Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Mark Mitchell: Police Minister on new police recruits
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We've got trouble with new police recruits. A survey of
- 0:02Speaker 1: senior officers released of The Herald says graduates are barely
- 0:05Speaker 1: equipped to arrest or lay charges. Eighty three percent of
- 0:08Speaker 1: respondents reckon that they can't even handle the paperwork properly.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Mark Mitchell as Police Minister and joins me. Now Minister,
- 0:15Speaker 1: good morning, Heay, good morning Ryan. Are we pumping out
- 0:18Speaker 1: half baked cops?
- 0:20Speaker 2: No? I don't think we're definitely not pumping out half
- 0:23Speaker 2: baked police officers. But it's always been the case that
- 0:27Speaker 2: they do. Obviously, they do their twenty weeks. Now I return,
- 0:30Speaker 2: I increase the courses from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks,
- 0:33Speaker 2: as Zenoy Minister, and then they have two years probationary
- 0:37Speaker 2: where they get to all be on the job supervision
- 0:40Speaker 2: and training that they need to become world class police officers.
- 0:44Speaker 2: And we have a world class police service has no
- 0:46Speaker 2: doubt about that. It's good that the police are always
- 0:49Speaker 2: testing themselves, that they're having honest conversation, that they're identifying
- 0:53Speaker 2: where there needs to be improvement. My expectation is where
- 0:56Speaker 2: they identify that, then they make the changes.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Is fifty five percent of the senior officers feeling that
- 1:03Speaker 1: the new bees were barely or not at all well
- 1:07Speaker 1: equipped with knowledge of the procedures for making an arrest
- 1:10Speaker 1: and laying charges world class.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about probationary constables. You're talking about constables
- 1:17Speaker 2: that are coming out on the job. They see your
- 1:20Speaker 2: polessing is a very unique job where you have to test,
- 1:22Speaker 2: where you get tested, and a whole range of areas,
- 1:24Speaker 2: physically making decisions under pressure, all that sort of thing.
- 1:27Speaker 2: It's unrealistic to expect them to come out being experienced
- 1:30Speaker 2: police officers. They are rookies. They need strong supervision, they
- 1:34Speaker 2: need guidance when they come out on the street. They
- 1:36Speaker 2: are probationary constables for two years, so they're still being
- 1:39Speaker 2: tested for another two years once they graduated from the college.
- 1:43Speaker 2: But the good thing is that is that they're identified
- 1:46Speaker 2: so that our senior field trainers, who absolutely provide critical
- 1:50Speaker 2: feedback to the college are saying that there's some areas
- 1:54Speaker 2: that need will focus my expectations, the police will recognize
- 1:57Speaker 2: that and I'll make the changes. When I was in opposition,
- 2:00Speaker 2: I was highlighting this and continually with the previous government
- 2:04Speaker 2: not to drop standards to maintain standards as the income
- 2:08Speaker 2: and government. We had a big focus on that. Yes
- 2:10Speaker 2: we had a target set, but if I was solely
- 2:13Speaker 2: focused on the target, I wouldn't have increased the training
- 2:17Speaker 2: course from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks.
- 2:19Speaker 1: But yeah, but you also ministered to increase the wing
- 2:23Speaker 1: size from eighty to one hundred. You do have a
- 2:26Speaker 1: target with New Zealand first week.
- 2:27Speaker 2: No, it's not correct, that's not correct, right. The wing
- 2:30Speaker 2: sizes are not one hundred. Every wing size, winder size size,
- 2:33Speaker 2: it was like that. Well, some of them are seventy,
- 2:36Speaker 2: some of them are less, some of them are more.
- 2:38Speaker 3: But so you didn't move to increase the wing size.
- 2:42Speaker 2: We moved to increase the capacity of the college to
- 2:45Speaker 2: be able to train. To fund that, so you saw, yes,
- 2:48Speaker 2: of course we funded it, so massive funding.
- 2:51Speaker 1: It's the problem here with the training or with the
- 2:54Speaker 1: candidates that are getting in, because we know there's been
- 2:56Speaker 1: problems there too.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Well, you know that.
- 2:59Speaker 2: There's been a big focus on standards and quality of
- 3:01Speaker 2: training by this government. You know that we're not going
- 3:03Speaker 2: to compromise. We've been very clear and said we're not
- 3:06Speaker 2: going to compromise on the settings of targets. We want
- 3:09Speaker 2: to deliver five hundred diditional police.
- 3:13Speaker 3: If there's a result of that, it's not a great outcome.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Is it.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I mean, yes, we want more cops, but we want
- 3:18Speaker 1: more good cops.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I just want to say again that come
- 3:22Speaker 2: along to a graduation meet. These police officers are some
- 3:25Speaker 2: of the best. Keywis that we've got to put themselves
- 3:27Speaker 2: forward for service and difficult to.
- 3:30Speaker 3: The media senior officers saying this about them.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Then, because the police as an organization that tests itself hard,
- 3:37Speaker 2: they realize that they have to maintain the higher standards.
- 3:41Speaker 2: That's exactly what the field officers are doing. They're guiding them,
- 3:43Speaker 2: they're training them, but they're making sure they identify where
- 3:47Speaker 2: we could be doing better. And any organization should be
- 3:50Speaker 2: looking for continual improvement. The police is no different. In fact,
- 3:53Speaker 2: it's critically important for the police. Yes, as the incoming Mitister,
- 3:57Speaker 2: I recognized the fact that we needed to work on
- 4:00Speaker 2: standards on trading. That's why as the incoming Minister, I
- 4:05Speaker 2: supported moving our recruit training course from sixteen weeks to
- 4:08Speaker 2: twenty weeks. I increased that by four weeks. That wasn't
- 4:11Speaker 2: going to help us deliver our five hundred, but I
- 4:13Speaker 2: felt it was very important to do in terms of standards.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Mark Mental Police Minister.
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