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Did Jesus Claim to Be God? The Meaning of “I AM” · Relish: a Christian podcast

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  Relish pleasing or zestful flavor a quantity just sufficient to flavor to be
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  pleased or gratified by enjoy we are hoping that what we bring to your table
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  today might add some spice to your life,
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  welcome back to another episode of relish today we are going to lord willing
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  college up on the um what's in a name series i guess is what it's going to be now um,
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  anyways we promised last week last week we talked a little bit about,
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  the name of god that he gave us and all the different ones and what they mean
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  and we we skipped over a few for sure um,
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  but but this week today we're gonna go into i assume the gospel of john and talk about jesus,
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  as god what is,
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  What does Jesus say? That he is.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm thinking of John 14. Is that where you're thinking?
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  I was thinking John 8, but go ahead. Oh, okay. We can do John 8.
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  You like to do that? He's 58.
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  Yep.
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  I tell you the truth, before Abram was born, I am.
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  And at this they picked up stones and were stoning him, getting ready to stone
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  him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
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  So is it wrong for Jesus to call himself the I am?
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  Heavens, no. Well, to them it was. Well, to them it was.
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  And it would be the thing that they would actually take him to the cross for.
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  I mean, it was basically the only count that they could actually have any grounds
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  in their law to take him to the cross.
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  Claiming he was God or making himself equal with God. It wasn't that he was
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  saying that he was the Savior, right?
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  They were expecting a Savior. They were expecting a Savior. But they weren't
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  expecting God to be the Savior. Right.
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  So this guy coming along saying, I am using that language, they're like,
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  oh, that can't be tolerated. That can't be.
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  Right. Well, and they didn't much like what he was saying either. That's true.
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  You go to Matthew 23 and you realize Jesus was very outspoken about what he
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  thought about the Pharisees and Sadducees. And yeah, he wasn't getting any noogie points from them.
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  No. At that point, because, yeah, that was not, he was not kind to them.
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  I think there's seven, seven woes. Oh, yeah. That he delivers to the Pharisees and Sadducees.
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  Well, and that's the big, you know, tension of Christianity.
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  This God that loves us wants to be with us.
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  It is infinitely beyond anything we can understand. Actually,
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  wants a relationship with us so much that he came. Personally.
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  Yeah. Wow. Didn't send.
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  Somebody that represents him. Right. He came personally. That's right.
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  And that's what we're trying to say here is that Jesus gives all these I am statements.
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  And like all these I am statements, I have a list of them. I won't show them
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  to you. You will. I'm sure you know them all right.
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  In all of these I am statements, he's claiming to be God, right? Yep.
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  Different attributes of God, different showing the character of God through them, right? Oh, yeah.
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  And several of these in John, he specifically says, I am doing what I see my father doing. Yeah.
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  And so he's basically saying, watch me, I'm doing what God's doing already here.
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  As if he really is the personal in-time manifestation of Almighty.
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  And so they're responding to this. You can't be doing that. Yeah.
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  Can't be saying that. No. Even though he was. Yeah.
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  And even asking him, say it plainly, are you actually claiming to be God?
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  And it's like they hadn't been listening the whole time. Right.
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  They hadn't been listening the whole time. Yeah. They just wanted to hear him say it again, maybe.
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  John's gospel gave us several I'm the bread of life Oh yeah,
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  John 6 I'm the light of the world I am the door.
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  I am the good shepherd I am the resurrection and the life I am the way the true
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  and the life Oh yeah, and I am the true vine,
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  are some that I have down 15 you got all these different I am statements yes
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  what's the significance of that I am part do you know well I still think it
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  goes back to the to the Old Testament yeah,
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  to God saying I am that I am and and that.
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  I mean, you can't get into any, uh, fuller foundation, I guess when you boil
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  down any issue to its base, then you, this is the base we have. He is.
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  Yeah. He is. Uh, so. Let me ask a question. Why, why didn't,
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  instead of when he says before Abraham was, I am, why didn't he just say,
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  you know, like I existed before Abraham?
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  I mean, that's, that's the big deal, right? To them it is. Yeah.
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  Because they trace everything back to Abraham. Yeah.
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  I don't know why. I mean, they could go all the way back to Adam,
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  but they go to Abraham because Abraham was the genetic form of their ethnic line.
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  And I think part of that is a lot of this Jewish stuff was ethnic. Yeah.
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  And so they hang it on that, I can prove my DNA, you know, I can prove that
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  he was my father. I can...
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  And yeah, that's why if somebody married outside, well, that messes up the gene pool.
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  And if you go to the Old Testament, in fact, we almost got turned off when we
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  got to Chronicles, the son of, the son of, the son of, the son of.
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  And you go through the Chronicles, do I need to know this?
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  But part of it is because they could trace themselves all the way back.
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  And Paul would come out and say, well, don't mess around with the genealogies anymore.
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  That's not our relationship. And so, don't mess with the endless genealogies.
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  And that points to something else. And so, what is this relationship we have
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  with this Christ? The I am.
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  And he would say, come unto me, all you who are weary and laden,
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  and I will give you rest. It's a relationship. It's personal.
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  It's not out there. I mean, so many, so it seems like the Pharisees,
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  Sadducees would treat God as being off there. And we just sort of have to qualify.
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  We have to sort of gain his presence. We got to gain his favor.
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  We've got to gain this God's favor.
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  And Jesus comes from another attribute and say, come know me.
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  In fact, he says of all these people in Matthew chapter seven,
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  I, I, They do all these things in my name, but I never knew them.
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  And that's an intimacy that Jesus wants. Yeah. That God wants.
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  And that bridges to this next point, like seamlessly, is that there's more than knowing God's name.
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  God's name is not just information. Correct. Right?
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  In fact, I would say you could know this whole book and not know...
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  It's true author. You could have all the information and not know the importance of the creator. Yeah.
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  I mean, yeah. Isn't there a guy who worked with Michael Heiser or something
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  like that who was an atheist? And he'll know more about the Bible than I ever, ever will.
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  Well, and I was thinking, F.F. Bruce was an excellent textual critic of the
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  New Testament, especially, but yet a tremendous man of faith.
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  But the guy who took over from him was an atheist.
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  And really didn't care about the faith and didn't really care about anything
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  except the textual criticism.
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  And he heightened the criticism to such a point that it really.
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  Went underneath the text. It sort of took the foundation down.
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  I'm trying to think what happens when you have a dam and it all of a sudden
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  gets the water going under it instead of through it, over it.
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  You look like you're digging underneath a tree trying to find the root and then
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  you're finding some other trees. It really eroded the foundation.
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  Hammer looking for a nail. Yeah.
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  So it eroded the textual criticism. In fact, the whole study of textual criticism is being criticized.
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  Yeah. Because the guy who came after, successor of F.F. Bruce,
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  pretty well took it down as a study of the New Testament. And,
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  uh, yeah, it's sad, really sad. Yeah.
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  And we, we have to be wary of that because knowing someone's name,
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  knowing God's name is not simply the intellectual information because in the
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  Bible, when, even when God talks about knowing our names and I know you're getting
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  there, not stealing your thunder.
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  You're knowing a person that's not knowing your name.
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  If someone says, I know Alex, that's different than saying, I know Alex's name.
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  Like there's people that, you know, say if they know my name,
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  it feels like they know me. Right.
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  Yeah. And when we, we need to be careful about knowing God's name and actually
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  knowing God. Right. Yes.
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  And I've been caught in situations where somebody says they know me and I haven't got a clue who they are.
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  And I don't know how many times I end up. And it's not just because I'm forgetful. I could be part of it.
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  But it's because they know where I'm at and where I belong, but I really don't
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  have a relationship with them.
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  And that really ends up some interesting times. So I personally work against that and say, well.
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  I have a relationship. If I have a relationship, yes, they're a friend of mine.
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  If I don't have a relationship, well, I'm acquainted with him.
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  If at least I've seen them face to face.
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  I know his work. If I haven't seen him face to face, but I know,
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  you know, what he's written or listen to him on the TV or radio,
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  I'm acquainted with his work.
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  Okay. Rather than, well, I know who that is. Okay. I don't know who that is,
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  but I am acquainted with his work. Mm-hmm.
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  Because. How do we then not be that way with God? Huh.
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  Because that would be real easy.
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  I know God. Because people don't know you if they don't have a relationship with you, right? Right.
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  And so then, how do we have a relationship with God?
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  And I think we need to gain the understanding of who he is calling us to.
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  He's calling us to that relationship that is more than just,
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  oh, hi, how are you doing?
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  It's a, are you going to be my people?
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  Are you going to reflect my values?
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  And even then, I'm not sure,
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  we reflect him well. Sure. So-
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  This possibility of being made new and fresh.
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  We hear it, Jesus. Jesus talks about the transformation and moves Simon to be a Peter.
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  And he talks about John's baptism for the remission of sins.
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  And he talks about us being baptized in the Holy Spirit. What's that gonna do?
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  It's going to change us, isn't it? It's going to change us from who we are to who God wants us to be.
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  And we have to, in one way or another, allow ourselves to be molded by the Almighty.
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  And this,
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  Ephesians 4, verse 24, 25 talks about us taking off the old self and putting on the new self. Yeah.
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  And 2 Corinthians 5, 17 through 19 talks about us.
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  Doing much the same thing, in order to be his ambassadors.
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  What's interesting is then Paul would take that same concept and say,
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  no, you're not only ambassador, you're his sons. Uh...
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  He would take us from, for what the law is powerless to do in that it was weakened by sinful nature.
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  In other words, the Jews thought if they kept the law well enough, they would be okay.
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  And that's not the, God did by sending his own son in the likeness of sinful
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  man to be a sinful sin offering.
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  And so he condemns sin in sinful man in order that righteous requirements of
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  the law might be fulfilled and met in us, who do not live according to the sinful
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  nature, but live according to the Spirit.
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  And so he calls us into this new nature of the Holy Spirit to the point that
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  we get to verse 12 of chapter 8.
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  It says, therefore, brothers, we have an obligation, not to the sinful nature to live according to it.
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  For if we live according to the sinful nature, we'll die.
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  But if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body in which you
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  live, because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
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  And so it's a spirit.
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  It is a new spirit. It's a new life.
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  It's led by this Holy Spirit rather than our spirit who sort of wants to do its own thing. Yeah.
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  Can I just say that the answer in a short way is reconciliation through Jesus?
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  Yes, reconciliation through Jesus. That's what I'm talking about.
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  The thing is, is he's unpacking what that means. And you go through the book
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  of Romans and you're going to find out what that actually looks like.
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  Because it's easy to say.
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  And you're given that very big definition, very accurate definition.
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  I hope you know I'm not saying like. Preachurizing it. Yes. Preachurizing it.
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  Every little bit here is a full sermon for Don, and that's what he gets paid
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  the big bucks to do is turn these little concepts into 15 minutes and 20 minutes.
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  But like, they're all worthy of that, right?
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  And reconciling to such a point that we get to the point we can cry,
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  Abba, Father, because he is our father.
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  He's not only out there, I am.
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  No, he's our father. Abba, Father, my heartfelt father. He's the one that gives me life.
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  And the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we're God's children.
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  That's right. Go read Romans 8. Children, then heirs, heirs of God,
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  co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share it in his sufferings,
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  in order that we may also share in his glory.
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  That's beautiful. That's right. Then I would say, when we get there, we'd know Christ.
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  We know Christ, we know God, and does he know us? Are we out of time already? No. Okay.
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  And that identity piece in that name that we get from Christ—,
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  It's part of our identity when we get there in Revelation chapter 20. Yeah.
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  Because those books will be opened and the names will be in those books.
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  Yeah, pay attention. And I have to wonder what names are going to be.
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  Which of my names is going to be in there? Yeah.
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  And will Paul's name be in there or Saul's name be in there?
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  But in that book of life, you're either in it or not. Yeah.
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  And there's two books. One has all our deeds, all recorded. one right after
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  another. And then the second book,
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  if anyone's name is not found written in the book of life, he'll be thrown into the lake of fire.
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  And I would say more and more as time goes on,
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  that second book is the ones who really have the relationship with Jesus Christ to God the Father.
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  I stand and saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne,
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  and books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the book of life.
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  The dead were judged according to what they had done, recorded in the books.
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  The sea and everything gave up its dead.
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  Then death and Hades were thrown in the lake, and if anybody's name was not,
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  written in the book of life, he was thrown in the lake of fire.
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  And it's more than just like, it's more than just your name, right?
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  It's because God knows who you are. So what does it tell us about God that he
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  isn't dealing with humanity as this like anonymous crowd of people?
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  He knows who we are. Individually. Yeah. Yes.
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  And can you imagine a God so infinite that the DNA that is in you right now,
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  actually has ancient roots? Mm-hmm.
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  And that he knew that all these Zimmermans from the past would boil down to this Alex guy.
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  God knew that. Yeah. God knew that you'd be able to develop facial hair.
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  Yep. And God knew your heart, even before you did, probably. Right.
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  So we serve, we're given the privilege to serve a God who's willing to reveal
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  himself so completely that, well,
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  a book and black and white didn't quite do it.
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  And these prophets didn't quite do it. And so he felt like a personal revelation
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  of himself was necessary. And he gave us Jesus.
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  And we've got four Gospels that do the best they can in black and white to reveal who Jesus is.
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  But he couldn't reveal himself fully without the Holy Spirit.
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  That's awesome. And what's interesting is the Spirit couldn't come until Jesus went back.
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  And so then when Jesus went back to be with God in Acts chapter 1,
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  there was a little hiatus in there.
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  And then he sent the Spirit. Yeah. And what's interesting is that in 2 Corinthians
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  chapter 5, it is that Spirit that is the seal guaranteeing our future. Yeah.
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  Isn't that cool? That is the coolest part, right?
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  Now, where did I go off? There we go. That's a beautiful gift that then seals
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  our new identity, that God's not abandoning us.
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  God thinks exactly about each one of us every day, all the time,
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  wanting this relationship, pursuing a relationship with us, knowing us by name,
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  knowing exactly who we are.
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  And still, even though we fail, even though we give ourselves all sorts of other
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  identities, still wants a relationship with us. Right. In fact, desires it so much,
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  that he goes to great lengths to get our attention.
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  And his desire is that we really call him Lord. Yeah. And I think we forget what Lord means.
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  I think we think about English lords and saying, Oh, that would have been a no way.
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  But it really would be CEO, chairman, CEO, chief executive officer.
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  Are we going to let God be the chief executive officer of our life?
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  In other words, we order our life in such a way that it reflects what he wants
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  us to be doing, what values he wants us to live out, what vision he has for the day.
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  And so I even have been practicing it to the point, well, okay,
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  I've got these two options, Lord, you know, it's yours, it's you.
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  Which option would you have me do?
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  And it's amazing what comes out of those situations. And now it sort of becomes
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  rote and I do it more often.
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  And then I sort of think, well, it's sort of nice. I can just sit back and let the Lord do it. Yeah.
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  And it's good stuff. It's good stuff. Yes, it is. In fact, it's amazing stuff,
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  as to where he will put us where we haven't been before.
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  And I just nudge you a little bit because when we talk about this identity,
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  oh, yeah, I'm a Christian.
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  And it's a moniker that we wear. And sometimes it's a necklace we wear or something like that.
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  Yeah, you can't just give yourself a better name.
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  The identity goes very deep and it's gotta be that all this Old Testament stuff
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  yeah it reflects the values,
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  but I fulfill that out of relationship rather than out of obligation,
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  and if we do it in relationship it's not much of an obligation I mean big deal,
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  it's gonna be it's gonna happen in us anyway right.
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  Oh, man. Did I catch some of what we had? Oh, tons of it. I mean,
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  we started with, you know, like what's in a name, then God, you know, changes people.
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  So I was giving them a new name, giving us this new identity.
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  And now we're talking about, you know, what does God's name mean for our identity?
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  And so then we started looking at first examining yourself you know what kind
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  of a name are you giving yourselves because a lot of the self-help stuff a lot
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  of the modern culture the counselors the
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  the therapists and stuff they're telling you to look inside yourself you know
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  they're trying to build you up with self-help build up your self-esteem so that
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  you can say okay i am this now oh i am this now okay oh i i am a healthier person
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  because i run i can do these things you You know.
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  You can't do it yourself. No. If you root your identity in that,
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  there's going to be something comes along and is going to knock it down as easy
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  as God docked out of the tower of Babel.
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  And there's probably a better example there, but who you are has to be who God says you are.
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  So it's no longer, you know, okay, I'm a divorced person. I'm a failure.
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  I'm a angry person. I'm addicted. I'm ashamed. Any of those things.
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  No, now it's, you're redeemed. Yes. You're loved.
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  And I special, I'd nudge back and I'd say several of those monikers we give
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  ourselves are actually probably put on there by Satan. Sure.
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  And they're meant to draw us down. And one of the things that I've been working
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  with some young people is the moniker of shame.
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  Yeah. You know, they have lust. Can you imagine? Yeah.
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  There was a day I did. And so it was so natural, and they don't know what to
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  do with it, and they feel so bad about it, and Satan just says, yes.
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  He just celebrates that. And so I practice a healing prayer and a deeper walk
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  if you want to look at it sometime.
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  And to practice that with a believing Christian, you have to be a believing
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  Christian for that to be effective and allow them to hear Jesus.
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  And when Jesus says, you know, I understand. Yes. And I forgive you.
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  And then you ask, what else do you want? Jesus. What do you want this person to know next?
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  And then we go deeper, and then we go deeper, and we go deeper.
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  And it's just amazing how Jesus will speak to us if he's given a chance.
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  And sometimes we don't give him a chance. And I'm just thankful for facilitators,
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  that sometimes will help us.
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  And I go to some as well that will help us hear Jesus more clearly in the here and now.
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  Because we wear the name, we claim the name, but do we live the name?
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  Right. I mean, that's the reflection piece. Are you living under the identity of Christ? Yeah.
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  I just nudge because it's part of each communion service and almost every pastor
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  will talk about it. And in 1 Corinthians 11, I think it's 27 to 35.
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  Anyway, 27 to the end of the chapter. And in there is a piece where Paul says,
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  before you partake in the elements of communion, you should examine yourself.
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  And that is to sort of look at, am I in this relationship with Jesus,
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  the one for whom I'm remembering his flesh and his blood? Right.
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  And if you're just going there for juice and crackers, you could do that about anywhere.
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  But if you're going to remember his body, then that means we've got to examine
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  our relationship to him before we celebrate. Right.
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  And doing that in the right way, too. Like, if we're going to anchor all this
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  together, I mean, I just bring it back to, you know, what Peter was thinking
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  in the garden after the crucifixion or after they haul him away to be crucified. Right.
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  If you're someone who's sitting in that shame, imagine Peter. Yeah. Right?
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  Oh, man. And then three days later, not just Jesus shows up,
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  but Jesus comes looking for him. Yes.
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  Like, guys, that gives me chills. Yes.
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  Had breakfast ready, too. Yeah. Like, man, God is good.
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  And he seeks you out.
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  He wants to be with you. He wants that relationship with you.
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  There's no shame there, guys.
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  This song has been in my heart the last couple days.
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  John Wayne lived right next door to Stuart Hamlin.
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  They had similar lives, and they were drinkers and womanizers and those kind of things.
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  And Stuart ended up going to a Billy Graham crusade and was saved at that Billy
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  Graham crusade. And so when they met, they were next door neighbors.
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  Stuart bought Errol Flynn's mansion and lived there.
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  And John Wing was next door. And so Stuart was talking to John and said,
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  you know, I got to tell you something that's happened in my life.
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  And I said, I gave my life to Jesus and I've done this and I've done that.
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  And I put all this behind me.
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  And John responds and says, well, it's no secret what God can do.
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  And so Stuart, I mean, I think it's took him back. And he created the psalm.
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  It is no secret what God can do. What he's done for others, he'll do for you.
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  With arms wide open, he'll welcome you.
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  It is no secret what God can do.
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  I'm sorry. I like it. I hope YouTube doesn't take it down for that, but.
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  I won't recognize it. Yeah, hopefully. Well, yeah, go listen to it, maybe.
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  But yeah, Stuart Hamlin. And yeah, it's just a neat testimony. Yes, it is.
• 29:03
  I love those personal stories that we can bring in here.
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  Okay. You know, brothers and sisters, if you don't get anything out of this,
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  other than the fact that God loves you, God seeks a relationship with you,
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  He's brought Jesus as a guide and the Holy Spirit as a seal.
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  If you've experienced the Holy Spirit as a seal and today you don't feel very close to,
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  Ask him why. Just ask him why. That's a brave prayer. And he'll let you know.
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  Maybe get a good Christian brother and have him walk with you.
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  And break the bondage that Satan wants to hold us tight with.
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  I think maybe if the church could, if every Christian who sits in church could
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  find the freedom in Christ that God intends for us, my gracious sakes,
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  Satan would be on the run. Yeah.
• 30:02
  Alright that wraps up our name series I think that's a good spot is it?
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  Oh yeah next week we're going to be looking into the authority of scripture,
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  can we trust scripture all of it, some of it how do you know,
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  so I'll give Don a little bit time to brush up on that um and share this with
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  of who god is and is calling to us in our daily lives thank you again for joining
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