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Drive Thru News #9 - April ’21 · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to the drive through, episode number nine, or the second episode
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  of season two, April 2021 edition.
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  This is our monthly recap, where we put together a menu of automotive,
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  motorsport, and random car adjacent news.
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  Now let's pull up to window number one for some automotive news.
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  The end is nigh.
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  The end is nigh.
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  They're coming for us!
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  Tanya, why do you say that?
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  So apparently there is a article talking about the California senators that
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  are pushing our president to finally set an end date for new gasoline
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  car sales in the United States.
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  What is that date?
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  Apparently our friends on the western coast want 2035.
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  To be that deadline.
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  Read my list.
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  No new gas powered vehicles will be sold in the states.
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  So maybe they just want that for themselves and not necessarily
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  the entire United States.
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  I don't know the way I read that article.
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  I mean, it's ambitious for one.
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  It's an aggressive schedule to make that kind of declaration, put the
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  edict on the tree to say 2035, but I did read on to see they are saying
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  for the, they are asking for the whole us.
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  Exactly.
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  They're making some changes to the, the standards.
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  They want to see 51 miles to the gallon.
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  They want it to be federalized.
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  We all know that evs are powered, By unicorn farts.
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  So I'm really wondering, you know, what the impact is going to be by 2035.
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  But that's okay because, and you'll hear about this later,
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  but in 2035, you'll still be able to buy a brand new 2016 Dodge.
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  We will get there.
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  You're right.
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  2035.
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  Feels like it's around the corner.
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  And it sort of is.
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  How many movies did you watch in the 80s that said in the year 2020?
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  That was, that was last year folks.
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  Or the Conan
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  O'Brien skit.
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  In the year 2000.
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  Yeah, I was gonna say not even 2020.
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  They were all like in 2002.
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  Begs lots of questions.
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  Do we even have enough?
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  Raw materials for making batteries that could sustain a world,
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  well, at least the United States world that is fully electric.
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  And what about the rest of the globe, Europe and Asia, they're all pivoting,
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  you know, to electrified cars and all of our cell phones and laptops
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  and Xbox and playstations and TVs and everything is battery operated.
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  There are certain raw materials that go into these devices.
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  Not enough.
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  There's not enough lithium to go around.
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  I mean, maybe that's why we're exploring on Mars.
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  We're going to create it or something.
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  I don't know, but I don't think there's enough lithium to go around and, and
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  even recycling it is, is questionable.
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  It's not like a traditional battery where you can use virgin lead, you can use
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  recycled lead and still create batteries.
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  You know, the whole process there, the chemical processes that they, that they're
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  eating the lead and creating electricity.
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  Lithium is a whole nother thing.
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  And is the recycling really there?
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  Well, recycling is great.
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  However, the problem with all kinds of recycling, whether it's your
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  recycling that you put up the street once a week for paper and cardboard
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  and plastics is cost prohibitive.
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  It's very expensive to recycle and that's what gets you is, yeah, maybe you can
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  recycle these lithium batteries 100%, but if it costs you 25 times making a
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  new one, that's cost prohibitive, right?
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  That's what So until you kind of get those costs down, it's difficult to do that.
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  And if that's where we live right now, which is likely because.
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  This is all new.
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  So there aren't just, you know, lithium or whatever recycling centers just sitting
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  out there in in mass that can handle the volume that could be coming down the road.
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  So it'll be interesting.
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  That's why it all just feels like the infrastructure is not there.
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  I mean, there's still going to be tons of gas cars because there's the used
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  car market, but even there, if the emission standards become stringent
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  and they, they kind of go back to one of those policies where it's like,
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  you got to get rid of it because it's not meeting, or you can only drive it
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  X miles a year and all this stuff, or if they implement things like that.
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  Okay, that's great that there's a huge used car market, but then you
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  won't be able to drive the cars.
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  So, I mean, I hate to say people are going to cringe when I say this.
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  There's a few people that have kind of pinned me to the wall before where
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  I say the answer is always diesel.
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  And I know it's not the cleanest thing.
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  If we could figure out how to clean it, they've already proven with
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  diesels, you can get 50, 80, a hundred plus miles to the gallon.
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  If you could do a diesel electric hybrid of some sort, it would be
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  the best pairing of both worlds.
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  But I know we're shying away from fossil fuels, but even if you look at the
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  bigger picture of the 900 pound gorilla in the room, You still have the aging
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  power plants in the United States that are not converted over to green power
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  of any, of any sort of major substance to offset, you know, our coal and, and
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  ancient, you know, aging power plants.
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  So I don't know.
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  It's tough.
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  I think it's aggressive.
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  I think it's ambitious.
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  I'm really curious to see where we are in 2035, if that's the target date, but,
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  well, the other thing is, you know, last month we talked about
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  Porsche unveiling that they're.
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  You know, working on their e fuel, taking CO2 and converting it into gasoline.
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  You know, that solves one component of the emissions problem, the small piece.
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  And so if that comes to fruition, that becomes something that
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  manufacturers can do economically.
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  Because as a follow up piece to that, if we didn't mention it
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  last time, more recent news is ExxonMobil is partnering with them
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  to kind of advance that technology.
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  So If you get majors behind them, and they're able to bring the cost of doing
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  this, this isn't new technology, this has been around for decades, but if the
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  cost to produce comes down and it becomes affordable, well now, we are converting
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  to natural gas, not coal, that's cheaper, that's better in many ways, you know,
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  there's still a cost, emissions cost to creating these batteries and whatnot.
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  If that life cycle piece is equal and you're, you're making gasoline,
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  but that gasoline doesn't have the same level of emissions.
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  How does that change in 2035?
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  Does that make it more attractive?
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  Is that enough to curb the climate issues?
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  Part of the climate issues?
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  I don't know.
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  It's complicated.
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  I still don't think no EVs is the correct answer.
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  I think they do have a place.
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  It would be nice to see them again in major cities.
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  Taxis, buses, things that are just.
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  out chugging and driving and taking up time and space on
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  the road, not going anywhere.
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  If they're not sitting there chugging fumes out the tailpipe,
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  that's a great outlet for EVs.
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  Now, the whole United States on an EV, I don't know, and by
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  2035, no more new gas sales.
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  I mean, the price of EVs, then also the other piece of this, they need to
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  come down because who is going to be able to afford a 60, 70, 80, 000 EV,
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  And then the jolt in your electric bill on, you know, having to charge them on
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  two 20 for rapid charging and all that.
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  I mean, I'm hearing numbers from people where their electric bills
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  jumped 200, 300 a month because they went to EVs and off of gas.
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  So is that about the same as what you're spending in fuel?
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  I don't know.
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  Right.
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  And can we talk
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  about the electric bill for a little bit here?
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  Because Eric, you've got personal experience with a plug in hybrid.
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  So how, how has your electric bill been affected?
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  So for us, because it's only a 33 or 36 kilowatt battery, we charge on a one 20.
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  So it takes about 12 to 13 hours.
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  I monitor all this stuff.
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  I have, you know, one of those, you know, sense monitors and
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  all these kinds of things.
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  I'm, I'm very, I kind of nerd out on all this stuff.
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  I look at it and.
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  It has cost us maybe an average of about 35 extra dollars a
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  month, but that's a small battery.
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  Now you take a car that's solely EV, they can do 300 miles
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  of range, you know, or more.
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  That's a lot more juice that you have to pull down every
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  day for the course of a month.
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  So take my 35 that it's costing to charge the Pacifica that we have, or maybe
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  more, you know, maybe it's like 40, let's just say, let's just call it that.
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  And multiply that out.
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  It's a lot of money at the end of the day.
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  And I don't think people realize that as they go into it, do a total cost
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  of ownership on these vehicles, if you're considering buying one, I mean,
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  I don't advocate not to, or, or to, or whatever, but it's something to consider
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  to your point, because now it's added stress on the grid, on the vehicle.
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  On your house.
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  In some cases, you have to upgrade your electrical system.
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  That could be thousands of dollars, especially if you're in an older
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  house where your service is small, you might need a sub panel, you
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  know, getting electricians involved.
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  There's a lot to this.
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  So I've been looking into it myself.
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  I'd love to have a rapid charger for the Pacifica, but it's cost
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  prohibitive for me to do that.
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  When I can just charge it every night and it's ready by morning.
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  So I don't really care about the speed.
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  On the one hand, there's nothing wrong with setting aggressive targets.
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  Cause.
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  In reality, sometimes you have to just set an aggressive target and you probably know
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  you're not going to make it, but at least it gets people moving in that direction.
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  So it's going to force a lot of different industries to create various
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  infrastructure that's needed to get there.
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  And it's going to force manufacturers to bring down their
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  costs and et cetera, et cetera.
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  It's a whole, it feels like a whole chain of events that need to really
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  happen for this light switch to flip.
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  And suddenly the dealerships don't have a gas or diesel.
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  powered vehicle on their lots anymore.
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  We'll see what the future holds.
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  Just wait.
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  I'm sure the next new thing will, will happen.
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  We don't know, but for now, possibly the end is nigh.
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  And there's a follow up to this.
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  Yeah.
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  So, I mean, in terms of what we were talking about, the raw materials
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  and whatnot, we had reported on the previous episode about the two
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  largest electric vehicle battery manufacturers in South Korea.
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  SK and LG had gotten into a little kerfuffle between trade secrets
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  and this, that, and the other.
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  And, uh, LG
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  accused SK of misappropriating trade secrets, blah, blah, blah.
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  Complaints were filed.
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  Pauses were put in place.
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  Kind of hampering production.
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  They have come to an agreement, which is good for everyone.
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  And because SK had planned on building a battery plant in Georgia, which was
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  going to make the batteries for boards and Volkswagen's, So now that they've
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  resolved their issues that can continue.
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  So that'll be good for both Ford and Volkswagen and for electric car buyers.
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  So at least there are some positive news there that there won't
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  be a huge, long lasting months and months of schedule impact.
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  Good.
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  And you know, since we've been talking about charging and infrastructure
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  and batteries and this and that, let's talk about some Stellantis
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  news with respect to that topic.
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  This one's pretty cool because we heard about.
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  Jeep is now moving into the EV front.
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  I mean, everybody at this point, um, and they had debuted that really cool
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  Wrangler that we talked about, the Magneto and all this stuff, but they also
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  apparently have a plug in hybrid Wrangler that they're launching pretty soon.
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  And with that, they're partnering, I guess, with, or working with
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  Electrify America, basically to create a charging system because
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  the Wrangler should be trail ready, this, that, and the other, but okay.
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  Trails.
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  I go hiking, I've been to a lot of different places.
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  They're in remote ish places.
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  Not, you know, downtown metropolises, tons of people,
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  tons of stores and all that stuff.
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  You're off the beaten path a lot of times.
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  Isn't that the point of going on a trail is to get off the beaten path
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  and get away from civilization?
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  So how is
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  this going to work?
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  Exactly.
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  So, you know, how are you, you know, millions of miles, that's an
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  exaggeration from civilization, from the nearest gas station, if you will,
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  or electric starting station, you know, your little Evie runs out of juice.
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  Now what?
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  Yeah.
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  You're in your Wrangler stuck in the Moab and Ford comes and picks you up.
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  Right.
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  Cause they've got their onboard generator and they give you some juice
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  diesel generator.
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  Yeah.
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  So, so they're creating a charging network.
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  It's going to be located kind of at trail heads of starting out as some of the
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  more famous spots like Moab and Utah, the Rubicon trail, big bear in California.
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  That's pretty cool.
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  In my opinion.
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  I mean, this is a hybrid Wrangler, so.
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  Once it runs out of its EV juice, it has other power behind it.
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  But I think this is pretty cool.
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  I like it also from the aspect that if they can put those electric stations
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  in, then they could also impact the forest department, if you will.
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  Parks and Rec guys, because, you know, all their trucks, maybe
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  they could convert the fleet.
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  If anybody gives them money, convert the fleet to hybrids or full electrics as
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  you're just kind of like going around the little, you know, trail towns
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  and whatnot and doing the service and all the good forest keeping they do.
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  I mean, that would also be another positive impact because it'd also be less
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  pollution in, in those beautiful areas.
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  So I think it's a positive.
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  There might also be an environmental impact with running all those lines out
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  to federal preserve land and all that.
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  So I think there's still a lot to be figured out.
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  There's a lot of logistics there.
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  Like we were talking about, there's a lot of politics, a lot of bureaucracy,
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  a lot of red tape, but I will tell you this, there's probably not going to
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  be a charging station in Machu Picchu.
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  So if I ran out of power, I know who I'd call Bruce, Bruce.
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  If you're out there, I need your help.
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  I've run out of electricity.
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  And speaking of lost and found.
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  Yes, we've got a segment that we're dubbing lost and found.
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  It's a long list of a long line in a mini series that started a couple episodes ago.
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  But if you all remember, we heard that there was a Dodge Viper that, you know,
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  it was originally discontinued in 2017.
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  That was sold in 2020 in addition to that Viper.
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  Solantis has a knack for selling these undead cars.
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  There was a Ram van that was sold and there was three G Patriots, all of
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  which were terminated prior to 2020.
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  Well, they're at it again.
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  Someone went to a dealership and actually paid.
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  Cold hard cash, or maybe even finance.
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  That's probably more likely at 18%, but they got a 2016 Dutch darts.
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  Yes, you've heard that correctly.
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  I 2016 Dodge dart.
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  The dart did not miss its target this time.
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  And in 2021.
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  Someone bought a brand new 2016 Dodge Dart.
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  So if you're out there,
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  Good job, Stellantis.
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  Keep those numbers
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  up.
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  Yes.
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  Anything they can do to improve their revenue numbers is okay with me.
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  So I have two questions.
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  What
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  terrible color was it that forced it to be on the lot for the last five years?
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  You know what?
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  I have a theory.
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  I think it was on the lot for five years because everybody
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  just assumed it was a used car.
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  So I have a theory.
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  I think it was on the lot for five years because everybody
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  just assumed it was a used car.
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  You know, I bet it's that Nike Gatorade yellow green one that was
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  over at Len Stoller down the road that nobody wanted to buy because it's the
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  most heinous color I've ever seen.
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  That's what I'm thinking.
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  However, my second question is next month, are we going to hear about the remaining
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  PT Cruiser that was sold in 2021?
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  Maybe, maybe.
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  Well, they also sold two Vipers, two brand new Vipers this month in that quarter.
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  Yeah.
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  In the same quarter.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah.
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  Killing it
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  first for someone like Eric, who is a Viper aficionado and
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  is constantly looking for one.
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  You can still buy a brand new one.
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  You know, yeah.
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  Give me an ACR.
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  I got 50 bucks.
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  I'm down.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, what's the depreciation?
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  What's the depreciation on these things?
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  That's just it.
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  What are they getting a screaming deal?
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  Are they still,
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  so a 2016 Dodge Dart probably financed at 125 percent because they rolled
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  in the negative equity from their other car, which was probably a
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  2015 Dodge Dart, and then Brad's a
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  Brad's a numbers guy,
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  and they probably paid about 25 grand for this Dodge Dart.
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  And as soon as they got it off the dealer lot, it dropped to 50 bucks.
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  It's worth 1, 500.
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  It's it's worth it.
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  No, if I bet you, if you took that car from the Dodge dealer to
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  CarMax, they would offer you 500.
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  So these cars sit there for as long.
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  So that means that like enterprise and national Avis.
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  Nobody
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  wanted it.
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  They don't even want them.
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  And how does the warranty work?
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  Like it's already five years old and it's got no miles on it.
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  It's it's out of warranty immediately.
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  The
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  warranty is from the date.
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  Most of the warranties are from the date.
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  It's it's it's um, not purchased.
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  Or is it the date it's purchased?
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  I thought it was the date of manufacturing.
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  That's craziness.
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  I don't know.
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  God, enjoy it
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  by a brand new five year old Dodge Dart, but they also bought one out of warranty.
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  Hold on a second.
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  Click, click, click, click, click.
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  Oh, it's on bring a trailer now for 47, 000.
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  So you can get it today.
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  Low mileage Dodge
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  Dart.
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  All right.
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  47, 000 pennies.
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  You can pick up your Dodge Dart.
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  I mean, that's a little.
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  sitting there on a lot for that long.
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  I mean, I hope they monthly ran it, drove it around, put a couple of miles on it.
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  Yeah.
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  It's a Dodge Dart.
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  Why do you even bother?
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  It's like, who cares?
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  So I kid you not.
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  So talking about Dodge Dart, I recently watched an episode rerun of roadkill.
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  And they did a drag race between a brand new Dodge start.
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  And one of the old ones, like from back in the sixties, they said, and I
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  thought it was funny, it cracked me up.
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  They were like the Dodge dart is like the slowest production.
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  Mopar like hands down in the last 30 years, it does a
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  quarter mile in like 19 seconds.
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  I mean, we know a bone stock Audi coupe GT five cylinder making like 130 horsepower
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  will do the quarter in like 30 seconds.
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  16 or something insane.
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  Right?
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  So I'm like, it is so slow.
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  So their target time to beat, like barely doing bolt ons on a, like a 64
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  Dodge Dart was like incredibly high.
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  They're like, we can do this without even trying like beating this car.
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  So what they ended up doing was dropping it from a helicopter about a quarter mile
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  up just to see if the speed was faster.
• 19:26
  It was, it was not, but, uh, it was actually very entertaining.
• 19:29
  Go look for the Dodge Dart episode of Roadkill.
• 19:32
  It'll put you in stitches.
• 19:34
  So let's switch to our, let's call it our favorite brand around here.
• 19:38
  Maybe we have a bias.
• 19:39
  I don't know.
• 19:40
  We're definitely Volkswagen, Audi group people, not all of us in GTM, but there's
• 19:44
  a fair portion of us here that are.
• 19:46
  So let's switch over to some VAG news.
• 19:49
  So for many of you that may not know Volkswagen group or Volkswagen
• 19:54
  Audi group actually owns Bugatti a little while ago this month, a guy
• 19:59
  named Patrick Piper did a rendering of a Bugatti Superbike concept.
• 20:05
  And he calls it the Vitesse, you know, hearkens back to the, I
• 20:09
  think there was a Chiron Vitesse.
• 20:11
  Um, there was a Veyron Vitesse, you know, and so on and so forth.
• 20:15
  Wasn't there the
• 20:15
  Bugatti Baby 2 Vitesse?
• 20:17
  There's the Baby
• 20:18
  2, there's the Baby 2 Vitesse, there's the Baby 2.
• 20:22
  There's the speed in French.
• 20:23
  Is that what that means?
• 20:24
  The more you know.
• 20:25
  Uh, but anyway, this guy rendered this bike, I'd say it's, it's a cross between
• 20:30
  a Cafe Racer And it looks like the front end is very similar to a Chiron.
• 20:36
  There you go.
• 20:37
  What did he say?
• 20:38
  Tron light cycle.
• 20:38
  It's a Tron
• 20:39
  light cycle, yes.
• 20:39
  It looks very similar.
• 20:40
  Just
• 20:40
  missing the LEDs.
• 20:42
  To a
• 20:42
  Tron light cycle.
• 20:42
  It looks like it doesn't have any lights at all.
• 20:44
  Did I see him there?
• 20:45
  There's no lights.
• 20:46
  I don't
• 20:46
  understand how it turns.
• 20:49
  The worst turning radius in the planet.
• 20:51
  of the Viper motorcycle that they had a couple of years ago.
• 20:54
  It turns
• 20:55
  with the rear.
• 20:56
  Yeah.
• 20:57
  All you gotta do is wrap the throttle.
• 20:59
  I didn't see, did he, in the rendering, did he want to do a
• 21:03
  16 cylinder quad turbo motor?
• 21:05
  Because that would be pretty sick.
• 21:08
  I don't know.
• 21:09
  I think it looks really cool.
• 21:10
  Some of the, I mean, they're all renderings because it's all
• 21:12
  CGI because it does not exist.
• 21:13
  I don't know.
• 21:14
  But the one in the wind tunnel looks really slick.
• 21:16
  I think
• 21:17
  I agree.
• 21:17
  It does look pretty cool.
• 21:18
  I would like to see them build a concept and just try it.
• 21:21
  I mean, why not?
• 21:22
  I mean, now Bugatti is not known for motorcycles, but I get it.
• 21:26
  The here's the, here's the Kevin Bacon connection, folks.
• 21:29
  Volkswagen owns Audi.
• 21:31
  Audi owns Ducati.
• 21:33
  Bugatti is in there, Lamborghini, all this whole mess.
• 21:35
  It's all one big happy family.
• 21:36
  It makes sense for them to try a bike like this.
• 21:38
  So it's probably a, you know, or would be a Ducati at the end of the day with
• 21:41
  some sort of skin on it and Bugatti flare and all that kind of thing.
• 21:44
  So I say, send it, man.
• 21:46
  I wanna see it.
• 21:47
  Let's, let's try it.
• 21:48
  I agree.
• 21:48
  And if they made it and then they tried to sell it, they could sell it under volts.
• 21:53
  Wagon, which we're going to talk about later and it could be an electric bike.
• 21:58
  Did we go there?
• 21:59
  Did we really just go there?
• 22:00
  Let's talk about Volkswagen and electric vehicles.
• 22:03
  Tanya, should we start with
• 22:05
  it?
• 22:05
  What's it a name?
• 22:06
  We should, we really should.
• 22:07
  Sure.
• 22:08
  Sure.
• 22:08
  So what day was it?
• 22:10
  It was March 31st.
• 22:11
  No, it
• 22:12
  wasn't even, it was like March 29th or March 30th.
• 22:15
  Oh my God.
• 22:16
  Yeah.
• 22:16
  So the geniuses at Volkswagen came up with a great idea.
• 22:20
  I'm having a putt card.
• 22:22
  Face palm moment, folks.
• 22:24
  You can't see it in the audio, but that is exactly what I'm doing now.
• 22:27
  Several years ago, I think it was in the early two thousands.
• 22:31
  Dodge spun off the Ram truck division into its own brand.
• 22:36
  And more recently, you know, within the last five years, Hyundai
• 22:39
  did the same thing with Genesis.
• 22:41
  Genesis is its own kind of brand or sub brand now Volkswagen.
• 22:46
  Made an announcement that they were going to spin off their
• 22:49
  entire electric car division and call it a Volt Wagon of America.
• 22:56
  I think it was only in the US market that they were going to do this.
• 22:58
  Correct?
• 22:59
  Is that what that's what I read?
• 23:00
  I mean the way I read it was Volkswagen of America was going to become Bolt's wagon.
• 23:06
  Oh Which just confused me because I, what happens to my Volkswagen right now?
• 23:13
  I mean, if
• 23:14
  you think about it, if they're trying to go all EV, then
• 23:17
  eventually Volkswagen would be Volkswagen, Volkswagen, Volkswagen.
• 23:23
  I'm confused.
• 23:23
  I'm
• 23:24
  lost.
• 23:25
  But anyway, but anyway,
• 23:26
  they announced it or somebody announced it or leaked it or whatever.
• 23:30
  It got a ton of backlash, very much like the Sonic the Hedgehog movie.
• 23:34
  And Volkswagen said, no, no, no, no, no, no, just kidding.
• 23:37
  We not going to do this.
• 23:38
  I
• 23:40
  mean, at the end of the day, they came back and said that it was an early
• 23:43
  release of an April Fool's style prank and that the name isn't changing.
• 23:48
  On the
• 23:49
  play flag on the play.
• 23:53
  All right.
• 23:54
  Uh, this stinks.
• 23:55
  There's something rotten in Norway here.
• 23:57
  All right.
• 23:58
  And it's not Will Ferrell in that Cadillac commercial that
• 24:00
  we talked about last month.
• 24:02
  This is a mess.
• 24:03
  I'm sorry.
• 24:04
  I get it, it's like corny dad jokes, but you don't change the name of a hundred
• 24:09
  plus year old company just like that.
• 24:11
  Yeah, I don't like it for that reason.
• 24:13
  Cause it's like, you don't, the name has been around for so long, good or bad.
• 24:17
  I mean, it's the company's name.
• 24:19
  I mean, it's just cause I have personal feels about it, I guess.
• 24:22
  Owning one.
• 24:25
  Well, what, what's next?
• 24:26
  They're gonna change from Porsche to, to Porsche with a ED.
• 24:30
  Well, or Volvo
• 24:30
  becomes vol.
• 24:32
  I, I don't know.
• 24:34
  Well,
• 24:34
  I think with Porsche, they're just gonna tell us how to
• 24:36
  actually pronounce it for once.
• 24:39
  Yeah.
• 24:39
  Really?
• 24:40
  Is it Porsche?
• 24:41
  Is it Porsha?
• 24:43
  A porch is something you sit on that, that I know.
• 24:45
  Yeah.
• 24:46
  You can sit on those duck bill wings.
• 24:48
  I the, the duck bill ducktails, the whale
• 24:50
  tails for sure.
• 24:50
  Yeah, the
• 24:50
  whale tails.
• 24:51
  You can have lunch on one of those.
• 24:53
  So because of all this nonsense and shenanigans,
• 24:56
  I mean, at any rate, there was a lot of, no, no, this is true.
• 24:59
  This is true.
• 24:59
  This is true.
• 25:00
  And then all of a sudden, no, it's not.
• 25:03
  It was true enough to drive up the stock price though.
• 25:08
  And exactly.
• 25:09
  And now apparently the SEC is maybe filing a little investigation because that
• 25:15
  little brouhaha drove the share prices up 16 percent or something of that nature.
• 25:21
  So.
• 25:21
  Didn't Elon Musk do the same thing with Tesla?
• 25:24
  You know, cause we love the rag on Tesla.
• 25:25
  All
• 25:26
  the time.
• 25:26
  You did the
• 25:26
  same thing with a tweet about Tesla a couple of years ago and
• 25:30
  the SEC was up his butt too.
• 25:32
  We'll talk about Tesla's
• 25:34
  butt later.
• 25:38
  Spoiler alert.
• 25:39
  So in, in briefer news, uh, Volkswagen, excuse me.
• 25:43
  Now nobody knows how to say it.
• 25:45
  VW.
• 25:48
  You can never go wrong with VW.
• 25:50
  Well, I'm changing it to Schwagen.
• 25:52
  That's what I'm calling it from the Schwagen company.
• 25:54
  Volkswagen, Volkswagen, Schwagen.
• 25:57
  No,
• 25:58
  no.
• 25:59
  There is finally a date for the ID Buzz.
• 26:03
  So the electric minibus.
• 26:05
  Is going to come to the shores over here in 2023 as a 2024 production model.
• 26:13
  Europe's gonna get it before us, I think like 2022.
• 26:16
  But yeah, it's coming.
• 26:17
  It is actually coming.
• 26:19
  So we will hopefully, I would love to see one trundle down the
• 26:23
  road, a little Volkswagen Mini.
• 26:26
  But if
• 26:26
  you can't get one, if you can't get in as an early adopter, you
• 26:31
  can still buy a 2016 Dodge Dart.
• 26:34
  That joke's never going to get old.
• 26:40
  But the last bit of, I guess, Volkswagen Audi news is, you know,
• 26:46
  the e tron is here now, right?
• 26:48
  Is that like the Volt?
• 26:49
  Tron.
• 26:50
  Oh, wait, nevermind.
• 26:52
  Eat Tron.
• 26:53
  I think
• 26:56
  Voltron is copywritten.
• 26:58
  Not
• 26:58
  bad.
• 27:00
  Audi has recently debuted its New A six E-Tron concept on what's
• 27:08
  gonna be their new EV platform.
• 27:10
  They're gonna have their whole, it's gonna be called Premium Platform
• 27:13
  Electric or PPE, not to be confused with personal protective equipment , but
• 27:18
  they're gonna have their own platform in collaboration with Porsche, and they're
• 27:21
  gonna start hitting the road in 2022.
• 27:25
  You know the, it doesn't look terrible, honestly.
• 27:28
  It's a quite elegant, sleek looking Audi.
• 27:31
  It boasts some pretty big numbers as a concept in terms of let's just
• 27:36
  start with battery range, because that's what everybody cares about.
• 27:39
  The claim on concept estimate numbers is 435 miles.
• 27:45
  This is on the WLTP cycle range.
• 27:49
  One of the European standards, the EPA cycle is saying
• 27:53
  more like 390 to 400 miles.
• 27:55
  Still isn't horrific, but the 435 would be a lot better.
• 27:59
  And it's not built yet, so who knows what the actual number is going to be.
• 28:02
  It could be worse, could be better, could be what they're saying.
• 28:05
  At any rate, I think the equivalent horsepower is going
• 28:07
  to be something like 469.
• 28:10
  It's alleging to do zero to 62 miles per hour in less than four seconds.
• 28:14
  So it's going to push you back in your seat a little bit as it doesn't meet 435
• 28:20
  miles of range when you're doing that.
• 28:22
  It's coming soon.
• 28:23
  It's the next offering from Audi.
• 28:25
  Hopefully the price.
• 28:27
  Is going to be, I believe they were saying less than what the E-Tron currently is.
• 28:33
  It's gonna start somewhere in the mid 50,000 range, which is still very
• 28:36
  expensive and out of a lot of people's range, but at least it's moving
• 28:41
  that needle in the right direction.
• 28:42
  I'm sure eventually they'll come out with the A four E-tron and hopefully it'll
• 28:47
  be, you know, that'll probably start in 40 thousands or something like that.
• 28:51
  Yeah, I mean, if they, if they can get it to the $50,000 mark.
• 28:55
  That's really close to the current pricing, I believe, for the A6 anyway, so
• 29:00
  if they can get the electric vehicles to cost in the ballpark of what the gassers
• 29:06
  cost, then I think that's okay, because they're still catering to their market.
• 29:11
  Audi's starting to make more moves, just like all the other Majors out there.
• 29:15
  So we'll see who's next or what's next,
• 29:19
  but moving on to random new EVs and concepts, this is going
• 29:23
  to be everything that we know about the Corvette Stingray SUV.
• 29:26
  Yes, because it's a Corvette, this has become my story.
• 29:30
  All things Corvette belong to them.
• 29:31
  All your
• 29:31
  base are belong to us.
• 29:33
  And all your Corvette belong to me.
• 29:35
  And basically everything we need to know about the Corvette
• 29:38
  Stingray SUV is that Chevrolet should not make this stupid thing.
• 29:44
  That's what we know.
• 29:45
  That's all
• 29:45
  we know right now.
• 29:46
  Chevrolet artists shouldn't have just Taken a rendering of the
• 29:49
  Mach E and put a Corvette badge on
• 29:52
  the hood.
• 29:53
  You know, I was thinking that, but it looks like they took the C8 nose
• 29:57
  and put it on the front of a Yuris.
• 29:59
  It's even a Yuris color and yum yum yellow.
• 30:02
  I mean, it's ridiculous.
• 30:04
  I noticed that too.
• 30:06
  Yeah.
• 30:06
  It's, it's definitely a copycat of several cars and whether it's fact or fiction.
• 30:12
  I don't know how I feel about an EV carrying a Corvette moniker
• 30:16
  in the way that the Mustang does.
• 30:18
  I can get behind the, what we talked about in an earlier episode where
• 30:22
  they don't want to put out the Grand Sport, but they're talking about coming
• 30:25
  out with like a C8 that's electric.
• 30:27
  I could get behind that.
• 30:28
  Yeah, the e ray, I can get behind that, but, but a truck with a Cort patch.
• 30:33
  I, I dunno why
• 30:34
  acres do this.
• 30:35
  They, Ford ruined the, the Mustang name with the Mustang Mach e,
• 30:41
  like to the point where nobody even calls it the Mustang Mach e.
• 30:44
  It's just the Mach E, which is what it should have been.
• 30:47
  Mitsubishi did this with the Eclipse moniker.
• 30:50
  They destroyed it by putting it on, I mean.
• 30:52
  The Eclipse was a piece of crap anyway, but they destroyed the
• 30:55
  name that had some heritage by putting it on an SUV, a little SUV.
• 31:01
  And now Chevrolet General Motors is doing this with the Corvette.
• 31:05
  I think is the worst idea ever.
• 31:08
  I
• 31:08
  think this is right along the lines of the new trailblazer.
• 31:12
  Mountain Mandate.
• 31:13
  I'll talk about all these.
• 31:14
  If you're, you know, back in the days of the K 10s and the
• 31:15
  Jimmies and all those kinds of
• 31:18
  trucks.
• 31:19
  Yeah, when the blazer was the blazer right now you look at it, you're like,
• 31:22
  that's a Camaro on stilts, right?
• 31:25
  So I can understand where they're going with this idea with the Corvette.
• 31:29
  I can't get behind it though.
• 31:31
  I will definitely get in front of it and run away as quickly as possible.
• 31:34
  But I just I don't I don't get it.
• 31:36
  They're doing what everybody else is doing.
• 31:38
  Everybody's making these.
• 31:40
  They're called the compact crossover SUVs.
• 31:42
  So they're, there's something that's bigger than a golf.
• 31:45
  But smaller than traditional SUV trying to be, you know, Goldilocks
• 31:50
  syndrome here, which one's just right,
• 31:53
  you
• 31:53
  know, if we
• 31:53
  learned anything from BMW, all of the GT cars that they built five years
• 31:58
  ago, if not maybe a little bit longer.
• 32:01
  They were a mistake.
• 32:02
  Don't follow their path.
• 32:04
  It's not worth
• 32:05
  doing.
• 32:06
  If you search a BMW lot, you might actually be able to find a brand
• 32:09
  new one that was made in 2016.
• 32:11
  Well, the problem, the problem with that vehicle, if I recall the one that there
• 32:16
  was like two that were ever on the road is that they're ugly as all get out.
• 32:22
  They, by today's BMW standards, those things are like the Mona Lisa.
• 32:26
  They are gorgeous.
• 32:27
  What are you talking about?
• 32:28
  Well, and that may be true, but.
• 32:31
  I mean, these, all these compact little crossover thingies, if that's what
• 32:36
  they're classified as, the Mach E and Volkswagen's ID4, all that, I mean.
• 32:40
  They're not horrific looking.
• 32:43
  I don't have a pro, I don't have a problem with them making this vehicle.
• 32:48
  'cause it's just, it's the way of the world.
• 32:50
  This is the, this is where everybody's going.
• 32:52
  My problem is with them slapping the Corvette logo and name on it.
• 32:57
  Well, I had the same problem with the Mustang Mach key.
• 32:59
  I don't think Mustang should have been, it should have been called a Mustang.
• 33:02
  And it's not a Mustang.
• 33:03
  No.
• 33:04
  And it should not have a pony on the, on the hood and the grill either
• 33:07
  that, yeah.
• 33:08
  And I agree this is not a Corvette.
• 33:10
  They could have called it a million other things.
• 33:12
  They could have brought back the Pinto name.
• 33:13
  They could have called the Galaxy.
• 33:15
  They could have called it the Palomino.
• 33:17
  Yes.
• 33:17
  Called, let's call it, let's call it a Pinto, because that would've sold, well,
• 33:21
  the Grand Torino, I don't care what they call it, just don't slap a Mustang
• 33:24
  badge on it to fluff up the numbers.
• 33:26
  That's just stupid, but you know who's doing it right.
• 33:29
  We hinted at this months ago that Hyundai was up to something.
• 33:33
  There was something on their website that they were going to reveal
• 33:36
  boxy looking sort of E30 BMW ish.
• 33:39
  We couldn't really tell what it was.
• 33:41
  They went in completely the opposite direction.
• 33:44
  They took an original Jujaro design, 1970 Hyundai Pony
• 33:49
  turned it into a modern EV car.
• 33:52
  So they did.
• 33:53
  A factory approved restomod.
• 33:56
  And if you haven't seen this thing yet, it is pretty wild.
• 33:59
  Now, granted a lot of the Jujaro cars from that era kind of look the same.
• 34:04
  Right.
• 34:04
  The Scirocco, the pony, a lot of the launches.
• 34:07
  He, at that time, he was kind of going through a phase, you know, but it's pretty
• 34:11
  cool to see this now what 50 year old car out there and been given new life.
• 34:18
  As an EV and some really cool and inspired designs, especially in the interior.
• 34:24
  I got really excited when I first saw this because when you glance like at
• 34:29
  the photo or whatever, and it, the, like the cover photo is from behind for a
• 34:34
  second there, I thought it was a Trueno.
• 34:36
  I was like, Oh my God, is this an AE86?
• 34:40
  Well, the first reaction I had was, is this a Chivette?
• 34:42
  And then I realized it was a Pony, but yes.
• 34:46
  And that's like, you know, you blink sideways and looked really fast.
• 34:49
  And then I just got excited by, you know, AE86, like an original one.
• 34:54
  And then found out, no, it's not that at all.
• 34:56
  It's this Hyundai.
• 34:57
  I mean, I think it's pretty cool because I like the idea of actually
• 35:01
  like, this is the original car.
• 35:03
  Whether or not this is the best looking car ever.
• 35:07
  Uh, you know, that's.
• 35:08
  Surely in the eyes of the beholder and debatable.
• 35:10
  I mean, it's not, I mean, it's, it's cute.
• 35:12
  It's charismatic.
• 35:14
  So I'm going to throw out a challenge for us.
• 35:16
  I think we at GTM should do this.
• 35:18
  We should get an old Mark two golf or GTI or whatever, and put an EV power
• 35:24
  plant on it and just play with it.
• 35:26
  Modernize it with EV technology and stuff.
• 35:29
  Why?
• 35:30
  Because much like Dodge, there's a bunch of e golf sitting on Volkswagen
• 35:33
  dealership lots that we could just buy brand new today and save a lot of hassle.
• 35:36
  But it's not the perfect little boxy ones.
• 35:39
  I know, I know of a, of a Audi coupe GT with a heck of a lot of front engine.
• 35:47
  Hood space.
• 35:48
  Yeah, yeah, you can put anything in the front of those.
• 35:51
  Got space for miles.
• 35:53
  Flipping the coin on retro, a name we haven't heard in a while, and a name
• 35:57
  that's synonymous with darkness, Morris Garage, better known as MG to the world.
• 36:04
  I had no
• 36:05
  idea it meant Morris Garage.
• 36:07
  You didn't?
• 36:08
  No.
• 36:08
  Oh
• 36:08
  yeah, that's what it stands for.
• 36:09
  I learned nothing on our British episode.
• 36:14
  So that being said, MG has come to the table proposing an MGB,
• 36:20
  that's B as in Bravo, inspired EV two seater roadster first glance.
• 36:26
  I looked at and said, what about this car says MGB or MGBGT.
• 36:31
  And none of it resonates with me.
• 36:34
  And the other thing I realized was it's still an MG, which means electronics.
• 36:39
  The whole car
• 36:41
  is electric, so it's a Lucas Electronics car.
• 36:45
  It's a nightmare.
• 36:46
  I mean, good for them.
• 36:47
  If they're going to come back, you're going to really
• 36:49
  have to sell me on this one.
• 36:51
  And if you don't believe me, go listen to our British cars episode and listen
• 36:54
  to some people that own British cars.
• 36:55
  Talk about them.
• 36:56
  Uh, it's a love, hate relationship.
• 36:58
  So this is
• 36:59
  an MGBGTEV.
• 37:02
  That's a lot of letters
• 37:04
  that will not win you any, any points in Scrabble.
• 37:06
  I mean, it's probably going to work since MG is owned by a Chinese company.
• 37:13
  I mean, if it's anything like all the other carbon copies they're putting out
• 37:16
  now, like what was that thing called that looked like a beetle that's not a beetle?
• 37:19
  Oh gosh,
• 37:21
  the tiger paw or the love cat or the
• 37:23
  something cat
• 37:24
  the love cat
• 37:26
  Like the love bug, but the love cat.
• 37:28
  What was that?
• 37:29
  It was really horrific.
• 37:30
  I it's pretty
• 37:31
  terrible Well, i'm reading this it says it's the cyber stir
• 37:35
  concept whatever the f that means
• 37:38
  the punk cat The punk cat there it is punk cat.
• 37:42
  It's a bw beetle rebooted as Punk cat electric car from this time.
• 37:49
  It's like
• 37:49
  the next, the next iteration is going to be the jive turkey.
• 37:54
  Oh man, I got my punk cat part next to my jive turkey.
• 37:58
  We just switched gears here.
• 37:59
  I am all for an electric beetle, but not that thing.
• 38:05
  Nope.
• 38:06
  No, not this.
• 38:07
  This unfortunate, yes, it sort of resembles a very
• 38:11
  early Beatle fastback ish.
• 38:14
  Wise has four doors.
• 38:18
  There's all sorts of wrong with that thing.
• 38:20
  It reminds me of a British taxi cab that's been squished.
• 38:24
  You know, those, the famous black taxi cabs in London.
• 38:27
  Yeah, three
• 38:28
  tone paint job is not doing anything for me either.
• 38:31
  Reverse skunk.
• 38:33
  Switching gears.
• 38:34
  Last month we had Tom Wendy on as our guest host and he's our
• 38:37
  resident Rotard as he calls himself.
• 38:39
  He's all about rotaries.
• 38:41
  He has several RX 7s, one of which we can't find.
• 38:45
  It does exist somewhere, but you know, we talked about how
• 38:48
  Mazda was pulling out of IMSA.
• 38:50
  They need to play catch up with the whole EV market and, you know, hybrids,
• 38:55
  you know, they put a lot of time and effort into their Sky Active program,
• 38:58
  the Atkinson crank engines and whatnot.
• 39:01
  Now they've said they're going to come to the table with something
• 39:04
  known as the MX30, which is going to be an SUV with a rotary longevity
• 39:10
  extender, I believe they're calling it.
• 39:12
  And so it's going to basically be a rotary hybrid instead of a standard gasoline,
• 39:17
  you know, regular piston engine hybrid.
• 39:19
  I am.
• 39:21
  All sorts of confused when I see this car because a rotary is confused me to begin
• 39:26
  with, you know, triangle inside of square makes things go boom and all the math
• 39:29
  that's involved in that and apex seals going out the exhaust valves and whatnot.
• 39:34
  On top of that, it looks like a Miata that's been sort of stretched.
• 39:38
  It has the same lights in the back and it's just kind of awkward looking.
• 39:42
  But then when, as I dove into it a little bit further, the specs
• 39:45
  reminded me of a Miata as well.
• 39:47
  And Mazda is saying.
• 39:49
  That the U S model will produce 144 horsepower in 200 pound foot of torque,
• 39:55
  two different than a Miata, honestly.
• 39:57
  And the battery is only 35 and a half kilowatts.
• 40:00
  And there's no word on what the range of the models is going to be for
• 40:05
  the U S market, things like that.
• 40:06
  Right now, they're saying without the range extender, without the rotary hybrid,
• 40:11
  it'll go about 124 miles on a charge.
• 40:14
  It's really, Not that great.
• 40:17
  And there is no date as to when it's going to become available.
• 40:21
  The rumor has it maybe as early as this year, later this year in the fall,
• 40:25
  but we're still not really certain.
• 40:28
  I think it's kind of cool.
• 40:29
  Mazda is trying something different.
• 40:32
  I don't like it when we beta test things on the public, but, uh, you
• 40:36
  know, Hey, we'll see where it goes.
• 40:37
  Right.
• 40:38
  There was something that you said that kind of.
• 40:41
  Made me go, hmm.
• 40:42
  It was when you mentioned rotary and longevity extender in the same sentence.
• 40:49
  Yeah, I know.
• 40:50
  That's like an oxymoron.
• 40:52
  That doesn't make any sense to me.
• 40:53
  I mean, everybody that's ever heard anything about a rotary
• 40:57
  knows that they're known for their.
• 40:59
  Longevity and reliability.
• 41:01
  Yes.
• 41:01
  Yeah.
• 41:01
  So what ends up happening is it becomes an LS swapped hybrid later in its life.
• 41:06
  Cause that's what usually happens with most referees, right?
• 41:10
  Why don't they just call it the MX five?
• 41:13
  That's what the Miata is.
• 41:14
  Why don't they just follow Chevy's playbook?
• 41:16
  That's true.
• 41:17
  Just relabel it the Miata, right?
• 41:18
  They actually don't call the Miata the Miata anymore.
• 41:21
  I don't know.
• 41:21
  I'm all confused there too.
• 41:22
  Is it the MX 5?
• 41:23
  Is it the Miata?
• 41:24
  What is it?
• 41:24
  I mean, I guess we're playing the name game this month.
• 41:26
  Just for my own edification, what is MX 5?
• 41:29
  How'd they come up with that?
• 41:30
  If this is the MX 30, there's got to be a reason.
• 41:33
  The number has to signify something.
• 41:35
  I'm not sure.
• 41:36
  I don't really know.
• 41:37
  I know like with Toyota, The MR is like short for midship runabout,
• 41:42
  which is weird, but I don't know what the MX stands for, for Mazda.
• 41:46
  I
• 41:46
  always thought MR was for the, for the layout.
• 41:49
  It's a mid engine rear wheel drive.
• 41:52
  We would all believe that to be true, but in Toyota doctrine,
• 41:55
  it says it's short for midship.
• 41:59
  Well, if our two listeners, you know, have access to comments,
• 42:03
  please send us an email and let us know what the MX five stands for
• 42:07
  and what's the MX 30 stands for.
• 42:09
  But looking at Tanya in the other screen there, it looks
• 42:12
  like she's going to tell us.
• 42:13
  Well, according to a very quick search, which I typed in incorrectly,
• 42:19
  but still came up, it says MX five simply stands for Mazda experimental.
• 42:26
  X in the experimental project number five.
• 42:30
  So that's where RX is rotary.
• 42:33
  RX is rotary experimental number seven.
• 42:36
  That's actually true.
• 42:37
  Then there you go.
• 42:38
  So whatever happened to the six through 29 experiments.
• 42:44
  Been
• 42:45
  in the tragic, tragic endings for all of those.
• 42:49
  I don't know.
• 42:50
  We might have
• 42:50
  to, uh, might have to do a little more digging than 30
• 42:53
  seconds worth, um, to verify, but
• 42:56
  no, I think that's all you need.
• 42:58
  Okay.
• 42:59
  All right.
• 43:00
  Then anything else in the Evie world,
• 43:02
  Tanya.
• 43:02
  So rounding out our Evie segment.
• 43:06
  So we've been talking about electric cars, electric SUVs.
• 43:11
  Electric Corvettes, but not Corvettes.
• 43:15
  What about tiny electric cars?
• 43:19
  Well, tiny.
• 43:20
  What are you talking about?
• 43:21
  An electric golf.
• 43:22
  The electric FI 500.
• 43:24
  No, we've talked about them.
• 43:25
  I don't know.
• 43:26
  Think smaller.
• 43:27
  Think like a BMW Isetta, something that fits one person, maybe two people.
• 43:35
  There are some folks out there trying to make this become a thing.
• 43:39
  Tiny electric vehicles that are three wheelers, two wheels in the
• 43:44
  front, one wheel in the back, and you literally can only fit, Up to
• 43:47
  two people, essentially, in them.
• 43:49
  There's, there's three different ones in this article, um, that
• 43:52
  are, that are featured here.
• 43:54
  The first one they show, they made it more the size of a car with, you
• 43:57
  know, an extra wheel in the back.
• 44:00
  It's actually not terrible because it's heavily inspired, I
• 44:02
  think, by, like, Alfa Romeos and whatnot, especially from the front.
• 44:06
  This Nobz GT100.
• 44:10
  It's from Estonia,
• 44:11
  also known for reliability.
• 44:14
  Yes.
• 44:14
  Um,
• 44:15
  uh, at any rate, it's definitely stealing some, some features
• 44:19
  of some other, some other cars.
• 44:21
  And then you've got the micro Lino, which essentially, if you didn't say it
• 44:25
  was a micro Lino, it looks like a BMW Isetta, you know what that looks like.
• 44:30
  And then there's the, uh, Electra Mechanica Solo, which is, I don't know,
• 44:36
  an Opel from the front, maybe, but chopped in the back and only one, one wheel.
• 44:41
  It looks like that.
• 44:42
  What was it?
• 44:43
  Helio or Elio or whatever was supposed to come out with a car in the U.
• 44:46
  S.
• 44:47
  that was very similar to the Electra Mechanica Solo.
• 44:51
  The kicker is apparently they're going to cost You know, potentially as much as a
• 44:56
  full size car ain't nobody going to nobody in this country is going to buy that.
• 45:00
  I mean, I get it like, okay, on the surface, you look at it, you go.
• 45:03
  This is dumb.
• 45:04
  Right?
• 45:07
  3 wheels is the starting point of bad.
• 45:09
  Okay, this
• 45:11
  is dumb.
• 45:12
  A F right?
• 45:13
  Like, why 1 person 2 people?
• 45:17
  Where are you going?
• 45:18
  Electric?
• 45:19
  I mean, negative, negative, negative corner, right?
• 45:23
  But then.
• 45:24
  I could see a point to play devil's advocate.
• 45:27
  People ride around on motorcycles.
• 45:30
  You can only have one person.
• 45:32
  Well, you can have more than one, but typically you only
• 45:35
  have one person on a motorcycle.
• 45:37
  You ain't carrying a lot of, you're not going to the local grocer and
• 45:41
  getting six bags of groceries and carrying them on your motorcycle home.
• 45:45
  You're running an errand.
• 45:46
  You're going to work with a backpack and, and, you know, whatever, that's it.
• 45:51
  So if you're living that life, maybe this is better for you.
• 45:56
  Cause at least when it's raining, your butthole isn't getting wet.
• 46:01
  Oh man.
• 46:04
  I think that in the first car, it's very mousy.
• 46:08
  I think it would be a very fun Halloween car.
• 46:10
  I also think that whoever designed this.
• 46:13
  Uh, his children just watched the Incredibles for the first time in Estonia.
• 46:18
  And because it looks like Mr.
• 46:19
  Incredible drives this car.
• 46:21
  It's it's wacko.
• 46:22
  Now I, I give you props.
• 46:23
  If it had four wheels, I'd be all over it.
• 46:25
  The three wheel thing really turns me off.
• 46:27
  I don't get it, but I also think of him and I go the Ape, which we
• 46:32
  know is, you know, all over the place in Italy is a three wheeler.
• 46:35
  They've been around forever.
• 46:36
  They're tiny.
• 46:37
  I could see those going electric.
• 46:38
  That'd be super useful.
• 46:39
  Wow.
• 46:40
  And I'm instantly reminded of the PLP 50 from Top Gear.
• 46:44
  Remember that little car he drove in an elevator all through the BBC building?
• 46:46
  Yeah.
• 46:47
  So, not so great.
• 46:49
  Cool concept, but I can't ever see these coming to fruition.
• 46:53
  I
• 46:53
  really like the micro, you know.
• 46:55
  Yeah.
• 46:56
  This isn't something that would take steam in this country.
• 47:00
  I mean, maybe in Europe.
• 47:02
  Again, you're up in your countryside, mountainside, and you're just trembling
• 47:06
  up and down and you don't want to ride on a moped, but then you don't want a car.
• 47:10
  I can see it,
• 47:12
  but.
• 47:13
  I need to point a few things out about the microlino.
• 47:15
  So if anybody listened to our ugly cars episode, it's very important.
• 47:19
  Okay.
• 47:19
  So go back and revisit that when you get a chance.
• 47:22
  This is the only thing I think that rivals the Multipla.
• 47:25
  In terms of like stupid placement of beltline, headlights, doors, it is,
• 47:30
  those, those headlights are tragic.
• 47:32
  And by the way, did you notice that's like a 23 inch wiper
• 47:36
  blade on a 13 inch windshield?
• 47:38
  Like how does that even work?
• 47:40
  Those headlights are integrated
• 47:42
  with the side mirrors.
• 47:43
  Come now, they've
• 47:45
  saved.
• 47:45
  This is a mess.
• 47:47
  This car is unsafe to drive in any condition, okay?
• 47:52
  I don't get it.
• 47:54
  How do you uh, how do you adjust the headlights?
• 47:56
  The mirror has to put, this is a mess.
• 47:59
  You adjust
• 47:59
  the headlights with the mirror.
• 48:00
  So you use the little mirror switch and the mirror goes,
• 48:03
  the headlights go the opposite.
• 48:05
  How do you get out?
• 48:06
  If you're in a front end collision,
• 48:07
  I want to see the front impact rating with the crash test dummies in this
• 48:12
  thing, by the way, where's the bumper?
• 48:14
  Get it?
• 48:15
  Because why wouldn't you just have a smart car?
• 48:18
  At this point.
• 48:19
  Yeah, I mean, because they're
• 48:20
  at least you're only going to fit 2 people in those and they're at
• 48:23
  least designed to be roll cages.
• 48:26
  They
• 48:26
  have
• 48:26
  proven
• 48:26
  the
• 48:26
  smart
• 48:27
  cars are extremely safe because the way they're built,
• 48:29
  but they're also not electric, but they
• 48:31
  could be, but they could be, and they're already rear wheel drive.
• 48:35
  They're actually already set up for it.
• 48:37
  A lot of smart cars, at least in Europe are.
• 48:39
  Three cylinder turbo diesels or something.
• 48:41
  I think they were here at least in Canada and North America and whatnot,
• 48:44
  but they'd be the perfect candidate.
• 48:45
  If you're going to go that route, just electrify a smart car and call it a day.
• 48:49
  I mean, maybe the problem is the smart cards too small because these things
• 48:53
  are, well, that Mike really knows probably smaller than a smart car.
• 48:57
  So if they fit some batteries in there, then you wouldn't, I would think
• 49:01
  it's possible on the, um, smart car.
• 49:04
  Honestly, we haven't paid much attention to smart cars.
• 49:07
  So that's something I'm going to have to look into to see what
• 49:10
  they're doing on the EV front.
• 49:12
  They must be doing something.
• 49:14
  Whatever Mercedes is doing
• 49:16
  well, they're slowly coming to the table as well.
• 49:18
  So
• 49:19
  I'll get a swatch watch at the same time that way for most people that
• 49:22
  don't know, smart is a cooperative investment between swatch and Mercedes.
• 49:28
  So that I won't digress too far on that, but we need to move into our.
• 49:32
  New segment called.
• 49:35
  We would be remiss.
• 49:38
  So I don't want to cover this one, but it's here.
• 49:42
  So we would
• 49:44
  much like Brad doesn't want to cover Corvettes.
• 49:46
  You get stuck with Tesla's now that's your thing.
• 49:50
  And I'm fine with that.
• 49:51
  It's just the latest gimmick that they're doing.
• 49:55
  You know, some people think it's quite clever.
• 49:58
  There's those that would say it's genius.
• 50:01
  I have a different definition for something that's genius.
• 50:05
  Being able to say open butthole for my electric charger door to pop open to me
• 50:14
  as a fully formed adult is not genius.
• 50:18
  For a 12 year old, yes, I could see this being quite hysterical.
• 50:24
  Thank you for bringing this to us.
• 50:27
  And you know, some people might think, Oh, this is just a joke.
• 50:30
  It came out in April, April fools.
• 50:32
  No, I fully believe this is no joke because I have ridden in
• 50:37
  a Tesla with the fart sounds turned on for the turn signals.
• 50:43
  So instead of click, click, click.
• 50:46
  So this is completely on par.
• 50:50
  with something musk would do.
• 50:52
  So I fully believe that you can say open butthole.
• 50:55
  Oh, but it gets better.
• 50:57
  Because if you watch the video that accompanies this particular episode,
• 51:01
  a gentleman goes through and reviews this particular voice command feature.
• 51:05
  There are variants to it.
• 51:06
  If you say open butthole, it opens the charge port.
• 51:09
  If you say close butthole, it closes the charge port.
• 51:13
  If you say open butthole, My butthole, it will open the trunk.
• 51:17
  Did you know that?
• 51:20
  You also want to know why this isn't genius?
• 51:23
  If we're going to anthropomorphize a vehicle, its butthole would
• 51:29
  not be on the side of it.
• 51:33
  Where energy is going into.
• 51:34
  Thank
• 51:34
  you.
• 51:35
  That's, that's my, my, that was going to be my point.
• 51:38
  It shouldn't be open butthole.
• 51:39
  It should be put it in your mouth.
• 51:44
  Oh
• 51:44
  yeah, because that
• 51:44
  makes it better.
• 51:46
  I mean, the mouth also isn't on the side.
• 51:49
  If you were going to like in the rear end of the car.
• 51:52
  The mouth is where fuel and energy goes in.
• 51:54
  I don't know.
• 51:55
  I mean, personally, I think
• 51:56
  this is just foreplay and dirty talk between Elon and Grimes and
• 52:01
  they just kind of translate it into.
• 52:03
  You know, Tesla production, somebody, he probably was, you know, getting
• 52:07
  down with, with grimes and, uh, he butt dialed somebody and, uh, somebody
• 52:14
  at work, you heard him say, Oh yeah, open your butthole, open your butthole.
• 52:18
  And they're like, okay, I guess we'll implement that into the.
• 52:23
  Yes, Mr.
• 52:24
  Musk.
• 52:24
  Yes, Mr.
• 52:25
  Musk.
• 52:25
  Right away, Mr.
• 52:26
  Musk.
• 52:26
  We'll take care of that.
• 52:29
  I mean, clearly it sells.
• 52:31
  People are into it.
• 52:32
  I don't know.
• 52:34
  Hot take.
• 52:34
  It's dumb.
• 52:35
  Speaking of dumb, let's talk about the new door handles on the Tesla.
• 52:39
  Oh, that's not gonna break.
• 52:41
  Right?
• 52:42
  The video, you kind of get a sneak peek here of the new Tesla Roadster.
• 52:45
  We heard about this on the drag racing episode with Bobby Parks.
• 52:48
  He's really excited about this car.
• 52:50
  Effing useless.
• 52:52
  I love that.
• 52:52
  I love that.
• 52:53
  The Tesla roaster is a coop.
• 52:56
  Yeah, right on.
• 52:58
  All counts.
• 52:59
  But this new door handle, you know, the current Teslas, the door
• 53:02
  handle kind of pops out at you.
• 53:03
  It's like electromechanical, and then you grab it, you know, all this kind of thing.
• 53:06
  This new one is swipe, and the best part of it is you get the glimpse of the new
• 53:10
  quote unquote Roadster or coop rather.
• 53:13
  And you get to see this guy trying a new door handle and he must swipe it like.
• 53:17
  four or five times and it doesn't react and I'm like, what is this?
• 53:21
  Would be the most infuriating thing on the planet for me.
• 53:24
  If this is how I have to now open my door.
• 53:26
  Apparently he was swiping up and you should have swiped down.
• 53:30
  I mean, I thought it was left and
• 53:32
  right.
• 53:33
  That's different, but it could be like,
• 53:35
  instead of swipe, they should call it foreplay.
• 53:38
  And he just didn't know how to, how to get the car to do what he wanted it to do.
• 53:42
  Oh my God.
• 53:44
  He should have swiped, right?
• 53:46
  Oh man.
• 53:47
  I, you know, I get, I get that that's where technology and innovation is taking
• 53:52
  us, but it's just like the more things get so technically complex like that.
• 53:57
  It's like there's simplicity in simple things that will
• 54:00
  always work like a door handle.
• 54:03
  Like a button on a, on a phone or, or, or on something, not some touch tone
• 54:09
  thing, but then the screen breaks and then you can't turn your AC on or off
• 54:12
  or something in your, your car, all these infotainment systems, you know,
• 54:15
  a dial, a button it's mechanical.
• 54:17
  Yeah, you can break it off if you're an idiot, but for the most
• 54:20
  part, these things last decades.
• 54:24
  I feel a
• 54:24
  rant coming.
• 54:25
  I mean, if you've ever used one of those Samsung TVs, and I'm sure
• 54:29
  there's other brands that do this with the touch front where there's
• 54:32
  no buttons, I have one of these.
• 54:34
  I've had the luxury of owning it for many years.
• 54:36
  I refuse to touch it anymore because it's infuriating to
• 54:40
  hit the volume 9, 000 times.
• 54:42
  Let me just go get the remote.
• 54:43
  So hopefully my key fob for Tesla will allow me to open the door
• 54:47
  without touching the stupid thing, because if it's anything like the
• 54:50
  Samsung TVs, it'll drive you nuts.
• 54:52
  That's all I'm saying.
• 54:53
  And how about how's it going to handle rain when it's pouring down rain and
• 54:56
  there's water flowing down the side or ice it ices on a winter morning and
• 55:00
  you're you're chiseling the ice off of it or pour pouring warm water to melt
• 55:04
  it because I can't open my door because
• 55:07
  you're wearing a glove so I can't sense that you're opening the door
• 55:10
  you got to get the new you got to get those new gloves with the the touch pads
• 55:14
  that you can use on your touch screens
• 55:16
  or you just don't buy how does
• 55:17
  that work when it's wet But I'll just
• 55:19
  leave
• 55:19
  that
• 55:20
  there.
• 55:20
  Let's just leave that.
• 55:20
  I don't know.
• 55:22
  I mean, I guess I, you know, maybe you, I mean, why don't you
• 55:25
  just make an app on your phone?
• 55:27
  Click the button and it opens.
• 55:29
  Swipe your phone.
• 55:31
  How do you get in when your phone's dead?
• 55:33
  You say open butthole and then a charging wire comes out and you can
• 55:37
  plug your phone in enough juice to
• 55:42
  Open my butthole.
• 55:43
  No, my butthole.
• 55:44
  No, no, no, no, my butthole.
• 55:47
  Can you
• 55:47
  imagine you're standing at the charging station?
• 55:52
  Somebody doesn't know what's going on.
• 55:55
  Oh,
• 55:56
  I'm thinking about the scenario where you go golfing with your boss and then you're
• 56:00
  going back to the cars after your, your, your round 18 and then you walk up to your
• 56:05
  car nonchalantly with your boss parked right next to and his, uh, S600 Mercedes,
• 56:10
  because that's what he's going to drive.
• 56:12
  And you just walk up and say casually, Tesla, open butthole.
• 56:16
  What is your boss going to think?
• 56:20
  He's going to say, do you have any gray poop on?
• 56:23
  He's
• 56:27
  He's going to say, uh, okay, you're going to, this is your last day.
• 56:32
  Goodbye.
• 56:33
  You know, chances are he's a 12 year old boy on the inside too.
• 56:37
  So he'd probably like it.
• 56:38
  I don't know.
• 56:40
  Meanwhile on planet Tesla.
• 56:42
  In other Tesla news, very unfortunate.
• 56:45
  There was a recent accident, uh, last weekend, actually not too far from
• 56:51
  my personal stomping grounds where a Tesla crashed into some trees.
• 56:57
  That crash caused an explosion, fire, et cetera, the car engulfed in flames.
• 57:04
  Varying reports saying the fire burned for four hours before it was put out versus,
• 57:10
  I don't know, it was put out immediately and the fire department just there
• 57:13
  for four hours, quenching, re ignition of the batteries, blah, blah, blah.
• 57:17
  Regardless of whether it was minutes or four hours, uh, That thing
• 57:22
  definitely burned long enough that there was nothing practically left.
• 57:27
  There was no interior, there was no roof, there was no hood,
• 57:30
  there were no body panels.
• 57:31
  I mean, granted, they might have ripped the doors off and everything
• 57:33
  and pushed them aside and weren't seen in the picture, but it was charred.
• 57:38
  The mystery of this right now, this happened in a neighborhood, this
• 57:42
  happened on a neighborhood street, leaving essentially a dead end, a cul
• 57:47
  de sac, an S shaped street, not even probably too long, as it was negotiating
• 57:54
  the first of the curve, the car lost control, ended up in this patch of trees,
• 57:58
  directly in front of people's houses.
• 58:00
  So obviously people heard the commotion or whatnot and called the
• 58:04
  fire department and called the police.
• 58:05
  The mystery of this is There were two people, uh, involved in this.
• 58:09
  Obviously, unfortunately, they did not survive.
• 58:13
  There was a passenger in the front passenger seat, and there
• 58:16
  was a person in the back seat.
• 58:19
  The authorities are very adamant in saying that there
• 58:22
  was nobody in the driver's seat.
• 58:25
  So, does that mean that this Tesla was put on autopilot, somehow, I don't know
• 58:32
  how because I don't know enough about their autopilot system and engaging it,
• 58:36
  somehow got up to a quote, high speed, okay, and it must have been a high enough
• 58:41
  speed to careen off the road and then explode into trees, because I would
• 58:45
  hope that the neighborhood speed of 20 miles an hour, if you hit a tree, you
• 58:50
  wouldn't burst into flames, because every fricking accident would be Chernobyl.
• 58:55
  How did that happen?
• 58:57
  You know, the initial report, you know, the authorities contacting Tesla, etc.
• 59:01
  Elon is being very, you know, he's saying that no, the data that we
• 59:06
  pulled, that autopilot was not engaged, this, that, and the other.
• 59:09
  I mean, you know, how can that be possible if there was no
• 59:11
  body found in the driver's seat?
• 59:15
  You know, how did this happen?
• 59:17
  And these weren't 20 something year old folks.
• 59:19
  These were Older gentlemen, 59, 69, you know, so, you know, if they were 20
• 59:24
  year olds, you could, you could argue, Oh yeah, he was in the driver's seat.
• 59:27
  He's showing off.
• 59:28
  He jumped into the back seat.
• 59:29
  Oh, look, my car drives itself.
• 59:31
  I have a hard time believing, you know, a 59 or 69 year
• 59:35
  old's going to pull that stunt.
• 59:36
  I could believe that there are people.
• 59:38
  Unfortunately, silly enough to be like, Oh, look at my car.
• 59:41
  It can drive itself.
• 59:41
  I'm not going to sit in the driver's seat.
• 59:43
  I don't know why you'd do that, because you could still prove my car
• 59:46
  drives itself and sit in the fricking driver's seat, like a sane, rational
• 59:50
  person in case something goes wrong.
• 59:52
  I don't know.
• 59:53
  Maybe there was someone in the driver's seat.
• 59:56
  Maybe they left the driver's seat after the accident, somehow trying to get out
• 59:59
  from the back of the car for some reason.
• 1:00:02
  With the fire and all that, I mean, I don't know, it's very strange.
• 1:00:07
  It'll be interesting to see when the, the official black box and all that
• 1:00:11
  stuff, you know, other third parties get to see the data to confirm or, or not
• 1:00:16
  confirm whether autopilot was on or not.
• 1:00:19
  I mean, this is a very bizarre, tragic accident that didn't need to happen.
• 1:00:23
  Nobody's going to comment on this story.
• 1:00:25
  I mean, I don't, I don't, I, there's not much more to say on this.
• 1:00:30
  I'm sure more things will develop out of it.
• 1:00:33
  It's, it's very bizarre, very unfortunate in advertising in such a way that makes
• 1:00:37
  it sound like it's fully autonomous.
• 1:00:39
  And it, again, people, it, there is no such thing right
• 1:00:43
  now as a fully autonomous.
• 1:00:45
  Personal vehicle out there.
• 1:00:47
  Okay.
• 1:00:48
  None of the manufacturers have them.
• 1:00:50
  They, they are driver assists.
• 1:00:52
  And it's not just Tesla, Cadillac and Volvo.
• 1:00:55
  I mean, all of these companies are using this not deceiving marketing, but I
• 1:01:00
  think, you know what I'm trying to say?
• 1:01:01
  Well,
• 1:01:01
  they're all, they all misleading
• 1:01:03
  marketing.
• 1:01:03
  They all claim that they have, you know, the driver assist and all that,
• 1:01:06
  but I really think Tesla has been the most negligent in the way that
• 1:01:10
  they advertise it, where they very much have always made it sound like
• 1:01:14
  it's this fully autonomous thing.
• 1:01:17
  No, it's not guys.
• 1:01:18
  The other, the other people, and maybe it's their learnings from Tesla,
• 1:01:22
  I don't think quite go that far.
• 1:01:25
  They make it a little bit more clear that it's, You know, level
• 1:01:28
  whatever, and it's just driver's aids and, and that's what they are.
• 1:01:31
  You're still supposed to be in control of the vehicle.
• 1:01:33
  You're not supposed to be reclined back and sleeping.
• 1:01:37
  You should still be paying attention at any rate.
• 1:01:40
  Please do not just blindly let your car that doesn't know what
• 1:01:43
  it's doing drive down the road because these people unfortunately,
• 1:01:47
  you know, lost their own lives.
• 1:01:49
  This was a neighborhood granted.
• 1:01:51
  It was, I think, pretty late at night, but what if it wasn't?
• 1:01:53
  And there were children out or, you know, a family coming home in their minivan
• 1:01:57
  and, you know, you crash into somebody else, like, don't do stupid stuff,
• 1:02:01
  people, public service announcement
• 1:02:03
  that leads into my next public service announcement.
• 1:02:06
  This is going to be kind of a, if anybody's seen family guy, you know,
• 1:02:09
  you don't really grind my gears.
• 1:02:11
  This is going to be one of those things.
• 1:02:13
  So I, I saw something on the news the other day.
• 1:02:16
  Uh, and I had to get up and get the actual article, but there's
• 1:02:20
  a thing called zoom zombies that are out there roaming the roads.
• 1:02:24
  Uh, and apparently this is something that's real and true.
• 1:02:28
  Basically the, the, the moral of the story is people are working from home
• 1:02:32
  more now they're, they're telecommuting, which means they have a lot of meetings
• 1:02:35
  and those meetings are all on zoom or various, you know, tele, teleconference
• 1:02:39
  systems, but apparently because they have to quote unquote focus harder.
• 1:02:45
  When they're on a zoom or teleconferencing call, if they're, if they go out
• 1:02:52
  immediately after, they shouldn't go out immediately after because they're
• 1:02:55
  too distracted to actually drive.
• 1:02:58
  And then they're causing accidents and they're going out on the road
• 1:03:00
  because they're not focused enough.
• 1:03:03
  Yes.
• 1:03:03
  Eric's case.
• 1:03:04
  And Tanya's face, this is completely absurd.
• 1:03:09
  So here's my thing
• 1:03:10
  flag on the play
• 1:03:13
  comes up
• 1:03:13
  with this crap.
• 1:03:15
  I don't know.
• 1:03:16
  It's it was on NBC for the, you know, that I, that I saw it as a tri DC, they,
• 1:03:24
  I believe that's where I saw it as either NBC four or Fox or something like that,
• 1:03:27
  but basically my thing is, okay, yes.
• 1:03:32
  Distracted driving is a thing.
• 1:03:34
  But people just don't know how to effing drive anyway.
• 1:03:39
  I think
• 1:03:39
  that, I think that people who have been home for so long and
• 1:03:43
  maybe haven't driven in a while.
• 1:03:44
  Oh my God.
• 1:03:45
  It's so absurd.
• 1:03:47
  The amount of lunacy I see.
• 1:03:49
  Yes.
• 1:03:50
  You can tell,
• 1:03:51
  you can tell that people are kind of like out of practice because
• 1:03:54
  they're not used to doing it anymore or having the situational awareness.
• 1:03:58
  We talk about that a lot, you know, in racing that they used to have in the past.
• 1:04:01
  I don't know if they had a lot to begin with.
• 1:04:03
  That's a pretty marginal.
• 1:04:05
  Terrible drivers before they are complete lunatics.
• 1:04:09
  Now, I
• 1:04:09
  thought, I thought you were going to say these zoom zombies where people
• 1:04:13
  doing zoom calls now in their cars while they're going to like somewhere else.
• 1:04:18
  The funny thing is I've seen that too, but that's not what the story was about.
• 1:04:22
  It was about just having a call.
• 1:04:24
  Leaving the call and then getting in your car and drive.
• 1:04:26
  I will, I will say
• 1:04:27
  this, the few times that I've been out like with normal traffic since
• 1:04:33
  COVID hit, you know, in the last year, the speeds on the roads have
• 1:04:38
  gone up because once traffic kind of dissipated, everybody was driving.
• 1:04:42
  Like, you know, you're doing, let's just say you're doing the speed
• 1:04:44
  limit 65, maybe 70 on your highway.
• 1:04:47
  You know, a lot of the highways, you know, out of the greater
• 1:04:49
  metropolitan area here, the speed limits are higher you're doing 70.
• 1:04:53
  You're getting past like you're parked.
• 1:04:55
  I mean, there's people doing 90, a hundred.
• 1:04:57
  I'm like, where are you going?
• 1:04:59
  There's nowhere to go.
• 1:05:00
  Everything's closed.
• 1:05:01
  Is it just because you need, you have cabin fever and you need to get it off
• 1:05:04
  of your, you know, out of your system.
• 1:05:06
  I just don't get, go to the track for that.
• 1:05:08
  Please go to the drag strip, whatever,
• 1:05:10
  even more than that.
• 1:05:11
  Like, I don't think like people just can't drive.
• 1:05:14
  I think majority of the people out there.
• 1:05:16
  Just do not know how to drive.
• 1:05:17
  And it's because of the driving requirements and these municipalities
• 1:05:21
  and jurisdictions and everything.
• 1:05:22
  They basically, if you can fog up a mirror, it's one of our, uh, one
• 1:05:25
  of our members favorite sayings.
• 1:05:27
  If you can fog up a mirror, you can drive.
• 1:05:29
  They're handing out driver's license, like they're candy.
• 1:05:32
  When you go to the DMV, you know, I took the driver's test, Eric.
• 1:05:35
  I mean, all of us that when it was a rite of passage, when we turned 16, you
• 1:05:39
  know, you, you go for the driver's test.
• 1:05:42
  It was in a parking lot here in Maryland.
• 1:05:44
  You mean you didn't know street driving or anything you basically,
• 1:05:48
  if you could do one, two or three things, yeah, you get a license.
• 1:05:51
  That's great.
• 1:05:51
  That does not mean you know how to drive.
• 1:05:54
  No, no, no, it doesn't.
• 1:05:56
  I mean, and I guess everybody needs to approach it differently because
• 1:06:00
  they're every state does it differently.
• 1:06:01
  There's different driving tests.
• 1:06:02
  Now us America as a whole compared to European way of doing drivers test.
• 1:06:07
  I mean, they get drivers licenses way later.
• 1:06:09
  There's all these courses a billion hours.
• 1:06:11
  You know, it's it's.
• 1:06:12
  very strict and very, very difficult to get a license, or
• 1:06:15
  at least it used to be here.
• 1:06:17
  You know, the joke, you know, when we were coming up, it was like, man, you could get
• 1:06:20
  your license out of a Cracker Jack box.
• 1:06:21
  It wasn't that hard to get.
• 1:06:23
  Now, you know, the trend is there's less and less, you know, young drivers.
• 1:06:27
  They they're waiting longer to drive.
• 1:06:29
  They have less interest in driving.
• 1:06:30
  That's like a whole nother thing, but you're right.
• 1:06:33
  I think the system, the education system has kind of failed.
• 1:06:37
  When it comes to driving now, I'm not saying all of us need to go out
• 1:06:39
  and, you know, do HPD or autocross or take some of the schools.
• 1:06:43
  Now, there's some streaks classes.
• 1:06:46
  Exactly.
• 1:06:46
  Exactly.
• 1:06:47
  Tire rack sponsors that they're great.
• 1:06:49
  I'm, I'm a certified street survival coach.
• 1:06:51
  It's a great program.
• 1:06:52
  If you haven't looked into it before, you know, it does count
• 1:06:55
  towards like advanced driving credits, you know, things like that.
• 1:06:57
  So it's, you're not necessarily going to the track, but there's a lot of things
• 1:07:01
  to learn there, but accident avoidance, situational awareness, car control, you
• 1:07:05
  know, all these different kinds of things.
• 1:07:06
  So if you have the extra time and you have the ability to, you know,
• 1:07:10
  carve out a Saturday or Sunday to go do that, I highly recommend it.
• 1:07:14
  I personally think that driving is a privilege.
• 1:07:16
  It's not a right.
• 1:07:18
  Now that may rub people the wrong way because you need to be able
• 1:07:21
  to get to work and stuff like that and public transportation
• 1:07:23
  isn't what it should be here.
• 1:07:25
  And okay, if we're going to make driving right, then I don't think you should
• 1:07:28
  be able to monetize the driver schools.
• 1:07:32
  I think it should be for free.
• 1:07:34
  And I think it should be more robust.
• 1:07:36
  And I think that yes, you're right.
• 1:07:38
  I think street survival should be a mandatory part of the driver
• 1:07:42
  education before you get your license.
• 1:07:45
  I can't agree.
• 1:07:46
  I can't agree more.
• 1:07:46
  I mean, if anything needs an overhaul, it's definitely the way we do
• 1:07:51
  driver's education for people getting their licenses for the first time.
• 1:07:55
  That's for sure.
• 1:07:56
  So speaking of craziness on the highway, Brad,
• 1:07:59
  right back in our backyard here, there was some more lunacy going
• 1:08:04
  on, uh, right over in college park, uh, college park area on four 95
• 1:08:09
  near university of Maryland for anybody.
• 1:08:12
  These very well could be Maryland students.
• 1:08:14
  I mean, you never know.
• 1:08:15
  Now they do this a lot out in California.
• 1:08:18
  I mean, you see it all the time, but basically they shut down the highway.
• 1:08:21
  To do burnouts and doughnuts and all kinds of idiocy, you know, that was
• 1:08:26
  reserved for cars and coffee, but I guess there wasn't a big enough audience.
• 1:08:30
  So they're doing it on the highways now and it's completely absurd.
• 1:08:33
  There's a video of it.
• 1:08:34
  From what I understand, the one or two of the people have already been charged with
• 1:08:39
  reckless driving and various other things.
• 1:08:41
  The police know who you are.
• 1:08:43
  Moral of the story.
• 1:08:44
  Just don't be an idiot.
• 1:08:46
  Please do stupid things.
• 1:08:48
  Win super prizes.
• 1:08:50
  I mean, first of all, so I hadn't heard that it happened and then when I saw
• 1:08:54
  this, I went from perfectly calm to so enraged because the blatant stupidity
• 1:09:03
  and recklessness of this is just mind boggling because not only, you
• 1:09:08
  know, are they stopping the beltway?
• 1:09:10
  To do freaking doughnuts, like a tool.
• 1:09:14
  They were doing 90 miles an hour, supposedly down
• 1:09:18
  powder mill down route to 12.
• 1:09:21
  So they came down route to 12, the speed limit is not 90 miles an hour there.
• 1:09:25
  No, I think
• 1:09:26
  I was just on two 12 and I think it's like 40, 40.
• 1:09:30
  Yeah.
• 1:09:30
  I was going to say 40 at best
• 1:09:32
  if it's yeah.
• 1:09:33
  45, definitely.
• 1:09:34
  Probably not, but 35, 40.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah, probably depending where you are on it.
• 1:09:39
  So they probably, they came down off.
• 1:09:41
  212 onto the beltway then.
• 1:09:43
  And then they, they stopped traffic to do freaking donuts.
• 1:09:46
  I would not only melt this idiot's driver's license, but I would, I would
• 1:09:50
  have him standing there, pressing the crusher button and crush that car.
• 1:09:55
  Well, I got it.
• 1:09:56
  I got so many questions.
• 1:09:57
  Like, how does one block the beltway for one to do this without
• 1:10:01
  other people with them?
• 1:10:03
  Well, the
• 1:10:03
  thing is, so I guess you create a roadblock because we already know people
• 1:10:07
  are zoom zombies and they're not going to.
• 1:10:08
  See you.
• 1:10:09
  So you're just going to like lemmings plow into these people.
• 1:10:12
  And then to do this, it's, it's absolutely asinine.
• 1:10:15
  But the other thing is, do they not realize, and I have to say this
• 1:10:19
  again, do they not realize there is closed circuit cameras on the
• 1:10:24
  beltways in the DC metropolitan area.
• 1:10:27
  They are always watching the cars.
• 1:10:30
  They know who you are.
• 1:10:31
  As Brad said, they will see your license.
• 1:10:33
  You think you're getting away with it?
• 1:10:35
  They've already got you on camera before it even started.
• 1:10:38
  You know, so if you, if you ever watch the morning news,
• 1:10:40
  it's called the traffic cameras.
• 1:10:42
  The best are everywhere.
• 1:10:44
  The best part is these idiots posted on Instagram and their, their TikTok
• 1:10:48
  and their, their various socials, you know, to get recognition.
• 1:10:51
  What pisses me off even more is it's only an 1, 800 fine.
• 1:10:58
  Are you freaking kidding me?
• 1:11:00
  That should be jail time.
• 1:11:01
  Your car should be
• 1:11:01
  impounded and crushed.
• 1:11:02
  Yeah.
• 1:11:03
  That's, that's bonkers.
• 1:11:05
  18,
• 1:11:05
  000 my
• 1:11:06
  butt.
• 1:11:07
  That's reckless endangerment of like the public.
• 1:11:09
  I mean it's it's insane.
• 1:11:11
  Is it like, I know it's Maryland, it's not Virginia, but it wasn't like
• 1:11:15
  Virginia speeding tickets at some time, something like ridiculous, like.
• 1:11:19
  Don't
• 1:11:19
  bring out the blowtorch and like melt your license
• 1:11:21
  in front of you.
• 1:11:22
  In Virginia, they, you go directly to jail.
• 1:11:24
  You do not pass go, you go to jail.
• 1:11:27
  And you go
• 1:11:28
  to jail for speeding.
• 1:11:29
  You go, if you're 50 over or 80 miles, over 80 miles an hour,
• 1:11:33
  it's an immediate go to jail.
• 1:11:35
  Here's the thing.
• 1:11:35
  I can't say this enough.
• 1:11:37
  I know people don't believe me.
• 1:11:39
  They're like, Oh, it's so expensive!
• 1:11:40
  Blah, blah, blah!
• 1:11:42
  Go to the track.
• 1:11:43
  Okay.
• 1:11:44
  How
• 1:11:44
  many track days do you get for 1, 800?
• 1:11:47
  That's not even my point.
• 1:11:48
  That's not even my point.
• 1:11:49
  My point is within a weekend, I guarantee you, you will have an epiphany.
• 1:11:54
  You will realize you are not Schumacher and it will all get out of your system.
• 1:11:59
  After going to the track for so many years, I just drive differently.
• 1:12:02
  I don't have the need anymore.
• 1:12:04
  Just get it out of your system somewhere safe in a controlled
• 1:12:07
  environment and go have fun.
• 1:12:08
  It will cost you less in the long run.
• 1:12:11
  So I'll go with yes and no on that.
• 1:12:13
  I'll say yes for people that are, that tend to be the people
• 1:12:17
  that just speed all the time.
• 1:12:19
  Like they constantly just want to be speeding and, and, and that kind of thing.
• 1:12:23
  Like go, go do this in a controlled environment and you'll learn
• 1:12:28
  very quickly that you don't know what the hell you're doing.
• 1:12:30
  and that you need to respect the speed a whole lot more and shit
• 1:12:33
  happens, can happen very very fast and it will happen very fast when
• 1:12:37
  you're doing things inappropriately.
• 1:12:39
  So the no is I think someone like this asshat, to be quite blunt,
• 1:12:43
  would be the person that gets his butt thrown out at the track.
• 1:12:47
  because they're endangering every other person out there being that a hole
• 1:12:52
  that's not listening to the instructor who thinks they know better and they're
• 1:12:55
  just a freaking like suicide mission going around and then they get ejected.
• 1:12:59
  That's probably this type of person.
• 1:13:01
  And this goes back to my previous point with the zoom zombies.
• 1:13:04
  Why do these people still have licenses?
• 1:13:07
  I don't know.
• 1:13:07
  I don't know.
• 1:13:07
  Why was it not taken away is immediately canceled.
• 1:13:11
  Done.
• 1:13:12
  You're done.
• 1:13:12
  You, you have no more license.
• 1:13:13
  You can, why do
• 1:13:14
  we let,
• 1:13:14
  here's a bus pass,
• 1:13:16
  people that drive drunk and you get pulled over or whatever, you know, they get to
• 1:13:21
  go back out and, you know, kill somebody.
• 1:13:23
  I don't know.
• 1:13:23
  Exactly.
• 1:13:24
  That, that shouldn't, yeah.
• 1:13:26
  None of that.
• 1:13:27
  It's, it's
• 1:13:28
  all above our pay grades.
• 1:13:29
  That's, that's, that's.
• 1:13:30
  That's just it.
• 1:13:30
  Right.
• 1:13:31
  So, you know, let's switch to some lighter news.
• 1:13:34
  How about that?
• 1:13:34
  So we wouldn't even want to be
• 1:13:35
  in
• 1:13:35
  a
• 1:13:35
  story.
• 1:13:36
  Oh, I wish it was, it's sort of like a Florida man.
• 1:13:39
  So it involves the Southwest of the United States though.
• 1:13:43
  So keeping with our lost and found theme from earlier Ford lost a
• 1:13:49
  turbine powered semi truck in 1964.
• 1:13:52
  So more affectionately referred to as Big Red, the 600 horsepower turbine
• 1:13:58
  powered semi debuted at the same auto show as the original Mustang
• 1:14:04
  in 1964 and was subsequently lost.
• 1:14:08
  And has been searched for for now, you know, 50, 60 years and it was
• 1:14:12
  found, by the way, very recently.
• 1:14:14
  And the question that comes to mind is how does 1 lose what is known as a
• 1:14:19
  double or, you know, you've seen them on the road, the UPS trucks with the 2
• 1:14:23
  containers behind the truck, a double coming in at a whopping 96 feet long.
• 1:14:29
  This is like losing an ocean liner or losing a building.
• 1:14:34
  Okay.
• 1:14:34
  It's bright fire engine red all the way through very distinct vehicle,
• 1:14:40
  uh, even for a semi, because it was a car shaped kind of nose.
• 1:14:44
  There was only, it said Ford turbine on the front.
• 1:14:46
  I mean, I don't know how you lose basically a hundred foot long vehicle.
• 1:14:52
  I mean, what must've happened is they put it in storage.
• 1:14:55
  The dude who put it in storage.
• 1:14:57
  Passed away, moved on with life, they burnt the Rolodex and
• 1:15:02
  didn't have his phone number.
• 1:15:04
  And nobody knew, it was only one dude, one dude in charge of Big Red.
• 1:15:09
  And when that person left or, you know, whatever, nobody knew where he was.
• 1:15:14
  His name was Milton and he also had a red swing line stapler.
• 1:15:18
  That's, that's all I know.
• 1:15:20
  I mean, that's the only thing that makes sense.
• 1:15:22
  Oh, then he's, he's in the basement.
• 1:15:24
  My paycheck, my paycheck, my stapler.
• 1:15:27
  Outside of that, I discovered something new.
• 1:15:29
  You know, I mentioned ugly car episode.
• 1:15:31
  You know, again, if you haven't listened to that one, check it out.
• 1:15:34
  There's also a B sides on Patreon full length B side episode.
• 1:15:38
  As a matter of fact, I have another car to add to the ugliest cars list.
• 1:15:42
  Something you've probably never heard of.
• 1:15:44
  It's a 1973 Moe's Safari car, suck that in, do a Google search or check
• 1:15:53
  the follow on article to this episode to get a glimpse of it yourself.
• 1:15:57
  Are the body panels leather?
• 1:16:00
  There is so much wrong with this car.
• 1:16:01
  Like that's,
• 1:16:02
  that's not metal that saw, or is that metal?
• 1:16:05
  It looks like a
• 1:16:06
  couch.
• 1:16:07
  So first of all, it's built on a truck chassis for one because it was designed
• 1:16:11
  to go into Africa for big game hunting.
• 1:16:14
  So problem number one right there.
• 1:16:16
  Number two, it does look like something out of the desert for sure.
• 1:16:21
  It has that very military look to it.
• 1:16:24
  I think my seven year old could design something better than this.
• 1:16:28
  I'm
• 1:16:29
  right.
• 1:16:30
  It's definitely wrapped in like vinyl.
• 1:16:32
  It's wrapped in Naugahyde.
• 1:16:33
  So it's fake leather.
• 1:16:35
  There's a lot of really cool features to this.
• 1:16:37
  No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 1:16:40
  There are some cool features here.
• 1:16:42
  There are some cool features.
• 1:16:43
  Okay.
• 1:16:43
  First of all, electromechanical convertible top.
• 1:16:46
  It's kind of cool ahead of its time.
• 1:16:47
  1973.
• 1:16:49
  It has three front seats, like a McLaren F1.
• 1:16:52
  Kind of awesome.
• 1:16:53
  It has a fold away back area for like laying down and doing
• 1:16:59
  the snipering of the big game.
• 1:17:00
  So can you, does it move, does it fold down automatically if
• 1:17:04
  you say open the buttholes?
• 1:17:07
  No, but it has other amenities because back then it was the
• 1:17:10
  only thing you could talk to.
• 1:17:12
  In the Mo's safari car was the AM FM CB radio.
• 1:17:17
  Remember Peter Klein talked about that on our music and
• 1:17:19
  cars episode earlier this month.
• 1:17:22
  So yeah, it's got a lot of like international harvester stuff on it.
• 1:17:26
  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 1:17:27
  You forgot about the best part.
• 1:17:29
  What's that?
• 1:17:29
  The side draft exhaust?
• 1:17:31
  I love the hood ornament.
• 1:17:33
  Yeah, yeah, that whole grill is amazing.
• 1:17:36
  That hood ornament definitely looks like something out of Indiana Jones
• 1:17:40
  and the, uh, the Ark of the Covenant.
• 1:17:42
  It is definitely very militaristic and diplomatic looking.
• 1:17:45
  I mean, there's, there's so much wrong and so much right
• 1:17:48
  with this car at the same time.
• 1:17:50
  Yeah, you gotta check it out, but I will say this.
• 1:17:52
  It was on bring a trailer.
• 1:17:54
  We posted a link to it and the bid got up to a whopping 90, 000, right?
• 1:18:01
  So one of,
• 1:18:02
  I'm looking at like a closeup of this butthole, it's fuel port, you know, we've
• 1:18:07
  got the Naga hide here and then it's like, Metal strapping runs down like
• 1:18:12
  this piece of metal strapping is riveted.
• 1:18:15
  Wow.
• 1:18:16
  Home Depot.
• 1:18:17
  I love the fact that it's got sliding doors like a minivan.
• 1:18:22
  Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  It's all the things, dude.
• 1:18:23
  So sliding doors so you can lay down and shoot out of it.
• 1:18:26
  Like I said, three seats, bucket seats.
• 1:18:28
  By the way, they're kind of, it has a total, so you
• 1:18:30
  can, you can shoot game, you can hunt game out of it.
• 1:18:33
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:18:33
  Without it leaving your seat.
• 1:18:35
  So
• 1:18:35
  apparently three of these.
• 1:18:37
  Concept vehicles were built, and then the company went bankrupt, and
• 1:18:41
  that was pretty much the end of that.
• 1:18:43
  I can't imagine why.
• 1:18:44
  Cost too much Nalgahide.
• 1:18:46
  Yes.
• 1:18:47
  Much like Another company that only built three cars and went bankrupt doing it.
• 1:18:53
  A lesser known supercar manufacturer by the name of Isdera was a ex
• 1:19:00
  Mercedes engineer who went off into the Alps of Switzerland and decided
• 1:19:05
  to start his own car company.
• 1:19:07
  He built three cars.
• 1:19:09
  And one of the three, the more popular and more recognizable one is the Ator I
• 1:19:16
  one 12, but the Gen two car, the Imperator 1 0 8, I was recently up for auction.
• 1:19:24
  Probably not too many is Dara fans out there outside of Tanya, who I know is
• 1:19:28
  a fan and knows the brand, but, uh.
• 1:19:30
  Yeah, I thought it was kind of cool to see that pop up recently.
• 1:19:33
  It's just not a car you hear of, but it has been around
• 1:19:35
  for a very, very long time.
• 1:19:36
  So look at these, uh, three of three cars out there in the wild.
• 1:19:40
  This car is actually really, really cool looking.
• 1:19:43
  I'm a big fan and I love those like three 45 rear tires or whatever.
• 1:19:48
  Oh, wait, I got to the interior.
• 1:19:50
  I take it back before you move into another story, Eric, you skipped
• 1:19:54
  a story.
• 1:19:54
  Oh, I know I'm getting back to it to round out our ugly cars.
• 1:19:59
  Not because the one Oh eight I is not a pretty car, right?
• 1:20:02
  Let's just.
• 1:20:03
  The 112 was a much better looking car, but I recently came across
• 1:20:07
  an advertisement, you know, soliciting me to come visit CarMax.
• 1:20:11
  And I don't know how I got on this list, but it was the CarMax unicorn
• 1:20:16
  blog telling me that I needed to come check out this quick hit manual
• 1:20:21
  transmission 2010 Chevrolet HHR SS low miles, reasonably priced in white.
• 1:20:31
  Is it still for sale?
• 1:20:32
  There might be somebody out there looking for one.
• 1:20:35
  I'm
• 1:20:35
  still holding out for a brand new one.
• 1:20:40
  I mean, this one only has 28, 000 miles.
• 1:20:42
  28, 000 miles.
• 1:20:44
  You are correct.
• 1:20:45
  How much are they asking for it?
• 1:20:47
  It's a bargain for 16, nine, nine, eight.
• 1:20:50
  You can get a brand
• 1:20:51
  new dot start for that and not be made fun of nearly as much
• 1:20:56
  that this SS would beat it on a quarter mile
• 1:20:59
  once there's so much.
• 1:21:03
  There's so much,
• 1:21:04
  like the fastest lap around the Nurburgring.
• 1:21:07
  This is so much wrong with the
• 1:21:08
  take in
• 1:21:11
  a terrible
• 1:21:12
  club member.
• 1:21:14
  Your car is waiting for you at CarMax
• 1:21:17
  with a red bow on top of it.
• 1:21:19
  Big red bow.
• 1:21:20
  All right.
• 1:21:21
  So I think it's time now for us to switch into our final segment.
• 1:21:25
  We need to go behind the pit wall and talk about motorsports and GTM news.
• 1:21:29
  So first up on the docket, I want to talk about stock car racing, not to be
• 1:21:34
  confused with NASCAR, but in Brazil.
• 1:21:38
  They have a stock car series.
• 1:21:40
  This came across my desk via motorsport.
• 1:21:42
  tv.
• 1:21:43
  And I was really, really intrigued.
• 1:21:46
  Definite clickbait.
• 1:21:46
  I was like, what is this all about?
• 1:21:48
  Because it says in the intro catch legendary drivers, Felipe Masa, Rubens
• 1:21:54
  Barrichello, Ricardo Zonta, Tony Kanan, and more as part of the bumper list of.
• 1:21:59
  Entries in this year's Brazilian stock car series.
• 1:22:03
  I was like, all right, wait a minute.
• 1:22:04
  So I click into this and I'm looking at it and it actually debuts on April
• 1:22:09
  24th and there's going to be a series of these, these races starring a lot of
• 1:22:13
  these folks that, you know, and what it turns out to be is a bunch of Chevy Cruzes
• 1:22:18
  and Toyota Corollas that are apparently still being made in South America.
• 1:22:20
  And it's basically South American touring car series.
• 1:22:24
  It looks pretty cool.
• 1:22:26
  I'm definitely interested now.
• 1:22:27
  They got me with stock car racing.
• 1:22:29
  Not that I'm the biggest NASCAR fan in the world, but I still think it's
• 1:22:32
  pretty cool to see some GR Corollas going up against some Chevy Cruzes
• 1:22:37
  and other vehicles in this series.
• 1:22:39
  So you had me at GR.
• 1:22:40
  Right.
• 1:22:41
  So speaking of GRs.
• 1:22:43
  Yeah.
• 1:22:43
  There's, um, you know, more GR yaris fun, you know, another video out there.
• 1:22:48
  I guess somebody out at Hockenheim ring got a hold of a GR yaris
• 1:22:53
  and, uh, they were racing it on a, on a track day or whatever.
• 1:22:57
  They had a look like an instructor in the car and they're crazy.
• 1:23:01
  I'm just gonna start off with how crazy they are over there to be
• 1:23:04
  doing a fricking track day and they ain't wearing helmets or anything.
• 1:23:07
  I mean, I know.
• 1:23:09
  You know, you shouldn't be crashing and all that.
• 1:23:11
  And those instances are quite low, but shit still happens.
• 1:23:15
  And you want to be wearing head protection, but at any rate,
• 1:23:20
  especially since this guy doesn't even have the windows open.
• 1:23:22
  So if your head flapped to the side, you'd crap now.
• 1:23:25
  No
• 1:23:25
  point buys.
• 1:23:26
  They're passing without point buys.
• 1:23:27
  I mean, they're used
• 1:23:28
  blinkers.
• 1:23:29
  Maybe they were, I don't know.
• 1:23:31
  At any rate, it's a guy in his Yaris and he gets all excited and
• 1:23:35
  It's basically him behind a Supra, a new Supra, um, the whole time.
• 1:23:40
  He doesn't get around him, obviously.
• 1:23:42
  The Supra is still more powerful, but the Supra didn't exactly walk away either.
• 1:23:46
  Now I'm not going to say that like both of these people were driving to the full
• 1:23:50
  potential of the respective vehicles.
• 1:23:53
  Cause the Supra was definitely very squirrely through a lot of corners.
• 1:23:57
  So that person clearly wasn't probably driving.
• 1:24:00
  Full potential of that car, because I imagine it would eventually walk away.
• 1:24:04
  But it's still Yaris fun.
• 1:24:05
  It's always fun to see what's going on with Yarises that we'll never get here.
• 1:24:09
  I also think it's probably the most realistic comparison or showdown
• 1:24:14
  we've seen between the GR Yaris and the Supra compared to the things
• 1:24:17
  we've reported on in the past.
• 1:24:18
  All these, we did it in the rain backwards at night on an eighth mile oval and
• 1:24:22
  the, the Super, you know, had three cylinders removed and all these stupid
• 1:24:26
  tests that they've done against the GRRs.
• 1:24:28
  These were two dudes hooning around on Hockenheim ring and
• 1:24:32
  whether they could drive or not.
• 1:24:34
  I think it really showed some of the potential of the GRRs and I'm with you.
• 1:24:39
  I want to drive one of these.
• 1:24:41
  Chris Harris recently, you know, posted about driving one on his
• 1:24:45
  Instagram feed and he was all about, he's like, this thing's fantastic.
• 1:24:48
  It's a boot.
• 1:24:49
  And I think this, the GRRs really is.
• 1:24:51
  The newest, best hot hatch that's out there.
• 1:24:54
  And I hate to say, being a long time, you know, VW, GTI fan or
• 1:24:58
  whatever, you can keep them.
• 1:25:00
  You know, I want to try this new Toyota.
• 1:25:02
  I will say it's apparently faster than a Miata.
• 1:25:07
  I didn't notice that too.
• 1:25:08
  Cause he did pass the Miata.
• 1:25:10
  Like it was parked.
• 1:25:12
  That was really an MX 30.
• 1:25:13
  Who doesn't pass a Miata like it's parked?
• 1:25:16
  It's
• 1:25:16
  true.
• 1:25:17
  So speaking of other showdowns, Car Magazine is at it again.
• 1:25:21
  911 versus M4.
• 1:25:23
  Whoa.
• 1:25:25
  I mean, this is a battle as old as time, right?
• 1:25:27
  The 911 versus the M3.
• 1:25:29
  The M3 is now the M4, depending on the number of doors that you select.
• 1:25:34
  I hate to say it's pretty ugly.
• 1:25:36
  I mean, it's, it's up there with the HHR and some of these other
• 1:25:39
  cars we talked about, but I mean, do we really care anymore?
• 1:25:43
  I hate to say the 911, I think has transcended into the supercar world,
• 1:25:48
  especially with the turbo and the turbo S and all the other variants of the 911.
• 1:25:52
  So yeah, the one guy that buys a base model, nine 11, maybe he can
• 1:25:56
  compare it to the M four, but.
• 1:25:58
  I think there's other cars that compared to the M4 now.
• 1:26:01
  I mean, I think it's kind of lost some of its luster in a way.
• 1:26:04
  Maybe it's better suited against, Oh, I don't know the Mustang 350, you know,
• 1:26:08
  some of these other cars that would, it would play in that sandbox a little
• 1:26:12
  more than with the nine 11, which is, you know, chomping at the heels of
• 1:26:15
  the Ferraris and the lotuses and all the other cars that are out there,
• 1:26:19
  you know, what do you think, Brad?
• 1:26:21
  I think you're right.
• 1:26:22
  I think the nine 11 is in a completely different ballpark.
• 1:26:25
  I don't think personally anybody actually buys a base nine 11.
• 1:26:29
  I mean, they're, they're always tacking on 20, 000 worth of options and extras
• 1:26:33
  and performance mods and stuff like that.
• 1:26:35
  That's just to get wheels.
• 1:26:36
  Yeah.
• 1:26:37
  So I don't know.
• 1:26:39
  I'm tired of the.
• 1:26:41
  The M four I, I've been over the M four ever since there was an M four.
• 1:26:47
  Give me back an E 46 M three and I'll be perfectly happy.
• 1:26:51
  And this part, yeah, when
• 1:26:52
  BMWs were BMWs.
• 1:26:53
  Yeah.
• 1:26:53
  Can
• 1:26:53
  I just say, it actually doesn't look okay.
• 1:26:56
  Don't say it.
• 1:26:56
  Don't say it.
• 1:26:57
  ' cause it's not true.
• 1:26:58
  I don't think it looks that hideous the more I look at
• 1:27:02
  it, but I will say it looks.
• 1:27:05
  Like it's lifted.
• 1:27:06
  It looks like an SUV when I look at it from the side, I can't get
• 1:27:10
  over that new grill and I
• 1:27:12
  hate what makes the grill worse is the license plate placement because they put
• 1:27:17
  it right in the middle of the grills.
• 1:27:19
  Like, what the hell is the point?
• 1:27:20
  Like, you got something stuck in your teeth, you know, hold on.
• 1:27:23
  Let me get, let me scrape that out
• 1:27:26
  so bad.
• 1:27:27
  So let's get back to some motor sports news.
• 1:27:29
  Brad, let's go to your favorite discipline.
• 1:27:31
  Uh, everybody rejoice because F1 is back.
• 1:27:34
  Everybody but Eric, I should say.
• 1:27:36
  Uh, if it's not a rally, he doesn't care.
• 1:27:39
  F1 is back a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:27:41
  Fernando Alonso made his debut or his redebut coming back to F1 after a short
• 1:27:47
  stint in the world endurance racing WEC.
• 1:27:52
  He also had attempted some IndyCar, but he decided to come back to F1, his home.
• 1:27:58
  He drives for Alpine and it was his first race and his first race with Alpine and it
• 1:28:05
  basically just like every single race he had with McLaren, uh, and it ended with a
• 1:28:10
  DNF because he had an issue with the car.
• 1:28:13
  But if you really pay attention to what happened, it wasn't because
• 1:28:17
  of anything the car did or anything he did or anything like that.
• 1:28:21
  It was because of a sandwich.
• 1:28:24
  Excuse me, what?
• 1:28:26
  Yes, someone's Subway Wrapper, or Jersey Mike's, uh, one of the mechanics
• 1:28:31
  I guess was eating Jersey Mike's, no I don't think that's actually what
• 1:28:34
  happened, but apparently a sandwich wrapper got stuck in one of the brake
• 1:28:38
  ducts and then he had brake failure.
• 1:28:39
  Failure and brake issues and stuff and couldn't drive the car and had to retire
• 1:28:43
  the car Because the plastic baggy ziploc wouldn't have melted under the
• 1:28:47
  extreme heat of the anti gravity brakes
• 1:28:50
  apparently subway five dollar foot long subwrappers are extremely robust And
• 1:28:56
  can withstand nuclear temperatures.
• 1:28:59
  Maybe it's the foil paper from Hardee's, right?
• 1:29:02
  Remember, it's like foil backed paper to keep it warm.
• 1:29:05
  Yes, it was a checkers burger wrapper.
• 1:29:08
  That's terrible.
• 1:29:09
  Is there anything else going on in Formula 1?
• 1:29:11
  There's the whole Bodas and Russell running into each other.
• 1:29:16
  The conspiracy theory is that they did it on purpose.
• 1:29:19
  So that Lewis Hamilton would get unlapped, you know, during the red flag.
• 1:29:23
  I don't know how that actually works because one, they could not have
• 1:29:26
  anticipated an actual red flag to, I mean, they're all competitors.
• 1:29:31
  Botis hates Lewis, uh, Hamilton.
• 1:29:34
  So I don't, I don't see how that could have happened, but.
• 1:29:37
  You know, whatever they, they collided, you know, both of them ended their races.
• 1:29:42
  I forget who won.
• 1:29:43
  I think Max Verstappen won the race, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:29:46
  Nobody cares.
• 1:29:46
  Let's move on.
• 1:29:47
  A
• 1:29:48
  hundred percent.
• 1:29:49
  So you remember a while back, we talked about the Mach E 1400.
• 1:29:55
  that?
• 1:29:56
  Yes.
• 1:29:57
  So Ford put out that monster super drift car equivalent to 1400 horsepower.
• 1:30:03
  It's a Ford performance factory only vehicle.
• 1:30:05
  They've got some factory drivers, you know, doing all these videos and whatnot.
• 1:30:09
  So to give you a taste, quote unquote, of what the experience is like in the Mach E
• 1:30:15
  1400, they have partnered with hot ones.
• 1:30:19
  To create the maki hot sauce.
• 1:30:21
  And so we posted the video of this as Ford factory driver and the
• 1:30:25
  host of hot ones, sit down together and kind of go back and forth.
• 1:30:29
  It's, it's an interesting kind of fun little two minute video
• 1:30:31
  showcasing the maki and this hot sauce, which probably tastes like
• 1:30:36
  liquid fire, as far as I can tell.
• 1:30:38
  I mean, they're near tears in the video as they're eating these chicken wings
• 1:30:41
  and they keep pouring the sauce on there.
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  And it's, it's pretty brutal looking.
• 1:30:46
  I don't know, get yourself some maki 1400 hot sauce.
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  That's all I'm going to say.
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  Next up Forza Motorsports.
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  We talked about that last month with Tom.
• 1:30:55
  We keep hinting at the fact that Forza 8 is on the horizon.
• 1:30:59
  No pun intended,
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  but we've been hearing that Forza 8, now more officially known as Forza
• 1:31:07
  Motorsport, just Forza Motorsport period and versus Forza Horizon, they've been
• 1:31:11
  hinting for the last two years or so that it's supposed to be coming out.
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  Has
• 1:31:14
  never been officially given a release date.
• 1:31:17
  All that has been said by Turn 10 is that they're making one,
• 1:31:20
  but there's zero release date.
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  It's all there's nothing
• 1:31:24
  at my point.
• 1:31:25
  Exactly, Tanya.
• 1:31:26
  And so now you can sign up to beta test.
• 1:31:29
  Forza eight, we'll call it that.
• 1:31:32
  And there's still no release date for as far as the article is concerned.
• 1:31:34
  It came from Jalopnik.
• 1:31:35
  It basically says that there's no scheduled release date, even for 2021,
• 1:31:40
  which means Forza eight pushes into 22.
• 1:31:43
  So if you're looking for.
• 1:31:45
  Something new to play.
• 1:31:46
  I highly recommend European truck racing championship that is available
• 1:31:50
  for free right now on Xbox live.
• 1:31:53
  And by the way, you don't need an Xbox live subscription
• 1:31:56
  anymore for free to play games.
• 1:31:57
  So have at it, check it out.
• 1:31:59
  Plenty of good stuff out there on the marketplace.
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  Paid for and sponsored by Microneski.
• 1:32:06
  In some sad news, titled things that aren't going to happen.
• 1:32:10
  And we really hope they were.
• 1:32:11
  Remember Oak Ridge, Tennessee.
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  New track being built.
• 1:32:14
  It's going to be the newest track east of the Mississippi.
• 1:32:17
  Yeah.
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  All the permits fell through.
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  Not going to happen.
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  Big surprise.
• 1:32:22
  Yeah.
• 1:32:24
  Fortunately, another new track close to home.
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  Not going to happen.
• 1:32:29
  Thank you to everyone that petitioned the municipalities,
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  you know, wrote in all that stuff.
• 1:32:34
  All the support from the different HPD organizations, be it, you know,
• 1:32:38
  chin and max speed and all the people that we talked to that were pushing
• 1:32:42
  to have Oak Ridge built and be the first ones there, just disappointed
• 1:32:46
  to hear that it's not going to happen.
• 1:32:47
  However, the face of drag racing is going to change.
• 1:32:50
  And I think there was some foreshadowing earlier this month
• 1:32:53
  when we talked to Bobby Parks.
• 1:32:54
  What do you think, Brad?
• 1:32:55
  So apparently the EV evolution revolution.
• 1:32:59
  whatever you call it, is making its way to drag racing.
• 1:33:03
  And they're going to do a quarter mile NHRA drag strip dedicated to EV cars.
• 1:33:09
  That'll be the quietest drag strip.
• 1:33:11
  Can you imagine just a bunch of whining, uh, but Bobby talked about this on
• 1:33:16
  the episode, The Black Nasty, where he mentioned, you know, EV was coming.
• 1:33:20
  He wants to get in front.
• 1:33:21
  You know, he said there's a good chance that if it catches on, the NHRA would
• 1:33:26
  get behind it and create a class for EVs.
• 1:33:28
  Now, can they compete against, you know, 9, 000 horsepower top thrill
• 1:33:32
  dragsters, or even the 1300, you know, horsepower, no prep class that he runs in.
• 1:33:37
  I will see, I want to see it happen.
• 1:33:40
  I'd be very curious to see what kind of times they put down, but
• 1:33:43
  to Tanya's point, it's going to be a very anticlimactic sound.
• 1:33:47
  I mean, there's all the, you know.
• 1:33:49
  Amateur drag racing of Tesla, ludicrous mode versus Ferraris and all that.
• 1:33:55
  And generally at winning.
• 1:33:56
  So, you know, I'm sure if someone dedicates, I want to put all
• 1:34:01
  the power down at once, I get one pull and the juice is gone.
• 1:34:06
  How much could you get out of it?
• 1:34:08
  That's the question.
• 1:34:09
  And I think that has yet to be figured out.
• 1:34:11
  So
• 1:34:11
  yeah.
• 1:34:11
  How many, how many polls are you getting out of a ludicrous mode?
• 1:34:14
  Tesla?
• 1:34:15
  I think the interesting part about embracing this is much like there were
• 1:34:19
  pioneers in drag racing back in the fifties and sixties, you know, you
• 1:34:23
  know, garlots, all these guys, you know, the first, you know, the Coleman
• 1:34:26
  brothers, the first ones to put the motor basically behind the driver.
• 1:34:29
  I, that's some, that's something I read.
• 1:34:31
  You can, guys can correct me if I'm wrong on that one out there and listener land.
• 1:34:35
  But, you know, there's been a lot of.
• 1:34:37
  Interesting advancements that have come by the way of drag racing.
• 1:34:40
  And I'm kind of wondering if we're standing on this precipice now going,
• 1:34:43
  you know, that scrawny little kid over there that's running that EV he's going
• 1:34:48
  to be the next, you know, garlots or whoever that's going to be in the NHRA
• 1:34:52
  hall of fame, you know, 30, 40, 50 years from now being the guy that pioneered
• 1:34:56
  the EV dragster or whatever it might be.
• 1:34:58
  So it'd be really cool to see where it goes.
• 1:35:00
  I think history in the making, right?
• 1:35:02
  By the way, Elon Musk, if you listen to our podcast, which I hope you do,
• 1:35:06
  because we have a lot of Tesla talk on here, please send Bobby parks,
• 1:35:10
  the black nasty, a Tesla Roadster.
• 1:35:13
  So he can run it for you.
• 1:35:15
  A hundred percent.
• 1:35:16
  It'll be interesting with.
• 1:35:17
  You know, there's the Formula E and, you know, if the drag racing goes electric
• 1:35:23
  and different racing venues go electric, what will change in, because you've,
• 1:35:28
  you've said this before about a lot of different innovation trickles down
• 1:35:31
  from the developments of, you know, Formula One and other racing bodies.
• 1:35:35
  It trickles down into the cars we drive every day.
• 1:35:38
  And, you know, as You know, this new territory of electric vehicles is coming.
• 1:35:43
  What advances will we hopefully get in terms of safety?
• 1:35:46
  Because going back to the horrible accident or incident in Texas here, the
• 1:35:52
  two people dying in that fire, the car crashes car, you know, sometimes those
• 1:35:57
  guys crash on the drag strip, they lose control, go sideways to go into a barrier.
• 1:36:01
  If they can't put the fire out.
• 1:36:02
  For hours.
• 1:36:04
  How are they extricating that driver?
• 1:36:06
  You know, what advances can we do?
• 1:36:08
  Um, you know, is there ways to quick disconnect the batteries and in a way
• 1:36:13
  that, I don't know, isolates the reaction?
• 1:36:17
  Or are there other things that can be done to make those kind of incidents safer?
• 1:36:20
  Will we get that technology trickling down?
• 1:36:22
  It's gonna be like demolition man, when the impact occurs.
• 1:36:26
  Flame is detected.
• 1:36:26
  Foam is ejected.
• 1:36:27
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:36:28
  . And that's the end of that.
• 1:36:29
  Right?
• 1:36:30
  The other thing I'm joking, but that could be not far from reality.
• 1:36:34
  I think the other thing we're going to see is, you know, as Bobby said,
• 1:36:37
  drag racing, probably one of the safest motor sport compared to a lot
• 1:36:40
  of other ones, especially door to door racing, you know, things like that.
• 1:36:43
  And there are, there are tragic accidents in drag racing.
• 1:36:46
  I think there are four.
• 1:36:46
  Few and far between compared to some of the other motor sports that are out there.
• 1:36:50
  But when they're big, they're big, right?
• 1:36:51
  And you see some crazy stuff at the drag strip.
• 1:36:53
  However, I think some of those things are a direct result of the fact that
• 1:36:58
  those vehicles are rear wheel drive, they're high horsepower, they're
• 1:37:00
  two wheel drive more than anything, and they have that propensity to
• 1:37:05
  torque and lift a car, you know, wheelie bars, all this kind of stuff.
• 1:37:07
  Lots to get super technical on it.
• 1:37:09
  If you are interested, listen to Bobby's episode.
• 1:37:11
  He goes into detail and all that.
• 1:37:13
  I think with the.
• 1:37:14
  You're going to see a lot more all wheel drive to get the maximum power,
• 1:37:19
  the maximum grip, and that's going to change the nature of drag racing too,
• 1:37:24
  because you're going to have more control over the vehicle with all wheel drive.
• 1:37:28
  I think you're going to have a less of.
• 1:37:30
  Of a propensity to lift the car off the ground, which creates, you know,
• 1:37:34
  unstableness also air catching the underneath of the car to flip it over.
• 1:37:37
  All those things that we see with current dragsters, you know, today.
• 1:37:41
  So I think it's going to change the sport altogether because the overall engineering
• 1:37:45
  of the EV is completely different, you know, than what we're used to today.
• 1:37:49
  It doesn't have the same drive train or drive train at all.
• 1:37:52
  For that matter, it's, it's just very, very different.
• 1:37:55
  But to Tanya's point, yeah, they need to redirect their safety
• 1:38:00
  focus, you know, for some of these other more traditional incidents
• 1:38:05
  to new scenarios that can come up.
• 1:38:08
  I mean, batteries overheating and catching fire is a real thing.
• 1:38:12
  It happens.
• 1:38:13
  It happens a lot.
• 1:38:14
  I mean, it happens with cell phones, it's, it's a new danger that they
• 1:38:19
  need to plan for before they can start coming up with a new class or
• 1:38:24
  a new series in this and the other.
• 1:38:25
  Actually, they should probably reach out to the regulators who host the, I
• 1:38:31
  mean, they should reach out to the FIA.
• 1:38:34
  Regarding the formula E series and find out what they do, how they mitigate the
• 1:38:39
  potential risks for batteries exploding or catching fire and things like that.
• 1:38:44
  Absolutely.
• 1:38:45
  I couldn't agree with that more.
• 1:38:47
  So let's transition out to some just local news here as we kind of round out.
• 1:38:51
  the episode.
• 1:38:52
  So upcoming events for GTM.
• 1:38:55
  If anybody's interested, we've got some off road adventure coming up in May.
• 1:38:59
  A lot of folks have already returned to the track.
• 1:39:01
  A lot of the S.
• 1:39:02
  C.
• 1:39:02
  C.
• 1:39:02
  A.
• 1:39:03
  Majors have already kicked off Mars races.
• 1:39:05
  You know, start this weekend, the first round of that.
• 1:39:07
  That's the local club racing series here in the DMV.
• 1:39:10
  We also have a trip Planned for Tail The Dragon.
• 1:39:13
  We've got some, what we call away games coming up.
• 1:39:15
  You know where we're gonna be going to Nelson Ledges and Carolina Motor
• 1:39:18
  Sports Park and a lot of other places that we wouldn't normally go to in
• 1:39:21
  a track season to try to kind of get away from the normal and do something
• 1:39:24
  different, especially since a lot of us have been home for a while and been
• 1:39:28
  yearning to get back to the track.
• 1:39:30
  Our Summer Bash event we have scheduled, it's gonna be July 30th
• 1:39:33
  through August 2nd at Summit Point.
• 1:39:35
  It's gonna be four days over three tracks.
• 1:39:38
  That is our annual anniversary party for GTM.
• 1:39:41
  We, you know, we pick an event, we go to, we partner with somebody, we throw
• 1:39:44
  a big party, you know, commemorating our anniversary and it's a lot of fun.
• 1:39:48
  So we encourage you guys to come out and check it out.
• 1:39:50
  If you've never been to the track before, tons of ride alongs.
• 1:39:53
  Especially with, you know, a lot of the folks in our group are coaches.
• 1:39:56
  So they're able to take you out and experience the track for yourself.
• 1:39:59
  There's no cost to come and spectate.
• 1:40:00
  There's no cost to come and hang out.
• 1:40:01
  So check that out July 30th through August 2nd at Summit Point
• 1:40:05
  Motorsports Park in West Virginia.
• 1:40:07
  On top of that, we are going to start our VRL.
• 1:40:11
  Series 15 in May, as Tom talked about on the last episode of the drive through, but
• 1:40:17
  we're also adding a special, we'll call it adjacent series, which is going to be
• 1:40:21
  European truck racing to follow along with the open wheel series that we're running.
• 1:40:27
  So we're going to be running two series at the same time.
• 1:40:29
  They're optional.
• 1:40:30
  If you're interested in that, check it out, the information
• 1:40:32
  on garage riot, or check out the information on gtmotorsports.
• 1:40:35
  org under services, virtual racing league to get more information on that.
• 1:40:40
  You know, give us a shout out if you want to participate or be involved in that.
• 1:40:43
  It's going to be a lot of fun.
• 1:40:44
  And you know, there's, it's always a good time.
• 1:40:45
  Bragging rights, prizes, awards night, all that fun stuff at the end of the year.
• 1:40:49
  Meanwhile, our track schedule is still huge because it is to be still really
• 1:40:54
  basically the beginning of the season.
• 1:40:56
  There's So I can't sit here and prattle off all the events that
• 1:40:59
  are happening in April and May.
• 1:41:01
  All I can tell you is there's probably 200 of them and you
• 1:41:05
  should really go to HPD junkie.
• 1:41:06
  com and check it out, filter by your geographical area or closest area
• 1:41:12
  track to you to see what's going on.
• 1:41:14
  And I will say.
• 1:41:15
  Dave Peters has done an excellent job putting all the information in there.
• 1:41:18
  A lot of new logos popping up on HPD junkie this year, you
• 1:41:22
  know, max speed, just track it.
• 1:41:24
  It's been around for a while, but we're starting to see
• 1:41:26
  more and more events for them.
• 1:41:27
  Obviously we just did an episode with auto interests.
• 1:41:30
  There's a lot more logos showing up on those calendars as outside
• 1:41:33
  of the normal, you know, PCAs and BMW clubs and things like that.
• 1:41:36
  And they're on there as well.
• 1:41:37
  So you have the full.
• 1:41:38
  schedule of all the tracks throughout the entire year now, including Canada.
• 1:41:43
  So there's a lot of stuff to go through.
• 1:41:45
  So if you want to go to most port, go check it out.
• 1:41:47
  You know, it's, it's going to be on HPD junkie.
• 1:41:49
  com.
• 1:41:50
  And in case you've been missing out, check out the other podcast
• 1:41:53
  episodes that have aired this month.
• 1:41:55
  You can learn more about the third largest HP provider auto interest.
• 1:41:59
  You can also tune into the chat with Bobby Parks about no prep drag
• 1:42:02
  racing in the black nasty episode.
• 1:42:05
  Get your groove on with cruising at the speed of sound, where talk is about
• 1:42:09
  the intersection between cars and music with Pete Kline and Vet Motorsports
• 1:42:13
  and Donovan Lara and Garage Riot.
• 1:42:15
  And last but not least, the Patreon special re release of the Pit Stop episode
• 1:42:20
  with Ryan Staub of Lockton Motorsports.
• 1:42:23
  That's right.
• 1:42:24
  And we do have one new Patreon for the month of April.
• 1:42:27
  Big shout out to John Caffeci, who has now returned home from
• 1:42:33
  his tour of duty in Kuwait.
• 1:42:35
  He's been gone for about a year now.
• 1:42:37
  He's back home.
• 1:42:38
  He's back at the track.
• 1:42:39
  He's, you know, back turning wrenches once again.
• 1:42:42
  And he's
• 1:42:42
  back looking for an HHR SS.
• 1:42:44
  Oh yeah.
• 1:42:45
  Better believe it at CarMax, 16, 998 on sale today.
• 1:42:50
  So we're really happy to have him on board as a Patreon supporter of GTM.
• 1:42:54
  And, you know, we can't do this without the love, support, and, you know,
• 1:42:58
  friendship and everything that goes along with all the folks here at GTM.
• 1:43:02
  So if you're looking to help out, you know, maybe you can't help out
• 1:43:05
  with your talents or your time.
• 1:43:07
  As our member Gordon always says, if I can't be present, Send dead
• 1:43:11
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• 1:43:13
  He wasn't a president, but you know, you get it.
• 1:43:15
  So patreon.
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• 1:43:20
  can support GTM and keep, you know, things like the drive through going.
• 1:43:24
  And speaking of those that want to help out, we'd like to thank
• 1:43:27
  our special guest tonight.
• 1:43:29
  Wait a minute.
• 1:43:30
  We don't have a special guest tonight.
• 1:43:31
  That means we've got a slot available for anybody that's listening that wants to be
• 1:43:35
  on one of the next drive thru episodes.
• 1:43:37
  And also, thanks again, as always, to our co host Tanya.
• 1:43:42
  No problem.
• 1:43:43
  She's keeping us honest, if nothing else, right?
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  She's so modest.
• 1:43:48
  She runs this entire show.
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  We wouldn't have it without her.
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• 1:43:59
  fans that support GTN, because without you, none of this would be possible.
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• 1:44:30
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