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OUTRO: The Theatre of Radio · The Hauraki Big Show

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  Speaker 1: Do Do for all your men bastards.
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  Speaker 2: That's got your That's not cool, Kies, it's a different guy.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: Kezy came in today and it was like he literally
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  Speaker 1: rolled out of bed.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been in bed. I wish I'd been in bed.
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  Speaker 2: That's the issue.
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  Speaker 3: I had a big night last night, didn't you.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have a small night.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about that. I look in a little bit sleepy,
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. I've been on the pess. If I'm
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  Speaker 3: honest with you, how do you how very especially when
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  Speaker 3: I know what a big day you hear today, Keys,
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  Speaker 3: huge day, the huge morning that you're head in front
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  Speaker 3: of you today. I hope you didn't put that at risk.
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  Speaker 2: Mate. It went great. Sure, guess what were you having
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  Speaker 2: a few beers last night? I was literally like this
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  Speaker 2: is going to help because tomorrow I have to be tired,
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  Speaker 2: and I was fucking tired.
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  Speaker 3: It was great.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. It's called method acting. It was so
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  Speaker 2: I was like, here we go. Now I'm gona start
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  Speaker 2: hitting the bttle all the time.
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  Speaker 3: That's where it started for Jason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon, you know, if they're I always wondered
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  Speaker 1: if there was a scene where you had to be drunk.
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  Speaker 1: Was my attitude was, well, let's get drunk, but of
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  Speaker 1: course directors are like, no, no, obviously we won't do that.
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  Speaker 1: You have to pretend to be drunk.
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  Speaker 2: And the opportunity though, and that's where.
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  Speaker 1: You see the worst acting is when people try and
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  Speaker 1: be drunk, like when you go, I'm very good at
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  Speaker 1: being drunk because what what the big mistake that can make.
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  Speaker 3: To the Lispeg son of Jason is pitting himself on the.
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  Speaker 1: Being drunk, because the big mistake that most people make
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  Speaker 1: when they're pretending to be they're two, they're way over
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  Speaker 1: the top with it. Instead of being slow and just
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  Speaker 1: slightly off kilter, they try to go.
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  Speaker 2: Right. It's like no, no.
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  Speaker 3: The thing with drunk people, Jace as they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: act like they're not drunk.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So he was just trying to cover her app all
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  Speaker 1: the time was that it just then there was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of it just it's very subtle.
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  Speaker 2: Keysy, So you hungover? Is that the point? No, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not hungover. I had four beers. Oh really, I was
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  Speaker 2: just we were just up late. We didn't get home
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  Speaker 2: till midnight because after how because we had the slippy
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  Speaker 2: Chisher Island screening which my wife used to work for
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  Speaker 2: TV ands in. All of her friends still work there
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  Speaker 2: and invited me just so that i'd bring her as
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  Speaker 2: a plus one and they can hang out with her,
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  Speaker 2: which is fair enough. But then afterwards they we all
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  Speaker 2: meet up at a bar and had a few drinks
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  Speaker 2: for a week while.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have drinks there, No, they did before all right,
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  Speaker 1: yeah before the screening.
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  Speaker 2: Hohen I had a beer? Yes, Jace. Yeah. God.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so much free pess around Magie these days,
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  Speaker 1: missing out massive industry.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, you know, you out. The thing
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  Speaker 2: is we're not hitting the purse constantly. There's just a
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  Speaker 2: beer or two here, you know, here or there. You're
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  Speaker 2: not here there yeah here, well there yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a tragedy.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway. How'd it go?
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  Speaker 2: The callback? Yeah? Okay, So for those who don't know,
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  Speaker 2: got an audition? Did the audition? Then you need a
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  Speaker 2: call back, which I believe is about four or five people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: might be less I mean, who knows you. And so
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  Speaker 2: that happened and you go back and I was like, shit,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what we have to do today? Literally the
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  Speaker 2: same thing again, just with a different person, once again
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  Speaker 2: holding a little small handicam. Yeah, you're in front of
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  Speaker 2: a wall. The weird thing about this one is obvious.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give away what it is all
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  Speaker 2: what I had to do, but it involves me being
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  Speaker 2: part of a relationship and a family. And so you
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  Speaker 2: arrive and there's like a a person, mid twenties person there,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just like, this is your partner. Ah, hello,
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  Speaker 2: so we're gonna we love each other, do it? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And then a lady walked in with her like three
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  Speaker 2: year old daughter, and I was like, that's obviously my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah, And so it was this weird thing
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  Speaker 2: where you were like meeting all the people who you
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  Speaker 2: might be having this family with and then you say,
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  Speaker 2: all right, well, hopefully see you next time after ten
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  Speaker 2: minutes of being there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it random. Anybody else there in the waiting room.
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  Speaker 2: One dude as I walked out, Yeah, just one dude.
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  Speaker 2: But there was the only other people in the waiting
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  Speaker 2: room where the people going for the like you know,
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  Speaker 2: the parents of the little kid. Yeah, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting though, really a good times. It takes
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  Speaker 2: me back afterwards. I was thanks, ey, that's my first
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  Speaker 2: ever callback, and they're oh great, did really well? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: thanks thanks for that, thanks mate. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It is the weird aspects of acting is when you
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  Speaker 1: get those scenarios where you meet a total stranger and
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  Speaker 1: then have to act together and pretend like your lovers
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  Speaker 1: or whatever there, it can be quite strange.
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  Speaker 2: I had one.
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  Speaker 3: What I think it was for hard Courts and just
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  Speaker 3: had to go in. I don't know why. I didn't care,
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  Speaker 3: but I really didn't and I just had so much
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  Speaker 3: fun and got the role. And then that was with
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  Speaker 3: Jackie van Beek. She be my wife. It was my
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  Speaker 3: first time meeting her. And Renee Lyons was the real
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  Speaker 3: estate agent. Right. Yes, it was just all improv of
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing, and none of our dialogue was used
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  Speaker 3: in the edit because it just had music playing over
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  Speaker 3: the top of it. And so it's like our relationship
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  Speaker 3: with our real estate agent over the years as we
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  Speaker 3: went through the years and got bigger homes and moved
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  Speaker 3: around and stuff. But because we knew that we could.
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't hear what we were saying. We were you know,
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  Speaker 3: it wouldn't be used in the air. We'd be saying
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  Speaker 3: the most horrendous ship to each other. Yes, get a Susan,
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  Speaker 3: you're fucking slut A three way. There was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this one's like, it's really poorly, it's short.
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  Speaker 3: Let's that going for Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, So it's just like literally over and then there's
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  Speaker 2: probably five second graphic at the end of it or something.
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  Speaker 2: So literally yes, which is a nice way to start. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to improv, you know, although I'm it's fine,
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready to improve. It's actually really helpful.
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  Speaker 3: Though.
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  Speaker 2: The thing that it's been interesting is when doing something
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  Speaker 2: and you become self aware. Do you guys have that
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  Speaker 2: we are, Yeah, yeah, I can be south aware. Sure.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, so this time is we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: film that will just be a close up of you,
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  Speaker 2: my female partner, that's just close upon you. It cools
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  Speaker 2: to do the scene. Okay, you do the scene. It
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  Speaker 2: was all right, Chris, Now that's just gonna be close
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  Speaker 2: up on you. So they focus it on you and
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  Speaker 2: you're like okay, actually and then you're just like, sure,
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  Speaker 2: this is the one they'll be like looking at this
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  Speaker 2: is like, yes, I probably do a bit, and this
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  Speaker 2: is all why you're trying to just do it. And
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  Speaker 2: I've been nailing it until they they're focusing on you.
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  Speaker 2: You do your best work off camera.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's yeah, that's something I appreciate. There happens
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  Speaker 2: to me when I'm doing stand up too. When I
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  Speaker 2: was about to start last week when I was to
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  Speaker 2: stand up, just I was about to start, I know
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  Speaker 2: exactly how to start every time, and I just forgot it.
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  Speaker 2: And I was just like, I'm on stage in front
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  Speaker 2: of it people here, and I can't remember ship. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and so I just like stood there for like two
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  Speaker 2: seconds and then it came back to me. Those starts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, horror. Self Aware The.
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  Speaker 3: Whole Archy Big Show week days from four on Radio
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  Speaker 2: The Mind Blank. Do you do it on the radio?
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  Speaker 2: What becomes self aware when you're about to go live?
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  Speaker 1: No, I often have a mini panic attack before I go,
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  Speaker 1: but just you know, random one that will happened just before.
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  Speaker 2: I go live, like the first break of the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the very first one. Oh, yeah, I'll just forget.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I'm doing a radio show. Concentrate, concentrate,
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  Speaker 1: for God's sake. But no, I sat in your head,
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  Speaker 1: which I've already told you guys about. In the he
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  Speaker 1: had a terrifying moments of utter blankness at the start
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  Speaker 1: of a play.
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  Speaker 2: For example, I'm not good. I'm i'd ever do like
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  Speaker 2: a play or anything. Yeah, Like, it's too far down
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  Speaker 2: the acting route for me.
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  Speaker 3: You don't play? Yeah, plays, I need one? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: did one, and it was I didn't want to. It
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  Speaker 3: was just like a guy. A guy got hired in
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  Speaker 3: the lead and then he got cast in a TV show,
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  Speaker 3: so obviously he took the TV shows at Circle down
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  Speaker 3: in Wellington. I must have told you about this, Jay
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  Speaker 3: and then and then the director ragged me up ward
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  Speaker 3: work with on TV shows and he was like, you
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  Speaker 3: gonta do a play man you wonder And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely not. And it was the lead role. And I
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  Speaker 3: had eight days to learn a ninety five page script.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck that.
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  Speaker 3: And I was in every single scene. I think it
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  Speaker 3: had one scene off. It was a three hander. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And so I was like, yeah, right out right right,
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  Speaker 3: yeah did that? And I learned. It was even probably less,
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  Speaker 3: I think, because don't know, if you know Jason White,
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  Speaker 3: the hector, was yeah, so he was very well too
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  Speaker 3: briefly and he's like, nah, piece of person.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I used to learn like thirty pages a day, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh sweet. So then I was learning
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five pages a day, so I was like yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and just just did it because you had to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then I really loved it, really loved it. But
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  Speaker 3: it was like it was twenty eight performances or something
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  Speaker 3: across a month round about and.
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  Speaker 2: Did you do them all?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 3: And then but then I found jas that you get
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  Speaker 3: like after five or six, Okay, i'll get it over it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't get but I didn't really find the
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  Speaker 3: reward and going again and again and again and finding
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  Speaker 3: something else. I did like the fact that if you
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  Speaker 3: had an idea, you could go oh great, And we've
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  Speaker 3: spoken about that before. When you do a TV thing
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  Speaker 3: or a film thing, you often have your best ideas
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  Speaker 3: when you're driving home. Ah, I should have done that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but with a player, you can go, well, I try
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  Speaker 3: that tomorrow, and more often than not, you try it
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  Speaker 3: and it sucked.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it just becomes a job. I remember we had
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  Speaker 1: this legendary situation. It was I wasn't in the play.
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  Speaker 1: It was before my time, but we had that exact
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  Speaker 1: scenario where the main lead in our school play got
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  Speaker 1: sick and like really sick. And this guy I remember,
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  Speaker 1: I still remember his name, Graham Perdoh, who was the coolest.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, he was the coolest dude.
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  Speaker 1: He used to have an umbrella and just walk around.
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  Speaker 2: He was.
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  Speaker 1: Today and yeah, he was in the seventh form and
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  Speaker 1: I think I was in the fourth form or something.
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  Speaker 2: He was just a very cool dude.
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  Speaker 1: The day before it opened, he took over the role
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  Speaker 1: without any you know, they said, Graham, do you want
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  Speaker 1: to do it?
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  Speaker 2: And he did it and it was brilliant and learnt
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  Speaker 2: it all in a day. Did swing's umbrella around?
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  Speaker 1: No, But he was just one of those really cool cats.
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  Speaker 3: It's quite good, isn't. It's good to have done. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I would do again.
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  Speaker 2: So what was the saying yes?
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  Speaker 3: Because I was scared play?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Right, So if I'm scared of it, I have to
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  Speaker 3: say yes. If the only reason you're not doing something
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  Speaker 3: is because you're scared of doing it, then you have
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  Speaker 3: to say yes, I don't know that. If you're scared
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  Speaker 3: of failure and that's what's stopping you, you have to do.
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  Speaker 2: But what if it's something that is literally nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with anything you're interested in doing because it was
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  Speaker 2: acting and you were scared. Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: If it's like fucking you want to fix his car
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  Speaker 3: or go for a really long walk, then yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I would do a play again.
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  Speaker 1: I've done quite a few.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like something, a real good one, like what are
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  Speaker 3: the classics? JA?
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  Speaker 2: Certainly not Shakespeare, Billy Elliot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't think I want to do Shakespeare.
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  Speaker 3: Gary Glenn Ross.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like that one Blood Brothers plays.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm waiting for gott I saw that one
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  Speaker 3: with McCallen. Yes, and who was in it with him?
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  Speaker 2: That's a fucking random place, don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I just.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't Patrick Stewart, I don't think. And then I'd never
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  Speaker 3: I'd never heard of the play. I was like twenty,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how old I was. And it's not short, no,
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  Speaker 3: And you're sitting there watching it and it was about
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  Speaker 3: an hour fifteen into it and I was like bitless,
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  Speaker 3: fucking god, I was not even going to turn Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and so it proved, But fuck that was boring.
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  Speaker 2: Well so was Beckett.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the writer, he's brilliant but kind of a pretty
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  Speaker 1: tedious character. It is biography right, well, no order, no biography.
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  Speaker 1: He's a pretty grim, stolic, boring dude.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Most most people that you guys act words, right,
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  Speaker 2: do they do plays?
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  Speaker 3: I have acted?
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  Speaker 2: It's a split yeah yeah back in the day. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: about like back for example, back when Brokenwood was still going,
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  Speaker 2: did any of those because that's like a serious program,
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  Speaker 2: did any of those actors do plays? Yeah? Yeah, quite
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  Speaker 2: a few of them, right, Okay? Is it like a
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  Speaker 2: thing that you do when you're not And then.
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  Speaker 1: There's unfortunately there's not a lot of theater around really.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, Auckland Theater Company. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's still going, isn't.
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  Speaker 3: It, and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's not huge opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually a basement as amateur theater, and they
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  Speaker 3: do some good stuff, but they're really short runs.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I did actually get asked a couple of times
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  Speaker 1: to do those plays, but I don't know why attend now,
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  Speaker 1: Probably because I was too terrified.
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  Speaker 3: They're terrifying and also horrendously paid my experience anyway, because
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  Speaker 3: very much. They set it up as a co op,
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  Speaker 3: so you get a percentage of the door, and I
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  Speaker 3: think I did. What was that month? I got like
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  Speaker 3: four hundred bucks or something?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, shit the fuck? Yeah. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: You're not in it obviously for the money, but do
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  Speaker 3: be nice to have more than that.
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  Speaker 1: It's better than like, you know, Johnny and I going
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  Speaker 1: and doing tours around the country and then fucking owing money.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're on the hammele. And that was the problem
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  Speaker 3: with the theater, is that you could just run a
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  Speaker 3: tab on the bar and then at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the yes and then one else I think on the
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  Speaker 3: cast owed money.
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  Speaker 2: That great.
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  Speaker 1: That great autobiography I told you about with Barry Humphrees
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  Speaker 1: and oh yeah, called More Please. He's got some magnificent
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  Speaker 1: stories of doing plays and ship and getting heavily on
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  Speaker 1: the pest all the time, and doing a scene and
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  Speaker 1: running off to the bar and having a quicktion and
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  Speaker 1: and then running back on again.
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  Speaker 3: It was great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Unreal, wasn't yeh Man back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, like if I was approached, it's very elegant,
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  Speaker 1: isn't she?
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  Speaker 2: If I was approached eyes to the front, are you
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  Speaker 2: kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I think it was approached not long ago,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't remember what.
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  Speaker 3: It was for, but probably moved along, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be my party, which is very elegant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you'd know that. So what I was gonna ask
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  Speaker 2: before is would you rather, with a week's notice, do
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  Speaker 2: a fight, a boxing fight or a play?
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  Speaker 3: At my age of play a play? Yeah, I was
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  Speaker 3: too old any any injury. I sustained that I'd.
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  Speaker 2: Die if I had a fight. Yeah, there's two minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I'd have a heart attack. Let's use that excuse again.
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  Speaker 2: Old Kizy will do it for you. Yeah, Jas will
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  Speaker 2: sign up for it. That old up. That's that's a
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  Speaker 2: true story. Uh today, Hey Hidarky Big show four or
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  Speaker 2: seven weekdays. It's super good. Check it's so good. It's
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  Speaker 2: so elegant.