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Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 20 2026 · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome everybody tuesday clay and buck starts now great to
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  Speaker 1: be with you and much to discuss as tends to
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  Speaker 1: be the case donald trump the man himself out in
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  Speaker 1: kansas on the campaign trail lighten it up.
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  Speaker 2: And uh we think that this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a critical part we're hoping will be a critical part
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  Speaker 2: of the Republicans' late push to pull out some, perhaps
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  Speaker 2: come from behind wins, or maybe just break the tie
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  Speaker 2: or the deadlock in their favor in some of these
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  Speaker 2: most important, most critical elections that are out there, which
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  Speaker 2: we continue to discuss. Trump also weighed in on the
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine-Russia conflict, and this is something that we all recall,
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  Speaker 2: or certainly Clay and I recall, Trump said that he
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  Speaker 2: would fix this in one day. We remember we And
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  Speaker 2: I think that was– was that the same interview where
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  Speaker 2: he said Putin was genius and then the entire world
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  Speaker 2: flipped out?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I believe that was, in fact. If I remember correctly,
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  Speaker 3: a February of 22 Clay and Buck show exclusive from
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  Speaker 3: Mar-a-Lago that set the world on fire.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he's genius. And he was talking about
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  Speaker 2: in a specific context that in context it all made sense.
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  Speaker 2: But of course, it was just he said Putin's a genius.
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  Speaker 2: So they got all crazy about it. Michigan Senate race.
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  Speaker 2: That one is one of the biggest, most important in
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  Speaker 2: the country. I wonder, Clay, which one, when all is
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  Speaker 2: said and done, is going to be the most expensive?
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  Speaker 2: Texas race is super expensive. Michigan race is super expensive.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good time to be in local TV, Buck.
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  Speaker 3: This is like Christmas morning every day, I would imagine,
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  Speaker 3: for business executives who happen to own those Battleground State
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  Speaker 3: local ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox affiliates. And a lot
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  Speaker 3: of companies elsewhere. It's a great question. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: if I had to ask you, if you could know
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  Speaker 3: one outcome as we sit here two weeks away, only
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  Speaker 3: one race. but you had to extrapolate based on the
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  Speaker 3: outcome of that race. I've got an answer. Which race
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  Speaker 3: would you want to know the outcome of? You can
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  Speaker 3: know the exact totals, exact results. I think we might
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  Speaker 3: have the same answer here, but for me, it's Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: It's Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking Michigan. I think I might go Ohio now.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Because if we don't win the Ohio Senate, then I
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  Speaker 3: think there's no way we're going to win Michigan.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And so Ohio Senate to me, Michigan, you could lose.
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  Speaker 3: We could lose. I said that Mike Rogers going to
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  Speaker 3: win by twenty six thousand votes. Very specific. If I'm
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  Speaker 3: if I'm wrong and we lose Michigan by fifteen thousand votes,
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  Speaker 3: it could still be a really, really good midterm for
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  Speaker 3: the battleground states because Michigan is a stretch. Well, but
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  Speaker 3: if we lose Ohio, we're cooked. Let me just put
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  Speaker 3: it that way, succinctly, as the kids would say.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We are cooked.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're going to hope for some ticket splitting
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  Speaker 2: there because I do think Vivek Ramaswamy is in a very,
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  Speaker 2: very tough spot right now. But let's look at this. Kansas.
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  Speaker 2: Why are we talking about Kansas? Not that Kansas isn't
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  Speaker 2: worthy of discussion, of course. Great state. Great state, the Kansas.
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  Speaker 2: But Donald Trump was there campaigning for Republican candidates, and
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  Speaker 2: he is supporting Senator Marshall, who is locked in a
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  Speaker 2: The media is saying, at least, Clay, unexpectedly tight race
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  Speaker 2: against Democrat candidate and Methodist pastor Adam Hamilton. So Trump
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  Speaker 2: is going around this state now, which they're calling a
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  Speaker 2: battleground on this. I have a hard time believing it's
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  Speaker 2: as tight as some of the pollsters and some of
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  Speaker 2: the media are saying. And remember... The greatest pollster in Iowa,
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  Speaker 2: according to the mainstream media, had the biggest whiff of
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  Speaker 2: any pollster we've ever seen in her state that she
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  Speaker 2: was in charge of.
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  Speaker 3: And Seltzer going out. That's actually, Buck, we should make
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  Speaker 3: a Seltzer, like make it a word that we use
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  Speaker 3: for someone who goes out at the absolute worst of
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  Speaker 3: their career, right? This would be, she had an esteemed
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  Speaker 3: career as a pollster. Everybody talked about her. Then she
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  Speaker 3: came out and said Kamala was going to win. Iowa,
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  Speaker 3: and Kamala lost Iowa by 13. I think she was
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  Speaker 3: 16 points off in her final poll. That's a seltzer.
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  Speaker 3: When you go out as the absolute worst of what
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  Speaker 3: you did for your career.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So pollsters can be very wrong, as we know. But
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  Speaker 2: they're saying Kansas is tight. So Trump is there doing
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  Speaker 2: the Trump thing on the campaign trail, where he is
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  Speaker 2: certainly at home and an asset to get the base
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  Speaker 2: fired up. But while that's all going on, I want
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  Speaker 2: to note, Clay, the French riots are also just spiraling
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  Speaker 2: completely out of control. The interior minister there, kind of
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  Speaker 2: like their DHS secretary equivalent, I would say. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's rough equivalent, but the interior minister offered to resign
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  Speaker 2: because he said, look, our cops, the police, the security
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  Speaker 2: forces have just completely lost control in these areas. They're
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  Speaker 2: not even pretending. Macron, Emmanuel Macron, the president, has said, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: don't resign. Trump is now weaving into this that this
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  Speaker 2: is not just about Democrats. This is about which party
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  Speaker 2: stands with Western civilization, which party stands with the most
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  Speaker 2: core and fundamental values of our society, not just now,
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  Speaker 2: but for centuries, perhaps for millennia. This is cut one.
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  Speaker 2: Trump and Kansas hit it.
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  Speaker 7: The Democrat agenda is a plan to extinguish Western civilization.
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  Speaker 7: They want to open the borders. They want to, to me,
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  Speaker 7: the biggest sin. The inflation, we've got it cooked. The inflation,
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  Speaker 7: once that oil comes down, that'll be the final straw.
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  Speaker 7: But the inflation, the worst thing they did to us
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  Speaker 7: is allowing 25 million people into our country, totally unchecked,
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  Speaker 7: totally unvetted. We've gotten most of them out. We're getting
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  Speaker 7: the rest of them out very soon. They want to
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  Speaker 7: shut down our power plants. They want to set loose
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  Speaker 7: the criminals, turn your children transgender, confiscate your money, and
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  Speaker 7: raise up the Palestinian flag right in the middle of
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  Speaker 7: your wonderful state. And at the same time, they're willing
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  Speaker 7: to defile our great and very beautiful American flag.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to let that happen. Palestinian flag while
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  Speaker 2: they defile our American flag, Clay. That plays well in Kansas,
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you.
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  Speaker 3: I am very confident, Buck, as we sit here two
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  Speaker 3: weeks away. There's no way. And again, everybody should go vote.
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  Speaker 3: I have already voted. Have you voted yet, Buck? I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to lecture you until you get out.
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  Speaker 2: It's been 24 hours, buddy. It's early voting. Settle down.
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  Speaker 3: I want you to send an important message to this
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  Speaker 3: audience by getting out and voting as early as possible.
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you, Kerry and I already discussed. We
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  Speaker 2: want to go together. So we discuss what day this week.
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  Speaker 2: But we are going to early vote for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Early vote numbers already coming in. And I feel very
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  Speaker 3: good about Kansas, about Iowa. about Nebraska, where they've tried
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  Speaker 3: to expand the battleground. You and I are in agreement.
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  Speaker 3: I will be very surprised if we don't see Ken
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  Speaker 3: Paxton win in Texas. I think Tallarico is plummeting. The
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  Speaker 3: fact that he vanished from the campaign trail for nearly
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  Speaker 3: two weeks, obviously not ideal.
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  Speaker 2: For his overall... He just had a cold.
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  Speaker 3: It was just a cold. Again, Ohio, there was a
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  Speaker 3: poll that came out that showed Husted up. That one's
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  Speaker 3: going to be very close.
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  Speaker 4: Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: But I am confident increasingly in red states. And I
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  Speaker 3: will say, Buck, that I do think we need to
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  Speaker 3: talk more about the decoy Dan situation in Alaska.
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  Speaker 2: That one worries me a little bit, too, because it's
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  Speaker 2: so hard. How do you gauge that? All the polls,
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff you're looking at. So, well, how many
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  Speaker 2: people are going to be confused on Election Day? How
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  Speaker 2: do you I don't know how you get.
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  Speaker 3: It so dirty what they are doing in Alaska. And
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  Speaker 3: it's not getting as much attention because it's Alaska. I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: there's not as much media up there. There's not as
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  Speaker 3: much covering of that incident. The fact that they named
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  Speaker 3: a guy, that they got a guy on the ballot
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  Speaker 3: with the same name, and they know it's going to
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  Speaker 3: come down to potentially a few thousand votes in Alaska.
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  Speaker 3: It could be the situation that the Senate majority comes
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  Speaker 3: down to how many Alaskans accidentally vote for the wrong guy.
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  Speaker 3: It's just such a colossally dirty move. And if Democrats,
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  Speaker 3: if Republicans did it, it's all you would hear about.
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  Speaker 3: It would be in the news everywhere. And instead, this
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  Speaker 3: is this is just, I think, frankly, unacceptable. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: did you see that Trump called out? We talked about
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  Speaker 3: this on the program. One of our callers called in
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  Speaker 3: who was a doctor and said the way that Abdul
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  Speaker 3: El-Sayed has been describing himself is inaccurate. Trump went after
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  Speaker 3: him pretty aggressively. This is cut to saying that he's
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  Speaker 3: not actually a doctor. He's a fake doctor. Again, if
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  Speaker 3: you're going to go after Katie Zachariah over not passing
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  Speaker 3: the bar exam, remember, I give credit to one of
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  Speaker 3: our callers who was a doctor called in. said the
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  Speaker 3: fact that Abdul El-Sayed has been saying for years that
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  Speaker 3: he never did a residency, he can't treat patients, that
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  Speaker 3: he is in some way a doctor. Cut to, listen
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  Speaker 3: to this.
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  Speaker 7: Abdul Mohammed El-Sayed, you think, a fake doctor. He's a
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  Speaker 7: fake doctor. By the way, if he were using those
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  Speaker 7: credentials as a Republican, he would have been run out
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  Speaker 7: of the country by now. He's a fake doctor.
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  Speaker 2: But you know.
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  Speaker 7: They think they're doing well, but they have no idea
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  Speaker 7: of the giant they have awoken and unleashed. It's this
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  Speaker 7: giant right here all over the country.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with him, by the way. There is, well,
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  Speaker 2: as we always say, Republicans get tired. Conservatives get tired
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  Speaker 2: about pointing out the double standards that exist in our
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  Speaker 2: society for Democrats and liberals where we have standards and
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  Speaker 2: they don't. So our standards get used against us. That
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  Speaker 2: absolutely would be a huge thing if he were a Republican.
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  Speaker 2: And you say, well, what does that mean? Trump's talking
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  Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, it would be New York Times articles
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  Speaker 2: about it. It would be late-night TV jokes made about it.
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  Speaker 2: It would be a huge thing. They would flood the
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  Speaker 2: zone with, he's a fake doctor. And I thought people
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  Speaker 2: were pretty harsh on Katie Zachariah about that situation, considering
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  Speaker 2: she did go to law school, she did have a JD.
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  Speaker 3: Nonetheless.
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  Speaker 2: uh the the standard for somebody to be a senator
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  Speaker 2: should be if anything even higher way being a way
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  Speaker 2: higher right even you know you're writing laws you're not
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  Speaker 2: just a spokesperson not that it's just a spokesperson it's
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  Speaker 2: a big job but you get what i'm saying so
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  Speaker 2: i i think uh i think there's that and by
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  Speaker 2: the way trump actually leading into this one too the
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  Speaker 2: muhammad Middle name situation. This is cut three.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 7: The Democrats are the party of Abdul Mohammed Al Sayyad.
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  Speaker 7: You know, he got very upset because I called him Mohammed.
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  Speaker 7: I just felt like it. Somebody said, how did you
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  Speaker 7: do that? I said, I'm the president. I can call
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  Speaker 7: him whatever the hell I want. And then they sent
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  Speaker 7: me his full name. And actually, his middle name is Mohammed.
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  Speaker 7: You can believe it. One good thing, if you call
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  Speaker 7: somebody from that part of the world Mohammed, you're about 65%
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  Speaker 7: sure to get it right. So if you have any
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  Speaker 7: problem with names, just call the guy Mohammed, you'll probably
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  Speaker 7: be right. And he's an arrogant guy. I see him
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  Speaker 7: being interviewed. I'm a lot nicer than him.
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  Speaker 8: I see him being interviewed.
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  Speaker 7: What right do you have to ask that question? But
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  Speaker 7: your sister is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
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  Speaker 2: How dare you?
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  Speaker 6: Turns out she is.
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  Speaker 2: He is too, by the way. And so is the mother. Clay,
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  Speaker 2: can we just... everyone just soak it in. You will
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  Speaker 2: never have a president this entertaining again, the rest of
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  Speaker 2: your life. I'm sorry. It's just not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So just take it in right now. This guy is
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  Speaker 2: a phenom on this, on the trail.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. I love Mike Rogers. If
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  Speaker 3: Trump were running against Abdul El-Sayed, he would win by
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  Speaker 3: multiple points in Michigan as a, as a candidate. One
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  Speaker 3: you can take as a lesson going forward. oftentimes the
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back in. We've been talking about all the different
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  Speaker 3: battlegrounds across the country and how many of them are competitive.
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  Speaker 3: And frankly, I think a lot of people are surprised.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not those of you listening to us right now
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  Speaker 3: on WOR. But Bruce Blakeman, according to a recent poll,
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  Speaker 3: Republican candidate for governor only down four points against Kathy Hochul.
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  Speaker 3: Kathy Hochul, not a particularly popular governor. Bruce, we appreciate
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  Speaker 3: you making the time. Know how busy you are running
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  Speaker 3: all over the place. What are you seeing and hearing
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  Speaker 3: as this campaign plays out? And how do you believe
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  Speaker 3: you can put together a coalition to beat Kathy Hochul?
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  Speaker 3: We've got an audio or video issue, I think, with Bruce.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe dial it back because I can hear him a
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  Speaker 3: little bit in my ear and let's figure it out. Buck,
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  Speaker 3: one of the challenges, obviously, as you well know, because
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  Speaker 3: you were born and raised in New York City, is
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  Speaker 3: there is a upstate vote and the upstate vote is
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  Speaker 3: a lot of normal people. And then there is a
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  Speaker 3: New York City vote, which is filled with a lot
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  Speaker 3: of crazy left wingers, the same people who. elected Zoran Mamdani.
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  Speaker 3: And so the goal is to try and be as
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  Speaker 3: competitive as possible in New York. And Trump got, as
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  Speaker 3: you well know, a lot more New York City support
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  Speaker 3: in 2024 than he had in past years, while at
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  Speaker 3: the same time managing to continue to motivate the base
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  Speaker 3: in upstate New York to show up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that this is one of those times
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  Speaker 2: where there hasn't been that much attention paid to a
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  Speaker 2: race that is in fact Very much within striking distance.
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  Speaker 2: If you recall, I forget the numbers offhand. We could
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: look them up, Clay. But it was at the 2022
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: race for New Jersey governor was very close. And nobody.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: 2021, New Jersey. I'm sorry, 2021. But 2022 was the
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: election where Kathy Hochul defeated Lee Zeldin. And it came
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: down to five points. I mean, it was a very
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: winnable race in general. And Bruce Blakeman is trying to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: build on the success that he saw Lee Zeldin put together.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: And as we were talking about earlier, Buck, a big
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: part of this story is not only what happens in
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: the governor's race, but also if Republicans show up to
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: support Bruce Blakeman and other Republican candidates, including an attorney
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: general who is trying to make a run with Letitia James.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: All of that can kind of stack up and make
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: a big difference in the congressional races as well.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: So Phil Murphy back in 2021, I was trying to
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: remember the year, 2021 race, that off year, Phil Murphy
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: beat Jack Cittarelli by three points. That's in New Jersey.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: It was about 84,000 vote difference in the state of
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: New Jersey. And you had two point, call it 2.9,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: basically three million votes cast, 84,000 vote margin. Super tight.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And so there's hope here that maybe New York could be,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: you know, going down a similar pathway where it hasn't
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: gotten a lot of national attention. But look, let's just
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: say Kathy Hochul is a Nimrod, honestly. And I don't
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: mean to be mean. You know, maybe she I don't
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: know if she has grandkids. She probably does. She's probably
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: a mom. I don't know much about her personal life.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: She's maybe a nice enough lady in person. I don't know.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I doubt it. But maybe she is.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: She's an imbecile.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: And she's a terrible governor. And she's only the governor
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: because she was bringing Buffalo to the table while Cuomo
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: was governor. And Cuomo was giving was giving too many
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: cheek smooches and side grabs to his female supporters. That's
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the only reason she's governor.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: We've got now Bruce Boikman on with us. Appreciate all
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: the time that he is spending with us in the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: midst of this race. I just said to start the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: interview a bit ago, but I'll reiterate it. What are
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: you seeing on the ground and how optimistic is it
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: that you believe you may have an opportunity to win?
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: And what do you need New Yorkers to do to
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: make that possible?
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Well, we've seen about 12 polls around the state, congressional races,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: assembly races, Senate races, our internals. And we've also heard
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: from Democrats who are privy to their polling and also
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: to independent PACs who have been polling this race. We're
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: in a virtual dead heat with Kathy Hochul. It's improbable,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: as it seems, in this deep blue state. People are
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: fed up with Kathy Hochul. She's the worst governor in America.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: We're the highest taxed state in America. Our utility bills
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: are 70 percent higher than the national average. People feel
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: unsafe in their communities. Now she's partnered with Zohra Mondami,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: a guy that's a communist. And the two of them
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: just want to tax us into oblivion and let criminals
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: run rampant in our communities. So people are fed up,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: and Kathy Hochul's unfavorables are very high, and we're running
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: a very aggressive campaign. We've raised the money. We've brought
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: the fight to the people, and we're going to win.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And give us some of the things, if you would, Bruce.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Thanks for being here, by the way, with us. And
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the great thing is you're talking to, we got WOR
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: out of NYC, which reaches for hours car drive in
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: all directions for the tri-state, but also stations all over
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: New York. And as Clay pointed out, you've got some
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: real pockets of sanity when you get out of the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: five boroughs of New York City. What are some of
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the decisions Hochul has made specifically that you just would
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: want to remind New Yorkers about? that has really had
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: a deleterious effect on their quality of life, on their
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: ability to pay their bills?
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: So let's start off with 48 utility rate hikes in
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: the last four years. That's one a month. And the
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: reason why our utility bills are so high is because
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: she's completely wedded to green energy. It's a scam. We're
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: not going to be able to provide enough energy with
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: wind turbines in the middle of the ocean or solar
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: farms in upstate New York that are under snow. three
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: months out of the year. It's a fantasy, but she's
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: collecting billions of dollars every month from our payments to
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: invest in these things with foreign corporations coming in and
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: getting billions of dollars in subsidies, and we're getting very
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: little energy. We could start fracking tomorrow on the southern
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: tier in New York. We've got one of the largest
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: natural gas reserves in the world. Increase our energy supply
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: by a tremendous level and cut our utility bills in half.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: So that's what I'm hearing from people, number one. Number
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: two are taxes. We're the highest taxed state in America. Tax, tax, tax.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: She's taxed everybody out of New York State. That's why
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of people have left. That's why hundreds
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of thousands of businesses have left, all just in the
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: last year. And her policies, castless bail towards criminals. She
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: is the most pro-criminal governor in the United States of America.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Now she won't let ICE cooperate with local law enforcement.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: We have illegal migrants who have committed murders, attempted murder, rape.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: A 14-year-old girl was raped by a legal migrant just
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: last month. And Kathy Hochul is indifferent to the fact
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: that our communities are less safe. They won't let local
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: law enforcement do their job. And she's spending $ 8 billion
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: over the last four years and another $ 1. 7 billion this
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: year on free food, free housing, free transportation, and a
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: free cell phone for legal migrants. All you've got to
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: do is come to New York, claim asylum, and you
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: get more benefits than a New Yorker gets. On day one,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: that's over. We're going to spend the money on New Yorkers.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: We're going to cut their taxes, cut their utility bills.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: And I will sign an executive order on my first
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: day of office saying we are no longer a sanctuary state.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Bruce, I want to dive in a bit granular here
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: because I remember we talked to Lee Zeldin a few
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: years ago on the program and the impact that that
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: he had in that close race against Kathy Hochul last time.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: He talked about what you have to do in New
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: York City and what the turnout needs to be like
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: there for a Republican to win, because a huge part
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: of the Republican vote is upstate for people who don't.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: know the New York area very well. That's point one.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Point two, Buck and I have had a big debate
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: about Jewish voters. Jewish voters have moved in New York
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: in particular very much in the direction of the Republican Party.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Do you think that's still happening? What's the impact of
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Mamdani in terms of motivating people in the New York
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: City area and beyond of all different backgrounds to potentially
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: turn out? What can you tell us about the data?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Jewish voters are scared to death
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: of Zoran Mondami and his radical policies. He won't even
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: denounce global intifada, which was the reason for the attack
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: on 9-11, which was the reason for the attack in
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Israel on October 7th. He won't even denounce that. He's
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: a radical. He's anti-American. He's anti-Semitic. And he's anti-Christian. So
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: people are scared to death of him. Jewish voters are
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: coming over to us in droves, but also other Democrats
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: are coming over. You know, this isn't a party of
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Hugh Carey, Mario Cuomo, or even Bill Clinton.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: You know, we had policy differences with them, and our
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: differences could be very sharp on policy. But one thing
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: about them that I was convinced of, they loved America.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Zoran Mondami, he doesn't love America. Kathy Hochul endorsed him.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: He's endorsing her. They're campaigning together. AOC doesn't love America.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Chevalier doesn't love America. Lander doesn't love America. We've got
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: a Democratic Party that's been taken over now by the
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: DSA and people who hate America. And Democrats are starting
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: to realize this ain't the party they signed up for.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: So every day another Democrat says, Bruce, I'm a lifelong Democrat,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: never voted for a Republican in my life. This year,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: we're voting for you. We're voting Republican. Our party is insane.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Bruce Blakeman, Blakeman4NewYork. com is his website. He is running,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: and it is a real race. It is a tight
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: race in New York, despite the huge Democrat registration advantage
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that Kathy Hochul has. What's it going to take here, Bruce?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: What has to happen to break your way, meaning what
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: groups and what issues perhaps propel to the forefront so
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that you could pull off what is clearly possible? And
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: we want to make sure everyone understands that you could
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: win this race. It would be considered an upset just
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: because it's Democrat stronghold New York. How does it happen?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Walk us through the finish line.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: So we're going to win this race. We could use
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: some help. Go to BlakemanForNewYork.com. So my launching pad is
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Long Island, where I have a strong presence and people
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: like what I've done. Haven't raised taxes in five years,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: cut $ 150 million in taxes, have the safest county in America.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: So it starts on Long Island. Let's move to New
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: York City. New York City. We need to get at
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: least 32% of the vote to be competitive. 36%, we
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: win hands down. We're at 33% now. We've got a
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: little way to go. Like I said, Democrats, independent voters
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: are breaking our way there. Westchester, can't lose Westchester by
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: 20 points. Lee lost it by 20 points last time.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: We're making tremendous inroads there. I believe that we're going
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to cut that in half. Upstate New York, we're doing phenomenally.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: The turnout is amazing so far for all of our rallies.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: We can't keep our lawn signs in our headquarters. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: we are now dead even in her home county, Erie County,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: the home of Buffalo, 45-45. I've been endorsed by the
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Buffalo PBA. They know Kathy Hochul better than anybody else.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: And they say she has made Erie County less safe.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: They're going with me. So we're going to get a
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: big turnout. Gun owners... They got to get off their
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: ass and vote. In the past, they haven't voted. There's
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: a million gun owners that didn't vote four years ago.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Go vote. That's the way you can express your patriotism.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: A lot of people died for your right to vote.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Get up. Go vote because Kathy Hochul wants to take
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: your guns away.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: It's important not only for you to win, but we
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: were talking about the down-ballot impacts. Last question for you.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I know you got a big race on the Attorney General.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are moving there. If you're frustrated,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: furious about Letitia James, if you're angry about a lot
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: of what Zoran Mamdani has done, there's a lot of
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: down-ballot races that matter a great deal, too. Tell us
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: about the ticket overall.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Well, Sarisa Kamaduretti is a seasoned prosecutor who She's as
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: bright as they come, and she'll be a great attorney general.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Joe Hernandez, he's the American dream story, came from Cuba,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: emigrated here. He has made a fortune in finance, wants
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: to give back to the community to be the controller.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: But we've also got to win our congressional races. You know,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: we need to make sure that Mike Johnson is the
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Speaker of the House of Representatives. That could... be done.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: It could be sealed. The deal could be sealed right
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: here rather than have Hakeem Jeffries. So our congressional candidates,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Michael Waller, very important. Janine Driscoll, Mike Lepetri. These are
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: all races we can win. Kayleigh Buller. All races we
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: can win here in New York. We can win five
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: races new congressional races here in New York. I'm very optimistic.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Our state senate, state assembly candidates, our local candidates. We
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: need a red wave because I don't want a lonely
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: victory up there in Albany all by myself. I'm going
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: to need help in Washington. I'm going to need help
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: in Albany. I'm going to need help on the local
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: level because we have to fundamentally... change our state, save
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: our state, put New Yorkers first, and get back to
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: American values.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Bruce Blakeman, bring home a W, sir. I still love
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: New York. I'm a born and raised New Yorker, so
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I would love to see it move into the right direction.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Keep up the good work, sir. Appreciate you.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Thank you. God bless you. God bless America.
• 30:19
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  Speaker 2: All right, third hour. Clay and Buck. It kicks off
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: right now. And we're joined by the one and only
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  Speaker 2: Miranda Devine, our friend from the New York Post, author
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: of some great best-selling books, an expert on many things. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: also hosts of Podcast One. Right? Pod Force One. Pod
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: The host of, or rather the author of many great
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  Speaker 2: books and articles, a lot of expertise on different things. Miranda,
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  Speaker 2: great to see you. And yes, Pod Force One being
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• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Fantastic to be with you, Clive and Buck. Thank you
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: for having me.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: So we have a couple of topics we want to
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: hit with you today, including the Alyssa Slotkin comments, if
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you have time for that. But first off, you have
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: done a deep dive, if you will, into... The Ilhan
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Omar alleged immigration fraud issue. What can you tell us
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: about what you found and what do you see happening now?
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Well, that was actually back in 2021. And I wrote
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: a story that I had been contacted by a source
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: who there was a group of GOP sort of businessmen,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Republican-leaning businessmen, who were outraged about the fact that there
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: was so much circumstantial evidence that Ilhan Omar, the congresswoman,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: had married her brother illegally to help him get immigration status.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: And the FBI was doing absolutely nothing. So they decided
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: to get this guy to go and gather the DNA,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: and then they paid to have a DNA test done.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: So these people, these private eyes they had, managed to
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: get DNA from a brother who was living in London
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: at the time.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: As well as Ilhan Omar.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: And, you know, like they've got cigarette butts and whatever
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: else to do. It's kind of that grubby business, which
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: is why they hide the private eyes. That came back
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: as a 99.99998% match that showed that, according to the DNA,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Ilhan Omar was a sibling of the man who was
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: her second husband. In other words, the rumours and scurrilous
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: rumours double butt about her marrying her brother, he had
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: to be backed up by this DNA evidence.
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: So about a few hours before.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: I was writing this story in August of 2021, a
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: guy who had gathered the evidence, not the, you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: he was sort of the private eye type guy. He
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: was arrested by the FBI and the website that he'd
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: set up that was supposed to go live was just
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: was shut down.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: And so, you know, we.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Published the story anyway, obviously with less fanfare than we
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: might have if one of.
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: The major sources hadn't just been.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Arrested on separate and grubby child sex charges apparently.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: And he was in jail. So we still published, but
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: the story kind of went nowhere. It was crushed.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: By them journeying up the source. And from my point
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: of view, it didn't really matter how unsavory or not
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: this guy was. The DNA was a legitimate DNA company.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: The DNA evidence showed a match. was a story so
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: uh and then it just all goes dead until now
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: and my colleague josh christensen has a source who says
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: that they have the investigators have dna that shows her
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: to be a match to her brother.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: OK, let's dive into this, Miranda. So because I know
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: that there's been a lot of coverage of this, but
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I think our audience may not know the exact specifics.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to just kind of step you through
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: it a couple of points here in a row. What
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: percentage chance again did you say that the DNA that
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: your source uncovered showed that they were brother and sister?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: It was what percentage again?
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: 99.999998.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: So we've basically.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Gone to six, uh, one, two, three, yeah, six percentage points.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: So it's basically as close as you get.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: That seems pretty, pretty close to a hundred percent. All right.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: So this was a sham marriage. Let's go into the
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: marriage itself now. So the, the reports are that she
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: married this guy who may well have been her brother
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: and Because and I'm not an expert in immigration law.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Some of you have dealt in this. I have watched
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: the television show where the people have to get married
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and that one of them is a foreigner and everything else.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what it's called. My wife watches that thing.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: But you get citizenship over time if you marry someone
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: and they can prove that it's a real marriage. Obviously,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: marrying your brother would be a huge crime under immigration law.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: When did this supposed marriage with this individual who might
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: be her brother occur, and what happened after? How long
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: did they stay married? Where does this guy live now?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: It sounds like you said, at least at this time,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: that he was in London. What do we know about
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: this alleged marriage that she was involved in, and how
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: long ago did it happen?
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Well, so he was her second husband, and they were,
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: let me just see, so.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: So in 2021, his name is Elmi Omar, and they
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: were by that time split. So Elmi Omar, her brother,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: or the man that we're alleging is her brother, he
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: was then living in the UK, and these private eyes
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: got his DNA from a drinking straw. She then subsequently
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: went on to marry one of her campaign donors.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Sorry to cut you off. She's on marriage number three,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: and this was her second husband. It looks like if
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: these allegations are true, this would have been a sham
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: marriage that was designed 100% just to get this guy
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: United States citizenship. Is that a fair characterization as it
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: would appear the investigation would be focused on?
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: So she married him in 2009. She'd separated from her
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: previous husband or divorced him, I guess, the father of
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: her children. And then they divorced or they separated in
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: some sort of a religious ceremony, Muslim ceremony in 2011.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: And then they got legally divorced in 2017.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Okay. Now, this is all happening in.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Minneapolis, you know, in Minnesota, a very democratic state. And
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: the FBI was obviously being prevailed upon by various people
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: to look into these allegations. And there was a recording
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: that this private eye got from one of the FBI agents.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: agents in Minneapolis who said, look, we're not looking at
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: it because it's past the statute of limitations.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: So remember, the marriage was 2009.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: She's we're doing this in 2021. However, I don't think
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: that there is a statute of limitations on immigration fraud.
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: Certainly, it looks as if I don't know exactly.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: We looked it up, Miranda. I believe you're correct. There
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: is no statute of limitations on immigration fraud.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: And, I mean, from what we told from the current
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: investigation there's multiple strands a lot of them are immigration
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: and then you've got Janine Pirro is looking into other
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: financial allegations but on the immigration front you have the
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: brother that's one allegation that she married her brother and
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: then fraudulently you know represented herself as being a legitimate
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: marriage and Then also that when she was naturalized as
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: an American citizen through her father, that could only happen
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: if she was under 18.
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: And so there's.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Another allegation that he said she was 17, but she
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: was really 18, and that she later on prevailed.
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: Upon her staff to get that age changed.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Let me just jump in here, Miranda and Buck. I
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: bet you would co-sign this. To me, if the investigation
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: is focused on the DNA evidence that she married her brother,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: that is an open and shut case that I think
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: for most Americans, if that were in an indictment, people
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: would say, even some Democrats, holy crap, like this is
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: a major, major fraud that would have been perpetrated. Arguing
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: about 17 versus 18 can be a fraud. But the
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: marrying the brother thing is the open and shut case, again,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: with all the DNA evidence. Would you agree with that?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I think Buck probably would co-sign on that, that the
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: holy crap sort of moment would be if in this
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: indictment it says she married her brother in an effort
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: to get him citizenship illegally. I think that would be
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: really hard for Democrats to defend.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Totally agree. You know, you can sort of find sympathy
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: for the 17 years old, 18 years old thing that
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: her father, maybe, you know, she could say, I didn't
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: know my father did it. But there is no way
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: that as an adult woman in 2009, if she did
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: marry her husband, that she isn't absolutely open-eyed about it
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: and has lied about it ever since, if that was
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: the case, if that allegation is true. You know, the
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: really outrageous thing is that why didn't the FBI do
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: their job? Why did it take these Republican businessmen to
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: spend hundreds of thousands of dollars of their own money
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: to track down her brother in the UK, to track down.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: DNA from both of them?
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: And then pay privately a DNA company in the UK
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: to do this test?
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: Why didn't the FBI do it?
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: Why didn't they do their own DNA.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Tests and clear up the cloud that has hung over
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Ilhan Omar's head ever since? She herself could have come
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: forward and said, look, this is a ridiculous story didn't
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: marry my brother. Here's the DNA evidence to show that
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: my ex-husband and I are not related.
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: And that would end it, but she hasn't done that.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: And so, you know, we're all innocent until proven guilty,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: but there's a lot of smoke near this fire.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I wanted to see if you could just, before we close, Miranda,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: give us your thoughts. I'm sure you've seen or heard
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: or both the Alyssa Slotkin, I want to go after
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: people so that they're scared to work in a Trump administration,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: meaning I want the law to be used to terrify
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: my political opponents. You're no stranger to the rough and
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: tumble of politics. You were at the very forefront of
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: pointing out all of the criminality of Hunter Biden and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: all the rest of it. What did you make of
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Alyssa Slotkin? Is this just telling us what all Democrats believe?
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Is there something else to it?
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, she just said out loud what
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: we know they've been doing and they did with all
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: the lawfare and when, you know, Lisa Monaco weaponised the
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Department of Justice under Joe Biden to come after Trump.
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: And all his allies.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: And... I think she's, Lisa Slotkin is from, she's a
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: former CIA analyst, worked under John Brennan.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: She's alert the data.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: We worked in the same office, Miranda. Side note, not
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: all of us were bad. Go ahead.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: You did? You did?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: You worked alongside her.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: You knew her.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't know her, actually. I think we might have
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: been in the conference room together once or twice. She
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: left right around when I joined the Iraq team, but
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Well, you came over to the light side and she
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: went over to the dark.
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: Side, it seems to me.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: And, I mean, you would understand better than most people
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: what you learn in those intelligence agencies about... you know,
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: how to, how to manipulate democracies for good.
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: For America's national security.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: But I think some people like she and John Brennan
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: took the wrong lessons from that. And they are now
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: using those arts against their political opponents. And she is
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: proud of it. And she said this in the university
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: of Chicago last weekend, it's really chilling and, um, Basically,
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: she said she wanted a deterrence message, is how she
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: called it, to young people to dissuade them, to scare
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: them out of wanting to go and work for the
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: Trump administration because she said, we are going to come
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: after not the president because he's got immunity, we'll probably
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: still try, but the people who she calls enabled him.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: So that's the people who work for him, his administration people.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: She's named some of the ones she's She wants to
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: target Doug Burgum, the Interior Secretary, Janine Pirro. She wanted
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: to come after Kristi Noem. She probably wouldn't want to
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: come after Tom Homan, you know, Scott Besant. I mean,
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: this is not normal politics. This is really quite sick
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: and scary, and it's very authoritarian.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Last question for you. Yeah, sorry. Last question for you
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: here as we're coming up on a break, Miranda. I
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: said I think Ilhan Omar is going to be charged
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: based on the fact that this warrant was signed off on.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: You have way more information based on what you have
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: reported and looked into in her past before, too. So
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: two-parter quickly to close. Do you think she'll be charged
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: as well as like me? And what's the time frame
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: to you on when the charging might happen?
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Look, I don't think anything will happen before the midterms.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: I do think that the fact that you've had the warrant,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: the search warrant, signed off by a, you know, Democrat judge,
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: very much, I think, an Obama-appointed judge, there must be
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: good evidence there. to go against the grain. So I
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: don't think that Todd Blanche would go half-cocked into doing
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: something like this so close to the election if they
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: didn't have really good evidence that they were worried would
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: get disappeared if they didn't do the search immediately of
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: her home.
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: Amen.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Miranda Devine, keep up the good work. If you hear
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: any more about this case, we, of course, would love
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: to have you back on. But thank you for the
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: time today.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: Thanks so much. Bye.
• 46:43
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• 48:44
  Speaker 2: here given some of the things we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: audio gem um we are joined now by britney hugo
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  Speaker 2: boom she is the founder of evie magazine which is
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: cosmo for millennials and gen z and people who don't
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: think that we should have 400 pound women with beards
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: in lingerie as our aspiration in the beauty world Good
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: to have you, britney as always thank you so much
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: for joining us um victoria's secret fashion show now look
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: i'm gonna i only read about it clay watched it
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: i only read about it uh so if one of
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: us is gonna have more expert actually no i may
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: have to take that back clay was there a football
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: game on during it because then you probably only call i.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Think there was a football game on during it but
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: i'm gonna out myself before anybody else does britney a
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: few years ago i watched it my wife will attest
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: to this I immediately went to Victoria's Secret and bought
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: her hundreds of dollars in lingerie, including I think I
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: bought wings. I don't know how many women ever want
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: to wear wing lingerie, but I bought it for my wife.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: That's how influenced I was by the Victoria's Secret lingerie
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: spectacular a few years ago.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: But so there we go. So now give us, if
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you would, Brittany, your review of this, because here's the
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: theme for people like, why are we talking about? Well,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: the guys listening are like, yeah, we can talk about
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Victoria's Secret all day. For some of the ladies who
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: are wondering, though, why we're talking about this, there seems
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: to be a return to beauty as the beauty standard
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and Victoria's Secret embracing that generally. Now, I watched some
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: clips of the show on the news, to be honest.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I've seen some of that.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: For research purposes, because you have an obligation on behalf
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: of the show.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: As one does.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: But I also saw a clip where it seemed that
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: there was a transgender person model walking on the catwalk
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: for Victoria's secret. So tell us what happened here. What's
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: going on is beauty back in style. You have the floor.
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no beauty is definitely back and everyone wants a
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: part of it. And I think that's what Victoria's secret
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: is trying to do, but they're not able to fully
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: understand it. I don't know if you saw, they did
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: this whole documentary angels among us where they're trying to
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: scout and cast a model to walk in the show.
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: And they see this really obese girl and the judge
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: is like, oh, this is the girl.
• 51:04
  Speaker 10: She's beautiful. And then the Italian guy next to her
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: is like, oh yeah, she's great. Just like her walk
• 51:09
  Speaker 10: is bad. And it's like, he's Italian.
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: You know what he's thinking, but they have to pretend
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: they're like, oh, her walks bad. It's not because, you know,
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: but the problem that there is, is they use a
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: lot of the icons. Everybody loves, everybody loves Adriana Lima,
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: Candace one pole. Jasmine Tooks, they did reject a couple.
• 51:29
  Speaker 8: They rejected Romy and Lais Ribeiro, which is awful. But
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: at the same time, it's like they, the thing that
• 51:37
  Speaker 8: made Victoria's Secret so effective is that women wanted to
• 51:40
  Speaker 8: be them and men wanted to be with them. And
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: it has to go through the male gaze to an extent.
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: And their problem is because they don't understand that. they
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: can only use the older iconic models, but they cannot
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: discover a young, beautiful woman who they would have discovered
• 51:55
  Speaker 8: back in the day for Victoria's Secret. Like Barbara Palvin
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: was the last one. She was discovered at 18 and
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: she just walked the runway six weeks postpartum.
• 52:02
  Speaker 10: She looked fantastic. I'm a huge fan of her, but it's.
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: Been very interesting. They're trying to get a part of it,
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: but they don't know how to do it. So they're
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: just like resorting to using the same models that they
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: know that people like. And then everyone they add in
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: is like, more plus size or like not not a
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: girl that would have made the cut 10 years ago.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: OK, so I think this is important. Classical standards of
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: beauty exist and have existed for a very long time
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: in both male and male and female form. I mean,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: we can go back to Michelangelo's David and understand why
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: it was considered and why all of the ancient Roman,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: ancient Greek statues typically were of people that looked classically beautiful.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: It matters, I think, that suddenly they started telling us, oh, androgynous, overweight,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: unattractive people are actually who we should aspire to look like.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you remember, Brittany, seeing when, for instance, Nike
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: would have super obese women. and argue, oh, they're great athletes, too.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Why does class? Why do classical standards of beauty matter?
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: And why does it matter culturally in your mind, not
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: only for women, but also for men? As I have
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: said for some time, underwear would be in trouble if
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I was the male underwear model. I'll just put it
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: that way.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's going to be like, I want
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: to look like that fat dad when I put on
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: this underwear. What why does this matter for people out
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: there who say, what is the importance of a story
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: such as this?
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:31
  Speaker 8: Beauty matters. I mean, objective beauty has always mattered. It
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: inspires people. It inspires men to be better. It inspires
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: women to be better. So it's like you go, you
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: look at the beautiful churches and the architecture and everything
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: they did in Italy and people wanted to worship. They
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: love the beauty and kind of the un-uglifying that they
• 53:50
  Speaker 8: did the last 10 years. It's like, you're not inspired by,
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: no offense, McDonald's or whatever. It's just not pretty. And
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: it's like men and women by nature want to be inspired.
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: It's why we love beautiful movies. It's why we love
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: beautiful people. And they still refuse to accept that objective
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: beauty exists.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: To an extent.
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: And so because of it, they just don't know how
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: to cast a beautiful young new model, which is a shame.
• 54:17
  Speaker 10: And it was great seeing all the old icons there,
• 54:19
  Speaker 10: but you know, we, we love beauty.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: I want to be better.
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: And I think that Gen Z is very into beauty
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: much more than millennials, millennials, like more of the relatable
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: than aspirational. Obviously I can't speak to all of them,
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: but in general, um, and now we're kind of going
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: back to this aspirational and Gen Z is like, where's
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: my Adriana Lima? Where's my Megan Fox? Where's my Dowson?
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: You know, they want to see that. And that's why
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: I think Tate McRae is also very big right now.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: And so it's also, it's also interesting.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Uh, I know you did a, uh, you recently interviewed
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Candace Swan poles trainer, uh, And one thing that I
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: know just from living, to be clear, before all the
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: emails come in, I do not pretend that I embody this.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: But for people who are truly making a living off
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: of their appearance, like these Victoria's Secret models, you spoke
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: to Candice Swanpole's trainer, it is a job. And I
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: think that that's also another there's there's a respect to
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: that people sometimes. Yes, you have to be genetically gifted.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: There's no question about that. And so that's just, you know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: God gives different things to different people. But to maintain
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: and to compete at the level of being one of
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: these women who's walking the Victoria's Secret, it is a
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: full time lifestyle job all in for. And if you
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: could speak to that a little bit, what do the
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: trainers say? I mean, I assume it's there's a real
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: regimen involved for Candace Swanpole.
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's the Olympics for supermodels. It was like
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: the biggest event of the year for the most beautiful
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: woman in the world. And a lot of the supermodels
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: were upset with the whole body positivity movement because they
• 55:50
  Speaker 8: were like, you know, I'm eating my egg whites and
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: my kale and my this and my that. And then
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: this girl's eating three slices of pizza and she's on
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: the cover of Sports Illustrated. So a lot of them
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: were pissed off about it, but they're not going to
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: say it because then they're like, oh, boohoo, hot girl.
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: But they train also a totally different way. I have
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: an app, 28 Wellness, and the workouts were designed by
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: the supermodel trainers, which you.
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: Guys can download.
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: There's like a partner sharing thing too, so that men
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: can get on it, women can get on it. It
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: tracks your cycles, but it's workouts around your cycles. But
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: they train a totally different way. They actually aren't working
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: that hard. And Justin too, you know, justingelban.com, you can
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: look them up, but they train to like slim you
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: down without bulking. And it's, It's just totally different. So
• 56:33
  Speaker 8: they're not working that hard. People are like, oh, they
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: have four hours a day to work out and they
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: have the best nutritionists in the world. You don't need
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: to pay a million dollars for someone to tell you
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: to have hard boiled eggs and protein and fruit and vegetables.
• 56:45
  Speaker 8: It's not some mystery that they have. They're very disciplined.
• 56:50
  Speaker 8: And I think discipline is attractive. And you see that
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: with athletes, but nobody complains that like, oh, that athlete's
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: unrealistic because they can run a 440 mile or whatever.
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: And I can't, but with models, people get really upset
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: about it. Like with Barbara Palvin, she's six weeks postpartum.
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: She's not saying anyone has to look like her, but
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: she looks incredible. And it makes women feel bad, which
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: is sad. You know, you should, you should feel happy
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: for her. Even if you don't look like her, I
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: always like gain a ton of weight pregnant wise.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: And it is what it is.
• 57:18
  Speaker 10: I still love that girls lose it, you know?
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: The analogy that I've made is that Victoria's Secret models
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: are like NBA lottery picks. Their bodies are freakish and aspirational.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: And I think the other one you can use is
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: certainly superheroes. I mean, superheroes don't look like most men,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: but men can aspire to in some way be the
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: best version of themselves. Let me ask you this, Brittany.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: You mentioned Sydney Sweeney just a second ago. She was
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: getting ripped to the high heavens for the sexy sports
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: gambling ads that she did. I couldn't get over that
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: when Shane Gillis said women basically dress like whores in
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: the gym now. All these women came out and defended
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: and said it was sexist to criticize women's gym attire,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: but yet they were criticizing Sidney Sweeney for being sexy
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: in an ad. I think I could speak for Buck, too.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: We're pro-sexy, but what is going on in the world?
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: How much of Sidney Sweeney being attacked is just the
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: fact that she's a Republican? And so other people decide
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: they don't like her. And what did you think? I'm
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: sure you've been in the gym quite a bit over
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: the years. What did you think of Shane Gillis's analysis
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: of the outfits that women now wear.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: In the gym?
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: Oh, this is a great question. Taylor Ferber, actually, one
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: of our editors, wrote an amazing piece on this. You
• 58:36
  Speaker 8: should go on EV Magazine dot com and search it
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: where she talks about the hypocrisy about Sidney Sweeney and Shane.
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: I ironically actually haven't been in the gym. I dress
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: in oversized pants and oversized shirts, actually, because I was
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: a martial artist growing up. So I don't even see that.
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: But when I go to Pilates, all the girls like,
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: you know, showing their abs and looking hot. And I
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: don't know, I work out with girls. So it's hard
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: for me to say I haven't even been to a gym.
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: But it is ironic. I feel like she gets a
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: lot of hate, but it's because she caters to the
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: male gaze because she loves men.
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: She's like happier on men. She smiles. It's kind of
• 59:07
  Speaker 10: the same thing that happened to Indy.
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: People love a girl. They're like, she's amazing. Her profile
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: is incredible. And then all of a sudden she starts
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: liking men and goofing around with men. All of a
• 59:17
  Speaker 8: sudden it's like, oh, no, no, no, we don't like her.
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: She's on a girl's girl. Like she's for the guys.
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: So it's just kind of the differentiating there that gets
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: the women mad.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it certainly seems to be the case too, Clay,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: that there are a lot of women weighing in on
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: this who I certainly don't think dress that way at
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: the gym, and that's for the benefit of all.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Again, my take on this would just be if you
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: want to dress sexy at the gym, that's your right.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: But then and maybe this is the question, Brittany, if
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: you dress sexy, men are going to notice. And I
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: think there's a lot of men who are just out
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: there saying, if you're going to be in booty shorts
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: and a sports bra, I'm going to notice you when
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: I'm taking breaks between my sets in the gym. That's
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: not harassive behavior. Certainly, I don't need to be in
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: the background of your video being called out. And if
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: women are going to take these videos not wearing many
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: clothes and post them on the Internet, as many of
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: these fitness influencers do, do they not think that men
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: are watching them on the Internet? I don't understand how
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: you can be upset men see you in real life,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: but you're totally fine with men watching you on the Internet.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: It seems like, I know Buck has pointed this out,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: that maybe some of these women are not being that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: consistent in their criticisms.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 8: It's funny you say that because I hadn't even heard
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: Shane's comments. And all of a sudden, I just kept
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 8: seeing girls post their butt on the internet. And they
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: were like, take that, Shane. And I was like, I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: feel like it became an excuse for girls to just
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: post photos of their butt and be like, look how
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: good I look.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 10: And it's like, you know, you look great.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: I would also point out, Brittany, that... good i'm sure
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: shane gillis was mortified that women were tagging him with
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: their ass pics talking about how that he should take
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: that um it's one of the funniest protests i've ever
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: seen yeah they.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Taught him a lesson yeah i'll never forget.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: If you want to get hot photos of women just
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: tell them that they dress you know horribly and you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: know like and i.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Guess whorishly um Tell me this, Brittany. What's next? What's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: next in Evie magazine? What are some things, you know,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: where we have some some lots of ladies listening, lots
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: of lots of beautiful moms, beautiful moms listen to this show.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: So they're going to subscribe to Evie. What's coming up?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we actually we have a great print issue coming
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: up for you guys. Go to Evie print dot com.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 8: Get the other issues before they sell out. Um, but yeah,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: we have a really good issue coming soon for you guys.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: And we've started doing a little bit more on YouTube.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 8: So if there are any guests you guys want to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 8: see on EB, let me know.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I want you to do, I said this before, um,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: an SEC tailgate edition, which I think would kill. Um,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: and also people are going to get upset with me
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: for saying this, but if you have not been to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: 30 a, uh, which is the best beaches in America
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: on the, uh, Gulf of America, uh, I would bet, Brittany,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: that there is no place in America that over-indexes for
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: your audience more than the people.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Who go to RDA.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I also think EV Magazine could do a whole expose
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: on the underappreciated dad bod and how dad bods are
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: really what all the hot moms want, you know, because
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: they want a dad. So the dad bob. There you go.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Just throwing that out.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: Just an idea.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just putting that forward for you. Do with that
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: what you will. And give Gabriel our regards, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Brittany Hugo Boom, always good to see you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, great to see you guys.
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