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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: An Unhinged 19 Miles On a Treadmill · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Emily body here.
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  Speaker 2: You are listening to another episode of Five Minute Friday
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  Speaker 2: from Hurdle. I have survived the unknown. The unknown being
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  Speaker 2: that last weekend I did a nineteen mile run on
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  Speaker 2: the treadmill. Now, the funniest thing about this was that I,
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  Speaker 2: truly from the bottom of my soul, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way I'm doing this.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way.
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  Speaker 2: For context, many of you are in the loop, but
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  Speaker 2: there has been a really awful air quality here in
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  Speaker 2: New York City, as well as many places around the
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  Speaker 2: country from the wildfires that are happening up in Canada,
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  Speaker 2: and so there was no way that I was going
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  Speaker 2: to do my long run as prescribed outside over the weekend. Truly,
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  Speaker 2: at different points last week I would be outside for
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  Speaker 2: between five and fifteen minutes walking from point A to
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  Speaker 2: point B, and so just like dizzy instant almost headache
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  Speaker 2: felt awful. So even if I wanted to ignore the
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  Speaker 2: air quality, there was absolutely no way that I knew
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  Speaker 2: that I was going to be able to do that
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  Speaker 2: run outside. I digress, I knew I was going to
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  Speaker 2: do it indoors. I am getting ready in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: I mentally know I'm going to go do some sort
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  Speaker 2: of a treadmill run on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: But in the back of my mind, I'm like, just
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  Speaker 1: get to double digits.
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  Speaker 2: I was fully okay with breaking it up over the
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  Speaker 2: course of two days.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to get some effort done.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this is something that I will do more often
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  Speaker 2: than not when I'm traveling and just don't have the
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  Speaker 2: time to clock together a lot of miles at once.
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  Speaker 2: I firmly believe that this is one of those There's
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  Speaker 2: a reason why the training plan is written in pencil.
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  Speaker 2: Do the best you can with what you have moments,
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  Speaker 2: and so if it's I'm going to run nineteen miles
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  Speaker 2: or over the course of two days, or I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to run them at all, then it's always better
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  Speaker 2: to run them over the course of the two days. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the purpose of running nineteen twenty twenty one miles in
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  Speaker 2: a marathon training block is because you are testing the stimulus, right,
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  Speaker 2: You are working to feel what it's going to feel
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  Speaker 2: like when you are running twenty six point two miles
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  Speaker 2: on the day. Does that mean that if you break
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  Speaker 2: up the nineteen mile run over two days, you're getting
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  Speaker 2: the exact same stimulus.
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  Speaker 1: No, it does not. You are not.
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  Speaker 2: But again I stand by the it's better to do
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  Speaker 2: something than nothing.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm getting ready.
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  Speaker 2: I decide to like film part of this process in
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  Speaker 2: my bathroom, and I say the line that changes it all.
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  Speaker 2: I say, do I think I'm going to do all
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  Speaker 2: of this at once today? Absolutely not. I believe that
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  Speaker 2: you have to be absolutely unhinged to run nineteen miles
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  Speaker 2: on a treadmill. And then in that moment I knew
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  Speaker 2: I am going to be absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Unhinged.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if I really got on there and it
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  Speaker 2: felt crazy awful, then I would have decided against it. However,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't feel awful. It didn't feel awful at all.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me of I in twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: It was I believe I ran the Dublin Marathon and
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  Speaker 2: the New York City Marathon in the same week.
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  Speaker 1: Dublin I believe.
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  Speaker 2: I think, if I recall, they have it on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: like Boston Marathon is on Monday. I ran the Dublin
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  Speaker 2: Marathon on Monday, and then I ran the New York
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  Speaker 2: City Marathon that Sunday. And the only reason I remember
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  Speaker 2: the moment when I realized that I was going to
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  Speaker 2: try to do both was when I realized that Dublin
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  Speaker 2: was the week before New York and I was sitting
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  Speaker 2: in to talking to this woman that worked at ASEX
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  Speaker 2: at the time, and ASEX was the token sponsor for
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  Speaker 2: both marathons. They had invited me to run Dublin and
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  Speaker 2: I said to her, you know, like it would be
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  Speaker 2: kind of crazy if we did both back to back,
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  Speaker 2: and she said, only one way to find out, And
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  Speaker 2: so that year I did them back to back. And
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  Speaker 2: the rule that I had for myself just to disclaim,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that I would at this age. I
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  Speaker 2: say this like I'm like hobbling around at this age.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that I would be able necessarily to
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  Speaker 2: do something like that. I told myself that if I
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  Speaker 2: got back to the States on Monday Tuesday and went
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  Speaker 2: for a shakeout on Wednesday and I felt solid that
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  Speaker 2: I would then run the New York marathon on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 2: And I got very lucky and also so grateful that
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  Speaker 2: the ASEX was sponsoring it and I had the ability
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  Speaker 2: to do something like that. But what a crazy decision. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: back to this week's story. I get to the gym,
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  Speaker 2: I think I walk in there around seven fifteen, and
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  Speaker 2: there are no two ways about it. A long run
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  Speaker 2: is a mental game. You can be extremely fit, but
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  Speaker 2: if you do not have your mind right, you will
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  Speaker 2: not succeed in the mission. It just won't work, especially
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  Speaker 2: when you are literally standing in one place while moving
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  Speaker 2: in one place. And so I got on the treadmill,
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  Speaker 2: and the entire goal the entire time.
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  Speaker 1: Was just break it up into little doables.
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  Speaker 2: So I went into it thinking that I was going
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  Speaker 2: to listen to music the whole time. Then I was
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  Speaker 2: chatting with a friend, as one does when they're running
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  Speaker 2: on a treadmill. Texting with a friend, she said I
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  Speaker 2: would definitely have to watch a movie, So then I
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  Speaker 2: put on talk about a downer but like great movie
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  Speaker 2: voicemails for Isabelle. Now, my error was that I did
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  Speaker 2: not think about the angle of the neck positioning. So
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  Speaker 2: the phone was like in the tray down below, and
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  Speaker 2: I wish that I had one of those sticky things
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  Speaker 2: on the back so that I could have put it
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  Speaker 2: right in front of me. Smart woman too treadmills over
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  Speaker 2: she was running fourteen. That was actually really fun is
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  Speaker 2: that I was totally in a community of people that
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  Speaker 2: were just as insane and slightly unhinged as I was.
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  Speaker 2: There were people all around me running long, which was
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  Speaker 2: very unifying and just like felt like I was part
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  Speaker 2: of something, and I started bringing it up into little doables.
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  Speaker 2: So it was like, all right, I'm going to run
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  Speaker 2: this five k and warm up and then I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to turn up the pace just a little bit. But
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  Speaker 2: the entire time, in my mind, pace was not something
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  Speaker 2: that was super important. I just wanted to be able
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  Speaker 2: to maintain for as long as I could. So I
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  Speaker 2: run the five k. Then I turned on voicemails for Isabelle.
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  Speaker 2: Then I'm like, okay, well this will take up about
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  Speaker 2: two hours, and I'm just kind of mindlessly on the treadmill,
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  Speaker 2: half listening, half watching again because of the head positioning,
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  Speaker 2: And then I really started to do a lot of
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  Speaker 2: mental gymnastics once I got to thirteen. And you do
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  Speaker 2: the reverse math. I don't think that's actually the right
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  Speaker 2: term for this, but you do the math, and I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: nineteen six miles. I can run six miles. I run
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  Speaker 2: six miles all the time. I ran six miles on
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  Speaker 2: a treadmill the other day. And then you start to
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  Speaker 2: debunk the negative thoughts that might slip in. So it's
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  Speaker 2: giving myself. I am statements, I am capable of doing this.
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  Speaker 2: I am someone who can run six miles. I have
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  Speaker 2: done things that are harder than this. Talking about moments
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  Speaker 2: that have really helped me. Remember who I am. In
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  Speaker 2: the build up to the twenty eighteen Boston Marathon, the
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  Speaker 2: one that does one and it was an absolute insane
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  Speaker 2: downpour and there were winds and it was hailing when
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  Speaker 2: it started wild, I did one training run in the rain,
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  Speaker 2: and at that point I was never someone that would
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  Speaker 2: run in the rain. I was like, this is not
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  Speaker 2: for me. It's not I don't want to get wet,
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  Speaker 2: it's not for me. But that one training run that
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  Speaker 2: I did in the rain on the day of the
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  Speaker 2: very insane weather conditions marathon was what instilled in me, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you can do this. And that day, truly, out of
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  Speaker 2: any run I have ever done in my life, taught
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  Speaker 2: me that I can do hard things. And so then
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  Speaker 2: in this moment on a treadmill, fast forward eight years later,
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  Speaker 2: I am reminded I can do hard things and that
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  Speaker 2: is something that I want to be. The takeaway from this,
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  Speaker 2: no one needs to run nineteen miles on the treadmill.
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  Speaker 2: I would not recommend this to my worst enemy. It
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  Speaker 2: is a choice that I made on that particular day.
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  Speaker 2: And what happens when you ask yourself what am I
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  Speaker 2: capable of? What happens when you remember who it is
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  Speaker 2: that you really are?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? For me, I am someone who does hard things.
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  Speaker 2: Fact, maybe it can be interpreted at times, or at
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  Speaker 2: least you can feel that way, But I know that
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  Speaker 2: I am capable of showing up when things feel hard.
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  Speaker 2: I recognize that things can feel hard, and I am
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  Speaker 2: capable of doing them.
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  Speaker 1: It's an and both.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so for me that day, the mental gymnastics
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  Speaker 2: was not a lot of Oh, you can't do this,
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  Speaker 2: Oh are you really going to keep going?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Like negative self talk. It was just different affirmations and
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  Speaker 2: reminding myself of the things I knew to be true.
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  Speaker 2: We have the evidence. More often than not, we have
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  Speaker 2: the evidence. We have instances of moments in our life
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  Speaker 2: when we showed up to do hard things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you reflect on those moments and you
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  Speaker 2: use that evidence to remember who it is that you
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  Speaker 2: are in the next installment of difficult moments and the
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  Speaker 2: next circumstance, when you have just a quick second where
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  Speaker 2: you might doubt yourself, that is going to be the
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  Speaker 2: thing that helps.
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  Speaker 1: You move forward.
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  Speaker 2: And so on Saturday, when I showed up to that
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  Speaker 2: treadmill and I debated if I was going to do
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  Speaker 2: thirteen fifteen, seventeen nineteen, kept bringing that evidence forward. And
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  Speaker 2: so that's what I encourage you to do in the
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  Speaker 2: moments when that gremlin might be kicking in a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah again, I am not I still think it's unhinged behavior,
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  Speaker 2: but this is an unhinged thing that I did that
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  Speaker 2: is going to remind me exactly who I am the
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  Speaker 2: next time a difficult moment arises, And what a dope opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: That is My listener prompt for you this week. What
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  Speaker 2: was the last difficult thing that you overcame and what
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  Speaker 2: did you learn from that moment? What was the last
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  Speaker 2: difficult thing that you overcame and what can you learn
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  Speaker 2: from that moment? And now let's queue up a listener question.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: I just put a questions box on my Instagram from
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  Speaker 2: Kim Emily loved the show. What's your current running lifting
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  Speaker 2: split ahead of Sydney? So right now I am running
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  Speaker 2: four days a week and lifting three days a week.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a full dedicated rest day, although for
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  Speaker 2: me Sunday's lift feels a lot like a rest day.
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  Speaker 2: There's like one main lift I believe right now it's squats,
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  Speaker 2: and then the rest of it is just accessory work.
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  Speaker 2: And that works for me. That's what feels good for
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  Speaker 2: me in my body. That's what feels good for me
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  Speaker 2: as someone who loves to move in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: That's what feels good for me right now.
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  Speaker 2: With that said, as we get closer to the marathon,
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  Speaker 2: Sydney Marathon is August thirtieth, I am planning on going
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  Speaker 2: down to lifting two days a week and running four
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  Speaker 2: days a week, and so my peak week for mileage
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  Speaker 2: is week seventeen. I'm in week fifteen right now, and
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  Speaker 2: I think for me that might be between thirty five
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  Speaker 2: and forty miles. I'm not in the scheme of marathon training.
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  Speaker 2: There's a wide spectrum of the miles that you could accumulate.
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  Speaker 1: I am on the.
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  Speaker 2: Lower end of the spectrum in terms of miles that
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  Speaker 2: I'm accumulating. I like to do more quality, less quantity,
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  Speaker 2: so I will, like I said, go down to two
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  Speaker 2: days a week lifting, four days a week running, one
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  Speaker 2: full dedicated rest day. On that day, I'll still do
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  Speaker 2: some sort of active recovery, whether that's a walk. I've
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  Speaker 2: been dialed in on closing my Apple watchings for the
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  Speaker 2: past year plus, so for me, that's ten thousand steps
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  Speaker 2: a day. I think the calories although like I'm not
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  Speaker 2: someone who cares too much about that, but the calories
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  Speaker 2: are set at maybe six hundred burned and then ten
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  Speaker 2: standing hours. So for me, even on a recovery day,
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  Speaker 2: I'm making sure that I'm active to an extent, meandering around,
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  Speaker 2: enjoying myself, reading, you know, all the good stuff, norma, tech, booting.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the training split for right now. I've said
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  Speaker 2: this before, I'll say it again. My training split might
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  Speaker 2: not work for you.
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  Speaker 1: This is for me. It's what feels good in my body.
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  Speaker 2: I also work with other people to figure out my coaching,
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  Speaker 2: so specifically with my strength work, I work one on
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  Speaker 2: one with a trainer through the Future app. If you
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  Speaker 2: are listening to this and you're interested in the Future app,
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  Speaker 2: I have a code for you, and I'll also put
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  Speaker 2: it into the show notes. I forget what the discount
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  Speaker 2: is right now, I want to say, maybe it's like
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  Speaker 2: your first month for ninety nine dollars, So I have
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: that for you if you're interested in it. But I love, love,
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  Speaker 2: love the future app and the trainer that I'm working with.
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  Speaker 1: I'm working with Runna right now for.
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  Speaker 2: My marathon plan, which I have absolutely loved. I also
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  Speaker 2: love it knowing that I have a run coach certification,
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  Speaker 2: so for me, I can look at the workouts that
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  Speaker 2: it creates for me and then interpret and or adjust
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  Speaker 2: based on how I feel in my body what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: I have had workouts over the last few training blocks
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  Speaker 2: that I've done with Runna that have involved workouts that
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen before that I've never done before in
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  Speaker 2: the formatting and the type, in the duration of the
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  Speaker 2: different efforts, and it's just been really fun. It's been
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  Speaker 2: a really fun way for me to diversify my run
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  Speaker 2: training considering that I've been at this for a while now.
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  Speaker 2: So those are the things that I'm doing that's what
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  Speaker 2: works for me. I will say that the closer I
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  Speaker 2: get to the marathon, I'm also extremely attentive, as I
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  Speaker 2: try to be all the time, but to my inputs
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  Speaker 2: and my outputs, I am someone who loves to own
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  Speaker 2: my know I know that saying no is me practicing
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  Speaker 2: self care. So sometimes that's events, Sometimes that's commitments. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: that's like altering a plan with a friend. Someone wants
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  Speaker 2: to go out to a late dinner and I want
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  Speaker 2: to get to bed earlier. It's like, Okay, I might
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  Speaker 2: not be able to do that, but what if we
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  Speaker 2: did this instead? So my training split might be run
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  Speaker 2: four days left, two days in the last two three
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  Speaker 2: weeks leading up to the marathon. But the biggest thing
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  Speaker 2: I really exercise in that lead up to the main
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  Speaker 2: day is owning my now.
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  Speaker 1: Hope that helped.
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  Speaker 2: As always, I hope that you are compelled to leave
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  Speaker 2: me a listener question, to send me something.
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  Speaker 1: You can email me over at Hello dot us.
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  Speaker 2: You can also comment on YouTube to everyone that watched
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  Speaker 1: This is really fun.
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  Speaker 2: I'm having a really good time with it. To be
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  Speaker 2: someone that launches a podcast every Tuesday and Friday is
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  Speaker 2: one thing. But to launch the podcast, then to put
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  Speaker 2: things on social, then to put things on YouTube. I'm like,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: oh my god, there are so many avenues that we
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: are doing this now. But I hope that you like
• 15:43
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  Speaker 2: Leave a comment, leave a comment in a review. Oh man, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's time I wrap this up. I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: all of you here, wherever you get your podcasts. At
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  Speaker 2: Emily Ovahi at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered. Happy guys,
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  Speaker 2: next time,