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What If Everything Happening To You Is Serving Your Soul? | Ann Jonas | Willow Healing Matters · Willow Healing Matters Podcast

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  Welcome to Willow Healing Matters the podcast we are so excited
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  to have you joining
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  us on this journey where we explore different ways to empower
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  your soul whether
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  it's healing in your kitchen or all the way up in the corporate
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  world come with us
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  SPEAKER_03: as we look into different ways to heal your mind body and soul
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  SPEAKER_01: My virtual obsession,
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  SPEAKER_01: This book explores the intersection of loneliness,
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  SPEAKER_01: love,
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  and how chasing perfection through technology can lead to
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  fantasy and reality
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  SPEAKER_01: colliding.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hey everyone,
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  it's Catherine Crestani with another episode of Willow Healing
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  Matters and today
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm joined by my lovely Anne Jonas aka the Love Messenger.
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  She is passionate about guiding and supporting those that
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  desire to become more of
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  SPEAKER_03: who they truly are.
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  She honors and recognizes that there is a transformational
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  journey of remembering
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  SPEAKER_03: that we are a spiritual being having an experience.
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  The journey of life involves lots of mud and she's familiar
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  with walking along the lotus path.
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  and she approaches her work from a holistic intuitive spiritual
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  perspective decades
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  of experience as a body worker and birth doula as well as a
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  lifetime of being in
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  service and always curious today her most powerful gift is
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  living as a being of
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  love and light offering transformational and perspective
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  guidance as an intuitive
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  SPEAKER_03: healer body worker channel shamanic
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  I appreciate having the opportunity to be a part of your world
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  and share in your field.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I feel straight away that keeps you showing me the mud and the lotus.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I didn't invent this concept.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really learned it from Thich Nhat Hanh,
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  SPEAKER_00: who essentially there's a quote,
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  SPEAKER_00: you can find no mud,
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  SPEAKER_00: no lotus.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the essence of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what does that mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: That means that the lotus plant itself, we're talking about the
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  SPEAKER_00: plant right now grows in the mud.
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  SPEAKER_00: So most time we see them in ponds, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, the foundation of a pond is like silt.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like this really wet, earthy substance.
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  And essentially the plant itself grows,
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  is germinated,
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  it grows and it dies in that space.
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  SPEAKER_00: How is that relevant?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why am I the lotus path?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why is this even an experience?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because what I know,
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  what I've learned and who I be is someone who recognizes that
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  our lives are built
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  SPEAKER_00: on mud,
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  SPEAKER_00: muck and poo.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's the deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are the challenges and the gifts because this is the piece.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is where I desire to have us take a switch and put a spin on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: That the traumas and the tragedies and the challenges of our life are
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  SPEAKER_00: And they are the pathway for us to grow and evolve and blossom.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every one of us walks a lotus path.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is not unique to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is part of the spiritual being having a human experience.
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  Condition and when we allow ourselves to honor that shift
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  happens and that life is
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  a journey we then get to really celebrate the mud and honor it
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  and have gratitude
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  SPEAKER_00: and compassion for the journey and so these like what
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the mud.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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  somebody dies and has a health journey or money dynamics or
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  your house burns down
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  SPEAKER_00: or you lose your job.
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  SPEAKER_00: Life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Life is mud.
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  SPEAKER_00: How do we choose to see where the mud is serving?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the essence of this.
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  Yeah,
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  that's important because we often say the shift hits the fan,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it flies.
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  SPEAKER_00: A hundred percent.
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  SPEAKER_03: A hundred percent.
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  And I get that element too of finding the blessing in the
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  unforgivable or finding
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  SPEAKER_03: the,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: because when you're in the thick of it,
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  SPEAKER_03: it's real to see your way out.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yet you do, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: You do get to the other side of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: You do get through
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  SPEAKER_03: the mud and bloom like that lotus does.
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  SPEAKER_03: But going through it, it's hard because it does feel like darkness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, you talked about trusting the darkness.
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  SPEAKER_00: We live on a planet that's half day and half night.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, unless you're in Alaska or, you know, Antarctica.
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  SPEAKER_00: But essentially, the idea is that we have night and day.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can't see the stars without darkness.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're there all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: The more that we allow ourselves to be a part of this experience,
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  SPEAKER_00: that there is duality on this earth.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's not duality in consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Consciousness is oneness.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we split that
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  SPEAKER_00: when we come and we be here in this third dimension.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yes, it is hard to see through the mud.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yet,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you don't put a seed far enough into the dirt and in the soil,
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  SPEAKER_00: it won't become a plant because it's going to get eaten by
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  And another piece of this is,
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  which is a big switch for a lot of people,
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  a
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of human thinkers, and I'm going to say that, human thinkers.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is he doing?
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  SPEAKER_00: He's thinking, the man, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: That he's like the thinker.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is this idea, the human thinker says that we must judge experiences.
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  What if we were given the opportunity to suspend judgment and
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  acknowledge that
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  there's nothing ever wrong and that everything is here for us
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  to support us in
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  SPEAKER_00: evolving and growing through our journey?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a big one.
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  Yeah and I feel when you can leave that judgment behind or even
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  the blame and just
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  step out of it and just let it be you know it's like this we
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  judge emotions like
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  you know being depressed allow yourself to be depressed maybe
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  you need to rest and
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  that's why you're feeling depressed so you can go back to
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  however you need to be
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  or angry because you need to be angry because something's not
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  right in your system
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  SPEAKER_03: or challenging your beliefs.
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  SPEAKER_03: But there's this,
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  the judgment that comes in around that and then we get guilty
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  for feeling that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then it's like this whole weird perpetual cycle that we think
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  SPEAKER_03: or doing not the right thing or being a people pleaser.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gratitude is a key piece, truly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gratitude, non-attachment, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, non-attaching to the story, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, the truth is it's never done.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're never done figuring this thing out.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, we were talking about like, we get it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like we get it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: We get how this whole thing works and then we don't do what we get.
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  Well,
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  that's part of this is the recognition and the witnessing of
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  like,
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  oh,
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  right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know I have a tool for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna use it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna suffer.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a choice.
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  SPEAKER_00: We do that all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: We suffer through life.
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  SPEAKER_00: We say we know better.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you talk, you know, the idea,
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  So there's a fine line between taking responsibility and
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  blaming ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like a coin.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like the two sides of a coin.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's essentially the same.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the perspective.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know,
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  I don't particularly care for the word Y-W-H-Y because the word
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  itself feels
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  SPEAKER_00: disempowering.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I love the letter Y because
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  SPEAKER_00: Because the letter Y essentially is an I with a V on top.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so to me, that is the representation of what accountability is.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am choosing how I see this life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do I feel like a victim?
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  SPEAKER_00: Do I feel like a victor?
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  SPEAKER_00: Do I feel like a villain?
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  SPEAKER_00: Am I willing to be vulnerable?
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  There's a lot of V words that we get to play with in
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  relationship to self.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  Definitely and I think being vulnerable is such a thing I've
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  been on a few podcasts
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  lately on the flip side where I've been the guest and talking
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  about how about
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  loneliness and this like epidemic of loneliness right I was
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  like but loneliness
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  isn't a bad thing loneliness is only a bad thing if you're
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  escaping yourself and
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  not allowing yourself to be vulnerable with yourself that is
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  when loneliness
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  becomes an issue because that is when we go into those
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  addictive and avoided
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  SPEAKER_03: behaviors and everything else
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  Or we go into relationships that don't align because we'd
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  rather be with somebody
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  SPEAKER_03: else than be with our own company.
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  SPEAKER_03: Personally, my cancer hermit is more than happy to stay in her shell.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm the same way.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a Capricorn and I'm also a generator 2-4.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't have a human design speak, but I have some general ideas.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when I read that, I said to myself, yeah.
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  Also,
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  there's this relationship with introvert,
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  extrovert,
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  and all that aspect of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I recognize that I do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love people.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love building containers.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love being with community.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a friend collector.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have friends all over the planet.
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  I have friends that I connect with in Zoom boxes and I have
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  friends I connect with
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  SPEAKER_00: here in the earth.
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  And I know that if I don't spend enough time with me,
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  I'm not serving for anybody.
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  And I think this is a characteristic of the human condition of
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  where we're taught
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  SPEAKER_00: to look outside of ourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're not taught to go within.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're not taught to recognize that this journey is because of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: We chose it and it's being literally propelled by us.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's being fueled by us,
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  SPEAKER_00: by our choices,
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  SPEAKER_00: by how we see ourselves,
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  SPEAKER_00: how we see ourselves reflected in the collective consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_00: The truth is, is
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  SPEAKER_00: This journey is pretty much just about you.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: And everything that you participate in is just about them.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we contract.
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  SPEAKER_00: We connect because we can't do it alone.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not meant to be done alone, but it's meant to be done by self.
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  SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that kind of vibing with you out there, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You're not alone and everything is connected to what's in the field.
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  SPEAKER_00: We weave together together.
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  our experiences but when it comes down to it it's between you
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  and you or you and
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  God or you and source or whatever you and the divine whatever
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  whatever word you
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  want to substitute for that that's really what this
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  consciousness is about that's
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  SPEAKER_03: how I see it well it's that well that's why we think right to have these
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  SPEAKER_03: experiences and to go through this and then it was interesting on my I
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  SPEAKER_03: other podcast connections from beyond John and I my co were talking about
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  alternative realities right because your soul's greedy it wants
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  to experience
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  everything so when you come to a pivotal moment and you know
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  instead of saying yes
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  your soul still experiences the yes and your soul still
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  experiences the no then you
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  SPEAKER_03: go through all these experiences and sometimes they overlap
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  SPEAKER_03: And you circle back and you're like,
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I've already done this,
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  SPEAKER_03: even though I haven't already done this.
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  SPEAKER_03: So this is very interesting.
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  SPEAKER_03: And this whole concept as well of time,
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  SPEAKER_03: because time isn't linear,
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  SPEAKER_03: like we're thinking it's linear.
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  SPEAKER_03: And even the past is not even the past anymore.
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  you know like it's just a perspective it's just what happened
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  in fact you can go
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  reprint you can go there's there's a there's a technique called
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  matrix reprinting
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  you can go back and change what happened so your soul can get
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  that conclusion or
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  SPEAKER_03: get the alternative to what could have happened
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  Which is serving,
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  you know,
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  like the thing is,
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  this is the human condition.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everything is serving.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nothing is ever wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a matter of where is the ease in that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the word disease, I don't use that word.
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  SPEAKER_00: I use dis-ease.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where are we out of ease?
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  SPEAKER_00: And it can show up in a myriad of ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this idea too of past and future.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the word history to me, hi, story.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's all it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a story.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a story.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whether you look at,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: whether you want to take,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  American history or world history or whatever you want to talk
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  about in that,
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  SPEAKER_00: or you want to talk your own personal,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: human avatar history,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's all a story.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are writing stories.
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  SPEAKER_00: with our experiences.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're right,
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  we can change that story at any point based on our willingness
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  to see the whole
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  SPEAKER_00: picture and see what it
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  So,
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  you know,
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  we have these experiences in our life,
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  and then we have the response.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can react, or we can respond, and then we look at that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the story.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the outcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the result.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not what happened, but how you engaged with it, how you relaxed.
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  Related to what happened,
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  whether it was a choice you made or a choice somebody else
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  made.
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  And when you really distill it down,
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  this is the hard part,
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  we create it all.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep, all of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Choose our parents,
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  SPEAKER_00: we choose our kiddos,
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  SPEAKER_00: we choose our neighbors,
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  SPEAKER_00: we choose our bullies and our oppressors.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why would I do that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we don't ask why, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: We say, oh, right, I...
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  Desired to have this experience of being a victim so I could
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  learn what that meant
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  SPEAKER_00: for my whole being.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then you just say, thank you, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's interesting too,
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  SPEAKER_03: because I say like this prayer and I just,
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm like,
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  SPEAKER_03: thank you for the good I cannot say.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because sometimes we're in the mud, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Back to that analogy.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's really hard to say how I am.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I was at a group the other week doing like a presentation and
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  the person before me was speaking and one of the in those
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  moments I say I'm so
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  grateful I'm not in their mind and I was like I like that and
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  then my other
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  favorite was I'm grateful that's not my journey because I found
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  that was really
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  helpful to step out of judgment especially from working in very
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  low SEO areas where
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  might choose to spend money on cigarettes instead of food for
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  their children.
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  And it can be really hard not to judge in them or not to have
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  an experience of it.
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  So it's funny that you say that because this is something that
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  I also feel is
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  SPEAKER_00: really important for
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  SPEAKER_00: for everyone, no matter where you are in your life experience.
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  What I love to say is we're not here to compare tragedies and
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  traumas because the
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  tragedies and the traumas are part of what we're cultivating
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  for our learnings.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like, let's give an example.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not everybody on this planet has been given up for adoption, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But there are people that have been born and then their mother,
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  SPEAKER_00: their father,
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  SPEAKER_00: their birth parents did not want them for whatever reason.
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  SPEAKER_00: and then other people raise them.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a very specific, what we would call trauma or tragedy.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a bazillion of them, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: We're on a planet with a bazillion people.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's a bazillion possible scenarios for challenge.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love what you're saying is that's that gratitude that says,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  I have a different experience and I can see that there's maybe
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  pain in making those
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  SPEAKER_00: choices,
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  SPEAKER_00: right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, we talked about choosing ourself, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So then we're like...
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  SPEAKER_00: So why wouldn't she choose herself and buy cigarettes?
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is where people get a little contracted around.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you said, I'm the most important person.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is where we get to balance between that human experience and
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  SPEAKER_00: and that soul experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to say that those children chose that mom.
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  SPEAKER_00: They chose the mom who chose cigarettes over them.
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  So this is that whole bigger picture that if we come from the
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  place that I chose my
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  SPEAKER_00: parents,
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  SPEAKER_00: I chose the color of my skin,
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  SPEAKER_00: I chose the
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  The generation I decided to be here,
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  I chose the amount of money I was being born into.
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  SPEAKER_00: If we are willing to say that, then there's no blame.
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  That's a concept that I believe is really spinning in our
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  circles of consciousness
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  SPEAKER_00: and accountability.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and a little can't handle when you say you chose all of this.
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  SPEAKER_03: You chose your parents, you chose your circumstances.
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  SPEAKER_03: And even what's even more interesting is I have people go,
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  SPEAKER_03: but why did I get all the inherited,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: visas or the,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: whatever cycle I need to break or whatever it might.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's what your soul needed to experience in that moment.
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  SPEAKER_03: Brother's not going through something similar but different.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know,
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  SPEAKER_03: it just means that in your stronger,
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  SPEAKER_03: maybe that's why you got more and that's why you chose more.
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  and that a lot of people who are stuck in that victim cycle
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  find that really hard
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  SPEAKER_03: to accept and to step out of that because they just sit there and go,
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  SPEAKER_03: I didn't choose that,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: why would I choose this?
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  SPEAKER_03: And the more you resist it,
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_03: persist well,
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  so then it would just get louder and louder and louder until
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  maybe I'm here for
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  SPEAKER_03: something.
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  And,
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  you know,
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  there's this other place where it's interesting about
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  deserving.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have an interesting relationship with that woman.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love to say my mess is my message.
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  And I've got so much mud and so much mess,
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  you know,
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  the layers that are brought to light.
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  From my childhood journey and the parents that I chose and what
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  they embarked on in
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  SPEAKER_00: their life,
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  SPEAKER_00: I know I wouldn't be who I am without them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so there's this place of, you know, I see this as earth school.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of, you know...
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  SPEAKER_00: Hard work, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm saying that hard work because this is really what it's about.
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  It's really about recognizing we came here to work on our
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  soul's evolution.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is what it is.
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  Not the job that we do,
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  but the life we live and the way that we engage with our own
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  experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all a reflection.
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  SPEAKER_03: A hundred percent.
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  It is all a reflection and even then when we start to see the
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  events around us and
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  the synchronicities that start to come through and all the
• 18:44
  really cool things that
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  happen with that right like I always say I can't make this
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  stuff up we do though we
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  SPEAKER_00: We do make it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is, I know, I love that statement of you can't make this up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like, it's happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I said this and then this happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can't make this up.
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  SPEAKER_00: When we recognize how truly powerful we are, we co-create our life.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the matter of what's the perspective we're looking at it from.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, the concept of a spiral.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about a spiral.
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually happen to have one right here.
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  SPEAKER_03: So let's look at this for a second.
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  SPEAKER_00: We got a spiral.
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  And if we look at this and we look and we were to like stretch
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  it up and we were
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  SPEAKER_00: standing underneath it,
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  SPEAKER_00: we'd look up and we'd see that it was like a tent,
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  SPEAKER_00: right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like with a teepee, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: We'd look under and we'd see that it has an N.
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  when we look at it from above we look down and we see that it's
• 19:40
  all layers when we
• 19:42
  look into it we see it's layered when we're in it and we look
• 19:47
  up to it we see that
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: it's limited isn't that wild and this is where it's just
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  SPEAKER_03: I love Sheldon yeah
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  SPEAKER_00: That's why I yourself, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, and saying, oh, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I planned that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I'm all about curiosity.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: So why it's like we're getting curious.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the thing is,
• 20:28
  is that there's a place where why feels like victim,
• 20:32
  why is it happening to me?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Why do I have to go through this?
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: Why does this hurt so much?
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: These are the stories.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: When we just shift it and we say, how is this surrounding?
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: And where are my edges?
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's where are my boundaries?
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  we were talking about this earlier like what's your job and
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  what's somebody else's
• 21:02
  job and this is that idea we can't change anybody else's
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  experience ever we are
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  SPEAKER_00: free sovereign beings by birthright
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  SPEAKER_00: And we are also the ones that give away our power.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all on us.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
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  And I feel that that kind of power people are afraid of
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  anchoring into because then
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: it comes back to,
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: well,
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: then I did that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm responsible for choosing and creating this situation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, you are, beloved.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And it's serving you.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's the fun part.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's where this is a game.
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  laugh we gotta laugh at it because it's really it's a shift
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  show I know I'm like
• 21:43
  cleaning up my language here but it's a shift show right that
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  idea of it really is
• 21:47
  like it's constantly shifting you know I mean we know analog
• 21:52
  and digital right we
• 21:53
  know like these things like film like who knows who's ever seen
• 21:56
  a film strip or a
• 21:58
  video recording but you know it's individual images flickering
• 22:03
  so fast you can't
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: see the individual images that's what this life is
• 22:08
  yeah yeah and I love that you brought up we're more powerful
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  than we know because
• 22:11
  that's come through so many especially when I was starting my
• 22:14
  spiritual journey
• 22:15
  it's like you are more powerful than you know you are more
• 22:17
  powerful than you know
• 22:19
  and not just like psychic gifts and things like that I'm
• 22:22
  putting that caveat for
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: An energetic center, our chakra ladder, all of that.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Our soul is here in this temple, this beautiful body, this form.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: We are literally channels and energy moves through us.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: We have the torus, the toroidal fields.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: that moves through and expands outward.
• 22:41
  I mean,
• 22:41
  this is a concept,
• 22:43
  again,
• 22:43
  that if you're here,
• 22:44
  you already have a sense of this,
• 22:46
  right?
• 22:47
  And if you're just landing,
• 22:47
  you're like,
• 22:48
  oh my God,
• 22:48
  you're speaking Greek to me.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, great.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: You and your higher self called you here.
• 22:54
  That's that place where we get into that like oneness within
• 22:57
  our being and we build
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: We cultivate that relationship.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: We learn from ourselves.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_03: Things end for like days.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: If you could heal or change something in the world, what would it be?
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, essentially, in my introduction, you introduced me.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Ann Jonas, a.k.a.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: The Love Messenger.
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  One of my greatest dreams is that all beings will remember that
• 23:20
  we are love.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: And for me,
• 23:22
  changing something would be to shift the perspective that we're
• 23:27
  here to suffer and
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: that we're not here to suffer,
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: we're here to experience.
• 23:32
  So that's really the container that I would love to have all
• 23:36
  consciousness be aware of.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so if it's not all,
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: let's just say millions,
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: since there's like eight bazillion people on the planet,
• 23:42
  that millions will really like anchor into the truth that you
• 23:49
  are here for a reason
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: and to remember that you are exist.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Any people want to come and work with you?
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  Everything that I offer is through my website,
• 24:04
  thelotuspath.love,
• 24:06
  thelotuspath.love.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: And you can find the ways to work with me in person.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Here I'm on Idaho Earth.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: Virtually, I have many different containers that I have co-created.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: One-to-one is another way, transformational guidance.
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  And you can find me all over the media platforms at Anne the
• 24:24
  Love Messenger.
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  LinkedIn the usual social media Facebook TikTok Instagram I'm
• 24:32
  everywhere someday
• 24:32
  I'm going to be on Substack too I'm working on that one so yes
• 24:36
  so that is so you can
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  come play with me in all layers and levels amazing and I'll
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• 24:43
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  why not and and thank you for reminding us how powerful we are
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  as sovereign beings
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  my pleasure it's an honor I loved connecting with you and the
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  vibration and
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  frequency that you offer so thank you hey beautiful souls I
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  wanted to have a chat
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  but also just
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