Latest / The Avid Indoorsmen / A.I. EP. 218: “Who’s The Wild Man Now?!” - Rudy 30th Anniversary
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- 0:00Dead Baden. The sun is shining, not a cloud in the sky.
- 0:05We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside. Some people boo boot on some
- 0:12skis, but we would rather sit on down and talk some movies. We're
- 0:17the avid indoorsmen, gun, listen to our show. We're the avid indoorsmen
- 0:24at home on the go. We're the avid indoorsman. We hope you so
- 0:31come on in and stay. We'll do our best to make you smile.
- 0:35We're indoorsmen. What is happening? I'm Rob Lundquist and I'm beat, and
- 0:45we are the ab An Indorsement. How are everyone? Hello? How are
- 0:50you sir? Yeah, I'm doing great, pal, How are you?
- 0:54I am so good. I'm so pumped to talk about this movie. Yes,
- 1:00it's just it's getting me a little ready for football. I know.
- 1:03I love it. Between watching like quarterback and just seeing all these like preseason
- 1:10things, I am pumped. I'm ready for some football, dude. So
- 1:14many chats about when we're gonna draft. I'm ready. I'm ready to dude.
- 1:19It's so great. Yes, I love it. Yeah, I'm with
- 1:22you. Super excited and also frankly excited for the autumn weather. Because it's
- 1:27been hot. It has been real hot, no joke. It's been don't
- 1:33leave the house hot for me. So the last two days for me as
- 1:36well. Here I am. If I'm glistening a little bit during this,
- 1:40bear with me. You know, I don't know what's I'm fitzing dolling I
- 1:46but yeah, I'm also super stoked, buddy, It's gonna be It's gonna
- 1:49be super fun. But before we get into all that, what was the
- 1:52last movie you watched? So I watched a movie I've been meaning to see
- 1:56for quite some time, and I watch Ghosted on Apple TV Plus. Did
- 2:00you ever watch a ghost dude? I didn't. It was one of those
- 2:04ones where I downloaded it and then it expired and I didn't never watched it,
- 2:08and it didn't get like great reviews. I don't get bad reviews,
- 2:12even which I think we had the trick where low expectations. I thought it
- 2:16was pretty fun. I had a nice time with it. I mean,
- 2:20obviously, like the chemistry between the two folks Chris Evans and Anadarmus is lovely.
- 2:27Yeah, they've already been in knives out together. Yeah, so fun,
- 2:31and they're both so great individually. And they're still really fun this way,
- 2:36and it was kind of a flipped story a little bit because she's like
- 2:39the badass and he's, you know, the normal person and all that.
- 2:43So that was kind of even seen him do that in a long time.
- 2:46I was excited to see it and then just didn't watch it. It's fun.
- 2:49I think you'll like it. It'll be a good like plane movie and
- 2:52all that good stuff. Cool, but yeah, and it's got some great
- 2:55action in it too, because they're both pretty bona fide actions stars at this
- 3:00point, which is great. And then just like the cameos you'll see in
- 3:06this or like just the smaller parts in the cast or are super wild and
- 3:09crazy so nice, you're really gonna like it. I think that is gonna
- 3:15make me actually watch it, because I hadn't heard anybody talk about it and
- 3:19cool. Yeah, I had a really nice time. I thought it was
- 3:22a great mix of rom com slash action film, which is basically I think
- 3:27what it it's self advertised as, so like, you know, don't go
- 3:30and expecting anything super wide and crazy, but you won't have a bad time.
- 3:36Cool. Yeah, yeah, how about you. What have you been
- 3:38watching? I watched over on Netflix a pretty crazy movie. It's called They
- 3:46Cloned Tyrone. Okay, I didn't even know if that I remember heard of
- 3:52this. So this is the sci fi thriller comedy with John Boyega, Jamie
- 3:59Foxx, and Tayona Paris who we know as Monica Rambo in Juan Division in
- 4:06the upcoming Marvels movie. But dude, it's getting or at least when I
- 4:11wrote this, it's getting a ninety four percent from critics and one hundred percent
- 4:15from audience. Dang, So people are enjoying it. And I don't really
- 4:19want to get too far into the plot because it was kind of fun going
- 4:24into it cold fun like if the if the title sounds interesting, then yeah,
- 4:31I would check it out. It had kind of the same vibe as
- 4:36that la Keith Stanfield movie a few years back, Sorry to Bother You,
- 4:41where there's like some crazy like conspiracies going on. But yeah, it is
- 4:48out there, very different, but it was fun. Man. It was
- 4:53a quick watch. It was a really great playing movie for me to watch
- 4:58that I ended up really enjoying it. Very cool. Nice. I'm I
- 5:01had I haven't had Netflix for the summer, so I'm excited to get back
- 5:05into it get inch up on some things. That's great. Yeah, there's
- 5:09lots of good stuff on Netflix. Loving it. Speaking of Netflix, have
- 5:14you been streaming anything on the other platforms? I have? Yeah, I
- 5:16went to Max recently and yes, like you said, we're really getting into
- 5:21the footballs. So I was going to talk about this too. Oh really,
- 5:25the Hard Knocks, Hard Knocks, Hard Knocks, the Jet season.
- 5:29I actually just watched right before we started here, the third episode, so
- 5:33I finished. Nice, we're all caught up. I love Hard Knocks,
- 5:39dude. I think it's so much fun if you're a football fan. It's
- 5:42just a lovely little treat to to kind of see how these folks live and
- 5:46you know, the crazy work that they put in and all that. I
- 5:48think it's great. I really like it a lot. I agree with you,
- 5:51man, And I haven't watched the other seasons, partly just because it's
- 5:56like, well, it's another team and I don't care about these other teams.
- 6:00But I've seen so many clips from previous seasons. I felt like I
- 6:04always got like the headlines anyway of the big things that happen. But dude,
- 6:10it's super impressive and it's it's hard to not get hyped for the football
- 6:14season. Yes, and it's just it's really makes Aaron Rodgers looks great.
- 6:19He's looking like he's just like saving that team and it seems great. I
- 6:27mean, I don't know that he's not, but I just you know,
- 6:30he's a packer, so we're pretty controversial guy though, and he seems like
- 6:33just yeah, go with the flow kind of guy. And I don't know
- 6:39that he is that, but that's how he is being agreed agreed. But
- 6:44it's really impressive, just like all the different storylines that they're able to go
- 6:48through and just it gets kind of dramatic. Man. Yeah. Yeah,
- 6:51it's dramatic. It's fun, it's badass, and I hate that. I
- 6:56kind of like the Jets now, like I'm like, why say that.
- 7:00Am I going to be for me rooting for these guys? Yeah? Yeah,
- 7:02but now they have Dalvin, so I know, yeah, I'll be
- 7:08I'll be rooting for him always. It's bitter sweet to see him on there.
- 7:12Yeah, that's good for him. But Bomber Yeah yeah. The one
- 7:16thing I will say is I heard and I don't know if this is true,
- 7:19but I heard it that because the Jets didn't really want to be on
- 7:24Hard Knocks this year. They had to, they kind of were forced to,
- 7:28and they said that they weren't going to show the cuts this year,
- 7:31which is usually such a big part of that show. But I don't know.
- 7:35So far, it seems like the normal show, So I don't maybe
- 7:40that was much much ado about nothing. I haven't shown any cuts yet.
- 7:43They've talked about people that need to until the end. Yeah, well people
- 7:48have been caught by now. Yeah, you're right, You're right. So
- 7:51I guess it is different. But I haven't missed it in the way I
- 7:55thought I would, So maybe that's a good sign. I guess. I
- 7:58don't know. Or maybe they made it more about Aaron then, because he's
- 8:01been featured a lot obviously, so a lot. Maybe they went that way
- 8:05and then like the the lesser known dudes or whatever. I realized I just
- 8:13read of things. That's a uh And we're kind of going in the weeds
- 8:16here. But Corey Davis, the Jets receiver, sounds like he's just stepping
- 8:20away and they haven't talked they haven't interviewed him, they haven't talked about Maybe
- 8:26was he injured too. I mean, I know he's he's had a rough
- 8:28go I think in general, yeah huh, but yeah I saw that just
- 8:33today. I think that he was were stepping away or whatever. Yeah right,
- 8:37crazy interesting stuff, crazy, but yeah, really fun and I'll get
- 8:41here in the football mood if you're ready, Yeah, big ten. Nice.
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- 9:41of every episode we put out. We do a podcast and chill version,
- 9:46we'd like to call it. We do a top five draft that pertains to
- 9:50the movie we're talking about. And for this one, it's going to be
- 9:52a fun one, our top five favorite football films. Love it. It'll
- 10:00be fun, buddy, this will be a good time. I like it
- 10:03nice, excited for that. Also, stay tuned coming attraction. We're going
- 10:07to talk about a great film School of Rock. Next, guys, it's
- 10:11gonna be a blast, and we're gonna have some great guest or guests on.
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- 10:20be fun. It's gonna be a blast. I'm excited for that one,
- 10:22dude, So excited. That's gonna be so much fun. Can't wait.
- 10:28But today is also going to be a ton of fun, buddy, as
- 10:31we celebrate what is the number anniversary, thirtieth anniversary of a little film called
- 10:37Rudy. Ever heard of any Rudy? Ruddy? Yeah, super fun,
- 10:46And we decided we had to get a fellow of football enthusiast here with us.
- 10:50A guy we know and love, a man who has defied all the
- 10:54odds as he went through life and got he got onto Notre Dame himself.
- 10:58I bet you guys didn't know that about I played football with him even yeah
- 11:01right, Rob also went to Notre Dame with him. Did everybody knows that
- 11:05I was the guy yelling Rudy? He was? He was the guy.
- 11:09He was the guy. I was the one in the stance that was like,
- 11:11he's a little but anyway, all this silliness to say, it's gonna
- 11:18be a silly episode. Please welcome back Benny Ellen. What's up, Benny?
- 11:24What's up? Gentleman's good to see me. It's so good to be
- 11:30back. It's always good to be back. It is. I just got
- 11:33to see Benny in person, in me and Roberto in the big n Why.
- 11:41I don't think I told you bugs, But he took me on a
- 11:43little food tour of mid two I did. We went to three different spots.
- 11:50What'd you get? We started Glasshouse Tavern, which was right next to
- 11:56where I did waitress and uh oh, I don't love most of their food,
- 12:01but they have this one appetizer. It's uh uh truffle risotto balls.
- 12:07Oh yeah, with like a dill garlic aoli. Okay, they are yummy.
- 12:18I love that trendle anything. I'm there, Yeah, I know,
- 12:22and I know truffle is a little you know, controversial in some circles,
- 12:26but it's it's pretty it's pretty subtle in those I feel like, oh,
- 12:31that's so good. Then we popped over to a place called Impanada Mama that
- 12:37just has like thirty different kinds of empanadas. And when we popped over to
- 12:48one of my favorite ramen places called I Puto not for ramen though, they
- 12:54just have an incredible appetizer menu. And we had some some of their fried
- 13:00chicken, some of their chicken and shrimp buns, and and they do they
- 13:07do a tuna a spicy tuna roll, but then they but they don't put
- 13:13it on this side. They put them all in their faces and then they
- 13:16just dumped like a huge thing of tuna tartar basically over the top of it.
- 13:20It was so good and it was that's fun. It's not not hungry
- 13:26after that, no, quite full. So it was great. But Robbie
- 13:31also took us to see Uh good Night Oscar, starring the Minister Sean Hayes
- 13:37and it was but it was good. It was so good. I mean,
- 13:45man, it was I mean well, I mean as well deserved of
- 13:50a tony as I've ever seen. So that's awesome. It was. It
- 13:54was wild. It was really cool. And one of his coast is in
- 14:00Reality was in the Shoes That's right, which was pretty cool, said that,
- 14:07Marshaun Davis. And he was so good in Reality. Yeah, I
- 14:11watched it. I don't think I've talked to you since I watched it.
- 14:13It's so fun. What a great movie. Really good, I mean yeah,
- 14:18such a cool idea too, like the spin they took on it was
- 14:22really interesting. I loved everything about it. That was really great. All
- 14:24your listeners, if you haven't seen it, check out Reality on Max and
- 14:31Benny is killing it in it, and it was really well done. It's
- 14:35getting like over ninety percent on rod Tomatoes. Is that right? Wow?
- 14:39Yeah? I never even looked over. And usually we do plugs here,
- 14:43but Benny just wants us to plug this seg after a strike. Let's help
- 14:48them get what they deserve. Yeah. You probably can't really help, I
- 14:50guess, but support, Yeah, well we can we can support some way.
- 14:56Yea hopefully got nothing. No, no, no on screen acting for
- 15:03anyone currently. Yeah. Well I have been auditioning for theater things, but
- 15:09to uh to zero avail. So I'm sure everyone is doing that right now.
- 15:16Probably, I would think the whole point acting community is doing that,
- 15:20and probably commercials right, Yes, commercials are cool. Yes, I have
- 15:26audition. I did just have a sweet audition for a football commercial and I
- 15:31didn't get it. But I was going to actually ask about that, and
- 15:37maybe this is an off air thing, but Leev Schreiber is the narrator for
- 15:41hards. Can he do that? Yeah, So here's the thing, anyone,
- 15:48you you can still do stuff, but they have to they have to
- 15:54get a waiver from a SAG afterra. But but all all that means is
- 15:58like they're a bunch of indie films shooting right now, and and obviously like
- 16:03Leaves Shriber's thing, but you know what all that means is that they are
- 16:07adhering to the things that SAgs trying to get in the strike. Because that's
- 16:12why like A twenty four has been able to do whatever they want, right
- 16:15because they were like they're a stand up production company and they're like, of
- 16:19course we want everyone to have. You know, they probably yeah, they
- 16:23probably didn't have this problem to begin with. You know, they just like,
- 16:26of course we're praying our people. We were already doing that or whatever.
- 16:30Yeah, probably it's different. You know, it's different when it's a
- 16:33movie. It's not really a streaming thing. But I didn't know if this
- 16:38it was more like in the sports Lane too. I didn't know if it
- 16:41would be a thing either, but you know, it might, it might
- 16:45be, Honestly, I guess I don't know. I yeah, I would
- 16:48assume if anything, they're just adhering. They got a waiver and they're just
- 16:52they're doing whatever they need. But it is voiceover, which is a little
- 16:56different, Like I'm able to do commercials. So yeah, you know,
- 17:02I think he also showed up. I feel like I read that I haven't
- 17:04watched. I haven't watched the first episode. Did you watch it run?
- 17:08Yep? Yep? And he did show up at practice. It was kind
- 17:11of fun. Yeah, that's neat, that's yeah, that's super cool.
- 17:15It is Also it's a good hardenes. Is there gonna be a lot of
- 17:19like reality TV shows that are going to come out now? Because is that
- 17:22a different thing. I don't know. Yes, that is a different thing,
- 17:26but I think they have writers and stuff, so they do, they
- 17:30do, but I don't think they need them probably as much, right sure,
- 17:34you know, I think they can just sort of interesting. Yeah,
- 17:41And you know what I would like is if Disney would give up the like
- 17:44half a percent of their profits every year and just pay people. That'd be
- 17:47cool because if they do what, everyone will do it. I mean,
- 17:51look, it's like, I don't think it's even half a percent. I
- 17:55think I read something the other day it was like point zero one, two
- 17:57three percent or something would meet the requests of the union for their projects,
- 18:03which is a ton of money, of course. And look, I can't
- 18:06I can't even I mean, I can't even speak to all the numbers per
- 18:10se, you know, but clearly these are publicly traded companies that do well.
- 18:15And I know it's I know it's not always exactly on paper what it
- 18:21is, you know, money wise, and I know there's more to it
- 18:25than that, but I mean, I don't think everyone's asking for all that
- 18:30much either, so and you know, you know, it just hasn't even
- 18:34seemed like Nico, we're going to talk about football this since we're gonna talk
- 18:37about football this evening. I'll just transition with you know, like Peyton,
- 18:41Peyton Manning was someone who always, you know, everyone talks about Tom Brady
- 18:45always took good deals for the Patriots, and you know, Peyton Manning was
- 18:48always someone who was like, no, I want to get paid when I
- 18:52want to pay like you. You guys are responsible to for the salary cap
- 18:57and to make sure everyone else gets what they need, Like I'm getting what
- 19:00I need. You know, like these these these streamers and these big companies.
- 19:07I'm you know, in my mind, I'm like you, you need
- 19:10to figure out how to monetize this amount of streams and views that's not on
- 19:15us. We need to get paid fairly for what's going on. You need
- 19:21to figure out how how you know you're making money off it. But you
- 19:26know, when you have this many eyes on it, it's just it's silly,
- 19:30you know. So whatever, this is boring for everyone, Let's transition
- 19:37to football. One of the greatest football films of all time, Take it
- 19:44away. Let's do it. Take it away, gentleman. Well, before
- 19:51we get to that that hot, that hot take, let's have a little
- 19:53spicy little synopsis here huh rob okay at you. Rudy Rudiger want to play
- 20:00football at the University of Notre Dame, but has neither the money for tuition
- 20:03nor the grades to qualify for a scholarship. Rudy redoubles his efforts to get
- 20:08out of the steel mill where his father works when his best friend dies in
- 20:12an accident there. Overcoming his dyslexia thanks to his friend and tutor d Bob,
- 20:18Rudy gains admission to Notre Dame and begins to fight his way under the
- 20:22school's fabled football team. Nice nice, very nice. Love that. Let's
- 20:30go to Rotten Tomadels and hear what they have to say. Critics have it
- 20:33coming in not an awesome but fairly good seventy eight percent. Oh, I
- 20:38kind of expected higher, if I'm super honest. Audiences though, have it
- 20:45at nineties, so that is much more in line with what I sort of
- 20:48assumed. So absolute audience members smarter than critics. Once again, i'd always
- 20:53unless unless I don't agree with that. I don't know what critics could possibly
- 20:59have to say ill about this movie. Honestly, well, yeah, yeah,
- 21:03I hear you. Uh, Well, let's go and we can talk
- 21:07about what we think. Now let's do our hot takes. Oh that's a
- 21:17hot take. That's a hot take. That was me getting burned. Favorite
- 21:22part of the podcast. Look, I don't have anywhere to ask, I
- 21:25don't have anywhere to act. So I need this. I need this again,
- 21:30a little less up top and then a little more at the end that
- 21:33I don't know. You know what I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna tell you
- 21:36like I tell most directors. I think I got it. Let's move on.
- 21:41I think we got it. That's fair. I think we got it.
- 21:44I think we can any one take. The ladies call me that,
- 21:48and the directors that's why they call moving on. Moving on. Hot take
- 21:56for this film. This is the first time I've ever seen this movie,
- 22:00So let's get that, which is weird. I don't know why. I
- 22:04don't know how. I love football, both to watch and to play.
- 22:10It was my favorite sport to play back in the day. Uh, and
- 22:14it's just super fun. And this movie is a delight. I actually thought
- 22:18I was, and it was kind of pleasantly actually, but I thought it
- 22:22was going to be more about his time playing than it was. But honestly,
- 22:26like The Runway to that is the bulk of the film, almost as
- 22:30like, which is super great. It's super good drama that's happening. Of
- 22:34course, we all know mister Aston. I love him dearly because he's sam
- 22:40wise, so he can do no wrong in my eyes anyway. But just
- 22:44a phenomenal movie, tons of really interesting and fun parts. Maybe a little
- 22:49melodramatic at times, but honestly, football is melodramatic at times, so like
- 22:53it kind of made sense to me. Uh yeah, everything about it was
- 22:57super fun. There was a ton of references I never knew were from this.
- 23:02Rob even sent me the one of the guy clapping the gift and I
- 23:07was like, oh, I didn't know that was from this, And that
- 23:10was such a lovely moment to get to see that, and just like the
- 23:14speeches, and you know, Rudy is such an integral part of football culture.
- 23:18I feel like, even now, so super super fun to watch this
- 23:22and get to relive all that. And yeah, I just thought it was
- 23:26super super well made. It's very emotionally lovely, which we'll talk about more
- 23:30later, I'm sure, but I really love this movie and I think I'll
- 23:34watch it a number of times as the future comes along, because it's it's
- 23:40really great. But my hottest take is his name isn't even Rudy, Like,
- 23:45what are we doing? And it's no wonder. He's not good at
- 23:48football. People who go by nicknames their whole lives are absolute losers. So
- 23:53I get it. Good, that's fun. That's a fun one, buddy.
- 24:02That's good, very good, very very good one. Buddy. How
- 24:10did you so you recognize that music right? That iconic score? Yes?
- 24:17Because that and I was like, wow, I've heard some thousand times ever
- 24:22from this movie. Crazy Yeah, so hot takes here. Such a great
- 24:26sports movie. It was directed by David Antspa, who has given us two
- 24:32amazing sports dramas in Rudy and Hoosiers. Another one I haven't seen. It's
- 24:40so good. It's like the I hate this Antspa guy. So to be
- 24:44honest, if you've seen, if you've seen Hoosiers, like, I mean,
- 24:48you know you know right away is the same director, I mean,
- 24:51right and fast crossover. Sure it is actually the same writer, so angelo
- 25:00it so right and he seems to only do based on true story sports films.
- 25:04Sure, it's Coozier's Rudy, the Game of their lives, Mile American
- 25:10and bleed for this. That's all he has for his filmography. Well,
- 25:14I mean that's a lot. He does a movie like every like, Yeah,
- 25:18that's why something. He found his niche and does it very well.
- 25:22Yeah. The score is iconic. Uh, it just gets you so amped
- 25:26up and you've heard it a million times. But if you want to go
- 25:30and see a crazy career, go look up Jerry Goldsmith. Oh my god,
- 25:33he's composed like two hundred and fifty films. It's he did like fives.
- 25:38He's literally he's like a he's like a John Williams, Alan Silvestry,
- 25:42Hans Zimmer kind of guy. He's just in Sanity's bananas. But this film
- 25:48is so much fun. It launched Jon Favreau and Vince Vaughn. They look
- 25:52like babies in this movie. That was really fun. But this is,
- 25:56yeah, just an incredible story, very motivated guy who knew where his life
- 26:00was headed if he didn't go after his lifelong dream and he listened to people
- 26:06tell him his dreams weren't attainable for his whole life and decided to go for
- 26:11them anyway. It's very inspiring. I will say, hot take, it's
- 26:18probably twenty minutes too long. I feel like they could have probably taken out
- 26:23all of that like booster nonsense, since they didn't really go anywhere with the
- 26:30love story. He didn't pay off yeah story, I mean, I think
- 26:37that's where we were going, don't It does feel like they started and then
- 26:41they were like, we don't need a love story, which I don't think
- 26:44they did right. But if that is the case, I really think that
- 26:48whole booster stuff was just I totally agree, and I always agree with getting
- 26:52rid of ten or fifteen minutes if possible. I do think I do think
- 26:56it was nice to have yet even one more person who kind of, you
- 27:00know, shut him down a little on the way, because you know,
- 27:06he gets a little he gets a little redemption even with her, Remember on
- 27:08the sidelines at practice, he's Remember I thought that they were going to pay
- 27:15that off at the very end, and it was gonna be like a he
- 27:18had focused on this singularly his whole life, so once he did it,
- 27:23I thought he was gonna then be like, as a sort of I'm moving
- 27:26on to the next phase. Was gonna go like see her and talk to
- 27:30her or something. I'm just kind of what I thought. I'm not gonna
- 27:33lie though I am. I'm actually very with rob I don't mind it in
- 27:37the movie. But yeah, so often in these sports movies they try to
- 27:41shoot hoorn in sort of the love stories a good point, or even or
- 27:45even their love interest or even their wife. I mean, look, women
- 27:48have been getting shafted in movies for years with crappy, crappy parts. And
- 27:56you know, I'm glad in this movie they just left it at that and
- 28:00didn't try to throw in this extra storyline of a girl, you know,
- 28:04because it was I just because his love affair is with what he's trying to
- 28:10do, you know, he's he's so singularly focused on on on his goal
- 28:15and his dreams, and I'm just I feel like a girl would have always
- 28:19felt like an afterthought to him. I mean, his girl is an afterthought.
- 28:23He leaves her and you know at home, right, you know,
- 28:27so I don't think I would have even say agree, I wouldn't have even
- 28:30bought him getting derailed because of a girl. Right, So to that end,
- 28:36I agree with Robbie. I think all it gives it all, It
- 28:38gives us his one more one more little should showed I showed another person that
- 28:45you know, he didn't believe in me, right, So yeah, yea,
- 28:52we jumped up. Don't be sorry. That's that's all I got though,
- 28:55Benny, what's hot? What do you think about this film? I
- 28:57mean, I it's been one of my favorite movies forever. I do think
- 29:03it's one of the best, certainly one of the best football movies. Definitely
- 29:07one of the best sports movies. I know they did they did a Sports
- 29:12Illustrated or someone did a top twenty sports movies a couple of years ago,
- 29:18like a big publication. I should have looked it up, and Rudy was
- 29:22not on it, not in the not in their top and number one was
- 29:27Bull Durham, And like, look, I love Bull Durham, you know,
- 29:33but I'm just like this movie. I just think it's so wonderful.
- 29:41It's a great period movie. I also think I also think football, football
- 29:45in general, lends itself to great movies because football is inherent inherently dramatic.
- 29:52I mean, each play is gives you like an arc of a story.
- 29:57I mean, football is perfect for movies. Probably can have that like set
- 30:02up. Yeah, I mean, they in my mind more so than any
- 30:06other sport because you know, if you look at one play. It's like
- 30:08we have this quiet moment and then we get the play and it builds and
- 30:12builds and builds, and then so I just think, already football is a
- 30:19great thing, but I you already said it bugs. This movie is almost
- 30:25not even I mean, it is a football movie, but football is is
- 30:29sort of just the catalyst for yeah, you know, just it's about it's
- 30:33about never letting go of what you believe you can do. I mean,
- 30:37which I know sounds cheesy, but it's so great to watch this kid desperately
- 30:45do this thing that literally no one believes he can do. Yeah, and
- 30:49part of it's just part of it's just going to school there, you know,
- 30:53even just the devitual going to school there, and you get it from
- 30:56his dad and everyone. And so to your point, I think it's it's
- 31:00a great just movie about human resilience and triumph as much as football, and
- 31:07I mean football again, and just like, don't let anybody else tell you,
- 31:11of course your goal should be you know what I mean, don't let
- 31:14where you're from dictate what you should do or your background. Yea, it's
- 31:18just it's just wonderful. It's like the ultimate you know, I just loved
- 31:25the comparison of the guy who was doing what he wanted to do but was
- 31:29like this is and I hate it and him who, because that happens so
- 31:33much in life, where he's like, I mean, the guy who's who's
- 31:36on scholarship because his dad went dad. Yeah he's the of course, forget
- 31:38what the character's name is, but he's his dad was paying for his tuition.
- 31:44He's a legacy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just that
- 31:48that idea, because that happens so much. Right, We get a gig
- 31:51and we're like, damn, but I want this other gig, and it's
- 31:53like someone else would kill to do this that, you know. But it's
- 31:57a great point of it's a great point of even Rudy's different than him of
- 32:00just like even he he says, he has scholarships to two big ten schools
- 32:05and he still doesn't have the guts to tell his dad, you know,
- 32:08what he wants to do, and he's just there just for whatever. And
- 32:14Rudy's the complete opposite. I mean, he's yeah, you know so,
- 32:19and he makes it happen. So yeah, however he has to do it.
- 32:22Yeah, I mean I don't, you know, I don't really have
- 32:23a hot take. We've said all the kind of the things, but it's
- 32:27just a great anything. It's not even he had the nickname. It's crazy
- 32:31about that he has a nickname. His name is Daniel everyone, Daniel everyone.
- 32:37I swear to you, I never knew that. How nicknames is a
- 32:40big thing in sports. You know, that is true. Like, if
- 32:45there's even an inkling of one, you're getting one, you know. Yeah.
- 32:50One of our coaches called Robbie Lundy d he No, he called me
- 32:57Lenny name in linn Wiz. I was like, hey, it's one quiz.
- 33:01He was one. He was one vowel off rob but he had already
- 33:06gotten Lenny in his head, so he just called me Lennyn. Dude,
- 33:12it's not even that. Uh. It was back in ninth grade, right,
- 33:19yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't Mark, Mark, I could
- 33:22not tell you. You could say it. I'd be like maybe Lenny,
- 33:25sure, but yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Look, Pugs,
- 33:31it could have been a lot worse for you, I'm sure, so just
- 33:34be fateful. That's just let's just at least everyone assumes my nickname is Pubes
- 33:42anyway, so it should have been worse. Pubes, did you say,
- 33:46yeah, that has happened a number of times in my life. Cubes.
- 33:53Oh god, I'm almost like, yeah, you know, other man,
- 33:58pugs, you know better than like, hey, fatty mcfat fat, let's
- 34:01go, I got that too. Ill. Sure, but that's sure,
- 34:05but at least at least use the one that's stuck. That's true that we
- 34:09never call you fatty mcfat fat to your face, So you should be happy.
- 34:14I appreciate that. I appreciate that that is what you're in my phone
- 34:16as those actually, no, you're in my phone is as never end impossible.
- 34:22Yeah, oh yeah, dude, I earned that one. That waitress
- 34:31at All was like, is he running a five k tomorrow or something?
- 34:34I'm like, no, he's not back and forth with the toilet. He
- 34:38certainly is not. Yeah, a lot of dairy base there. Do any
- 34:45of us look like we've run a five kve total in our lives? I
- 34:50don't apple think so. No, No, cool, more bread sticks though,
- 34:54thank you? Yeah, keep them coming. So the sad though,
- 34:59Yeah, yeah, I know you keep that. I think you guys we
- 35:02should we should go and talk about our favorite acting performance and let's oh the
- 35:07dude, the dude, I'm the dude. So that's what you call me,
- 35:13you know that, or his dudeness or duder or you know, eldudino
- 35:20if you're not into the whole brevity thing. I forgot we were recording,
- 35:22Benny, what do you what do you got for your favorite acting performance?
- 35:28M I guess I'll go tough one. I guess I'll go Sean Aston,
- 35:34Sean Aston, I get that. I mean, look, this we should
- 35:39almost just skip this category because this is one of the greatest Tucci movies of
- 35:44all time. Yeah, I mean this is the tucciest of the Tucci movies
- 35:49that's ever existed. I mean, clearly it's shawna. I mean he's literally
- 35:52in every frame of the movie. Yep. I mean they never they they
- 35:58literally never. We we are through his eyes start to finish, correct,
- 36:04Am I correct? Am? I right? I think so? Yeah,
- 36:06Like we don't have one I mean other okay, other than like the individuals
- 36:09showing up at the stadium right at the end, which is to see him.
- 36:13Yeah, the players going into the office. And yes, that's true,
- 36:17that's true, but true. I mean, you know, he's the
- 36:22definition of carrying a movie. I mean, he's just and he's just dude,
- 36:28Sean Aston. I mean you've already mentioned Sam Wise. I'm a firm
- 36:32believer that both Sean Aston and Ian McKellen should have been nominated for Oscars for
- 36:38Return of the King wildly snubbed in my opinion. But Sean Ast he getting
- 36:46nominated for this? No or no? I mean between this when you think
- 36:52of this and like Sam Wise, I mean, God, he emotes on
- 36:58screen so well yeah, I mean we'll talk about it later about the bench
- 37:02scene. I'm just he's just so heartbreaking. Yeah, Like God, he
- 37:08just destroys me. And I mean obviously as Sam Wise, I mean,
- 37:13how many freaking times in that trilogy does he just destroy you? Yeah?
- 37:17I wonder if he even needed to audition for that. I feel like Peter
- 37:22Jackson, just like I watched Rudy, I'm sure like the most noble character.
- 37:28I wouldn't doubt that for a second. Yeah, yeah, he's honestly
- 37:30watched someone. I mean, I guess I shouldn't say a bigger star,
- 37:36you know, I just he's just very talented. Yeah, and so clearly
- 37:40it's Sean Aston. I don't think there's really anything to even talk about,
- 37:44honestly, yep, yep, very believable. Uh and and really not a
- 37:49very believable character for being like, you know, like this guy is so
- 37:53pure of heart and so determined, right Like it felt, you know,
- 37:59it have been way more over the top, and I felt like he was
- 38:01able to keep it grounded and it was actually kind of believable, right.
- 38:06I do wonder is there one of those like a movie turned into a horror
- 38:10film kind of trailer videos out there for Rudy because he's so single minded?
- 38:16True, I bet you could make a really good one where he's like,
- 38:20I'm gonna do it no matter what, you know, like nice, it's
- 38:24true. I think that'd be interesting. Uh. Yeah, he's amazing,
- 38:31he's great. He's got an asked and a talent. I don't know what
- 38:35you want for me. I mean you bet you're asked, you bet you're
- 38:38asked and he does. Yeah, it is honestly, we should just we
- 38:43should just get to Tucci. This is the this is the real conversation.
- 38:51Yeah, and it's a tough one. Who you got for this, Ben?
- 38:54I mean, let's just pop down this list. John John Favre,
- 39:00who is has become? Who is ned Baty? Yep? Crazy? Who
- 39:06I believe one An Oscar for uh, I forget Charles S. Dutton,
- 39:14who is a total that guy. Yea Chelsea Ross, Yeah, who's also
- 39:21amazing and Hoosier's and major League and like he's just one of the greatest you
- 39:28know that guy's ever John Beasley the coach, Yeah, the black guy coach,
- 39:36who is in another bajillion movies. Yeah, he's been in a lot.
- 39:40The other coach, Ron Dean, who's a total Chicago guy. He's
- 39:45in like Dark Night and we just saw him in The Fugitive. He was
- 39:49one of the cops. He's in every He's in every Chicago movie, yeah
- 39:53for sure. Uh. And then Vince Vaughan and Lily Taylor and the priest
- 40:01is Roberts and Robert Outdoors Great Outdoors, yes who Also I'm sure I said
- 40:07it also reminds me of your dad for some reason. Yeah you did say
- 40:10that, Yes, Yeah, he did. Definitely. I like that a
- 40:13lot. Yeah, I'm the worst one. Yeah, specifically your dad now
- 40:16and Brendan Brendan Gleeson was your dad younger. Yeah, yeah, but I
- 40:22mean that that is like the biggest list of like guys you know from stuff,
- 40:28right, So I mean, look, I'll just I mean, if
- 40:37we're just picking someone, I mean, I'll just pick someone. I'm just
- 40:42gonna say Chelsea Ross. Even though this isn't this is not my favorite performance
- 40:46of his, but I love him so much. Yeah, I mean,
- 40:51clearly, major League is so great. Whenever I see his face, whenever
- 40:55I see him pop up, I mean major league, every time he's up
- 41:00your butt, Joe Boo forever. Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah,
- 41:06So I just I'll let you. I'll let you guys. I'll also,
- 41:09okay, I'm gonna say ned Beatty. Also because I grew up with Superman.
- 41:14Superman was my favorite movie growing up. Yes, and he's Otis you
- 41:19know Otis Bood. You love Deliverance so much. I love delivering like I've
- 41:24watched his scene and Deliverance squeal like squeel like a piggy. That's ned.
- 41:30I've never seen that. It's okay, he uh, He's incredible. He's
- 41:37incredible, and I love I love so much one of my favorite We can
- 41:44talk about it in scenes, but I just love so much. He's so
- 41:49good in this movie at at at being you know, the dad, but
- 41:54but he doesn't take it all the way. He's still a little lovable.
- 42:00Yeah. I hate when characters are all one thing, and it's just great.
- 42:04He could have another actor could have easily just been like even in the
- 42:08first scene when they're all sitting down and he's like, can I do anyone
- 42:14else have any questions for me? And you're like, oh, Stern dad
- 42:15in the sixth season whatever, And then and then they he goes turn its
- 42:20Channel seven and Pete Young. Pete's like, at halftime, can we watch
- 42:24whatever? And this is right after he's kind of done Rudy a little yeah,
- 42:29and he goes, we only watch one team in this house, isn't
- 42:31that right? And he like gives Rudy a little yeah. I just think
- 42:35he really he does a good job of being a real person, because someone
- 42:38could have someone could have easily just been an dad because there are other and
- 42:44we could talk about later. There are other people in this movie who are
- 42:47just kind of his brother. For one, I kept wanting him to kind
- 42:52of na go and post the question is his whole family because I'm just sorry
- 42:57but like, my god, yeah, but I mean, frank Is is
- 43:01an a bag for real time. But again, that actor even him,
- 43:06like he is just so nasty. The whole time that it gets a little
- 43:10unbelievable for me. And I feel like Ned Batty is a good enough actor
- 43:15that he even there. Their bench scene is so lovely. Yeah, and
- 43:21I love some good about why he might come across this, uh like over
- 43:25the top the brother, Yeah, the brother Yep. I'll look forward to
- 43:31that. But I'll just I'll end this. I've been talking too long.
- 43:35My favorite moment with Ned Beatty is when he comes to the steel mill and
- 43:38tells him he guy even Notre Dame and he finally he like says it and
- 43:44he yells it out and it's so great and he's like, I'll call you,
- 43:49and then he leaves, and Ned Batty just has this little moment where
- 43:52he looks at the letter again and looks at the envelope and then he like
- 43:54carefully puts it back in the end for us, and you can just tell
- 43:58he it's like good to be something. He goes and like puts in a
- 44:02Bible or his favorite book at home. It's his new prize possession. I
- 44:07love that, yeah, almost like he yeah, he wouldn't let himself believe
- 44:13it was possible either, you know what I mean, And like he finally
- 44:15was like, Wow, you know, it's just a little acting moment of
- 44:21just treating that with such reverence, that letter in the Yeah, so anyway,
- 44:27I'm with you. I also picked ned Baby, but my close runner
- 44:30up was Charles S. Dutton because he's got He got to show off a
- 44:35little bit in this with yea with a great speech, but he also just
- 44:39yeah, he got to be a friend of Rudy. You know, he
- 44:45didn't want any like praise and stuff when he gave him the key and Helen,
- 44:49I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I just I thought
- 44:52he it was a lovely performance from him. He's like a that's like a
- 44:57borderline like Oscar performance. I feel like he's in some years. Absolutely,
- 45:02Yeah, for sure, yea, he could. I love all the people
- 45:07you guys have talked about obviously, just to say somebody else. John Favre
- 45:14was fantastic in this. I loved him a ton. I actually kind of
- 45:16assumed he was going to be a football player, maybe because I've seen the
- 45:20replacements too many times or something, but like but I was, yeah,
- 45:23I was like, oh, he's like the smart guy. Cool. This
- 45:28is like that's such a fun different part to see him in and I just
- 45:31thought he was super great and seeing their relationship kind of blossom from I can
- 45:37you know, we each have something we can take advantage of with each other
- 45:40to like a genuine friendship and you know, an affection for one another.
- 45:45It is just lovely. It's really great. I love that that. That
- 45:49part was super super fun. And he gets to come in like a baller
- 45:52later after he's gone to love which is strange because well we can talk about
- 45:58some of the timelines of this movie are strange to me. I'm like,
- 46:01yeah, he must just be rich, like because they say it's a bunch
- 46:05of rich kids. Anyway, he's just maybe he's just splurging for the weekend
- 46:08or whatever. Yeah, that's true. But I'm like, he's only been
- 46:12he's he's been gone for like three months a year. No, he's not
- 46:16done with law school for sure. Yeah, I guess. I guess it
- 46:20was the spring and then it's the probably eight months. Yeah. I'm like,
- 46:24he's still in law school. It's not like he went and made it
- 46:28big. Yeah. Well, I guess he also was like I'm flying back
- 46:34when this happens. So he's got some some money to spend and it's a
- 46:37big deal. I think it's more we're just we're gonna make a day of
- 46:39it, and yeah, agree, maybe maybe Elsa's got some cash in the
- 46:43family. Well they're all at Notre Damn. There's not of course, a
- 46:46lot of rudies, right, No, that's true from what it sounds like.
- 46:51The bigger time one is I'm like, he goes home and his brothers
- 46:53with his girl, and I'm like, he's been gone for like two months,
- 47:00three months easy, Like he's literally been gone for a semester. I
- 47:07know. But dang, Like, yeah, but he hasn't been into her
- 47:12for years, Like, I mean, he kind of was right, But
- 47:15no, I'm not hating on her. I'm just it's funny. It was
- 47:20fast for his brother too. I'm like tougher on the brother I think than
- 47:23her, Like I don't blame her so much. Also, that's the first
- 47:28time we go outside the bloodline, so that's the first time we see older
- 47:31or that brother as a grown up, which is kind of weird. He
- 47:37just kind of pops in. You're like, oh, I forgot he had
- 47:39another brother. That's why he had to say say hello to your little brother.
- 47:44Seriously, Otherwise, because I didn't I would have no idea. It's
- 47:45weird because you've already met you've seen Frank a few times. Sure, sure,
- 47:52yeah, it's weird. Yeah. Anyway, well, let's go talk
- 47:58about some amazing scenes. There's so many good scenes. I think we should
- 48:00pick our favorite one and let's pick the dingas so dingas. It's quite simple,
- 48:08really, Vengas NGAs. I can talk about my dingas all night long.
- 48:12You're gonna just your dingas, Benny, what's your favorite scene? In
- 48:15reality? Holy cow, that's hard. How about we make a deal.
- 48:22Let's all let's all leave out the final scene, okay, and we'll pick
- 48:28one and then we'll just talk and then we'll just talk about that final scene
- 48:30at the end. That's fair because it's kind of silly because clearly the last
- 48:36like last fifteen minutes of this movie are like, yeah, the greatest thing
- 48:40ever. Yep, God, I'm there's so many great scenes you can It's
- 48:53like you can either go acting scene or football scene. Right, I'm gonna
- 48:58you know what, I'm just gonna I'm I'm gonna forego it because I don't
- 49:00know anything about acting, and I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with the football
- 49:06tryout, Tryout. That's that music that's the first time you get it is
- 49:12the greatest piece of music I have this. I have this soundtrack. Also,
- 49:15I should have said this. I actually wanted to put the soundtrack as
- 49:19my TUCCI to be honest, because this is like the greatest sports score of
- 49:27all times. This is one of the best scores of all time. Yeah,
- 49:30like I would put this very high on my all time scores yep.
- 49:36But but specifically, the piece of music that goes over tryouts, it's even
- 49:40in on the album of the soundtrack it's called Tryouts. Starts with that like
- 49:47flute that very like it just feels like early morning do yeah. And it's
- 49:53just one of the sweetest football montages ever. And it starts coach telling him
- 50:01to me too. It really does. It's I think more than maybe any
- 50:07other football movie captures like like August two days to me yeah uh, and
- 50:15starts with a coach telling him, you know about we have this many players
- 50:19on scholarship and blah blah blah, and maybe we'll keep two of you and
- 50:22and just great great hitting, great just football action. It does not look
- 50:30fake. I mean I don't think it is fake. I think they're just
- 50:32doing it. So I'm gonna say that. I just it's incredible. That's
- 50:37way up there for me too. I also put that down and again I
- 50:40think I do think there's a separation of acting scenes and full sure sequences.
- 50:45So then an acting scene. My favorite acting scene is the speech from Charles
- 50:50U. S. Dutton after Rudy says he's gonna quit. Oh yes,
- 50:55and he just kind of it's like whatever that'll be in quotes, I'm sure,
- 51:01but everything he says is great. It's the Oscar winner. Yep,
- 51:06yep. That would have been had he been nominated. That would have been
- 51:08the the clip that they used for sure. And another like a football scene.
- 51:16One that hit home hard was when he was in high school and he
- 51:22uh, it's the last deal and he's like, so for a lot of
- 51:24you, this is gonna be the last time you were a football jersey ever.
- 51:29And I we that happened. They had that, our coaches had the
- 51:34exact same speech pretty much, and we had like whatever that night that we
- 51:38had Benny when we were seniors, and I I was like falling like a
- 51:45baby. I cried for like two hours after that game, like a ton
- 51:50of bricks. I wasn't really expecting that. But when he went into that
- 51:54features, oh god why and he was right, never put pads on again.
- 52:02Also, we lost a armstrong and we should have won, and strange
- 52:06it was because of our coaches because they were not great. But it's a
- 52:09whole another podcast for me. Who But yes, I cried a lot too.
- 52:15Yeah, that one hit me hard. And Robbie sat in the locker
- 52:22room with our gear on and cried. Same, dude, same. And
- 52:29I was actually at UMD because it was a section championship. Oh wow,
- 52:35I played my last two my last two years. We ended the season there.
- 52:37Well, my season ended there the last two years because I got hurt
- 52:42the first year and then the second year we lost. So but yeah,
- 52:45just sat in there and stopped. Yeah forever. Good call that that.
- 52:51That high schooling is wonderful and I love I love it. One last hit,
- 52:55Yeah, the one last hit, and I was cool. I loved
- 52:59that. I love Dad the coach. Give him the extra like, hey,
- 53:02we're gonna like already you already know, like he's just like a great
- 53:07person to have around, right, Yeah, you know totally, So for
- 53:13sure, what do you abuse? Uh? I mean all the ones you
- 53:17guys said for sure, I also really liked. I guess this is an
- 53:23acting scene, but it's a Rudy ghost and talks to not his father but
- 53:30the father capital f father, so the Lord and Savior father uh in the
- 53:36church, and he's just talking about like I'm running out of time, I'm
- 53:38gonna fail, I'm gonna do whatever, and the Father's like, you've done
- 53:43great, and he know, he says like I feel like a failure,
- 53:46and he's just like, I think you'll find out this is still worthwhile.
- 53:50And man, I just was like, that is some that is some wisdom
- 53:53that you do not know when you're in college. And I've had so many
- 53:58of those moments in my life. And I just thought they both played it
- 54:00so perfectly because Rudy, who is not like a he's not a dumb guy
- 54:07or anything, and he's pretty like emotionally intelligent, but he just he's blinded
- 54:13by his aspirations at that point, and the other guys like, dude,
- 54:15I wish you could see what we all see and how much you've done to
- 54:21even get here, let alone you know whatever else comes after. I just
- 54:24I loved that seeing a ton and it's nice to see the the difference or
- 54:31like the juxtaposition of the priest talking to him versus fortune. Yes, the
- 54:38grounds keep you know, he's because he's very, very harsh with him and
- 54:43like you get your head up your ass like you're yeah, yeah, and
- 54:46the priest is so much more gentle with him. But it's the same message.
- 54:51It's like, you don't understand what's going on here, like this this
- 54:54football thing is is great, but there's a lot more life has changed because
- 55:00of you. You you did this. You are doing more for yourself than
- 55:05you have any idea, yeah, that you're doing. And also just a
- 55:12just a runner up to uh, debob getting asked out or we think he's
- 55:17getting asked out by the cute blonde gal and then it's elsa like the wants
- 55:22to introduce him, and I was just like, also so much, so
- 55:25good on the writers. They have two of those sort of gotcha joke scenes,
- 55:30one with her and then his first one with the priest, which is
- 55:35such a right, such a great We're just gonna throw in a little a
- 55:38little humor here, which is so necessary too because it's pretty heavy. Yeah,
- 55:45you know, I mean, there's there's not a lot of levity and
- 55:49they get that nice, that nice. I don't want to be a priest.
- 55:52Yeah, you know you think I want to be a priest. And
- 55:54Favreau helps when he comes in. That's obviously great. Yeah, Avro's face
- 56:00and that's it's just so great, motionless wonderful. Yeah, what other ones
- 56:12did you guess have? Obviously the team putting their jerseys on the coach's dusk
- 56:15can be incredible. Yeah, good call. I've kind of in my brain
- 56:21included that and sort of the end sequence. But you're right, that's such
- 56:23a great scene. And right before that that line that we'll say, the
- 56:29line never mind, we'll say, but I love it, a freaking slow
- 56:32clap of him coming back on the field, like so good. There's so
- 56:38many good ones. They really they really use their time efficiently in this movie,
- 56:45because, like Robbie when you said, you know, the you know,
- 56:50cutting out the booster stuff, that's honestly the only the only thing I
- 56:54can think of that that feels feels, that makes sense. I mean,
- 57:01everything else I feel like is very well used time. I mean, yeah,
- 57:06I just you know, he's getting his ass kicked so much, like
- 57:09we get it it is, Yeah, yeah, it is totally you're having
- 57:15to overcome a lot. It's but because they didn't go anywhere with that,
- 57:21that love interest, I'm just like, oh yeah, that was the only
- 57:23thing that I could think I agree to take out. I think you're right.
- 57:27Yeah, I love I love I love the practicing when he's you know,
- 57:32gets wrecked by the offensive lineman and then he slufs his block and he
- 57:36gets pissed out of it. Yeah, and the wrecks him. And but
- 57:40then after in the parking lot, you know, he's like, you know,
- 57:45if I don't if I don't do this, I'm not helping you do
- 57:47what you need to do. Got it? And it's like a moment.
- 57:50It's like the shift of respect. It's like yes, and and that dude
- 57:55towering over him, he's like, but it's it's the moment of Okay,
- 58:02we've you know, respect man. Yeah. Yeah, and it's it's awesome.
- 58:07Yeah, that's a great scene, A good call. I mean all
- 58:13that to say, the last fifteen minutes it is perfect, bro, I
- 58:19mean, dude, yeah, no, uh, I feel like this this
- 58:24director, you know, Gavin O'Connor is our director. Now who I feel
- 58:29like is is this you know he did a Warrior and Miracle and The Way
- 58:37Back, and I'm just like, I think of this like I think of
- 58:39the last fifteen minutes of Warrior or the Game and Miracle or I'm just like
- 58:46or Hoosiers too. I mean, this guy what's what's the director's name,
- 58:50an Spa, I mean he Didiers too. I mean, yeah, just
- 58:57as well done as as it could be, and well done from a sports
- 59:02standpoint, because we all know football very well and the football makes sense,
- 59:07right, you know, yeah, yeah, the only way he's going to
- 59:10get on the field is if we if we throw this touchdown, which a
- 59:14lot of people I don't think would even understand what's going on because because he
- 59:17plays defense, you know, and and the whole time I was like,
- 59:21are they going to put him in a running back or something? What's gonna
- 59:23you know, you know, he probably plays practice special teams all the time,
- 59:28so right, you know, they score and then they throw him on
- 59:30kickoff team and then and then he gets to go in for one. But
- 59:36it's just like so well done. I mean everything about the coach, like
- 59:43out of the side of his mouth yelling. Also our guy, uh Chelsea
- 59:51Ross. They used to play this clip at the Metrodome during Vikings games.
- 59:57He would come up and he would go, no one one, and I
- 1:00:00mean no one comes into our house and pushes us around goosebumps. Yes,
- 1:00:07play it. They used to play it to me. I know me too.
- 1:00:08They used to play at the Metrodome and fights games, and I was
- 1:00:10always like, let's rip their let's kill everyone. I love it so much.
- 1:00:25Yeah, it's so good and perfect. Andy Goldsmith just lets it rip.
- 1:00:36Even even his brother's excited. Yes, everybody, Yeah, and everyone's
- 1:00:42crying. I'm crying. John Favreau says, who's the wild Man now?
- 1:00:45Which I mean I didn't even understand that, get it, because that's set
- 1:00:51up earlier. I've always wondered that, but I thought I missed it or
- 1:00:53something. I've watched this a thousand times, and I don't. I think
- 1:00:58they accidentally cut some wild Man scene where where where Sean Aston called him wild
- 1:01:05man? Because yeah, it's never really made sense, but it's great.
- 1:01:09The only thing we're gonna be silly is them gets throwing the touchdown pass.
- 1:01:15Yeah, being like, come on, Billy, we're gonna do this.
- 1:01:22But he doesn't care. You know, he's already had a disgraceful college career.
- 1:01:25They even say it. When he comes out. It's like, whatever,
- 1:01:29screw screw you, Dan, Divine really laid into that guy. You
- 1:01:35just summed up your whole sorry career right here. If you had half the
- 1:01:39hardest word degree, you could have been All American, but instead you just
- 1:01:43went for the first team to the prep team. Yeah, that's a good
- 1:01:49set talking about They about Kirk Cousins. You know, last practice fixes the
- 1:01:55super Bowl. Actually they're like last play of the season and its it's week
- 1:02:02three. Don't say it. Just kidding. We're joking. We love you,
- 1:02:06joking. We be belated birthday. You're a good man. Oh yeah,
- 1:02:09congratulations, welcome to thirty something five five. He's a young man.
- 1:02:17Young man right right now. Yeah yeah, let's let's do some quotes,
- 1:02:22you guys. Let's do show me the Boddy, show me the show me
- 1:02:34some quotes. Oh man, I was, I was gonna say you should
- 1:02:37do that fortune speech because you're like, yeah, I do the big one.
- 1:02:40I was forgetting to write down quotes. You're an actor, dang say
- 1:02:47a couple, say a couple. Okay, yeah, you go for that.
- 1:02:54I was we never really talked about Pete, but his buddy in the
- 1:02:58beginning, he was very world cast and yes, you know you needed that,
- 1:03:02that friendship, a guy who is actually there for him, like the
- 1:03:06only guy in his corner. But he's got he's got a pretty great line
- 1:03:09in there, and he's like, well, you know what my dad always
- 1:03:12said, having dreams is what makes life tolerable. Yes, I thought that
- 1:03:16was pretty great. Love that. Oh, no, bugs do the year
- 1:03:22five foot nothing one? I got it. Yeah, it's the second line
- 1:03:27of that got your head so far up. Yes, your five foot nothing,
- 1:03:30one hundred and nothing and he had barely a speck of athletic ability.
- 1:03:36And you hung in there with the best college football players in the land for
- 1:03:38two years and you're gonna walk out of here with a degree from the university
- 1:03:44and Notre Dame. In this life, you don't have to prove nothing to
- 1:03:46nobody but yourself. And after what you've gone through, if you haven't done
- 1:03:52that by now, it ain't gonn never happen. Now, go on back,
- 1:03:58yep, yep, that Charles, why didn't we give you an oscar?
- 1:04:05Seriously, Honestly, the more we talk about it, the more I'm
- 1:04:09like, yeah, we shut up. He was so great. It's kind
- 1:04:12of legit. You know, you don't get a lot for these kind of
- 1:04:15sports movies are almost like like superhero or like genre movies where I feel like
- 1:04:20they people get overlooked, like I personally think. Not to get way off
- 1:04:27topic here, but Kurt Russell and Miracle was crazy snubbed for. He was
- 1:04:31pretty good. He's good to me, He's not unlike anything he's ever done.
- 1:04:39And I'm just I mean, I don't know, Tom Hardy and Warrior,
- 1:04:43Are you freaking kidding me? I don't know anyway? Quote yeah,
- 1:04:47Charles du Man, Yes, he is so good. That scene that Biggs
- 1:04:55talked about where Rudy's talking with father, He's like, Rudy's like, if
- 1:05:00I've done everything I possibly can, can you help me? And he says,
- 1:05:02Son, in thirty five years of religious study, I've come up with
- 1:05:05only two hard yes in controvertible facts. Yep, there is a God and
- 1:05:14I'm not him and I'm not him. Good line, it's good, Such
- 1:05:17a great line. He is so good. Benny. You got to do
- 1:05:21the the ned Baty line when he gets to the stadium, because I've heard
- 1:05:26you quote that quite a few times. Yes, I love that line,
- 1:05:29which one when he when ned Baty is coming into the stadium and he looks
- 1:05:34at the field. Oh, I've never seen something more beautiful than all my
- 1:05:40life. This is the most beautiful sight these eyes have ever seen, the
- 1:05:44most beautiful. We do that one, but we also do you know American
- 1:05:51beauty? We do uh. We love to do the bag flowing and sometimes
- 1:05:56there's just so much beauty in the world. I can hardly stand it.
- 1:06:00Yeah, Taylor, and I still say that time. Oh, dude,
- 1:06:04every time I see a plastic bag floating. Every time. It is true,
- 1:06:09though, that baby comes in, He's like the most beautiful thing these
- 1:06:12eyes have ever seen. And then old Frank comes along and he's like,
- 1:06:15let's go Dad. He's like, damn it, Frank, have some joy.
- 1:06:19It's not that cool days. Christ like, what Frank, My god,
- 1:06:24I'm still working at the mill with you everything world's biggest buzz kill.
- 1:06:29Does Frank have any friends? Holy god, it's a joint. And then
- 1:06:34seriously, Bro, Frank needs something. Man, he is just the man
- 1:06:44now who likes a good story about a bridge. Who invited Frank? Frank
- 1:06:49get out of here, killington over here? Sorry? What else you already
- 1:06:58said at the Chelsea Ross when he says no one and I mean no comes
- 1:07:02into our house and pushes that one's awesome. I love also his one,
- 1:07:12you're an All American and our captain act like it. I believe I am.
- 1:07:16Yeah, man, I loved that. That was so great. Also,
- 1:07:20that's both right before they put all the jerseys on. So okay,
- 1:07:23Dan Divine, I'm like, Wow, this is the most leadery thing I've
- 1:07:27ever seen in my life. Right yeah, it's just the most standard up,
- 1:07:32most stand up thing I've ever seen. He's like, actually, kid
- 1:07:36be doing in here. I had to. I've got to make an a
- 1:07:46in this class, Rudy says, and then de Bob says, just remember
- 1:07:49your sit team leaving and then it shouldn't be a problem. That's like,
- 1:07:54that's just smart kid thing to say it. I love that. Uh,
- 1:08:00those are the father the priest says, those admissions people. You can never
- 1:08:05tell. They're a funny bunch of squirrels. It's good and I've never heard
- 1:08:11that, but I love it. That's like hardcore cussing for father. He
- 1:08:17had to do some hail Mary's after that. Oh, I do like I
- 1:08:23do like Favreau. What's the lapsed Catholic to do? Oh, yeah,
- 1:08:29it's pretty funny. I can't say damn no more. Yeah, I can't.
- 1:08:34I can't say it. I also I mentioned this early, but it's
- 1:08:40in the scene between the priest and him and Rudy and he's like, I
- 1:08:44don't care about results. If I don't succeed, it doesn't mean anything.
- 1:08:47I'm sure that you'll find that it does. Kid. I just love that
- 1:08:50line. Yep, so good, so good. The same captain who is
- 1:09:00putting out the the jersey first, he's like, are you ready for this,
- 1:09:04champion? I've been ready for this my whole Life's like then you take
- 1:09:08us out on the field. It so fun, so good. There's so
- 1:09:14man. And he's another reason why Rudy gets out because he has a pick
- 1:09:18six, right, that's the same dude, he gets six. That's what
- 1:09:24leads to the blowout or which pretty much is the dagger, and then he
- 1:09:28runs out. So I'm like, yeah, I'm like, you're not even
- 1:09:32gonna, you know, put him on like Jack Chick return team. And
- 1:09:36I'm like, well they put him on special team, didn't they. Yeah,
- 1:09:40But I'm staying right after that, you know, he runs off and
- 1:09:42he's like let him, let him go in, And I'm like, I'm
- 1:09:45sure he knows. I'm like, you got the game in the bag,
- 1:09:48throw him on return. Yeah, I mean, like gee's Dan Devine relax
- 1:09:53man. Yeah. I also love the charlesist in mine just the hey kid,
- 1:10:00you ever address, I'll be there. So love that. Yeah.
- 1:10:06Man, the more we talk about it, Charles has Dutton just absolutely crushes
- 1:10:10the smoothie. Yeah, he really does. That's a good call for sure.
- 1:10:14Yeah, he was wonderful. Love. Did you guys have any other
- 1:10:17ones? Or should we move on to a lengthy Biggs boohoo moments section?
- 1:10:23Good good moments. Strong men also cry strong men also, So I mean
- 1:10:34I did just say, like the last fifteen minutes is one of them.
- 1:10:38So then I also did that maybe we should talk about maybe we should talk
- 1:10:43about when bugs wasn't crying short in this segment, I put eleven on there.
- 1:10:49So let's let's get through it. The first one is one that hit,
- 1:10:55you know, close to home for me. The high school coach saying
- 1:10:58it's the last time they're gonna football uniform, Rudy getting the one last hit
- 1:11:03when his teacher doesn't Leaven let him go check out Notre Dame and takes him.
- 1:11:09I wanted to beat the hell out of that. Wasn't cool. That's
- 1:11:12ridiculous. When his buddy gives him the Notre Dame jacket, just like you
- 1:11:16were born to wear that jacket, Pete. Then of course when Pete dies,
- 1:11:26Yeah, the funeral and all that, and he has to try and
- 1:11:29all that him when he gets accepted. That bench scene when he's reading that,
- 1:11:34Ye, my son's going to Notre Dame on the loudspeaker. So great,
- 1:11:42that so much. When he makes the team, yep. Of course,
- 1:11:47when fortune tells him to go back, he regrets quitting every day.
- 1:11:53Yep. When the team puts their jerseys on the desk, this is the
- 1:12:00most beautiful sight these eyes have ever seen. Yes, and the next fifteen
- 1:12:04minutes those are my eleven for sure? What are you going to, Benny?
- 1:12:10Well, it sort of goes with him telling to go back, but
- 1:12:15slow clap walking back on the field. Yeah, I did count that as
- 1:12:21one because I was still crying. You were still crying from his sin.
- 1:12:27Wait did they get hard to parse out? You have something? He didn't
- 1:12:30say? Yes, you do, Hold on, I do you do not?
- 1:12:35I mean, he did really well. Is it him saying goodbye to
- 1:12:39John Fava? It is? It is that because I loved like an extra
- 1:12:45long hug, didn't lovely and was so good at he almost like is surprised
- 1:12:51by it. Yeah, Like he's just like Rudy is so single minded,
- 1:12:57but he also really does like up appreciate people helping him, like he's not.
- 1:13:01He's not like a you know, so full of himself narcissist that he
- 1:13:05can't acknowledge that he's getting a ton of help. You know. I love
- 1:13:09that. That's a great point. Yeah, and yeah, I just loved
- 1:13:14that. I love Favreau seems almost like surprised that. It's because I feel
- 1:13:19like he's he's probably never had that good of a friend either of Yes,
- 1:13:25agreed, agreed. Yeah, they're both special to each other, right,
- 1:13:29Like none of the good things that are happening for both of them would happen
- 1:13:31without the other. And I think that's really beautiful. You're the world man.
- 1:13:35No man, when did she when did he? Did he call you
- 1:13:42a wild man? At some point? No? I just I just think
- 1:13:44he's wild. I don't know, he's so little. Let him go he's
- 1:13:48rolling. I love little and he was. They did a good job of
- 1:13:55getting clearly he's not a big person, but yeah he is now that he
- 1:14:01showed up to college. So uh we're at twelve right now, Bukes,
- 1:14:06what do you do you have more? Uh? No, that was it,
- 1:14:11that was all you were wicked close. I was really I was really
- 1:14:15clocking you there. And I'm I mean, but also, that's that's pretty
- 1:14:19much most points of the movies, So I mean, yeah, yeah,
- 1:14:25for sure. Like I said, there's less times where you're not getting choked
- 1:14:30up than you are. Yes, I'm absolutely true. Sometimes sometimes I get
- 1:14:34choked up, even at like the sweet football scenes. But I get choked
- 1:14:38up sometimes at movies when I'm just like, this is so awesome. Yes,
- 1:14:43not even hype. We call those hype tears. Hype tears. And
- 1:14:45I was going to put down the hit Benny's favorite scene, the tryout scene,
- 1:14:53just because of that. That's a good point. I love. I
- 1:14:57love I love that term hYP hype because I get them in movies. Yeh
- 1:15:02uh, where it's not even necessarily the content. I just get emotional that
- 1:15:08the filmmaking is so awesome. There's a few times, like just like Moneyball.
- 1:15:14I think of there's times in that movie where I'm just like, I
- 1:15:17love this they're doing like the phone dude, when when he is seriously just
- 1:15:26looking up the stats yea of these guys, the music comes in, you
- 1:15:30see, like the different like spreadsheets, and You're like, why am I
- 1:15:35getting emotional? Why? Like it happens to me. It happens to me
- 1:15:42in comedies sometimes too, And I'm just like, this is this is as
- 1:15:45good as this can be performed, you know, I just I don't know
- 1:15:51love that, but yeah, hype tears. I like that. I've never
- 1:15:55had a term, never had a term for it. Yeah, we had
- 1:15:58to come up with one, after all all the movies, The Lord of
- 1:16:01the Rings, so many highs, which which one? All of them?
- 1:16:09All of them? But returning then it was in the fifties for sure.
- 1:16:15Fifty two, yeah, fifty some fifty something, yea too many? We
- 1:16:20can all agree, Okay, I believe that Sean Ashton is responsible for a
- 1:16:24lot of them. Oh so hence why he got snubbed, and so did
- 1:16:29Ian mckillan. That's my favorite character and all of all of fiction ever,
- 1:16:34Sam Sam Sam Wise gamgre for sure, pretty good love a good one.
- 1:16:39Pretty good. We can talk more about that later. I can't make any
- 1:16:43fatty mcfat fish. Thank you, Let's go with you. In the movie,
- 1:16:53Rudy is portrayed us to have largely gone into the steel industry after graduating
- 1:16:58high school, but in reality, he served four years in the US Navy
- 1:17:00as a yeoman on a communication ship which is never mentioned. But it's not
- 1:17:08mentioned, but the duffel bag that he carries around with him all the time
- 1:17:12when he first gets to Notre Dame has USN on it for United States Navy,
- 1:17:16So that was kind of kind of a cool, littlesting point there.
- 1:17:19Cool, but yeah, I thought that was interesting. In real life,
- 1:17:23Dan Divine was very supportive of Rudy and elected to put him in the game
- 1:17:27on his own, but because he considered Rudy a friend, he volunteered to
- 1:17:32play a villain in order to get the film green Lip because they must have
- 1:17:35thought that they needed that. I guess it's interesting. It's a it's a
- 1:17:40cooler story. Yeah. Uh, it's so weird to me because this last
- 1:17:45time I watched it, I was I was kind of like, when,
- 1:17:47like when again when he when they come in and do the jersey thing.
- 1:17:50I'm like, like, what football coach wouldn't be like pumped up by this?
- 1:17:56I don't know. I mean, football coaches loved any reason to get
- 1:17:59their teams pumped up. I mean, yeah, you know. I'm like,
- 1:18:02well, just give him something to focus on it. Yeah, I'm
- 1:18:04just like something getting something jacked up about it. I mean, you know,
- 1:18:10it's one roscue, you're like fourth string lineman or someone. I mean,
- 1:18:15I don't know. Yeah, I get I get told doing it for
- 1:18:17dramatic purposes, but I seriously thought about it watching it this last time,
- 1:18:21I was like, why would this guy not be into this? And then
- 1:18:24at the end of the game when he yells put in the seniors and what's
- 1:18:29his nail, teams like, yeah, we put him in. He's like,
- 1:18:32I'm like, why would you not that? Why would you kill the
- 1:18:35games? I mean, I don't know. The perfect thing. That's what's
- 1:18:40interesting is because I totally agree with you on all that. But apparently Dan
- 1:18:44Divine was not happy about the scene where the players laid down their jerseys.
- 1:18:48It apparently did not happen, and he was like, if that would have
- 1:18:51happened, I would have kicked all those people off the team, and it's
- 1:18:56like, yeah, that's kind of fair, but it is cool. You
- 1:18:59got admit it's cool, buddy. It's a movie. It's a movie.
- 1:19:03Also, I'm very I'm very pro fiction. You know. Yes, I'm
- 1:19:10not someone who gets but heard about we're bending the truth for movies, you
- 1:19:13know. To me, it's the same thing as kind of like punching up
- 1:19:16a story of course that you've told for years and years, you know,
- 1:19:18like it's just fun based based on a true story. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:19:25Basically the crowd scene when Rudy is cheering in the stands is a real game
- 1:19:30between Notre Dame and Penn State which was played in the snow during the ninety
- 1:19:34two season. And you can see Penn State fans with hats on around him,
- 1:19:39which I think is pretty fun. Oh, this was what I was
- 1:19:43talking about earlier. According to Rudy, he had no brother named Frank in
- 1:19:45real life. The character of Frank is all the people who told Rudy he
- 1:19:49couldn't do it rolled into one character. So that might have also been wise
- 1:19:55a little one note, that's what you're saying earlier. Yeah, that's what
- 1:19:59I was saying, which you know, but I kind of still agree,
- 1:20:01like, let's give him a tiny bit of redemption maybe or something. I
- 1:20:05don't know. I just don't like when they do that in any movie,
- 1:20:08when any characters like yeah, I'm mean, like I'm a character and it's
- 1:20:13just like Jesus, like none of us are that. Yeah. I mean,
- 1:20:16is this dude a serial killer? Like? I think he's probably cool
- 1:20:20with his brother sometimes? I mean, is not that beautiful? Get up
- 1:20:27into the most beautiful safe these I's ever seen. Our seats are gonna get
- 1:20:30taken. Let's go. I want to get a beer. God, I'm
- 1:20:33gonna gouge those beautiful eyes out if you don't get me to some natos now,
- 1:20:39and there's people behind us. Let's go. God, Frank, it's
- 1:20:45your first time in Oh, I thought this was fun. The game film
- 1:20:50that coach Parsigian is that his name Parsigian is watching when Ruddy walks in to
- 1:20:57ask if he could dress? Is the actual game that Rudy played in?
- 1:21:05Me too? I think that's just it just shows they care, which I
- 1:21:09love. Oh. Rudy runs his finger down the list in a close up
- 1:21:15two times when he's looking to see if he made the team. The first
- 1:21:17time he starts on one name and the second time he starts on a different
- 1:21:20name. The two names that his fingers starts on are the two players who
- 1:21:26picked him up and carried him off the field in real life after their game.
- 1:21:30That was kind of cool, nice like stuff like that. Let's see.
- 1:21:35According to the real Rudy, the character Fortune was also a combination of
- 1:21:41three different people who were helping him realize his dream of playing football for Notre
- 1:21:45Dame. So kind of makes sense. Oh, I thought this was cool.
- 1:21:50Among the future NFL players who played on Notre Dame when Rudy was the
- 1:21:56senior was future Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Montana, who was a freshman at
- 1:22:00the time in real life. So that's kind of cool. Wait when it
- 1:22:03was very at what part? So so that when real Rudy played his senior
- 1:22:10year, Joe Montana was on Notre Dame and but was a freshman. That's
- 1:22:15awesome, which is just kind of cool. Yeah, it's very The real
- 1:22:18Debob plays a bartender in this movie, which is pretty fun. Love that,
- 1:22:24So that's cool. Yeah, the real Rudy in there too, did
- 1:22:28wasn't he like a fan? In the stands or something. Oh I didn't
- 1:22:30see that. Yeah that makes sense. Mostly like we could have found something
- 1:22:34a little better for him to do, couldn't we. Yeah yeah, you
- 1:22:38would think, haven't be at the steel mill or something, I don't know,
- 1:22:41something something cooler. Yeah, that would have been cool. Yeah,
- 1:22:45they could have totally done that. You're right, we said that one already.
- 1:22:53Oh I thought this was cool. Ned Bady plays Sean Aston's father.
- 1:22:56The year before he appeared in Prelude to a Kiss, in which he played
- 1:23:00the husband of Aston's real life Mutter Mutter, his real life Mutta Patti.
- 1:23:09Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that was fun. That was
- 1:23:12all I had though. Actually, you know, I did not see one
- 1:23:15bit of info about different actors up for other roles, which with a movie
- 1:23:20like Surprising that's thirty years old, you usually hear about things like that,
- 1:23:27but I didn't. I didn't. They needed a ton of young actors,
- 1:23:30so usually that means I guess they got a bunch of me, you know,
- 1:23:32or I was a couple. So yeah, interesting, So I had
- 1:23:36all those two Yeah, I mean he was glad. He was just so
- 1:23:41perfect for this, and he was he was coming. He was on like
- 1:23:44a nice run there. I feel like from Goonies to yeah, well I
- 1:23:49shouldn't say that. I guess what he is? This before after I loved
- 1:23:54the movie Toy Soldiers. Do you guys know that movie? Yes? Oh
- 1:24:00that might be after. It wasn't that after. I'm looking. I'm looking.
- 1:24:06It was kind of like a War Games, right, uh, Sean
- 1:24:11Aston goes they they're at a private school, right, kind of a rich
- 1:24:16kiddie private school, and it gets taken over by terror. It's like it's
- 1:24:21like a Red Dawn, but it happens at a private school. Lewis Gossip
- 1:24:27ever seen Master Bugs? It's sweet? I love that. It was love
- 1:24:30that sounds cool. And Sean Aston it's great because he plays kind of like
- 1:24:34a like a bad kid, not mean, but just like a misspell than
- 1:24:40before Rudy though, That's what I'm wondering, like it it was was it
- 1:24:44was? That was ninety one, Rudy's ninety three. He was in Encino
- 1:24:48man before, Oh my god, he was on a heater man Memphis Bell,
- 1:24:56the War of the Roses staying together man like they're like son, that's
- 1:25:01it. But those are some. But that's pretty good. From from Goonies
- 1:25:05on. I mean that's like in Cino Man was kind of a big deal.
- 1:25:12Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean that movie did a cult
- 1:25:15for sure. I think it did pretty well because I yeah, I just
- 1:25:19listened to a thing with Brendan Fraser talking about it and he was like,
- 1:25:25we didn't have what's going on? Yeah? Yeah, crazy nice? Well
- 1:25:32yeah, let's uh judgment day. Will there be a sequel? You guys?
- 1:25:38Probably not? Probably not unless he has a daughter that makes it probably
- 1:25:43not. Something I didn't want to I didn't want to say one more thing
- 1:25:45though, No, just in general, okay, before we finished up.
- 1:25:50Yeah, I just want to one more shout out to this score because I
- 1:25:54just think it's the greatest thing ever. Uh like truly one of the best
- 1:26:00ever. And I just I love it so much because I also, you
- 1:26:04know, this director and writer also did Hoosiers, which I love Hoosiers to
- 1:26:10say a lot. However, the one thing I think Hoosiers is lacking is
- 1:26:16the score. And this is just something, This is just something I want
- 1:26:20to bring up to you guys on the movie front. This is just something
- 1:26:24I feel about movies. I've always been someone who I feel like the score
- 1:26:30of a movie, especially a period movie, should not have any instruments that
- 1:26:35weren't around in that period. Oh okay, interesting. So yeah, so
- 1:26:42you know, like look, an orchestral score like this basically works in anything
- 1:26:46to me, you know for sure, whatever, But Hoosiers, for whatever
- 1:26:54reason, I don't know who did the score, but it's super synthy because
- 1:26:59you know it was like eight eighty five, very six or whatever. It's
- 1:27:02got like synth and like drum set like electronic almost dr Goldsmith. Really I
- 1:27:10do that too, yeah, because I think all these people went from Hoosier's
- 1:27:15ended Rudy, right. I just I don't like it because it has this
- 1:27:18like air of of eighties to me, and I just it like I don't
- 1:27:26like it because it feels dated, you know. And I just it's like
- 1:27:31it's like when someone does like a like an like a movie from the sixteen
- 1:27:35hundreds, and I hear like an electric guitar, you know. I just
- 1:27:41and look. I know there's exceptions if it's highly stylized like a three hundred
- 1:27:45or something whatever, but that's one of my It's just one of my things.
- 1:27:49I've always I've I've I don't like when I want I want period appropriate
- 1:27:58music and instruments, specifically specifically instrumentation to make like a nerdy musical theater reference.
- 1:28:03If you go back to like the original lay Miss recording from like the
- 1:28:08eighties, you can hear, like, you know, there's like drum kind
- 1:28:13of backbeats and like kind of electric electric sounding instruments, and I'm like,
- 1:28:20no, I like the music, I just don't want those instruments in there.
- 1:28:26Yeah, I hear that. That's kind of cool. Yeah, So
- 1:28:29I just wanted to throw that in there because I wanted to talk about it
- 1:28:30about the music because again, so he did do Who's so yeah crazy?
- 1:28:35Because I mean he did, He's done every and again. To be fair,
- 1:28:41the music in Hoosier's is great. It's just I mean, more of
- 1:28:44the instrumentation of it. Sure, Like I don't love that there's like synth
- 1:28:48synth music and and like a drum, like a drum set, Like I
- 1:28:54don't know, it just sounds eighties to me where this sounds. This sounds
- 1:28:58very timeless to me. Let's see. Yeah, like you could put this
- 1:29:01music in freaking anything and it would be incredible. Well, so many people
- 1:29:06have stolen this music for any pump up sports thing. But yeah, we're
- 1:29:16not going to get a sequel, so I think we should go to our
- 1:29:20game. Do you want to play a game? Yeah, then I'm gonna
- 1:29:25who's starting five? Because Benny, Benny always is very good at this.
- 1:29:29When Benny, you know how this goes. It's the five actors. If
- 1:29:33we don't name them, you can name them for points. The other person
- 1:29:36can steal all that stuff. We know how to play. So here we
- 1:29:41go. Let's go to number one. The first name is Wendell Pierce.
- 1:29:49The second name is Terrence Howard. Number three Carrie Washington. Number four,
- 1:30:02Benny, Benny Crash. That is incorrect. Oh, so, Buggs,
- 1:30:11you you have this here, buddy. We got Wendell Pierce, Terrence Howard,
- 1:30:14Kerry Washington. The fourth name is Regina King, and the fifth and
- 1:30:20final name is Janie Fox. Damn it? Five? Four? Three?
- 1:30:30Is it? Two? Bugs? Ray? Buggs, Ray, it is?
- 1:30:33You got it? He's on the board. Oh and yes, all
- 1:30:38of these films are something, yes, Benny, these are these are movies
- 1:30:41that are someone's name. There's someone's name, yeah, the character in the
- 1:30:46movie. And there is one more thing that you should know about the title
- 1:30:54one or one with a name. Yeah. So I'm gonna give both of
- 1:30:58you guys a half a point there because it's a one word title and it's
- 1:31:02a character's zo okay, perfect, just like Rudy, Rudy or Rudy or
- 1:31:11Ray. So with that in mind, let's go to number two. The
- 1:31:14first name is Talia Shire Benny, Benny, Rocky, got it, That's
- 1:31:23what I was gonna guess. I don't know who the hell Talia Shire is.
- 1:31:26Aw, that's Adrian Benny. Do you know what the other actors names
- 1:31:32in Rocky? This is gonna be tough. Carl Weathers for Carl Weathers.
- 1:31:36Yes, three more just Burgess Meredith. Two more names? Love that?
- 1:31:43Uh? Rock first, Rocky. It's the other one, Well, damn
- 1:31:50it. So far you haven't said the lead who Sylvester and I can't even
- 1:32:00think about it. It's uh it's uh Paul, No, that's his name?
- 1:32:06Of that? I don't know it? Okay, do you know who
- 1:32:10it is? It's got to be Polly right, and his name is he
- 1:32:15was also back to school? What's his first name? Yeah? Bert?
- 1:32:21I would never have gotten this, oh, no idea, Yeah, his
- 1:32:26name is Bert Young. But Rocky Sylvester stallone, Carl weathers Burgess Meredith for
- 1:32:32four points. That's very good. All right, Let's go to number three.
- 1:32:39The first name is Ashley Judd Oh. The second name is Diego Luna.
- 1:32:51The third name Jeffrey Rush. I would have never gotten it at this
- 1:33:00point. Number four Alfred Molina. And the fifth and final name is Palma
- 1:33:11hiak well, Benny, Benny, Selena. No, what oh not Selena?
- 1:33:23Three? Good hint? Yeah, okay, yeah, it's that he's
- 1:33:31I don't know, he's doing a universe freed. Yep, damn it.
- 1:33:40I'm sorry, I've never seen that. I did not think of Selena.
- 1:33:43That would have been a good one, So don't get Selena. Vita is
- 1:33:47not in there either. Let's go to number four. The first name is
- 1:33:53Embeth David's. But the second name you guys, Paul Rubens r I P.
- 1:34:02The third name Marl Wilson, the fourth name Ria Pearlman, Benny Benny,
- 1:34:16Matilda Matilda, Matilda. You have one name remaining, Danny de Vito
- 1:34:24Boom. He got two points on that. Bugs. I'm a troll.
- 1:34:29I can't think of anyone I am. I am trying to do movies that
- 1:34:34we don't constantly do as well. Oh yeah, it's not that I just
- 1:34:39can't think of anything. Let's go to number five. The first name is
- 1:34:42James Corp Coburn, James Coburn, the Grocer. The second name is Alfred
- 1:34:50Molina again, the third name James Garner, the fourth name Jody Foster,
- 1:35:09and the fifth and final name is mel Gibson Bukes Bukes. God, that
- 1:35:16would have made me mad. Maverick, Maverick, good job. Way to
- 1:35:24go, Yeah, yep, dang, Let's go to number Well, where
- 1:35:31are we after five Bukes? He's got six and a half and I have
- 1:35:34one and a half, so he's up. All right, you got some
- 1:35:38work. I got some work to do. Let's go to number six.
- 1:35:40The first name Minnesota's own Josh Hartnett. The second name Nick Benny Oppenheimer.
- 1:35:54Oppenheimer. Oh, good work. Yep, you got three names. Lots
- 1:35:59of people in it. Word, who God, there's so many still.
- 1:36:03Sillian Murphy yep, yeah, Murphy Killian, Emily Blunt Yes, and one
- 1:36:11more four? Three, two nipples Robert. It was Robert Downey Jr.
- 1:36:34Biggest, biggest nipples I've ever seen, literally really well, yeah, because
- 1:36:41they're on they were like two feet talls on Imax fuge. I mean I
- 1:36:45said literally bugs. When I say literally, I used the word correctly.
- 1:36:50You really do. Yeah, I'm not saying her, I'm saying literally.
- 1:36:56In my vision they were about two feet tall because I was on my Max.
- 1:37:00Yeah, I bet they were big guys of a small truck. That
- 1:37:06was another four points for Benny's good. This one was probably gonna be I
- 1:37:14thought he was saying Florence Pugh when I was I was, I was gonna
- 1:37:20say Downey, but I wanted to do the joke, so he got it.
- 1:37:27Uh, this one's gonna be hard, you guys. The first name
- 1:37:30is a friend of the pod, John Carroll Lynch, close friend. The
- 1:37:38second name is Billy crude Up. The third name is Greta Gerwig who's very
- 1:37:47hot right now. The fourth name is Peter sars Guard, and the fifth
- 1:37:58and final name is Natalie Portman five four three two. I don't know this
- 1:38:09one. She did a movie. It was pretty good. I feel like
- 1:38:14nobody talked about it, but Jackie, Oh yep, I didn't either.
- 1:38:21Actually, now you said that pretty stacked cast too. Yeah, that's a
- 1:38:26sweet cast. Yeah, that's worth checking out. Wasn't she was she nominated
- 1:38:30for that? I think she was actually at least a golden globe. I
- 1:38:35think, yeah, okay, let's go to number eight. The first name
- 1:38:41is Frankie phase On. The second name is ray Leota r i P.
- 1:38:50The third name is Gary Oldman, the fourth name Julie Anne Moore, Oh,
- 1:39:01my goodness. And the fifth and final name is Anthony Hopkins Benny Benny
- 1:39:12Hannibal. Hannibal is correct. I thought of that earlier and still didn't get
- 1:39:16it. Who was the second name? The second name was Rayleiota Gary Oldman.
- 1:39:29Oh, he's the in the wheelchairs. Yeah, yep. Let's go
- 1:39:35to number nine. The first name is Nila Djovivic Joviovic. I don't know
- 1:39:41if it's a soft ja, but she's a great she's great Yokovic when yovic
- 1:39:48Vic, I don't know. I think I've always said Jovivic, so I'm
- 1:39:51going to say that I don't actually know. Regardless, that's number one.
- 1:39:57The second name is Christine Taylor. Oh. The third name is Will Farrell.
- 1:40:09The fourth name is Owen Wilson Benny Zoolander zoo Lander is correct. In
- 1:40:15one name remaining, Ben Stiller Ben Stiller is correct, and let's just do
- 1:40:21number ten. The first name is Bernadette Peters. The second name is Tim
- 1:40:30Curry. The third name is Carol Burnett, Benny, Benny, Annie,
- 1:40:42Annie is correct. You have two more names, Albert Finney, and then
- 1:40:48do you know Annie's name? Oh? I was thinking of Anne. No,
- 1:40:54I don't know Anny's name. Annie's name was Eileen Quinn. Wow,
- 1:41:00but what's your name? An? You got Finny and Annie? Yeah?
- 1:41:05Yeah? Did you have a bonus? I did have a bonus? Is
- 1:41:12the first name is Issa Ray? Oh? Wait is it Benny? Is
- 1:41:17it Barbie? It is Barbie? You were if you had to pick four
- 1:41:28of their names for Barbie, who would you have picked? Benny, Margot,
- 1:41:31Robbie, Ryan Gosling, Will Ferrell, Kate McKinnon that's the last one.
- 1:41:41Yeah, yeah, I guess we already and another one so oh sure,
- 1:41:45yeah, I would have taken Kate McKinnon. She was so funny in
- 1:41:49that. Oh my god, it's been cleared to Barbie. Wow, Benny,
- 1:41:54you did very well. So you're gonna tell us how we do our
- 1:41:57top five football films draft here and just a minute, that's just for our
- 1:42:00patrons. Yeah, but I made it in one play, so I really
- 1:42:04I'm officially on the team. You're on the feuds. So we did it.
- 1:42:08Look, this was a sports podcast, and you know, in in
- 1:42:11true nowadays fashion, you get a nice participation trophy, So good job.
- 1:42:15Indeed, this was about as good as I was at any sport ever.
- 1:42:19So this worked out for you. But this was super fun. But it
- 1:42:27Thanks for coming back one man, you guys. I love this movie so
- 1:42:31much. When Robbie, when Robbie said it, I was like, oh,
- 1:42:36I know, you're the first. You're the only person I thought of
- 1:42:39for it. Yeah, for sure. I love it so much and I
- 1:42:42rewatched. When I rewatched it, I was just like, God, it's
- 1:42:45just wonderful. I mean, it's still wonderful holds up thirty years later for
- 1:42:48sure. And honestly it is one of those where I'm just like you,
- 1:42:53if this came out right now, I wouldn't I wouldn't think anything of it.
- 1:42:57Perfect Yep, yeah, you know, like it's just so it's so
- 1:43:00great. Absolutely agree. Stay tuned as well. Uh for patrons, we're
- 1:43:08gonna do our favorite football movies draft here, so stay tuned for that.
- 1:43:12It's gonna be fun. Movie if you want to check that out at patreon
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- 1:43:20next time as well. For School of Rock is next. It's gonna be
- 1:43:26all blasts banger after banger here, but yeah, that does it today.
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