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- 0:00Hello chefs. You're listening to chefs.
- 0:02PS a podcast. I'm your host on Jeanette era.
- 0:04On today's episode we're going to dive back into the 48 Laws of
- 0:07Power part to stay tuned. So first, let's start with an
- 0:23update last week. I had talked about the kitchen
- 0:26Art of War, and I wanted to get a physical copy in my hands
- 0:30before I told you all to buy it. So anyway, got a physical copy
- 0:32in. My hands looks good.
- 0:34I wish the paper was a little bit better quality, but anyway,
- 0:36nonetheless looks good. Its full color slightly bigger
- 0:39than the previous books that I've published.
- 0:42So if you have the, the chef's PSA kitchen Journal, which if
- 0:45you don't, you should get one because how you can remember
- 0:47shit, if you don't write it down and how you can keep track of
- 0:50your recipes and your notes and all these brilliant ideas, and
- 0:52And journal if you don't have a journal.
- 0:56Anyway, we digress 6 by 9 so it's the same size as the chef
- 1:01Journal but it's so it's slightly larger than the other
- 1:03books which are five by eight. Number one, number two, it's
- 1:06full color and because it's full color and it's slightly larger.
- 1:10The printing cost is much more. So, it is the most expensive of
- 1:13the books, even though it is not the longest book.
- 1:17So, anyway, it's out. Go get it.
- 1:19You can find the link if you're going to get the ebook version,
- 1:22I First, you get the one on gumroad versus the one on Amazon
- 1:26simply because the one on gumroad.
- 1:29The file is exactly how it was. Originally intended to be the
- 1:32one on Amazon does get distorted a little bit when you convert it
- 1:36to Kendall. So, not all the images are in
- 1:39the right place where they should be etc.
- 1:41Etc. Anyway, if you're going to get
- 1:43the pdf version or the ebook version, get it off gumroad.
- 1:46If you want the print copy and and the only reason I've made it
- 1:48a print copies because people were asking for it.
- 1:50So I wasn't intending on printing a tie.
- 1:52I just wanted to write it because I like the idea of
- 1:55writing these books. You know, I like shorter books
- 1:58quick because long books, I read a lot of books and I know how
- 2:01difficult it is to read all these books.
- 2:03So I know people's attention span is that they're especially
- 2:05in today's world of social media and constant distractions, and
- 2:08you all are most likely Chef. So, you're busy working.
- 2:10I don't know if you want to read books, but I am working on
- 2:14another book, and I'm working on two books, actually, and I'm not
- 2:18sure which one we should publish first.
- 2:20So, I have an idea to one is Titled bad Sue.
- 2:24And it's it's kind of like the first, the first two books, you
- 2:29know, the how not to be the biggest idiot in the kitchen and
- 2:31line. Cook survival manual, it would
- 2:33be like a manual for Sous chefs and I call it bad soup because I
- 2:37want to write it as examples of, you know, for example, a bad
- 2:41suit talks badly about their chef.
- 2:44So that's what a bad suit would do.
- 2:45And then underneath it give an example of what a good sous chef
- 2:48would do. So that's one book idea.
- 2:49The other book idea I have is to write one.
- 2:52Called The Chef's mindset and this would be mental practices
- 2:55and things that I do and things that I would advise people to do
- 2:58to sharpen their mental acuity to become better chefs.
- 3:02And I've said this before on the podcast, I've said it in many of
- 3:05my books I think the biggest differentiator someone could
- 3:08have because at a certain level everyone understands how to cook
- 3:11and really what separates the great, the great chefs from
- 3:15everyone else is that they're they're able to think
- 3:18differently their ability to think differently is what makes
- 3:22them who they Our it's the Rene redzepi is of the world or the
- 3:24fur on Audrey's anyway. You get the point.
- 3:27So that's what I'm up to. I know I've said previously that
- 3:30I don't plan on having guests on the podcast but I am working on
- 3:33something just so people know. I do get invited to a lot of
- 3:37events and I got a lot of food festivals or Awards or you know,
- 3:41whatever I am out there being a socially awkward butterfly at
- 3:45times. I'm thinking about doing a
- 3:49podcast at a food event where I get to talk to the different.
- 3:52Participants Participating chefs, so that might happen.
- 3:55It's in the works. I'm not saying it's going to
- 3:57happen, but if it does happen most likely it'll happen you
- 4:00know very quickly and maybe I'll have video behind it.
- 4:03So I could create content for YouTube, Etc, Spotify, whatever.
- 4:07Anyway we digress. Let's get into the 48 Laws of
- 4:10Power. So if you listen to the last
- 4:12episode, you'll know that we were on law 10.
- 4:15Now, you don't have to listen to these in chronological order,
- 4:18but I am giving them to you in chronological order.
- 4:22So let's start with law number 11.
- 4:26Lot number 11 is learn to keep people dependent on you.
- 4:30Now, what does that mean as a chef?
- 4:33A lot of people say, I disagree with the statement, a lot of
- 4:36people say, well, don't make yourself Irreplaceable.
- 4:39I think you should be Irreplaceable.
- 4:41That's what creates value, right?
- 4:43I'm going to name some Irreplaceable.
- 4:45Chefs, Grant Achatz, Charlie Trotter.
- 4:48Daniel boulud. Massimo, Butera the Roca
- 4:52Brothers. D.
- 4:53Chefs are irreplaceable. Why wouldn't you want to be like
- 4:55them? They have something unique and
- 4:58because they've something unique about them.
- 5:01People pay lots of money for their food.
- 5:05People pay, lots of money to get them to do whatever they want.
- 5:07And these are some of the most successful chefs in the world.
- 5:10So, in my opinion, that's exactly what you need to be
- 5:13doing. Is you need to keep people
- 5:15dependent on you. You need to become the star of
- 5:17the show as a chef. I would also say as a cook,
- 5:20There's some strategy involved in this, and I'll tell you what,
- 5:22I mean, if your goal is to make more money and let's say you're
- 5:27the grill cook, for example, then you need to become the best
- 5:30grill cook that they need you because this is how it works in
- 5:33most kitchens. The person that works with the
- 5:35most expensive product, usually gets the most amount of money
- 5:38because there's a cost associated with it.
- 5:40So maybe if you're a seafood restaurant, the person that
- 5:43butchers all the fish might make more money than the person that
- 5:46cuts the herbs because the fish is the most important thing on
- 5:49their menu and it's the most expensive.
- 5:50Like that they're working with and a lot of restaurants in a
- 5:53majority of restaurants that's usually the person that works on
- 5:56the grill because they work with the proteins.
- 5:58So they have the highest amount of skill and because they have
- 6:01the highest amount of skill. And what I mean by skill is that
- 6:03the margin of error you know the fewest amount of steaks get sent
- 6:06back when this person is on the line and because of that they're
- 6:09able to command more money. They might be making
- 6:11significantly more than everyone else on the team.
- 6:14So having people dependent on you, I don't think is a bad
- 6:17thing. I actually think it's a good
- 6:18thing and it works to your advantage.
- 6:20It helps you get promoted if they depend on you, if the
- 6:23kitchen operates better, when you're there, then that means
- 6:27that they're going to want you there.
- 6:28They're going to want to fight to keep you there it what?
- 6:30It's what separates you from everyone else and gives you a
- 6:35competitive Advantage. Now, I'm not saying that you
- 6:37can't transfer that knowledge, but even that, even that ability
- 6:41to transfer knowledge, that's a valuable skill, not everyone
- 6:45could be a great teacher. So just because you might not be
- 6:48the best cook in the world but you might be an excellent
- 6:50teacher. Right?
- 6:51Or you might be an excellent marketer.
- 6:52Those things are what create value for you.
- 6:55So, keep people dependent on you.
- 6:57I think is an important one to keep law.
- 6:59Number 12, use selective honesty and generosity to disarm your
- 7:04victim. Now, as a chef, I could tell you
- 7:07that this goes a long way. This is everything from simple
- 7:10gifts that you give to your boss being likeable being honest.
- 7:15When the, when the time is when the time is right, when you're
- 7:18honest, in a big situation, people will think you're I stand
- 7:21every situation. This is just human nature.
- 7:25Also, with on the subject of generosity.
- 7:28Like, I used to work with this guy and I'll tell you the story,
- 7:30I won't say who but anyway, used to work with this guy and he was
- 7:33slick, you know, I as someone who practices The Art of War and
- 7:37understands the 48 Laws of Power.
- 7:40When you understand those tactics, you're able to
- 7:42recognize when other people are trying to use them against you.
- 7:46And I worked with this guy and he would always bring me gifts.
- 7:49He would say, oh, you know, I got you Sir, I got you that but
- 7:52he wasn't necessarily the best cook, he wasn't necessarily the
- 7:55best employee, but he was really good.
- 7:57At giving you gifts, he was really good at bringing you
- 7:59stuff. He was also really good at
- 8:00giving you information. So, the gossip that was going on
- 8:03out there he would be the little, the little spy in the
- 8:05kitchen. Now, I know why this person was
- 8:08doing that. They were doing that because
- 8:10they didn't want to get fired because they are not the best
- 8:12employee. So they make up for the fact
- 8:14that they're not a great employee by giving you gifts, or
- 8:17giving you information or being honest in situations where you
- 8:20need someone to be. Honest with you, but I recognize
- 8:22what they're doing. A lot of people don't recognize
- 8:24this. Now, if you're a chef, if you're
- 8:26an executive chef for a head chef and you've taken over
- 8:28multiple places, you'll notice something, whenever you take
- 8:31over a new place, there's always one person that wants to sit
- 8:35down with you and say, hey, Chef, can I meet with you really
- 8:37quick and they like spill the beans on everything that's going
- 8:42on in the kitchen? Who's good?
- 8:43Who's bad? Who's on ethical?
- 8:46Who's stealing who drinks on the job?
- 8:48You know, who's not a good cook all that.
- 8:50Like, there's one Person that comes to you on day one.
- 8:53When you're the new chef and gives you like all the dirt on
- 8:55everyone else unsolicited. I should say, it's happened to
- 8:59me in almost every single Chef job I've ever taken.
- 9:01There's always that one person that comes to you what I've
- 9:03discovered is that person is usually the one that I can't
- 9:06trust like when that person comes to Mary, I find out.
- 9:09Okay? Not everyone else is the
- 9:11problem, you're the problem. They're usually the ones that
- 9:15are stirring the pot like I said before because they're
- 9:18overcompensating for some other lack.
- 9:21That they have. And usually that lack is skills
- 9:23in the kitchen or there. They also like to call off or
- 9:26steel or whatever, but they just want you to focus on everyone
- 9:28else so they could get away with what they need to get away with.
- 9:30Now, if you've been in the kitchen long enough, you
- 9:32understand that all these things happen and you cannot stop it.
- 9:35The best thing you do is try and mitigate it and prevent it to a
- 9:39minimum. So anyway, let's move on Lot.
- 9:41Number 13 when asking for help appeal to people's
- 9:44self-interest, never to their Mercy or gratitude, here's
- 9:48something everyone should know. If you don't If you ever want
- 9:51someone's help, you need to understand that it has to be
- 9:55what's in it for me. Like that's the first thing that
- 9:57goes through. Everyone's mind if you're coming
- 9:58to me for help, what's in it for me?
- 10:01I'm not going to help you just because I'm kind.
- 10:04Now, that's not always the case. Sometimes I do help people just
- 10:07because I'm kind But the reality is most people.
- 10:10The first thing is like if you come to them and you say, help
- 10:14me out and there's nothing in it for them, if you come to them
- 10:17again, they don't really want to help you if anything to actually
- 10:21try and avoid you. It's like, okay, it's like the
- 10:23person that comes and says, hey can I borrow some money and then
- 10:28they come to you again and say, hey, can I borrow some money
- 10:29like second or third time you eventually want to keep your
- 10:32distance from this person? Because you know, there's
- 10:34nothing ever in it from for you, right?
- 10:37They just become a nuisance to you.
- 10:38You so the same thing applies in The Culinary world.
- 10:40If you're going up to someone saying, hey can I have some
- 10:43chives because I don't have any on my station.
- 10:46Okay, one time that's fine but then you become that person that
- 10:49habitually comes to them and says, hey I need this in.
- 10:51Hey need that and you're always asking but you're never
- 10:54returning the favor. So if you want people to do
- 10:56things for you you know it kind of ties into the last one, you
- 10:59need to go in and say this is what I'm going to do, but this
- 11:01is what I'll do for you. So hey can you cut my chives
- 11:04today and then I'll clean your station so you could get out
- 11:07early. So there has to be some sort.
- 11:08Of exchange of energy for the favor.
- 11:11If there is no exchange than what that leads to is resentment
- 11:15and distrust later on. So the first thing that you have
- 11:20to ask yourself whenever you're going to ask someone for a favor
- 11:23is is there anything in it for them and if there's not, you
- 11:26might need a reframe what you're going to ask them for that favor
- 11:30because they bite to it. But to then that might be the
- 11:33last favor you'll ever get from them.
- 11:35And it might cause a little bit of resentment.
- 11:38In the relationship between the two of you so little off-topic
- 11:42rant. When I recorded the last one, I
- 11:44was a little harsh on myself because I thought, I don't know
- 11:46if I was being if I was giving you guys like the real, the real
- 11:50real. Sometimes I was holding back a
- 11:52little bit because, you know, the audience that listen to this
- 11:54podcast range from entry-level Cooks to seasoned executive
- 11:57chefs. And so sometimes I want to just
- 12:00say, look, this is, this is the way it is.
- 12:02Like, this is some ugly things that I've seen in the kitchen
- 12:04and these are some dirty tactics.
- 12:05So, I held back a little bit. So I'm going to, I'm going to
- 12:09try not to hold back as much because there needs to be a good
- 12:14understanding of reality. So now we get into law 14.
- 12:17Which this is going to apply to pose as a friend but work as a
- 12:21spy This is everything from networking with other chefs
- 12:27learning from other people in different kitchens.
- 12:29This is the line cook next to you is you need to be nice to
- 12:33get information. Sometimes this posing as a
- 12:36friend, but working as a spy helps, you get into information
- 12:40that you may need to help you out, with whatever it is that
- 12:44you may potentially be working on.
- 12:45Now, I'll tell you this. Again, I mentioned earlier,
- 12:49people do this, like you might not think that this happens, if
- 12:52you don't think. It's happening.
- 12:54It's because you're not doing it but someone's doing it to you.
- 12:56So, you need to keep your keep your antenna up.
- 13:00Keep your spider senses sharp because I know I have Chef
- 13:04friends that, you know, they think I'm not aware that they,
- 13:08that they use me as a spy, or that they're a spy and that they
- 13:12use me for information. I'm aware.
- 13:14But I play the game, right? Because, you know, I'm, I'm Keen
- 13:19to what's happening. So like, you guys, Mess with me.
- 13:23Like I'm the I'm the kitchen Art of War guy.
- 13:26You guys aren't going to get past me with your tricks.
- 13:28Like I wrote the damn book. Literally I wrote the book
- 13:30anyway. Law number 15, crush your
- 13:33enemies. Totally.
- 13:35This is one is it's a bit brutal.
- 13:37If another restaurant to spreading - rumors about you,
- 13:40people are saying things about you.
- 13:42If you have a cook in the kitchen, that is saying things
- 13:45that they shouldn't say. If someone's done something in
- 13:48your kitchen, you have to. When I say crush your enemies
- 13:50that might mean firing someone for insubordination.
- 13:53In in the moment, it's a show of power as the chef, when someone
- 13:56gets away with something, what's happening in the kitchen,
- 13:58there's a social Dynamic. When someone misbehaves in the
- 14:01kitchen and does something inappropriately, it's all eyes
- 14:04on you if you're the chef because now, everyone's watching
- 14:06you and saying, what is what are they going to do?
- 14:09How are they going to handle this situation?
- 14:10If you handled it poorly, right? And you've done nothing about
- 14:14it. So let's say someone's done
- 14:15something bad and you did nothing about it.
- 14:16Now, what you have to do is you're going to have to correct
- 14:20every single person that does it now because they just Just all
- 14:23said, well, it's acceptable because that person didn't got
- 14:26away with it, we could all get away with it.
- 14:28The idea of it's not a rule unless it's enforced, you have
- 14:32to keep that in mind. So when you see someone break
- 14:35one of the deadly sins in your particular workplace, if the
- 14:38rule is fire them for that, you have to fire them period because
- 14:41if not, then you're going to create dissension amongst the
- 14:44ranks. Everyone's going to say, oh,
- 14:46it's okay for them but it's not okay for me.
- 14:47So if the rule is, the rule is, the rule is the rule for
- 14:49everybody. Right.
- 14:51You have to crush them as difficult as it may be, because
- 14:55I know it's difficult, you build relationships with people, you
- 14:57care about them and sometimes they do something totally
- 15:00stupid. It's like you can't do anything
- 15:01about it, but if someone is out there, another restaurant doing
- 15:06your food and they're like, let's say your sous.
- 15:09Chef has left and gone somewhere else and they're doing your food
- 15:11like you need a Burnham. I hate to say that, but if
- 15:16they're hurting your business or they're calling people up and
- 15:18stealing your Cooks because they used to work there, And then now
- 15:21they've gone to another place down the street and now they're
- 15:23calling all your employees. Like I've been with people that
- 15:26said, you know, get the lawyers involved cease-and-desist like
- 15:29the second that you allow people to do that as the second that it
- 15:32becomes. Okay?
- 15:34You have to, you have to prevent people from doing that, and I'll
- 15:37give one more example of, you know, crushing your enemy
- 15:42totally and, you know, Charlie Trotter, when you think about
- 15:45this, there was a documentary on them, it's a great documentary.
- 15:48Everyone should go watch. I did a podcast on it, but he
- 15:51was known. And I think Grant Achatz talks
- 15:53about this in his book that if you didn't work there for a
- 15:56certain amount of time, don't ever put them on your resume and
- 15:59a lot of chefs are like that, a lot of a lot of great chefs
- 16:02stick to this Rule and that is If you don't work for me for a
- 16:05minimum of one year, don't even say you worked here.
- 16:09And the reason they do that is because it usually takes someone
- 16:12approximately six months to get good at their job.
- 16:15And then the next six months is usually the return on the
- 16:17investment for the person that hired you.
- 16:19So if you're not even going to make it a year, then it was a
- 16:23lot of effort, put in, on the time of the person that hired
- 16:27you, but they never got to their full return on the second that
- 16:30you were proficient at your job. And so what ends up happening in
- 16:34a lot of great kitchens. And I'm, and I'm making this
- 16:36example up, let's say you're working at the best restaurant
- 16:40in Copenhagen and you went there and you were, you know, you were
- 16:43doing a stash and you worked there for three months and then
- 16:47you leave there. But all you really did at that
- 16:49stage was, you know, pick herbs or whatever.
- 16:51And then you leave there and then you get a sous chef job or
- 16:55you get a head, chef job at a restaurant in a smaller City.
- 16:59You used that place as a stepping stone just to get the
- 17:02name on your resume. Um, and three months later, now,
- 17:05you're, you're a hot commodity, a hot commodity and, you know, a
- 17:10non-primary market. Let's not fair to the people
- 17:14that are still there that have been there that have been
- 17:16earning it, right? So that's why it rubs a lot of
- 17:18people, the wrong way and a lot of people say, if you don't do a
- 17:21year here they're going to crush you for it.
- 17:23So don't even don't even list them because they'll, they'll
- 17:25say oh yeah that person didn't really work.
- 17:27Here they did this down the other or they'll say no we
- 17:29don't, we never heard of him. So anyway, be aware that there
- 17:32are people out there that will crush you for That number 16,
- 17:35use absence to increase respect and honor.
- 17:39I'm not sure if everyone's heard the expression familiarity
- 17:42breeds contempt and that is when you get too familiar with
- 17:44people, that's usually when they start pushing the line a little
- 17:49bit further and further with you.
- 17:50So if you're a sous chef like you go out drinking with people.
- 17:55You go out drinking with your Cooks.
- 17:56The next day, it's very difficult to hold them
- 17:58accountable when they're like, hey, last night, I saw you
- 18:01shit-faced. I had to pick you up off the
- 18:02floor. And today, you're yelling at me
- 18:04because my chives aren't, right? What about last night.
- 18:06That idea of familiarity, sometimes can work to your
- 18:10detriment, it's good to be around your people and it's good
- 18:13to be friendly with them, but the second that you get too
- 18:16close as the second that it starts to work to your
- 18:19disadvantage, right? How are you going to hold
- 18:22someone accountable for something.
- 18:24Very You very difficult when they're your best friend.
- 18:27This is something that a lot of people struggle with when they
- 18:30get into into leadership positions, especially when
- 18:33they're new Sous chefs, as you get too comfortable with the
- 18:35people around you and then you have a hard time when they talk
- 18:38back to you, right? And those people can't sometimes
- 18:41disassociate you with a friend outside of work in the boss
- 18:44inside of work, using absence to increase respect and honor as a
- 18:48good thing. So sometimes step away
- 18:50disappear, go on vacation, don't go out with them all the time.
- 18:54I'm make the relationship between you and everyone else
- 18:57sometimes a little bit more professional and less familiar
- 19:00and sometimes that can work to your advantage, there has to be
- 19:03a little bit of a line between leadership and and people that
- 19:09aren't in the leadership positions because it makes it
- 19:12easier when times come to give orders or hold people
- 19:16accountable. Now, I'm not saying like this is
- 19:18a gray area and that line is different for everybody.
- 19:21It depending on the restaurant. But what I am saying is, if you
- 19:24are Too comfortable, it will work to your detriment law.
- 19:28Number 17, keep others in suspended Terror, cultivate an
- 19:31air of unpredictability. This is like classic old school
- 19:34kitchens, you know, where the chef was a walking temper,
- 19:38tantrum, the air of unpredictability.
- 19:41So obviously this is I don't condone that explosive
- 19:44environment. I am an intense Chef.
- 19:47When I, when I used to be a chef, I was intense.
- 19:49But I wasn't like a yelling Chef.
- 19:52I was just intense. Like, I was focused.
- 19:53I was disciplined to know. I was Was 00 negotiation on the
- 19:59standard. The standard is the standard is
- 20:00the standard, but one thing that I used to have this Chef that
- 20:03would come up to me and they were a big guy and he put his
- 20:08hand on my shoulder and you know, it's like I think it was
- 20:1210 feet tall, they need whisper in my ear.
- 20:16What are you doing? And I'd say I'm cutting the
- 20:19Tomato, chef. And he would stay silent and he
- 20:22would say they look good and my heart would be beating.
- 20:26I like what is he going to? Is he going to beat me up for
- 20:28the tomatoes? Like are they not right?
- 20:30But it was like, he had this, like, you never knew like, is he
- 20:34going to tell me that I'm Incorrect and throw it in the
- 20:38trash and start over? Or was it?
- 20:40They're good and I never knew his like in here, always have
- 20:42this dramatic, pause of Silence. So one thing that I used to do
- 20:47in kitchens is you know we'd have like health inspection
- 20:50drills. Drills like would be printed out
- 20:52on the wall. So if a fire is not a fire drill
- 20:54that health inspector showed up. Everyone know do this Step 1
- 20:58Step 2, Step 3, step 4, and everyone had a role.
- 21:00So, this person does this, this person does that.
- 21:02So you go get the sanitation, buckets.
- 21:04You go do this that the other make it, or make sure that
- 21:07everything's labeled and dated now, inevitably, yes, I had high
- 21:09standard kitchens but we're also dealing with human beings and
- 21:12not everything was perfect all the time, but sometimes I would
- 21:15fake these fire drills. Like, I'd say the Health
- 21:16Inspectors here, and I'd see everyone scramble and decide the
- 21:19other, because I just wanted to keep them on their toes.
- 21:21They Ever knew when it was real or we'd say the food critic is
- 21:24in. We think.
- 21:25Oh, that's the that's the food critic right there.
- 21:28Just to keep people. Keep everyone sharp just to see
- 21:31how they're going to perform under stress, right?
- 21:33So the The more stress and and unpredictability that you could
- 21:40that you could Implement in your operation, the better people
- 21:43were perform in those situation. If you're never in a stressful
- 21:47situation, it's going to be chaotic.
- 21:49When that stressful situation comes at, if you've worked in
- 21:51kitchens, You understand almost every day is stressful and
- 21:53chaotic but it it's a it's a predictable stress and chaos
- 21:57every now and again, there's the the unpredictability that's
- 22:01introduced through a food critic or a health inspector or, you
- 22:06know, the power going out or the micros going down, whatever the
- 22:08case may be, when those things happen, it's like okay.
- 22:10Now we've introduced a new element of chaos and this
- 22:13unpredictability keeps people on their toes and it helps people
- 22:18get better. So introducing Unpredictability
- 22:22in your kitchen. I think is something that will
- 22:25help sharpen your team and keep them keep them engaged.
- 22:29And also, you know, adrenaline sometimes is a good thing, like,
- 22:33especially for Cooks, right? We're all Adrenaline Junkies.
- 22:36And, you know, the mundane can seem born.
- 22:38But you remember those days that were like, like, in the moment,
- 22:41they suck. Like everyone's like, oh, that
- 22:42day was terrible at the end of the day, like, you know, but the
- 22:45next day you're like, oh, you got stories and you want to
- 22:47share with your buddies, like, oh this happened and man, I was
- 22:50sweating, but you love it. It right in retrospect all those
- 22:54crazy moments, most of them, you love number 18.
- 22:58Do not build fortresses to protect yourself.
- 23:00Isolation is dangerous. So, this is almost a counter to
- 23:04what we talked about earlier about using absence to increase
- 23:07respect and honor here. This this is may be pointing out
- 23:11the opposite. Is that You need to engage with
- 23:15your team but let's let's take it a step further, you need to
- 23:17engage with the culinary Community.
- 23:19You need to be involved in food events.
- 23:22Food festivals. You need to go to people's
- 23:24restaurants. You need to be involved with
- 23:27your vendors, and people need to know.
- 23:31You need to be on social media. You can't, you can't be isolated
- 23:34from the world especially as a chef if people don't know who
- 23:38you are. That's going to be very
- 23:39difficult to attract customers to your restaurant.
- 23:42But moreover, it's going to be difficult to attract people to
- 23:44come work for you. It's also going to be difficult.
- 23:47When that time comes that you want to go to the next job.
- 23:49If no knows who you are, then who's going to vouch for you,
- 23:53right? Because that's what ends up
- 23:55happening. Is they call someone say, hey,
- 23:56did you work with? So and so, yeah, they're great
- 23:58or they're not, so great. But the worst thing is like,
- 24:01hey, have you ever heard of so-and-so?
- 24:03And I was like, nah, never heard of them.
- 24:05There are ghosts like, that's, that's the worst.
- 24:07And sometimes I would have those conversations with people when
- 24:10you be hiring this person, like a do, you know?
- 24:11They're, like, no, there are ghosts, they have no social
- 24:13media. While no one's ever heard of
- 24:15them, they don't know any vendors, they don't go to any
- 24:19events like why should we can't hire them?
- 24:21So let's say you're doing a cooking interview and you have a
- 24:24reputation, everyone knows you, you have some awards, you're in
- 24:27the Press. You go to all the food events,
- 24:28you have a good social media page and let's say you bomb on
- 24:31the cooking interview and you don't do well.
- 24:33People are going to be like, yeah, but I've had their food
- 24:36before. This might have just been an off
- 24:38day and they're in, you're going to get the job, right?
- 24:41So you get a little bit of they cut you a little bit of slack.
- 24:45Now let's say no one's ever heard of you and you're a ghost
- 24:47and you bomb on the cooking interview?
- 24:49Well, they have nothing to go off of there because they will
- 24:50that must be how they perform all the time.
- 24:53So, having a presence and not isolating yourself in The
- 24:57Culinary world is a good thing, have some sort of presence.
- 25:01And let people know who you are. Number 19 know who you're
- 25:04dealing with. Do not offend the wrong person.
- 25:08I think this goes without saying, like be mindful of who's
- 25:12in the dining room. I might be a food critic like
- 25:14they might, they might be a major influence or with millions
- 25:18of followers that are going to hurt your business, right?
- 25:23I know people that have pissed off a food critic and then their
- 25:26restaurants are closed shortly afterwards, right?
- 25:28It happens. I mean, I hate to say that I've
- 25:31been In a situation like that, but when my dining experience
- 25:34with the food critic didn't go. Well, my restaurants ended up
- 25:37closing, not too long, after that, I know that from
- 25:38experience food critics might not have as much power as they
- 25:41used to, but influencers do or certain people on open table or
- 25:46whatever. The case may be also be
- 25:47respectful of your boss, you don't want to offend them,
- 25:51right? You never you never know how
- 25:53someone's going to react to being offended.
- 25:56Maybe you don't know but in a lot of cases you don't and
- 26:00sometimes you could offend someone and you might have just
- 26:03pushed the wrong button on the wrong day and boom.
- 26:05Now you're out of a job you offended.
- 26:07The bosses friend or you said something you made an
- 26:09inappropriate joke or whatever the case may be like you need to
- 26:11be careful about knowing who you're working with because you
- 26:16burn one bridge and you might be burning 10, other one's right?
- 26:20Because that person may be a powerful person and you get
- 26:22blacklisted and say, okay you know that don't ever hire that
- 26:25person. They group text all their
- 26:27friends with the photograph and say don't hire that person.
- 26:30Now that happens that does happen.
- 26:32Like people think that doesn't have, it does happen.
- 26:34I've interviewed people from restaurants and then I'll text
- 26:37my buddy and say, hey do you know?
- 26:40So and so that worked at this restaurant and they'll say
- 26:42absolutely don't hire them that that does happen.
- 26:45And I don't know the backstory and it's just a simple, don't
- 26:48hire them. I know my friend and I trust
- 26:50them, I don't know this person and if they say don't hire them,
- 26:53there must be there must be a reason that they said that.
- 26:55But maybe there No reason, maybe the reason is they just made a
- 26:58joke that they didn't like or maybe they just didn't, maybe
- 27:01they just didn't like them. I don't know that.
- 27:03But I'm going to take the word of the person.
- 27:04So point being is you must be careful who you're being
- 27:08offensive to number 20 do not commit to anyone.
- 27:12This is something that I'm learning more and more right
- 27:16now. As I do chefs, PSA is, I get a
- 27:19lot of people that want to work with me.
- 27:21I get asked to do a lot of things and when I was a chef,
- 27:24you would say yes to most things if they I kind of fell in line
- 27:27with what you were doing, but now I get asked to do things
- 27:30that I like, this is a new world.
- 27:32I might get asked to go to a public speaking somewhere or,
- 27:34you know, do a presentation somewhere.
- 27:36And now, I'm realizing, like, I can't say, yes to everything.
- 27:40I need to be selective to certain things because a lot of
- 27:43people just want you for their gang, but don't necessarily care
- 27:48about what you're doing right. A lot of people want to use you
- 27:52because of the audience that you have or they want to use you.
- 27:56To help build their name. But like we said earlier like if
- 27:59there's nothing in it for me it's a something-for-nothing
- 28:01deal. And you have to understand that
- 28:03you cannot commit to every single thing.
- 28:06Just practice saying, no. And I think that's a useful
- 28:09skill. Something that I'm learning
- 28:11more. As I'm like, I said, I'm going
- 28:13down this path, but it's something that I've learned
- 28:15lately, as I say no to a lot more things now than I say yes,
- 28:18too. So, anyway, keep that in mind.
- 28:21Number 21, play a sucker to catch a sucker seem dumber than
- 28:25your mark, and I touched on this a little bit earlier that
- 28:29sometimes. I'll play naive in the situation
- 28:32just so I could set a trap or so I could get more information or
- 28:35sometimes I'll just plain. I even give them bad
- 28:37information. I think everyone usually assumes
- 28:42that they're smarter than you in general.
- 28:43Like in general like get five of your friends around you and ask
- 28:47them. Do you think you're smarter than
- 28:48me? And I guarantee you like, four
- 28:51out of five are going to think that they're smarter than you
- 28:53and I guarantee you you're thinking you're smarter than all
- 28:55five most of the time right. You have to use that to your
- 28:58advantage. Sometimes I'll act dumb.
- 29:00Like I remember, I remember I was having a conversation with a
- 29:03good friend of mine and they had to introduce someone new to the
- 29:06conversation. They brought up a subject that
- 29:07was like my wheelhouse and I could speak about it at length
- 29:11like they weren't On My Level to even have this conversation and
- 29:14they brought the subject up and my friend was like, oh don't
- 29:17don't bring this subject up around, Andre.
- 29:19Why would you ask him? Like he knows everything about
- 29:21the subject, but I didn't I play dumb and we had a good
- 29:25conversations sometimes I will disarm people by Being a little
- 29:31less knowledgeable on subjects than I really am just because I
- 29:36get to understand the person a little bit more and see their
- 29:39true character, their true intention.
- 29:41So anyway, I'm always playing chess 3D chess, or 40 chest,
- 29:46which everyone's better anyway. That's all we're going to get to
- 29:49today. So I'm going to continue on with
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