was crazy, legendary.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Everybody in their mom came out. Yeah, we turned that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to a party. It was like it felt like one
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of those like big radio shows. Yeah, it's like, damn
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: all in La came out at that motherfucker.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: No. But the craziest part too, is it the one
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: in Glendale? Yeah, in As that one was so crazy
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: because it was like the homies were already there, like
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: its greedo, sad, greedo jeezy Kaylin, Kaylin, you know what
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I mean. And it's like it towards j Z's end
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: of the set, everyone just came out on stage, show love,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's where like the
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: vibe was, you know, we left, We left the venue like, bro,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: we gotta do something like this. But in La, for sure,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, to where it's like, yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like those shot outs to Jason and those guys.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: They always do who Wants Smoke shows, but they always
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: doing Ontario. But yeah, it's always like Ontario. I they
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: just sitting out to Vegas. But it's like they gotta
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: do the Forum. You know what I meant to do
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the farm or something like to where it's more you
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: know for sure. But I mean I'm not mad at
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: it though, because already end of the day is a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: good time.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: You already got your next single picked out.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a single with me and Bravo.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I just got.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I just sent it over to Big Sad on it too,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm trying to wait a little bit so I
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: can get his verse. But be hard yet to get
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: all three guys on it. Come on. That's I'm telling
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: you that that one in itself, like with just Bravo
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: on it, is one of my favorite tracks I've made
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: in like two years.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: What's it like growing up in Pacoima, because Pacoima is
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: some of the best Mexican food in the world is
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: in Pacoima. Yeah, my East Coast be cracking out there. Yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: it's also probably in the valley considered like one of
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it's probably the most dangerous city in the valley. It's
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like probably Pacoima panoramic city.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean Pacoima. I would say it's just
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: an experience you got to like live, you know what
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, Everything from like the ice Cream Man, which
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: we hardly see nowadays, right, you know, to the palaeo. Man,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: it's like the people who walk around with the corn.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like my childhood was like for Pacoima in itself.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't. I'm not gonna sit here and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: say that I experienced a lot out of it because
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I'm talking. So I spent
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of my time with my cousins right or
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of us. So I never felt
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: like I was missing anything. So it was either Pacoima
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: or North Hills, you know. So those are the two
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: places I bounced back and forth from because my family,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: my grandma, like my home base basically from my like
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: my bloodline was right there in North Hills. But I
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: grew up where I grew up and where like I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: laid my head and stuff like that. With Pacormia, you.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Never were like, uh, tempted to get into the gang
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: life because it is it is pretty active out there.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of Hispanic gangs, you know, Perma part
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: rules out there.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the two piece people. No, not really, I mean,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and it's not even that, it's not even that I
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: was like, obviously, people are influenced by what they're around
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But was I like tempted
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: to go from there? Not not really, but like a
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: lot of my family, a lot of my family members
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: bang yeah. So it was never like I'm seeing that.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Why would I wrap something else?
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like too,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: It's like that it could go either way with that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: It's like if you see your family wrapped up in
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: some shit, it can deter you from like doing it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: It's almost like if you grew up around I'm like, like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I've never done like hard drugs. Obviously smoking, we do
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: mushrooms all that shit, but I never did, like know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: like real I'm never goingn cocaine, never popped the pain pill,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: no hardcore like real drugs. Because I saw like my
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: whole family's like tweakers and drug addicts and my caroin
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: addicts and shit. So I'm like that shit. I saw
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that shit growing up, and I was just like, nah, shit.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I barely started smoking weed. I was like nineteen twenty,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it wasn't like something
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I was I would like, I wasn't smoking as a kid.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even I wasn't even drinking like that until
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I turned twenty one.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I feel it. I mean, and I feel
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: like if I played Pop warn Or two, it might've
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: turned out a little different. But I didn't like my childhood.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I was only doing basketball. So from like of age,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: like six years old, you up until high school, I
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: was hooping.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. So, did you ever
• 26:49
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• 26:52
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was either I was hooping and then
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: got to high school and sowitched the whole program up
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: to football.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how serious did the football dream get for you,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: did you play, like consider going to college to play?
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Or nah? Hell, I don't even take my SATs. I knew,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: like as soon as I knew from the get I
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to college.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: But both of my brothers, see like I got two brothers.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I got a older brother, yeah, and a younger brother.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: My older brother, true Polynesian, true Polynesian, six four, like
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: three sixty five right now, just a specimen of a being.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: We're only we're only like sixteen months apart. Crazy, you
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But he's like true tonguing offensive lineman, ready to go
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: both offense and defense.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: He's a no tackle offensive defense. So he went to
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: UH he went to U of A. And then my
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: baby brother, he just he looked just like me. He
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: went to ASU. So my my parents went their whole
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: teams in a Yeah, my parents went two for three
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: rivals out there. Yeah exactly exactly when they go against
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: each other and ship like that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Are they currently in college now?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Not? My little brother graduated early and my older brother
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: graduated like years ago.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Like, if if you weren't doing music, what could you
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: see yourself doing professionally? Mmmm?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: That's a good one shore. I don't know. I don't know.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I had this dream of being a fireman. I mean
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: that could be fun, but other than that, I don't know,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Like I really because outside even when I was you
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: know how I told you, like I've been on and
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: off with music. Even when I was off the music,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I was around music, right, you know what I mean,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Like all my homies and rappers. So like one of
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: my best friends is Kaitln. Yeah, so when I was
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: off music, all I was doing was kicking it with
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: bro you know. So I would go to the studio,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't for me, right you know. So he's
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: another person that kind of like really influenced me and
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: helped me out a lot because when I wasn't doing
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: nothing musically, he kind of like kept that spark alive,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: right you know. So I was heavily, heavily influenced by
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: like his work ethic even his music in itself too,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: because like he's a lot of bag yeah with the melody,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: you know. So like one thing about bros, like he'll
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: work his ass off for sure. He'll work is and
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of people don't see it. He don't get
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the recognition because obviously people don't see that side.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: But he Yeah, there's certain people who's like studio process,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you'd be like super tripped out by like damn, like
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: if they weren't really like And then you'll be in
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like the studio with other people who like work a
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: little slower yeah, and.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: You're like.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, like Kalen is one of those guys, like
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: my artist Alexis, this kid can do a whole fucking
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: album and like a fucking no.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: He saw I came here my last time here was
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: he he asked me to pull up, mind you, he'd
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: be up crackhead hours. He called me like three am.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: It's that cocaine.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he called me three am and was like what
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: are you doing. I'm like, shit sleeping and he was
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: like pull up to pull up to the studio right now,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play my album crazy shit like you know.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like it's like when you like, I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: feel like everyone has their own process. But when you're
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: in the studio with like if you're homiees like yo,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: and then you get in the studio with somebody who
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: takes their time a little bit more, You're like, Yo,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: these motherfuckers are slow.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's and it's crazy because when we go
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: if me and Cale and go pull up on another
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: artist to do a feature or something like that, he
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: treats it. And this is what like I kind of
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: picked up on. He treats it as like a friendly competition,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: you know, like as soon as he likes to be,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: he's on it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Always just like stuns the other person.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Like damn, bro, Grito's like that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: We had Grito get on some ship and Grito just
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: like he's like, all right, play it and he just
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: went in and just like, damn, your one take is versive.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Greta is another fast worker, too, super fast.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: And then you go to like other studio sessions like
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Jesus session, the control room quiet, nobody hears nothing until
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: it's done, you know what I mean. So like that's
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: also a trip too, because like it's different, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: so everyone's recording process is different. But I was blessed
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and I was fortunate enough to like kind of pick
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: away at a lot of stuff and kind of just
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: take away what I like and see what I'm good
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: at and then just do it, you know, just practice
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: it on my own, Like when I step away from them,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: So I definitely was like blessed in that sense.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: So you got the new record with Jeez going crazy.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: You've been on the road because you guys just did Anchorage, Alaska. Yeah,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I mean music took you to Anchorage. That's gotta be crazy.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: The craziest part is, like I'm going I'm I'm I'm
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: going with gis all these places with the mindset of
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: like I'm going there as support a lot of people,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of or damn near nobody knows who I am, right,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: So Angers was a trip because I'm walking through the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: crowd to go send them my visuals like if you
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: played in the background, and it's like, mind you, there's
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of tongs out there that I didn't know.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I just found out that Alaska was a state. So
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm like tripped out. But I'm walking through the
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: crowd and it's like I'm getting stopped taking pictures like
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you feelings like oh shoot, you're maka.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They have like I forget what the name of
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: because there's like the people who are native to Alaska
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: before it became a state. There's a name. I don't
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: want to fuck it up. They're not they don't like
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: to be called Eskimos. There's a name for him. It's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: like a type of Native people out there, but they're
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: not Eskimos. That's I think that's kind of slurrish from
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: what I understand. I think.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: So I think it's like, yeah, I think we're being
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: racist right now.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I don't mean, I don't mean to be. I just
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just off the head. But yeah, no, it's this
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: whole I mean, shout out to Alaska.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: It was cold, Uh, it was cold, but Colorado was colder.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Bro I was freezing Colorado.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: You guys get Red Red Rocks, which is like one
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: of the most legendary venues man, and I was. Kevin
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Gates was on the show too.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: He was a headliner. Yeah, he was a headliner. But
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Red Rocks is probably the best venue I've ever been to.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: You know, that ship's a movie. Even the drive up
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: was so scenic. It was like crazy, and it was raining,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: so there was like a lot of red clay on
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: the floor. But I feel like he made the experience
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: a lot better. Like, you know, so that show, I'm
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: telling you was insane. I was surprised they didn't headline it,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: but shout out Kevin Gate.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I was telling Rory the same thing.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, you guys, do you
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: guys get headline red Rocks like shots Kevin Gates. Kevin
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Gates get headline red Rocks? He did, know I'm saying,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, you guys got to go spin the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: block on that ship.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Like now we they definitely talked to the right person,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: so you know, there we might be at Red Rocks again.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: But for the first time, that shit was dope, you
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I was even asking people
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: that were out there in Colorado. I was like, it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Kevin Big out here. They're like, oh, dude, love Kevin.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Ye, people love bro Kevin Gates has a thing. Yeah,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: it's He's huge, bro. And it's crazy too because like
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: it's like almost like turned into this like cult following
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: even though he's like a huge artist, Like people don't
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: understand how like committed his fans are.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: No. And see, that's what I preach to like a
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: lot of people and even to like my team, is
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that I don't see music as the.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: End, you know what I mean.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: So I Kevin Gates is a good example, but the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: example I always use is like somebody like Blueface, right,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: so their whole get down is like it doesn't even
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: matter if they drop music or not, or how long
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: it's been since they drop music. They have core fans
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: who are like they're in tune to what they're doing
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: as a personality.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, blue Face has turned the like his life into
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a reality show for the.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Last six or seven in his work, and he's going crazy.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: It works because people are so personally invested in his
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: life that they're like, yo, what's up with the baby
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: mama and the other baby mamas? And it's like, like
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the toy's doing right now, it looks like it's going
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: very well, like blue Face. I mean even you know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: he took you know, I feel like a lot of
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: people think it's too late to get into the streaming game.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: But he got got out of prison and got right
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to the streaming shit. Yeah, I heard he just got
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: a crazy deal with Kick Like.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: But that's what a lot of people don't understand is that, like,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: music can only get you so far, and you can
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: do really well in music, but if you can get
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: a group of people, I know, people that don't listen
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: to Blue Face and music but was tune into a stream,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it's all.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And yeah, there's people who are Kevin Gates fan. That's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the only rapper they like, like you know what I mean,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Like for sure, you know.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: What I mean. So I like, I want to try
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: to use the music as like that driving factor to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: give me to that point where it's like it doesn't
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: matter what I do, you know, because and everyone's situation
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: is different, Like people like Frank Ocean for being mysterious
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: for sure, you know what I mean. He's like the
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: only person who could really be named as a headliner
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: for Coachella and then pull out last minute.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And as to his personality, his person adds.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: To the whatever the aura or like, because even when
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: he did perform that first weekend, it kind of didn't perform,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: But he's like, I'm Frank Ocean, I do whatever the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: funk I wanted exactly. He's like the mail Lauren Hill.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And then people gonna go for it, yeah you know
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Like they're not canceling him because he
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: pulled out last minute. They're like, that's on Frank Ocean.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Shit have been I would have been mad. Likes almost
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: about tickets for my son to go, and I'm like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I thank god I didn't.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of people were mad at to
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Justin Bieber.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I thought that ship was cool, But I also wasn't there.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: You know. I thought that ship was a vibe. That's
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the close thing you're gonna get to kicking it with JV,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you want to know
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: what it's like the kid like.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: That's probably what it's gonna get hundred percent.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: So I thought that ship was cool.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was unique. I
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: never seen thating like that before, for sure.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Did you were you there? No? I just watched on
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: YouTube shout the beach Man. All right, man, we'll listen
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to a new single on the way, hopefully with Big
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Shad and Bravo's already on it. Yeah, record will though
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Jezus out.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, and then hopefully album coming out by the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: end of this year. You know.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: So, where can people find you on? On Instagram and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: all that good stuff?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, Macha underscore, underscore, Tea on Instagram, uh and everywhere else?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Really tiktoks the same thing, and then Maca on Apple
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Music and Spotify.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Go support this guy, Macha appreciate you pulling up.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, love, thank you, thank you?
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