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130. [Tennessee] Emma Walker · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to bless this nice in the drue
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  Speaker 1: Grum podcast. I don't care who is do says do?
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, all right, we're back.
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  Speaker 1: We were delayed starting this because somebody touched my computer
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  Speaker 1: and they weren't supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: Who is that?
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  Speaker 1: And we got into a whole freaking no you Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I go open this. I'm like, okay, let's always just
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  Speaker 1: open my latest garage band that has all the settings
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  Speaker 1: and everything set up for recording the podcast. And I
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  Speaker 1: go to open it and it's like the latest episode
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  Speaker 1: they have on there for the of the like open
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  Speaker 1: most recent was from twenty like eighteen or something, twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty, way back then. And I'm like, hey, did
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  Speaker 1: you do something in my computer? Like all my garage
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  Speaker 1: band stuff's missing? No?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I talked you d No, No, you didn't say that.
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  Speaker 1: I said. I said, oh, you were messing with it
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  Speaker 1: and he and I was like, all you did was
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  Speaker 1: update the operating system, which he didn't because my computer
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have enough room to do that. And he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well no, he actually plugged in a hard drive, like
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  Speaker 1: an actual like hard physical hard drive.
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  Speaker 2: Called an external drive.
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  Speaker 1: External drive okay, nerd they plug He plugged in an
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  Speaker 1: external drive, and now all of a sudden he remembers
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  Speaker 1: and cause I was like, what's this this thing that
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  Speaker 1: says it needs to be ejected over here? I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like he plugs me. He doesn't even remember
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  Speaker 1: freaking plugging it in, apparently dragging a bunch of files.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, days ago and everything. Obviously their panic
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  Speaker 1: and trying to go back in time machine. Well there's
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  Speaker 1: no time machine because you you apparently you take everything
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  Speaker 1: from a certain period of time. It pushed it all
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  Speaker 1: in the external drive. Anyway, So we've been delayed starting this.
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  Speaker 1: We should have started this three hours ago anyway. So
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: we're back. We went on our trip. We're not going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it right now though, because we don't
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  Speaker 1: want to anger everybody that doesn't want to hear about it.
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  Speaker 2: That's a long story.
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  Speaker 1: It's a long story like YadA, YadA, YadA. Anyways, but
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  Speaker 1: we had a good time. We had a good time.
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  Speaker 1: That children did very well on the plane.
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  Speaker 2: Better going than coming back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they did okay coming back. The baby was
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  Speaker 1: a little fussier coming back, so I had to do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of standing. She just was like she just
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  Speaker 1: not having it me sitting down and being comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, she doesn't like one to sit down now,
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  Speaker 2: Well she.
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  Speaker 1: Did okay on the way there. But also we got
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  Speaker 1: kind of screwed American Airlines on the plane situation too.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, we won't go into it right now because
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  Speaker 1: we don't want to anger everybody who doesn't like chit chat.
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  Speaker 2: Like stew well, it's about an hour a chit chat.
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to tell the whole story of the trip.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell the whole story of the trip.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even going to talk about it anyway. So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna try it. We're trying to get these episodes out.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say, I'm just gonna say right now,
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  Speaker 1: any so, if some of you follow me on my
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  Speaker 1: like more personal page and stuff, and I do things
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  Speaker 1: like I'm just living my everyday life, okay over there,
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  Speaker 1: like cleaning, cooking, I've gotten into sour dough, none of
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  Speaker 1: that is resulting us not recording the podcast. The podcast
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  Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with that's just like my
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  Speaker 1: day to day life. So it's not like I'm choosing
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  Speaker 1: to do that stuff over the podcast and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: why the fuck she making bread when she recording the
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  Speaker 1: podcast or whatever. That's not what's happening. You want to
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  Speaker 1: know why we don't record the podcast. I've had this
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  Speaker 1: episode written for like two or three weeks now. It's
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  Speaker 1: these three children. Okay, so unless somebody wants to come
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  Speaker 1: over babiesit these children. Because what happens is we need
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  Speaker 1: all three of them to sleep or be in quiet
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  Speaker 1: time and be occupied for an extended period of time,
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  Speaker 1: all at the same time. Well that's very difficult. So
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  Speaker 1: like maybe the two go to bed on time, but
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  Speaker 1: then the baby's like, fuck you guys, I'm staying up
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  Speaker 1: till midnight party or the baby's like, yeah, I'm tired
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  Speaker 1: from last night. So then the other two are just
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  Speaker 1: in there like doing like you know, WWE style wrestling stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and then every once in a while they all they
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  Speaker 1: will all go to bed at the same time. But
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  Speaker 1: at that point it's like, I'm not prepared. We didn't
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  Speaker 1: plan to record the podcast, so like it's it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like something talked about and can't just be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's go record. So that's why there's delays right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's very difficult for us to get time to record
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  Speaker 1: is the problem. We don't have anybody to watch our children.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not paying a babysitter and watch the children while
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  Speaker 1: we sit in here and record either. So anyways, that's why.
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  Speaker 2: So I just I was wondering, why.
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  Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up?
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  Speaker 2: I hate you.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway. So nothing I'm doing over there, like me making,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like cleaning and recording myself. It's not affecting
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. I promise you, I truly truly promise you.
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  Speaker 1: It's these damn.
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  Speaker 2: Children, babies and trying to make babies.
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  Speaker 1: Stewart, stop, what is wrong with you?
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  Speaker 2: This is a this is a family show.
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  Speaker 1: It's a family show. Okay, all right, So enough about that.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of since we're talking about it, Instagram, you can
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  Speaker 1: go check out the podcast. I did do the the
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  Speaker 1: tiktoks on the the podcast January Nineteenth's better. No, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, it's like, what's the point, you know, what
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  Speaker 1: is the point? We have the Patreon. We appreciate everybody's
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  Speaker 1: support over there, and yeah, I'd love to write more
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  Speaker 1: stuff for the Patreon too, like do the second part
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  Speaker 1: of the Scott Peterson thing, third part, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: hard to record right now. I mean, I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what else to tell you, guys, So all right,
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  Speaker 1: anything else do no? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Rate review, subscribe, Good God starts a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So this this week we are headed in
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  Speaker 1: to Tennessee. Yes, all right, so are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready when you're ready, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Emma Jane Walker was born March twentieth, two thousand, to
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  Speaker 1: Mark and Jill Walker in Knoxville, Tennessee. She was one
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  Speaker 1: of two children. She had a younger brother named Evan. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Emma was very pretty. She's outgoing, funny, she's just like
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  Speaker 1: she's the popular girls do. She had it all going
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  Speaker 1: for She loved being on the cheer team at Central
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  Speaker 1: High School. And she's just this quintessential all American girl.
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  Speaker 1: She's even dating a football player named Riley Gull who
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  Speaker 1: was a year or two ahead of her in school.
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  Speaker 1: And he was also described as like athletic and very
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  Speaker 1: smart and this good looking guy. You know, it's this
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  Speaker 1: perfect couple. So Emma had a very stable home life
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  Speaker 1: and seemed to have everything going for her. Now, while
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  Speaker 1: Emma was popular and a cheerleader, she was not that
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  Speaker 1: like stuck up kind stude.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's bitches in high school because they were
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  Speaker 2: stuck up.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I remember, Stu and I have talked about this
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  Speaker 1: if like you guys know, we have like a bit
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  Speaker 1: of an age difference. But if we had been the
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  Speaker 1: same age and had been in high school together, there's
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  Speaker 1: no there's absolutely zero chance we would have ever even
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  Speaker 1: probably interacted. Wow, Why are you saying wow? What do
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  Speaker 1: you think? Why don't you think it might have been
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  Speaker 1: the other way around? That you wouldn't have talked to me, may.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to women.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so I'm just just any basic bitch, just whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You only get so many tugs on the line, got
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  Speaker 2: to go with it.
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  Speaker 1: No, I would have never interacted with children. I know
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  Speaker 1: what it took you. It took you a couple, took
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  Speaker 1: you a few years to catch up to my maturity.
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  Speaker 1: St anyway, so she's not stuck up at all. She
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  Speaker 1: they everybody felt like they could, you know, talk to her.
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  Speaker 1: And she had friends like from all different kinds of
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  Speaker 1: groups in school, not like the like me and I
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  Speaker 1: would have been like.
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  Speaker 2: The stoners, the nerds, the geeks.
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  Speaker 1: That I don't think she was hanging out with the
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  Speaker 1: stoners too. You don't think no can happen so she
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  Speaker 1: was very down to earth and described as having a
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  Speaker 1: kind soul. I was not described as having a kind.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, if you never will be described as
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  Speaker 2: having a kind I won't or lighting up a room.
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  Speaker 1: When you came, unless it's like with the jeff Dytty
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  Speaker 1: you pissed.
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  Speaker 2: Me off gasoline in a match, I'll let that fucking
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  Speaker 2: room up.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this is true, That's how i'd light him, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, So it's a great, very pretty girl, very
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  Speaker 1: popular and just all around just a nice person.
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  Speaker 2: On November twenty first, twenty sixteen, Emma's mother, Jill, went
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  Speaker 2: to wake Emma up, as she normally did. Emma's dad
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  Speaker 2: had already gone to work, so it was just her,
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  Speaker 2: Emma and Evan home at the time. Now, when Emma
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  Speaker 2: did not immediately wake up.
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  Speaker 1: I know this is not This is not funny, okay,
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  Speaker 1: But what is happening behind the scenes is because this
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  Speaker 1: is like our seventh take. Did you try to get
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  Speaker 1: this one sentence?
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  Speaker 2: So why are you telling everybody hell the sausage man?
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Because it has to be four wall at this point.
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  Speaker 1: By the time we mess up seven, you mess up
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  Speaker 1: seven times.
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  Speaker 2: No, this this is the person that wrote this and
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  Speaker 2: the editor that didn't approfread this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I did. I told him ahead of time before
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  Speaker 1: what I printed this up. I said, I did not
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  Speaker 1: spell checked. You did not, which is like a really
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  Speaker 1: bad situation for us, because whenever I'm typing, I just
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  Speaker 1: like letters anyways, go back to being serious, so so
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  Speaker 1: we don't get bad reviews.
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  Speaker 2: Reviews, so we don't get more batter go to hell.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we get those two. So anyway, Jill called
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  Speaker 2: for Emma. Emma did not immediately wake up like she
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  Speaker 2: normally did.
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  Speaker 1: She normally pops right because she's a teenager. She's a cheerleader,
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  Speaker 1: she's got lots of energy, she read for the day,
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  Speaker 1: her life is all everything's going for. I did not
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  Speaker 1: like to wake up whenever I'm a teenager. Though.
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  Speaker 2: It's like our children, they do not like to be
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  Speaker 2: waken up.
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  Speaker 1: They do not. So it's like, because my brother came
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  Speaker 1: for Christmas, and he always jokes because he he he's
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: like a wake up person in the morning or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So when we were kids on Christmas morning, he would
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  Speaker 1: get up at like six o'clock in the morning and
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  Speaker 1: he's just waiting around for my mom's Like my mom
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  Speaker 1: would tell him like, oh, you can't, uh, you can't
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  Speaker 1: open presents and tell everybody's awake and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Like that, and like, well what bitches the last one
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  Speaker 2: that wakes up in the household me.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, so on Christmas morning, so I have another brother,
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  Speaker 1: but he wasn't in the home for various reasons. So
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  Speaker 1: it's usually I think it was just me and Brenda
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  Speaker 1: there at the end or whatever. You know, it's all
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  Speaker 1: a bar so uh. Anyway, so my mom tell him like,
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  Speaker 1: you can't can't do anything until Kara gets up to it.
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  Speaker 1: So he go in there and try to wake me up,
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  Speaker 1: and I would not not get up. So he's just
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  Speaker 1: having to sit around till like ten o'clock the morning
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  Speaker 1: of Christmas morning waiting. It's no wonder they don't like
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  Speaker 1: me anyways.
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  Speaker 2: It's wondering if anybody married you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh shut up, Stu. So anyway, so she but she
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  Speaker 1: normally Emma normally pops out of bed. Emma's usually up
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  Speaker 1: and ready to go when her mom.
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  Speaker 2: Calls for her, and nobody in this house pops up.
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  Speaker 2: And now we got to set snoozes and yeah, all
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  Speaker 2: the things. So anyway, Jill goes up to wake Emma
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  Speaker 2: and whenever she touches her, she felt cold. She felt
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  Speaker 2: around some more and she could not find a pulse
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  Speaker 2: on Emma. Jill then screamed and Emma's brother, Evan came
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  Speaker 2: in to see what was going on. He couldn't find
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  Speaker 2: a pulse either. It appeared that Emma was dead. They
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  Speaker 2: called nine one one. Jill is screaming she's dead, and
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  Speaker 2: you can hear Evan in the background screaming as well.
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  Speaker 2: Jill Dows tells nine one one that she went to
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  Speaker 2: wake her daughter up for school and that she is
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  Speaker 2: not alive.
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  Speaker 1: Now. Around seven am, detectives were called to the scene
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  Speaker 1: of the Walker home. They initially thought they were dealing
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  Speaker 1: with a teen suicide because this is normally what you
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  Speaker 1: would think, and you know right away is sixteen year old,
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  Speaker 1: can't wake them up or whatever. You're going to immediately
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  Speaker 1: probably go to that thought first because it's condition or suicide. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because it's not common for sixteen year olds to get
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  Speaker 1: murdered in their bed. It's just not a thing. Whoiler,
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  Speaker 1: despite what dateline tells you, it's not a thing. So
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  Speaker 1: they're immediately coming to the scene just thinking suicide or
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  Speaker 1: maybe she overdosed or something like that, or not even overdosed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it was fentanyl thing
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  Speaker 1: back then, you know, like today, these kids are trying
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  Speaker 1: stuff and it's laced with fentanyl. Next thing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they could have never done a drug in their life
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  Speaker 1: and they get something bad in there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't hear about benanall to the last few years,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know if I mean, if I
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  Speaker 2: was around, it wasn't prevalent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't being shaped like spreeze or whatever they
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  Speaker 1: do nowadays. So detectives they entered the home and secured
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  Speaker 1: the perimeter, you know, just in case. Emma looked like
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  Speaker 1: she was just sleeping. So it initially appeared that Emma
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  Speaker 1: had vomited near her head. However, so this is what
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  Speaker 1: her mom and then thought just by looking at her. However,
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  Speaker 1: when the detectives arrived in upon her inspection, they determined
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  Speaker 1: it was actually brain matter coming out of the side
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  Speaker 1: of her head and it wasn't vomit. So they look
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  Speaker 1: around and they find no weapon. So they were quickly
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  Speaker 1: able to determine that this was not a suicide and
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  Speaker 1: that foul play was involved. Now, this did not stop
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  Speaker 1: the rumors, though, because words spread quickly through the town
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  Speaker 1: that Emma had passed, and rumors began about her death,
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  Speaker 1: from an overdose to a heart attack, to an aneurysm
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  Speaker 1: to suicide like everything it had just this town that
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: just like wildfire stake, like.
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  Speaker 2: Every town everywhere yous yep.
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  Speaker 1: So her friends immediately dismissed the suicide theories. They knew
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  Speaker 1: that Emma, they knew Emma, and they knew that she
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  Speaker 1: would never do something like that. She never spoke about it,
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  Speaker 1: She didn't have those type of like thoughts with them
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. So they were like, something, something
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  Speaker 1: bad has happened to her.
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  Speaker 2: Now. The police knew this was not a suicide, they
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  Speaker 2: needed to determine who would do this to a sexteen
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  Speaker 2: year old girl. Emma having enemies that would go to
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  Speaker 2: these links to harm her didn't really seem likely, so
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  Speaker 2: they ran some theories through. This included the parents' suspects,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, as you can have abuse going on
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  Speaker 2: in the house, it's not out of the realm of possibility,
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  Speaker 2: and that she just didn't speak of it outside the home,
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  Speaker 2: and that she was too scared to go to authorities,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe she had threatened to go to authorities and
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  Speaker 2: they had killed her. So that was one of their
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  Speaker 2: theories they were going to work through.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately they have to go there, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: with the they could be the best parents in the world,
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  Speaker 1: but they have to ask those questions to just asking questions.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just asking questions. What is that from Jesse the
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: body Ventura, US Navy Seal WWE wrestler or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: Gov of Minnesota. The family did have guns and they
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  Speaker 2: were in a safe and the whole family would have
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  Speaker 2: had access to the guns, including Emma and her brother Evan.
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  Speaker 2: They spoke with the parents about the events of that morning.
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  Speaker 2: Emma's dad said that in the middle of the night,
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  Speaker 2: at around three am, he heard what he thought was
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  Speaker 2: a door slamming, and then that woke him from his sleep.
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  Speaker 2: He got up to check on his children, but he
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  Speaker 2: didn't see anything unusual, so he went back to bed.
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  Speaker 2: I hate when I hear things in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the night and I gotta get up and walk around
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  Speaker 2: the house. Yeah, you remember that time you woke up
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  Speaker 2: and you said there was somebody outside, You're wake up,
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  Speaker 2: wake up.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know. There could have been Stuart.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know, I got up, I.
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  Speaker 1: Know, and you went outside and you scared them off,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why there was anybody there. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: if there was someone there and on you can't tell.
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  Speaker 1: You can't prove it one way or the other.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I can't. There's some crazy person walking around
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  Speaker 2: the house with a gun. You said there was somebody
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  Speaker 2: outside our window.
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  Speaker 1: I thought there was when.
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  Speaker 2: Because you were back fast asleep when I came back
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  Speaker 2: on the house.
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  Speaker 1: Oh what I wonder.
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  Speaker 2: I was probably drinking probably so anyway.
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  Speaker 1: But it's funny because it's like you always just wait, well,
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  Speaker 1: the husband, the dad got up and everything like that,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and the then the wife just stays in bed. That's
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: what we do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had me walking all the way around the
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: house in the middle of the night and my drawers,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: my pajamas barefoot.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad it was. It's something for you'd remember
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and bitch about later.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Wow, I only got a couple of thanks. I'm glad.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I give you so many to bring up.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: There's probably ten I can think of just today. Off,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: start starting with this damn external drawer. Don't you tell
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: me if you're gonna say I got an external.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: What are you gonna say, it's a floppy guess.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: It's a micro some micro.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Like, come on, I'm gonna finish this podcast up. Okay.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Jill woke up as well. She asked him what was
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: going on, and he said that he had just heard
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a noise, but everything was good. After speaking to the family,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: police were now able to determine that no abuse was
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: occurring in the home and that then they needed to
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: start looking outside the home for the culprit.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Stu forgot to mention earlier, whenever he was doing his part,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: that they determined that the manner of death what I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: was going to say, the matter of death, the manner
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of death was a gunshot wound to the head. That's
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: he missed that sentence.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Somewhere in there. No, No, it wasn't in there. It
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't written.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: It was implied like our proposal, like your proposals, Stu.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: When it Stull proposed to me and I'm sure we've
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: mentioned this before. He handed me a bag with a
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: ring in it and I opened it up and he said,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, this is a proposal or
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: what asking me to? And I said, you didn't even
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: ask me to marry you, and he said it was implied, yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and I want to. I went through with the marriage.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I know it's it's my own fault.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, the ticket.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I guess fine, then I forgot to I forgot
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to go through. I guess I just jumped to them
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: investigating with the gun. But yes, the manner of death
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: was a gunshot wing to the head. Now, while reviewing
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the crime scene, they were able to determine that the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: shots did not get fired inside the home. There were
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: no signs of forced entry, and they found the bullet
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: hole from the shot that killed Emma in the wall,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and it was clear from how the wall parted that
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that gun shot actually came from outside the house, which
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: is crazy, you know, like someone shot from outside the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: house and hit her. So they go look outside and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: they find where the bullet entered on the and then
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: on the ground they found a nine nine millimeter nine
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: milimeters spent bullet casing from a handgun. They then went
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: around and found another bullet hole in the wall in
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: another spent casing. Now, the bullets were like, so there's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: her bed at a ninety degree angle, like at the corner,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: so it's coming in from both sides to try to
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: hit her her head where she laced asleep. So these
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: were not just random. So they were like, was this
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a dry by shoot? Like, was this a you know,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: a flyaway bullet? What's the word a stray bullet? Was
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: this a stray bullet from a dry by which is
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: just the neighborhood that they lived in. This was not
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: like something that would occur, and so but they were
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: looking at these this angle of these bullets, and these
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: were very calculated placements of the gunshots that were in
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the wall.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Media attention on the case quickly skyrocketed, and it spread
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: to national and international news. To have a beautiful sixteen
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: year old die in her bedroom from gunshots in a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: quiet neighborhood was quite the event for this area. It
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: just didn't happen in this in this town. Police began
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: speaking to Emma's friends and they find out some strange
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: activity had occurred in the days leading up to the murder.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: On November eighteenth, Emma was with a friend and she
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: received a text saying come outside alone or somebody you
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: love will get hurt. She went outside, but her friend
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: camwa her. They saw nothing. They went back inside.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: They're crazy, Like, why would you go outside.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Like scream? What are you wearing? How's that popcorn?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand. I would have never in a
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: million years gone outside, been like yeah, let's just let's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: just go outside. Oh I'm going to come with you.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe we can get hurt together.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Jill then received a text saying what part of a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: loan do you not understand? Jill? Emma, The friend asked
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: if they should call.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So obviously whoever it was was really actually sitting there
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: watching them, which is even scarier that they're actually that
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: close in that you're just like.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Man, yeah, wait till I tell you what happened next.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I kind of know what happened next.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: The friend asked if they should call the police, but
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Emma said no. They just went to bed, and they
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: closed the blinds and just went on with their night.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: What to be a teenager that wasn't watching Dateline in
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: forty hours mystery when they were eight life.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: This person knows that we came out together.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's watching us right now. It's outside of our home.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Let's go close the blinds.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: They can't see us. No, it's fine.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Put the movie back on.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Put scream back on Jesus. Yeah, that was like crazy
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to me that she If something like that happened to me,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I would have immediately called my mom and been like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: what do I do? There's someone watching me. Someone needs
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: to come help me right now and get me out
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of this house.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would not, I'd be like what the hell?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess she was just young and didn't think
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: anything like not every he goes straight to I'm going
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: to be murdered, Like.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I would go there. I mean I don't typically
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: go to I'm going to be murdered, but if somebody's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: actually outside watching a man texting me, yeah, I'd probably
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: go to I'm probably gonna get murdered.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Well, she was a cheerleader, what do you expect.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: The next morning, Emma head's home from her friend's house
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: when she sees a man all dressed in black with
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a hoodie walking in her neighborhood. It seemed odd to her,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: so she pulled into her driveway and she went inside.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: She soon hears a banging on her door. Her parents
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: are at home, so she began texting her friends and
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: facetiming her boyfriend asking him to come over. This is
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: like right screen I.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Know, So she sends so she has like one of
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: these like group snapchats like text things with their friends
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and so she's like texting them like, hey,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: this guy dressed in black and now there's like banging
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: on my door like I'm scared and everything.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Call nine one one yes. So the boyfriend, Riley, he
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: heads over to the house to help her out. He
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: didn't see the man that Emma described. With this new information,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: please are wondering if Emma had a stalker, because someone
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: was clearly trying to scare her. They speak to people
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: in the neighborhood to see if anyone has seen the
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: man from that day. There is a lady in the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: neighborhood who said she had strategically placed her camera angled
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: to the entrance of the neighborhood.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: This lady, Okay, when this lady came on, like I knew,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I knew this lady immediately when she started talking, she
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: had like her little you know, Southern accent, and she's
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, this this was right after whenever the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: rumor mill started, after she the Emma had, you know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: word got out that she had passed away. She's like, yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: are he's talking in the neighborhood about this and everything.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: She's the neighborhood.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Taking out the blind.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, So after watching four two six hours of her recordings.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was the other thing that killed me. So
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I'm watching her and she talking and she's like, yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I was just sitting there and she's like, yeah, I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: have these cameras that are angled, you know, so I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: could see everybody comes in and out of the neighborhood.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And she's say like, yeah, I just I decided to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: play detective. And she just casually says, and I watched
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: four to six hours. I thought she was gonna be
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: like I watched, No, fifteen minutes and there there the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: person was I never She's like, just she just said
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: there watching four to six hours. You know, it was
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: six hours in she said four to six hours. She
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: just put the four on there to make it sound
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a little better, but it was definitely six hours. Lord,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, we need people like her, though. I hope
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to be her one day. You have the time.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: No, you won't look outside the window and see what's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: No, but if I had cameras, I'd definitely watch.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I've watched my cameras before. Yeah, trying to see what happened.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: We have we've played the cameras back before, looking at
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: stuff to.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: See what's going on, looking for cats.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Remember those neighbors and Karen Crow that thought we were
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: trying to watch in their backyard.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Well the wife did.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: She also got drunk and so called me a bitch.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Carry bitch, You a bitch? Carry?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Did she go with Carrie?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Well, she didn't know you were a bitch.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: That's a story, friend. I tried not to interact with people,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and somehow this shit still happens to me. Anyways, that's all.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That's a you know, that's a whole like that whole
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: situation next door is a story for It's a long story.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: That's a podcast. Yes, so she watched four to six
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: hours over her recording saw the man dressed in black
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: walking through the neighborhood. She contacted police and they viewed
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: with the recording and it was the same person that
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Emma's friends had described. Well, Emma described to her a friend, Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And I love how the lady didn't just turn the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: footage over to the police. She's like, I'm gonna find
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: this myself and then give it to him, because normally
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you just be like, I have footage here, and they'd watch,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: they'd have somebody, you know, watch all the footage. She's like, no,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this myself because I want to be able
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to talk about it to start the neighbors. Yeah, be
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: on dateline.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That is your dream, that is my dream.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Sorry, what are you people in this neighborhood is going
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to have to die?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: You think they know about that crime that you you
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: solved for them? Which crime in Texas?
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: What crime in Texas?
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Don't know? Something about a license plate?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And some people, Oh yeah, yeah, you know what's a crime.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Oh there was nobody dead in that one.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: So no, nobody died that I know of. No, it
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't dateline material anyways. All right, So please
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: bring in Riley the boyfriend, since he was the one
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: who showed up when Emma said the man was trying
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to get in the house. Now, when he came in
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: for the interview, he said he was because he never
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: saw the guy. They're like, she the guy was already
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: gone by the time he got there. And whenever Emma's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: mom got home, Riley and Emma were in the driveway
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and she was like upset about the you know, the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: guy banging on the door. So anyway, so he's like,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: real strange. He goes into this interview room and he says,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the girl texted me saying he was trying to get in,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and the detectives like said, what girl, Like, he said,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: so this is his girlfriend? The girl texted me. He's like,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: what girl? And he said the girl that passed away,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And he says, so then they said they asked what
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: her name was, and he said Emma. They're like, so,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: who's what's the name of the girl that passed away? Emma.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: So this is just super strange that he just wouldn't
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: say Emma texted me saying that there was a guy
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: trying to get in. Very strange. So he recounts today
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and how he came over to the house. He was
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: surprised to hear from her because she had recently broken
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: up with him, and despite him trying to get back
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: together with her, she insisted it was over. So this
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: was all so he was ready to get over there
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: because he's like, oh, she's talking to me again.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: She needs some help.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So this was interesting to police because now we
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: have an ex boyfriend who was upset about the breakup.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Trying to get back with her, and then this strange
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: interview not saying her name, which is weird. Now, Riley
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: did not have a criminal history. Remember he's the football player, smart,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: going to college, everything like that. Riley's parents were, however,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: were not cooperative at all, especially the mom, and they
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: did have quite the ced past.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Dude, did they yes? Do tell?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Well, there's not much to tell because I don't know
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: what their criminal history is, but they do have one.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So the family's a bit sketchy. But the Riley kids
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: never been in trouble, so she said, so they are.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: So they start looking into the family and everything, and
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: they find the mom's like Facebook probably profile and the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: mom posted if you mess with my son, I will
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: come after you.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Dumb dumb, dumb dumb. Please keep looking into the gall
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: family when they receive a tip that the grandfather had
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: a nine millimeter gun stolen just before the murder. The
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: home where the gun was stolen from was the place
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that Riley's mom lived as well. Was this coincidence or
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: did the mom have something to do with the murder?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Was hard work for you? Yes, SU's a little Steus's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: little shaken up. He was just a victim of a crime.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was a victim of a crime.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: It's a victim of a crime. Someone just tried to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: steal his credit card information. Well they did well, they
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: successfully stolen, but they did a little test run for fraud.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: We it was caught, Yes, had to deactivate my card.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: What's funny though, that's they that's such a small charge
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: on a website, and so that's funny that that's a
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: common place for that. It's such a common place for
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: people to try to commit fraud and do like a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: test run that the credit card companies know it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what the hell is CSS motion anyway?
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Did Yeah? I looked it's some sort of software thing
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Well, I didn't know the fuck.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: It had the word motion. I was gonna judge you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: which you were up?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's fraud.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: So I looked up CSS motion, so I'm like, what
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: is that? And then I looked up of course CSS
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: motion and then uh charge and then read it. Because
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you just throw the word redd in there, you'll get
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: all sorts agnsers and apparently it's a common thing that
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: they charged like sixty five His was sixty six cents,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: sixty five cents and It's kind of like a test
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: run to see if they can get away with it,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and then they'll go and hit your card with something
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: big if you don't catch it, if you just let
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the charge go through. But the credit card company knew
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that was a weird charge.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: My bank sent me a text, Yes, I deactivated the car. Okay,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I'm telling the people that you're telling the story to.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not telling you. You were here, you know what
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I did. Why would I be retelling you this.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: You're just like telling me like it's I just think
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: it's crazy that Why would the scammers keep using the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: same website if if the credit card companies know Anyways,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: that's why stud can't read the word coincidence. He's shaken
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: up from.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: His There was a coincidence that my card was spelling yeah. Anyway.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Police obtained a search warrant and they were able to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: find some spent shell casings from the gun at the residence.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: They apparently they were like the test I guess when
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you get a gun, it was like the test shell
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: test bullets.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: You get a shell casing with every new gun you purchased.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, so he still had them in like the little
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: baggy inside the case. So that's how they were able
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to get there.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Well, you only get one, but if you're going to
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: reload your own brast then you would keep your shell casings.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying he had it in a baggie
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: in the case. Still he'd never taken it out. That's
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: why they were able to get it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it said there's multiple cases according to what you wrote.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, when did I say they obtained search were able
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: to find some spent shell casings from the gun at
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the residence. There was two. Some one is one, some
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: is two.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Just stop. They tested the shell cases and found that
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: they were a match for the shellcasing at the crime scene.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: This was the murder weapon.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Now police receive a huge break in the case when
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: two of Riley's friends come forward telling police that Riley
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: asked them to help get rid of a gun and
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: that he had stolen from his grandfathers.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Riley is an idiot, Yes he is.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: They did not tell Riley they were going to turn
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: him in, so they told the police that they were
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: willing to help with the investigation, like in any way
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: that they could. So they actually these two teenage boys
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: agreed this is crazy. Agreed to get miked and miked
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: up and put cameras on them to catch Riley talking
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: about the gun and like to actually they needed them
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to like lay eyes on this gun. So they go
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: hang out with Riley and he tells them that he
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: did not hurt Emma, and you know, they say they
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: believe him. He tells them that he just needs help
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: getting rid of this gun.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Riley tells them he wants to throw it in the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: water at Bluff's which is part of the Tennessee River.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I guess it's like a commonplace that they would go
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: hang out. So Riley he goes in retrieves a pillowcase,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but the two boys still hadn't actually physically seen the
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: gun because it's still in this pillowcase with some other things.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: So the guys just keep saying like, well, if you
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: have the gun and you didn't do it, why wouldn't
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you just turn the gun in and everything like that,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: and since you didn't hurt her, and he's just like,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I just need to get rid of this gun. So
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: they load up in the car with the pillowcase with
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the gun that they believe is in the bag, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: then they stop for some fast food and kind of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: just hung out in the car, so like this whole
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: thing's on camera, like listening to it, just hanging out
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and they continue on to the bluffs. So Riley finally
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: pulls out the gun and the boys finally they see it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: They're like, okay, this is it, and they're not supposed
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to let the police know until they actually see it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: So they have a code word that they've agreed upon,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: so they say that code word. In a few minutes
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: go by and the police arrive and ask everyone to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: step out of the vehicle. Now they were able to
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: get Riley out of the car without incident. He just
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: gets up, you know.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: He's like, in imagine it'd be a little tense with
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: the police knowing there's a gun in the car. Yes, yeah,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: no if it's loaded or not.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Plus those two two boys were in the car that
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: are trying to help the police out, so they're pretty
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: stressed up. So like, hope he doesn't like turn the gun,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: like say, oh my god, you guys did this and everything,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: but he's going yeah, So but everybody gets out, Riley
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: gets out, nothing happens. They inspected the car and found
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the gun, which matched the one stolen from his grandfather. Now.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: In the pillowcase, they also found a black hoodie, black pants,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and a black baseball cap, which was the outfit that
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: was used to scare Emma that day. Walking in the neighborhood,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Riley was arrested and placed on house arrest.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: House arrest really, yes, I don't know.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I think he was like eighteen or something.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Here's your ankle monitor. We're gonna arrest you for murder.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: They don't do anything crazy and run away.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know why he was placed on house dress Stewart,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't. You can research that for next week, okay. Anyways.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: On April thirtieth, twenty eighteen, Riley Goll's trial began. The
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: defense argued that while Riley did shoot the gun, he
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: did not mean to harm Emma. It was meant to
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: scare her.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what they couldn't They had too much evidence, Like,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: obviously he shot the gun, but they're going to try
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to argue that he just wanted to frighten her or whatever.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: The prosecution argued that the shots were calculated and meant
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to kill Emma. On May eighth, twenty eighteen, Riley was
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: found guilty up first degree murder. Stalking, reckless, endangerment, theft,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: and tampering with evidence, and he was sentenced to fifty
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: one years in prison.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's not getting out.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the reckless and danger I mean.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: He woke it out. I mean, he'll only be like
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: sixty sixty, probably sixty, Stuart, Why does it have to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: be He'll be seventy anyways, But so, yeah, I mean
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I can't believe he was able to It's crazy how
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: he was able to shoot twice and actually kill her.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. And from the outside of the house he
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: was able to do that. You know, that's crazy, Stuart.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to you.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: You can't just shake your head. They don't get can't
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: hear a shake. Okay. Anyways, all right, well that's our
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: episode for this week. Stu. Do you have a y'all
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: need you? Oh?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Of course I do.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, you need a hurry because I'm fading fast. I know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I'm really tired, okay, and I got to get up
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: in the morning for what life I have to work tomorrow? Steing.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, people, I'm staying up late. Well I would
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go. I had a fifteen No, it's
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: eleven PM, and I had the opportunity to go to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: bed at like eight forty five because the baby went
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to sleep. You were in there with the two crazies
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: getting them to go to sleep, and uh, yeah, that's
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: their new thing right now too. Is they used to
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: go in there and just lay down, and you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes they'd get like rowdy or whatever, but they go
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to sleep. Now the new thing is is STU has
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: to go like sit in the room with them so
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: they'll stay in their bed and not act.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: A full yes, because wwe and there every night.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we can't separate them because then they.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Get times and someone starts crying.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: But we can't separate themough because then they get upset
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: if they're not together anyways. But okay, Stu, where's your
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: ye only Jesus.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: A naked man gives cops a crazy excuse for breaking
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: into a home Florida or not Florida, Florida. Okay, coming
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to us from one O one wrif. I don't even
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: know where that is. I think it's in Detroit, Michigan.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: From the author's James Dave and Chuck the Freak. I
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: don't know what this is.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Chuck the freak.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just reading the headline August eighteenth,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Sounds like some stuff from CSS motions.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Sounds sounds like some god knows what. We talk a
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: lot about criminals committing crime is being committed in the
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: nude on the show. I guess it is a morning
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: talk show or something. It's the Wackie Zoo crew.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I hate, I hate. I would rather, like, I don't
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: even know. I'd rather listen to kids screaming in the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: back seat than listen to a morning a radio like
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: in the Wow Like No, like the DJ's in the
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: morning Timeline. Not the ones that do like the longer
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: shows or whatever, but the yeah, the morning radio people.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Like that, like Waldon Johnson.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: No, like the in between them, the in between like
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: playing music, local radio host, Oh my god, the wacky zucher, Yeah, alcoholic,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and they're always trying to come with some crazy story
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever, kind of like a y'all need.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm stealing it from them, I guess.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Typically the nudity has something to do with drug abuse,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: but this time the excuse the naked intruder gave cops
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: is crazy. According to our report, The man is facing
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: multiple charges after police say he broke into a random
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Phoenix home. Okay, so the morning shows in Detroit, the
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: crime is in Phoenix.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Well that makes sense.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Home while naked over the weekend, a house occupied by
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: several children. The suspect, sixty eight year old Eugene Howard Shelton,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: reportedly told investigators he did it because and alligator was
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: chasing him. Mama said, don't be messing with that alligator
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: in Phoenix.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That's quite the feat for the alligator.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: They might have got out of the zoom, out of
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the gata pharm. The report also states that the children
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: tried to refuse to let Shelton into the house. One
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: of the kids even hit Shelton on the hand with
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: an iron before he forced the door open. The kids
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: called their father, who is nearby, and rushed home. Why
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: was there no adult in miss house?
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: The kids? I don't know, Well, the kids might have
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: been teenagers.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Well, they called their father who is nearby, a rushed
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: home to find Shelton in the house, sitting on the
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: couch wearing only socks. Oh god, and not a sock
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: where you need one either. Now you're going to burn
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: the couch that's what's depressing.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: You literally could never like the couch is done forever
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and clean, the couch is done.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: When police arrived, they found Shelton lane in the driveway
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: with the father standing next to him. They found his
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: boxers and a fanny pack with some pills inside near
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the front door of the home. And stay on the couch,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I asked, juice on the couch? Shelton admitted, So gross
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: is yeah? I mean, what are we talking here, august
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: in Phoenix? You how sweaty is that ass? Shelton admitted
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: to officers that he had smoked some meth earlier. You
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: think that's messed up. Shelton was arrested on charges including burglary,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: indecent exposure, and resisting arrest.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: And he should have to pay for the couch to
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: and the cleaning of the home. Wow, those kids are
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: gonna remember that story.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: You can't even use that as a long couch.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: No, you can't use it at all. It needs to
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: be earned anyways. All right, Well that's our y'all need Jesus.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: That's our case for the week out of Tennessee. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: we'll try to get one of these out every week.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: But again, if these children will cooperate. It's very difficult
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: with all these children.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Three children. One on the way.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: We don't have one on the way, Steward Jesus Christ,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: we do not have one on the way. Everybody yet
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Stewart stop, Oh my god, what is wrong with you?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: You know you can't keep your hands off this girl?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, I can trust me. I can't. You would keep
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: your micro floppy disc on that side of the room. Okay,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: all right, So that's it. Do anything else.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Unless you want to talk about storry awakes in Europe.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: No I don't, because it's eleven twelve at nine. Follow
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: us on Facebook, Follow us on Instagram. Check out the Patreon.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: TikTok while you can.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: TikTok, while you can talk on the clock. Everybody you
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: know they own they owed Kesha back pay for the name.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: You are a sad human?
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Why this is?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: This is?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: If there's anything that shows our age difference, is that
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: you don't know who Kesha is.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: And you didn't know who Brian Johnson is. And while
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: we had to stop and see Asass in Belgium.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, that was stupid that we
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: had to pull up and I was like, I was
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: trying to be nice, but like I can get out
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and take your photos.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: It was nighttime. Wait, our trip was not very well planned.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: No, that was on your part.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Well it was what it was.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Anyways, So you you don't know kesh is, you're not
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: going to know the reference where Janelle was like I
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: put feathers in my hair, go to the Kesh concert.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: She's from Teen mom one of the I think she
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: was on Teen Moms. No, that was fair. Yes, anyways,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: that reminds me of that. We got into that whole
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Like there's a lot that's happened since we've been on here.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: But remember the girl that slept with the hundred guys.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: We got into the.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Whole thing about like the logistics of it, and she's
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: trying to do a thousand.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: And her parents are her agents, yes.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Are in charge of her anyways.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: That's whole other thing.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Well no, but then we talked about it's worse just
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: some Yeah. So then if your daughter's already going to
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: do this, are you going to just like let her
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: out there to the wolves? Are you going to try
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to protect her as much as you can? I don't know, it.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Would be great, honey, After a hunter, guys, we go
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: for a thousand.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Well, she's doing a test run with three hundred, supposedly Jesus,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I think right now, like sometime in this timeframe, and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: then a thousand was January. But they were talking about
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: having to have fluffers and like basically like I found
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I found. I mean, I find it disturbing for this
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: girl that she's doing this, but I also found it.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I had questions of the logistics of it all, like
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: how did you make it through this mini?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: If your podcasting career don't work out, you're just gonna
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: do a novelty I can beat her record?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: No, because the guy they had, she had like a
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: documentary crew following her around, and the guy the camera
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: almost threw up when you because they interviewed her right
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: after she did the hundred, and he like walks in
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the room and the guy almost threw up. No, I
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: did not want to follow in her, uh her footsteps.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: So all right, Well that's all a.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Lot of spunk. Well I'm saying she's got a lot
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: of spunk.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Gross all right, So that's it. I'm sorry if you
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: had to listen to this, but you chose to be here,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: so all right, see you next time. Bye everyone, Say bye. Stuck.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Don't you know it's bad to be superstitious. Find nothing
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: else is working, and it's really learning and sick.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: It's worry. I can