Latest / Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar / 2/2/26: Epstein Pushed Palantir To Former Israeli PM, Prince Andrew, Bari Weiss, Pizza Codewords
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- 0:29Speaker 1: dot com. Okay, turning now to the intelligence connections. We've
- 0:36Speaker 1: collated all of the most important stuff and we're going
- 0:39Speaker 1: to lead off with an extraordinary bit of audio in
- 0:41Speaker 1: which Epstein appears to have secretly recorded a meeting between
- 0:45Speaker 1: himself and between Aide Barock, the former Prime Minister of Israel,
- 0:48Speaker 1: talking here to Aid Barock specifically about the company Palanteer.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
- 0:54Speaker 3: He thought there was two cyber companies look at and
- 0:58Speaker 3: even though I know Peed ever met Peter tal and
- 1:02Speaker 3: everybody says he sort of jumps around and.
- 1:04Speaker 4: Actually strange like a drugs smoking Yeah, he looks.
- 1:10Speaker 3: However, he is a company called Pallenteer.
- 1:14Speaker 5: P A l l E n.
- 1:17Speaker 3: T E t I E R Palenteers, Peter Tal's company.
- 1:21Speaker 4: And look out t p A n A n t
- 1:24Speaker 4: I L Yes, how I T t h I.
- 1:34Speaker 5: T h I E l l l y no p
- 1:39Speaker 5: t h I e l l okay.
- 1:45Speaker 3: So he thought that Peter would put you on the
- 1:47Speaker 3: board of Pallenteer. Peter Tal is one of the best.
- 1:50Speaker 3: I've never met him. He's going to come here next week,
- 1:53Speaker 3: so I wanted to talk to him and talk to you.
- 1:58Speaker 3: He and Andreason. It's called Andres and Horowitz. And that's
- 2:04Speaker 3: what they pay Larry a million dollars a year just
- 2:08Speaker 3: to advice and A N.
- 2:13Speaker 1: D R E E.
- 2:16Speaker 3: S O N Andreasen and Horowitz.
- 2:21Speaker 4: And how would h O R O Horrowitz horror. Well, there,
- 2:28Speaker 4: low beast.
- 2:29Speaker 3: What they are the biggest venture capital people in Silicon Valley,
- 2:37Speaker 3: bigger than plan These are the these these are the
- 2:41Speaker 3: new klan of Perkins everybody. These are the smart boys. Yeah,
- 2:49Speaker 3: so those two companies right away in terms of I
- 2:52Speaker 3: said that we need now in the next three weeks
- 2:56Speaker 3: if you're gonna.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Leave very important. Find that. And then that was from
- 3:00Speaker 1: a multiple hour clip. So I don't even know who
- 3:02Speaker 1: went through that. Props to whoever did, but you can
- 3:06Speaker 1: see there Epstein advising Ayud Barock. Aid Brock is the
- 3:09Speaker 1: former Prime Minister of Israel is also a former head
- 3:11Speaker 1: of military intelligence. Founded a security company which of course
- 3:14Speaker 1: was invested in by Jeffrey Epstein, which has long been
- 3:16Speaker 1: a suspected intelligence Mosad potential connection. Let's continue spelling the spelling.
- 3:22Speaker 6: They're all the spelling extraordinary, disastrous.
- 3:23Speaker 1: But I mean that's part of the crazy part is
- 3:26Speaker 1: like the idea this was some sort of genius. He's
- 3:27Speaker 1: literally an imbecile. At least from what we could see here.
- 3:30Speaker 1: He was just good at one thing, and that one
- 3:32Speaker 1: thing was appearing to be very socially connected and of
- 3:35Speaker 1: course his own disgusting predilections. Let's go to the next one.
- 3:38Speaker 1: I found this actually in the files. This is an
- 3:41Speaker 1: exchange between aud Barock and Epstein. I'll set the stage.
- 3:45Speaker 1: This is ahead of a meeting with a Katari investment
- 3:48Speaker 1: fund and he says, Hi, Jeff, are you going to
- 3:51Speaker 1: be in London on Thursday, Epstein replies, unfortunately not you
- 3:55Speaker 1: should make clear I don't work for Masad smiley face.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Aude Brock says you or I question mark, and Epstein
- 4:04Speaker 1: says that I don't smiley face, Okay, okay, that you
- 4:09Speaker 1: should make clear, by the ways, completely unprompted ahead of
- 4:12Speaker 1: a meeting apparently with the Kataris for a major investment deal,
- 4:15Speaker 1: where he's like, hey, just make clear that I don't
- 4:17Speaker 1: work for Mosad. So clearly, what do they think he
- 4:20Speaker 1: works for Mosad?
- 4:21Speaker 2: Well, and Ryan made the comment here He's like, yeah,
- 4:24Speaker 2: he doesn't.
- 4:25Speaker 6: That's true, he doesn't work for Massad.
- 4:26Speaker 2: It's more like Massad works for him, right, Yeah, that's
- 4:30Speaker 2: that's Ryan's assessment.
- 4:31Speaker 1: That was Ryan's yeah assessment. So yeah, I mean, I
- 4:33Speaker 1: guess technically correct, right, whenever it comes to that, this
- 4:36Speaker 1: is the next one. In nineteen ninety nine, Epstein anonymously
- 4:40Speaker 1: foyd the CIA to obtain all CIA records that might
- 4:45Speaker 1: reflect an open or otherwise acknowledged agency affiliation between himself
- 4:51Speaker 1: in the CIA. In twenty eleven, he wrote again to
- 4:54Speaker 1: see if CIA had acknowledged any links with him in
- 4:58Speaker 1: the twelve years since. Now, why why would somebody do
- 5:01Speaker 1: that if there was no connection at all. By using
- 5:05Speaker 1: the lawyer, he had to go through the Privacy Act
- 5:07Speaker 1: that ensured that the public would not know that Epstein
- 5:09Speaker 1: was the requester of CIA records. This is all from
- 5:12Speaker 1: Mike Benz and all the correspondence would remain between the
- 5:14Speaker 1: CIA and Epstein's law firm. So, as you can show out,
- 5:17Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy that you're even foiaing the CIA back
- 5:21Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine asking for any records about yourself.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Why would you want any sort of acknowledgment from the
- 5:29Speaker 1: CIA of your potential prior past service. And this is
- 5:32Speaker 1: why remember the year ninety nine. This is years after
- 5:36Speaker 1: where many of us who have been researching and studying
- 5:39Speaker 1: the case have suspected when his intelligence connections began in
- 5:42Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, and there was that alleged involvement with
- 5:46Speaker 1: the arms traffickers from Douglas Leece to the Kashogi's ad
- 5:49Speaker 1: Non Koshogi. You had his potential involvement here with some
- 5:52Speaker 1: Iran contra financing deals back in the nineteen eighties, the
- 5:56Speaker 1: ability to move money around Steve Hoffenberg and the prior
- 5:59Speaker 1: associate there with moving money offshore, a skill, very very
- 6:03Speaker 1: important for the US intelligence community nineteen ninety nine, before
- 6:08Speaker 1: again the conviction. So there the potential of why exactly
- 6:11Speaker 1: he's foying his own records. There's multiple things, right, he
- 6:13Speaker 1: could be trying to force them to acknowledge their relationship
- 6:16Speaker 1: with him. He could be trying to put them on
- 6:17Speaker 1: notice for his relationship now previously, but following up back
- 6:21Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, there is some Again this is my
- 6:23Speaker 1: own personal suspicion. My suspicion, and this is backed up
- 6:27Speaker 1: a little bit by some other analysis, is that he
- 6:29Speaker 1: was furious potentially that they had cut association with him
- 6:33Speaker 1: potentially around that time after his conviction. I remember, they
- 6:36Speaker 1: potentially may have gotten him out of the conviction, or
- 6:38Speaker 1: some sort of intelligent connection might have gotten him the
- 6:40Speaker 1: sweetheart deal. But by twenty eleven, he's jonesing to either
- 6:43Speaker 1: try and force him to acknowledge the relationship, to bring
- 6:46Speaker 1: him back in and or potentially threaten to reveal some
- 6:49Speaker 1: of what he knows. But it is open and shut, insane.
- 6:52Speaker 1: The Foyer record from nineteen ninety nine, prior to any conviction,
- 6:56Speaker 1: prior to any even investigation into Epstein, that is a
- 7:00Speaker 1: clear cut clearly shows some sort of association that happened
- 7:04Speaker 1: to exist at that time. This is not something they're
- 7:06Speaker 1: going to acknowledge anyway, even in some sort of a foila.
- 7:09Speaker 1: It seemed to have been putting them on notice, potentially
- 7:11Speaker 1: trying to restart something. But at the very least it
- 7:13Speaker 1: does show that some sort of connection, at least an
- 7:15Speaker 1: Epstein mind, had believed to have been there for many,
- 7:18Speaker 1: many years, going back almost you have more than twenty
- 7:20Speaker 1: years ago.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I mean, if you think about it, you know,
- 7:22Speaker 2: you're the CIA. You don't really want people to know
- 7:25Speaker 2: you're connecting with Jevery Epstein for a variety of reasons,
- 7:29Speaker 2: and so could very well have been, you know, a
- 7:32Speaker 2: little shot across the bow of you know, hey, this
- 7:35Speaker 2: could all be made public, and I know that you know,
- 7:39Speaker 2: and so I'm just sending this in so that you
- 7:41Speaker 2: see it. And so it's almost like, you know, could
- 7:44Speaker 2: could have been almost like a threat. And we know
- 7:47Speaker 2: the way he operates, right this very manipulative, very strategic
- 7:51Speaker 2: sending himself all those emails into his inbox about various
- 7:54Speaker 2: dirty secrets of the billionaires and other elites.
- 7:57Speaker 6: That he knows.
- 7:58Speaker 2: This could have been similar type behavior like a threat
- 8:03Speaker 2: aimed at the apparatus of the CIA.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Right. The other reason why I think it's very important
- 8:07Speaker 1: is that we know from the CIA's behavior. I talked
- 8:10Speaker 1: about this previously. With the CIA in many cases which
- 8:13Speaker 1: involved like say c SAM material, Okay, what they would
- 8:17Speaker 1: do is they would almost never have those cases go
- 8:20Speaker 1: to trial, like when their agents were involved.
- 8:22Speaker 6: Why.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Because they can never have their agents go into open court.
- 8:25Speaker 1: They're terrified because they don't want their sensitive material to
- 8:28Speaker 1: ever be released, let's say, in an open trial, because
- 8:31Speaker 1: that would be public. So almost certainly what we know
- 8:34Speaker 1: in multiple cases, they would pressure the DOJ and the FBI.
- 8:37Speaker 1: They go, guys, I know this is heinous. We need
- 8:38Speaker 1: to strike a complete deal. This cannot go to trial.
- 8:41Speaker 1: This guy needs to go to federal prison and in exchange,
- 8:43Speaker 1: he gets a few years shaved off of a sentence
- 8:45Speaker 1: and we all walk happy. This is multiple instances where
- 8:47Speaker 1: we've seen stuff like this. This is a reason why
- 8:50Speaker 1: this heinous activity comes hand in glove with a lot
- 8:53Speaker 1: of intelligence because you can usually get away with it
- 8:55Speaker 1: and you can leverage your connections. It gets to the
- 8:57Speaker 1: potential of the sweetheart deal. But I do think the
- 8:59Speaker 1: FOIA is one of the most important for our own intelligence.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Not to mention, foreign intelligence is now keeping with the
- 9:05Speaker 1: foreign intelligence. Let's go to D three. This is again
- 9:08Speaker 1: directly contradictory of a lot of the stuff that FBI
- 9:11Speaker 1: cash PTELM all those had previously told us. So here
- 9:13Speaker 1: we are. This's an email I found in the files
- 9:17Speaker 1: where Epstein emails. You can see the Russian there. He says,
- 9:19Speaker 1: how are you? I need a favor. There is a
- 9:22Speaker 1: Russian girl from Moscow. She is attempting to blackmail a
- 9:25Speaker 1: group of powerful businessmen in New York. It is bad
- 9:28Speaker 1: for business for everyone involved. She arrived New York Saturday
- 9:33Speaker 1: last week, staying at the Four Seasons on fifty seventh Street.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Dot dot Dot suggestions question mark, So on its face threatening, right,
- 9:42Speaker 1: why is he listening to her address? He says, Hey,
- 9:45Speaker 1: this is bad for business. I need this to go away.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Here's her address, by the way, here's where she's staying.
- 9:50Speaker 1: She's Russian. The guy's email, he's Russian. I need some
- 9:54Speaker 1: help with this, okay, I need a favor, all right?
- 9:56Speaker 1: So this is literally like mob talk. Well, if you
- 9:58Speaker 1: look a little bit deeper, it's even crazier. So let's
- 10:01Speaker 1: put the next one up here on the screen. So
- 10:03Speaker 1: this was Epstein's ties with an FSB Academy graduate. Remember
- 10:08Speaker 1: that Russian that I mentioned previously when we're talking about
- 10:11Speaker 1: the Peter teelcase. This guy's name is Saragei Belyakhov, who
- 10:15Speaker 1: is then the Deputy Minister of Economic Development, later the
- 10:19Speaker 1: head of the Saint Petersburg Economic Forum Foundation, which runs
- 10:23Speaker 1: the Saint Petersburg International Economic Forum. Became the norm for
- 10:27Speaker 1: female escorts from all over Russia to be present at
- 10:30Speaker 1: the forum. Belyakhov is the graduate of the FSB Academy,
- 10:34Speaker 1: which prepares Russian intelligence officers. At the Dossier Center discovered
- 10:39Speaker 1: he helped Epstein to deal with the Russian model who
- 10:42Speaker 1: was blackmailing American businessman, as well as proposing to arrange
- 10:46Speaker 1: meetings with multiple like senior officials inside of Russia. For
- 10:51Speaker 1: his part, Epstein would then advise him on saving the
- 10:54Speaker 1: Russian economy amid imposed sanctions, while also recruiting high profile
- 10:59Speaker 1: guests for the Saint Petersburg Economic Form. So you can
- 11:03Speaker 1: see clearly I need this rush. She's attempting to blackmail people.
- 11:06Speaker 1: I need some suggestions. According to Epstein, the powerful men
- 11:09Speaker 1: were taking the advantage of women like her. Belyakov responded swiftly,
- 11:13Speaker 1: sending a profile of her just days later, and he
- 11:17Speaker 1: lists her colleagues. Nobody behind her, he says, doesn't appear
- 11:21Speaker 1: to be working with anybody else. Deny of the access
- 11:24Speaker 1: to the US would be a great threat to her business.
- 11:27Speaker 1: So what he's doing is that he is compiling some
- 11:30Speaker 1: sort of dossier inside of Russia and sending it over
- 11:33Speaker 1: to Epstein. So this is again you have a Russian
- 11:36Speaker 1: intelligence official. By the way, even in general, you don't
- 11:38Speaker 1: become a senior official inside of Russia like this without
- 11:42Speaker 1: some sort of patronage, right from Putin, from anybody from
- 11:45Speaker 1: like any of the oligarch class. Epstein's connection here, and
- 11:48Speaker 1: there's so many emails with Russian girls that are in there,
- 11:51Speaker 1: just in terms of his own depravity. And so this
- 11:54Speaker 1: now we have Mosad at the top that we talked
- 11:57Speaker 1: about CIA, and here's fs Be and not to mention
- 12:01Speaker 1: the Kataris and all of these other people that we
- 12:03Speaker 1: have talked about. And that's why I think it's very important.
- 12:05Speaker 1: You know, you said the Mosada works for him in
- 12:07Speaker 1: a certain sense, like he was never some clearcut employee
- 12:10Speaker 1: and or asset. He floated above in this universe where
- 12:13Speaker 1: he was connected to everybody, including the arms traffickers and everything.
- 12:17Speaker 1: And I think that what this does is back up
- 12:19Speaker 1: and show where he's using these intelligence network obviously on
- 12:23Speaker 1: behalf of himself and his powerful businessman friends were being blackmailed.
- 12:26Speaker 1: You have this previous joke joke, right, Please don't say
- 12:28Speaker 1: I work for mosat CIA foya. I mean, I don't
- 12:31Speaker 1: know what else you need here to see very clearly
- 12:33Speaker 1: like this is in no way somebody who was not
- 12:36Speaker 1: connected to multiple intelligence agencies on its face, very clearly,
- 12:41Speaker 1: especially when we continue and show everybody all of the
- 12:44Speaker 1: other stuff he was doing out in the open to
- 12:47Speaker 1: help foreign governments negotiate trade deals, peace agreements, ambassadors ensnaring
- 12:54Speaker 1: this clearly it's part of state craft that was important
- 12:57Speaker 1: to his overall social network.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, let's put the next one up on the
- 13:00Speaker 2: screen because this details with us. I mean, we've talked
- 13:03Speaker 2: so much about the original quote unquote sweetheart deal, and
- 13:05Speaker 2: there had been this, you know, this one allegation anonymous
- 13:11Speaker 2: source to The Daily Beasts, as Glenn points out that
- 13:14Speaker 2: Acosta had said that he was told Epstein belonged to intelligence.
- 13:20Speaker 2: Now we have, because of this release, an FBI report
- 13:24Speaker 2: that describes the same, So I'll read you.
- 13:26Speaker 6: This is from the FBI report.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein was represented by Alan Dershowitz Confidential Human source HS.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Remember Dershowitz telling Alex Acosta, US attorney in Southern District
- 13:37Speaker 2: of Florida at the time that Epstein belonged to both
- 13:40Speaker 2: US and Allied intelligence services. CCHS shared phone calls between
- 13:45Speaker 2: Dershowitz and Epstein, during which he or she took notes.
- 13:48Speaker 2: After these calls, Masad would then call Dershowitz two debrief.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Epstein was close to the former Prime Minister of Israel,
- 13:54Speaker 2: Ahud Barack and trained as a spy under him. Barack
- 13:58Speaker 2: believed Net Yahoo was a criminal Saudi Arabians. That gets
- 14:01Speaker 2: into the internal Israeli politics. Saudi Arabia, Israel and the
- 14:04Speaker 2: UAE are allied against Guitar Turkey Iron in Syria. One
- 14:07Speaker 2: of CCHS is Blank, who presumably worked. Blank asked CHS
- 14:12Speaker 2: a lot of questions about Epstein. CCHS became convinced Epstein
- 14:15Speaker 2: was a co opted Mosad agent. So this is from
- 14:20Speaker 2: an FBI report. It does say that some phone calls
- 14:24Speaker 2: were shared by the source here to the FBI, so
- 14:29Speaker 2: there was at least some evidentiary backup. But you know,
- 14:32Speaker 2: if you put this together with that Daily Beast anonymous report,
- 14:36Speaker 2: you start to have more indications here, especially when you
- 14:39Speaker 2: put together all of the other reporting that you've done,
- 14:41Speaker 2: that Ryan's done, of all of the connections that we have,
- 14:44Speaker 2: the fact that he's foying himself and his CIA connections, etc.
- 14:48Speaker 1: I have another one, go ahead. This literally just came across.
- 14:51Speaker 1: I just pulled it up from the file. So at
- 14:53Speaker 1: one point somebody had sent Epstein an email or to
- 14:57Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, or so Steve Bann about alex Acosta in
- 15:00Speaker 1: mentions some of the alex Acosta letting by Epstein off.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Epstein just replies to Bannon, do you know Bill Barr
- 15:07Speaker 1: A period CIA dot period. That's it. That's all I said.
- 15:11Speaker 1: And yeah, and remember, by the way, Bill Barr was
- 15:13Speaker 1: the Attorney General at the time, not at the CIA. However,
- 15:16Speaker 1: his father is a long time you know, CIA intelligence
- 15:20Speaker 1: connected official and also the person who literally hired Jeffrey
- 15:24Speaker 1: Epstein whenever he was for his very first job, just
- 15:27Speaker 1: so everybody.
- 15:28Speaker 6: When he had no credittions or business getting.
- 15:30Speaker 1: That job as a teacher. Right, So just show everybody
- 15:33Speaker 1: again again where this all starts.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Imagining a high schooler and Jeffrey Epstein was your teacher.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Yeah, actually no, there were some. Yeah, they got harassed.
- 15:41Speaker 1: That's part of the reason he believe yep. Yeah, it's sick.
- 15:44Speaker 1: There's a report about it actually from a few years ago.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Let's continue here with some of this stuff. Let's put
- 15:49Speaker 1: D six up here on the scheme. This is from
- 15:51Speaker 1: drop site. Quote leadership would like your help. Indian billionaire
- 15:55Speaker 1: tapped Epstein before Mody's visits to the US and Israel.
- 15:58Speaker 1: So clearly some of the Indian billionaires got word, hey,
- 16:02Speaker 1: there's this guy. He knows a lot of people. Maybe
- 16:04Speaker 1: you can help people exactly with what's going on here.
- 16:07Speaker 1: And you had somebody who again is asking for some
- 16:11Speaker 1: advice and giving it to the Indian government about how
- 16:13Speaker 1: they should react with respect to Israel to try and
- 16:16Speaker 1: get some more favorable view here in the United States.
- 16:20Speaker 1: And it was actually uh Anil Ambani. The dropside is
- 16:24Speaker 1: reporting here. An Indian billionaire closely with the BJP government
- 16:28Speaker 1: sent Epstein a message that leadership was asking for his
- 16:31Speaker 1: assistance and connecting with senior figures in Trump's orbit ahead
- 16:34Speaker 1: of an upcoming state visit by Modi. At the time,
- 16:37Speaker 1: a'mbanni texted Epstein, Hello, was in Delhi. Leadership, would like
- 16:41Speaker 1: your help for me to help Jared and Bannon asap.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Please advise likely visit to DC by PM in May
- 16:46Speaker 1: to meet Donald. Also assistance on that. Epstein and a'mbanni
- 16:50Speaker 1: then proceeded to set up a time for a chat.
- 16:53Speaker 1: Few messages later on, Bonnie said thanks as always. Epstein replied, fun,
- 16:57Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't know, I'm Banni literally one
- 17:00Speaker 1: of the richest men in all of India, you know,
- 17:03Speaker 1: I mean literally, I mean there's a famous wedding. I
- 17:05Speaker 1: think maybe this guy's son, one of the Bounding family.
- 17:08Speaker 1: You can google it. It was like the most ostentatious
- 17:10Speaker 1: wedding literally in like human history. So that's what we're
- 17:13Speaker 1: talking about. And this goes to the point of the
- 17:15Speaker 1: global financial elite. Let's put D seven up here on
- 17:18Speaker 1: the screen to underscore the UAE connection. So here you have.
- 17:22Speaker 1: This was a crazy one from the files. Epstein was
- 17:26Speaker 1: messaging contacts in real time as the Koshogi story break
- 17:29Speaker 1: and speculated that MBZ had set up MBS Jamal Kashogi
- 17:34Speaker 1: killed on October twelve, second twenty eighteen. By the twelfth
- 17:38Speaker 1: story had come at crisis that day, Epstein email to contact.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Something smells bigger to me. I wouldn't be surprised if
- 17:44Speaker 1: MBZ set him up. Then message somebody else. What I'm
- 17:47Speaker 1: told secondary source is that one of the assassins put
- 17:50Speaker 1: video on his foam and it was hacked. October thirteen,
- 17:52Speaker 1: Epstein says, can they label him a terrorist? Covert? Op
- 17:55Speaker 1: gone bad? Honey trapped turks, question mark, NBZ, question mark.
- 18:00Speaker 1: At the same time a message to Epstein, MBZ asked
- 18:03Speaker 1: me to come over and see him asap, leaving in
- 18:06Speaker 1: the morning. Epstein had sources inside the operation, and clearly
- 18:09Speaker 1: he was following this Gulf intrigue story very closely, especially
- 18:13Speaker 1: because he seems to have been connected to a lot
- 18:16Speaker 1: of these folks well.
- 18:16Speaker 2: And wasn't Epstein connected to Kashogi's was his uncle, who
- 18:20Speaker 2: was the arm stealer involved in around Contra was one
- 18:24Speaker 2: of his earliest sort of like intel connected contacts, That's right,
- 18:29Speaker 2: So it makes sense that he, you know, of course
- 18:30Speaker 2: I knew him, kept those contacts close it's.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Very close with the family, so of MBZ obviously from
- 18:35Speaker 1: the UAE. The Saudi's here involved the Koshogi family as well.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Here's another one. Let's put this up there on the screen.
- 18:40Speaker 1: This is from Emily gray Vine. From her she said,
- 18:43Speaker 1: twenty ten emails from Dan Dubno offering to set up
- 18:46Speaker 1: meetings for Epstein with Israeli hack ears and darp up people.
- 18:50Speaker 1: I designed this so you'd get your questions answered if
- 18:53Speaker 1: you'd help me get mine, he said of a crypto
- 18:56Speaker 1: workshop that he was setting up. All of you can
- 18:59Speaker 1: just there's so many, so many indications. And then turning
- 19:04Speaker 1: now I think to a little bit of his death,
- 19:06Speaker 1: you've also seen some of these indications, for example, about
- 19:09Speaker 1: why exactly he would kill himself. Let's put D nine
- 19:12Speaker 1: up here on the screen. Inside of the files, the
- 19:16Speaker 1: lawyers discussed the possibility of cooperation days before his death.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Less than two weeks before he was found dead, his
- 19:23Speaker 1: lawyers had met with Manhattan federal prosecutors. Somebody who was
- 19:27Speaker 1: about to strike a deal not necessary is you know,
- 19:29Speaker 1: much more necessarily potentially a target than really somebody who was,
- 19:34Speaker 1: you know, on the verge of committing suicide. So you
- 19:36Speaker 1: can see also that he was afraid, you know, of
- 19:39Speaker 1: even returning to his cell in one particular instance that
- 19:42Speaker 1: you also saw in the files. And this fits with
- 19:44Speaker 1: the video that makes no sense that has been released.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Remember Pam Bondi's infamous what did she say is like, Oh,
- 19:49Speaker 1: there was an old system at the time that just
- 19:51Speaker 1: happened to delete like a minute or so of footage.
- 19:53Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, for sure, that's definitely what it is.
- 19:56Speaker 1: We have the videos from CBS about his cell, all
- 19:59Speaker 1: of the stuff about the cell made about the cameras.
- 20:01Speaker 1: I mean, we put all this stuff together. I don't
- 20:03Speaker 1: think it looks like the official story. Anything adds up.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Yeah, So, this Guardian story says less than two weeks
- 20:09Speaker 2: before Epstein's death in jail, lawyers in Manhattan federal prosecutors
- 20:13Speaker 2: met and discussed his potential cooperations, According to several documents
- 20:16Speaker 2: within the cash of files, on July twenty ninth, FBI
- 20:19Speaker 2: and prosecutors met with Epstein's attorneys, who in very general terms,
- 20:22Speaker 2: discussed the possibility of a resolution of the case and
- 20:25Speaker 2: the possibility of the defendant's cooperation. An FBI document titled
- 20:28Speaker 2: Epstein Investigation Submarine timeline stated. Another document titled Jeffrey Epstein's
- 20:33Speaker 2: Significant Case Notification, which was not attributed to a specific agency,
- 20:36Speaker 2: closely resembled this FBI memo provided.
- 20:38Speaker 6: Several more details.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Quote, Defense Council did not make a specific proposal, and
- 20:42Speaker 2: they did not indicate what the nature of Epstein's cooperation
- 20:45Speaker 2: might be, if any, it was suggested Defense Council contact
- 20:49Speaker 2: SDNY Southern District of New York if Epstein was prepared
- 20:52Speaker 2: to accept responsibility for his conduct, and or they had
- 20:55Speaker 2: a specific proposal for a resolution of this case.
- 20:59Speaker 6: So they were at least in talks.
- 21:02Speaker 2: About some sort of cooperation deal, and you know, obviously
- 21:06Speaker 2: never got any further than those stocks.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, all right, So let's stick with that,
- 21:10Speaker 1: and we will go now to foreign Okay, getting to
- 21:15Speaker 1: foreign connections now, So we talked about all the American
- 21:18Speaker 1: politicians that he was connected to, We talked about the
- 21:20Speaker 1: intelligence agencies that he was connected to. Now let's discuss
- 21:24Speaker 1: some of these foreign individuals.
- 21:25Speaker 6: We say, a lot of interlap between all of these.
- 21:28Speaker 1: And so, you know, one of those individuals, we were
- 21:31Speaker 1: trying to decide where does royalty fit in, right, And
- 21:34Speaker 1: apparently we decided on Foreign Connections here. One of the
- 21:37Speaker 1: more infamous famous ones is Prince Andrew Are formerly known
- 21:41Speaker 1: as Prince Andrew. He's been stripped of all of his titles.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Some photos released of mister Andrews here in the latest stop.
- 21:47Speaker 1: Let's put this up here on the screen, shall we. Yeah,
- 21:50Speaker 1: a grown man standing over a girl, you know, in
- 21:53Speaker 1: the middle of a party to some guy on a
- 21:55Speaker 1: bed behind him. It's creepy. There's just no really other
- 21:58Speaker 1: word for it. On all fours, lying over a woman
- 22:01Speaker 1: who's lying on the ground. So that's Prince Andrew in another,
- 22:05Speaker 1: you know, horrible picture for him. Let's do the next one,
- 22:08Speaker 1: shall we. This one is also equally creepy, you know,
- 22:12Speaker 1: trigger warning on this one. You've got the x UK
- 22:15Speaker 1: Ambassador to the US, Peter Mandelssohn, pictured standing in his
- 22:20Speaker 1: underwear next to a girl in a robe in the
- 22:24Speaker 1: Epstein file stuff. Here's the question I have around Andrew
- 22:27Speaker 1: about this and so many of these are the creepy
- 22:30Speaker 1: photos which going to show you in a couple in
- 22:32Speaker 1: the horror bit who allows himself to be photographed this way?
- 22:36Speaker 1: Is this so all just normalized that everybody's in their
- 22:39Speaker 1: underwear or like standing over girls in like a creepy
- 22:43Speaker 1: and a threatening manner, and you're just so like just
- 22:47Speaker 1: you just assume you're in a safe space that this
- 22:50Speaker 1: stuff will never be able to come out. I mean,
- 22:51Speaker 1: that's that's really what comes through in the emails and
- 22:53Speaker 1: all the creepy way that they talk to each other,
- 22:55Speaker 1: that birthday book, and all the creepy stuff that they
- 22:57Speaker 1: would refer to there the horror section, which we'll get to,
- 22:59Speaker 1: you know, in a bit, where again, you know, they're
- 23:01Speaker 1: just like photographing and videoing themselves, like chasing girls around,
- 23:06Speaker 1: and you know, I'm in compromising positions, and nobody ever
- 23:10Speaker 1: thought for a second like hey, I'm literally a member
- 23:12Speaker 1: of the House of Lords, Like I shouldn't even be
- 23:14Speaker 1: doing that. Not only should I not be doing this,
- 23:16Speaker 1: I shouldn't be doing this on camera? Like what what
- 23:19Speaker 1: was happening here? Like inside of this I'm I do
- 23:22Speaker 1: not understand.
- 23:23Speaker 2: That that particular photo, it appears it could have been
- 23:27Speaker 2: taken surreptitiously. Possibly, but some of the other like the
- 23:30Speaker 2: Andrew Prince Andrew ones he's closing in this disgusting way
- 23:34Speaker 2: for the camera and clearly knows that his photos is
- 23:36Speaker 2: being taken the one we showed earlier of like or
- 23:39Speaker 2: of like just some gross dude, or maybe we have
- 23:41Speaker 2: that leader in the show and anyway, some gross dude
- 23:43Speaker 2: like with two girls there. I mean, there's a bunch
- 23:47Speaker 2: of these where it's like they know they're on. I
- 23:49Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what that is all about,
- 23:51Speaker 2: but it's really it's really something. This next one is
- 23:55Speaker 2: very weird too, involves the Crown Prince of Norway put
- 23:59Speaker 2: this up on the skirt. So asking Jeffrey Epstein for
- 24:02Speaker 2: parenting advice about showing her fifteen year old son naked women,
- 24:06Speaker 2: literally asking Epstein, is it inappropriate for a mother to
- 24:11Speaker 2: suggest two naked women carrying a surfboard for my fifteen.
- 24:15Speaker 6: Year old son's wallpaper?
- 24:17Speaker 1: Yes? What?
- 24:19Speaker 2: Like? First of all, yes, where does one even procure
- 24:23Speaker 2: such bizarre wallpaper? Number two, the person you choose to
- 24:28Speaker 2: ask about this in twenty twelve is a convicted sex offender. Like,
- 24:33Speaker 2: what what is happening? Unbelievable unbelievable stuff here?
- 24:38Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said let them decide. Mothers should stay
- 24:41Speaker 1: out of it. Really Yeah, I don't think so. I
- 24:43Speaker 1: think mom should have it.
- 24:44Speaker 4: One.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen years old, still very young. Mom still should
- 24:48Speaker 2: be in charge there.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, got it. Let's continue here. This is this
- 24:53Speaker 1: one that is actually pretty interesting. So emails show that
- 24:55Speaker 1: Epstein had conducted business in twenty sixteen within Manuel Macrone,
- 25:01Speaker 1: who was then the Minister of the Economy, and then
- 25:05Speaker 1: separate emails described macarone a quote allegedly seeking Epstein's help
- 25:09Speaker 1: with governance and public relations after he had already become
- 25:13Speaker 1: the French president. So you could see a little bit there.
- 25:16Speaker 1: For example, Tom Pritzker, they say, would like to direct
- 25:19Speaker 1: connect with someone in Macron? Is this doable? And they
- 25:22Speaker 1: say yes, I think so, I will ask my father
- 25:24Speaker 1: and return to you. So he's working on behalf of
- 25:27Speaker 1: apparently from some of his friends. And then he passages
- 25:29Speaker 1: on a message from Macrone. We believe that we need
- 25:33Speaker 1: to rethink, rebuild an event, governance and format of international institutions.
- 25:36Speaker 1: He passes on basically some sort of quote back in
- 25:39Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and then also saying Jacques is having dinner
- 25:43Speaker 1: with Macron today, so timing is perfect to Tom Pritzker,
- 25:46Speaker 1: who is an American billionaire by the way, related to
- 25:48Speaker 1: the governor Illinois, the Pritzker family. And then in another
- 25:52Speaker 1: one from the sultan beenstam to Epstein says, had a
- 25:56Speaker 1: lunch at Eliz Palace, had a nice minister, a conversation
- 25:59Speaker 1: with French Minister of Economy, mister Macrone, regarding our business
- 26:03Speaker 1: in France. This same Dubai Sultan is somebody who has
- 26:08Speaker 1: been reported on by Ryan and by Mortaza Saint over
- 26:11Speaker 1: at drop site and his connection to the Dubai port.
- 26:13Speaker 1: So you can see where all of the connections.
- 26:15Speaker 2: There's also another layer with mccron because he met his
- 26:21Speaker 2: now wife when he was fifteen. Now they deny any
- 26:24Speaker 2: sexual contact until he was of age, et cetera, but
- 26:26Speaker 2: entirely possible that he was himself groomed as a child.
- 26:29Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, welcome to candas thought. And it is
- 26:32Speaker 1: a famous Yeah yeah, this is the origin of candas thought.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. Let's put this up
- 26:39Speaker 1: here on the screen. This was from Epstein and Bannon's
- 26:42Speaker 1: text messages back in twenty nineteen. He says, now at
- 26:45Speaker 1: the pyramid with the entire government, what are your plans? Macrone?
- 26:49Speaker 1: Government question question yep the ministers of the elite, he says,
- 26:54Speaker 1: I mean, remember this is three March twenty ninth two
- 26:57Speaker 1: thoy and nineteen. Look, I haven't seen any message or
- 27:02Speaker 1: denying any of this yet from the Macron government. We'll
- 27:05Speaker 1: keep everybody updated if we do.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Uh, here's it's going to be shortly before When was
- 27:10Speaker 2: he put in prison?
- 27:11Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 27:11Speaker 1: Right right, it would have been it would have been right, yeah,
- 27:14Speaker 1: so it would have been very very crazy. Go by exactly,
- 27:16Speaker 1: it's crazy. Let's go to the next one. This is
- 27:19Speaker 1: a great one. You know, when we're talking here about
- 27:21Speaker 1: foreign influence, joy Eto, do you happen to have anyone
- 27:24Speaker 1: with influence over asad epscene? Not for email. I think
- 27:29Speaker 1: everyone should keep this in mind. So consider all the
- 27:31Speaker 1: crazy shit that we have shown everyone today, which was
- 27:35Speaker 1: an email jokes about Mosad, like all the billionaire stuff,
- 27:39Speaker 1: the harem, the joking, the Trump stuff intel, this one
- 27:44Speaker 1: is apparently so since so he he did have a line.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Apparently he goes not for email. We don't talk about this,
- 27:49Speaker 1: yeah here, so okay, well we.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Wait till we get to the horror block too, where
- 27:53Speaker 2: they're talking about torture and whatever and just like out
- 27:55Speaker 2: you know, right, so this was apparently too far even
- 28:00Speaker 2: for him.
- 28:00Speaker 1: That's my say. What I'm saying, I go, what is
- 28:02Speaker 1: so crazy for Jeffrey Epstein that it is not for email.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Great question. Okay, here's another one. Love this. If real,
- 28:09Speaker 1: real ones, we'll understand why this one is crazy. New
- 28:12Speaker 1: emails from the inbox show his long standing interest in Somaliland,
- 28:18Speaker 1: including discussions the year before his death with this who
- 28:22Speaker 1: I just mentioned Dubai Port's world chief, Sultan Solian about
- 28:25Speaker 1: proposals for recognition of the territory as an independent state.
- 28:29Speaker 1: So real ones will know that samalaland more recently is
- 28:33Speaker 1: a topic connecting to our own discourse around Israel, Crystal.
- 28:37Speaker 2: But this wasn't Israel the first country to officially recognize
- 28:40Speaker 2: that's why?
- 28:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So like there's this long standing beef
- 28:43Speaker 1: and this involves Somalia, but Israel apparently was involved, Like
- 28:47Speaker 1: with all things Israel somehow got imported into our own politics.
- 28:50Speaker 1: But you can see here that Epstein himself was also
- 28:53Speaker 1: involved in apparently some discussion around the independence again with
- 28:57Speaker 1: a Dubai you know, a very very rich executive in Dubai. Okay,
- 29:02Speaker 1: next one, this is another crazy one. This was an
- 29:05Speaker 1: email from the Sultan, buts same one suggesting Epstein was
- 29:09Speaker 1: involved in or at least discussing. He says, Dear Jeffrey,
- 29:14Speaker 1: I am attaching some media clipping regarding the Israeli operation
- 29:17Speaker 1: in Dubai. I will call you around seven pm time.
- 29:20Speaker 1: What happened doesn't help anyone. So this was after an
- 29:23Speaker 1: assassination of a Hamas leader in Dubai back in twenty ten.
- 29:28Speaker 1: And the only reason why it's this is like trip
- 29:31Speaker 1: some flags is what he says. What happened doesn't help anyone.
- 29:35Speaker 1: I'm attaching some media clipping. It seems to think that
- 29:38Speaker 1: they're going to discuss it and then it'll have some
- 29:40Speaker 1: role in it. Not that they're just discussing Crystal, like
- 29:44Speaker 1: you know, they're not just discussing current events. It seems
- 29:46Speaker 1: to say what happened doesn't help anyone, Like he's trying
- 29:49Speaker 1: to get him to relay a message. That's how I
- 29:50Speaker 1: read that, But you know, of course you can read
- 29:52Speaker 1: it in any way.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Yeah, but very like, very interesting that that would be
- 29:55Speaker 2: the person who would reach out exactly.
- 29:57Speaker 6: That's what I'm like, We need we need to why why?
- 30:00Speaker 2: Yeah, where's a back Cherry Epstein R Get what's the
- 30:02Speaker 2: reason you need to talk to you?
- 30:04Speaker 1: How do we get in touch with these guys, how
- 30:05Speaker 1: do we make sure that they don't know, you know,
- 30:07Speaker 1: what exactly is happening. So you could see that that
- 30:10Speaker 1: one is very important. All right, let's continue here.
- 30:13Speaker 2: This is what's put this next one. This is a
- 30:15Speaker 2: this is a very disturbing one. This is a journal
- 30:18Speaker 2: from a you know, purported victim. And it's lengthy, and
- 30:23Speaker 2: there's all kinds of stuff written out in like a
- 30:25Speaker 2: weird code. It's very disturbing. But this part in particular
- 30:30Speaker 2: was deeply, deeply troubling. So it says in the hall
- 30:33Speaker 2: Gallaine said she was beautiful. She was not is she
- 30:38Speaker 2: was a beautiful girl.
- 30:39Speaker 6: I heard her? Where is she? Why did she stop whimpering?
- 30:41Speaker 1: She was born?
- 30:43Speaker 2: I heard the tiny cries. I can't do this anymore.
- 30:46Speaker 2: He is now controlling everything when it used to be Glaine,
- 30:49Speaker 2: who some days acts like she hates me. Secrets of
- 30:52Speaker 2: all of them. I'm tired of keeping the secret. I
- 30:54Speaker 2: know people are wondering, but I can't tell. I am exhausted,
- 30:57Speaker 2: broken promises. I don't understand why she treating me on
- 31:00Speaker 2: some days like I'm the enemy. But then we lay
- 31:02Speaker 2: in bed together and she is how she used to
- 31:05Speaker 2: be warm. He makes her feel my tummy and is
- 31:07Speaker 2: so sad and confusing. Superior gene Pool question mark, why me?
- 31:11Speaker 2: It makes no sense? Why ma? Hair color and eye
- 31:14Speaker 2: color that feels very Nazi like. But in thinking about
- 31:17Speaker 2: these stupid, insane theories he has I guess in his
- 31:19Speaker 2: mind it makes sense. The piano and music comments are
- 31:22Speaker 2: made to convince me this is right and create perfect offspring,
- 31:25Speaker 2: he calls them. I don't think it works that way,
- 31:27Speaker 2: and it makes me hating playing together piano or viola.
- 31:32Speaker 6: I am starting to resent them both.
- 31:33Speaker 2: I miss the person I was before I was made
- 31:35Speaker 2: into what feels as a human incubator.
- 31:37Speaker 6: So I don't even know what you say about that.
- 31:41Speaker 1: You know, it's just disturbing fits.
- 31:43Speaker 2: I guess really in the horror block because this is
- 31:46Speaker 2: you know, this is what a victim wrote, and like
- 31:49Speaker 2: I said, there was also this was there was a
- 31:51Speaker 2: longer part of it. There are parts that were in
- 31:53Speaker 2: bizarre code. There are other illusions throughout the files to
- 31:57Speaker 2: like weird impregnation.
- 32:00Speaker 1: They talked about that, Yeah, quite a bit. It's look,
- 32:03Speaker 1: it's super disturbing, and that's what we're saying. Even contextualizing it,
- 32:06Speaker 1: it's very hard to even like it's it's really hard
- 32:09Speaker 1: to even say the reality of it. Was it like
- 32:12Speaker 1: some disturbed writing. But I mean this is where I
- 32:15Speaker 1: was going to save some of this for the horror stuff,
- 32:16Speaker 1: but like this is where the eyes wide shut part
- 32:18Speaker 1: of it just seems real. Like there's no there's no
- 32:22Speaker 1: rational or safe universe where stuff like this is even
- 32:26Speaker 1: going to exist. Like in what world can and what
- 32:29Speaker 1: environment can something like this even be, you know, even
- 32:33Speaker 1: be written down either as a confessional or some sort
- 32:36Speaker 1: of fantasy. But like whatever exactly was being released and
- 32:40Speaker 1: what was happening in all here, yeah, just is very
- 32:43Speaker 1: very you know, difficult to even fathom the conditions in
- 32:47Speaker 1: which something like this could ever be written.
- 32:49Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and talk about some of the
- 32:51Speaker 2: media angle here, because this was this is actually one
- 32:53Speaker 2: of the wilder parts as well. Yes, and very relevant
- 32:57Speaker 2: to current events and some of the current events we
- 32:59Speaker 2: cover here on the show.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Yes, turning down to media. I got to say at
- 33:04Speaker 1: the beginning, this one hurts doctor Peter Atiya. I read
- 33:08Speaker 1: his book, I listened to his show. I thought he's
- 33:12Speaker 1: one of the most well respected doctors, you know, longevity specialists,
- 33:17Speaker 1: really cut through a lot of the BS literally last
- 33:20Speaker 1: week listened to a full episode that he's done. I've
- 33:23Speaker 1: listened to multiple of his like followed a ton of
- 33:26Speaker 1: his advice, So when I saw this it was shocking.
- 33:30Speaker 1: It's shocking too also in terms of the way that
- 33:31Speaker 1: he's talked about family life and personal stuff. But look,
- 33:36Speaker 1: I mean, it's part of the public conversation and it
- 33:38Speaker 1: is worth reporting on. So let's go to the next one,
- 33:40Speaker 1: and let's put this up here. So you have this
- 33:43Speaker 1: email exchange from twenty fifteen from Jeff. By the way,
- 33:47Speaker 1: keep in mind the subject line because I'm not even
- 33:49Speaker 1: sure what that means. Got a fresh shipment, not sure
- 33:51Speaker 1: what it says from Epstein, and then Atiya writes here
- 33:56Speaker 1: you the biggest problem with becoming friends with you? The
- 34:00Speaker 1: lead is so outrageous, and yet I can't tell a
- 34:03Speaker 1: soul dot dot dot.
- 34:05Speaker 2: And the gotta first shipment appears to be a question right,
- 34:09Speaker 2: It's like because Epstein says, fraid not.
- 34:12Speaker 1: Right, So please tell me you found that picture online
- 34:15Speaker 1: dot dot dot. Bastard was another email that was written.
- 34:19Speaker 1: So again I don't know exactly what the context of
- 34:22Speaker 1: this exactly one is. Let's go to F two. I
- 34:25Speaker 1: mean you know, I don't even have words for this, right,
- 34:27Speaker 1: So you got a tea here saying pussy is indeed
- 34:30Speaker 1: low carbs. Still awaiting results on gluten content February twenty sixteen. Look,
- 34:36Speaker 1: locker room talk, I guess, but it's just one of
- 34:38Speaker 1: those where and we're not even gonna read some of
- 34:40Speaker 1: the other ones where he's talking about his personal life
- 34:42Speaker 1: and his relationship with his wife and that's all Taudrey.
- 34:45Speaker 1: But I mean, it's just again, like I said, it's
- 34:47Speaker 1: really tough for a lot of people like me and
- 34:50Speaker 1: many others out there who've been relying on his advice
- 34:53Speaker 1: and his health information. I mean, I can't be alone.
- 34:57Speaker 1: There are millions, he has millions of followers. Like heated
- 35:00Speaker 1: his advice, like really cut through, read the studies, elevated
- 35:04Speaker 1: I thought, some of the best most responsible voices and
- 35:06Speaker 1: like in health and fitness, And I mean everybody did
- 35:11Speaker 1: know for years like that he had this concierge doctor
- 35:14Speaker 1: business with like the rich and the powerful, and you
- 35:17Speaker 1: know he hit out Hollywood celebrities on there was a
- 35:20Speaker 1: little bit of a red flag back in the day.
- 35:21Speaker 1: Remember he posted this thing with Kevin Spacey, and I
- 35:23Speaker 1: was like, that's a little weird, you know, because he's
- 35:25Speaker 1: just said he unconditionally and I was like, Okay, you know,
- 35:28Speaker 1: people can know Kevin Spacey, that's all fine. But yeah,
- 35:31Speaker 1: I mean, this is tough. And it's also by the way,
- 35:33Speaker 1: in the context of Atia more recently just got hired
- 35:36Speaker 1: by CBS News sixty minutes just did a whole thing
- 35:39Speaker 1: with him, which I thought was great. That's why this
- 35:42Speaker 1: is so crazy. And you know, even reading the list,
- 35:44Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is you know, the good actually
- 35:46Speaker 1: Huberman and the Tia, these are these this is good information.
- 35:50Speaker 1: So I don't know how CBS is going to handle
- 35:52Speaker 1: this one, or you know, how he's own audience and
- 35:54Speaker 1: all of that will react. I've looked. He hasn't said
- 35:57Speaker 1: anything as of recently in terms of a state, but
- 36:00Speaker 1: this has been blowing up all over you know, health,
- 36:05Speaker 1: Instagram and much more, including many of these. You know,
- 36:08Speaker 1: he's going to have to address it, presumably, you know,
- 36:10Speaker 1: at some point. But he is one of the more
- 36:12Speaker 1: prominent like media figures who was named here in the files. Yeah,
- 36:17Speaker 1: not just named. I mean you could see his own
- 36:18Speaker 1: relationship and there's hundreds of either.
- 36:20Speaker 2: There's a lot it's not just the to do it was.
- 36:23Speaker 2: There was a lengthy exchange. And again we're talking about
- 36:26Speaker 2: a time twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen when it is well known,
- 36:31Speaker 2: what is you know, after the conviction, So you can't say, oh,
- 36:34Speaker 2: I had no idea what was going on. And you
- 36:36Speaker 2: can see the content of the type of discussions that
- 36:38Speaker 2: they were having as well and draw your own conclusions
- 36:41Speaker 2: about what is going on there. Speaking of Barry, though,
- 36:44Speaker 2: let's go and put the F three up on the screen.
- 36:47Speaker 2: You've got some friendly exchanges between Barry's wife, Nelly Bowles,
- 36:52Speaker 2: who also is like a you know, founder or what
- 36:54Speaker 2: is she?
- 36:54Speaker 6: Editor at large of the Free Press?
- 36:57Speaker 2: In any case, she's got some friendly exchanges here with
- 37:00Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. He's asking her, when are you and your
- 37:04Speaker 2: babe back in New York City?
- 37:06Speaker 6: The babe here being Barry Wiss.
- 37:09Speaker 2: You've got some Hello, Nelly, Jeffrey will be in New
- 37:12Speaker 2: York tomorrow on Wednesday. Might you be around to be
- 37:14Speaker 2: able to come meet him mashably as you will both
- 37:16Speaker 2: enjoy each other's company. Perhaps Wednesday eleven am Jeffrey's home.
- 37:19Speaker 2: The dress is blah blah blah. Please let me know thanks,
- 37:22Speaker 2: and so you've got these you know, these friendly exchanges, plans.
- 37:25Speaker 6: To get together, et cetera.
- 37:26Speaker 2: Back and forth between Barry Weiss's wife, Nellie Bowls.
- 37:31Speaker 1: To be fair, Jeffie Bowles had written about it previously,
- 37:33Speaker 1: you know, saying that she'd met with Epstein and all
- 37:35Speaker 1: that she said it was, you know, for work, just saying.
- 37:39Speaker 2: She did cover you know, elites, she covered Silicon Valley
- 37:43Speaker 2: and other elites.
- 37:44Speaker 1: So yeah, perhaps no, I mean, I'm just saying, like,
- 37:47Speaker 1: it's not like it was a secret. As anybody who
- 37:50Speaker 1: watched this show. I'm not the biggest fan of of
- 37:54Speaker 1: the Free Press or any of that, just noting, you know,
- 37:56Speaker 1: she had previously said, yeah, it's not a secret, like
- 37:59Speaker 1: I connect did with them. But all of this, you know,
- 38:01Speaker 1: in the context kind of a CBS it is kind
- 38:04Speaker 1: of crazy the number of like weird connections that we're
- 38:07Speaker 1: able to find. Let's put this next one up here.
- 38:08Speaker 1: This is from Harrison Berger, who flagged a multiple large
- 38:13Speaker 1: showed up a bunch in Epstein files related to large
- 38:16Speaker 1: wire transfers. You know that the problem with the context
- 38:19Speaker 1: is we don't really see much beyond some of the
- 38:22Speaker 1: overall amounts, but of course, it wouldn't be out of
- 38:25Speaker 1: the realm of possibility to see large wire transfers and
- 38:27Speaker 1: all that going back and forth. But it does show
- 38:30Speaker 1: some of the major figures here who were involved. Put
- 38:33Speaker 1: F five up on the screen now. For example, this
- 38:36Speaker 1: one was showing Epstein relating to travel with Woody Allen
- 38:42Speaker 1: back in March of twenty twelve for what was described
- 38:46Speaker 1: in the correspondence as a pedophile convention. Seems to be
- 38:50Speaker 1: a joke, but he says, question for you Paris with
- 38:53Speaker 1: Woody Allen. Sorry for all the typos from Jeffrey to redacted.
- 38:58Speaker 1: He replies for late pedophile convention, question mark, and Epstein
- 39:02Speaker 1: replies back, I think petaphila is the plural. So that's
- 39:06Speaker 1: the hilarious that they're all telling them so behind the scenes.
- 39:10Speaker 1: And then F six, if we will, I thought there's
- 39:13Speaker 1: kind of interesting thread from jet here, had my back
- 39:16Speaker 1: and forth with Jeet over the years. We'll give credit
- 39:19Speaker 1: where it is due, he says. The new batch shows
- 39:21Speaker 1: to help illuminate a contemporary controversy, what's up with Barry
- 39:24Speaker 1: Wise up to CBS. I think the answer she's trying
- 39:26Speaker 1: to rehabilitate Epstein network is a bulwark of reactionary centrism.
- 39:30Speaker 1: I think really what he means by the right Epstein
- 39:31Speaker 1: network is just like this general you know, like global.
- 39:35Speaker 6: Call and oh we have right, we have the rest.
- 39:37Speaker 2: Let's continue with this thread because I thought this is
- 39:39Speaker 2: Inji puts a bunch of the pieces together. He says,
- 39:41Speaker 2: let's lay out the connection. Weiss's partner and ideological collaborator,
- 39:44Speaker 2: Nellie Bowles, was on very familiar terms with Epstein as
- 39:47Speaker 2: we were just discussing.
- 39:49Speaker 6: Next one.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Announcing her plans for CBS, Weiss said she wants to
- 39:52Speaker 2: marginalize the radical right and left while elevating charismatics. She
- 39:56Speaker 2: actually said that centrist voices like Alan Dershowitz, Epstein former
- 40:00Speaker 2: lawyer and crony. And of course, next one, another voice
- 40:05Speaker 2: being elevated by Weiss is Peter Adia, who we were
- 40:08Speaker 2: just discussing. Next one, of course, Weiss has brought on
- 40:10Speaker 2: Stephen Pinker to CBS, who also as his connections as
- 40:13Speaker 2: part of her new Town Hall format. She had used
- 40:16Speaker 2: Larry Summers for Free Press, but core Summers now because
- 40:19Speaker 2: of his Epstein connections, is too toxic to rehabilitate. Next one,
- 40:24Speaker 2: Weiss presents her mission at CBS is during trust by
- 40:26Speaker 2: elevating centrist voices, which is accurate enough if we understand
- 40:29Speaker 2: Centri's voices to mean the type of men likely to
- 40:32Speaker 2: hang out with Jeffrey Epstein completely forgot to mention voice
- 40:35Speaker 2: did a lengthy, friendly interview with one of Epstein's closest friends,
- 40:39Speaker 2: Woody Allen, and then he concludes Weiss's project is creating
- 40:43Speaker 2: an operation paper Clip for Epstein's cronies, taking a group
- 40:46Speaker 2: of discardited men, rehabilitating them as necessary pillars up system.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Dershowitz and Peter Adia are the Werner von Bronze of
- 40:54Speaker 2: reactionary centrism. So putting some pieces together there, and I
- 40:59Speaker 2: think that is a useful way of thinking about it
- 41:02Speaker 2: and doesn't have to be conspiratorial. But obviously you see
- 41:06Speaker 2: you see in these files, you see the way power works.
- 41:08Speaker 2: You see the network here, and you know they want
- 41:12Speaker 2: to maintain their power and control, and in order to
- 41:15Speaker 2: do that you need media organs that are going to
- 41:19Speaker 2: elevate you, that are going to you know, manufacture consent
- 41:23Speaker 2: for the world as you see it and as you
- 41:25Speaker 2: want other people to see it. That's what allows you
- 41:27Speaker 2: to continue working the levers of power, and so you know,
- 41:31Speaker 2: I think when you put all of those pieces together,
- 41:33Speaker 2: it's a pretty good theory of what she's up to
- 41:35Speaker 2: there of trying to trying to keep at bay the
- 41:38Speaker 2: sort of the reactionary right, try to keep at bay
- 41:41Speaker 2: the Bernie Sanders left. By the way, there is one
- 41:43Speaker 2: funny mention of Bernie Sanders in the files where Larry
- 41:46Speaker 2: Summers is bitching about how some of his kids like
- 41:49Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders too much. He and Norm Finkelstein are the
- 41:52Speaker 2: only two be able to come out of this looking
- 41:54Speaker 2: better than before. Norm was offered to meet with Epstein,
- 41:59Speaker 2: and he he was like, I would rather like that
- 42:02Speaker 2: guy should be strangled. I would never meet with him,
- 42:04Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. So in typical Norm fashion, going
- 42:06Speaker 2: very hard in the paint, disgusted at the in suggestion.
- 42:09Speaker 2: And this was at a time when he was at
- 42:10Speaker 2: a low point in his career. In any case, putting
- 42:12Speaker 2: that aside, clearly, I mean that is Barry's project is
- 42:16Speaker 2: basically like, let me try to put back together the
- 42:20Speaker 2: pieces of this collapsing world order and try to rebuild
- 42:25Speaker 2: some of the powerful pillars of that world order. And
- 42:28Speaker 2: people that I know are going to be amenable to
- 42:32Speaker 2: that project, and so, you know, and not just Barry
- 42:34Speaker 2: like the Ellison's I think that is sort of broadly
- 42:37Speaker 2: the project that they are engaged in.
- 42:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's why the irony of the whole
- 42:41Speaker 1: look not to make this into a whole CBS thing,
- 42:43Speaker 1: but the whole CBS thing. The idea this is some
- 42:45Speaker 1: revolutionary takeover is ridiculous. Like what it is is about
- 42:48Speaker 1: exactly kind of how we described it, so called reactionary centrism,
- 42:52Speaker 1: like making sure that everything is pro Israel, making sure
- 42:55Speaker 1: that the voices that we say are elevating that are
- 42:58Speaker 1: not enough on media in our media are like Mike
- 43:01Speaker 1: Pompeo and hr McMaster and you know a bunch of
- 43:04Speaker 1: other folks who everybody in the media ideologically has largely
- 43:08Speaker 1: agree with. Now for a decade, Hillary Clinton, right, bringing
- 43:11Speaker 1: her on for some sort of stream We're going to
- 43:13Speaker 1: do the fucking news, you know, she says, but really
- 43:16Speaker 1: not changing things up really at all, and making it
- 43:19Speaker 1: all part of like a broader Ellison empire. So in
- 43:22Speaker 1: a way, like I think his idea here about protecting
- 43:25Speaker 1: the Epstein like reactionary centrism, as Epstein thought, is very
- 43:30Speaker 1: apt because that is what spans all of these emails,
- 43:33Speaker 1: all of our coverage from throughout the day. You've got
- 43:36Speaker 1: the deep state, you've got politicians, you've got people of
- 43:38Speaker 1: influence and power, you've got the financial system. All of
- 43:41Speaker 1: it is about protecting itself. It's all about making money.
- 43:44Speaker 1: It's all about, you know, morality imposed upon others. But
- 43:47Speaker 1: now a morality that looks inside. Actually, now, when I
- 43:50Speaker 1: think about it, it's very Victorian. Where in the Victorian age,
- 43:53Speaker 1: you know, all of the commoners were expected to uphold
- 43:55Speaker 1: themselves to a very high moral standard, and outwardly the
- 43:59Speaker 1: king and the royalty them would project that, but inwardly
- 44:02Speaker 1: they were disgusting degenerates who were often some of the
- 44:05Speaker 1: most like conducting the most degenerate behavior, but they themselves
- 44:08Speaker 1: were like total hypocrites kind of protecting themselves in this
- 44:12Speaker 1: power and influence. So yes, it's just it's a tale
- 44:15Speaker 1: as old as time.
- 44:18Speaker 6: Well, that's good.
- 44:19Speaker 2: It's a good segue to our last piece here, which
- 44:22Speaker 2: is just some of the things that you can't even
- 44:24Speaker 2: really categorize, you know, they're just depict the absolute depraved, disgusting,
- 44:29Speaker 2: like beyond belief type of activity, you know, and it
- 44:33Speaker 2: hinsat it right. This is all the little glimpses that
- 44:36Speaker 2: we get. And we've talked about this before, because I mean,
- 44:39Speaker 2: it really does. The Birthday book was very eye opening
- 44:42Speaker 2: for me, or like page after page of the most disgusting, disturbing,
- 44:47Speaker 2: dystopian references where that was the moment when we both
- 44:51Speaker 2: were oh, as why shut as the documentary like.
- 44:54Speaker 6: This is real life.
- 44:55Speaker 2: And I genuinely I believe so firmly now in the
- 45:01Speaker 2: strongest possible way, that being a billionaire, being extraordinarily powerful,
- 45:06Speaker 2: being extraordinarily influential, you know, well positioned in these ways, it.
- 45:11Speaker 6: Destroys your soul. It destroys your soul.
- 45:13Speaker 2: It's not only bad for society, it is bad for
- 45:16Speaker 2: you personally. And so, as you said, you know this
- 45:20Speaker 2: type of depraved behavior, it's not new. This is something
- 45:24Speaker 2: you see repeated over millennia with the you know, top
- 45:29Speaker 2: elites of their time, where the best I can psychologize
- 45:33Speaker 2: is that, you know, because they have so much, and
- 45:37Speaker 2: because they also see themselves as being this distinct, you know,
- 45:41Speaker 2: class of humans that are separate and above from all
- 45:45Speaker 2: the rest that first of all, it excuses any sort
- 45:49Speaker 2: of horror and abuse and Jeffrey Epstein clearly if you
- 45:53Speaker 2: read these emails, has a specific like Jewish supremacist ideology
- 45:57Speaker 2: that he believes in, which is part of his own
- 45:59Speaker 2: mental mental architecture of why he believes he's justified in
- 46:03Speaker 2: doing all of these things that he does because he's different,
- 46:06Speaker 2: he's special, he's separate. These girls that he's abusing, they
- 46:09Speaker 2: don't count in the same way. There's one email that
- 46:12Speaker 2: we were talking about where he's pissed off at Bill
- 46:14Speaker 2: Gates asking him for money for his projects in Africa,
- 46:18Speaker 2: and he's basically like, this is some Catholic bullshit where
- 46:20Speaker 2: they believe every human.
- 46:22Speaker 6: Life is equal.
- 46:23Speaker 2: That's what he says, like that he does not believe
- 46:25Speaker 2: that every human life is equal, and he's disgusted that
- 46:28Speaker 2: Bill Gates might subscribe to that ideology. So in any case,
- 46:34Speaker 2: you know, I think you get that mentality, you get
- 46:37Speaker 2: this level of decadence. You know, the normal pleasures that
- 46:41Speaker 2: you when I engage in, like, they don't hit the
- 46:43Speaker 2: same and so you just do this increasingly disgusting and
- 46:47Speaker 2: depraved behavior and end up with, I mean, things that
- 46:52Speaker 2: I think most ordinary people could not even conceive of.
- 46:54Speaker 2: So let's go and put this some of this together again.
- 46:57Speaker 2: These are like the glimpses we get in these emails. Right,
- 47:00Speaker 2: there's this video of Epstein in a kitchen and the
- 47:04Speaker 2: girls here are redacted girls women. We don't know their age.
- 47:09Speaker 2: You can tell from the reflection that it is females,
- 47:11Speaker 2: and you can hear their voices. You can see him
- 47:13Speaker 2: like chasing them around the kitchen island, you know, into
- 47:18Speaker 2: sweat pants, and they're you know, giggling, and he's going
- 47:22Speaker 2: after them.
- 47:23Speaker 6: That's enough of that we can put. Let's put G
- 47:25Speaker 6: two up on the screen.
- 47:27Speaker 2: This is another one of these perplexing photos where you're like,
- 47:30Speaker 2: why did you let yourself be photograb like shows we
- 47:34Speaker 2: don't know who this dude is laying with his belly
- 47:38Speaker 2: hanging out in you know, his underwear, and then two
- 47:42Speaker 2: females of indeterminate age, potential victims, we don't know they're
- 47:47Speaker 2: with him. So you got that one. Let's put this
- 47:51Speaker 2: G three up on the screen. This is from a
- 47:53Speaker 2: Harvard professor. So says, our spy was captured after completing
- 48:00Speaker 2: her mission. This is from the Harvard professor and Epstein replies,
- 48:04Speaker 2: did you torture her? Okay, what does that mean, Does
- 48:09Speaker 2: that mean what it appears to mean? Is this some
- 48:11Speaker 2: sort of a some sort of a joke and inside
- 48:13Speaker 2: joke between the two of you. There were a number
- 48:15Speaker 2: of references to torture in all of this. In addition,
- 48:18Speaker 2: let's put G four up on the screen. There was
- 48:21Speaker 2: also a lot of language that appears to be coded
- 48:24Speaker 2: regarding food. I wanted to let you know the crew
- 48:26Speaker 2: really appreciated the pizza. Another email read this is better
- 48:29Speaker 2: than a Chinese cookie see attached. Let's go for pizza
- 48:31Speaker 2: and grape soda again. This one talks about Yeah, that's
- 48:35Speaker 2: the pizza you mean, radiating a soft glow with the
- 48:37Speaker 2: look of bliss and excitement. There's one war I think
- 48:41Speaker 2: in this list as well. Sorry, I have no stomach
- 48:44Speaker 2: for even the slightest agro. I don't have the stomach
- 48:46Speaker 2: for it, for any drama mentioniner real, I'm still fragile
- 48:49Speaker 2: off the last one and scared of shadows. This is
- 48:51Speaker 2: in response to some videos that were shared where Jeffrey
- 48:55Speaker 2: Epstein himself says I watched all of these videos, don't
- 48:58Speaker 2: send any more, and then Galaane is like, I can't
- 49:00Speaker 2: stomach any of this. What the fuck did you send
- 49:03Speaker 2: that Jeffrey Epstein was.
- 49:05Speaker 1: Like no war well, and remember that they have some
- 49:08Speaker 1: sort of opsect because previously it said not for email. Again,
- 49:13Speaker 1: I especially more recently after becoming a parent, like I
- 49:17Speaker 1: find a lot of this stuff like extremely difficult to
- 49:19Speaker 1: even look at and just think about how people could
- 49:21Speaker 1: end up like in this type of situation and just
- 49:25Speaker 1: the casual, callous nature in which they would talk a
- 49:29Speaker 1: lot about women and use them as tools. I mean,
- 49:32Speaker 1: for example, let's put this next one up here from
- 49:35Speaker 1: Emily that she was able to find the snow white
- 49:38Speaker 1: was fed twice as soon as she put on her costume.
- 49:40Speaker 1: Don't forget there were previous you know, there were previous
- 49:45Speaker 1: references to a snow white that we previously had made
- 49:48Speaker 1: here before on the show. Regarding Jess Staley, we don't
- 49:51Speaker 1: know if he was the person who sent this email,
- 49:53Speaker 1: and perhaps this was just some sick game that he
- 49:55Speaker 1: would set up for him and his friends, but you
- 49:57Speaker 1: could see that put G six up here on the screen.
- 50:01Speaker 1: This was some guy who was proposing that Epstein would
- 50:05Speaker 1: participate in some sort of modeling contests for all of
- 50:10Speaker 1: the top girls inside of Russia, and so like these
- 50:13Speaker 1: are all just like schemes, you know, with power and
- 50:16Speaker 1: all of them behind them to victimize and to get
- 50:20Speaker 1: women in positions of which they're subordinate to him and
- 50:23Speaker 1: which he's powerful over them. And look, I mean we
- 50:26Speaker 1: showed you guys the Andrew photos, but there's all kinds
- 50:30Speaker 1: of creepy shit in there. Like if you go through
- 50:32Speaker 1: and there are hundreds of these photos, like click through,
- 50:34Speaker 1: the vast majority of them people like very compromising, like
- 50:38Speaker 1: weird sexual positions. By the way, the dog Jay even
- 50:42Speaker 1: accidentally released nude photographs in some cases that most of
- 50:46Speaker 1: them have been released now, but just to show you
- 50:48Speaker 1: like their own redaction process. But the unfortunate part is
- 50:51Speaker 1: they redact the names in many cases of like powerful guys.
- 50:54Speaker 1: And then in some of these women, you know they're
- 50:56Speaker 1: photographs or others are being released without their consent or
- 51:00Speaker 1: in a compromising position and they don't do anything. Yeah,
- 51:03Speaker 1: is terrible, but yeah, I mean, just my overall takeaway
- 51:06Speaker 1: is there some sick, sick, sick, deep depraved stuff that
- 51:10Speaker 1: was happening there. And I mean this is part of
- 51:13Speaker 1: the difficulty where look the pizzas, like you know, everyone
- 51:17Speaker 1: likes to make fun of Pizzagate and all that, and sure,
- 51:19Speaker 1: you know it got out of control. However, the original
- 51:22Speaker 1: idea of people referring to c Sam as pizza was
- 51:26Speaker 1: a thing. That's kind of what the connection became. And
- 51:29Speaker 1: you can look, I mean, you can't deny that a
- 51:32Speaker 1: lot of these emails are very strange and do not
- 51:35Speaker 1: make any sense in the context of actually talking about
- 51:38Speaker 1: pizza because it was internet slaying that was previously that
- 51:42Speaker 1: you were able to make the relation. I just don't
- 51:44Speaker 1: see how you can't connect it, at least in some way.
- 51:47Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Podesta thing. Everybody says you're
- 51:49Speaker 1: a kook. Go and look at photos from Tony Pedessa's
- 51:51Speaker 1: house if you've never seen it before, and you're not
- 51:53Speaker 1: going to say, at the very least a weird shit
- 51:55Speaker 1: or it looked weird as shit in terms of the
- 51:57Speaker 1: art in and of itself.
- 51:58Speaker 2: Yep, let me read one of these pizza one again.
- 52:00Speaker 2: This is better than a Chinese cookie see attached. Let's
- 52:04Speaker 2: go for pizza and grape soda again. No one else
- 52:07Speaker 2: can understand. Does that seem like a normal thing that
- 52:12Speaker 2: you draw your A couple of billionaires will be sending
- 52:14Speaker 2: to each other.
- 52:14Speaker 1: That's what I mean you about.
- 52:16Speaker 6: Pizza and grape soda.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Yeah, you draw your own conclusions about what that means. Like,
- 52:20Speaker 1: I have no other way to describe it to you.
- 52:22Speaker 1: It's just one of those where clearly they were up
- 52:24Speaker 1: to some I mean, don't forget that even in twenty nineteen,
- 52:27Speaker 1: if you look at his Amazon receipts, which THEO with
- 52:30Speaker 1: Bloomberg went through, I mean he's ordering all this like
- 52:33Speaker 1: crazy sex shit on Amazon, which is in his receipts. Yeah,
- 52:37Speaker 1: and on top of what Lolita the revised annotated copy right.
- 52:41Speaker 1: You know, it's like it was so out in the open,
- 52:45Speaker 1: not only in terms of his friend group, but from
- 52:47Speaker 1: behind the scenes and all the stuff that they were
- 52:49Speaker 1: up to. And remember everything we've shown you today is
- 52:52Speaker 1: what they put in email. Well, he had a well
- 52:54Speaker 1: he had insight into what he wouldn't put in the email.
- 52:57Speaker 6: And there's literally was.
- 52:58Speaker 2: Something a couple of other things said about that. So
- 53:01Speaker 2: when was a Todd Blanche that announced that Epstein files released. Anyway,
- 53:04Speaker 2: he said that they left out any images of torture
- 53:09Speaker 2: death abuse. That means they had images of torture, death
- 53:14Speaker 2: and abuse.
- 53:15Speaker 6: That okay, so.
- 53:19Speaker 2: They still are holding on to that, which I mean, true,
- 53:22Speaker 2: I don't want to see that material, but it seems
- 53:25Speaker 2: like potentially there needs to be some investigations there. Nobody
- 53:28Speaker 2: was implicated outside of Jeffrey Epstein and Glainne Maxwell, nobody else.
- 53:33Speaker 2: There's nothing here of anyone that can be charged. I
- 53:37Speaker 2: want to underscore again that, by the government's own admission,
- 53:41Speaker 2: there were six million files and they nerd it down
- 53:43Speaker 2: to three million files. So we are getting the handpicked
- 53:48Speaker 2: view that they want us to have. So it's really
- 53:52Speaker 2: important to keep that in mind as well. One thing
- 53:55Speaker 2: with regard to the Pizzagate thing, so it looks from
- 53:59Speaker 2: the files that Epstein met with the four Chan guy
- 54:03Speaker 2: who started the Paul board on four Chan, which was
- 54:07Speaker 2: the place where pizzagate and QAnon where they come from. Okay,
- 54:14Speaker 2: and they met on the same day that that board begins.
- 54:18Speaker 2: So there's a lot of theorizing about you know, I mean,
- 54:21Speaker 2: this is a tale as old as time that the
- 54:24Speaker 2: culture war is used to distract people from the real
- 54:28Speaker 2: problems in society and the globe, which is the power
- 54:30Speaker 2: of these very billionaires. So you know, it's not crazy
- 54:34Speaker 2: to imagine that they found all of these kooky conspiracy
- 54:38Speaker 2: theories to be very useful that were you know, I mean,
- 54:41Speaker 2: Pizzagate was stupid and bizarre, and so it made it
- 54:44Speaker 2: very easy, and so it was QAnon, and so it
- 54:46Speaker 2: made it very easy for people to see all of this,
- 54:49Speaker 2: the real things that were going on as preposterous, right,
- 54:52Speaker 2: and so the you know, the New York Times of
- 54:54Speaker 2: the World and whatever wouldn't deign to look into it,
- 54:58Speaker 2: media organizations involved directly in.
- 55:00Speaker 6: Cover ups, etc.
- 55:01Speaker 2: Because it was all painted as like just the you know,
- 55:04Speaker 2: the hobby horse of these crazy fringe conspiracy theorists. And
- 55:07Speaker 2: again like Piezagate and QAnon were ridiculous things were they
- 55:12Speaker 2: sort of put out there intentionally so that you you know,
- 55:16Speaker 2: are are making the real part also seem like it's
- 55:19Speaker 2: preposterous and like it's just an icky conspiracy theory that is,
- 55:23Speaker 2: you know, one possibility. I'm not saying that's proven by this,
- 55:26Speaker 2: but there's one possibility here. Let's put the next piece
- 55:30Speaker 2: up on the screen from this is a daily mail
- 55:33Speaker 2: right up of some of the allegations that were contained
- 55:36Speaker 2: from a victim. In these files, they say Jeffrey Epstein
- 55:40Speaker 2: raped underage girls several times a day as part of
- 55:43Speaker 2: a sickening routine. Detailed new documents released by the Department
- 55:46Speaker 2: of Justice. An alleged victim in a civil complete filed
- 55:49Speaker 2: in Florida in twenty ten revealed the process that young
- 55:52Speaker 2: girls endured upon their arrival at his Palm Beach mansion.
- 55:55Speaker 2: Each girl was brought to his home in private transportation
- 55:57Speaker 2: arranged by Epstein, greeted by an assistan and who collected
- 56:00Speaker 2: her personal information, then let up a remote flight of
- 56:02Speaker 2: stairs to a room containing a shower and massage table.
- 56:06Speaker 2: If it was her first encounter with the pedophile, another
- 56:08Speaker 2: girl would be in the room to lead the way
- 56:10Speaker 2: before being dismissed by Epstein.
- 56:12Speaker 6: The alleged victim claimed.
- 56:14Speaker 2: Epstein would then have his massage wearing only small towel,
- 56:16Speaker 2: which eventually would be removed. He gave his victims specific
- 56:19Speaker 2: instructions as to where and how he wanted things done,
- 56:22Speaker 2: and would order them to strip naked. The complaint released
- 56:24Speaker 2: in Friday's Epstein files revealed, so, this is one of
- 56:28Speaker 2: the alleged victims. This is what she told the FBI,
- 56:32Speaker 2: and I mentioned this earlier. I mentioned it again. We
- 56:34Speaker 2: did get a look of that draft indictment before the
- 56:37Speaker 2: sweetheart deal is crafted, where you had what a dozen
- 56:40Speaker 2: plus victims who would come forward and testified in very
- 56:43Speaker 2: similar terms to this level of abuse that they had
- 56:47Speaker 2: been subjected to, girls as young as fourteen, who spoke
- 56:51Speaker 2: to authorities about this.
- 56:53Speaker 6: And we're trad and we're ultimately betrayed.
- 56:55Speaker 1: Because for years people have said that Dershwitz, for example,
- 56:59Speaker 1: has defended Oh, the victims only said no, no, the
- 57:02Speaker 1: plead only happened because they picked the oldest girl that
- 57:06Speaker 1: was involved. But remember, and if you read that indictment,
- 57:08Speaker 1: which by the way, I'd been waiting for it for
- 57:10Speaker 1: a long time to actually see the original case, it
- 57:13Speaker 1: look you can read it yourself.
- 57:15Speaker 2: Yea.
- 57:15Speaker 1: Costa is claiming though that he didn't have enough to
- 57:18Speaker 1: be able to prosecute, but if you read the allegations
- 57:21Speaker 1: and all that made within, you can see that they
- 57:24Speaker 1: had a much stronger and bigger one that would have
- 57:27Speaker 1: sent him to jail forever, very different from what he
- 57:30Speaker 1: eventually pled guilty to later on, And that backs up
- 57:33Speaker 1: everything that we have said here over the years. I mean,
- 57:35Speaker 1: the FBI agents and others had told us specifically about
- 57:38Speaker 1: this case and about some of the details. But to
- 57:41Speaker 1: read it and to finally see it all for yourself.
- 57:43Speaker 1: It basically, I mean, look, it does make it so
- 57:45Speaker 1: that all the people who originally defended the Plea deal,
- 57:47Speaker 1: they look like idiots in my opinion, Like if you
- 57:49Speaker 1: read through it, it's obvious. And so I don't know,
- 57:52Speaker 1: I guess that's it for all of us today. But yeah,
- 57:55Speaker 1: I hope it was useful to everyone. And I'll just
- 57:57Speaker 1: say there's a lot of work into it.
- 57:59Speaker 2: The victims have come forward, the survivors have said they
- 58:02Speaker 2: you know, they continue to be disgusted with the cover up.
- 58:05Speaker 2: They continue to be disgusted with the fact that victim
- 58:08Speaker 2: details were revealed, the names of powerful men were protected
- 58:12Speaker 2: and redacted. The Department of Justice continues to be in
- 58:16Speaker 2: violation of the law that was passed and signed into
- 58:18Speaker 2: law by President Trump about the level that they're supposed
- 58:22Speaker 2: to release, the amount of documents they are supposed to release,
- 58:25Speaker 2: what is supposed to be contained in there, what they're
- 58:27Speaker 2: supposed to redect, what they're not supposed to redact, et cetera.
- 58:30Speaker 2: So we'll leave it at that. And I'm sure, look,
- 58:33Speaker 2: it was three million files. It's a lot. There will
- 58:35Speaker 2: continue to be things that come out. Anything we find noteworthy,
- 58:38Speaker 2: we will continue to cover, but we wanted to do
- 58:40Speaker 2: as comprehensive and overview as of what we had seen
- 58:43Speaker 2: so far and the portrait that that.
- 58:45Speaker 1: All pains exactly. So we did our best. We corelated
- 58:48Speaker 1: all this stuff. This was all publicly released information, you know,
- 58:52Speaker 1: from the DOJ. In many cases where people had given
- 58:55Speaker 1: statements about it, we made an effort to read those
- 58:58Speaker 1: on here and just wanted to make clear that these
- 59:00Speaker 1: were information that was released you know, by the DOJ.
- 59:03Speaker 1: Being mentioned doesn't necessarily implicate wrongdoing, and to our best ability,
- 59:06Speaker 1: we've contextualized it here on the show. Okay, thank you
- 59:09Speaker 1: all so much for watching. We appreciate it. We'll be
- 59:11Speaker 1: back here tomorrow