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Speaker 1: She knows how to um spool a yarn? What is
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Speaker 1: that say, lad dollar Bart will know how to know
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Speaker 1: it's had a spool a yarn? If you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. Welcome to like a virgin. The show we
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Speaker 1: give yesterday's pop culture Today it's takes. I'm Rose damn you,
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Speaker 1: and I'm Fran to Rondo Fran What would you if
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Speaker 1: you had to guess, what do you think would be
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Speaker 1: the most fuckable pasta? I thought, I mean, my first
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Speaker 1: thought is like, um, you know, a fusili like a
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Speaker 1: kind of like a dense, chewy noodle that's PC so
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Speaker 1: it's easy to you know, fuck. Okay, So that's a
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Speaker 1: little more specific than than the question was intended to be.
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Speaker 1: Because virgins, if you're on a where UM a porn
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Speaker 1: creator UM by the name of I actually don't know
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Speaker 1: what their name is, as as if it matters, UM
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Speaker 1: unleashed a video onto the world and which he um
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Speaker 1: fucked flesh lights full of several different kinds of pasta,
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Speaker 1: each fleshlight with a different with a different kind of pasta,
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Speaker 1: And we're not talking about like types of noodles. I
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Speaker 1: think that's where you're you're getting very specific into that
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Speaker 1: we're not talking about like he he fucked like Bucatini
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Speaker 1: versus angel Hair. That's like he was fucking. He was
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Speaker 1: fucking pasta dishes. So he was like las Macaronian cheese,
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Speaker 1: um like bulonaise and um. So I did not subscribe
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Speaker 1: to his I did not buy the video so I
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Speaker 1: could find out which was the most fuckable pasta. But
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Speaker 1: I have watched the teaser clip that he released several
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Speaker 1: times and your review, Um, I mean it's weird. He
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Speaker 1: seems like a Weirdoh um, no surprise there. I think
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Speaker 1: you kind of have to be. But I also kind
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Speaker 1: of love him for this. And if I had to,
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Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I would say lasagna would
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Speaker 1: be the most fuckable pasta. There's something about it being
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Speaker 1: like a sort of pasta casserole that lends itself to
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Speaker 1: a certain softness. I that that that sounds wretched. I
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Speaker 1: really there are a lot of foods that I would fuck,
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Speaker 1: but pasta is just not one of them. And I
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's because it's like cheesy, or if
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Speaker 1: it's because it's like kind of like pec and like
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Speaker 1: kind of like it's got this like chewy soggy texture
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Speaker 1: that like actually sends a shiver down my spine. Like,
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Speaker 1: there's just so many foods that I would suck before.
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Speaker 1: I would suck pasta. Would you are there other foods
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Speaker 1: that you would fuck? No? I wouldn't suck any food
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Speaker 1: I would fuck like a pie, okay, Jason Biggs, or
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe like a like a birthday cake, because I
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Speaker 1: don't really Oh, I would suck a cake. I would
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Speaker 1: definitely like a butter cream, but like as a joke,
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Speaker 1: not not for any sort of sexual place. I would
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Speaker 1: do it for the TikTok. Yeah. The thing about the
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Speaker 1: video that did um disgusted me for a second until
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Speaker 1: I realized what the purpose of it was was that
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Speaker 1: he was wearing a condom, and I was like, it's
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Speaker 1: you grow up. But then I thought about it and
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Speaker 1: it's food. And I don't really think you want tomato
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Speaker 1: sauce going up your urethra. No, you don't want You
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Speaker 1: don't want night shades on your dick, Mama, you don't.
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Speaker 1: You don't want some that acidic quality. Okay, that's like
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Speaker 1: too many tomatoes. No, no, no, um, yeah, I I
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Speaker 1: don't understand how the internet gets to these places honestly,
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Speaker 1: it makes me think of the guy that had like,
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Speaker 1: you know, forty two loads in one day or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that guy that how many loads? I know,
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Speaker 1: I know exactly if you're talking for the virgins, if
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Speaker 1: you're not aware, sometime last year there was a guy
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Speaker 1: who decided to take forty two loads. He actually lives
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Speaker 1: like three blocks away from me because I see him
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Speaker 1: on grinding her all the time. Um, but like I
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Speaker 1: think a lot about this episode of Nympho Wars where
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Speaker 1: Theta talks about them the experienced poisoning effect of discourse
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Speaker 1: and how it's so much like this like subsect of
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Speaker 1: kink and fetish culture and how kink and just like
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Speaker 1: porn porn acting in general has become like not like
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Speaker 1: the what is the maximum amount of pleasure I can get?
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Speaker 1: And more like what is the most what is the
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Speaker 1: craziest experience that I can like put my body through
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Speaker 1: for shock value? Because like shock is like actually the pleasure,
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Speaker 1: like being polarizing is the pleasure. Like it's so it's
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Speaker 1: about it's about creating a meme. I mean, this guy
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Speaker 1: has fucked different types of fast of like delivery pizzas before,
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Speaker 1: Like he's fucked Papa John's versus Dominoes versus. And let
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Speaker 1: me tell you, I am not sticking my dick in
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Speaker 1: Papa John's. I love Papa John's. Actually, um, I think
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Speaker 1: Papa John's. Probably Papa John is problematic because he's a
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Speaker 1: Trump supporter, right. It's Papa John. He loves the wall
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Speaker 1: wants to build it. U. So, um, you haven't been
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Speaker 1: sucking any pizza or postiblately, what have you been up to?
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Speaker 1: What have I been fucking? I did actually have sex
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Speaker 1: this weekend, had sex. I had sex with two different
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Speaker 1: people this weekend. I'm in my slat era right now.
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Speaker 1: Are we going to talk about it on the on
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Speaker 1: the Potter? Are we going to just tease the virgins
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Speaker 1: and then we're just not Phoebe says don't. Phoebe says yes,
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Speaker 1: we have to talk about it. Should we hate about it?
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Speaker 1: I mean all the this is all I'm gonna say.
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Speaker 1: I'm in my slat era right now because, as as
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Speaker 1: I might have said, I'm like trying to like date
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Speaker 1: and fuck at the same time and have them both
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Speaker 1: be fulfilling. Because if I'm having fulfilling sex, then that
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Speaker 1: like takes the pressure off of dating and I'm having
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Speaker 1: fulfilling dates that then that takes the pressure off of
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Speaker 1: like trying to find intimacy through sex. So I think,
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Speaker 1: like doing these two things, yeah, I'm like getting different.
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Speaker 1: I'm getting the different I'm getting different needs met from
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Speaker 1: different places. Okay, way, maybe you're actually describing something that
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Speaker 1: I was searching for this past weekend because I was
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Speaker 1: in pursuit of dates with an individual who will not
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Speaker 1: be named UM, and long story short, I was crushing
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Speaker 1: very hard on someone UM for the better part of
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Speaker 1: like a week, and was in pursuit of these dates
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Speaker 1: and felt like I was putting forth all this effort
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Speaker 1: and not getting any reciprocity at all, despite the fact
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Speaker 1: that we had an amazing first date, and I was
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Speaker 1: realizing that part of my frustration was through the fact that,
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Speaker 1: like I wanted to fuck, And so I scheduled a
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Speaker 1: date with someone else who I had been sexting for
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Speaker 1: a while or just been flirting with for a while,
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Speaker 1: and like we had all this kind of energy and
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Speaker 1: like they did they did already want to see me,
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Speaker 1: and I wanted to see them, And UM spent like
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Speaker 1: all of Saturday just like getting stone and watching dragons
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Speaker 1: and kind of like digging around. It was like literally
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Speaker 1: literally digging around. It was phenomenal. And also just like
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Speaker 1: I just like like I need hours of like love
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Speaker 1: sech like love bombing and like in de muse and
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Speaker 1: like warmth. And I think that like the next were catapulted,
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Speaker 1: but don't But don't you find that when you get
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Speaker 1: this kind of even if it's not like love bombing
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Speaker 1: or like cuddling or anything, when you get like a
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Speaker 1: really satisfying sexual experience, it like catapults here next week
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Speaker 1: Like it's like I feel like I have so much
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Speaker 1: more momentum and like um, Sarah Tonin and things in
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Speaker 1: my him that just makes me ready to conquer the way. Sure,
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Speaker 1: I I do feel recharged in a certain way after
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Speaker 1: having a lot of sex this weekend and also like spinach. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and also the thing you were talking about about, like um,
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Speaker 1: like alleviating the nerves from someone like you're very into
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Speaker 1: by having sex with someone that you like you already know,
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Speaker 1: isn't you already? Yeah, Like that's kind of how I
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Speaker 1: feel about um. When I had plans with someone to
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Speaker 1: hook up this weekend and like an hour and a
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Speaker 1: half before they came over, I jerked off and that
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Speaker 1: made it No, It made the sex so much better
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Speaker 1: because I was like, not so like, oh, I've got
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Speaker 1: to get my nut like right now. I was just like,
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Speaker 1: I was very chill. You're making me realize right now
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Speaker 1: that I don't have a lip color on. You have
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Speaker 1: an amazing lip color on right I don't. I just
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Speaker 1: have that is all I have on is lip bomb
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Speaker 1: that is not your natural lip color. Look at my
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Speaker 1: lips next to yours. I look like I look like
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Speaker 1: a corpse. Wow. You look so lush you Wow. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: It's because you know what, I'm so fresh faced because
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Speaker 1: I wasn't in the trenches trying to get Beyonce tickets
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Speaker 1: this weekend. Girl. Okay, I've like I've been waitlisted, even
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Speaker 1: though I'd had three different kinds of preregistration, and I
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Speaker 1: am worried. Virgins, If you have a Beyonce hook up,
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Speaker 1: if you want to add me to your purchasing bundle,
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Speaker 1: if you want to get into the pit with me,
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Speaker 1: if if anybody wants to help me find a Beyonce
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Speaker 1: hook up. I need Beyonce tickets. This is Beyonce. If
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Speaker 1: you're listening, we would love to go to your shows.
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't go. You don't go to I would go
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Speaker 1: to it, you would. You don't even do auditorium shows
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Speaker 1: that much. I mean, I listen lately with all of
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Speaker 1: the ticket buying drama, I'm feeling very good as a
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Speaker 1: person who does not care about going to concerts. But
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Speaker 1: if someone handed me Beyonce tickets, obviously I'm going. I've
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Speaker 1: I've never seen her live before. I mean, and when
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Speaker 1: I say handed me tickets, like if someone said, here
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Speaker 1: are Beyonce tickets you can buy, I was gonna sounds
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Speaker 1: like having to deal with like a whole like rigamarole,
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Speaker 1: like just so the versions. No, I'll pay big money.
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Speaker 1: I'll i will actually do some unspeakable things to you.
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Speaker 1: I'll do I'll do hand stuff. I'll do I'll do
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Speaker 1: feat stuff too. I will absolutely do feat stuff. I will.
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Speaker 1: I'll maybe do some piss. I will sell you my underwear,
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Speaker 1: I will sell you my socks. I will. I will
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Speaker 1: actually do so much. I mean, I draw the line
10:37
Speaker 1: of I draw the line at Scott, but right, I
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Speaker 1: don't negotiable nigstable Um, it's actually so fucked like I'm
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Speaker 1: actually honestly like kind of worried that I won't get
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Speaker 1: Beyonce tickets because I kind of got really lucky with
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Speaker 1: Adele and I got really lucky with Chromatica, and so
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Speaker 1: I feel like, is this the one the most important concert?
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Speaker 1: Out of any concert I would the one that I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to get, Like, I'll be devastated. Ah, girl,
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Speaker 1: did you watch the Grammys yesterday? I did not. I
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Speaker 1: the Grammys are I think have the biggest flop energy
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Speaker 1: of any award show. They always take away too long,
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Speaker 1: the winds and losses are very inconsistent, and it's just
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Speaker 1: like kind of excruciating to watch. So at most I'll
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Speaker 1: usually watch the performance as the next day on YouTube.
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Speaker 1: Um you know, obviously I was on Twitter last night,
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Speaker 1: so I was somewhat aware of what was going on.
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Speaker 1: I know Beyonce I didn't win Album of the Year.
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Speaker 1: I know that we want that twin obliterated. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's the only thing worth discussing. I watched the Grammys
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Speaker 1: because our friend Zack Stafford asked me to watch um
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Speaker 1: over with Sam Sander, So I felt like I was
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Speaker 1: getting like a preliminary episode of vibe Check, which is
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Speaker 1: kind of funny, but yeah, definitely huge flop energy. It's
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Speaker 1: on Golden Globes level of like floppery because they're I
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Speaker 1: think just the Recording Academy is like so busted and
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Speaker 1: they still don't know what the funk they're doing, um
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Speaker 1: watching Harry except this award. Did you see the video
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Speaker 1: at all? No, I completely avoided it. I know that
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Speaker 1: he said something about how people like him don't win
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Speaker 1: awards like this, which is like, yeah, yeah, Phoebe just exclaimed,
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Speaker 1: Um yeah, that's absolutely insane because um, straight white Twinks
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Speaker 1: have been winning awards since the dawn of time. I
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Speaker 1: would like to I would like to bestow my assessment
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Speaker 1: of what I saw on screen that is, like fully
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Speaker 1: just like me thinking about what was happening, but like,
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Speaker 1: I think, what's whack is that, like, out of these
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Speaker 1: album of the year like artists, like the Academy is
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Speaker 1: so much more likely to throw it to like Aba
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Speaker 1: or maybe even cold Play or like or honestly just
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Speaker 1: Adele Again, like I had prepared myself for the grief
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Speaker 1: of Beyonce losing to someone that the Academy just like
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Speaker 1: would award, but the fact that it's Harry for everyone
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Speaker 1: involved is like so embarrassing, And that album was boring
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Speaker 1: as Yes, that album it is a mid ass album
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Speaker 1: with like two songs, two good songs, maybe three, Like
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Speaker 1: it is so forgettable and so not the work of
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Speaker 1: his career and so not worth awarding beyond like a track.
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Speaker 1: And and I think that Harry knew immediately because when
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Speaker 1: you see him getting awarded, it's just like he goes
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Speaker 1: like white in the face, Like you can tell that
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Speaker 1: not only was he not expecting it, but he had
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Speaker 1: not prepared a speech at all. And by the time
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Speaker 1: he had gotten up on stage, you can see he
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Speaker 1: is realizing in real time that he's the most hated
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Speaker 1: man in America. And then and and he's realizing Andy
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Speaker 1: will be done with Yes, he's realizing in real time
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Speaker 1: the optics and implications of his win over someone like Beyonce.
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Speaker 1: Let alone all of the other artists in this category,
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Speaker 1: but Beyonce. Most of all, it is about Beyonce. And
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Speaker 1: let me tell you, the first he gets up there,
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Speaker 1: he's white in the face, he's like dead, scared for
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Speaker 1: his life. And the first thing he says is he
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Speaker 1: goes he goes, well, you know, as recording artists like no,
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Speaker 1: but he's really the best, right, Like he's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: we know what this is so so silly. We don't
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Speaker 1: really call each other the best, Like there's no hierarchy, right,
14:44
Speaker 1: guys like zero self awareness. He stumbles over his words.
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Speaker 1: He realized, he's realizing like how bad this is, and
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Speaker 1: then from his mouth he sputters things like this don't
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Speaker 1: happen to people like me, and then he just like
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Speaker 1: runs away, like he just like disappears behind the crowd.
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Speaker 1: He's like been cut off the mic. Like it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: It is the craziest possible thing for him to have said.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure the second he got of stage, his
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Speaker 1: manager was like, what the fuck did you just do?
15:16
Speaker 1: I also I also heard his performance was bad, terrible.
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Speaker 1: He was asleep at the wheel the first the first
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Speaker 1: like twenty seconds of him singing. I actually thought that
15:26
Speaker 1: something was wrong, that that something really bad had happened,
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Speaker 1: or like something had malfunctioned right before curtain because the
15:33
Speaker 1: first like fifteen to twenty seconds there's it feels like
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Speaker 1: there's something wrong you anybody, anybody who watched, Like I
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Speaker 1: would love to know if I was the only one
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Speaker 1: vibing on that, But I'm like scared for Harry, like
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Speaker 1: that they have just gonna like destroy him. And I
15:45
Speaker 1: know Harry's house is about to be Harry's disasters of
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Speaker 1: it's crumbled, like Beyonce is about to huff and puff
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Speaker 1: and blow that all Dwyn, She's not going to do
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Speaker 1: it because she's so above it. Although I'm sure like
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Speaker 1: the fact that this has happened to her so many
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Speaker 1: any times, like I'm sure it does like fucking wear
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Speaker 1: on her. But she should just never go to the
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Speaker 1: Grammys again, like it's fucked, it really is, and and
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Speaker 1: for her to be there, it's like she doesn't give
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Speaker 1: a fuck, but it's insulting. It is at this point
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Speaker 1: four times over, insulting for her to lose to some schlep. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't think losing to Adele was like sheppy, but
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Speaker 1: the other three that she lost to, which were back
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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift Taylor for Fearless, but that was for I
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Speaker 1: Am Sasha Fears, So like whatever, okay, fine, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do think Fearless is a better album than I
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Speaker 1: Am Sasha Fears. But I was talking to Zack and
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Speaker 1: Sam about this after and like something that we were
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Speaker 1: talking about was just like how I'm like I actually
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Speaker 1: like Harry, like charming young man, a great style. I
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Speaker 1: think he has. He's like on the road to like
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Speaker 1: make better music, but he's just not making the best
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Speaker 1: work of his career right now. I don't think he
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Speaker 1: has even come close to the level that he should
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Speaker 1: be at, considering how celebritized he is, Like I'm much
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Speaker 1: more in interest it in like the celebrity of Harry
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Speaker 1: styles just but I don't. I think his music is average,
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Speaker 1: is fun, and that's why it's so annoying. And so
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Speaker 1: I think that this is a moment that is crystallizing
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Speaker 1: a lot of the problems of Harry and like what
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Speaker 1: we award and when he says things like this don't
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Speaker 1: happen to people like me, it's like no, actually, like yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're like a white cis attractive, like celebrity who has
17:22
Speaker 1: risen to pop stardom, like this happens to thousands, like
17:26
Speaker 1: so many people like you, um and um. The worst
17:30
Speaker 1: part is he did it like while wearing queer, transgender
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Speaker 1: not conforming aesthetic and use that aesthetic to get to
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Speaker 1: the place that he's at and would not be at
17:41
Speaker 1: the place that he's at without that aesthetic. And yet
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Speaker 1: Beyonce is like taking all of these collaborators and people
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Speaker 1: to make something like Renaissance where they are her lateral collaborators,
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Speaker 1: and that could have been awarded instead like something in
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Speaker 1: it that is so much more in good conscience up
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Speaker 1: a kind of a willing heart of like queer and
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Speaker 1: trans like culture and community, and yet gets totally overlooked
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Speaker 1: for something that is so so watered down and so mayonnaise.
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Speaker 1: But you know what, at least Unholy one one truly
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Speaker 1: truly listen. I'm very happy for I'm so happy. I'm
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Speaker 1: happy for Kim. It was so sweet when she shouted
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Speaker 1: out Sophie. But Unholy is one of the worst songs
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Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Yeah, it really, it really is. I
18:32
Speaker 1: mean that song is like, like I do, Okay, here's
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Speaker 1: the real problem that we're not saying. We do not
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Speaker 1: need to hear Sam Smith saying the words I'd be
18:42
Speaker 1: popping it in like the Year of Our Lord, Like
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Speaker 1: it just smells rotten. And I think that Sam Smith's
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Speaker 1: new aesthetic. I know, there's like a lot of chatter
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Speaker 1: about like the new Sam Smith. I think Sam Smith's
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Speaker 1: new asthetic. Lovely love the crystals, love the thongs, the corsets,
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Speaker 1: like I think it's amazing, and I think that this
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Speaker 1: is a much more interesting era of Sam's music than
19:05
Speaker 1: Sam Smith's previous I just don't need to see another
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Speaker 1: tweet that's like, if a skinny white gay war this,
19:12
Speaker 1: y'all would be blah blah blah, shut up, I like stop,
19:17
Speaker 1: Like it's the most base level discourse I just But also,
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Speaker 1: if a skinny white twink was wearing this, I would
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Speaker 1: hate it a lot more like I really would hate
19:27
Speaker 1: it more like what Sam is wearing is still kind
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Speaker 1: of generic, Like this all read like Entourage photo moment
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Speaker 1: that they had. It feels like a watered down version
19:36
Speaker 1: of things we've seen before, from like Valentino or from
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Speaker 1: like certain music videos. It's literally just the bad romance video,
19:43
Speaker 1: and it's it's bad since it's been over ten years
19:47
Speaker 1: since that. Oh my fucking god, Rose, it's fucking bad romance.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even fucking think about all these bitches. Is
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Speaker 1: her son's that's the thing, and Unholy are her little monsters? Also?
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Speaker 1: I hate Unholy? But how do you sleep? Went triple
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Speaker 1: platinum in my home? Speaking of annoying gaze, um, I
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Speaker 1: saw Knock at the Cabin yesterday and it was bad. Right,
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Speaker 1: it was bad. I thought maybe you got to defend
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Speaker 1: some of it. No, it was bad. It was Here's
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Speaker 1: the thing about m Night Chamelon, you know, like you
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Speaker 1: always go into his movies expecting some kind of twist,
20:30
Speaker 1: and the thing about Knock at the Cabin is that
20:32
Speaker 1: there's no twist. And you get the sense that like
20:36
Speaker 1: that's the twist, is that there's no twist. And I
20:41
Speaker 1: hated it. It was so boring. I also went and
20:44
Speaker 1: read the Wikipedia summary of the book that it's based
20:46
Speaker 1: on afterwards, and the it's very different and the plot
20:51
Speaker 1: of the books on it so much more interesting. Um,
20:54
Speaker 1: you know, good performances. I thought Dave Bautisto was really great.
20:57
Speaker 1: The young child actor who plays the gay couple's daughter
21:01
Speaker 1: was very good. Um, the gay guy in the movie
21:04
Speaker 1: who's not Jonathan Groff was hot. Jonathan Groff was Jonathan
21:08
Speaker 1: Groff ing all over the place. He even sang, which
21:11
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's like in his contract because there's a
21:14
Speaker 1: scene where they're like singing along to a song in
21:17
Speaker 1: the car. It was just boring and um, I like
21:22
Speaker 1: could just not have watched it. So wait. So spoiler
21:25
Speaker 1: alert for the Virgins at the end, does the does
21:27
Speaker 1: the world end? No, But it turns out that what
21:32
Speaker 1: they were saying that, So the whole plot of the
21:36
Speaker 1: movie is that, um, these intruders come to this cabin
21:39
Speaker 1: and tell this family the world is going to end
21:42
Speaker 1: unless you decide to sacrifice one of the members of
21:46
Speaker 1: your family. And then they tell them that each of
21:49
Speaker 1: the four people who have come there like will ask
21:53
Speaker 1: them repeatedly if they're going to save the world, and
21:56
Speaker 1: when they say no, that person kills themselves, and then
22:00
Speaker 1: the other like people also kill them and as each
22:04
Speaker 1: person dies, a plague is unleashed onto humanity, and um,
22:09
Speaker 1: like they show them the TV to show that it's
22:11
Speaker 1: actually happening. They're like, no, this can't be real, Like
22:14
Speaker 1: this is a hoax whatever. Um, But at the end
22:17
Speaker 1: of the movie they're like convinced that it's actually happening,
22:21
Speaker 1: and so they do pick one of them to die.
22:25
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the movie, it's just
22:26
Speaker 1: like the apocalypse has been averted and like all these
22:29
Speaker 1: crazy catastrophes happened, but they're over now and ends of them. Yeah,
22:34
Speaker 1: it's it's so bad. They sacrifice a child, No, they
22:38
Speaker 1: sacrifice Jonathan Groff ah, they would, but from the synopsis
22:44
Speaker 1: in the book, what happens in the book is that
22:46
Speaker 1: the child is killed by accident, but it doesn't count,
22:50
Speaker 1: so they still have to kill one of them, and
22:52
Speaker 1: then they ultimately decide not to and to like just
22:55
Speaker 1: let the world end. I also think in the book
22:57
Speaker 1: that they it never becomes clear to them if this
23:00
Speaker 1: is actually happening because they're in such a remote location.
23:04
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just would have preferred that
23:08
Speaker 1: version of the movie, or I would have preferred something
23:10
Speaker 1: that was more ambiguous about whether or not any of
23:12
Speaker 1: this was real. So it just it was very like literal.
23:16
Speaker 1: It was very much like holding the audience's hand all
23:19
Speaker 1: through it. So one he is, He's not in much
23:24
Speaker 1: of it, but he was good. He honestly rupercrant alone
23:29
Speaker 1: would get me to watch the Servant or would suck. Also,
23:33
Speaker 1: one other thing I just wanted to mention briefly is
23:36
Speaker 1: I finally saw the Terry McClair exhibit at the Brooklyn
23:40
Speaker 1: Museum on Friday when my mom was My mom was
23:43
Speaker 1: in town and I took her to it, and it
23:46
Speaker 1: is so cool and beautiful. It's amazing to see those
23:50
Speaker 1: clothes up close. Definitely, if you're in New York go.
23:54
Speaker 1: I believe it's open through May maybe, um, although I
24:00
Speaker 1: will say Brooklyn Museum. The exhibit does not have like
24:03
Speaker 1: a an ending that you walk out of it just
24:06
Speaker 1: kind of like you have to like loop back around
24:09
Speaker 1: and go back through it. It's just like not it's confusing.
24:12
Speaker 1: It's not laid out in in a dynamic way. So
24:16
Speaker 1: this is such a friendly is such a friendly wit
24:18
Speaker 1: stake away? It's like, why did I walk it here?
24:22
Speaker 1: It should be like an amusement park ride, Like there
24:24
Speaker 1: should be an exit, you know, there should be an
24:27
Speaker 1: exit through the gift shop, right. I think museums are
24:30
Speaker 1: maybe intentionally like labyrinthine to get you lost in them. Yeah,
24:34
Speaker 1: but I don't think you should like go to the
24:36
Speaker 1: end of the exhibit and then it's just like there's
24:38
Speaker 1: nothing that's like okay, this is all there is. You
24:41
Speaker 1: just are like, oh, I guess I have to go
24:43
Speaker 1: back through half of the exhibit and then just like
24:46
Speaker 1: walk out a random side door. That was dumb. That
24:50
Speaker 1: was dumb. But great gowns, beautiful gowns. Great gowns, beautiful gowns.
24:55
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go. I'm definitely going. Rose, I
25:14
Speaker 1: am honestly nervous for today's episode, Like I feel like
25:17
Speaker 1: a lot of I have. I feel like a lot
25:19
Speaker 1: of pressure because today we're trying to cover you know,
25:22
Speaker 1: like a patron saint of of culture, Like she is
25:27
Speaker 1: like just an idol among us, Um, Dolly Parton, Like
25:33
Speaker 1: could there be a better celebrity? Like she is the one?
25:37
Speaker 1: To me? She is she is the one, She is
25:39
Speaker 1: the dividual herself. She is mother. She's a mother of time,
25:43
Speaker 1: mother of music, She's everything. She is she contains multitudes,
25:47
Speaker 1: so many and I were not saying that, yes, yes, um, Rose,
25:52
Speaker 1: do you do you have Like do you know what
25:55
Speaker 1: your first memory of Dolly Parton was? Um? I don't
25:58
Speaker 1: know about first memory is, but I can definitely say
26:01
Speaker 1: that Dolly was not a huge afformative musical icon for me.
26:08
Speaker 1: I was always aware of her, like in the background
26:12
Speaker 1: of my cultural experience, but it really wasn't until probably
26:17
Speaker 1: my mid to late twenties that I really started actively
26:25
Speaker 1: searching out Dolly to listen to her music. And Um,
26:32
Speaker 1: I didn't really do like any sort of deep investigation
26:36
Speaker 1: into you know, the woman, the myth, the legend, until
26:40
Speaker 1: I had to interview her a couple of years ago.
26:42
Speaker 1: So I I came very late to the Dolly game.
26:46
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, I think for this episode,
26:48
Speaker 1: I'm probably the virgin, even though like at this point
26:53
Speaker 1: now I do have a much deeper understanding of Dolly
26:57
Speaker 1: Parton and her work and her impact. But you know not,
27:01
Speaker 1: I think sort of the foundational knowledge that you have,
27:05
Speaker 1: right I Okay, So just to like level set with you,
27:08
Speaker 1: I also honestly discovered Dolly. I feel in my adulthood,
27:13
Speaker 1: like my mom's side of the family. As I've said before,
27:16
Speaker 1: it's like all cattle ranchers, like true cowboys in like
27:20
Speaker 1: the West, and so obviously Dolly is like an omnipotent
27:25
Speaker 1: presence in cowbey culture, definitely in the South, like because
27:30
Speaker 1: you're in the West. Maybe I don't know, maybe like
27:33
Speaker 1: it didn't like touch my family as much as like
27:37
Speaker 1: other like country like singer songwriters did, but like, but
27:40
Speaker 1: she is this like kind of god figure that was
27:43
Speaker 1: still in the background of my childhood and I think
27:46
Speaker 1: only until adulthood when you go back and you look
27:49
Speaker 1: at her catalog and you look at like her cultural
27:51
Speaker 1: moon meaning and like what she's accomplished for her with
27:54
Speaker 1: her life. That was when I was just like, oh,
27:57
Speaker 1: like I want a Dolly tattoo, like I Dolly, Like
28:01
Speaker 1: I want to embody Dolly, like she's a hero, Like
28:04
Speaker 1: I just think she's incredible. I love her so much
28:07
Speaker 1: as you do too, obviously. Um. One of the first
28:10
Speaker 1: things I feel like I latched onto was just like
28:12
Speaker 1: how she was a like pre eminent, like I kind
28:16
Speaker 1: of like bimbo culture. Like before it was cool, like yeah,
28:20
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think I
28:22
Speaker 1: understood until I really started going down the Dolly rabbit
28:28
Speaker 1: hole that her bimbo nous was a joke that she
28:32
Speaker 1: was in on. I think I always assumed it was
28:35
Speaker 1: something that had been placed on her and that she
28:38
Speaker 1: only sort of begrudgingly engaged with. And then like, once
28:42
Speaker 1: I started even paying like the remotest bit of attention,
28:45
Speaker 1: I realized, like it wasn't even that she was in
28:48
Speaker 1: on the joke. She was the one making the joke,
28:51
Speaker 1: you know, in in both her music, like the whole
28:54
Speaker 1: Backwoods Barbie persona, and also like a lot of her
28:58
Speaker 1: like iconic late night interviews, like she's always the one
29:01
Speaker 1: who's talking about how huge her tits are. And like
29:03
Speaker 1: making these like you know, bimbo jokes and like she
29:07
Speaker 1: and I'm sure part of that is like she wants
29:09
Speaker 1: to make the joke first before someone else can make it.
29:11
Speaker 1: But like that means that she's always had all the power,
29:14
Speaker 1: Like she she controls her own narrative and she monetizes it.
29:19
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I felt like it just it clues
29:23
Speaker 1: you into like how shrewd and like smart and strategic
29:27
Speaker 1: she is as a person with all the while making
29:30
Speaker 1: it seems so effortless like Dolly's like it costs a
29:33
Speaker 1: lot of money to look this cheap. Is like like
29:35
Speaker 1: everyone everyone says that now you know what I mean.
29:38
Speaker 1: It's like this kind of um these words to live
29:41
Speaker 1: by where in you like don't take yourself too seriously
29:46
Speaker 1: and I think, like live in your power in that moment,
29:50
Speaker 1: Like it's just so incredible and like she's like so
29:53
Speaker 1: whipped smart, Like her jokes are so fucking fast and
29:56
Speaker 1: so quick talking to her as I have gotten a
30:01
Speaker 1: couple of times, like she is absolutely like in control
30:07
Speaker 1: on it at all times, like so funny, so like sharp. Yeah,
30:14
Speaker 1: and like in those late night interviews you're talking about,
30:17
Speaker 1: like she would be on the receiving end of a
30:19
Speaker 1: boob joke and then she would knock a joke back
30:22
Speaker 1: that was like five times funnier, like every time she
30:25
Speaker 1: was funnier than the late night host And like that
30:28
Speaker 1: to me is like part of like her magnanimous and
30:31
Speaker 1: why she's like transcendent time and space for decades, right, Like,
30:35
Speaker 1: um so wait, how much do you know about like
30:37
Speaker 1: the Dolly like history, like you know, like I'm sure
30:41
Speaker 1: by going to Dollywood you kind of get a little
30:43
Speaker 1: bit of a history. Yes, I I know a little bit.
30:46
Speaker 1: I know sort I know, like the you know, Tennessee
30:50
Speaker 1: Mountain Home version of Dolly's Story, which incidentally, that is
30:55
Speaker 1: my favorite Dolly partner song. I love in Materna Theme Mountain.
31:02
Speaker 1: Um so good. Can't wait to get fined for that,
31:05
Speaker 1: but I do. Yeah, Like as we as, I talked
31:10
Speaker 1: about um on our theme park episode with Matt Rogers,
31:14
Speaker 1: which if you haven't listened to it, definitely go listen
31:16
Speaker 1: to the episode. It's very fun. Um I at Dollywood
31:21
Speaker 1: there it is a theme park that like part of
31:25
Speaker 1: part like uh, you know at Disney MGM is like
31:29
Speaker 1: a theme park about movies, and like Animal Kingdom is
31:32
Speaker 1: a theme park about animals, and Dollywood is a theme
31:35
Speaker 1: park about Dolly Parton, and part of it is about
31:37
Speaker 1: creating this like magical, like folk tale mythology of Dolly's life.
31:43
Speaker 1: And there is a recreation of the Tennessee Mountain home
31:47
Speaker 1: in the theme park that you can go and look at,
31:50
Speaker 1: so you and you know, I'm sure it's like somewhat
31:54
Speaker 1: true to life, and I'm sure there's some of it
31:56
Speaker 1: that's like theme park. Iised, but yeah, so I have
32:00
Speaker 1: like a basic understanding of the legend of Dolly Parton
32:04
Speaker 1: and like how poor she was like growing up and
32:07
Speaker 1: you know, her true rags to riches story. I okay, yes,
32:12
Speaker 1: I need to go to Dollywood, by the way, Like
32:14
Speaker 1: I want to go so bad now I really want
32:17
Speaker 1: to go back. So let's go because it it truly
32:19
Speaker 1: is like a gay mecca. Maybe someone can bring us,
32:22
Speaker 1: maybe we can get like Dolly tourism borders. Yeah. And
32:26
Speaker 1: the town it's in, Pigeon Forge so beautiful. I was
32:30
Speaker 1: there in October and it was just like the leaves
32:33
Speaker 1: were changing. It was gorgeous and like it is very
32:36
Speaker 1: cool to see this town that Dolly, you know, by
32:40
Speaker 1: um buying this theme park and turning it into this
32:43
Speaker 1: like destination, um, this travel destination. She totally created this um,
32:49
Speaker 1: you know, like self sustaining economy in this very poor
32:53
Speaker 1: town that she grew up in and like created so
32:56
Speaker 1: many jobs for people. Um. And it's just like she is.
33:01
Speaker 1: She's a fucking superhero. She is like over and over again,
33:05
Speaker 1: time and time again, she's proven that she is so
33:09
Speaker 1: fucking consistent and what she believes in and what she
33:12
Speaker 1: stands for and what she wants to accomplish with her life.
33:15
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, the Tennessee Mountain Home mythology, yes,
33:19
Speaker 1: is a mythology, but like her story really is like magical.
33:23
Speaker 1: Like I don't know anybody who is even remotely interested
33:27
Speaker 1: in the life of Dolly Parton. Please go listen to
33:30
Speaker 1: Jada boom Rad's Dolly Parton's America, which is a podcast
33:34
Speaker 1: series that, to me, is one of the best, if
33:38
Speaker 1: not the best, portrait of a celebrity I'd ever seen
33:41
Speaker 1: in any medium. It's like listened to in any medium.
33:44
Speaker 1: It's so fucking good. It is very good. I didn't
33:48
Speaker 1: listen to it. I didn't listen to the whole thing,
33:50
Speaker 1: but I listened to most of it because I think
33:52
Speaker 1: it was coming out around the time that I went
33:55
Speaker 1: to interviewed her. So I was very intrigued. Right, it's okay,
34:00
Speaker 1: it's so good. But like, yeah, she you know, she
34:03
Speaker 1: grew up in this little bunk house and she like
34:04
Speaker 1: shared a bed with like nine people or whatever, and like,
34:08
Speaker 1: you know, was like barely feeding herself through the first
34:12
Speaker 1: years of like her music career. And then uh found
34:16
Speaker 1: a kind of like pairing with what is his name,
34:18
Speaker 1: Porter Wagner. It's I love that we don't even know,
34:21
Speaker 1: Like I don't even remember remember his fucking name. Now
34:24
Speaker 1: I need to Porter Wagner. Okay, So she finds she
34:28
Speaker 1: finds this kind of like um creative partnership with Porter
34:31
Speaker 1: Wagner that at the time, at the beginning, was not
34:33
Speaker 1: a creative partnership. Right. It was like Porter was this
34:36
Speaker 1: country star, and at the time, country stars had you know,
34:39
Speaker 1: singing gals that came on and sing a song, but
34:41
Speaker 1: they were like an accessory on the stage, right, like
34:44
Speaker 1: you have this little countrywoman. There was this woman named
34:46
Speaker 1: Norma Jean who had sang with him for a while.
34:49
Speaker 1: She quit, I think because of an affair or something.
34:52
Speaker 1: Enter Dolly. He scouts her and he's like, you're gonna
34:55
Speaker 1: be my singing girl now. And then she, you know,
34:58
Speaker 1: over the course of years, starts to outshine him and
35:02
Speaker 1: becomes kind of the true star of their like duet
35:06
Speaker 1: act that becomes like renowned and had a show. It
35:09
Speaker 1: was a TV show. They had a show. They had right,
35:12
Speaker 1: were right, they had exactly exactly sorry, so they were
35:14
Speaker 1: on TV all the time, and then became like the
35:16
Speaker 1: patron saints of the country music world in the very
35:19
Speaker 1: beginning when they like started the Country Music Awards and
35:22
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So like Dolly has been a part
35:25
Speaker 1: of like institutional country music since the beginning in a
35:30
Speaker 1: way that like most stars and music stars can't claim
35:34
Speaker 1: right like she really and yet she's so humble about it.
35:38
Speaker 1: And the way that she I think this is like
35:42
Speaker 1: very evident with the thing we were talking about with
35:44
Speaker 1: like the boob jokes or like um or just like
35:48
Speaker 1: the way. So what I'm trying to say is the
35:49
Speaker 1: way she um overcomes adversity is with so much grace,
35:55
Speaker 1: Like she will never prioritize, like you know, she will
36:00
Speaker 1: never like want to seem like mean or cruel to anyone,
36:03
Speaker 1: Like she knows her own worth and I think that's evident.
36:07
Speaker 1: But like with the Porter Wagner thing, like she was
36:09
Speaker 1: just like, look, Porter, like you made me who I
36:12
Speaker 1: am and I, you know, maybe have you to think
36:15
Speaker 1: for a lot of my success, but like I'm a
36:17
Speaker 1: star and this is my goodbye. And she famously wrote
36:20
Speaker 1: like I will always love you about saying goodbye to
36:22
Speaker 1: Porter Wagner and wait for him and he cried, right story, yes,
36:27
Speaker 1: famously office. And I think it's I think if you
36:32
Speaker 1: think about who Dolly is, I think it's absolutely true
36:35
Speaker 1: because she has written, you know, three thousand songs or whatever.
36:39
Speaker 1: So it's giving Glee a little bit that she wanted
36:42
Speaker 1: to his office and saying in this song that made
36:45
Speaker 1: him like decide to let her go. But that's the
36:48
Speaker 1: thing that I love about Dolly is she is kind
36:51
Speaker 1: of Glee, Like she is like magic like this like
36:54
Speaker 1: magical thinking where in like you can break out into
36:57
Speaker 1: song and express your feelings that way. And then at
37:00
Speaker 1: the Antiquechrist And says, okay, sure, like you gotta go
37:04
Speaker 1: um your own kid. You're on your own kid. Yeah,
37:08
Speaker 1: and she still gave him. I think she gave him
37:10
Speaker 1: the song, like she gave him the right or like
37:12
Speaker 1: she gave him a million dollars. There was a settlement.
37:13
Speaker 1: He sued her, she gave him a million dollars. And
37:15
Speaker 1: then when Whitney re recorded the song, she like made
37:19
Speaker 1: that back three times in like one year or something
37:21
Speaker 1: like that, just on the rights alone. So anyways, we
37:26
Speaker 1: should talk a little bit about like Dolly Parton the
37:28
Speaker 1: movie star, because she is a phenomenal movie star. Rose
37:34
Speaker 1: You've seen, You've seen Best Little her House in Texas,
37:38
Speaker 1: and I love I love Best Little Horhouse in Texas.
37:42
Speaker 1: Um love hard Canny Christmas. Oh my god, that song
37:47
Speaker 1: is fucking It's a deep cut. It's actually like a
37:51
Speaker 1: deep deep cut from Dolly, and it's it's not even
37:54
Speaker 1: really a Christmas song. I love five. I actually only
38:00
Speaker 1: watch the first time New Year's Eve going into the
38:06
Speaker 1: New Year's that I spent alone at home, you know,
38:09
Speaker 1: when we were in like the deepest darkest pits of
38:14
Speaker 1: of like COVID fear in l a um. So thanks
38:18
Speaker 1: Dolly for getting me through that. And also after a
38:21
Speaker 1: full year of like understanding crystal clearly that every job
38:25
Speaker 1: sucks and that we as a society should move on
38:27
Speaker 1: from nine to five jobs, which was the America that
38:31
Speaker 1: Dolly imagine for all all of us, Yes, and nine
38:34
Speaker 1: to five. I mean, you know, like the thing about
38:37
Speaker 1: anything having to do with Dolly and what I love
38:39
Speaker 1: about her is there's always some story that's like been
38:46
Speaker 1: extracted from that that like gets paired with it. So
38:48
Speaker 1: like when you think about nine to five, you think
38:50
Speaker 1: about like Dolly with her nails, like nas like in
38:54
Speaker 1: the nails, and like there's always something like that because
38:58
Speaker 1: she's had this long career in which she's been so
39:02
Speaker 1: deeply intertwined with her own work, and like Dolly is
39:06
Speaker 1: a woman who tells her own story. Uh so there's
39:11
Speaker 1: you can always like remember some like cute or funny
39:15
Speaker 1: or moving little anecdote about anything she's done. And I
39:18
Speaker 1: think that's beautiful. I feel like Dolly has always been
39:38
Speaker 1: ahead of her time, and it's like rarely credited to that,
39:42
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, like you said, like
39:45
Speaker 1: our first impression of Dolly's like huge tits big wig,
39:48
Speaker 1: And if we don't know anything else about her, we
39:51
Speaker 1: don't know anything else about her. But if you do,
39:53
Speaker 1: you know that like she was writing these kind of
39:57
Speaker 1: um stories about like women with pregnancy who ruin their lives,
40:01
Speaker 1: like she was writing songs about suicide and like with
40:05
Speaker 1: nine to five, like this was this was like a
40:08
Speaker 1: kind of feminist like feminist anti capitalists. Yes, like that was. Yes,
40:16
Speaker 1: that was so like on exactly the cusp of like feminism.
40:20
Speaker 1: And she was also like third wave feminism before third
40:23
Speaker 1: wave feminism, where she was just like, yeah, I have
40:26
Speaker 1: tits and also I can like exercise like any any
40:30
Speaker 1: right I want as like a woman. God, she's just
40:34
Speaker 1: like always been like that, Like I fucking love it is.
40:37
Speaker 1: You know, it's hyper femininity as power, um as strength.
40:44
Speaker 1: Do you do you remember the plot of Best Little
40:46
Speaker 1: Horhouse of Texas? No, okay, let me tell you. The
40:50
Speaker 1: plot of this movie is Dolly Parton has the best
40:55
Speaker 1: little horhouse in Texas. She has the best horrors. Everyone
40:57
Speaker 1: in town comes to this horhouse because she provides the
41:00
Speaker 1: best service, the best experience, and there are no pimps here.
41:04
Speaker 1: Like the men don't control the money. She controls the money,
41:07
Speaker 1: and I think that's so beautiful. The plot is basically
41:11
Speaker 1: like she's sleeping with the sheriff, which is why the
41:14
Speaker 1: whole house is protected in Texas, and all of a sudden,
41:18
Speaker 1: this kind of like radical gay purist starts coming for
41:23
Speaker 1: the Horehouse and it's like this is like, you know,
41:25
Speaker 1: desecrating our town and it can't be here, and the
41:28
Speaker 1: cops fight this radical purist to protect these sex workers.
41:36
Speaker 1: Is that whild Like it's like it's like cops like
41:39
Speaker 1: finding corruption in a way that protects sex workers. Like
41:43
Speaker 1: it's actually so whackadoodle to watch an experience because you're like,
41:47
Speaker 1: this is a fantasy, um. But it also made me
41:50
Speaker 1: wonder like what a modern day Best Little hore House
41:53
Speaker 1: in Texas adaptation would look? Like I don't know that
41:56
Speaker 1: it could exist today. No, no, I I think I
41:59
Speaker 1: think one maybe something in the eighties, Like I would
42:02
Speaker 1: love to watch the Best Little Horhouse, but it's like
42:05
Speaker 1: in the eighties, you know what I mean, like set
42:09
Speaker 1: in the eighties, set in the eighties. Yeah, instead of
42:12
Speaker 1: like the like the I don't know when it takes
42:14
Speaker 1: ye old ye yeah, ye old have you? I mean,
42:25
Speaker 1: Best Little Horhouse in Texas is basically West World. Wait, yeah,
42:32
Speaker 1: we should we need it. We actually need a West World.
42:35
Speaker 1: We need a dystopian Best Little Horhouse in Texas. We
42:37
Speaker 1: need the last of Us. I mean that's just West World.
42:41
Speaker 1: That's just west World. Yeah it is. Oh wait, yeah,
42:43
Speaker 1: I've never seen west World, so like I actually wasn't
42:46
Speaker 1: connecting the dots there ye old ye old yew times.
42:50
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, have you seen um stee Magnolias. So
42:54
Speaker 1: this has become a point of contention between my mother
42:56
Speaker 1: and I. I have never seen still magnoli Is in totality. Um,
43:02
Speaker 1: I have seen parts of it. I'm surprised this didn't
43:06
Speaker 1: come up during our Julia Roberts episode. But I've never
43:10
Speaker 1: watched the whole film. I am shook. I'm shook arena.
43:14
Speaker 1: I am legend of Zelda, shook Arena of time. I
43:16
Speaker 1: am literally like I have no I literally like it
43:22
Speaker 1: does feel like such another like canonically Rose movie and
43:26
Speaker 1: I but Robert, I don't like like a I don't
43:29
Speaker 1: like a sad movie like that. You know it is
43:32
Speaker 1: too sad. Yeah, Julia Roberts having a seizure and she does.
43:37
Speaker 1: I think she dies at the end spoiler alert. I
43:39
Speaker 1: actually don't even remember. But the ensemble like a cost
43:43
Speaker 1: cast Dolly, Julia Um, God, Sally Field, Shirley McClain god. Um.
43:52
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I I think that like what
43:55
Speaker 1: Dolly injects into I think the thing about Reboots actually
43:59
Speaker 1: is like what Dolly injects into all three of those
44:02
Speaker 1: movies we talked about, like cannot be replicated. Like there's
44:06
Speaker 1: no woman, man, anyone that can bring what Dolly brings
44:10
Speaker 1: to any sort of project, because she is a once
44:14
Speaker 1: in a lifetime person um not just as not just
44:19
Speaker 1: as this kind of like charismatic, like larger than life,
44:22
Speaker 1: like most memorable person in the room way, but also
44:25
Speaker 1: like she's a genius like I can't remember who said this,
44:28
Speaker 1: but like but it's like if she was writing classical music, right,
44:31
Speaker 1: if she had written three thousand classical songs, like we
44:33
Speaker 1: would be calling her Mozart, like she is mention level genius.
44:39
Speaker 1: Well and not. And not only is she and an
44:41
Speaker 1: INCREDI an incredible, brilliant, show stopping, never never, never done
44:46
Speaker 1: before artist, she's incredible at branding and marketing. Like yes,
44:51
Speaker 1: she she literally has a theme park, like she has
44:57
Speaker 1: created the mythology of herself so incredibly that it has
45:02
Speaker 1: endured through multiple generations. And she is known from you know,
45:10
Speaker 1: my grandparents too, kids who just saw her on Miley's
45:14
Speaker 1: Rock and New Year's Eve or whatever the funk it
45:16
Speaker 1: was called. Like It's not even that she's necessarily had
45:20
Speaker 1: all these different eras in her career. She just like
45:23
Speaker 1: has always been there. So even when I, like I said,
45:27
Speaker 1: like as a child, as a teenager, like whatever, was
45:31
Speaker 1: not really like searching her out, I still had a
45:36
Speaker 1: basic awareness of who she was, Like I still always
45:39
Speaker 1: knew that I Will Always Love You was a Dolly
45:41
Speaker 1: Parton song like that. It's just sort of part of
45:44
Speaker 1: our like shared cultural unconsciousness, like who Dolly Parton is
45:50
Speaker 1: because she's omnipotent. I also think that she was able
45:54
Speaker 1: to represent God. I hate this sounds so stupid out
45:58
Speaker 1: of context, but like the Deep South is an underrepresented community,
46:02
Speaker 1: like they we don't have stories from the Deep South
46:05
Speaker 1: the way we do of other parts of this country.
46:08
Speaker 1: And I feel like what she brought to the culture
46:11
Speaker 1: was something that was based in this like extremely hidden
46:16
Speaker 1: part of the world and was able to take that
46:20
Speaker 1: and take and make her story the most beloved story
46:23
Speaker 1: in the world. Right Like when we right before we
46:25
Speaker 1: were recorded, we were talking about like, while we were
46:28
Speaker 1: talking about and Roles is like, are you going to
46:29
Speaker 1: talk about the Q score? I was like, fun, So
46:34
Speaker 1: like if you haven't, I've always talked about the fucking
46:37
Speaker 1: Q score, which is this thing that's mentioned in the
46:39
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton's America podcast, which is about this weird valuation
46:43
Speaker 1: of celebrities and like how like they are on the world,
46:45
Speaker 1: or rather how much negative sentiment is around them, and
46:48
Speaker 1: who has the least amount of negative sentiment around them,
46:51
Speaker 1: and like the two at the top are always like
46:53
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton and Adele Um And and I think that that.
46:58
Speaker 1: I think, as you said, her ability to brand herself
47:02
Speaker 1: both strategically and a politically right because she straddles these
47:07
Speaker 1: two halves of the culture. I think it's why she's
47:11
Speaker 1: like always going to be relevant like forever and ever.
47:15
Speaker 1: Um She's able to at least like becoming like Miley's godmother.
47:21
Speaker 1: She was able to take her like you know, base
47:24
Speaker 1: of like fifty something people that grew up with her
47:26
Speaker 1: in the country to go to millennials and people even
47:30
Speaker 1: younger and all of us understand like her cultural impact
47:35
Speaker 1: and meaning and so now it's like the whitest s
47:37
Speaker 1: base possible. Oh God, I love her and Miley. I
47:40
Speaker 1: love that song rainbow Land, I have no shame. I
47:43
Speaker 1: love the Malibu album. I think it's so good you
47:47
Speaker 1: famously don't like Younger Younger Now is not Miley's best effort,
47:52
Speaker 1: but there are some good moments on it, and that
47:55
Speaker 1: is one of the better ones that some will make
47:58
Speaker 1: me cry, like we really we have to get you
48:00
Speaker 1: to Dollywood, because not only is Dollywood incredible, but when
48:04
Speaker 1: I was there, I stayed at the Dollywood Hotel. And Um,
48:08
Speaker 1: in at the Dollywood Hotel, so like in in the
48:13
Speaker 1: lobby or something, there is a song there that's locked
48:17
Speaker 1: up in a box that Dolly wrote that will be
48:20
Speaker 1: released on her hundredth birthday, whether she's alive or dead.
48:26
Speaker 1: And I stood and looked at the little box through
48:29
Speaker 1: the window. Oh my god, I have goose bumps. I
48:32
Speaker 1: know it's so it's so fucking cool. And there's just
48:35
Speaker 1: like the hotel, there's like butterflies everywhere. There's a Dolly Spa,
48:40
Speaker 1: there's a like everything is Dolly themed. There's a gift
48:43
Speaker 1: shop where you can buy Dolly stuff. I think I
48:45
Speaker 1: have like a fridge magnet that has Dolly on it.
48:49
Speaker 1: Um I have. I Also when I was there, I
48:52
Speaker 1: was gifted um by not Dolly herself, by her team
48:56
Speaker 1: or maybe she did hand it to me. Um. I
48:58
Speaker 1: have my I have a signed copy of Jolene. I'm
49:04
Speaker 1: so jealous, Oh my god. And I got to interview her,
49:07
Speaker 1: not once, but twice. Yes, Wait, tell me what was
49:09
Speaker 1: your experience, Like what did you I mean to the
49:13
Speaker 1: effect that you can even describe Dolly Parton like it was?
49:16
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible. It was really nice that so
49:19
Speaker 1: so for context, I interviewed her. Um. She had a
49:24
Speaker 1: a limited Netflix series UM called Dolly Parton's called Dolly
49:28
Speaker 1: Parton's heart Strings, which will discuss all these little shows
49:32
Speaker 1: that are each each episode is based on a different
49:35
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton song. Like it's not very good, but because
49:39
Speaker 1: of it, I got to meet Dolly and it was
49:42
Speaker 1: a it was a pretty long press trip. Um. It
49:46
Speaker 1: was a couple of days, and the first thing we
49:48
Speaker 1: did was interview Dolly, which was kind of nice because
49:52
Speaker 1: it was the thing that I was the most stressed
49:53
Speaker 1: out about, see a lot of the way and um,
49:57
Speaker 1: I asked her. I don't even remember what to ask her,
50:00
Speaker 1: maybe like on I'll post the interview on our on
50:03
Speaker 1: the like a virgin Instagram. But she was like very warm,
50:07
Speaker 1: very sweet, like put me right at ease. She you know,
50:10
Speaker 1: sometimes like of course, I asked questions that were like
50:13
Speaker 1: a little gay, a little like pushing the envelope a bit,
50:16
Speaker 1: and she just like was right there with me. Shouldn't
50:19
Speaker 1: answer her everything. Um. And then the second time I
50:24
Speaker 1: interviewed her was they were having a premiere for the
50:28
Speaker 1: show at the theater at Dollywood, UM, and there was
50:33
Speaker 1: a red carpet, and so we got to interview her
50:35
Speaker 1: on the red carpet and what um? I went to
50:41
Speaker 1: interview her. And so at Dollywood there's a museum. There's
50:46
Speaker 1: a Dolly museum that has a hologram of Dolly, and
50:49
Speaker 1: she like comes in like a fairy and it's like hey, y'all.
50:52
Speaker 1: But they also have all of her looks at the museum,
50:57
Speaker 1: like all of her iconic looks, like looks she's worn
51:00
Speaker 1: in movies. They had costumes from best Little her house
51:03
Speaker 1: in Texas, UM, all of her concert looks like Hi.
51:07
Speaker 1: I would physically cry. So when I was interviewing her
51:12
Speaker 1: on the carpet, I was like, Dolly, we got to
51:13
Speaker 1: go to the museum today. And she was like, oh,
51:15
Speaker 1: you would have loved all those clothes. Like she classed
51:18
Speaker 1: me right away. She knew, I mean, she knows she
51:23
Speaker 1: surrounded my bags and day one. Um. Um, but she was.
51:27
Speaker 1: She was amazing. She was very generous with her time
51:30
Speaker 1: to all the journalists that were there. She's super sweet.
51:33
Speaker 1: She's like, looks exactly how you expect her to look.
51:36
Speaker 1: She's very tiny, her tits are huge, her hair is huge,
51:40
Speaker 1: she has like crazy long nails. She is covered up
51:43
Speaker 1: from top to bottom everything. She wears this fucking rhind
51:46
Speaker 1: stone because she famously has has like people say she
51:50
Speaker 1: has like a sleeve of tattoos or whatever, but I
51:52
Speaker 1: know that she is like she doesn't like her tattoos
51:55
Speaker 1: and she covers them up. She probably just doesn't like
51:57
Speaker 1: her arms. Oh yeah, are you going full to ally?
52:00
Speaker 1: Are you like long sleeve only from here? No? No, no,
52:03
Speaker 1: but um, I also don't like my tattoos. Um, but yeah,
52:08
Speaker 1: I do feel like that is like a life goal
52:13
Speaker 1: mischief managed. I have met Dolly not once, but twice,
52:18
Speaker 1: and I got to like touch her, you know. She Yeah,
52:22
Speaker 1: I have touched Dolly Parton. That's crazy to think about,
52:26
Speaker 1: like she Oh god, I okay, wait, since you brought
52:30
Speaker 1: it up, since you brought up heart strings, we you're
52:34
Speaker 1: now reminding me that Dolly Parton and who gave us
52:38
Speaker 1: heart Strings also gave the culture the whole halways smells
52:43
Speaker 1: like come, which was uttered via one Tricksie Mattel. I
52:49
Speaker 1: was in the room for that moment. Were you in
52:50
Speaker 1: the room for that moment? I don't remember. Back in
52:53
Speaker 1: the Netflix days, if you haven't seen Tricksie and Katya,
52:56
Speaker 1: watch this episode of Heartstrings. It's like the funniest fucking
52:59
Speaker 1: that episod is no longer on the official Netflix. You're
53:03
Speaker 1: two right, you have to take it down because of
53:05
Speaker 1: like copyright stuff. Yeah, you have to. You have to
53:08
Speaker 1: watch the you have to watch the bootleg version. But
53:10
Speaker 1: it is definitely the most iconic. Um. I like to
53:13
Speaker 1: watch episode for sure. Oh yeah, Trixie sells pillows. Now
53:17
Speaker 1: that's say the whole hallway smells like like um, which
53:21
Speaker 1: it does. Um Wait, did you see um I'm sorry
53:24
Speaker 1: to bring Did you see Dolly parton Christmas? Her Christmas
53:28
Speaker 1: in the Square? The Square? Yes? I did watch it.
53:31
Speaker 1: Um you know what is it about? It's like it's
53:36
Speaker 1: it's it's about Christine Baranski's is like a mean, high
53:41
Speaker 1: powered businesswoman who who um like, owns most of the
53:46
Speaker 1: town she grew up in and she goes back over
53:49
Speaker 1: Christmas and Dolly Parton's her fairy godmother. I want to say, um,
53:54
Speaker 1: And you know, Christine Baranski like learns life lessons and
53:58
Speaker 1: learns to love again and saves the town. And it
54:02
Speaker 1: is a musical. The music is fine. Christine, I'm sure
54:11
Speaker 1: is amazing. It's Christine is great. Dolly is great. She's
54:16
Speaker 1: like at one point she's very tiny. She's like in
54:19
Speaker 1: the cup holder and Christine Brandci's call her. That's sounds amazing.
54:26
Speaker 1: That's actually rose that That wasn't movie magic. That's actually
54:31
Speaker 1: how big Dolly Parton is in real life. Like that
54:34
Speaker 1: was that is actually when I interviewed her, I held
54:38
Speaker 1: her in my hand. Yeah, in your palm. You're like,
54:40
Speaker 1: hello Dolly, Dolly. Yeah, like Julie Roberts Tinkerbell. Um, okay,
54:47
Speaker 1: I I honestly now want to watch that. Maybe next Christmas.
54:51
Speaker 1: Well maybe I'll get stone and watch it. It sounds
54:53
Speaker 1: like that's a solo journey for you. I don't know
54:57
Speaker 1: that I'll be watching it again. I don't know if
54:59
Speaker 1: it's something that ever needs to be revisited. Slide into
55:10
Speaker 1: our d m s and let us know what's your
55:12
Speaker 1: favorite Dolly Parton song. What's your favorite Dolly Parton movie? Um,
55:16
Speaker 1: do you identify as um Backwoods Barbie or do you
55:22
Speaker 1: identify as the Backwoods barb? Um Backwoods barb Next week
55:27
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55:30
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