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- Catie Fitzgerald: Welcome back to From 9 to Mom. Danielle: where we discuss balancing the 95 hustle with the beautiful chaos that we call motherhood. Catie Fitzgerald: And this week we're both back from vacation. Yay. Maybe, maybe I guess. But I think we both have been through the ups and downs of eating on vacation and having the kids eat through vacation. ⁓ like, I'm just sick of making food, making decisions about food, thinking about food for everyone. It's frustrating right now. Danielle: Rejuvenated. Yeah. Correct. we've talked briefly about this in other episodes, but I've officially entered the era of very picky eating. And vacation, you don't have all the stuff that you normally ⁓ And we up going to the same restaurant three times. Two reasons. One, ⁓ it 90 daycare. So the kids want go there. They wanted to play at the playground, ⁓ which is the daycare. So Jordan and had three nights of 90 minutes, a free. ⁓ Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, it was good. Okay. Danielle: babysitting at this ridiculously large grocery store restaurant in Naples. don't know if you remember Oaks. opened like Seed to Table. ⁓ But only wanted the, it was bucatini and meatballs and that's all they wanted to eat. But this is where it gets dicey is Colton has decided to become a vegetarian. And Catie Fitzgerald: Okay. This is just crazy. Danielle: Bless his little heart. I have tons of vegetarian friends that I've already reached out to. He doesn't want to eat animals, but here's the problem. He also doesn't want to eat legumes or tofu protein of any ⁓ kind. He's eating nothing. So he eat meatballs or chicken, but he's under the impression, and this is not my fault. I'm not the one who started it, but I have continued it and I'm starting to feel guilty and this is where I need help. He thinks they're vegetarian. Catie Fitzgerald: I know. Yes. Well, I think this is like the healthy line of like, where do you, where do you draw the line at things? it's, it's hard because it's, unfortunately, this lie is for his health. Like he is a growing boy. Like he needs protein and things to like keep him ⁓ Danielle: and I feel that. Yes. And I bought all the things. The second he told me he was going to be a vegetarian, I went out. I reached out to everyone. I bought all the alternatives and the supplements, took them to the doctor. The doctor told them we're supposed to eat meat. I was like, listen, he doesn't want to eat meat. I'm going to help him. But he won't eat any of those other things. So like you said, I can't not give him the nutrients he wants. It affects his behavior, his growth, all those things. So what do do? Catie Fitzgerald: Yes, it's not like you're not being supportive and being like, ha ha ha. Yeah, this is a hard thing because it's like, obviously the picky eating comes from as they can make more conscious decisions of what they're eating. And like it's like the picky eating of like, feel like Jack's age is like the prime time of it of like, he only wants peanut butter and jelly or chicken nuggets. Like he's unwilling to try new things like that aren't the usual so, or that don't taste good. But now like Colton's like, Danielle: Yep. Yes. Yep. Catie Fitzgerald: building the awareness of what the food is. Like we haven't reached the point of like what is the food that I'm eating? it is interesting because neither you or Jordan, like where did he learn it from? He learned it from some. Danielle: would eat. Well, I'm an animal lover, as you know, and a lot of my good friends are vegetarian. So I eat a lot of interesting food because of them. And I love eating unique vegetarian food. That's not the issue. It's, I wonder that he overheard someone when they were here he decided that he didn't want to eat. It started like we were eating chicken and he started crying, legitimately crying. Catie Fitzgerald: Right? Danielle: And he was like, I love chicken, it's so delicious, but they're my best friends. And this is my fault because we get those chickens every year. And he's like, I don't want to eat my friends. So I don't want to eat meat anymore. And then I don't know if one of us said vegetarian or he said, I want to be a vegetarian. So that's how it started. And Daisy will eat anything. Literally, she's a garbage person, will eat. And that's how Colton used to be. He'd eat oysters, sushi, it didn't matter. He'd eat everything. Catie Fitzgerald: Right. It's that's but that's where like they're at the they're at the page the stage where it's like they're willing to just try stuff like they don't know what there is like as long as you make it regular. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Danielle: Yeah, and if they don't like it, they spit it out, but they'll try it. And I think Daisy's learning a little bit from Colton with the snacks and stuff like that. But this is one of those adventures where you're like, I don't even know how to navigate through it. And if it were up to him, he'd only eat snacks. I don't know if you guys are like that, like on crustables and chips candy. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. uncrossable. So there's I feel we've had guests here, just other people that you talk to and everyone has different eating habits, whether it's like as the adults and you know, for their kids, you know, it starts from like the choices of baby led weaning verse, you know, do you, are you going to cut up their stuff? Do you home make their purees? Do you buy like, there's so many decisions that you can make along the way. And then you get to a certain your age and you're like, Danielle: Yes. Catie Fitzgerald: None of that mattered, first of all. None of it mattered. They still are picky, like even if they like tried, went through the chart and picked out everything that you're supposed to try at nine months old and you you tried it all and now they still want those things. But then you like get to a point too where they want snacks constantly. And I'm like, okay, I have two boys. Like I know that I need to feed them. Like I have to keep stuff rolling. But then it's like, if I don't have Danielle: Everything I did didn't matter enough. Catie Fitzgerald: I was actually going to make a video of it. If I don't have one of those snack trays that I share, however many times I shared, like consistently on the weekends, like I am feeling that every morning, sometimes again in the afternoon. Danielle: Ready to go. Well, you're better than me because you're taking the time to make the snack trays so they have options. I just have a bin of stuff in the fridge. Daisy likes to pick stuff out of the fridge, but I laid out fruit and stuff, they would definitely eat it. But that's where it also gets challenging is they won't eat all the stuff. But if you lay it out, they will snack on better, healthier things than if you just have it in baggies. But you're saying on the weekend, which makes sense. But during the week, we're bare. Catie Fitzgerald: That's great. Danielle: We're working constantly, all hours of the day, the night, whatever, trying to be good parents. I told Katie this earlier today, but I got an email from school asking, Colton's already getting to school at 720 a.m. They want him there earlier so he can have more time. School starts at 735 to get his breakfast and get settled in, and it's like, okay, how do you make a kid who doesn't want to wake up in the first place a well-balanced meal, cut up the vegetables, cut up the fruit, and everyone says, oh, do it before. It always gets weird. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Danielle: then they won't eat it because it's weird. And then you're like, screw it. I'm going to do the best I can with go-go squeeze and whatever else I can throw in this pouch. And I feel like it got worse after the beach. I don't know if you feel that way. Catie Fitzgerald: then it doesn't come home. Yeah, the beach it's like, you know, get a public sub and like ever the kids get on crustables and you bring whatever and like everyone eats it and it's fun. But yeah, they don't know the difference of those things. the other thing is like, so he's eating his meals at school during the week, which is good because they give him the balanced, you know, they try but like, it still isn't the best food like ⁓ Danielle: What? Yeah, cause Jack buys, right? Like Jack wants to buy lunch, Colton doesn't. So I'm packing, you're buying. Catie Fitzgerald: Yes, and I'm like, God, first of all. it comes down to the difference of like, I'd be giving him an uncrustable every day or a grilled cheese, or gets the peanut butter and jelly that's at school and every now and then he'll try some other stuff. Like the other day he came home and told us that he ate a salad. And we're like, you would never touch that but maybe he did. I don't know. ⁓ There's way to know either what they eat. Danielle: Amen. Well, I found out from Colton's school that he was eating everything. Like things he would not eat at home, he was eating everything there. And this was at daycare. His daycare had two chefs and they made everything healthy. It was the best decision we made. He ate so well there. And he'd be like, it's better. It's better there. And we're sitting here like, can I hire those chefs? Cause you're eating way more vegetables and fruit and protein there. Cause they're hiding it in unique ways, but they're getting smarter. Catie Fitzgerald: right. And now it's like Okay Right. Right. Well, that's where like, it comes down to like, on the weekends, I try to make a snack tray. Like literally this was just this weekend. Like we're coming off of that. I don't do that every weekend. I can't possibly keep enough fruit. Like I can't possibly keep enough fruit in the house. But then like the things that my kids like to snack on. Chewy granola bars. Not the best, but they're okay. The Z bars are sometimes a hit. Sometimes they go amiss here. like Teddy grams. Danielle: We're gonna pretend you do. You Love them. Z bars. My kids love the click z bars or whatever. Catie Fitzgerald: not good for you. Scooby Sack, yes. Or the Paw Patrol, like any of the like, graham crackery bears. We usually like fruit gummies. Like Danielle: Who is next? If this house continues. was off. Usually, that's the thing. I've bought the wrong fruit gummies and then it's like chaos. Catie Fitzgerald: don't get them. they have tried they have eaten the Annie's little bunnies of the fruit snacks. ⁓ because I'm trying to get them away from the other stuff that's like just straight sugar and dye that, like, ⁓ would have never thought twice about if I didn't get all this input from ⁓ of the things. And then like for lunches, they just want on crustables and chips, like that's what they want. And I'm like, Danielle: Yep. Yeah. No, Colton wants peanut butter jelly, peanut butter jelly on crustables, chips, exactly the same thing. Daisy will eat salad. She'll eat so much healthier, but also it's hard to pack that. I got a note from her school being like, Daisy does not like her peanut butter and jelly. We will warm food up here. I'm like, so now I have to make, now Jordan and I are making two different, completely different lunches. So it's not even like I could do like. Catie Fitzgerald: Good girl. She wants a hot lunch, sir. Danielle: We were making it all at once. got all the snacks ready. You made the sandwiches. We had a rhythm. And now we can't even make the same sandwiches or food for the kids because they don't even like the same stuff. So now I'm sitting here double the cost, right? Because that is a part of it. The financial aspect is insane. Catie Fitzgerald: because. Yeah. Keeping the things in the house is, yeah. And then you try to get the healthy version of things, right? Like if you went and tried to get a healthy version of anything. Danielle: Yeah. We both them thrive market, which I love. Catie Fitzgerald: And I have done, I'm trying not to do it all the time, but like every now and then, but then the other thing with that stuff, it's like, yeah, it's healthy because it comes with three chips in the bag and I paid double the price. So of course it's healthier because there's only three chips. Danielle: Yeah. Well, and then they want more and more and more and the 12 pack is gone in two days instead of 12 days. Catie Fitzgerald: I'm like, this is not realistic. Yes. So it's like, how does that? like, where do you where do you find the line of like what you give them? And and then at some point you break down and like they just literally haven't eaten anything. I need to get something in them. Danielle: Yes, because their behavior, that part is true. They get so hangry or emotional the sugar spikes do have an impact. Everyone I've talked to really does see that. ⁓ And don't think we did, we've talked about crunchy moms versus with everything and it doesn't matter. I feel like you can get so much advice from all different sources. People have different experiences with their kids. We have different experiences with the same kid over time. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Danielle: So like, don't, I only feel like I'm feeding the same kid. And that's where it gets challenging because you think that you're doing the right things and you're trying all the stuff. go to Sam's Club even, find all the healthy versions, buy a ⁓ pack. And then two days later, they don't like that kind anymore. And you're giving it away for free on Facebook Marketplace. Catie Fitzgerald: We do. And then you. It's like that with fruit even. So like all of a sudden they'll only want apples. Now all of a sudden they only want mandarin oranges. Now they only want blackberries. ⁓ Jack doesn't like blackberries now. He wants raspberries. He wants blackberries. So keep them separate. Like you can't keep up with how their like mood changes through all of it. And yeah. And then I'm like, I can't. And then to even factor in like preparing our own food. Danielle: no, it's exhausting! Catie Fitzgerald: I'm like at the end of this, like, I guess I'm eating the other half of the ungraspable. Like has time to meal prep after I've made a snack tray 16 times on the weekend. ⁓ Danielle: Which we don't do. You don't and you don't have time to meal prep. You don't have time to eat healthy. I just eat whatever scraps are left over. And now Daisy, like even at the beach, we made our own sandwiches and Colton wanted his uncrustables or peanut butter and jelly. Daisy was eating uncrustables. But then every day at the beach for like three days in a row, she would go from my sandwich to Jordan's sandwich, which was like Turkey and cheese and whatever. So we started having to like. I made my own sandwich, but I couldn't even eat my sandwich, because Daisy ate both of our sandwiches and we're both starving, because it doesn't matter what I pack them, they want what I'm eating. Catie Fitzgerald: want whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it's, seen like people are like the biggest hack is just whatever you want them to eat, put it on your plate. And then they're like, and Kelvin's the one that does that. Jack doesn't ever look at twice at what we're doing. like look over and what is that? Danielle: Yeah. Because he's too old. That's the thing. Colton Jack do not fall into this category anymore. They got their own brains. They're at school, ⁓ of other kids. And gotten some good advice from other moms, like I was talking to them. Goudles, if your kids need protein, goudles, because it's mac and cheese, but he only likes the one kind. ⁓ But I would take advice from anyone at this point who has picky eaters, especially if your kid wasn't Catie Fitzgerald: No. ⁓ yeah. You only want graph. Danielle: Always a Fickey Eater. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, because I think it's also something too of if you had child that's a vegetarian that was choice by the family because obviously they adopt at first they're going to adopt the family's eating habits. So if ⁓ you're vegan, like you're only going to feed them vegan meals and that's the way they're going to learn and that's fine. It's different when it's like you've been feeding him one way and now he's made a decision and now you're like, wait, how do I Danielle: Yes. Catie Fitzgerald: This isn't how I eat. So like I'm aware of some things, but now I don't know any of the tricks to try because just I have to tell him these chicken nuggets are vegetarian chicken nuggets so that he'll eat. Danielle: Yeah, I don't even know what... Like I would eat and so Daisy, bowl of chickpeas with vinegar on it. Colton won't touch a chickpea. So that's not very, like he needs to eat. It's just not very helpful. And I talked to Jordan, like maybe we should eat, when we cook, we try and cook like twice a week a vegetarian dinner together that we like. But Jordan is like, Jordan and Daisy are gonna eat the steak off the cow at this point. So it's not effective to try that. Catie Fitzgerald: Yes. make them. you Well, yeah, I get that because Calvin is in his hot dog phase. We're having actually a hot dog themed birthday party next month for him. But he like the past three months, it's been thing that he wants. Yeah, he'll love that. He ⁓ takes him straight down. He doesn't want to bun nothing. He just wants to eat the dog. Danielle: I love this. I did not know this. You know I love wieners. Can I get him a hot dog costume for his birthday? Yeah, I know. He's just like sucking glizzies down, done. Catie Fitzgerald: many glizzies. me and Ryan have just hit so many comments about like, the office when they're having the hot dog eating. We're like, dip it in water, it'll slide down your gullet. ⁓ he's funny with it. But he just takes it out and eats it. But he wants you to serve, you have to serve him the bun. And then he, yeah, yeah. Want to eat it with it, yeah. ⁓ Danielle: It's fine. ⁓ my God. That is amazing. But that's... It's protein. Oh, he wants the presentation. He just doesn't want to eat that piece. It's a good thing because he's getting all the protein without, you know, the additional. Catie Fitzgerald: But then let's so then all the things I'm looking at I'm like, okay, I can't just feed him hot dogs every day like How much crap is in it? I know Yeah Danielle: Because we look at too much stuff. That's the problem too. We're so over educated at this point, which is great that we know way more than our parents did, but like everything they eat, you're like, ⁓ there's nitrates, there's too much sodium, there's. Catie Fitzgerald: There's apps to tell you, you scan. I know people that scan every single thing that they eat. And it's like, know, but like, what am I supposed to do? Like he wants a hot dog. So like, we're going to try to do like some chicken dogs and like some things. I bought chicken sausage this week to try. Danielle: likes hot dogs. You'll to let me know how it goes. Did you ever as a kid, this is just, this is nothing to do with picky eating, one of my favorite meals as a kid was when my mom would make Kraft mac and cheese and cut up Oscar Mayer wieners and put them in the and cheese. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. So I didn't, my staff, my older sister loved that, but I just ate the mac and cheese regular. I actually went through a big phase where I didn't eat cheese at all when I was little. Danielle: That is absolutely like blasphemy like to me. I just can't imagine a time. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, I was like, I got like really grossed out by cheese for the longest time. also probably from like eighth grade to the time I was a senior only ate chicken Caesar salads. That was like the only thing I would eat. Danielle: That was like your only choice of food. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, like if we went anywhere, like I had to get a chicken Caesar salad. You know how sensitive I am to like my stomach and like things and I think it was part of that. Like I just knew that I could eat, I could eat that. Danielle: I went through a phase. You were, I did the same thing when I met Jordan for a couple of reasons. One, I wanted to like look like a demure little angel. Two, I did not want to poop anywhere, like anywhere. So I wouldn't eat and I would order, he loved it because I'd order a meal and then he would get to eat it. And then when he really met, like figured out that I do eat, but I ate that period of life was probably like three or four years. It went into college because I don't know if you're like dining hall. Catie Fitzgerald: I just eat salads. That was not what I was doing. That's what I think more. Yeah. Yeah. Danielle: I would eat tuna fish with mustard with nothing else chickpeas and vinegar. And I'd put feta cheese or like shredded cheese from the salad bar on it. And I lived on that for years, years. Catie Fitzgerald: So my go-to was that I would go to our dining hall and do a, I would go to the salad bar, do a set. They did like, it wasn't a salad bar. It was like, you had to order it and they'd mix it for you. So like, I would do that. And then I'd get grilled chicken. So I'd get like two pieces of grilled chicken and the salad with just oil and vinegar on it or a Caesar. And like, that's the things that I would, that was pretty much it. I'd get. Danielle: Okay, that was kind of cool. Boogie. Remember back then when we would just eat healthy and Catie Fitzgerald: And then sometimes I get like a bowl of spaghetti. used to go, they had like the same every week, like there were themes to the week, like the days. like, so like Monday was always, Monday was always steak night. And then like Wednesday was like burger day. There's somebody will remember from Fredonia, the other ones. And then Friday was always cheesy Friday. And it was like girl cheese, mac and cheese at every dining hall on campus. Yes. Yeah. It was like a short. Danielle: I'm trying to remember, I can't remember. Did you eat cheese at that point? So that was a good night for you. Catie Fitzgerald: It was like a short period of like no cheese. Danielle: When we moved off campus, that's when we started eating like absolute garbage people. It was like a box of Franzia and taco dip for dinner. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, because you're like, OK, wait, I have a couple dollars. Yeah, you're like, I have a couple bucks. Like, can go. I have a car. can go through drive through like. Danielle: This is fine. We're gonna survive. And then we think about, we ate all that stuff. Who knows what this... Catie Fitzgerald: It's too late at this point, right? Like, you ate that, like... Danielle: It's too late for us. We're trying to be better for our kids, but we grew up in an era where we ate all that stuff. We're okay. We're fine. Catie Fitzgerald: I know. Then you see the videos though of people being like, look at the, yeah, back when we were kids, look at the ingredients that were in Gatorade. Now look at the ingredients that are in Gatorade today. Like it's different than just 10 years ago. Danielle: It is different and they've had, there's so many additives and being gluten free and everyone getting upset with me, but like there's, that wasn't always in all the food, right? So it's just gotten, they're trying to make more with less good ingredients over time. Cause then obviously of capitalism and money and all that stuff. And we're the only country, not the only country we are known for not being as stringent about our rules. So we have to be even more careful with the kids, but I feel like the constant like, Catie Fitzgerald: ... Danielle: feedback and inundation of information and all that makes it difficult. And then as your kids get older, like we're talking about, they have more opinions and you want them to eat things they like. You don't want them to have an unhealthy relationship with food. You don't want to lie and say they're vegan chicken nuggets or whatever, like he's got it forever. He's got to eat something or he's going to turn into a mush. Catie Fitzgerald: Right. Forever. Well, you also don't know. You don't know if this is going to be short term. Like maybe he'll get over it. Like he's going to start getting really freaking hungry. Danielle: Yes, and that's what my concern is. and if they eat a, the doctor says if they eat peanut butter jelly for every meal and a vegetable a fruit, they're fine. That's fine. They just need the balanced food groups. But I to able to send him on way and his journey and be able to go places and not have my kid be at people's houses being like, yeah, no. Catie Fitzgerald: Or yeah, like Gafferbitty went on a sleepover and just doesn't eat the whole 24 hours he's there. Danielle: Yeah, yesterday night, I'm not kidding, his stomach grumbled. He was so hungry because he didn't eat dinner. didn't eat what we had. And I will always give him food if he's hungry because he's ginormous because his stomach was like growling. Like I ⁓ audibly could hear how hungry he was. So we ended up eating again. But it's like now we're eating at nine thirty because you didn't eat enough protein to hold you over our thirty meal. I don't know. I'm exhausted. It's another full time job. Catie Fitzgerald: It is such a hard balance though, because we've had that where like Jack will come down the stairs at like 8.30, 8.45 and be like, I'm hungry. Or the most recent thing he's done is like, we try not to do this, but like we try to eat with the kids during the week. I'm talking weekends are different, but sometimes like we'll just, we'll eat after they go to bed. Cause they're still going to bed at 7.45, eight o'clock. like we can, it's not great, but we sometimes you have to. And Danielle: Sing. Yes. Catie Fitzgerald: So then like if we're cooking something that smells, he comes down the stairs, what smells so good? I'm hungry. And I'm like, we don't like, you know how us with our routines, like we don't get, if he ate enough at dinner, I'm like, okay, I wouldn't. But then I always am like guilty immediately after I'm like, did I just let him go to bed hungry? Like you think so much about it. And I'm like, no, he's fine. He did eat a chicken nugget. Like he ate. Danielle: You will? That's so funny. Catie Fitzgerald: the dessert or what like he ate, he ate stuff, but you just feel guilty because he's like, I'm hungry. And then you have to decipher, is it just a ploy to get out of bedtime or is he actually hungry? Danielle: Yes. Well, that's the biggest question. Are we trying to get out of bed, going to bed, or are we actually hungry? And I think for me, was when he would start like, huge, Jack's getting big too. And I asked the doctor about it he's like, if he's hungry, like if he's truly hungry, like you'll know. And it was, like I said, I could hear his stomach growl and he'd start crying. It wasn't like, I want to extend. So now we always have a snack and a water in the world. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like he's Danielle: so that if he's hungry, it's there. we're not like getting up going to get like the extension isn't existing. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. No, it's just so hard to be able to tell. And then you're like, I don't want to build bad habits. And then it's like, I don't know, like how do you know? Danielle: Everything is, I'm learning that everything is like you're creating behaviors. No matter what you do, good or bad, everything we do is creating a behavior. And I think sometimes a working family, when two people work, you're already trying to balance your two schedules. Then your kids are different ages. They're in different schools. Both of us are in that place where our kids are not in the same daycares or school. And you're balancing two jobs. or more, two kids or more, yourself and your own needs. that's where it becomes very difficult to like, you're a routine person, but it is difficult to build routines and behaviors when things are constantly changing and you're constantly running. And it's to the point where you're like, do we stop everything? Because every extracurricular puts a kink in the plan. They're getting a snack at soccer, right? Colton's getting Like it depends on what you're doing. So I feel like it makes it even more challenging because it's the consistency is just so difficult to build. Catie Fitzgerald: It is, and we're gonna enter, then it's like, yeah, you're saying like, your routine lasts for like a max month and a half, and then something happens, somebody gets sick, somebody, like the different of ⁓ the of year or whatever it is. So like summer coming up, or even just sports starting for us. Like we have had one night a week right now, but we're gonna go to three nights a week, somebody's got something. And it's now practice is for us. Danielle: Mm-hmm. Catie Fitzgerald: Two nights a week are 6.30 to 7.30. We're usually in the bath at 7.30. Danielle: Yes, and that changes every because now you're pushing everything back an hour and there's no way around it because sports go till that late. That's what's happening with Golden and even Daisy. Now we'll be doing dance at night and it's just ⁓ stuff into the mix where you can't keep the same pace and is difficult because they're not in school. So Jack's been ordering lunch every day. He's not going to be ordering lunch. Catie Fitzgerald: No. Yeah. gonna I'm gonna have to pack it every day for summer camp and they're like there's no there's no refrigerator it has to be something that can live ours didn't say no peanut butter but Danielle: Right? And that's the other thing. No peanut butter, no peanuts. A lot of mine are like, no peanuts. So then it's sun butter, which the kids love sun butter, thank God. But it's another thing that you have to remember. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, that's bad. I will double check so that I'm not like the bad parent that sends peanut butter, but like, I don't, I truly don't know what he'll eat if I don't send peanut butter and jelly every day. Danielle: do, I think you have told me this, they do have some butter on crustables, like Target brand or whatever. So just a heads up. Catie Fitzgerald: ⁓ do they? I've been trying to find to like a better uncrossable than like the Smucker's uncrossable because those are good. But like, where's the like Danielle: They don't like them. I've tried the alternatives. They can tell the difference. It is ridiculous. Catie Fitzgerald: Is there like a healthy version though, like on whole wheat bread or like some? Danielle: Yeah, I think Target makes them. I bought them before. Catie Fitzgerald: I gotta go look, because I gotta try, right? Like I gotta try it, what if they like them? yeah. Danielle: Yeah, try it. Yeah, if anybody knows like, please listening, please tell us we want the healthier alternatives that aren't going to like, break the bank or make me like become Suzy homemaker overnight because I don't have it in me. Catie Fitzgerald: Great. someone just said to me, forget who said it. I like, I'd wish that there was like a better on Crestwood. And they're like, yeah, it's called making a mouth. And I was like, that's not the point. Like I want to buy them all done and I want to send it frozen. So then it's still like decent when he gets a lunch. Danielle: You're making them at home. I've made them at home, but I'm still using grape jelly. Catie Fitzgerald: I, my mom brought, my mom brought me the press that like makes them into it on crustable. And yeah, you gotta like, you gotta buy healthy. It's just too much. Danielle: Me too! What's healthier? Tell me what I can put in there that makes it healthy. Catie Fitzgerald: I already don't have time in the morning and now I got to make a fresh uncrustable or I guess you could get into, but then like, how do I have time on the weekend to mass produce 15 uncrustables? Cause you know that there's going to be weeks where you have to send two. I had to start a little shop in my house to mass produce uncrustables. Like, you know what, here we go. Danielle: Listen, it's a side hustle. Start mass producing, healthy and crustables. Rochester, New York, if you're interested, Katie is going to have Katie's crustables or Katie's crust free creations and logo to be determined, but she's going to make them for all of you. Catie Fitzgerald: From nine to mom, when crustables. That's it, we're gonna end it here and I'm gonna just go on my uncrossed the world making journey. Danielle: Yeah, I'll do Danny's delicious desserts and I'll make some like healthy desserts. Yeah, I'm gonna do, yeah, I'm gonna start a whole thing. Just wait. I just got the next thing so that I can take like video content when I'm doing stuff. will introduce some vegetarian cooking shows from a person who doesn't cook regular food. So this is gonna be good, really good. Catie Fitzgerald: Perfect. You got to make like a vegetarian brand or something. ⁓ my God. Vegetarian Cooking Channel. You and Jordan every night. And Jordan that cooks meat only. Danielle: Yep, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. So with that, we're open to suggestions because clearly we don't have it all figured out, but it's time for us to clock back into the nine to five so we can afford those uncrossables. See you later. Catie Fitzgerald: Never. We'll see you guys next time.