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- 0:00Speaker 1: But you'd use that donkeys around here.
- 0:06Speaker 2: It's time for donkey.
- 0:09Speaker 3: Day.
- 0:09Speaker 1: They may be the bunky up to day.
- 0:12Speaker 2: By the things that I said, some donkey today's just
- 0:15Speaker 2: sell themselves. It was you, what accountability are you taking?
- 0:21Speaker 2: I'm not making the people do this day dounky of
- 0:24Speaker 2: to day. I'm the breakfast club. Everya said, I want
- 0:26Speaker 2: to start off with this donkey right here.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Yes, donkey of today for Monday, February twenty third goes
- 0:35Speaker 1: to the Bathti Film Awards. The host of the Bathtor
- 0:38Speaker 1: Film Awards, Alan Cumming and all the handlers of John
- 0:41Speaker 1: Davidson as well as John Davison. Okay, there are a
- 0:44Speaker 1: lot of people who are sharing in this donkey of
- 0:46Speaker 1: the day because if you haven't heard, John Davidson has
- 0:49Speaker 1: Tourette syndrome. Now, what is threat syndrome for those who
- 0:53Speaker 1: don't know, to wretches a disability a neurological condition that
- 0:57Speaker 1: causes a person to have involuntary movements in sound known
- 1:00Speaker 1: as takes. Now, one thing I learned about yesterday is
- 1:03Speaker 1: there is something called copurlaia play it, play it right?
- 1:09Speaker 2: What is copra lee copra lalier?
- 1:15Speaker 1: Okay, which is not common it affects only a small
- 1:18Speaker 1: minority of people. In fact, ten to fifteen percent of
- 1:21Speaker 1: people with tourets experienced copra laea.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Did I say it right, corporalia? Yes?
- 1:29Speaker 1: Yes, And it's one of the most misunderstood aspects of turets.
- 1:32Speaker 1: And I need to let this doctor tell you more
- 1:35Speaker 1: about it, because that is what John Davison suffers from.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Let's listen.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Corporalalia, as strictly defined, really means the uttering of swear words.
- 1:44Speaker 3: But in Tourett's syndrome, people who have coperealia oftentimes have
- 1:50Speaker 3: swear words, racial epithets, sexual epithets, or other kinds of
- 1:56Speaker 3: slang or words that really are socially inappropriate and shocking
- 2:03Speaker 3: to the person who might hear them or experience being
- 2:06Speaker 3: with a person with Trett.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Corporate la yeah, corporate le yeah, copor lay yeah. An
- 2:14Speaker 1: involuntary utterance of socially inappropriate I've seen our taboo words,
- 2:19Speaker 1: our phrases, often sexual profane, are insulting, keyword involuntary. People
- 2:25Speaker 1: are not choosing to say these things, and they usually
- 2:28Speaker 1: do not reflect the person's belief feelings, or intentions. See
- 2:32Speaker 1: that's what I don't believe, Okay, And we're going to
- 2:35Speaker 1: talk about that in a minute. But this weekend at
- 2:37Speaker 1: the Baptist Film Awards, John Davison had a number of outbursts.
- 2:41Speaker 1: See John Davison as the inspiration for the Bathto nominated
- 2:44Speaker 1: movie I swear never heard of it, and he had
- 2:48Speaker 1: quite a few outbursts throughout the ceremony, including screaming shut
- 2:51Speaker 1: the f up during an introductory speech from Baptist chair
- 2:55Speaker 1: Sarah Putt.
- 2:56Speaker 2: He screamed out.
- 2:57Speaker 1: F you when the directors of Boom one for Best
- 3:01Speaker 1: Children's in Family Film never heard of bull either. But
- 3:04Speaker 1: he saved his best outburst and most offensive for del
- 3:07Speaker 1: Roy Lindo and Michael B.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Jordan when they were.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Presenting the award for Best Visual Effects for Avatar, Fire
- 3:14Speaker 1: and ash.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Let's listen and don't bleep it.
- 3:17Speaker 4: Do and I delighted to be present them the first
- 3:19Speaker 4: baft of the night for a vital part of movie making.
- 3:25Speaker 1: That's not funny player one more time, bred I got
- 3:31Speaker 1: to hear one more time please h.
- 3:34Speaker 4: And A delighted to be present them the first baft
- 3:37Speaker 4: of the night for a vital part of movie making.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Team.
- 3:42Speaker 1: My reaction would have been cracker, just because I just
- 3:44Speaker 1: don't know why.
- 3:45Speaker 2: I just I just know I would have.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Been like, crack up, that's I thrier with fire that
- 3:49Speaker 1: just can't help it. Maybe I got Coproletia too, I
- 3:52Speaker 1: don't know.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Okay.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Now, the reason I'm giving the bathto Film Awards, Okay,
- 3:57Speaker 1: the host Allen Coming, and all the handlers of John Davidson, donkey,
- 4:01Speaker 1: is because the reality is he shouldn't have been in
- 4:04Speaker 1: the room. If a person has a condition that makes
- 4:07Speaker 1: him scream out inappropriate i've seen or taboo words, why
- 4:11Speaker 1: risk having him in the room. There are people that
- 4:14Speaker 1: networks wouldn't think about putting on TV, especially live TV,
- 4:20Speaker 1: because they have no idea what they might say. Example,
- 4:23Speaker 1: Kanye West, and Kanye's not diagnosed with Tourett's are what's.
- 4:28Speaker 2: That thing called corporalaliate? Yeah, or anything like that.
- 4:32Speaker 1: So you have this man, John Davidson, who has a
- 4:35Speaker 1: condition that he apparently can't control. So why would you
- 4:38Speaker 1: give him the opportunity to sit in this audience and
- 4:41Speaker 1: offend and insult people?
- 4:43Speaker 2: Okay, and listen. I don't like the fact that when
- 4:45Speaker 2: it comes to.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Corporal laea corporal aaliate, we say the words they speak
- 4:52Speaker 1: are involuntary. Okay, we say people are not choosing to
- 4:55Speaker 1: say these things, and they usually do not reflect the
- 4:58Speaker 1: person's beliefs, feeling, our intentions.
- 5:01Speaker 2: How the hell we know?
- 5:02Speaker 1: Okay, that's hard for me to believe. All Right, somebody
- 5:05Speaker 1: somewhere taught him the language. He was around people that
- 5:08Speaker 1: he learned this behavior in this language from, So don't
- 5:11Speaker 1: tell me they don't reflect the person's beliefs. I don't
- 5:14Speaker 1: know if they reflect the person's beliefs or not.
- 5:16Speaker 2: He didn't yell out black people. He yelled out niggas. Okay,
- 5:21Speaker 2: that says a lot. Now.
- 5:23Speaker 1: His symptoms, from what I read, first, began at twelve,
- 5:26Speaker 1: and he was diagnosed at age twenty five. If this
- 5:30Speaker 1: is accurate, he's eighty four now, so it's possible racism
- 5:35Speaker 1: is his default setting.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Okay.
- 5:37Speaker 1: What I don't understand is how come people with this
- 5:40Speaker 1: condition don't yell out fun stuff like titties? Okay, according
- 5:45Speaker 1: to the condition, you know, they often yell out. I've
- 5:48Speaker 1: seen sexual phrases too. I didn't hear one throughout the
- 5:51Speaker 1: whole ceremony. If you have those, where are they?
- 5:54Speaker 2: Okay?
- 5:54Speaker 1: All those women that hit the stage, not once did
- 5:57Speaker 1: he yell out. I hoard it Okay, not once did
- 5:59Speaker 1: he yell out Chase. Okay, that once did he yell
- 6:02Speaker 1: out about that pet thing? All right, where we've put
- 6:05Speaker 1: it in your mouth?
- 6:06Speaker 2: Okay.
- 6:06Speaker 1: If John Davidson would have sounded like Uncle Luke in
- 6:09Speaker 1: the nineties, then I might buy that he has a
- 6:11Speaker 1: conditioned thing. It's just convenient that he saved his most
- 6:14Speaker 1: offensive outburst for black people. Okay, Okay, I can be
- 6:18Speaker 1: respectful of the condition, but out all respect none of
- 6:21Speaker 1: y'all that allowed him to be there with the condition.
- 6:23Speaker 1: And then this morning, Good Morning America ran a story
- 6:27Speaker 1: saying bafter.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Had ample time to edit it out.
- 6:31Speaker 5: Let's listen the BBC apologizing to buftter viewers after several
- 6:35Speaker 5: obscene outbursts from Tourette's activists John Davidson were heard on
- 6:39Speaker 5: a broadcast. Davidson is the inspiration for the movie I Swear,
- 6:43Speaker 5: which was nominated for six Awards and took home the
- 6:45Speaker 5: Leading Actor after he was diagnosed with Tourett's syndrome at
- 6:49Speaker 5: the age of twelve. One outburst heard on the broadcast
- 6:52Speaker 5: was while sinistars Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo were
- 6:55Speaker 5: on stage.
- 6:55Speaker 4: Yo and he allowed him to be presenting the first
- 6:58Speaker 4: BAFT of the night for a vital part of movie making.
- 7:01Speaker 5: A racial slur could be heard while the men presented
- 7:03Speaker 5: the award for Best Visual Effects. Jordan and Lindo looked startled,
- 7:07Speaker 5: but continued on host Alan Cumming later asking the audience
- 7:10Speaker 5: for their understanding.
- 7:11Speaker 6: You may have heard some strong and offensive language tonight.
- 7:14Speaker 6: To it, syndrome is a disability and the ticks you've
- 7:16Speaker 6: heard tonight are involuntary, which means the person who has
- 7:19Speaker 6: to it syndrome has no control over their language.
- 7:22Speaker 2: We apologize if you were offended.
- 7:25Speaker 5: So the big question this morning why did these outbursts
- 7:27Speaker 5: remain on the broadcast when other parts of the event
- 7:30Speaker 5: were cut, like the words of one award winner who
- 7:32Speaker 5: said free Palestine, especially when you think that there was
- 7:35Speaker 5: a two hour delay on this broadcast. The BBC has
- 7:38Speaker 5: this morning issued a statement apologizing that Davidson's comments were
- 7:42Speaker 5: not edited out ahead of the broadcast, and they say
- 7:44Speaker 5: they will now be cut from the online version and
- 7:47Speaker 5: on streaming.
- 7:49Speaker 1: That have to suck my D, suck my D, suck
- 7:52Speaker 1: my D, suck my D, and I don't suffer from
- 7:54Speaker 1: no condition. Okay, these words, I'm telling you right now,
- 7:56Speaker 1: are voluntary. Okay, you need to tell me that you
- 7:59Speaker 1: edited out free pounds, tying and to edit it out
- 8:01Speaker 1: other things, but you let the niggas stay in. Okay,
- 8:03Speaker 1: come on, stress, come on man, come on man. That's
- 8:05Speaker 1: not what we mean when we say we want to
- 8:07Speaker 1: be inclusive. Okay, some things can be excluded, all right.
- 8:10Speaker 1: In fact, if you're going to have someone like John there,
- 8:12Speaker 1: which you shouldn't have, his outburst should be expected and
- 8:15Speaker 1: I should expect you to edit them.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Okay, I should expect you to edit them out.
- 8:20Speaker 1: But Bafter, you chose to not only have him in
- 8:22Speaker 1: the building, you chose to leave his offensive words in.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Suck my D, suck my D, suck my D. Bafter.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, everybody involved in the whole situation.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Okay, listen.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I'm all for being inclusive, but not if that inclusiveness
- 8:37Speaker 1: is gonna hurt and offend other people. Once again, there
- 8:40Speaker 1: are people that Baptor wouldn't even think to have in
- 8:42Speaker 1: the room because their offensive words have hurt others. Okay,
- 8:46Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me if those words were spoken voluntarily,
- 8:49Speaker 1: are involuntarily, If it's a chance those words can be
- 8:51Speaker 1: spoken and people can be hurt, then don't have them
- 8:54Speaker 1: in the room, okay. And the fact that you edited
- 8:57Speaker 1: it out certain things but left that in tells me
- 8:59Speaker 1: everything that I.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Need to know.
- 9:01Speaker 1: And if you're more mad at me for saying they
- 9:03Speaker 1: shouldn't have had John in the room, then you are
- 9:05Speaker 1: about John screaming Nigga and Bathta not editing it out
- 9:08Speaker 1: even though they could have while two great black men
- 9:11Speaker 1: were on stage.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Then you are part of the problem.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Just because you have a disability doesn't mean we will
- 9:17Speaker 1: tolerate the disrespect.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Okay.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Please let Chelsea Handler give the bath the film awards,
- 9:22Speaker 1: the host allan coming and the handlers of John Davison
- 9:24Speaker 1: the biggest he haw, he.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Haw, he haw. That is way too much. Dan Maynaes,
- 9:30Speaker 2: Kathy Grifford, you want in on this. Please give this
- 9:33Speaker 2: giant jar male the biggest he haw.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Oh you know, Chris Rock got corporate Laia.
- 9:41Speaker 2: You know.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Y'all didn't know that my girl that work at the
- 9:46Speaker 1: my girl that work at the restaurant got corporallya too right.
- 9:51Speaker 1: I'm telling you that they that those are involuntary outbirtht y'all. Okay, Chris,
- 9:57Speaker 1: Chris has a condition.
- 9:58Speaker 2: Stop that's crazy. Well, thank you for that dunk in
- 10:02Speaker 2: the day.
- 10:03Speaker 7: And you're right, like a disorder can explain behavior, but
- 10:05Speaker 7: it doesn't excuse it. But let's open up the phone
- 10:07Speaker 7: lines eight hundred five eight five, one oh five to one.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Right.
- 10:11Speaker 7: I guess the question is should we tolerate disrespect even
- 10:15Speaker 7: if it's a disorder?
- 10:16Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
- 10:17Speaker 1: And the fact that BAPTO edited out other things they
- 10:20Speaker 1: found defensive, like they they said they edited out somebody
- 10:23Speaker 1: screaming free Palestine, then you should have absolutely edited out
- 10:28Speaker 1: the end word that leaving that in with a choice.
- 10:30Speaker 7: I just wonder if they would have shouted out any
- 10:32Speaker 7: other groups of people, organizations, or or genres or LGBTQ,
- 10:37Speaker 7: or if it was any other body, was anybody else,
- 10:40Speaker 7: any other community, would they have taken that one out?
- 10:42Speaker 2: But they took everything else, and they leading it in.
- 10:46Speaker 2: I don't care they did it on purpose, there's no
- 10:51Speaker 2: there's no excuse. They know what they did.
- 10:52Speaker 7: And I'm with Charlamagne if I understand he's being nominated,
- 10:55Speaker 7: But if it's like that and you don't know what
- 10:58Speaker 7: he's gonna say, this shouldn't be a people.
- 11:00Speaker 2: He shouldn't be in the room. Absolutely, he shouldn't been
- 11:03Speaker 2: in a room and let's open up the phone.
- 11:05Speaker 8: Did you also see Atlin Cunning the host say that, uh,
- 11:11Speaker 8: this may trigger toret people with Tourette syndrome because of
- 11:15Speaker 8: the concept of the film.
- 11:18Speaker 2: What Yeah he said that.
- 11:21Speaker 8: Yeah, he said because basically, basically it's a nigga film.
- 11:25Speaker 8: So that's why he felt propelled to shout out.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Nigga with the up swear.
- 11:30Speaker 8: That's what they said.
- 11:32Speaker 2: You told me, trust myself. I saw this.
- 11:35Speaker 7: Le's going to the phone line eight five a five
- 11:38Speaker 7: one five one. Is it okay to accept disrespect because
- 11:42Speaker 7: someone has a disorder that's happening in disorder justified treating
- 11:46Speaker 7: others with disrespect? Let's talk about it. Eight hundred five
- 11:49Speaker 7: five one five one. It's the Breakfast Local Morning.
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