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- 0:04Speaker 1: So our next guest is to be Rachel Matthews and
- 0:08Speaker 1: the theme of today is people who are getting out
- 0:10Speaker 1: there and doing things. Now, for those of you who
- 0:13Speaker 1: may not be familiar with what Rachel has done, she
- 0:17Speaker 1: has energized, if that's the right word, culture to counsel
- 0:21Speaker 1: by effectively turning their duties and obligations upon them and
- 0:27Speaker 1: forcing them to react. And this is a lesson that
- 0:31Speaker 1: she has been able to broadcast by her amazing Cultures
- 0:34Speaker 1: to council Watch channel. But Rachel via Cultural scoultul Watch
- 0:39Speaker 1: has has transmitted this message in fact across the world.
- 0:43Speaker 1: And to give you a flavor of the sorts of
- 0:47Speaker 1: skewering that she is conducting, one of her recent videos
- 0:50Speaker 1: was titled pants on Fire. But she has probably I
- 0:56Speaker 1: would say, the most concise and most piercing takedown of
- 1:02Speaker 1: the Green agenda that I've ever seen, which is on YouTube.
- 1:06Speaker 1: So we will look at that. But here's a flavor
- 1:09Speaker 1: of Rachel inaction, and she will then begin speaking to us.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Here's Rachel Matthews.
- 1:16Speaker 2: We've had reports of three middle aged women and cardigans
- 1:19Speaker 2: causing consternation at Colchester Council on previous occasions when they
- 1:24Speaker 2: spoke about the dangers of evis. The police were called.
- 1:26Speaker 2: It's not clear if the police were called this time,
- 1:29Speaker 2: but the women were seen fleeing the town hall around
- 1:31Speaker 2: seven o'clock. A spokesperson advised the public to be cautious
- 1:35Speaker 2: if they see the women and not to approach them
- 1:37Speaker 2: as they might buy the.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Net zero deputees want us to believe that we're all
- 1:41Speaker 3: going to die because of fossil fuel and flattering farm animals.
- 1:44Speaker 4: This is very questionable.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Unquestionable, however, is that we won't survive without the farmers
- 1:50Speaker 3: and the food they produce.
- 1:52Speaker 5: This council is complicit in granting planning permission for fraudulent
- 1:57Speaker 5: five G applications. Companies are given can declarations that they
- 2:01Speaker 5: are complying with Ichner safety recommendations using names of companies
- 2:06Speaker 5: that do not exist.
- 2:08Speaker 6: And why after eight months have I not had any response.
- 2:13Speaker 4: To see the precise nature of the consternation that was caused,
- 2:16Speaker 4: head on over to YouTube for courtious to counsel.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Watch there we are, And on that note, I will
- 2:24Speaker 1: invite Rachel to please come up and start talking to us.
- 2:37Speaker 4: Well, good morning, everybody.
- 2:39Speaker 3: I'm afraid I can't tell you that I have hiked
- 2:42Speaker 3: up the same peak as doctor Malick and Brian, but
- 2:48Speaker 3: I did bottom crawl across the very top of the
- 2:54Speaker 3: oh god, what's it called the Colorado? Someone helped me
- 2:58Speaker 3: out here Grand Canyon and that's it, Yes, because my
- 3:02Speaker 3: legs were shaking so much. But I was determined to
- 3:05Speaker 3: get right to the edge of one bit, so I
- 3:08Speaker 3: did the only thing I could do, got on the
- 3:09Speaker 3: floor and bottom shuffled all the way to the end.
- 3:13Speaker 3: And in some ways that is sort of relevant, not
- 3:16Speaker 3: the bottom shuffling, but doing things when you're too scared
- 3:20Speaker 3: to do them. And also with everything that's going on
- 3:24Speaker 3: in the world, and I know anyone here and anyone
- 3:27Speaker 3: watching this is fully aware of everything that's going on,
- 3:31Speaker 3: But what can we do about it? And also why us,
- 3:36Speaker 3: out of the billions of people in the world, Why
- 3:39Speaker 3: on earth is it us? So I'd like to explore that,
- 3:43Speaker 3: at least because I think there is a reason for it.
- 3:47Speaker 3: But before we do that, I'll give you a brief
- 3:49Speaker 3: summary of what we've been doing in Colchester other than
- 3:52Speaker 3: potentially being biting people. Basically, it's three middle aged women
- 3:59Speaker 3: and cardigans going along to our local council and trying
- 4:02Speaker 3: to educating them, trying to get them to see things
- 4:05Speaker 3: that perhaps they're not going to be seeing on the
- 4:07Speaker 3: mainstream media like EV's was the first topic we went
- 4:12Speaker 3: in on, really to because we know they're not getting
- 4:15Speaker 3: the information. But certainly in Colchester at least, we've got
- 4:20Speaker 3: some really good counselors. Once we started watching their meetings
- 4:23Speaker 3: and studying them, and you think, well, the is are
- 4:25Speaker 3: good people, so if they had good information, surely they'll
- 4:29Speaker 3: make better decisions. That was the original thought behind it. Anyway,
- 4:34Speaker 3: we've been educated since then. You can take a horse
- 4:39Speaker 3: to water, etc. So let me just play you a
- 4:42Speaker 3: quick clip of what three middle aged women have been doing.
- 4:47Speaker 4: Have the panel considered Oh no, she's done that.
- 4:51Speaker 3: Always it all, dear no, I've mucked it up on
- 4:53Speaker 3: montor just a method to everyone at the event?
- 5:00Speaker 4: I think so yes.
- 5:03Speaker 6: Have the panel considered the dangerous of electric vehicles in
- 5:07Speaker 6: their planning and has a Fire Service approved safety plan
- 5:11Speaker 6: been created for dealing with the fires? A Freedom of
- 5:15Speaker 6: information request shows that in London in the last five years,
- 5:19Speaker 6: there have been over five hundred fires caused by the
- 5:22Speaker 6: in electric vehicles. Over two hundred of the fires were cars,
- 5:26Speaker 6: over one hundred electric bikes, sixty scooters, nineteen buses, and
- 5:31Speaker 6: ten HGV fires.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Good evening.
- 5:35Speaker 3: I've been a supporter of green energy and a keen
- 5:38Speaker 3: environmentalist since my twenties. My office is solar powered, so
- 5:41Speaker 3: I was mortified to discover that a single lifthim mine
- 5:44Speaker 3: causes millions of tons of waste every year, laced with
- 5:48Speaker 3: sulfuric acid and radioactive uranium, polluting the water supply for
- 5:52Speaker 3: three hundred years, not to mention the unacceptable human costs
- 5:56Speaker 3: for child labor to mind. Cobalt wind turbines, which last
- 5:59Speaker 3: about twenty years, consume a colossal amount of resources and
- 6:03Speaker 3: energy to manufacture and install, and then gallons of oil
- 6:07Speaker 3: to lubricate, and they can't readily be recycled. Solar panels
- 6:11Speaker 3: are also extremely difficult to recycle, costing more than the
- 6:15Speaker 3: production of the panel, and if the in batteries pose
- 6:17Speaker 3: steep challenges too. Add to that human suffering which we've
- 6:22Speaker 3: all unwittingly been part of just by owning a laptop
- 6:24Speaker 3: or mobile phone, which is minimal compared to what's required
- 6:28Speaker 3: for an EV or solar farm, these so called green
- 6:32Speaker 3: or ethical solutions aren't solutions at all. Just very good
- 6:36Speaker 3: marketing from the one point five trillion dollar a year
- 6:40Speaker 3: climate change industry.
- 6:41Speaker 4: That's four billion dollars a day.
- 6:43Speaker 3: By the way, none of us can undo what's already
- 6:46Speaker 3: been done, but what we can all do is make
- 6:49Speaker 3: sure this doesn't escalate exponentially with fleets of unnecessary evs
- 6:54Speaker 3: and acres of solar farms eating up our precious farmland,
- 6:58Speaker 3: whereas it would be better to hold out until the
- 7:01Speaker 3: real green solutions do come on board, and we're not
- 7:04Speaker 3: there yet.
- 7:04Speaker 7: Withews, I appreciate that you have major contribution. Thank you.
- 7:07Speaker 4: You get an extra minute to revive.
- 7:09Speaker 7: Right then, my apologies please do responders, and can I
- 7:14Speaker 7: ask the members of the public gallery to show respect
- 7:16Speaker 7: to the board and everybody who's trying to do the
- 7:19Speaker 7: best ensure that a meeting is held that everybody can
- 7:22Speaker 7: engage in with respect.
- 7:23Speaker 4: Thank you. I think they're being very respectful.
- 7:28Speaker 5: I'd appreciate not to use any of my time to
- 7:31Speaker 5: just point out the voicing your opinion on respect. Two
- 7:34Speaker 5: of you were sitting having a conversation that I could
- 7:37Speaker 5: hear whilst the previous speaking was talking. So if we
- 7:40Speaker 5: could have a level playing field in terms of not
- 7:42Speaker 5: two tier systeming and expressing respect both ways, that would
- 7:46Speaker 5: be much appreciated.
- 7:47Speaker 4: I thank you very much, No her thanks. We queen
- 7:53Speaker 4: is in the room. She's always on my back. On
- 7:55Speaker 4: the sixth of June, I asked again, there we go.
- 8:00Speaker 3: So yes, as you can see, we make ourselves very
- 8:02Speaker 3: popular at the local council. Now, whilst I am very
- 8:06Speaker 3: well known with council, watch for my sarcasm. This next
- 8:09Speaker 3: bit isn't sarcastic that counselor that I had a little
- 8:11Speaker 3: bit of a run in.
- 8:13Speaker 4: We actually wish.
- 8:14Speaker 3: All the counselors were like her, seriously, because I don't
- 8:18Speaker 3: know if you caught it, but when Karina said about
- 8:22Speaker 3: respect both ways, she nodded, she took it on.
- 8:26Speaker 4: It'd actually been I was dreadful that day I got
- 8:29Speaker 4: on Migrain.
- 8:30Speaker 3: My ear had closed up, I couldn't hear, and I
- 8:32Speaker 3: was like, oh God, I've got to do poor battle.
- 8:35Speaker 3: So I didn't wasn't aware that she was the one
- 8:39Speaker 3: that interrupted me its beginning, because I overran by six
- 8:42Speaker 3: seconds and she interrupted me after that, whereas a gentleman
- 8:46Speaker 3: before he'd been allowed to overrun for a minute. So
- 8:48Speaker 3: we'd had a bit of a set to before we
- 8:50Speaker 3: got to they are being respectful. So yeah, I hadn't
- 8:54Speaker 3: seen her talking because I was in a world of
- 8:57Speaker 3: my own. And yeah, she took it on the chin.
- 9:00Speaker 3: She acknowledged her mistake and she completely changed tune after
- 9:05Speaker 3: that moment and in future times when Kreina went and
- 9:09Speaker 3: spoke with them, Creina asked a question about are you
- 9:13Speaker 3: here to serve the public, and she said yes, absolutely, yes.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Now she was an ex green counselor, so very very
- 9:21Speaker 3: wedded to the whole net zero thing, but she has
- 9:24Speaker 3: read through because I ended up having a nine month
- 9:27Speaker 3: email stream with their climate emergency officer. Oh no, he
- 9:31Speaker 3: was the manager, that's right, So as you can imagine
- 9:33Speaker 3: someone with climate emergency manager in their job description title
- 9:38Speaker 3: not overly willing to see our point of view.
- 9:41Speaker 4: But she has read through all this stuff.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if she's ever going to change
- 9:45Speaker 3: her mind on CO two, but the point was she's
- 9:48Speaker 3: willing to, and once that little set too had happened,
- 9:53Speaker 3: from that moment forward, she changed her tune and she
- 9:55Speaker 3: was really helpful, even though she has a different point
- 9:58Speaker 3: of view to ours. And what more can you ask
- 10:01Speaker 3: for with who you're dealing with in your council or whatever,
- 10:05Speaker 3: even just in members of the public.
- 10:07Speaker 4: Most members of the public are not as.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Open as she was to hearing a different point of view,
- 10:12Speaker 3: and poor woman, she made the mistake of emailing me
- 10:15Speaker 3: once asking me about methane, and I went off on
- 10:17Speaker 3: a complete rant as the most dumb ass thing they
- 10:19Speaker 3: could ever be doing, getting rid of cows. And then
- 10:21Speaker 3: I tried to educate her on regenerative agriculture and how
- 10:25Speaker 3: useful kalmana is, how essential it is, and she said, oh,
- 10:29Speaker 3: I've never heard of regenerative agriculture. Have you got anything
- 10:31Speaker 3: you could send me on it? So I said, yes,
- 10:34Speaker 3: there's this little film.
- 10:35Speaker 4: It's cool.
- 10:35Speaker 3: I can't even remember the title now, but I gave
- 10:37Speaker 3: her the right title, something like the World's Biggest, Tiniest
- 10:40Speaker 3: Little Farm or something.
- 10:42Speaker 4: And it really.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Shows this couple taking wasteland and I think it was
- 10:47Speaker 3: in California and turning it into the most incredible biodiverse
- 10:51Speaker 3: and organic farm.
- 10:52Speaker 4: And I mean it was quite.
- 10:54Speaker 3: Hard going watching because they didn't know what they were doing,
- 10:57Speaker 3: so they made a lot of mistakes, but when they
- 11:00Speaker 3: got it up and running, it was fantastic. So I
- 11:02Speaker 3: sent her that and I hope she's watched it, but
- 11:05Speaker 3: the fact she's shown interest, it's a real shame. She's
- 11:08Speaker 3: no longer a counselor because she changed teams. She got
- 11:12Speaker 3: voted out because she wasn't in the right color team.
- 11:14Speaker 3: So it's very clear people are voting for their teams
- 11:18Speaker 3: rather than the individuals. And she used to work very
- 11:21Speaker 3: hard for her constituents, but they didn't appreciate it. So
- 11:25Speaker 3: that's part of the battle you're up against. But so
- 11:28Speaker 3: that's what we do. We go in and try and
- 11:30Speaker 3: educate them. And has it worked well, Have we achieved anything?
- 11:35Speaker 3: That's quite a yes and no. The counselors that were
- 11:39Speaker 3: opening open to listening have done, and they've taken things
- 11:42Speaker 3: on board. Obviously, those with a very closed mindset you're
- 11:46Speaker 3: never going to reach them anyway. But has it made
- 11:49Speaker 3: a noticeable difference something we could say, yes, we achieved that,
- 11:52Speaker 3: Well not really. That's the thing, getting a counsel to
- 11:56Speaker 3: change course when they are so set in their ways
- 12:00Speaker 3: on where they want to go. It's a bit like
- 12:02Speaker 3: trying to lasso a giant container ship from a rowing boat.
- 12:07Speaker 4: And we're all going and maybe we've budged.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Them quarter to half a degree. I know if we
- 12:14Speaker 3: could get it to a full degree, we can get
- 12:16Speaker 3: them on a completely different course, so you don't have
- 12:18Speaker 3: to do too much. But yeah, it's not easy when
- 12:22Speaker 3: the system is set up one to protect itself and
- 12:25Speaker 3: two they get money for going where the system wants
- 12:29Speaker 3: them to go. Our council tax does virtually nothing. Certainly
- 12:32Speaker 3: in Colchester they only receive between I think it's eleven
- 12:36Speaker 3: and twelve pence out of every pound. The rest goes
- 12:40Speaker 3: to Essex and goodness knows where else, so we are
- 12:43Speaker 3: not their main source of funding. The government is, and
- 12:46Speaker 3: of course if they do X, Y and z they
- 12:48Speaker 3: get more funding and all the popular things like leveling
- 12:51Speaker 3: up and all the green stuff.
- 12:53Speaker 4: You can see why they go to it.
- 12:54Speaker 3: You can see why they don't want any other opinions.
- 12:58Speaker 3: So it is good if you've get them to listen.
- 13:00Speaker 3: But in the first climate emergency in twenty nineteen they
- 13:06Speaker 3: all fifty one of the councilors voted for it. They
- 13:09Speaker 3: had another vote last year and we went in and
- 13:13Speaker 3: did some talks and seventeen voted against it, and they
- 13:17Speaker 3: cited some of the reasons that we've raised with the EVS,
- 13:22Speaker 3: not being ecological and recycling and the whole mining of
- 13:26Speaker 3: it is far worse than anything we're currently doing, so
- 13:30Speaker 3: they took that on board. Now it was all the
- 13:32Speaker 3: Blue team that voted against the ones that are in power.
- 13:35Speaker 4: Whether that was a political.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Thing, I don't know, but we did give them the
- 13:39Speaker 3: ammunition and they did do it, so perhaps we certainly
- 13:43Speaker 3: played a part, and we certainly made it easier for
- 13:46Speaker 3: them to do that vote, and that would never have
- 13:49Speaker 3: happened a year or two ago, so that's one small achievement.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Karina Blesser has been harassing them for a good ten
- 13:59Speaker 3: months on five G fraudulent safety certificates, and after just
- 14:04Speaker 3: months of utter ridiculousness, yesterday she finally got an email
- 14:08Speaker 3: that had a glimmer of hope. They admitted that they
- 14:11Speaker 3: had accepted some certificates that didn't have the right name
- 14:14Speaker 3: on it, but they saw them as not fraudulent, and
- 14:17Speaker 3: they did admit that they can't find the word safe
- 14:20Speaker 3: in any of the documents that we ask for, like
- 14:23Speaker 3: from ICHNERP or World Health Organization. But because we've requested
- 14:28Speaker 3: that the Leader of the Council take back what he
- 14:31Speaker 3: said about five G being safe, because everybody says so,
- 14:36Speaker 3: so we're we've got something, but we need to push
- 14:39Speaker 3: for more because we need that statement retracted. And now
- 14:42Speaker 3: we're going to have to go to offcom to see
- 14:45Speaker 3: if they don't mind the name of a trading name
- 14:48Speaker 3: instead of an actual company on those safety declarations. But
- 14:51Speaker 3: the councils say they're not invalid, and our legal experts
- 14:54Speaker 3: say they are so. With yet more battling, but we've
- 14:57Speaker 3: gained a whole inch with them actually admitting something has
- 15:01Speaker 3: been done wrong, but of course it was never their fault.
- 15:04Speaker 3: You'll find that a lot with counsels. But the main
- 15:07Speaker 3: thing is why did we go Well, you see all
- 15:11Speaker 3: this going on in the world, and you think, well,
- 15:12Speaker 3: I've got to do something. I don't know what to do,
- 15:15Speaker 3: so let's just do something. And I think once you
- 15:18Speaker 3: take that first step, suddenly a bit like Michael Jackson
- 15:23Speaker 3: with those paving slabs suddenly lighting up. You've got to
- 15:26Speaker 3: take that first step, and as soon as it does,
- 15:29Speaker 3: the next step and the next step it becomes obvious.
- 15:32Speaker 3: But what is hard is getting people to take that
- 15:35Speaker 3: first step because nobody really wants to or they just
- 15:38Speaker 3: don't know.
- 15:38Speaker 4: What to do.
- 15:39Speaker 3: And also when people start to wake up and they
- 15:43Speaker 3: realize how bad things are. It is like looking at
- 15:45Speaker 3: an overflowing sewer. They open the door and go ooh.
- 15:49Speaker 4: Oh that's bad.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Someone needs to deal with that, and off they go.
- 15:54Speaker 3: And then another person, oh, yeah, that's really bad. Someone
- 15:59Speaker 3: needs to sort that out, and they're just Everyone keeps
- 16:03Speaker 3: pointing at it, but no one's doing. No one wants
- 16:05Speaker 3: to put the waiders on and the big rubber gloves
- 16:07Speaker 3: and go, Okay, we're going to have to sort this
- 16:09Speaker 3: shit out. No one wants to do that, and that's
- 16:12Speaker 3: part of the problem. But the thing is, this whole country,
- 16:18Speaker 3: whole world is being It's like being in a giant
- 16:21Speaker 3: bus and we're all being driven off a cliff. So
- 16:24Speaker 3: I know this probably doesn't apply to the people in
- 16:26Speaker 3: here because you are clearly action takers. You've put the
- 16:29Speaker 3: effort in to be here. But for a lot of people,
- 16:33Speaker 3: imagine that if you were sitting on an actual bus
- 16:37Speaker 3: and you knew the driver was going to drive it
- 16:39Speaker 3: off the cliff. You've seen the paperwork, you've seen his
- 16:41Speaker 3: contract take off cliff, would you be on social media?
- 16:46Speaker 3: Go when you hear a few rumblings like this new
- 16:49Speaker 3: driver's really rubbish. He's going in completely the wrong direction.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Would you be on Twitter going he's driving the bus
- 16:55Speaker 3: off the cliff as I've been telling you the last
- 16:58Speaker 3: four years, And oh no he isn't. You're just a
- 17:01Speaker 3: conspiracy is theorist. He's definitely driving it off the cliff.
- 17:05Speaker 3: You're an idiot. Would you be spending your time doing
- 17:09Speaker 3: that if you were on an actual bus that was
- 17:11Speaker 3: about to go over I.
- 17:14Speaker 4: Don't think so. I think you'd be on your feet going,
- 17:16Speaker 4: hey's going to drive that bus off that cliff.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Come on.
- 17:21Speaker 3: That's the level of energy and intensity we need to
- 17:26Speaker 3: make change now. We don't need to run around like
- 17:29Speaker 3: a lunatic shouting that, but that energy needs to go
- 17:33Speaker 3: into things because there is so much apathy. As Dr
- 17:36Speaker 3: Malick was saying earlier, people are like, oh what can
- 17:38Speaker 3: I do? Well, just do something. We need to be
- 17:41Speaker 3: getting that steering whill if we can now it might
- 17:45Speaker 3: be a case that the bus does need to go
- 17:47Speaker 3: off the cliff that we have to have a full
- 17:49Speaker 3: complete collapse. Who knows, But if there's an opportunity to
- 17:53Speaker 3: get enough people up and awake and realizing what's going
- 17:56Speaker 3: on and giving some form of action plan. I think
- 18:00Speaker 3: that would be helpful, but there's so much just oh well,
- 18:02Speaker 3: I've said something on social media that'll do well, it
- 18:05Speaker 3: won't it won't do. We get so many people in
- 18:08Speaker 3: the comments saying I love what you do. I couldn't
- 18:11Speaker 3: do what you would do with right behind you, And
- 18:13Speaker 3: it's like, well, that's lovely, I appreciate that, but how
- 18:16Speaker 3: about you come and stand next.
- 18:18Speaker 4: To us, or better still in front of us.
- 18:20Speaker 3: So some of us has been doing this long time,
- 18:23Speaker 3: could have a sit down because there is such a
- 18:25Speaker 3: thing as.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Battle for deig, especially with counsels.
- 18:28Speaker 3: So yeah, it's lovely that people stand behind us, but
- 18:31Speaker 3: really come and stand next to us. And we've got
- 18:34Speaker 3: more people beginning to do that now, beginning to come
- 18:37Speaker 3: along and do their bit. But it is difficult to
- 18:41Speaker 3: get people to take action, and I think part of
- 18:45Speaker 3: that comes down to courage. But also if you look
- 18:49Speaker 3: at the types of people that are awake, and correct
- 18:52Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong on this, but I feel that
- 18:55Speaker 3: it's mostly the quiet people, mostly predominantly people that don't
- 18:59Speaker 3: normally like to get up and make a fuss.
- 19:01Speaker 4: Do you feel that?
- 19:05Speaker 3: So you know it's us and right? Said Fred that's good.
- 19:09Speaker 3: I mean, did you ever have that on your apocalypse?
- 19:11Speaker 4: Bin go card Arson?
- 19:13Speaker 6: Right?
- 19:13Speaker 4: Said Fred? So why why is it us? Why is
- 19:17Speaker 4: it the quiet ones? Predominantly?
- 19:19Speaker 3: Well, I think we do need a calm head because
- 19:23Speaker 3: when the masses do wake up, we've probably been all
- 19:26Speaker 3: through this these the anger, the fear, the what the
- 19:29Speaker 3: hell is going on? But predominantly anger, And if all
- 19:33Speaker 3: that anger comes up in the wrong way, that isn't
- 19:36Speaker 3: going to be beneficial. It's going to be very destructive.
- 19:39Speaker 3: So I don't think we need a revolution this time.
- 19:43Speaker 3: I think we need evolution. And I do think that
- 19:46Speaker 3: is why the quiet ones, the ones that are more grounded,
- 19:49Speaker 3: because when the ship starts to go down, all the
- 19:52Speaker 3: bus starts to go off the cliff, there's gonna.
- 19:53Speaker 4: Be a lot of panics.
- 19:54Speaker 3: So people are going to be turning to the quieter
- 19:56Speaker 3: ones that have been sort of saying all along, look,
- 20:00Speaker 3: this isn't right. But now, although I don't follow any
- 20:06Speaker 3: of the traditional religions, I have no problem with them,
- 20:09Speaker 3: but I just at this moment in time, I don't
- 20:12Speaker 3: feel I want a third party's interpretation. I prefer to
- 20:15Speaker 3: go direct a source. But from my childhood Sunday School.
- 20:20Speaker 3: There was one thing that really stuck in my little
- 20:23Speaker 3: head and has done all through life. I've never forgotten it,
- 20:27Speaker 3: and that was the meek shall inherit the earth. Now,
- 20:30Speaker 3: it didn't land because I was a little kid. It
- 20:32Speaker 3: didn't land in the way I think they meant it.
- 20:34Speaker 3: I think they mean those who follow God, surrender to God,
- 20:38Speaker 3: they'll be saved. But in my little kid head, it was, oh,
- 20:43Speaker 3: the gentle people, you don't have to be a thug,
- 20:46Speaker 3: the gentle ones, and they'll be looked after. That's how
- 20:48Speaker 3: I translated it, and I'm going to stick.
- 20:51Speaker 4: With that one because that does.
- 20:54Speaker 3: It feels true, and all throughout life when things have happened,
- 20:59Speaker 3: my own reaction actions haven't been in this world of
- 21:02Speaker 3: dogg eat dog and brute force wins, I've held onto
- 21:07Speaker 3: that from being a little kid, that yeah, you don't
- 21:10Speaker 3: have to be a thug to win in this world.
- 21:13Speaker 3: So but for this, I thought, well, actually, I've never
- 21:15Speaker 3: looked up what the word meek actually means, so let's
- 21:19Speaker 3: do that. So I looked it up and the Cambridge
- 21:21Speaker 3: Dictionary said, quiet gentle, not willing to argue or express
- 21:25Speaker 3: your opinions in a forceful way. I'm thinking, I don't
- 21:28Speaker 3: think that sounds like me. Miriam Webster was worse deficient
- 21:35Speaker 3: in spirit and courage, So I'm thinking I don't think so.
- 21:41Speaker 3: So I went back to trace the origins of the word,
- 21:44Speaker 3: as one so often has to do these days.
- 21:47Speaker 4: The origin of meek in.
- 21:48Speaker 3: English comes from an old Norse word meaning gentle, though
- 21:52Speaker 3: a fuller understanding comes from the Greek praus, which translates
- 21:56Speaker 3: to strength under control. Aristotle said, a meek person doesn't
- 22:01Speaker 3: shy away from taking a stand. Rather, the stand is
- 22:05Speaker 3: taken at the right time, with the right people, in
- 22:09Speaker 3: the right way.
- 22:10Speaker 4: That's more like it.
- 22:24Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's the thing people, So why aren't people
- 22:29Speaker 3: taking more action? Was it is the apathy? The problem
- 22:31Speaker 3: seems too big. But there's also the baggage that people
- 22:36Speaker 3: are carrying. So imagine again, will take you to a real,
- 22:39Speaker 3: live battlefield, would you be taking all your baggage? So
- 22:44Speaker 3: this case that's full of everything that my parents said,
- 22:47Speaker 3: that's for all the people at school said, oh on
- 22:50Speaker 3: this one, this one is all the things I can't
- 22:54Speaker 3: do is in this one.
- 22:56Speaker 4: And see this giant rucksack on.
- 22:58Speaker 3: My back stretch's virtually to the g that's full of
- 23:01Speaker 3: all the stupid things I've ever done in my life
- 23:03Speaker 3: that I'm not gonna let myself forget. So you're on
- 23:06Speaker 3: the battlefield, you turn up on day on, I'm right,
- 23:08Speaker 3: I'm ready. I can't actually do anything because I'm a
- 23:12Speaker 3: bit weighed down with all my baggage. But god no,
- 23:18Speaker 3: what you do in a battlefield is you take your
- 23:20Speaker 3: wits and you take the essentials you need for that
- 23:24Speaker 3: particular job. Whatever you're doing on that battlefield, you don't
- 23:27Speaker 3: take all your baggage. So you know it is us,
- 23:30Speaker 3: whether we like it or not. So you're gonna have
- 23:33Speaker 3: to let your baggage down. Go just put it down.
- 23:35Speaker 3: You can always come back for it later if need be.
- 23:38Speaker 3: But you know you'll have to do as you are.
- 23:41Speaker 4: You're all we've.
- 23:41Speaker 3: Got, so I don't care if you don't think you're
- 23:44Speaker 3: good enough or adequate enough that you can do anything,
- 23:47Speaker 3: You're gonna have to. And even if you still don't
- 23:51Speaker 3: want to do it now, there will come a point
- 23:54Speaker 3: in this when we all have to do something, so
- 23:58Speaker 3: you might as well do it now.
- 24:00Speaker 4: So you know, there's troubled water, So we've ditched the bus.
- 24:04Speaker 4: We're not going to get on a canoe.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Also, keep up, but we know the rapids are coming
- 24:09Speaker 3: in one form or another, So get in that canoe.
- 24:12Speaker 4: Now.
- 24:12Speaker 3: Yes, the water's a bit choppy, it's a bit troubled,
- 24:16Speaker 3: but you need to learn how to steer that canoe
- 24:18Speaker 3: and how to paddle properly before you get in the rapids.
- 24:21Speaker 3: And there's so many people that are standing on the
- 24:23Speaker 3: bank thinking I'm not going, and that water looks a
- 24:26Speaker 3: bit choppy and there's rapids over here. You wait till
- 24:29Speaker 3: it floods you on the bank. You'll be straight into
- 24:32Speaker 3: those rapids with no canoe and it will engulf you.
- 24:36Speaker 3: So you might as well get going now. So how
- 24:38Speaker 3: does that translate, Well, there might come a day where
- 24:42Speaker 3: an event has happened and everybody in your town or
- 24:45Speaker 3: village is just in a state of shock, and you're
- 24:48Speaker 3: the one that has to round them up in the
- 24:49Speaker 3: village hall and organize them. And you're going to have
- 24:52Speaker 3: to stand up in front of all those people and say, okay,
- 24:54Speaker 3: let's pull our resources. Let's bring all the food to
- 24:56Speaker 3: the village hall. We're cooked meals for the whole community.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Keep this place warm.
- 25:01Speaker 4: We'll get through it.
- 25:02Speaker 3: If you've got no voice, you've never said anything because
- 25:05Speaker 3: you're too shy. That's going to be ten times and
- 25:07Speaker 3: one million times harder because why should they listen to you?
- 25:10Speaker 3: Whereas if you've done a little bit of the work,
- 25:12Speaker 3: you've been in the community, you've spoken to people, you
- 25:15Speaker 3: are a voice to listen to, and you're a calm head.
- 25:19Speaker 3: So that's why it is so important to do this.
- 25:22Speaker 3: But also there are other levels at play here, more.
- 25:25Speaker 4: Than just the physical.
- 25:27Speaker 3: Certainly what Dr Malick was saying in his talk about
- 25:31Speaker 3: the levels of apathy and love. I don't know if
- 25:33Speaker 3: any of you have come across this book by doctor R. Hawkins,
- 25:38Speaker 3: Power Versus Force. Have any of you come across this?
- 25:41Speaker 4: Yes?
- 25:42Speaker 3: I covered it a few weeks back in a video
- 25:44Speaker 3: because it's it could.
- 25:45Speaker 4: Come across as a bit woo woo.
- 25:47Speaker 3: I hid it at the end of the video just
- 25:48Speaker 3: to see how it would get on. So it's halfway
- 25:50Speaker 3: through a video called Afraid to Speak, Power Versus Force.
- 25:55Speaker 3: And in this book, Dr Hawkins uses kinesiology to test
- 26:00Speaker 3: the consciousness levels and he gives them an emotional setting.
- 26:05Speaker 3: So what he found, and they've tested this with lots
- 26:08Speaker 3: of people who can do kinesiology is that all the
- 26:12Speaker 3: levels below two hundred make the body go weak. So
- 26:15Speaker 3: if you're in a state of anger, apathy, fear, grief,
- 26:19Speaker 3: all those emotions that you mentioned, they physically make you
- 26:23Speaker 3: go weak because your body can always tell the difference
- 26:27Speaker 3: between truth and falsehood. So kinesiology is often used, so
- 26:31Speaker 3: it's muscle testing. It's often used to do food allergies.
- 26:34Speaker 3: For example, so they would get an entire audience, they
- 26:37Speaker 3: would give them two envelopes so they couldn't see what
- 26:40Speaker 3: was in it, and one would one envelope would contain sugar,
- 26:43Speaker 3: and the other envelope would contain an artificial sweetener, and
- 26:47Speaker 3: everyone in the room went weak with the artificial sweetener.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Now there'll be other specific things, like some people you
- 26:54Speaker 3: could give milk to their arm, will day strong, others
- 26:57Speaker 3: will go weak. So there's individual truths, but there's also
- 27:00Speaker 3: a big collective truth. And he was talking about the
- 27:02Speaker 3: big collective truth and the level it turns at is
- 27:08Speaker 3: two hundred, and that is the level of courage. So
- 27:13Speaker 3: every time you find some courage, you are affecting the
- 27:18Speaker 3: whole of humanity, that intricate connection that we all have.
- 27:23Speaker 3: For you can probably feel the power and connection in
- 27:25Speaker 3: this room that goes out everywhere. So if you're focusing
- 27:31Speaker 3: at a level of two hundred, I should have booked
- 27:33Speaker 3: marked the page. But basically your level, the higher up
- 27:37Speaker 3: the charts you can go.
- 27:38Speaker 4: So if you can operate from a position of.
- 27:40Speaker 3: Love, that love that you're feeling, that will counteract the
- 27:44Speaker 3: negativity of seven hundred and fifty thousand people. So being
- 27:49Speaker 3: a high vibe, you can see why they're trying to
- 27:50Speaker 3: break us. Mentally, you can see and finding that courage
- 27:55Speaker 3: within you to speak, even if you don't get anywhere
- 27:58Speaker 3: with the speaking falls on deaf is the fact that
- 28:02Speaker 3: you have done it and you've come from a place
- 28:04Speaker 3: of courage that will create that ripple effect. And interestingly,
- 28:09Speaker 3: in here he talks that evil can never win because
- 28:13Speaker 3: it destroys itself, it collapses under its own evil. So
- 28:20Speaker 3: from the level of truth I operate at, I feel
- 28:23Speaker 3: I'm a doer, so I feel we should be doing something.
- 28:26Speaker 3: But maybe someone at a higher level than I'm at
- 28:28Speaker 3: would say no, you could just sit at home and
- 28:30Speaker 3: meditate in a state of love and that will collapse
- 28:34Speaker 3: it And that probably is also true. But I think
- 28:37Speaker 3: you have to go through these stages.
- 28:39Speaker 4: You got to.
- 28:40Speaker 3: You can't run before you can walk, So I think
- 28:42Speaker 3: the doing that brings out the courage in you because
- 28:45Speaker 3: you have to so you've got to get let go
- 28:48Speaker 3: of that baggage and just well there's nobody else.
- 28:51Speaker 4: Oh, I guess it's me then.
- 28:53Speaker 3: And that's how it's gone through with the council watch,
- 28:58Speaker 3: because there is no way in hell I would have
- 29:01Speaker 3: got up and volunteered myself to do that, bloody.
- 29:04Speaker 4: Sheryl said, Rachel, will you do it?
- 29:07Speaker 3: And there I was like oh, And from then it's
- 29:13Speaker 3: who'd have thought that would have happened from one blimming
- 29:15Speaker 3: council meeting and then the clips went.
- 29:18Speaker 4: Viral and then it was like, oh dear.
- 29:20Speaker 3: So for those of you that don't know me, my
- 29:23Speaker 3: default setting is like ninety percent introvert, and even my
- 29:27Speaker 3: ten percent extrovert who I've dragged out on stage today
- 29:30Speaker 3: is fairly antisocial. So this for me is like when
- 29:33Speaker 3: that clip went viral, I was like, oh, when it
- 29:36Speaker 3: got to twenty thousand, people were messaging me, you're right, Rachel, Yeah.
- 29:40Speaker 4: I'm fine, I'm just gonna stop home.
- 29:44Speaker 3: And then it went to two hundred thousand, and then
- 29:49Speaker 3: The next clip went to six million in a weekend.
- 29:55Speaker 3: To this day, I cannot escape my face on blim
- 29:57Speaker 3: in Twitter.
- 29:58Speaker 4: It's still going.
- 30:01Speaker 3: But the way if for the introverts in the audience,
- 30:04Speaker 3: the way you deal with that is you just pretend
- 30:06Speaker 3: it's someone else. Oh no, is that woman again with
- 30:09Speaker 3: my name? I've completely disassociated from that. Trouble is people
- 30:15Speaker 3: started tagging me. Now when it went really viral and
- 30:17Speaker 3: no one tagged me, and I was like, thank you,
- 30:19Speaker 3: thank you, thank you. But now I'm getting tagged and
- 30:23Speaker 3: it's like but anyway, So yeah, we've all got to
- 30:28Speaker 3: do more, basically, and yes that includes the introverts. I'm
- 30:31Speaker 3: terribly sorry, but you are going to have two people
- 30:34Speaker 3: you just are It's okay, it's an emergency and you
- 30:37Speaker 3: can hide afterwards. But people are going to have to
- 30:41Speaker 3: take more of a stand than we're doing.
- 30:45Speaker 4: Else. So yeah, it does feel too big. So what
- 30:49Speaker 4: can we do? Well, I don't know. But what I
- 30:53Speaker 4: will do.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Is tell you about two hypothetical nations who had very
- 30:57Speaker 3: similar circumstances to us. Well, this hypothetical nation where the
- 31:02Speaker 3: people had integrity, they did not tolerate tyranny. Now, they
- 31:07Speaker 3: did have the political parasites and the people that were
- 31:10Speaker 3: trying to destroy their world. But once they woke up
- 31:14Speaker 3: and realized what was going on, they thought to themselves, well,
- 31:19Speaker 3: these politicians, they're really not serving us, so why should
- 31:22Speaker 3: we serve them. So all these politicians they went to
- 31:29Speaker 3: the most expensive restaurants in London, or whole gang of them,
- 31:33Speaker 3: and then the owner came out and said, I'm so sorry,
- 31:36Speaker 3: but my chef, no, he's not going to cook for you,
- 31:39Speaker 3: and neither are all the staff. Sorry about that. I
- 31:44Speaker 3: can make you a sandwich, but I'm a bit busy.
- 31:47Speaker 3: Be about two hours. And then they found this everywhere.
- 31:51Speaker 3: They couldn't get a trades person, They couldn't their wives,
- 31:54Speaker 3: couldn't get the britiques wouldn't serve them. They couldn't get
- 31:57Speaker 3: a haircut, no one would come out.
- 31:59Speaker 4: Even posts and delivery drivers were like not serving you.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Now they had their own little, you know, secret society
- 32:07Speaker 3: clony gang that they.
- 32:09Speaker 4: Could get to do stuff.
- 32:10Speaker 3: But what people did there is if they saw all
- 32:13Speaker 3: these politicians in a restaurant or they saw a trades
- 32:16Speaker 3: person go into that, they go, oh, you're serving them.
- 32:19Speaker 3: So most of the restaurant got up and left so
- 32:23Speaker 3: anyone that served these politicians they couldn't stay in business.
- 32:27Speaker 3: So they had to decide who are they going to
- 32:30Speaker 3: serve And this just went on for everything.
- 32:33Speaker 4: They couldn't get anything, except.
- 32:36Speaker 3: Except in a place called Nottingham, very similar to our Nottingham.
- 32:40Speaker 3: But Nottingham they did serve the politicians. They welcomed them
- 32:44Speaker 3: with open arms. But in Nottingham they had a politician's
- 32:48Speaker 3: tax and they was notified on it's all above board,
- 32:51Speaker 3: it was on their website, it was on the door
- 32:53Speaker 3: that if any politician came in who had done things
- 32:56Speaker 3: that harmed the population, they would be charged ten times
- 33:00Speaker 3: the rate that was printed on the restaurant or whatever
- 33:03Speaker 3: business it was, and anyone with them as well. And
- 33:08Speaker 3: then what they would do with that money is they
- 33:09Speaker 3: would give it to the poor people who'd been ripped
- 33:11Speaker 3: off by the politicians. So yes, politicians could get anything
- 33:16Speaker 3: they wanted, but it was ten times the amount, and yeah,
- 33:20Speaker 3: the community was happy. And again anybody that did serve
- 33:24Speaker 3: them without taking the politicians tax, those businesses would be boycotted.
- 33:32Speaker 3: So this went further than that because they thought, well,
- 33:36Speaker 3: it's the political parties are causing the problems. So what
- 33:40Speaker 3: the people in this hypothetical nation where people had integrity
- 33:43Speaker 3: and they didn't tolerate tyranny. What they decided to do
- 33:46Speaker 3: was approach local people who they thought would be good
- 33:50Speaker 3: in their community to become counselors. So they got them
- 33:53Speaker 3: to run as independents. Now not everybody wanted to do it.
- 33:57Speaker 3: In fact, most people didn't, to be honest, But because
- 34:00Speaker 3: the community had come to them and said I want you,
- 34:04Speaker 3: then they're all right.
- 34:05Speaker 4: Then they was sort of pleased that they'd been asked,
- 34:08Speaker 4: but they said, okay.
- 34:08Speaker 3: I'll do a minimum of year and then you know,
- 34:11Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. So they got a whole load,
- 34:14Speaker 3: but not quite enough to completely get rid of the
- 34:16Speaker 3: political parties.
- 34:18Speaker 4: So what they did there.
- 34:19Speaker 3: Was they the politicians that they thought were good and
- 34:23Speaker 3: the local counselors. They got up a petition going saying,
- 34:27Speaker 3: we like you as a counselor, we know you're good,
- 34:31Speaker 3: but you know you're in a political party. So they
- 34:34Speaker 3: got enough petition signed to show that enough people would
- 34:38Speaker 3: vote for them if they went independent, because that was
- 34:41Speaker 3: the problem. They were worried that if they went out
- 34:43Speaker 3: as an independent, they wouldn't be voted for. So This
- 34:45Speaker 3: gave them the confidence to become an independent and also
- 34:49Speaker 3: they were unhappy with their political parties.
- 34:51Speaker 4: They didn't like how it was going.
- 34:55Speaker 3: So this worked pretty well, and eventually the government had
- 34:59Speaker 3: no control over the councils because they were all independently
- 35:02Speaker 3: run and they wouldn't do as they were told for
- 35:06Speaker 3: eventually the government collapsed. They voted in a new lot
- 35:09Speaker 3: and then, of course everybody was independent. So how do
- 35:13Speaker 3: you have a government where everyone's independent. It took a
- 35:16Speaker 3: lot of head scratching, and in the end they decided
- 35:19Speaker 3: to move the houses of the House of Commons out
- 35:21Speaker 3: of Westminster and they constructed like an antitheater style and
- 35:26Speaker 3: they voted. The people voted for who they wanted to
- 35:29Speaker 3: be Prime minister, and they had to put the name
- 35:32Speaker 3: into a hat in the first place, because a lot
- 35:34Speaker 3: of people didn't want to be an MP alone limited
- 35:36Speaker 3: prime minister. Eventually, after lotchen anagance, they got a cabinet together,
- 35:40Speaker 3: but that cabinet had to sit and then they had
- 35:43Speaker 3: all these people around them in antitheater of the politicians,
- 35:47Speaker 3: so they were held accountable by everybody, and then there
- 35:50Speaker 3: was no teaming up with different sides. It was everybody
- 35:54Speaker 3: serving the people, and anyone that didn't was thoroughly ostracized.
- 35:58Speaker 3: So that's how they controlled it. But at local level
- 36:01Speaker 3: they thought, well, we know the people have integrity and
- 36:05Speaker 3: they won't haul us over the calls for any decision
- 36:07Speaker 3: that is just unpopular. They would only do it if
- 36:09Speaker 3: it actually caused harm. But they were still, as you
- 36:12Speaker 3: can imagine, a bit nervous knowing that they could be
- 36:15Speaker 3: completely ostracized. So what they did is they got a
- 36:18Speaker 3: monthly newsletter together so that the members of the public
- 36:22Speaker 3: they're in their ward, could say, look, I've got a
- 36:25Speaker 3: vote for this. Here are options I think we should
- 36:27Speaker 3: do this. What do you think? So they actually got
- 36:29Speaker 3: the opinions and they could cover their rear because they've
- 36:33Speaker 3: got the bit of paper saying, well, sixty percent wanted
- 36:35Speaker 3: me to do this, so that's what I did.
- 36:37Speaker 4: And they also did the.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Same with council tax, although they scrapped council tax and
- 36:41Speaker 3: it became council contributions.
- 36:44Speaker 4: So they worked out the cost of the.
- 36:47Speaker 3: Most essential services and then they had a list of
- 36:50Speaker 3: we'd like these, so they divid up what it would
- 36:53Speaker 3: cost to pay for just the essential services, and then
- 36:56Speaker 3: if people wanted to contribute extra for the nicies, then
- 37:00Speaker 3: that's what they did.
- 37:00Speaker 4: And there was an open ledger.
- 37:01Speaker 3: You could see who had donated what amount, and you
- 37:04Speaker 3: could see what it was being spent on. And if
- 37:07Speaker 3: people didn't have money, they could volunteer. They could go
- 37:09Speaker 3: to the park and do four hours gardening and keep
- 37:11Speaker 3: it clean. So those unemployed that couldn't afford it, they
- 37:15Speaker 3: had another way.
- 37:15Speaker 4: Of contributing, and everybody did that.
- 37:18Speaker 3: Eventually, once the government got sorted, it pulled in treasury
- 37:21Speaker 3: money and created something like the Bradbury Pound. If you
- 37:24Speaker 3: don't know what the Bradbury Pound is, see the interview
- 37:26Speaker 3: I did with Justin Walker a couple of weeks ago.
- 37:28Speaker 3: That's on the Council Watch channel, and that covers how
- 37:31Speaker 3: you can have debt free money. And they rebuilt their
- 37:34Speaker 3: country that way. Now another hypothetical nation, they left it
- 37:39Speaker 3: a bit late. They didn't realize what was going on
- 37:41Speaker 3: quickly enough and there was a complete financial collapse and
- 37:46Speaker 3: they just had to go over to the central bank
- 37:48Speaker 3: digital currency.
- 37:48Speaker 4: Otherwise it was that or staff.
- 37:50Speaker 3: But they soon realized how enslaved they were so in
- 37:53Speaker 3: that nation.
- 37:54Speaker 4: What they had to do.
- 37:55Speaker 3: They came up with their own promisory notes, and it
- 37:58Speaker 3: was a very simple system on a good.
- 38:00Speaker 4: Old fashioned duplicate book.
- 38:03Speaker 3: So they would say, okay, I promised to pay the
- 38:06Speaker 3: bearer of this note two hours of my professional time,
- 38:09Speaker 3: or three hours of being a dog's body, or twelve
- 38:11Speaker 3: eggs for those that had contraband chickens and.
- 38:15Speaker 4: You know, a boiler service.
- 38:17Speaker 3: It was a bit clunky and people could swap their notes,
- 38:21Speaker 3: but it got them out the system, and it got
- 38:22Speaker 3: stuff done, and it got the community, and eventually, because
- 38:25Speaker 3: so many people were doing it, it sort of caused
- 38:29Speaker 3: a crash with the bigger corporations because no one was
- 38:32Speaker 3: using the central bank digital currency, and again the government
- 38:35Speaker 3: got brought down. But they did it other things like
- 38:38Speaker 3: mass over compliance, not just mass non compliance, a bit
- 38:42Speaker 3: like we might have done here with the chickens, and.
- 38:47Speaker 4: They used all of the crazy rules, like.
- 38:49Speaker 3: For example, they wanted to fill the countryside with these
- 38:51Speaker 3: ugly pylons that nobody wanted. So what they did was
- 38:55Speaker 3: one hundred thousand people would turn up and sit in
- 38:57Speaker 3: that field that they were going to destroy with the pylons,
- 39:01Speaker 3: and the police couldn't move them on unfortunately, because they
- 39:04Speaker 3: all identified as a cow and had to be in
- 39:07Speaker 3: that field because they were protected the vulnerable group, that's it,
- 39:11Speaker 3: and they were protected.
- 39:14Speaker 4: So lots of things like that.
- 39:15Speaker 3: And eventually, yes, they got their towns and cities back
- 39:18Speaker 3: and they rectified it. But a lot of places when
- 39:21Speaker 3: they went over to a treasury money, they kept their
- 39:23Speaker 3: promisory notes because they liked that local bit. In fact,
- 39:27Speaker 3: some of them didn't even bother with the notes. They
- 39:29Speaker 3: would just do stuff for each other. But the community one.
- 39:34Speaker 3: But Sandy Adams, who's here today, she warned me about
- 39:38Speaker 3: something communitarianism, and we've got to be very careful with
- 39:41Speaker 3: that because whenever you form a group that's a community group,
- 39:46Speaker 3: someone tries to infiltrate it and take it off in
- 39:48Speaker 3: another direction. So that's why these smaller groups with people
- 39:51Speaker 3: you know, are more powerful. And then you go in
- 39:55Speaker 3: with the bigger groups when it suits you. And also
- 39:57Speaker 3: there's less arguments because if you're all on the same page,
- 40:00Speaker 3: you just do what that little brute wants to do.
- 40:03Speaker 3: So the communities were very tight knit and that is
- 40:05Speaker 3: what saved the day rather than these infiltrations of No,
- 40:09Speaker 3: the good of the community outweighs your own rights.
- 40:11Speaker 4: No it doesn't.
- 40:12Speaker 3: Don't let anybody ever tell you that, right. So, so
- 40:17Speaker 3: they were of course purely hypothetical nations. But I do
- 40:20Speaker 3: hope it gives you some food for thought. Back to
- 40:26Speaker 3: this one. So in summary, if I can find what
- 40:32Speaker 3: I've done with the summary too many bits of paper, Yes, basically.
- 40:40Speaker 4: They don't run the world. We do.
- 40:44Speaker 3: If you think about it, it's the people in the shops,
- 40:47Speaker 3: it's the people in the fields, it's the people in
- 40:50Speaker 3: the factories, it's the people delivering.
- 40:52Speaker 4: They are merely steering us.
- 40:54Speaker 3: We have an opportunity to steer in a different direction
- 40:57Speaker 3: and that's all it will take. But we all need
- 40:59Speaker 3: to do more, say more, and do it with a
- 41:03Speaker 3: fervor and energy of buses about to go off cliff
- 41:07Speaker 3: rather than Oh, I've got all the time in the
- 41:08Speaker 3: world to get annoyed on Twitter.
- 41:10Speaker 4: That's not doing it. So more people do need to
- 41:13Speaker 4: do stuff.
- 41:13Speaker 3: So consider this the very friendly kick up the backside
- 41:17Speaker 3: that I had. Please pass it on to anyone you
- 41:20Speaker 3: feel needs it and would benefit from it, because this
- 41:25Speaker 3: is I think a group test. I think this is
- 41:27Speaker 3: an evolution of humanity, and we're getting lots of growth
- 41:31Speaker 3: opportunities with the way the world is at this moment
- 41:34Speaker 3: in time, lucky us.
- 41:37Speaker 4: So there we go.
- 41:38Speaker 3: I think that's all I wanted to say. Yeah, all,
- 41:42Speaker 3: that's it. One last thing. Create alternatives. That's what we
- 41:46Speaker 3: need to do. Because you've got a mass population coming
- 41:50Speaker 3: out of an abusive relationship. Unless we give them somewhere
- 41:53Speaker 3: to go to is going to make it very hard.
- 41:56Speaker 3: So start using promisory notes or setting something up locally.
- 42:00Speaker 4: Now, so there's a good alternative.
- 42:02Speaker 3: Because when you've got something good in the world, you
- 42:04Speaker 3: don't have to strong on someone into doing it. People
- 42:07Speaker 3: come to you naturally when what you are doing is
- 42:10Speaker 3: good and wholesome, and people do recognize that, and there
- 42:14Speaker 3: will be a lot of people, even if they're not awake,
- 42:16Speaker 3: awake realizing that this is a better system. So that's
- 42:20Speaker 3: what we must concentrate on, spreading the word and creating alternatives.
- 42:24Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
- 42:42Speaker 1: Very humble and self deprecating, but I think it shines
- 42:45Speaker 1: through very clearly that we see somebody who really is
- 42:50Speaker 1: making a difference, despite their protestations that in actual fact
- 42:54Speaker 1: little has changed. It hasn't A lot has changed, and
- 42:58Speaker 1: I think we all need to remain the analogy of
- 43:01Speaker 1: the lassoo being slung from the rowing boat around the
- 43:06Speaker 1: container ship, because when there are enough people doing that,
- 43:09Speaker 1: it absolutely will change direction and on the various methods
- 43:14Speaker 1: of transport. Of course, we now have renewed confidence of
- 43:17Speaker 1: taking any form of transport anywhere as long as Rachel
- 43:20Speaker 1: is with us. Rachel, that was fantastic, Thank you very much. Indeed,
- 43:27Speaker 1: Rachel Matthews