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Chris Sale’s $ extension, PCA calls out LA fans, Soto v. Shohei, Darryl Strawberry shades Pete Alonso? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: next couple hours, So let's get to the headliner today.
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Speaker 4: Charge about.
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Speaker 1: More money for AJ's former teammate Chris Sale. He said
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Speaker 1: people were asking him about potential retirement scratch that add
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Speaker 1: another year to his contract one year, twenty seven million
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Speaker 1: dollars is the extension that also includes a club option
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Speaker 1: for the Braves to activate for thirty million dollars in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. I passing originally breaking the story. The
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Speaker 1: thirty six year old would have been a free agent
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Speaker 1: who knows he's getting up there in years, but he's
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Speaker 1: still looking like prime Chris Sale. Chad Bishop with this
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Speaker 1: tweet that he posted from Sale. We have a great manager,
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Speaker 1: great front office, core group of players that are going
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Speaker 1: to be here for a while, good young talent coming up,
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Speaker 1: excited for that.
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Speaker 2: I want to be here for that.
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Speaker 1: And it gets you guys off my back asking me
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Speaker 1: if I'm going to retire at the end of this year.
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Speaker 1: So we're up to over two hundred and sixty million
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Speaker 1: guaranteed dollars over the course of Chris Sale's career. And
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Speaker 1: he looks back and he remembers his early days playing
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Speaker 1: catch with you, Aja, I.
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Speaker 5: Mean, where's my cut sailor?
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Speaker 6: Can?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm don't have to call him and be like, dude,
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Speaker 3: I need like a one percent of that at least
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Speaker 3: like something right because I was there for his debut,
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Speaker 3: I was there when he was a closer, and now
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Speaker 3: here he is two hundred and fifty million plus in
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Speaker 3: the bank, living in his you know, big mansion down
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Speaker 3: in Florida. You know, I remember his days back when
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Speaker 3: he was in Lakeland at FGCU hoping to get drafted,
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Speaker 3: and he grinded through the minor leagues for all of about,
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Speaker 3: i don't know, three weeks before he was in the
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Speaker 3: big league. So you know, he really needs to not
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Speaker 3: forget about the small people. And uh, you know, like me, sailor.
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Speaker 3: So I'm really happy for Chris Man. Great guy, great person,
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Speaker 3: just a fun guy to be around. He's been through
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Speaker 3: some ups and down, nine time All Star, he's got
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Speaker 3: that cy young He's on a Hall of Fame track.
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Speaker 3: I'm just happy for Chris Saale and his family because
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Speaker 3: they are good people.
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Speaker 4: I love it because the first time he ever came
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Speaker 4: on our show, we asked him, you think you're a
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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer and he's like, ooh, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: And now he's on his second extension with the Braves.
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Speaker 4: He signed an extension with the with the Red Sox earlier.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if he signed something of the White Sox.
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Speaker 4: But to have three extensions in your career, to me,
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Speaker 4: I think it shows it shows obviously teams are like
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Speaker 4: WHOA like we see an opportunity to lock a guy up,
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Speaker 4: he's willing to take it. We'll do it, Yes, But
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Speaker 4: to sign an extension, you have to like where you're at,
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Speaker 4: or you have to be committed to where you're at,
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Speaker 4: like he was committed to be in Boston. Did that
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Speaker 4: contract once they signed the extension workout?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 4: Did the first part of it work out? Absolutely? You
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Speaker 4: know they he signed an extension. You know, look kind
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Speaker 4: of odd right when he got to the Braves turned
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Speaker 4: out to be amazing for the Braves, and in his
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Speaker 4: time there, he doesn't sit there and go, Man, I
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Speaker 4: feel like I got screwed signed that extension. You know,
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Speaker 4: I wanted to cy young. No, Like, he just seems
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Speaker 4: because I don't know him any more than my interaction
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Speaker 4: with him on our show in the different times that
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Speaker 4: we've seen him live, Like, he just seems like somebody
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Speaker 4: that's committed to being the best he can for whatever
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Speaker 4: team he's on. And I think this is huge obviously,
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Speaker 4: anybody says when he's getting up there in age, there's
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Speaker 4: plenty of really good Hall of Fame pitchers that are
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Speaker 4: pitching past forty, and he will only be thirty seven
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Speaker 4: when he plays on this extension season, and it's only
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Speaker 4: at twenty seven million, so if he goes out and
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Speaker 4: stays healthy this year, he could have been looking at
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Speaker 4: possibly two years at twenty seven a year. So it's
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Speaker 4: great for the Braves, and I think it's obviously great
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Speaker 4: for sale, or he wouldn't have signed it.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Sea geek Aj. He was hurt a lot with.
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Speaker 1: of someone who is aging gracefully and aging like a
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Speaker 1: fine wine. Insert whatever phrase you want to use. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: I talk to people across the game that say they
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Speaker 1: don't want to sign pictures deep into their career, and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe not any picture, but if it's a
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Speaker 1: number one guy and he.
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Speaker 2: Still got it.
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Speaker 1: Chris Sale is the example of someone who's thirty six
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Speaker 1: years old who's come off the season where, yes, he
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Speaker 1: wasn't one hundred percent healthy the whole year, he gave
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Speaker 1: them about one hundred twenty five innings, but two and
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Speaker 1: a half ERA his production per inning was just as
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Speaker 1: good as the year before. So young year two three
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Speaker 1: eight ERA one hundred and seventy seven and two thirds innings.
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Speaker 1: Are there some injury concerns?
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Speaker 2: Sure? Are there?
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Speaker 1: Injury concerns with just about everyone else that has an
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Speaker 1: arm that throws in Major League Baseball. Yes, I think
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Speaker 1: the point here is that if you've got a stuff
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Speaker 1: like this and you can carry it, then the Braves
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Speaker 1: did the smart thing by bringing it on, giving him
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Speaker 1: these little tack on one year extensions and maximizing value.
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Speaker 2: Right they've got an ace.
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Speaker 1: They've got a guy at the top of the rotation
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Speaker 1: for a team right now that I think is in
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Speaker 1: some depth trouble on the starting rotation front. They have
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Speaker 1: a roster crunch. Ken Rosenthal spoke about this. They have
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Speaker 1: Joey Webz and Bryce Elder who don't have options anymore.
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Speaker 1: So if they pick up someone like Lucas Gildo or
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Speaker 1: Zach Lttel, they'd have to bounce one of those guys
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Speaker 1: off the roster. So Chris Sell is needed more than ever.
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Speaker 2: Right now.
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Speaker 1: They're down Schwellenbach, they're down Hurston Waldrip, and we are
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Speaker 1: not even halfway through spring training.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is perfect for Chris Sale. I mean,
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Speaker 3: if you go Sales, Strider, Lopez, those guys stay healthy,
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Speaker 3: that's a pretty good one two three of Strider, especially
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Speaker 3: if Strider is back to where he was before his
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Speaker 3: arm injury. Listen, I love Chris Sale. So my feelings
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Speaker 3: are well known, but I think the Braves need Chris
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Speaker 3: Sale to be good. And I love they jumped in
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Speaker 3: front of this because it gives him security, gives them
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Speaker 3: security knowing they'll have Chris Sale for at least this
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Speaker 3: year and next year and in twenty twenty eight if
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Speaker 3: he's still pitch him, well, they can pick him up
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Speaker 3: and they already know what that price.
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Speaker 6: Is going to be.
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Speaker 3: So I love this. I love this deal for both parties. Now,
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Speaker 3: just he Chris Spencer and Ronaldo to stay healthy. And
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Speaker 3: that's a pretty good one two three.
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Speaker 4: When you sit there and you look at an older
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Speaker 4: player at the end, what people see is the end
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Speaker 4: of his career. You say, oh, well, you know his
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Speaker 4: strikeouts are going to drop. He's not that type of
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Speaker 4: picture where he has to throw one hundred miles an
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Speaker 4: hour the entire outing. He can still dial it up
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Speaker 4: to ninety seven ninety eight when he needs to. But
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Speaker 4: that's slider to me. That's the part that doesn't seem
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Speaker 4: like it. Ages and hitters just don't see that angle.
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Speaker 4: They don't see the angle and they're not picking it up,
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Speaker 4: and he's still racking up a ton of strikeouts, even
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Speaker 4: in the year last year when he was hurt. It's
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Speaker 4: to me, I think it's it's a no brainer for
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Speaker 4: the Braves to have signed this extension.
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Speaker 1: They also need left handed starting pitching. Aj how important
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Speaker 1: is that everyone else in their stable is right handed?
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Speaker 1: The guys that are hurt and the rest of the
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Speaker 1: current starting staff that's peg to begin the year. So
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Speaker 1: if you take out Schwellenbach and Waldrip, who are both
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Speaker 1: right handers, you've got Strider, Lopez, Grant Holmes, so he
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Speaker 1: has good stuff. See if he stays on the mound,
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Speaker 1: and then Bryce Elder those are all right handed pitchers.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, break it up. And we did a whole thing.
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Speaker 3: Remember the whole thing on how dominant lefties were last year.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Schooble, you start with school and work your
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Speaker 3: way down, but how there was a whole thing about
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Speaker 3: how dominant, how much more dominant left handed pitchers have become.
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Speaker 3: And Chris Hill, when he's right, can be as good
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Speaker 3: as any of them. Maybe not Trek Scooble, just because
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Speaker 3: he's older. Sar So, I love you, but I don't
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Speaker 3: know if you were that good because you're you know,
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Speaker 3: you're just so old at this point in your life,
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Speaker 3: you know, and you're starting to get great hair in
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Speaker 3: the beard. So when I see you all, make sure
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Speaker 3: I tell you this. But he's one of the if
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Speaker 3: he's healthy, he's still a top five pitcher and definitely
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Speaker 3: a top five lefty in baseball.
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Speaker 4: So you guys got to solidify it. AJ, and then Scott,
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Speaker 4: Hall of famer, yes.
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Speaker 5: Or no, Yes, and I'll get invited to Cooperstown.
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Speaker 3: So Apps, he's fifty seven point three war right now,
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Speaker 3: he's got a cy young, he's got a World Series.
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Speaker 3: What else you gotta do? He's he's a Hall of
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Speaker 3: Famer right now. If he plays two more years, three
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Speaker 3: more years, and he gets to seventy. Let's say he
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Speaker 3: gets four wins four war year, that almost puts him
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Speaker 3: at seventy war, he's a first ballot guy.
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Speaker 1: Then Scott, oh, I always love when AJ starts ripping
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Speaker 1: war numbers.
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Speaker 2: It's just fun. It shows how far we've come.
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Speaker 1: No, but that is yeah, but it also does I can.
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Speaker 3: Just get I can just give an analytical answer in
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Speaker 3: that way. People can't say, oh, you're biased toward them. Well,
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Speaker 3: I can look at the numbers and say, listen, he's
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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five and eighty eight right now
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Speaker 3: in his career. His EER for his life is three
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Speaker 3: point zero one. Okay, that's pretty good. He's got over
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Speaker 3: two thousand innings, he's got over what has he got
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Speaker 3: twenty almost twenty six hundred strikeouts? If he stays healthy
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Speaker 3: for two more years, he's gonna get the three thousand strikeouts.
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Speaker 5: This isn't even a conversation. He's in.
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Speaker 3: Okay, he's in. He probably's in right now if he
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Speaker 3: stopped pitching. But he's got two more years. If he's healthy,
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Speaker 3: he's gonna be over three thousand strikeouts. This shouldn't even
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Speaker 3: be a conversation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for the layup question. But what cap would
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Speaker 1: he wear in the Hall of Fame? Maybe a Braves
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Speaker 1: cap if he keeps this up the next couple of years, World.
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Speaker 6: Series with the Red Sox.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he wouldn't go Red Sox so just because we
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Speaker 3: asked him. Remember he didn't pitch well enough long enough
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Speaker 3: there went. He'd still have more years with the White Sox.
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Speaker 3: I think he might go in as a White sock.
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Speaker 3: You guys are gonna laugh for root.
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Speaker 4: In four years, four years of top six Cy Young
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Speaker 4: voting with the White Sox. I think it's a white Sox.
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Speaker 4: I think I think it's a white Sox. Now the
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Speaker 4: Braves win a World Series. The next two years, he
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Speaker 4: gets up there again.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: We have to We'll have to go back to the
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Speaker 4: very first interview and see who asked him if he's
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Speaker 4: a Hall of famer, because I thought then he was
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Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer, and I think there was a debate.
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Speaker 6: I think he's put the debate to bed and astly.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, I asked, right.
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Speaker 2: Do you know why I asked.
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Speaker 3: Because I wanted to ask him, and I wanted his
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Speaker 3: reaction because I knew that he would never say that
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Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Famer. He just would never do it.
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Speaker 3: And he didn't. He gave the perfect answer. I'm not yet,
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Speaker 3: but I need to keep going. And then he goes
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Speaker 3: out and dominates for two more years and boo. I
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Speaker 3: mean if he has this average year, which is five
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Speaker 3: point five war for three more years, I mean that's
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Speaker 3: almost what that's sixteen and a half more war. It
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Speaker 3: puts him almost a seventy five war. There's no way
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Speaker 3: you're keeping him out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he already looks like a lock if he doesn't
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Speaker 1: play this season, but he looks like he has maybe two,
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Speaker 1: if not three years left, right because they did hang
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Speaker 1: a club option around it, And I'm sure if Chris
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Speaker 1: is feeling good, then he'll go out for another season.
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Speaker 2: He's thirty six. Could he pitch at thirty nine? Sure,
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Speaker 2: it's definitely possible.
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Speaker 1: And smart move here by Atlanta because what they do
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Speaker 1: is they've got Sale locked in now. They've got them
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Speaker 1: locked in for next year. If the stuff does fall
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Speaker 1: off or if an injury hits him again, they've got
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Speaker 1: the club option. So it's like, hey, you want another
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Speaker 1: guaranteed year close to thirty million bucks, cool, let's do it.
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Speaker 2: But give us the option to.
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Speaker 1: Keep you for one more season after that and get
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Speaker 1: that benefit of going.
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Speaker 2: Year to year.
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Speaker 1: So Chris Sale, Atlanta brave. He's loving it there, clearly.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what he said.
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Speaker 2: That's what he said.
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Speaker 6: That's what he said.
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Speaker 2: That's what he said. Woo peeko.
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Speaker 1: Armstrong's bringing the smoke this quote. I love Chicago more
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Speaker 1: and more. People are great. They give a shit. They
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Speaker 1: aren't just baseball fans who go to the game like
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Speaker 1: Dodgers fans to take pictures and whatever, they're paying attention.
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Speaker 2: They care. He's from LA.
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Speaker 6: He's feeling good at the plate. He's feeling good at
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Speaker 6: the plate.
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Speaker 4: Good for him, Like we heard a lot from PCA
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Speaker 4: last year in the first half, and then he scuffled.
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Speaker 4: We didn't hear as much. To me, this is just
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Speaker 4: his personality, Like, let his personality shine through. He doesn't
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Speaker 4: need to be a fan of Dodgers fans, like, that's
16:36
Speaker 4: not his team. It's not going to cost him anything
16:38
Speaker 4: in free agency. He didn't say anything bad about the
16:42
Speaker 4: organization or he'll never play there. He's saying how it is.
16:46
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, some people would disagree with
16:49
Speaker 4: him about Cubs fans. Lee ilia as Aj would love
16:53
Speaker 4: to reiterate anytime that he can. You know, I think
16:57
Speaker 4: there's there's an affinity for the way he plays in
17:01
Speaker 4: that city. They love him, they love us the way
17:04
Speaker 4: he runs around the outfield, and I think, you know,
17:08
Speaker 4: he feels that connection.
17:09
Speaker 6: So good for him for saying it.
17:11
Speaker 1: Also important note Pete Crow Armstrong's father is a Cubs fan,
17:18
Speaker 1: and he had two rules for Pete growing up. You
17:20
Speaker 1: do not like the Dodgers. You do not like the Cardinals.
17:24
Speaker 1: And we're gonna flow in some comments as we're chatting.
17:27
Speaker 1: We've already had this become the topic of the day
17:30
Speaker 1: in the live chat. I have read every comment so
17:33
Speaker 1: far today up until the last minute or so, and
17:35
Speaker 1: there's a lot of back and forth. Some fans like, hey,
17:38
Speaker 1: he grew up going to Dodger games, but not being
17:40
Speaker 1: a fan of the Dodgers, so maybe he does have
17:43
Speaker 1: some experience. But I'm like, at the same time, he
17:45
Speaker 1: doesn't like the Dodgers. And there are tens of thousands
17:48
Speaker 1: of fans at games for the Dodgers and the Cubs,
17:52
Speaker 1: and I can add the Yankees.
17:54
Speaker 2: To this list. And here is a separation factor for me, Kratz.
17:59
Speaker 2: What's that Are you in?
18:00
Speaker 1: Who are you around in the front row, in the
18:04
Speaker 1: seats where corporations give them out to a different client
18:08
Speaker 1: every day, or their suits showing up for food, vibes,
18:12
Speaker 1: a good time, the artie moreno style, or are you
18:15
Speaker 1: in sections or near people. I'm not saying there aren't
18:18
Speaker 1: people that are diehards that sit up close, but you
18:20
Speaker 1: could be around people that are spending as much as
18:23
Speaker 1: they can to go to the games. They watch every game,
18:25
Speaker 1: they consume every show on this network, right covering their
18:29
Speaker 1: particular team.
18:30
Speaker 2: A little bit of it is luck of the draw.
18:31
Speaker 2: Where were you going and who are you seeing?
18:33
Speaker 5: Now?
18:34
Speaker 1: Might you see a few more people snapping a selfie
18:37
Speaker 1: or a photo of themselves in Los Angeles?
18:40
Speaker 2: In general?
18:40
Speaker 1: I think just about anyone can be clear about that one.
18:44
Speaker 1: That's more of an LA thing. In general, it's the creator,
18:47
Speaker 1: influencer capital of the United States. I would say second, third, fourth,
18:53
Speaker 1: probably looking at like a New York Miami, that would be.
18:58
Speaker 2: A pretty solid top three to start.
19:00
Speaker 1: So sure, do you think that maybe some people are
19:03
Speaker 1: spending a little extra time taking photos somewhere? I guess
19:06
Speaker 1: has it become a tourist destination out there?
19:09
Speaker 2: Absolutely right?
19:10
Speaker 1: Shoheo Tani could be the best player of all time
19:13
Speaker 1: in baseball history. There are people that come from all
19:16
Speaker 1: over the globe to see him and to take pictures
19:20
Speaker 1: around being at Dodger Stadium. So all of these things
19:23
Speaker 1: can be true. But to call out the dedication of
19:26
Speaker 1: Dodger fans, to me, sounds like someone who wants to
19:30
Speaker 1: spark up a rivalry, and I'm all for that. Go
19:33
Speaker 1: to LA, You're going to get booed for the rest
19:36
Speaker 1: of your life. Out there and back that shit up.
19:39
Speaker 4: All right, two comments because of one. I'm not even
19:42
Speaker 4: sure which comment strolled across the street the screen. But
19:47
Speaker 4: when he gets to Chavez Ravine, it said, can't wait
19:49
Speaker 4: for his first step back. He's not going to get
19:51
Speaker 4: booed that much, because very few fans actually make it
19:54
Speaker 4: to the Dodger games for first for the leadoff hitter
19:57
Speaker 4: of the game. Because I don't just try and all
20:00
Speaker 4: that stuff. But I play with a guy you probably
20:03
Speaker 4: remember him, Scott Dianna Navarro. He played in LA and
20:06
Speaker 4: he played in Chicago. And he said, more celebrities come
20:11
Speaker 4: through the Cubs clubhouse then come through the Dodgers clubhouse.
20:16
Speaker 4: And I thought that was interesting. He said, very sneaky
20:19
Speaker 4: people want to A lot of celebrities come through Chicago
20:22
Speaker 4: and they want to go to Cubs games. He said,
20:25
Speaker 4: a lot of celebrities live in LA. He said, so
20:28
Speaker 4: it's not as much like that, like team interaction with
20:33
Speaker 4: the celebrities, they still have it because now the Dodgers
20:36
Speaker 4: themselves are celebrities, Like they don't need celebrities coming in.
20:40
Speaker 4: But I thought it was interesting that he said that.
20:42
Speaker 4: And so this is good nature, fun, this is this
20:46
Speaker 4: is this is it. If he gets some booze, remember
20:48
Speaker 4: what AJ said, nobody booze.
20:52
Speaker 6: Nobody.
20:55
Speaker 1: Although if anybody on the Cubs said this, they could
21:00
Speaker 1: be the twenty sixth man on the roster, they would
21:03
Speaker 1: probably still get booed. This kind of quote does really.
21:07
Speaker 4: They forget it. They forget it. I promise I wasn't nobody.
21:12
Speaker 4: I got in Joey Vado's face where Cubs were Red's
21:15
Speaker 4: camp today. I got in his face stirring at Bat.
21:19
Speaker 4: I got booed my next step bat, and I think
21:22
Speaker 4: my next step Bat, I got a hit. Nobody even
21:24
Speaker 4: said a word. Nobody boo They forgot, They forget nobody's
21:28
Speaker 4: That's what happens. PCA goes and makes another All Star team.
21:32
Speaker 4: He comes into LA, runs all around center field making
21:35
Speaker 4: diving catches. They're gonna keep remembering them. People are gonna
21:38
Speaker 4: be like, why are we booing this guy? And they'll
21:41
Speaker 4: be like, well, I don't even know everyone else is
21:44
Speaker 4: doing it.
21:45
Speaker 2: He said, we're in our phones too much. Everyone's in
21:49
Speaker 2: their phones too much.
21:50
Speaker 6: He said, we're on our phones. What hu uh?
21:54
Speaker 2: Fly ball? Foull ball.
21:58
Speaker 1: AJ has talked often about how it is fun to
22:02
Speaker 1: be a heel. He's right now running around and grabbing
22:04
Speaker 1: more players for us to chat with at Red's camp.
22:07
Speaker 1: But AJ has always believed in this. He has preached
22:10
Speaker 1: this to current players and Kratz. He has talked about
22:14
Speaker 1: this during his career. There were times when he loved
22:17
Speaker 1: being a heel. And if you don't know what a
22:19
Speaker 1: heel means, you can look it up right now on
22:22
Speaker 1: your favorite search platform.
22:23
Speaker 2: But PCA is gonna have fun with this.
22:28
Speaker 1: It does bring a little attention and a little juice
22:31
Speaker 1: to a random day in spring training where.
22:33
Speaker 2: There's not much else going on, so it's fun.
22:37
Speaker 1: The one thing I think people have to do is
22:39
Speaker 1: just not take it too seriously, you know. I mean,
22:43
Speaker 1: if you want to look up John Rockers quotes from
22:46
Speaker 1: back in the day describing his New York City experience,
22:50
Speaker 1: you can take things personally. On this front, he's saying
22:53
Speaker 1: that they're not as dedicated as Cubs fans.
22:55
Speaker 2: I think that's good, clean fun.
22:57
Speaker 4: But everybody has a different sense of coffee at this
23:00
Speaker 4: point in the year. And the Cubs. Were they a
23:04
Speaker 4: bat short last year, were they a bullpen arms short
23:07
Speaker 4: last year?
23:08
Speaker 6: We'll never know.
23:09
Speaker 4: Is anybody saying they're better than the Dodgers. Now, No,
23:13
Speaker 4: are they closer to the Dodgers than they were last year?
23:17
Speaker 6: Yes?
23:17
Speaker 4: I think so. So there's some confidence he didn't just
23:20
Speaker 4: come up with this on his own. Like you know,
23:22
Speaker 4: these dudes are talking. They're not talking about beating the
23:25
Speaker 4: Pirates and the Reds and the Brewers.
23:29
Speaker 6: They're talking about winning the World Series.
23:31
Speaker 4: And I know that that might be in a lot
23:34
Speaker 4: of clubhouses, but I think there's dudes in there that
23:36
Speaker 4: believe it, and that conversation is happening. And to win
23:39
Speaker 4: the World Series, you got to beat the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1: I see a nice first half from Picrow Armstrong might
24:50
Speaker 1: want to have a little conversation about an extension. I'm
24:52
Speaker 1: not saying that one quote is going to create that,
24:55
Speaker 1: but clearly this guy wants to stay here. He just
24:58
Speaker 1: called out a team and he does not want to
25:01
Speaker 1: be a part of the Dodgers in the future. Now,
25:02
Speaker 1: there are plenty of other teams that he could sign
25:04
Speaker 1: with one day in free agency.
25:06
Speaker 2: No, you think so. You think you.
25:08
Speaker 1: Put something like this out there before free agency and
25:11
Speaker 1: then end up signing with the Dodgers, hears from now,
25:13
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
25:14
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't like and he likes the Cubs.
25:17
Speaker 1: I know he called out the fans, but still, if
25:19
Speaker 1: I'm Pete crow Armstrong, I'm trying to get an extension, and.
25:22
Speaker 2: I think a quote like this does throw a hint
25:24
Speaker 2: out there.
25:24
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he had this premeditated and said,
25:27
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to call out Dodger fans
25:29
Speaker 1: and talk about how much I love Cubs fans and
25:32
Speaker 1: maybe that'll turn into an extension for me. There already
25:35
Speaker 1: have been extension conversations from last year. He might get
25:38
Speaker 1: something done in spring training krats. So I'm just throwing
25:41
Speaker 1: this out there for Cubs brass. If you believe in
25:44
Speaker 1: the player, he clearly believes in you and loves you.
25:47
Speaker 2: He grew up a freaking Cubs fan in LA. Locked
25:50
Speaker 2: that extension up.
25:52
Speaker 6: I hear you, I hear you that extension.
25:53
Speaker 4: I think I think it's tough because he believes he's
25:57
Speaker 4: the first half player there feel for a fearful of
26:00
Speaker 4: the second half player. His defense is worth an extension.
26:05
Speaker 4: His offense in the first half was worth an extension.
26:08
Speaker 4: How do you value somebody like that? You go eight years?
26:12
Speaker 4: Does his defense and speed wear down? Does he even
26:15
Speaker 4: want an extension? Because you know he came from money.
26:19
Speaker 4: He was, you know, higher pick he signed. Like, there's
26:22
Speaker 4: a lot that goes into that extension talk. So I
26:26
Speaker 4: think the Cubs need to do it. I'll be honest.
26:28
Speaker 4: Paid the man as many.
26:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he wants an extension. He might have
26:33
Speaker 1: some money, he doesn't have that kind of money. Plus,
26:35
Speaker 1: the defense isn't going to slump. He's the best center
26:38
Speaker 1: fielder in baseball right now.
26:40
Speaker 2: Defensively it looks like he'll be that for quite some time.
26:44
Speaker 1: So good for PCA throwing a little juice in there
26:47
Speaker 1: for the Cubs Dodgers rivalry this year? What about the
26:50
Speaker 1: Dodgers Mets Rivalryjan Soto coming after show, Hey o Tani,
26:56
Speaker 1: this one was a little more playful, or at least
26:58
Speaker 1: it appeared that way. The quote from him on Otani,
27:02
Speaker 1: he better keep doing what he's doing because I'm coming
27:05
Speaker 1: Sodo talking about Otani. I already know what Kratz is
27:08
Speaker 1: going to say. Good freaking luck, because you don't pitch.
27:11
Speaker 1: So if Otani keeps doing what he's doing, you have
27:14
Speaker 1: almost no chance at an MVP. Not if Otani's putting
27:18
Speaker 1: up numbers. If he just replicates what he did, even
27:20
Speaker 1: last year, and I think he'll pitch more than he
27:22
Speaker 1: did last year. He's auto MVP for the next few
27:26
Speaker 1: years if he puts up right, you know, one fifty
27:30
Speaker 1: ohps plus and he's dhing just about every day, and
27:33
Speaker 1: then he gives you what fifteen plus starts really is
27:38
Speaker 1: all it probably takes to keep racking MVPs and have
27:41
Speaker 1: such a clear distinct advantage over someone. Do you maybe
27:45
Speaker 1: have a chance if you're an all around player, I guess,
27:47
Speaker 1: And I know Soto added the stolen bases to his
27:50
Speaker 1: game last year, but he is not going to be
27:53
Speaker 1: an elite defender, and that will knock a couple points
27:55
Speaker 1: off the old war number in the MVP voting.
28:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he had a higher war than Bryce
28:02
Speaker 4: Harper the year that Juan Soto could could have won
28:06
Speaker 4: the MVP, but Bryce won it that year and a
28:09
Speaker 4: few more homers like if you're just comparing, and I
28:12
Speaker 4: think sometimes like a lazy argument as you compare their
28:15
Speaker 4: hitting and you're like, well, I think Wan probably brings
28:18
Speaker 4: a little bit more to the plate. I wouldn't even
28:21
Speaker 4: sit there and argue with you. I think Wan's ops
28:25
Speaker 4: last year was lower, but I would say Wan's coming
28:29
Speaker 4: into what even baseball pundits, baseball front offices call your prime.
28:35
Speaker 4: I think your prime can stretch way deeper into your career.
28:39
Speaker 4: But Wan's coming into his prime, and let's say prime
28:42
Speaker 4: is going to be his next five years.
28:44
Speaker 6: Wan's going to have to continue to improve.
28:46
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, we don't know much about like Tommy John surgery
28:50
Speaker 4: or internal bracing, which show Hey got. Wan, just like
28:54
Speaker 4: you said at the beginning, does not have a chance
28:57
Speaker 4: to win the MVP. If show Hey stays healthy, show
29:01
Speaker 4: Hey will not have as good as hitting numbers. If
29:04
Speaker 4: he pitches, if he makes twenty five starts in a year,
29:07
Speaker 4: it's just he's there's just gonna be some type of
29:09
Speaker 4: drop off that is not going to allow show Hey
29:12
Speaker 4: to have the ridiculous, ridiculous fifty to fifty seasons like
29:16
Speaker 4: he has. So Swan's gonna have to do. Wan Soto
29:19
Speaker 4: is gonna have to do something historic to beat show
29:23
Speaker 4: Hey out. And until show He's not pitching in a season,
29:27
Speaker 4: I just don't see how anybody else wins it.
29:37
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Speaker 1: We've got some quotes and we want to do a
29:45
Speaker 1: deeper dive on Pete Alonzo exiting the Mets and now
29:49
Speaker 1: making an impact with the Orioles from the jump. I
29:52
Speaker 1: know it's only spring training, but we'll get to all
29:54
Speaker 1: of that. Let's start with Daryl Strawberry. Here's a guy
29:58
Speaker 1: who was met and then eventually left to be a
30:02
Speaker 1: Dodger through free agency after the nineteen ninety season. He
30:07
Speaker 1: was shocked and says Pete will regret leaving the Mets
30:12
Speaker 1: for the Orioles. Here's the quote from Daryl. I was
30:15
Speaker 1: really shocked that Pete would leave New York for Baltimore.
30:18
Speaker 1: Pete could have broken all the records and could have
30:20
Speaker 1: been on top of every offensive category for this organization.
30:24
Speaker 1: And then sometimes when you don't see that and realize
30:26
Speaker 1: how important that is, one day he's going to wake
30:29
Speaker 1: up just like I did and regret you didn't stick
30:33
Speaker 1: where you are at.
30:36
Speaker 2: He said.
30:36
Speaker 1: Also, the biggest mistake I saw was after they lost
30:40
Speaker 1: in Miami. That was the end of the season, when
30:41
Speaker 1: the Mets blew their wild card lead, that Pete opted out.
30:45
Speaker 1: Daryl said, I think if he just waited and said, okay,
30:48
Speaker 1: I'll stay at that, So stay in, don't opt out
30:51
Speaker 1: of your contract and then ask the Mets for four
30:53
Speaker 1: more years something like that. They could have worked it out.
30:56
Speaker 1: He thinks also that both sides could have fought harder
30:59
Speaker 1: in the situation. Now, remember years back, Pete did get
31:03
Speaker 1: an extension offer from the Mets, and while you're chatting,
31:05
Speaker 1: Crats'll pull it up to give you the exact number.
31:07
Speaker 1: It was a nice number, but Pete ended up making
31:09
Speaker 1: more on the free agent market. The Mets in the
31:13
Speaker 1: David Stearns era was not as into Pete. I think
31:16
Speaker 1: that's pretty obvious, and Steve Cohen has spoken recently about
31:20
Speaker 1: how he is paying David Sterns a lot of money
31:23
Speaker 1: to make these types of calls. So it was under
31:26
Speaker 1: the give me the Last GM Billy Eppler era where
31:30
Speaker 1: they threw the.
31:31
Speaker 2: Extension Pete's way.
31:33
Speaker 1: He said no, he did the longer deal, but really
31:37
Speaker 1: a one year deal, the opt out deal. Played this
31:39
Speaker 1: out and then hops over to Baltimore. I don't think
31:42
Speaker 1: it's fair for Darryl to call out Pete during this
31:45
Speaker 1: particular offseason when the Mets weren't in sniffing distance of
31:49
Speaker 1: what Baltimore was throwing his way and valuing him at.
31:54
Speaker 4: The key number here is two times the Mets really
31:58
Speaker 4: weren't that interested in locking up this player in Tee Alonso,
32:03
Speaker 4: who Daryl Strawberry is saying shouldn't have left. Not sure
32:08
Speaker 4: why he left, don't make the same mistake that I made.
32:12
Speaker 6: Dal Strawberry. For kids who don't know, you need to
32:15
Speaker 6: look up his numbers. And when he.
32:17
Speaker 4: Left New York it was a steep drop off. There
32:22
Speaker 4: are other things that went into that. You never know.
32:25
Speaker 4: You know how things are going, but you also never
32:27
Speaker 4: know as a free agent what it's going to be
32:29
Speaker 4: like somewhere else. And I'm sure Daryl left. I don't
32:32
Speaker 4: know the exact reasoning, but I'm sure he left for
32:35
Speaker 4: a big contract. And if you're not loved where you're
32:39
Speaker 4: at where Pete was because they went through the free
32:42
Speaker 4: agency dance twice and they weren't willing to extend him.
32:46
Speaker 4: I think Pete kind of knew going into the off season. Look,
32:50
Speaker 4: they're not they're not that into me, Like, I don't
32:54
Speaker 4: see why they would change their tone. I've had an
32:56
Speaker 4: incredible career. I'm the career leader in home runs here.
33:00
Speaker 4: The fans love me. They just weren't that into them,
33:04
Speaker 4: you know, would they have finally matched the offer. Maybe,
33:08
Speaker 4: but did he want to stay?
33:10
Speaker 6: I don't know.
33:10
Speaker 4: He seems pretty happy every time we've talked to Pete,
33:13
Speaker 4: every time you see something with him, and like the
33:16
Speaker 4: orange really suits him, and I think it's unfair to say, ah,
33:23
Speaker 4: you know what, he should have just stayed. Darryl is
33:26
Speaker 4: part of the group of Mets, that old school, that
33:30
Speaker 4: old crew, that old group that won the World Series.
33:33
Speaker 4: I've never seen more of a staunch group of guys
33:37
Speaker 4: who are like, we love the Mets. You know why,
33:41
Speaker 4: because the Mets have kept him around. They won a
33:43
Speaker 4: World Series, and the Mets have loved those guys, and
33:45
Speaker 4: they love the Mets and Mets fans. It's a reciprocal relationship.
33:49
Speaker 4: It's a give and take relationship. And those guys are
33:53
Speaker 4: true blue Mets fans and they were just ex Mets players.
33:57
Speaker 4: I mean, you can go down the list of all
33:59
Speaker 4: the guys and Daryl's one of them. And you never
34:02
Speaker 4: hear this from front office guys who are staunch Met fans.
34:07
Speaker 4: But these guys are not really front office, but they're
34:10
Speaker 4: not coaches. They're just strong, strong fans of the Mets.
34:15
Speaker 4: And so good for him for saying it. Like he
34:18
Speaker 4: wanted to keep Pete around because he's useful the front office,
34:21
Speaker 4: who's who's delving out the contracts, did not. They feel
34:26
Speaker 4: like Jorge Polanco and other use of their money in Boba,
34:29
Speaker 4: Schett is a more useful use of their money. And
34:34
Speaker 4: we'll see how it works out.
34:37
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three, the contract extension offer from the Mets
34:41
Speaker 1: with seven years, one hundred and fifty three million dollars.
34:46
Speaker 1: If you count the seven year stretch as the prior
34:52
Speaker 1: too seasons for Pete plus the five year deal he
34:54
Speaker 1: just signed with the Orioles, that's seven years, two hundred
34:58
Speaker 1: and five million dollars.
35:00
Speaker 2: It's a big difference.
35:02
Speaker 1: I'd love to know when that was in twenty three, right,
35:06
Speaker 1: I think if he had an opportunity to get the
35:11
Speaker 1: seven to one point fifty three or to get I
35:13
Speaker 1: don't want to put the same number out there because
35:14
Speaker 1: they are very far apart. But my point is in
35:16
Speaker 1: the last two years, from what we know, he didn't
35:18
Speaker 1: get anything close to even four or five years on
35:22
Speaker 1: a deal offer. It was like two maybe three. So
35:27
Speaker 1: they didn't they put him in a place where he
35:29
Speaker 1: had to say no.
35:31
Speaker 5: For sure.
35:32
Speaker 4: And the part and the part where Darryl said, where
35:34
Speaker 4: Daryl Strawberry said, you know, he should have accepted the
35:38
Speaker 4: He should have accepted the or not taken the opt
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Speaker 4: out and then negotiated it. What in the previous offseason
35:45
Speaker 4: would have indicated to Pete. Oh, yeah, they'll definitely give
35:50
Speaker 4: me an extension. They could have given an extension the
35:53
Speaker 4: entire year. They could have given him the five years
35:56
Speaker 4: that he wanted the year before. They could have done that.
35:59
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying it's again it's bad that Stern's
36:03
Speaker 4: doesn't want to go past go go that long. It
36:05
Speaker 4: doesn't want those long term deals. It's just what they want.
36:09
Speaker 4: So you're gonna not be able to retain certain players.
36:12
Speaker 4: And to me, Peede Alonzo was becoming a franchise type
36:17
Speaker 4: of player, not just franchise for when he's there, but
36:19
Speaker 4: franchise forever type of player. And they're willing to move on.
36:24
Speaker 4: Good for Pete for being willing to move on and
36:27
Speaker 4: going away from a place that he was comfortable in.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Orioles value him more. It is what it is.
36:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let me explain one reason why the Orioles
36:43
Speaker 1: really love Pee Alonso.
36:44
Speaker 2: Right now. They feel like they made a mistake.
36:47
Speaker 1: We have many quotes coming out of Orioles camp over
36:50
Speaker 1: the last few days about how they were missing something.
36:54
Speaker 1: They brought up an exciting young core that didn't really
36:58
Speaker 1: have the Pete Alonso and there are a number of
37:01
Speaker 1: quotes from different stories. Ken Rosenthal's story in the Athletic.
37:05
Speaker 1: There's a Baltimore Banner story, so here's Ken's story. To
37:09
Speaker 1: get the most out of their young core, the Oriols
37:11
Speaker 1: had to bring in outside veteran help. Michae Elias was
37:16
Speaker 1: quoted saying, looking back at the last couple of years,
37:19
Speaker 1: I think for our young position player group, it would
37:21
Speaker 1: have been helpful for them to have somebody accomplished from
37:23
Speaker 1: outside the organization who wasn't part of our rebuild, wasn't
37:26
Speaker 1: an Oriols draft pick, wasn't an Oriols development story, come
37:30
Speaker 1: in and just absorb a lot of the attention on
37:32
Speaker 1: the team speak for the team. Jordan Westburg telling the
37:35
Speaker 1: Baltimore Banner, I do think it would be good to
37:36
Speaker 1: have a personality going forward, whatever adjective you want to use, polarizing, loud, boisterous, whatever,
37:41
Speaker 1: but just something different. I think it would be beneficial
37:45
Speaker 1: freeze people to be themselves, and then I'll finish with
37:49
Speaker 1: Tony Manslino, who's now the bench coach for Walt Weiss
37:52
Speaker 1: over in Atlanta, he said, because he was the interim
37:57
Speaker 1: manager for the Orioles after Brandon Hyde was fired. He said,
38:00
Speaker 1: just recently, in the past twenty four hours, we were
38:02
Speaker 1: asking a bunch of players in years two, three, and
38:04
Speaker 1: four to be superstars. And the reality is nobody has
38:06
Speaker 1: a bunch of players in years two, three and four
38:08
Speaker 1: who are superstars. He's not saying you can't be a
38:10
Speaker 1: superstar earlier in your career, but to rack that many
38:12
Speaker 1: players and ask them to lead the team.
38:14
Speaker 2: You always hear this from people.
38:16
Speaker 1: Hey, if you want a total all around team, it
38:19
Speaker 1: can't just be all of one thing. You need to
38:21
Speaker 1: have the blend. And it seemed like they were just
38:24
Speaker 1: flowing with what they tanked to create and that was great,
38:29
Speaker 1: but they didn't add the icing on the cake. That's
38:31
Speaker 1: what they tried to do this past offseason. It seemed
38:33
Speaker 1: like they did that well. One more quote from Mansolino,
38:36
Speaker 1: by the way, he goes being here talking about Atlanta
38:39
Speaker 1: coming out of this situation, I just came from and
38:41
Speaker 1: I don't say this lightly.
38:43
Speaker 2: I feel like.
38:44
Speaker 1: He as in the Braves Alexandropolis, Walt Weiss specifically, kind
38:48
Speaker 1: of rescued me in a lot of ways and got
38:50
Speaker 1: me over into this place and working under him, and
38:52
Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier.
38:53
Speaker 2: Whoa that was?
38:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean eh, Tony Tony said, said it
39:02
Speaker 4: with his chest. I'm gonna go back to the first
39:04
Speaker 4: thing before we hit that part of it, Tony Manzelino
39:07
Speaker 4: talking about it. Michaelias now like he must have gone
39:11
Speaker 4: back and watched some of the old FT's, the old
39:15
Speaker 4: FT episodes that we This is what we've talked about.
39:18
Speaker 4: Was Michaelias the guy to be able to take this
39:21
Speaker 4: team because of theirs very much parallels with the Astros
39:27
Speaker 4: whom Michaelias worked for and the Orioles as they came up,
39:31
Speaker 4: Like is he able to take this team to where
39:34
Speaker 4: the Astros were going? Well, the Astros went out and
39:38
Speaker 4: made some trades for some for some guys that were
39:41
Speaker 4: getting to the end of expiring contracts. They were afraid
39:45
Speaker 4: to go to get that veteran and now might you know, hey,
39:50
Speaker 4: you know what, now we got to do it. So
39:52
Speaker 4: it was tough to do. It was tough. It was
39:54
Speaker 4: tough for Michaelias to do it, or maybe he just
39:57
Speaker 4: didn't think the team was quite ready, or maybe the
39:59
Speaker 4: owners change. There's a lot of things that were going
40:02
Speaker 4: on in there, but I'm glad that they've noticed it
40:04
Speaker 4: now that hey, you know what a veteran leader. Veteran
40:07
Speaker 4: leaders different personalities, and it's not all just the same
40:11
Speaker 4: young guys, because Michaellias saw it as well, Josel Tuve
40:15
Speaker 4: Correa and Bregman and Springer, they were all young guys
40:20
Speaker 4: that came through the organization and we won a World
40:23
Speaker 4: Series with those guys like but they also did it
40:26
Speaker 4: with a few veteran add ons that they had on
40:29
Speaker 4: that team. Charlie Morton started Game seven like they had
40:33
Speaker 4: Brian McCann behind the ditch. I think they have McCann
40:36
Speaker 4: that year or Dan mccannon twenty two or twenty one, anyway,
40:41
Speaker 4: whatever it is, they added on. And so that's what
40:44
Speaker 4: the teams need to do now. The Tony Manzolino quotes
40:49
Speaker 4: that he got that he got saved from out of there,
40:53
Speaker 4: I don't know. Rarely do you hear Rarely do you
40:56
Speaker 4: hear guys talk like this, So there had to be
41:01
Speaker 4: something that he didn't agree with, but if I'm not mistaken,
41:05
Speaker 4: he was the interim manager, and when he became the
41:10
Speaker 4: intern manager, his exact quote was, AH, you know, I
41:15
Speaker 4: don't know that I'm really gonna change anything when the
41:19
Speaker 4: team was struggling. If you really want to be that manager, like,
41:23
Speaker 4: that's your chance, that's your chance to put your stamp,
41:27
Speaker 4: your footprint on trying to change something. And so what
41:33
Speaker 4: all happened, what all went down there, I'm sure we'll
41:35
Speaker 4: hear more about it here in the next few weeks year.
41:39
Speaker 6: While he's a Brace coach.
41:41
Speaker 1: I think it's tough to throw a quote like that
41:43
Speaker 1: out there. And I'll read the quote again for AJ,
41:46
Speaker 1: who's back with us here the rest of the way.
41:48
Speaker 1: Tony Mansolino, interim manager for the Orioles last year, taking
41:53
Speaker 1: over after Brandon Hyde.
41:54
Speaker 2: AJ.
41:55
Speaker 1: He said, being here coming out of this situation that
41:58
Speaker 1: he just came from, and I don't say this lightly.
42:00
Speaker 1: I feel like he kind of rescued me in a
42:01
Speaker 1: lot of ways and got me over into this place
42:03
Speaker 1: and working under him, and I couldn't be happier.
42:05
Speaker 2: That was Tony talking.
42:05
Speaker 1: About Walt Weiss and the Braves rescuing him from the Orioles.
42:10
Speaker 1: To me, when you use that word, and you also
42:13
Speaker 1: said within the quote, I don't say this lightly, that
42:16
Speaker 1: means there was some shit going down and we haven't
42:18
Speaker 1: not really heard about anything to that extent. It looked
42:21
Speaker 1: like a team that were underperformed. To me, this might
42:25
Speaker 1: have a slice of a front office disconnect. And again
42:28
Speaker 1: I'm playing conspiracy theory game where a show that's what
42:31
Speaker 1: we do. I don't think there were like personality issues
42:35
Speaker 1: within the Orioles. I feel like we would have heard
42:37
Speaker 1: about that one of us three, or there would have
42:39
Speaker 1: been something out there.
42:40
Speaker 2: Felt like a.
42:41
Speaker 1: Team that underperformed, that didn't stack their coaching staff with
42:46
Speaker 1: enough pitching depth, and as we've been talking about now
42:48
Speaker 1: for the last several minutes, was relying on all young
42:51
Speaker 1: core players without a Pete Alonso to take away attention
42:55
Speaker 1: and to lead the charge.
42:58
Speaker 5: Yeah.
42:58
Speaker 3: Also, maybe he's a little mad at it and get
43:00
Speaker 3: the job after he took over. I mean it's always that.
43:02
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys talked about that, but
43:04
Speaker 3: there's always that little, you know, tidbit you have to
43:08
Speaker 3: throw in there. I'm not saying that that was the
43:09
Speaker 3: case here at all. I don't know what these were
43:12
Speaker 3: mentioned of. But yeah, I mean there had to be
43:14
Speaker 3: a disconnect because I'm sure he wanted to keep that
43:16
Speaker 3: big league job. So I don't know if he went
43:18
Speaker 3: to michae Elias and the rest of the front office
43:20
Speaker 3: and said, hey, this are my thoughts and they disagreed.
43:23
Speaker 3: But he's if he says he's in a better place,
43:24
Speaker 3: how about we just say, hey, I'm in a better
43:26
Speaker 3: place now. It didn't work out in Baltimore and move
43:28
Speaker 3: on it. Just when you say these things after you're
43:30
Speaker 3: not hired as the manager or if you're let go
43:33
Speaker 3: as a player, And listen, we've all been emotional, we've
43:35
Speaker 3: all been mad, you just sound like you're a little salty, right,
43:40
Speaker 3: And I don't know, Listen, I wish him nothing but
43:43
Speaker 3: the best of the braves and I hope everything goes well.
43:44
Speaker 3: But I don't know, just you just seem a little
43:47
Speaker 3: salty when you say these things after you let go.
43:50
Speaker 1: What about Daryl Strawberry's quotes, which we already commented on,
43:53
Speaker 1: but we can get them from you. Your thoughts on
43:56
Speaker 1: Strawberry saying that Pete Alnso is going to regret his decision.
44:01
Speaker 1: The Mets didn't offer anything close to what the Orioles.
44:04
Speaker 2: Threw his way.
44:05
Speaker 5: The Mets didn't even make him an offer, did they?
44:07
Speaker 5: I thought?
44:07
Speaker 3: I mean I read this this Twitter thread and John
44:10
Speaker 3: Hayman fired back with You're wrong. They never even made
44:12
Speaker 3: him an offer. So how how is he gonna go back?
44:15
Speaker 3: Will you just show up at camp and be like, hey, guys,
44:17
Speaker 3: I'm back. I don't want to leave here. Listen, Pete
44:19
Speaker 3: Alonso did that last year. He didn't leave. He came
44:21
Speaker 3: back on the one year deal with the opt out,
44:23
Speaker 3: and what do he do? He had another great year
44:25
Speaker 3: and what the Mets do not offer him another contract?
44:28
Speaker 3: So what's he supposed to do? Darryl sit there and
44:31
Speaker 3: just show up at did Port Saint Lucien say guys,
44:33
Speaker 3: I'm back, and I don't you don't have to pay me,
44:34
Speaker 3: I'll just play for free. When the Orioles offered him
44:37
Speaker 3: what he offered, No, like come on, dude, like it's
44:40
Speaker 3: just just such a this is just such a I
44:42
Speaker 3: just got my number retired by the Mets. I have
44:44
Speaker 3: to do whatever they want me to say, like come on,
44:46
Speaker 3: know the facts before you say that.
44:48
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
44:49
Speaker 1: I don't even think the Mets wanted him to say that.
44:51
Speaker 1: I think Dyryl doesn't really pay attention to the nuances
44:54
Speaker 1: of free agency and what is going on in the offseason,
44:57
Speaker 1: and so a reporter. But yeah, but he's going to
45:00
Speaker 1: go and he's like, oh, yeah, he's gonna regret that, but.
45:03
Speaker 3: He's going to go on the side of the Mets,
45:04
Speaker 3: right because they just retired his no doubt, you know,
45:07
Speaker 3: So he's gonna always, oh, you know, he's gonna look
45:10
Speaker 3: back at his choices. And I don't know what his
45:12
Speaker 3: free agency choices were when he left the Mets. Maybe
45:14
Speaker 3: you know, they were great obviously, but he made that decision.
45:17
Speaker 3: That's your decision, Darryl. But if Pete doesn't have the
45:20
Speaker 3: same opportunity to stay, and I don't know, maybe the
45:22
Speaker 3: Mets did offer Daryl a great contract Bick. Then again,
45:24
Speaker 3: I don't remember. That was a long long time ago.
45:27
Speaker 3: But Pete had a different path because again, the facts
45:29
Speaker 3: line up, and every reporter that you see says the
45:31
Speaker 3: Mets never made him an offer, so he can't just
45:33
Speaker 3: show up. It takes two to tango, they always say,
45:36
Speaker 3: and you need the team to want you back. The
45:38
Speaker 3: Orioles wanted Pete Alonzo. Guess where he is. He's in Baltimore.
45:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like the early impact is strong.
45:46
Speaker 1: So theme here, you go where you're wanted. And for
45:51
Speaker 1: the Orioles, I think a lesson was learned and we'll
45:53
Speaker 1: see if that impact plays out for this season. The
45:56
Speaker 1: one thing that could hold them back early on this
45:58
Speaker 1: season is that they're all aready down a couple players.
46:01
Speaker 1: I think there's enough depth for them to still be
46:02
Speaker 1: in a good position lineup wise. I know they'll be
46:04
Speaker 1: without Westbrook for at least a month. Sounds like Holiday
46:07
Speaker 1: will miss at least a few weeks, but there are
46:09
Speaker 1: some opportunities for other guys to step up here and
46:12
Speaker 1: they still added. Like AJ has been mentioning about seventy
46:15
Speaker 1: home runs with Pete and Taylor Ward, I don't think
46:18
Speaker 1: offense is going to be the problem.
46:19
Speaker 2: I have more questions about the.
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