Latest / The Nova Frequency Podcast / From Solidarity to Xenophobia: Africa's Forgotten Lessons
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- 0:00Freedom is a strange thing. When you don't have it,
- 0:03you will do almost anything to get it. You will
- 0:05be the world to hear your cries. You will have
- 0:08strangers to stand beside. You you will of someone anyone
- 0:12will be your pain but history asks us a far
- 0:15more uncomfortable question. What happens after your finally free? Do
- 0:20you become the kind of possible protect others from suffering?
- 0:23Or do you slowly become the very thing you want
- 0:26fought against South Africa wants to add a center of
- 0:30one of History greatest Injustice, which is appetite a system
- 0:36built on segregation exclusion. On telling people, they did not
- 0:39belong because of Woody where and Africa did not look
- 0:43away countries across this continues, with South Africa. Nigeria, especially
- 0:48our government, spoke our people contributed money, our musicians, son,
- 0:54our students protested. Our diplomats fought in international stage, not
- 1:00because of Africans winning Nigeria but because they are paying
- 1:03belonged to Africa. Today, many years later, Africa's migrants are
- 1:09being haunted businesses, destroyed families, displays life lost, not because
- 1:16they are committed crimes but because the crossed a border.
- 1:21So today I have just one question, how does the
- 1:24people who wants beg the world to see their Humanity?
- 1:27Struggle to see the humanity in others? Welcome to the
- 1:31Nova frequency a podcast where we get to think deeper
- 1:34and listen differently. This is not a podcast about teaching,
- 1:38what to think. It is a space for conversation that
- 1:40goes beyond the surface, the conversations people often to afraid
- 1:44to have or to comfortable to question. My name is
- 1:48a sister Nova. Becomes difficult human beings are always set
- 1:55for someone to blame history repeats, this part of economic
- 1:59action, unemployment Rising crime, political failure, inside of comforting. Complicated
- 2:06problems. We often choose a simpler enemy. The outside, the
- 2:10Immigrant The Foreigner, because it is easier to point at
- 2:15a neighbor that to fix a nation. So let's all
- 2:19comfortable question. If any Foreigner left, South Africa, tomorrow would
- 2:24only disappear would electricity stay on when the cost of
- 2:32living. So they fall probably not, which means maybe immigrants
- 2:37are in the disease. Maybe they are simply the easiest
- 2:41symptom to attack. Let's go back long before hashtag long
- 2:47before social media, Nigeria stood with South Africa during apartheid.
- 2:51Not because we expected with payment but because Injustice anywhere
- 2:55in Africa was considered everyone's concerned ordinary Nigerians donated money
- 3:00workers contributed part of their salaries. Students, marched artist raised,
- 3:05awareness, diplomas push for sanctions against apartheid Africa. Believed that
- 3:11when one nation suffered, we all suffered that was not
- 3:14charity. It was so, he is what trouble is me.
- 3:18How do we move from your struggle? Is our struggle
- 3:22to go back to your country out of his brother
- 3:26would become suspicious. But before we Nigerians, begin uploading ourselves,
- 3:31let's be on August. This episode isn't about proving we
- 3:35are morally Superior because you this doesn't belong to South
- 3:39Africa alone. If you experience economy, action and a southern
- 3:44rise in Immigration, when every Nigeria respond with compassion, would
- 3:48some of us also be blaming outside. Do we sterile
- 3:53type people from neighboring countries? Do we more accents? Do
- 3:56we use war that we use people to wear to
- 3:59come from? If we are honest, we are not to
- 4:01me, which means this episode is in, about South Africans,
- 4:05it is about us. It is about human nature. One
- 4:09of History saddest lesson is that suffering? Does not automatically,
- 4:13make people compassionate, sometimes it's simply change, Woody, and reacts,
- 4:19the oppressed can become your person. The victims can become
- 4:23the perpetrator. Freedom, doesn't erase Prejudice. It only gives us
- 4:28an opportunity to confront it. And if we don't histories
- 4:32simply changes uniforms, Here is another question when citizens are
- 4:38angry, who benefit if that anger is directed at immigrants,
- 4:42instead of institution when unemployment rights who benefits, if people
- 4:47are demanding better governance. When frustration boy is over, who
- 4:53benefits when it conversation becomes about? Foreigners is of field
- 4:57leadership. Sometimes the easiest enemy is in the Real Enemy.
- 5:02It is simply the most convenient one. Africa, is warm
- 5:08one Africa, African brother. Those was sounds beautiful or to
- 5:13their testing, but I would even make sure by speaking.
- 5:17It is measured by how we treat one another, where
- 5:20we sources are scarce, it is easy to lock Africa,
- 5:23win the economy is booming, it is much harder when
- 5:26Dairy competition for jobs. I've seen an opportunity, that's where
- 5:31our values are tested. Every country has the right to
- 5:36protect its borders. Every nation has the right to enforce
- 5:40its immigration laws. That is not the issue. The issue
- 5:43begins when people stop seeing human beings and start saying
- 5:46enemies history should have thoughts that exclusion is dangerous. That
- 5:51discrimination destroyed Nations that violence solves. Nothing. Yes, we are
- 5:56Africans. Fleeing Africans fearing Africans, fighting Africans. But the greatest
- 6:04tragedy isn't that civilian State exists? It is that we
- 6:09have forgotten why we fought for each other in the
- 6:11first place. Because the lessons of appetite was not simply
- 6:15that racism is evil. It was that no human being
- 6:18should ever be treated as less human because of where
- 6:21they come from and if we forget that lesson, we
- 6:24haven't really learned at all. This has been in love
- 6:28with frequency. Remember seeing people and listening differently? Freedom is
- 0:00a strange thing. When you don't have it, you will
- 0:03do almost anything to get it. You will be the
- 0:06world to hear your cries. You will have strangers to
- 0:08stand beside. You you will of someone anyone will be
- 0:12your pain but history asks us a far more uncomfortable
- 0:16question. What happens after your finally free? Do you become
- 0:21the kind of possible protect others from suffering? Or do
- 0:24you slowly become the very thing you want fought against
- 0:27South Africa wants to add a center of one of
- 0:31History greatest Injustice, which is appetite a system built on
- 0:36segregation exclusion. On telling people, they did not belong because
- 0:40of Woody where and Africa did not look away countries
- 0:44across this continues, with South Africa. Nigeria, especially our government,
- 0:49spoke our people contributed money, our musicians, son, our students
- 0:55protested. Our diplomats fought in international stage, not because of
- 1:00Africans winning Nigeria but because they are paying belonged to
- 1:04Africa. Today, many years later, Africa's migrants are being haunted
- 1:10businesses, destroyed families, displays life lost, not because they are
- 1:16committed crimes but because the crossed a border. So today
- 1:21I have just one question, how does the people who
- 1:25wants beg the world to see their Humanity? Struggle to
- 1:28see the humanity in others? Welcome to the Nova frequency
- 1:32a podcast where we get to think deeper and listen
- 1:35differently. This is not a podcast about teaching, what to
- 1:38think. It is a space for conversation that goes beyond
- 1:41the surface, the conversations people often to afraid to have
- 1:44or to comfortable to question. My name is a sister
- 1:48Nova. Becomes difficult human beings are always set for someone
- 1:56to blame history repeats, this part of economic action, unemployment
- 2:01Rising crime, political failure, inside of comforting. Complicated problems. We
- 2:07often choose a simpler enemy. The outside, the Immigrant The
- 2:12Foreigner, because it is easier to point at a neighbor
- 2:15that to fix a nation. So let's all comfortable question.
- 2:20If any Foreigner left, South Africa, tomorrow would only disappear
- 2:29would electricity stay on when the cost of living. So
- 2:32they fall probably not, which means maybe immigrants are in
- 2:38the disease. Maybe they are simply the easiest symptom to
- 2:42attack. Let's go back long before hashtag long before social
- 2:48media, Nigeria stood with South Africa during apartheid. Not because
- 2:52we expected with payment but because Injustice anywhere in Africa
- 2:55was considered everyone's concerned ordinary Nigerians donated money workers contributed
- 3:01part of their salaries. Students, marched artist raised, awareness, diplomas
- 3:07push for sanctions against apartheid Africa. Believed that when one
- 3:11nation suffered, we all suffered that was not charity. It
- 3:16was so, he is what trouble is me. How do
- 3:19we move from your struggle? Is our struggle to go
- 3:23back to your country out of his brother would become
- 3:26suspicious. But before we Nigerians, begin uploading ourselves, let's be
- 3:32on August. This episode isn't about proving we are morally
- 3:35Superior because you this doesn't belong to South Africa alone.
- 3:41If you experience economy, action and a southern rise in
- 3:44Immigration, when every Nigeria respond with compassion, would some of
- 3:49us also be blaming outside. Do we sterile type people
- 3:53from neighboring countries? Do we more accents? Do we use
- 3:56war that we use people to wear to come from?
- 3:59If we are honest, we are not to me, which
- 4:02means this episode is in, about South Africans, it is
- 4:05about us. It is about human nature. One of History
- 4:10saddest lesson is that suffering? Does not automatically, make people
- 4:14compassionate, sometimes it's simply change, Woody, and reacts, the oppressed
- 4:20can become your person. The victims can become the perpetrator.
- 4:24Freedom, doesn't erase Prejudice. It only gives us an opportunity
- 4:28to confront it. And if we don't histories simply changes
- 4:33uniforms, Here is another question when citizens are angry, who
- 4:40benefit if that anger is directed at immigrants, instead of
- 4:43institution when unemployment rights who benefits, if people are demanding
- 4:49better governance. When frustration boy is over, who benefits when
- 4:54it conversation becomes about? Foreigners is of field leadership. Sometimes
- 4:59the easiest enemy is in the Real Enemy. It is
- 5:02simply the most convenient one. Africa, is warm one Africa,
- 5:09African brother. Those was sounds beautiful or to their testing,
- 5:14but I would even make sure by speaking. It is
- 5:17measured by how we treat one another, where we sources
- 5:21are scarce, it is easy to lock Africa, win the
- 5:24economy is booming, it is much harder when Dairy competition
- 5:28for jobs. I've seen an opportunity, that's where our values
- 5:32are tested. Every country has the right to protect its
- 5:37borders. Every nation has the right to enforce its immigration
- 5:40laws. That is not the issue. The issue begins when
- 5:44people stop seeing human beings and start saying enemies history
- 5:48should have thoughts that exclusion is dangerous. That discrimination destroyed
- 5:52Nations that violence solves. Nothing. Yes, we are Africans. Fleeing
- 5:58Africans fearing Africans, fighting Africans. But the greatest tragedy isn't
- 6:06that civilian State exists? It is that we have forgotten
- 6:09why we fought for each other in the first place.
- 6:12Because the lessons of appetite was not simply that racism
- 6:15is evil. It was that no human being should ever
- 6:18be treated as less human because of where they come
- 6:21from and if we forget that lesson, we haven't really
- 6:25learned at all. This has been in love with frequency.
- 6:29Remember seeing people and listening differently?