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6 Incel Traits, 2 New Ways to Fear Men & 1 Man‑Free Society · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: All right, hello everybody, and welcome to Honeybadger Radio. My
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  Speaker 1: name is Brian. I'm here with Alison and this is well,
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  Speaker 1: it's maintaining frame. But I don't know the number because
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  Speaker 1: we're not doing that anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But we can do the number.
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  Speaker 1: We can do the number. I don't know the number.
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  Speaker 1: It's just maintaining frame.
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  Speaker 2: It's whatever number you want it to be.
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  Speaker 1: One, yes, six six in celt rates two new ways
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  Speaker 1: to fear men and one a one man Free Society
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  Speaker 1: and one man Free Society.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a bit of a ton. It is a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a tongue title. Yes, yeah, what loquacious?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, wouldn't that be like elaborate a lot of words?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, loquacious?
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  Speaker 1: All right, do you want We're going to be looking
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  Speaker 1: at a couple of different things today, because you can
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  Speaker 1: see we have this article from the Daily Mail which
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  Speaker 1: is going to be discussing like the traits of ins
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  Speaker 1: l is kind of like describing some kind of rare
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh bymate creature, a rare pokemon, so you
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  Speaker 1: know what you're looking for. Yeah, And then we have
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  Speaker 1: a post from Lisa Brighton, who is a an ally
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  Speaker 1: of ours, one of the one of the good ones.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could say it has been rustling Jimmy's
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  Speaker 1: all over the internet. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: She's quite polite. She's a very polite.
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  Speaker 1: It's a really nice lady.
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  Speaker 2: It's very nice. Not like me. I think that I've
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  Speaker 2: just been doing this maybe too long.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps, And then we have a clip from of an
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  Speaker 1: interview on News Nation with Scott Galloway. If you guys
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Scott Galloway is a professor of n YU
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  Speaker 1: and they basically from the School of Business, so he's
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  Speaker 1: like a business guy and he talks about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: brand strategies and digital marketing. But he was asked about
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  Speaker 1: men and the situation for men, and he had some
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  Speaker 1: things to say about it, which I will save for later,
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  Speaker 1: so you guys will you'll see what where he lands
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  Speaker 1: in terms of men as as productive members of society.
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  Speaker 1: And then we're gonna end end, hopefully on something light
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  Speaker 1: if we have time, which is how to use crystals
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  Speaker 1: to fight the patriarchy. So hopefully you guys will stay
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  Speaker 1: for all of that. But before we that stuff, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to hand it off to Alison to do
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  Speaker 1: the things.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, so if at any point throughout the
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  Speaker 2: show you want to make commentary on the six core
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  Speaker 2: traits of in cells and.
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  Speaker 3: And what.
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  Speaker 2: There are no surprises in this article, I'll just put
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  Speaker 2: it that way, or Lisa bright its dive into feminist insanity,
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  Speaker 2: or Scott Galloways whatever he is presenting. And if you
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, let's get into the first topic, the core traits
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  Speaker 1: of in cells. This was put up by The Daily
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  Speaker 1: Mail's Science Science Weird. Okay, oh, but we're gonna listen
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  Speaker 1: to this, right, We're gonna use yea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the AI reader, so there you go.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's let's look at yeah, the Kamala Harris
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  Speaker 1: robot and have it read the uh read the article. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we we have time codes though so why don't we
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  Speaker 1: just find those they.
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  Speaker 2: Change the background, or are you still enjoying the broccoli
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  Speaker 2: themed vending weird kitchen? Yeah, no, it's like it's like
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  Speaker 2: a breakroom in an office in an avocado show's job.
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  Speaker 2: She's it's a break room in an office in the
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  Speaker 2: avocado toast job. She's having some salad lattes.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. I think
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  Speaker 1: those are like banana peppers on that green and the
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  Speaker 1: green fridge thing. Yeah, it's yeah, it's just it's just weird.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So let's jump ahead to two for the
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  Speaker 1: first uh edgy statement. So we'll just go like right here.
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  Speaker 2: No, actually, no, wait, wait, don't jump do the first bit.
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  Speaker 2: Do the first bit, because we gotta we gotta learn
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  Speaker 2: the right all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, all right, let's get the let's get the Yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'm playing it the.
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  Speaker 4: Core traits of in cells scientists identify characteristic What did.
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  Speaker 2: You speed up the sound?
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  Speaker 1: Did you speed up?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't don't play it at the regular speak.
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  Speaker 1: She's right all right, eating it up.
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  Speaker 4: Indisturbed Women Hating Men by Jonathan Chadwick, Assistant Science and
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  Speaker 4: Technology Editor.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so wait, wait, wait, Six scientists identify six
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  Speaker 1: key characteristics in disturbed women hating men. Not women who
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  Speaker 1: hate men, but men who are women hating. Let me
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  Speaker 1: show you guys that. So you see the context in
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  Speaker 1: disturbed women hating men, because that's what that is. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right? So uh and then she like tells you
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  Speaker 1: who these people are and stuff. But okay, go for.
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 4: Light on in cells and exactly why some men are
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  Speaker 4: more likely to become women hating recluses. Psychologists in Spain
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  Speaker 4: conducted a review of scientific studies about in cells, the
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  Speaker 4: growing online subculture of involuntarily celibates. They identified six key
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  Speaker 4: characteristics among this group.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, okay, credit where credit is due. They
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  Speaker 1: call it a subculture and not a movement.
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  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I mean at least that's at least that's accurate.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think they hate men or women though,
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  Speaker 1: but whatever. All right, so let's now jump to the
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  Speaker 1: first thing.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, keep going. We need to hear the six
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  Speaker 2: core traits.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I thought that. I thought the time codes were
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  Speaker 1: the six core trades.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, all right, okay, you got to understand how
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  Speaker 2: this is structured. You got to understand how this is structured, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna go through the six or strict traits in
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  Speaker 2: a sentence. We're gonna one single sentence, and then we
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  Speaker 2: are going to talk about how in cells hate women.
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  Speaker 4: Ah right, okay, Science and Technology editor, a new study
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  Speaker 4: has shed light on in cells and exactly why some
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  Speaker 4: men are more likely to become women hating recluses. Psychologists
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  Speaker 4: in Spain conducted a review of scientific studies about in cells.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so psychologists in Spain did this, mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: Just for context, Spain is absolutely cooked as a feminist country.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably one of the most feminist countries in the world. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's it's either you know that
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  Speaker 1: South Korea, India. Uh, yeah, it's one of those, Like
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  Speaker 1: they're like the most feminists I know. Spain is absolutely
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  Speaker 1: cooked though, But okay, anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Growing online subculture of involuntarily celibates. They find six key
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  Speaker 4: characteristics among this group loneliness, rejection, low self esteem, limited
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  Speaker 4: social support, and higher rates of anxiety.
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  Speaker 2: And okay, depression, anxiety, low self esteem, no support systems, rejection,
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  Speaker 2: and I do not remember the third one right now, loneliness.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the six core traits of in culs. And
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  Speaker 2: this is the last time we're going to discuss them,
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  Speaker 2: because the rest of this article is about how in
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  Speaker 2: cells are violently hateful towards women. Yeah, they get so
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  Speaker 2: close and yet so far.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't even I don't think it's a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: I think that they just they lay out all out,
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  Speaker 1: here are all the things that they that they're dealing with,
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  Speaker 1: and then the rest of the article is them saying,
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  Speaker 1: and here's why we shouldn't give a shit. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: what the article is, right, It's just like an and
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  Speaker 1: here's why we don't care. And then they lay it
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  Speaker 1: all out like they you know, like it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: like migtal They used to go out there mictaw all
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  Speaker 1: the time, right, mm hmmm. And the thing about Migtao
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  Speaker 1: is they're literally not doing anything. They're not doing anything.
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  Speaker 1: They're just avoiding women, period, avoiding dating. Some of them
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  Speaker 1: aren't even avoiding dating. They might just be avoiding marriage
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, but like they're generally avoiding relationships
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  Speaker 1: with women. And that's a problem for whatever reason, and
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  Speaker 1: they can't explain it. They just don't like the fact
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  Speaker 1: that there are men who are choosing to say no,
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  Speaker 1: and so they're just like doing their own thing. They're
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  Speaker 1: not hurting anybody. They're not like, you know, like leeching
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  Speaker 1: off the government for money. They're not like a drain
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  Speaker 1: on people. They're not becoming like you know, welfare kings
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. They're just working and keeping to themselves.
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  Speaker 1: And they hate that. So it's like, well, what do
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  Speaker 1: you guys want? Well, what they want is for them
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  Speaker 1: to be only and depressed and and you know, unsupported,
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  Speaker 1: but continue to want to be like you know, to
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  Speaker 1: to want to be with women. They don't want them
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  Speaker 1: to want it but not actually get it, which is
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  Speaker 1: kind of where in cells are like they're I think
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  Speaker 1: in cells are in the position they are in because
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  Speaker 1: they do want a relationship. They do want to like
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  Speaker 1: you know, like start a family like any other guy does. Right,
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  Speaker 1: meet someone, get married, start a family. That's what most
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  Speaker 1: men want. And they're like, well, you haven't done it,
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  Speaker 1: so it must be your fault somehow. And if you
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  Speaker 1: because you're not allowed to get embittered about it. You're
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  Speaker 1: not allowed to complain about it. You're not allowed to
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  Speaker 1: you know, and even like try to analyze it or
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  Speaker 1: understand it. Like you can't even like go into say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, evolutionary psychology or or whatever, you know sort
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  Speaker 1: of you know, social dynamics and things like that. Huh.
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  Speaker 6: Actual fact, Yeah, like you're not allowed to do that
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  Speaker 6: because it means you're trying to change something, and then
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  Speaker 6: they want you to stay like miserable and alone and
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  Speaker 6: productive for them, like, oh, we'll go go be a
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  Speaker 6: wage slave for taxation.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's an.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting way to look at it, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: It is though, because yeah, because like they again, no
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  Speaker 1: one is saying that we need like a government to
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  Speaker 1: like assign men a woman. Nobody's saying that. They they
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  Speaker 1: claim this, but nobody's saying that. Even even if there
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  Speaker 1: are guys saying this online, they have no power to
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  Speaker 1: do it. They have like no ability to do it.
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  Speaker 1: So they're just they're just kind of like blowing off steam,
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  Speaker 1: right mm hmm. But these people, they they literally only
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  Speaker 1: want men, and it doesn't matter if they're migtile or
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  Speaker 1: in cells, Like, it doesn't matter if they're they're this
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  Speaker 1: way on purpose or you know because of like limited access,
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  Speaker 1: like they just can't like a lot of cells are
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  Speaker 1: guys with disabilities, you know, they have all Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: have problems, and but they're like no, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to complain, you're not allowed to have
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  Speaker 1: an issue with this. But what we will do is
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  Speaker 1: take your money and redirect it to women through taxation,
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  Speaker 1: which is what they're fine with, you know. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the real that's that's like another thing that I don't
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  Speaker 1: think people like talk about at all. And these articles
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  Speaker 1: exist to essentially say, look, this is a problem, and
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  Speaker 1: these guys are having this problem, but don't look too
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  Speaker 1: closely at it. Fuck those guys, just tell them to
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  Speaker 1: keep paying their taxes and shut up, because we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: give this money to women.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, what's interesting is, like you said, you there's
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  Speaker 2: this dichotomy. So there are men who have see this
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  Speaker 2: current situation and they've just opted out. That that's magtel
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  Speaker 2: And of course the media does not like magtew and
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  Speaker 2: they and again you were right. They were all over
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  Speaker 2: the news for a while. And now there are in
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  Speaker 2: cells the involuntary celibate people who are not in the
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  Speaker 2: same situation as make too because they've make to out,
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  Speaker 2: have made the conscious choice. Men going their own way
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  Speaker 2: they've made the conscious choice to opt out. The in
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  Speaker 2: cells have not. They they want to be part of
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  Speaker 2: the system and they want to have a relationship, and
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  Speaker 2: incidentally they're there. What they're willing to select in a
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  Speaker 2: partner is significantly lower than men who don't identify as insuls,
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  Speaker 2: so they don't actually have higher standards. In fact, one
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  Speaker 2: of the markers of being an inceel is that you
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  Speaker 2: have lower standards than average in a potential female partner,
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  Speaker 2: but you're still not making that. So they want to
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  Speaker 2: be part of the system. They want to have a
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  Speaker 2: female partner, but it's not happening for them. So if
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  Speaker 2: if you think about it, there's no position that men
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  Speaker 2: can occupy that's acceptable. Well I could just leave it
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  Speaker 2: at that.
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  Speaker 1: There's no position, and you know and tax mule. That's
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  Speaker 1: basically it. And it's thankless, like it's like there's no
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  Speaker 1: like appreciation for that, it's just expectation.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, but again, this is the last time that
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  Speaker 2: there I believe that this article ever mentions or no,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't mention it again, but it's there's no discussion
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  Speaker 2: of it, like, well, how do we deal with the loneliness,
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  Speaker 2: how do we deal with the mental health issues, the
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  Speaker 2: depression and anxiety, the feelings of rejection. What do we
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  Speaker 2: do that's proactive to to help these men if they're
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  Speaker 2: having these issues with this kind of this thinking which
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  Speaker 2: is negative, right, the negative spirals, And there's nothing. There's
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  Speaker 2: just immediate pivot to how these men are dangerous to
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  Speaker 2: women and basically why we shouldn't care. And I just
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  Speaker 2: was like, that is so astounding that there isn't even
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  Speaker 2: a buffer. There isn't even an attempt to, uh say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they have these issues and we probably should do something
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  Speaker 2: about it. But the truth is that they're probably rejected
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  Speaker 2: because they're rejected. You know that circular reasoning that in
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  Speaker 2: cells are rejected because they have a negative attitude towards women.
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  Speaker 2: Except their negative attitude towards women came about because they
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  Speaker 2: were rejected. So it just goes right into that unless
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  Speaker 2: you know, don't take my word for it. Let's listen
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  Speaker 2: to the first time code.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go out of the first time
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  Speaker 1: code at two minutes thirty to two seconds. And you
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  Speaker 1: know I said this before, like in cell is not
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  Speaker 1: like a new phenomenon. There's always been like a segment
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  Speaker 1: of the population that just gets you know, they just
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  Speaker 1: don't find anybody and they and they usually find another
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  Speaker 1: way to you know, have a purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Ah.
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  Speaker 1: But they're treating this like this is some kind of
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  Speaker 1: new thing, you know, so like the reproductive or the Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the reproductive bottleneck is real and it exists and it happens.
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  Speaker 4: But any women violence in cells claim to be rejected
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  Speaker 4: because they are unattractive, have mental health problems anxiety depression,
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  Speaker 4: are neurodivergent autism, or are socially in it. Young men
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  Speaker 4: and boys who identify as part of the in cell
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  Speaker 4: subculture regard sex as a transactional act, devoid of emotional ties,
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  Speaker 4: but also as a fundamental right.
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  Speaker 2: That is, okay, this is incorrect. And what do you
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  Speaker 2: mean by a fundamental right? Can people be upset about
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  Speaker 2: not getting something without saying that they're entitled? Like do
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  Speaker 2: you mean that if somebody doesn't get something and they
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  Speaker 2: feel upset about it, that means that they're automatically entitled.
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  Speaker 2: So anyone who are who is upset about never getting
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  Speaker 2: a house while you just feel entitled, in fact, you're
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  Speaker 2: equivalent to someone who would steal a house. You know,
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  Speaker 2: people who are upset at the price of food. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you're just entitled and you're equivalent to somebody who would
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  Speaker 2: steal food. Like, do you see this the logic here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I do. It's it's like I said,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's poisoning the well on purpose. Yeah. Because again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like anybody who just says, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wish I blame doesn't matter, I wish I could have this,
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  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you feel entitled to that. Huh, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to like force the government to like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have the government force people to give that to you.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's projection, because I'm pretty sure it was.
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  Speaker 1: It's women that want things like free healthcare, free birth control,
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  Speaker 1: free abortions, you know, free housing. They want a Lamborghini.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they voted for Zora Mandani because he's going
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  Speaker 1: to give everybody Lamborghinis. So yeah, you guys are totally projecting.
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  Speaker 1: I think that in general, most most people who I
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  Speaker 1: guess we would classify as in cells or just like
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  Speaker 1: guys that are are dealing with unrequited love or you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: they're lonely. They want to earn a relationship. They don't
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: want to be given something. They want to feel like
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: they did it because if you were assigned, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: a woman like for example, hypothetically speaking, you would spend
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: your whole life thinking like, does she even care about me?
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Or is she doing this because she has to? Like
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it makes it makes no
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: logical sense. I think in general, people want to be wanted,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you know, they want to feel desired. They don't want
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to just have It's just ridiculous. But anyway is that
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: let me see the And it's.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Also inconsistent with what they said at the beginning. So
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: feeling rejected I social isolation, depression, anxiety, low self esteem,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and then the sixth one that I'll probably always forget.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: But these are not the emotional expressions of someone who
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: feels entitled. Like someone who feels entitled doesn't care about
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: being rejected to what they're by, by what they're entitled to,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Like they don't internalize it. It's something offensive and anger inducing,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and yes they get angry, but it's a different thing
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: if you think about it, Like, if you genuinely feel
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: entitled to something, you're not going to feel rejected when
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you don't get it right for an emotion entirely And yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: sure you can feel resentment and anger, but it's not
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: like it's not going to have that component of rejection.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: It's not going to have that component of anxiety and
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: depression and feeling socially isolated like this is. And to
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: say that it's all transactional, that they want a transactional relationship, well,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: a transactional relationship doesn't come with the emotions that would
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: resolve depression, anxiety, loneliness, feelings of rejection, and social isolation.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So what are you even talking about? Why would they
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: be feeling these things if all they want is a transaction,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: is what I'm getting at. They wouldn't be They would
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: only feel these things if they want a genuine connection
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: and they feel that that connection affirms their human worth. Okay,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Like they're completely flattening this situation, and you're right, they're
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: poisoning the well because you again, I want to dismiss
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: this is this is more of this is somebody else's problem. Field.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: They're applying to somebody else's problem. You know that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Well, there's I think there's another reason they're doing this too.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I think the real reason for the article is actually
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: not to do with in cells at all. I think
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: it's to defend something to protect something, something that's losing,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that's losing the pr war a lot lately. And I
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: think they're going to give it away right up here,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: because I want you to well, well, listen to the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: next the next time code, and then you let me
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: know what is actually at stake in this article, but.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Also as a fundamental right that is denied to them
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: as a result of feminism and female empowerment in cells
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: blame women for their inability to have relationships, and some
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: even contend that the denial of sex by women is
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: a punishable crime.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they don't say that, but let's see that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: there's maybe is there is there like a source source question?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: No, No, this is all just Oh, this is a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: vulnerable population. Well, let's spit on them. Let let us
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: let's make them look, let's demonize them, let's turn them,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: let's show how criminal they are so we don't have
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to care. That's that. You're right, it's just. And also
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: we're gonna defend feminism, even though feminism stated aim in
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: many instances was to destroy the family. Well, guess what
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: happens that leaves a whole bunch of men shit out
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: of luck, disenfranchised, through no fault of their own, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: simply because the overwhelming social narrative is positions relationships is
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: something toxic to women and men, as something no sane
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: woman would choose to have in her life. Okay, so
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: that basically we have created action like what they did
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: with the black communit they out competed black men in
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: their own families. The government out competed black men in
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: their own families, disenfranchised black men in their own families.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: And we can't talk about that because it's sexist, even
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: though it's if you think about it, it is actually
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that is institutional racism. But anyway, they out competed black
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: men in their families. Black men were destroyed and now
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and then they also promoted this attitude for everyone that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: it is bad for a woman to have a man,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: that he is dangerous, that he is useless, that he
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: is lazy, that he is a net drain on her.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: All of this feminist rhetoric is overwhelming. It's not a
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: trillion dollar narrative, guys. It probably moves about a trillion
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: dollars of mostly government money, tax payer money, or loss
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: of purchasing power in terms of you know, every time
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: you go to the grocery store and eggs cost fifty bucks.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: A dozen eggs cost. Think about the government programs you
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: are financing, because they can just they don't print money.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: What they do is they create another treasury, which is
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a giant packet of government debt, puts more money into
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the economy, which inflates the whole, the whole thing. So
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: you are paying that through your increased the price points
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: in the grocery store. You're paying that through taxes. You're
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: paying that through sales tax paying into this, paying into
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: a narrative that men are awful people like. And that's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the most egregious part. Men are paying for their own
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: destruction in this system. They're literally freaking paying for it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Well, they're having their money taken from them and then
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it's being repurposed to destroy them. Yes, yes, to destroy
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: forced to pay for their own destruction, to.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Destroy their self self worth, and destroy their opportunities in
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: terms of having families and relationships. It's unfreaking belief. It
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: is an injustice, an tremendous injustice, and in and in
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: cells are a victim of it. In other times and periods,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: these men would have partners and it wouldn't just because
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: of arranged marriage. It would be because it would.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Be Alison dropped. Alison dropped out of the call. Hopefully
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: she figures it out and comes right back. Let me see.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Uh so while waiting for Alson to come back, Oh
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: there she is. What happened void cat? That's what I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: thought I saw like the camera was starting to like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: get shut her a little bit. Okay, so this one,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that's okay you.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Camera, Okay, all right, I'm going to squeeze squish that cat. Squish,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna squish you. You're not getting more food, Okay.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: As I was saying before, I was so rudely interrupted.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Trying to take a screenshot of the cat and give
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it glowing eyes. Go ahead, just take a screen cap
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and then put a glowing eyefilter on it and then
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: might like release me or something at the bottom. But okay,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: go ahead, finish your comment.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Something out, all right. The rhetoric around this is that
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: women had to they had to have husbands because in
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: order to take care of themselves, which is no, you're
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: not no, no, okay, which is nonsense. All right. First
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: of all, there was a much stronger social expectation that
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: relatives take care of any unmarried woman. Right, So if
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you were unmarried, you would be living with your father,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: with your brothers, with your uncles, you'd probably have a ward,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you would be taken care of, so you didn't automatically
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: have to get married to get taken care of. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: here's the other thing. Women brought dowries, they brought money,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and they often brought some form of labor into the marriage.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't a situation where there wasn't actually also
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: dependency the other way. Men were dependent on women's labor.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: That's why they got married. It was like a mutual
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: economic exchange, hopefully with some friendly affection at some point.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: That's the way it worked. So it was never a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: situation where women were asymmetrically reliant on men. Men and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: women were reliant on each other economically, and they came
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: together and they formed partnerships. And in those eras, these
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: men wouldn't have been disenfranchised, right, they would either have
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: gotten married or maybe they would have ended up in
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a monastery, okay, going into the priesthood, or maybe.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: The universe becoming you know, philosophers or scientists are committing themselves.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: To some Yeah exactly, Yeah, so I mean, it's it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: the situation is because we have failed men and we've
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: made them pay for that, which is just.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Just astounding to me. It's astounding to me that we
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: that taxpayers pay for this, They pay for these narratives,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: and you know who benefits. There's only one group of well,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: two groups of people who benefit from this. Feminists and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: divorce lawyers, the two most wonderful group of groups of
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: people in our society. Every Oh, aren't we all happy
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that we are making feminists and divorce lawyers rich? Okay,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So there's a little bit more of this. But but
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: ultimately I think this video disc Yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And the Democratic Party, because.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: They are in the I think that, uh yeah, somewhat,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: But I think it's mostly what you said. It's it's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: feminist activists, it's the academics, it's the people in media
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you know that all push this stuff. People force lawyers,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and and also you know, corporations, they get to, you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: sell twice as much junk to people. So but okay,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: let's uh. I just wanted to point out that ultimately
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: this article is about defending feminism because feminism itself is
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: becoming less and less popular. It's still like ubiquitous. Don't
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: get me wrong. I'm not pretending like it's over, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: it's if it starts to show a little bit of
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: like chinks in the armor, then you know that that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: like really happening, because these articles come out and they're
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: like trying to like, look, if you don't have feminism,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: men are gonna throw you in chains, men are going
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to change the change the to the stove. You're gonna
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: be turned into breeding, you know, uh, like breeding chattel again,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: which of course never happened. But it's all this scary stuff,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: and in cells are part of that. They're scary because
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you know they might just blow up one day and
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: shoot up a school. Oh my god. Right, and this
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: so this is what they're doing, is they're saying, you
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: need us, so you have to keep supporting us. That's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: ultimately all this is. But okay, we got forty five
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: seconds left or no half thirty seconds left in this clip,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: so let's finish it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Bloody as a normal or preferred sexual orientation, and that
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: only men who conform to heteronormative standards of masculinity such
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: as strength, aggression, and emotional stoicism are considered attractive.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Is it okay for me to say that heterosexuality is normal?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Like it is? Okay, like it is? It's normal? Is that? Okay?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I don't have anything against you if you're gay, But
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: if you are gay and you're watching this, can you
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: also just like co sign is? Is it not the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: case a heterosexuality is normal? It's like the reason why
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you're here? Can we just because they're just I don't
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: know what this is about, but it's just factually untrue. Okay,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: So let's let me know. Is there something wrong with that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: think it's It's not a value judgment. It's just a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: statement of fact. Okay, here because of sexual homosexual homosexual
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: we're here because of heterosexuality.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Okay. I just want you this is something that really
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: occurred to me when she said that insults feel like
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: they're entitled to sex. Well, I'm not. I am pro choice. However,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I want to point something out. The argument, first of all,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: that it should be government funded or available anywhere that
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: people don't necessarily the locals don't necessarily want to have
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it is predicated on the idea that people women are
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: entitled to sex for entertainment? Yeah, are you really? Are
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you really entitled to sex for entertainment? Like, are you
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: are you? Like, if you think your birth control should
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: be paid for, are you entitled to have other people
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: pay for the fact that you're using sex as a
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: form of entertainment? And incidentally, I noticed that not only
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: do women say that they need birth control their birth
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: control paid for so that they can use sex as
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a form of entertainment, they also say that sex is
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a terrible form of entertainment, which is really interesting. So
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: all of these arguments that women are owed birth control
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: by virtue of you know, should be taken out of
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the taxes are based on this idea that access to
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: sex is.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: A right right now?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, Like, what's what's the difference?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Somebody? Uh, I gonna read this? This is funny. So
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: fl Tourists says Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble were both
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: in cells. So I gotta I gotta disagree with you
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: on that. Obviously you're probably joking because Fred totally got
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Wilma pregnant. That's where pebbles came from, and you could see,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like for a while on the show, Wilma was like
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: carrying the baby. So Fred obviously did that, and Barney
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and Betty they didn't have a kid. They ended up
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: adopting one that was bam bam. But they were trying,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: because they would say so they were. They were saying,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: we were trying to have a baby and we can't
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have one. So that means that Barney was hitting it
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: like constantly and it just didn't didn't work out for them,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: but they did get a kid eventually. So no, not
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: at all. Those are your ancestors. If it weren't for
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Fred and Barney, you wouldn't be here. I'm just saying
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the ancient peoples, all right. Anyway, So Fred was getting
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: it and Barney was two. Okay, all right anyway, So
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: that was the The other thing too, is they they
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: it's weird that they like talk about head sexuality, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: it's like weird that it's normal. And then they go
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: into heteronormative standards of masculinity. This is how they describe them,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: such as strength, aggression, and emotional stoicism. So apparently there
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: are no gay men who are strong, aggressive or emotionally
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: stoic because that's a heteronormative trait. Have you seen they're
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: doing with this like sleight of hand, where first they say, well,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: here are these traits that are considered masculine that are bad,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: and then they say they're not masculine traits, they're heteronormative traits,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: which means a gay man can't have these traits either,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: because that would still be bad even if he's gay.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So you understand that what they're attacking isn't heterosexuality, but
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: they're using this like, let's say, this alternative way of
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: looking at sexuality itself. So like for most of our
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: time here on earth, for most of human history, like
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent, heterosexuality was the norm, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: it was a standard. It wasn't something that was a measure.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: It was simply human behavior just playing out its, you know,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: instincts biologically, and that was just how we lived, That
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: was how we reproduce, and that was just how things were.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: And then of some of what caused that was like
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you know, the the how dimorphic our species is, so
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: men being men generally having you know, like traits that
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: were more not that there was like one or the other,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: but because you know, obviously there were men who have
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: feminine traits, we would consider to be feminine, and there
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: are women who would have traits that we would consider
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to be masculine, but there are overall, there are enough
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: divertences due to biological differences, evolutionary differences, and sexual selection differences.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Like women were choosing men to have babies with based
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: on certain traits that they liked in them, and then
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: they carry those traits onto their next to their kids,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and then so on. Right, and we have gotten now
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to the point where they're trying to dismantle masculinity itself
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: by calling it toxic and now heteronormative. But the attack
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: is on masculinity full stop. It's just what it is.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And of course they have a specific definition for that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: But if women display this, which you know in those
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Girl Boss movies and stuff, if they display strength, aggression,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and stoicism, that's totally fine. Because women, when they display
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: masculine traits, it's not masculine anymore, you know. And it's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: which means it's not negative anymore. It's positive. Now you
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: see what I'm saying.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Killing traits that they say are masculine are totally distorted.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: So women don't actually show protectiveness provision towards men when
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: they're vulnerable or.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: In a fantasy sense. What I mean is like when
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: they see it in like there, like when you see
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: it represented in fiction not reality. But I mean, you
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like when yeah, yeah.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, what I'm saying is that they use they
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: they basically say that masculinity is all of these toxic
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: traits like contempt for others, dominance, aggression, being very you know,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: angry at slights, and willing to fight at the drop
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: of a hat. They don't say that masculinity is honor,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the ability to take risks, the desire to protect and
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: provide for others. So they don't embody those traits. These
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: these boss tapes. They they don't protect or provide for
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: men or children or whatever. They just are aggressive and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: nasty and undermining to the men around them. And they
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: they so that they're not just distorting, not just telling
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: women to be masculine, they're distorting what masculinity is. But
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: then when women embody this distorted toxic traits and it's
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: not toxically masculine traits, they're just toxic traits, then they say, oh,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: that's empowerment. So it's like multiple layers of distortion, going
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: on a Russian doll of distortion. Absolutely.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about reframing everything as like always men
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: always bad, women always victims or good. So all right,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: let's continue.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: System is the eighty twentieth principle, the belief that eighty
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: percent of women are attracted to twenty percent of men,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: the core feelings that can drive males to in seldom.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Just it's true, it's observable, it's an observable phenomenon, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: it might be not necessarily driven biologically.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Like I said, maybe we can stop having the tax
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: payers pay for this narrative. Yeah, just see what happens.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: You know, Like I've had a feminist recently who was
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: arguing with me, and she she said, you want to
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: force men to women to marry men. I'm like, no,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: why don't we just start by defunding all of these
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: projects into destroying the relationship between men and women, by
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: making out making men out to be toxic to women
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: and toxic to society. Why don't we just stop that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a tall order since it's
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: like a trillion dollar industry, But you know, we could
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: stop that and see see if things improve. Stop picking
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: at it. Maybe it'll heal, you know, but no, she
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: has a right to Oh you want to force, No, no,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: just stop stop forcing the other thing. See what happens,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: you know, And yeah, okay.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: All right, next time code it's right here.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: So loneliness to rejection. Oh they did repeat it steam
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: for limited social support five, anxiety six depression. The study
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: also explains the terminology in cells use a cant to
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: speaking in an exclusive.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: You would think that you would think that at that
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: point you would segue into describing some of the effects
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: of these things, how they manifest, maybe some solutions, But no,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: we're just going to pivot back into they are the threat.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I just want to point out that the things that
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: in cells are are the exact opposite of what feminism
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: says toxic masculinity is.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's because again it's not about it, it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: not about anything but demonizing men, no matter what stage
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: of life they're in, no matter what their what their personality.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: So like, if you are successful with women, then you're
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a bad person who hates women somehow. So like, you know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: if you're like, uh, you don't have to compare you
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to Andrew Tate. Just like a guy who's successful with women,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Like you're doing well, you're looks maxing, you're you're getting
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: dates and you're like, you know, spinning plates and all
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: of that. Oh you because they hate the PUAs too, right,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: so they'll be like, oh, you guys hate women because
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you use them and take advantage of them or whatever
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: it is. So if you're successful with women, it's bad.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: If you are uninterested in women like a migtow, it's bad.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: And if you're unable to get with women, it's bad,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like you're an insult. And if you're just like trying
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: to like you know, you're not even concerned with women's
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: issues and instead you're basically choosing to focus on men's
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: issues like an mra. Guess what, it's bad. No matter what,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: there is no like you can't really basically the bus,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Like there is no form of masculinity that works. Even
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: if you're a gay man. Guess what you are the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: straight white men of gay people of the LGBTQ community,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: because you're still super privileged, so you deserve nothing.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so I do have somebody to thank you
• 42:05
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• 42:09
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• 42:13
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• 42:22
  Speaker 2: very much appreciated. It's me Mario, I should who thank you.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you for making that less awkward, Brian. Okay, and again,
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• 42:55
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's keep going.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Public. Don't generally understand it. Women are commonly referred to
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: as animals, as dangerous and dirty as pigs, cattle, snakes,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: and insects, food, roast, beef, inanimate objects.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: No, well, roast these is something else. I think what's
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: a roasty anyway? No, I think roast beef is what
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: they're saying, you know, because they well, it's a it's
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit lewde but it's funny. But like, so,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: what when women do this to men? All the time,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: like you can actually like men do care whatever.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hunk stud, those are those are actually the hunk
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: of me stud No shud hut shud.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I mean derogatory things.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: We're deep into double standard territory. Brian, you can't bring
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: this stuff up, but actually I will bring it up.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: So there's been recent research on misogyny and miss indry
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: in extremist reddit communities. Actually, I think extremist communities period.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: A key study recently addressed the balance between misogyny, hatred
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: of prejudice against women and miss indry hatred of presidents
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: prejudice against men in online extremist spaces is titled Women
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Who Hate Men, A Comparative Analysis across Extremist Reddit Communities,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: published in Scientific Reports April twenty one, twenty twenty five.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: The peer reviewed paper, authored by researchers including those from
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the University of Bologna and other institutions, provides empirical evidence
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: suggesting that these forms of gendered hate speech are structurally
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: and linguistically comparable in intensity within such communities. Get this, guys,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: an extremist gender based communities. The hatred is fairly comparable,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: although I would question that slightly study overview and methodology. Okay,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: we don't need to go into that. The study posed
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: three research questions. Are there systemic differences and perspectives male
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: to female versus female to male hate. Is misogyny more
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: prevalent than miss inondry? Is gendered hate speech tied to
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the community's dominant gender, or is it a broader feature
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: of extremism? Key findings evidence of equivalence. The results indicate
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: no systemic discrepancies between misogynistic and misinterist communities across the
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: analyzed dimensions. This implies that both forms of hate operate
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: at comparable levels in terms of expressions, emotional intensity, and
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: structural reinforcement. However, this is good. It's a nice start. However,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: there is a confound that these scientists didn't address. They
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: conflate hatred of feminism with hatred of women, all right,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and that is going to distort their results. However, it's
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: a good step. Linguistic and toxicity level levels, both sets
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: of communities showed bimodal distributions and toxicity scores, meaning a
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: mix of mild and extreme content. However, misogynistic communities end
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: slightly higher in overall toxicity. But this was not statistically
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: significant enough to suggest overrepresentation. Common themes include victimhood narratives,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: with terms like misdry used in misogynist spaces to frame
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: feminism as anti male see what I'm saying, mirroring how
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: misogyny is invoked in misinterest ones. Emotional analysis, emotions such
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: as anger and disgust were equally prevalent, reinforcing echo chambers
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: in both directions. For an instant, fear of the opposite
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: gender was a shared motif driving isolationist ideologies. Network structures
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: interaction graphs revealed closed triads of extreme users in all communities,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: indicating that hates spread similarly regardless of gender focus. This
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: supports the view that extremism, not gender, is the core driver.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: The authors conclude, in addressing the phenomenon online gendered hate speech,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: both male to female and female to male perspectives should
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: be taken into account, thus recognizing equal importance to both
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: misondry and misogyny. They emphasized that missiondry, often understudied compared
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: to misogyny, warrants equal scrutiny to combat online toxicity. Toxicity holistically, well, unfortunately,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: there's a huge like that. I can just see these researchers,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: you know, doing this stuff in the little corner. Meanwhile,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: the gigantic monster looks of feminism, feminist academia looks on
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: just waiting for the moment to cancel them, you know.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: And it's like this is this is a good start,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: but you have to realize that miss injury is entrenched.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Feminism is miss injury. It pretends like it has an excuse,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: but it has never proven its core premisses. There's no
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: neutral science that has ever proven feminist core premise. So
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: it remains a premise that was simply assumed and then
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: everything else was buttressed off of that. And that premis
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: is horrifiedly anti mail, the idea that men oppressed women,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: horrifyingly anti male, and never proven. That's that, folks. It
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: is not something in fact, it's this syllopsistically proven. What
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: happened is feminists made that decision. They basically enshrined misonry
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: into their beliefs about society. Blaming an entire group of
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: people would be considered racism, anti semitism, something ism in
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: any other context. Saying that an entire group of people
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: is responsible for an invisible, in system systemic oppression of
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: your group would be very suspect as a conspiracy in
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: any other context. And then a saying that somehow this
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: is a result of socialization, not the biogroup that they're
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: part of, would never fly in any other context because
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: feminists have never explained how it is that every man
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: on earth is socialized the exact same way across ethnic, cultural, national, religious,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: and honestly, considering the behaviors that they're saying are socialized
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: species grounds like across species. This is a cultural socialization
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: that crosses species, right, and they have never explained how
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that happens because there is no explanation. There is no
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: possible explanation for how all human beings are socialized to
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: the same all men are socialized to the same thing.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: There's no explanation. The only way that socialization really comes
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: in is that feminists assert that men can be socialized
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: out of it. There's some sort of weird, ubiquitous X
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: factor that's one to one with every man on the planet,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: but feminists can socialize them out of it. But it's
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: not biological bullshit. So all of these factors mean that
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: feminism is utterly illegiti as a concept, as an academic concept,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: as an intellectual concept as a political concept, as a
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: moral concept, it has no grounds for legitimacy, and it
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: is directed at all men in our society. Okay, our
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: society is inherently misangerous. And until these researchers step out,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: they're they're fish. They got to get onto land, they
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: will never true understand the true extent of the ocean.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: All right, okay. Implications of broader contexts. These findings challenge
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: narratives that downplay myssonry is negligible, highlighting how both amplify
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: division in extremist spaces. Okay, but you gotta go, You
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: gotta now. Turn that lens on feminist academia, academia and
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: its influence on law and policy, on NGOs, on government
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: shadow budgets. The study notes of publication bias. Scopist data
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: shows far more papers on online misogyny, underscoring the need
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: for balanced research. Okay, all right, let's continue.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: All right, let's continue.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Sperm containers and androids cyborgs or humanoids in cells use
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: the term femoids female humanoids to dehumanize them by turning
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: them into a subhuman on which to legitimately apply violence.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: The study authors.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Explain, uh no, I think they're just I mean, look,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: they're angry, they're frustrated. I get it, But I don't
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: think that they're looking for a reason to apply violence
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: by changing like the language. But it's interesting that you
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: point that out. So, like, what happens when you call
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: people Nazis for ten years? Does that? Does? Could that
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: maybe result in violence? I mean, nobody likes Nazis? Maybe
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: we can do something about it. What does that look like?
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: What happens when you call people like misogynists for ten
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: years that they hate women and they want to raise
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: them and kill them and turn them in a slave.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think that maybe someone might try to do
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: something about it?
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Someone can any consequences for that?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Or I mean some might actually just get angry at
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the people who are saying it. She's how how unbelievably unsupportable.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I'm been being abused and I feel some anger towards
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: those of that abuse misogynist Yeah, okay, so I have
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: here actually some extra stuff. I might not be able
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: to go through all of it, but I'm going to
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: do a shout out to therapy Snack, which you can
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: find on stubs Stack, and one of the things that
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: he proposes looking at it because he's been looking at
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: the day. But he's a criminology student, and so he
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: looked at this this data, and he said this. The
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: clearest and most consistent finding is the nearly universal experience
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: of abuse and bullying among in cells, particularly in the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: social context. While further research in this area is certainly required,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: this finding becomes rather instructive when assessing underlying theory and explanation,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: and would it generally appear to explain, at least in part,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: pathways to insul them. One of the most notable aspects
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: of the in cell movement, however, is group heterogenetic heterogeneity.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Analysis of the in cell community has found a clustering
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: of traits. So there's a bunch of different groups within
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: the in the in cell community. This group heterogenetic heterogene
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: genin this this multitude of people or different types of
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: people presents regarding in cells who have committed vast violence.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Whereas where wherein they appear to be notably situated in
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: the externalizer category. Okay, so what it means is they
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: externalize their problems. A lot of in cells internalize them.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: So there's an alternate theory for where in cell violence
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: comes from reviewing. There has been an implicit assumption that
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: the causal agent aspect of insull violence is gendered in nature.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: In some sense, such a conclusion is rhetorically obvious given
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: the social scripting. However, there are some notable issues with
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: this approach when a more detailed analysis is undertaken. Firstly,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: in cell violence is incredibly rare, despite what might think
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: what might expect from a movement that is frequently assessed
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: as having pervasive misogyny steeped in toxic grievance. The subversion
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: of expectations regarding conversion to lethal violence against others has
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: impacted more than the political radicalization arguments with theories and
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: evolutionary psychology, namely the young male hypothesis, similarly predicting violence
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: spikes in such a population, leading to the offering of
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: a sedated male hypothesis to explain the suppression of predicted violence.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: So essentially, what they're saying is that science would predict
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: that this population would be vastly more violent than they are,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: so because they aren't, then they had to propose a
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: counter like a little epist cycle to explain this, which
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: is male sedation hypothesis, which is that society sedates in
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: cells with pornography and games. However, while the evolutionary psychology
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: approach is certainly reflexive of a more biologically coherent and
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: grounded theoretical malu, on its own, it appears to have
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: yet to be fully integrated into the wider mass violence
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: phenomenon to which in cell violence is frequently evoked. So
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: when we talk about the wider mass violence phenomenon, we're
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: talking about other groups where young men who do not
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: have romantic prospects engage in political violence in order to
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: advance an ideology. Often these young men are called martyrs,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: or they may be in other groups in which they
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: engage in violence against their political opponents. Might even argue
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: that society itself has a very very powerful track record
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: in mobilizing disenfranchised young men to do violence in order
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: to solve its political quandaries. So the biggest radicalizer of
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: young men, if you're going to call radicalizations basically saying hey,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: you go kill people because you'll be a good person
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: in our eyes, is society itself, which is probably why
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: we're not seeing a lot of real insight into this problem. Furthermore,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: despite the young modifier on both theories. At least some
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: larger data sets, the median and a offense and the
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: in cell population exceeds that of the general homicide population. Okay,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: so this is just some more information. Furthermore, in cell
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: violence is conducted by offenders without long histories of violent
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: crime and minimal, if any, criminal convictions. In fact, the
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: overwhelming majority, and here's the big thing, the overwhelming majority
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: of violence risk appears to be directed towards the self.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: So this is something I've said so many times. Men
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: are far more likely to kill themselves than they are
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: ever to kill another person. Ever, and yet what does
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: this article focus on the mass majority of men who
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: are suffering the loneliness, depression, anxiety, rejection, social isolation. Right,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: they're going to kill themselves. They're going to unlive themselves,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: kill them Oh you know what, fuck YouTube, They're going
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: to kill themselves. That's what they're going to do. And
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: in fact, this article makes that a certainty because instead
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: of refocusing on how to help these young men, it
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: refocuses on the burden that they are to the greater society. So, really,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: really ask the question is that the outcome these people want?
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Do they just want these guys to disappear themselves, right.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't. They wouldn't have a problem with it. If
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: they happened, No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't have a problem
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: with it. They probably blamed They'd gild be another thing
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: they could blame them for.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, So here's what.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, why don't you guys share your feelings more, which,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: of course they are doing that now and people are
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: sad about that.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: So so one of the things that we've brought up
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: a lot on this show is that men without a
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: sense of connection to the work of society are vulnerable
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: to narratives that give them a purpose, even if those
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: narratives are violent. And this is a crew across the board,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: like these narratives, these ideologies, and that includes like Nazism.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Originally it caught root with like these disaffect groups of
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: young men. And this is happening with the in cell community,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: and people are mistaking the forest for the trees, the
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: trees for the forest. Really it is critical to digress
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: in order to address one or so the obvious aspect
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: regarding the killings committed by those in the in cell community,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: which is that they often contain overtly ideological or political positions,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: including by the offenders themselves, a frequent habit, particularly by
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: non criminologists. That's a little bit of throwing shade there
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: is to take offenders at their word. Attempting but highly fraught.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: RESET research tactic an excellent example of this, particularly given
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: calls to classify in cells and their violence as terrorism,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: is an MS research conducted in terrorism contexts. Boy, we
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: just got our entire channel heeded for using the T word. Surprisingly,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: actors of suicide attacks were historically considered two of all
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: things be suicidal, rather ideological fear for was considered the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: driving force of suicide attackers. Relying on.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Allison Aliston, Aliston, you're thing pros and she's gone, uh,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: probably avoidcat again. Let's see if she comes back in
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a second. It's just one of those days when you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to wake up. Everything is fucked. Everybody sucks.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: You don't know why, but you want to justify ripping
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: someone's head off. All Right, I'm gonna play some more
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: of this clip. I don't. Alison kind of threw me
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: a curveball, went out of the blue. She pulled out
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: a massive study and started reading the whole thing, which
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: is weird because we have a lot to get through,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: but you know, fuck eating right, all right, let's play
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: some more of this. Let me see while I'm waiting
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: for Alison to come back.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: More Specifically, attractive, sexually successful women are known by inceels
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: as facies, while Becky's are supposed to be normal or
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: relatively attractive women chads. Physically attractive Alpha male figures at
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: the top of the male hierarchy are also resented by
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: in cells and seen as part of the problem ranking
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: below this alpha.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's almost like they don't They're not just
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: annoyed with women. They're also jealous of men that are
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: doing better than they are, and so it's not really
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: a hate thing. It's just envy, which is uh, you know,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: pretty normal. Let's see what Alison just sent me a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: message She had a blackout. Uh huh, sorry guys, all right,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: so Serenade, does Brian get it? Felix the Cat was
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: an inceel, Yes, Felix the Cat he no, he was migtaw.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: He didn't need anybody. A lot of those, a lot
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: of cartoon characters were just migtaw except for Droopy. He
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: was getting it. Okay, So let's keep going while Allison's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: doing that. So yeah, I mean, I don't know. This
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: time code is kind of lame because it's just like describing,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: like you know what, like all the things that in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: cells believe. It's almost like guys like, yeah, we've known
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: this stuff for a long time, and it's not it's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: not baseless anyways. So let me see. I can just
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: read to some of this, So I think I will
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: let me just find because then it might be better than
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: hearing like a robot say it. So all right, so
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: we'll go We'll jump to the article itself. See if
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: you guys can see it. I'm just gonna check and see, Yeah,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you guys can see it, all right. And in the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: article this is the it's showing clips from or like
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: images from the show Adolescents. So let's go ahead and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: read through some of this article, all right. Ranking below
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: this alpha male category of chads are betas, men of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: average appearance and with the ability to maintain a relationship,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: and then in cells males too unattractive to achieve sexual success.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: This is how they're describing it, all right. In cells
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: believe that women take advantage of beta's financially or for
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: other reasons, and that beta's end up being cheated on
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: and used. I don't know how widespread this belief is,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: but we do have a system, the divorce system, child custody, alimony,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: et cetera, that essentially incentivizes women to do this to men.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: And in fact, divorces can be very profitable for women
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: in the right kind of marriage. So why wouldn't they
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: do that? And I'm not saying that they're all prone
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: to doing it, but the incentive structure is there, and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: this is why Allison said that divorce lawyers benefit a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: lot from this kind of this narrative about men. So
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: let me see what you guys are saying. I see
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: the vocal chat or the the the special chat is
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: pretty special today. So let's see. I want to see
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: what you guys are saying. Luke Skywalker was an inceel No.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I think he was focused on being a Jedi. That's
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: how you become a Jedi. You don't you don't get
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: laid if you guys know that, but you can use
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the force. Uh, you guys aren't saying much. You're just
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: kind of being silly. That's fine, be silly, hang out,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: that's cool. I will see if Alston comes back. I'm
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: not sure if she will. Apparently they have a blackout.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: I guess it's really cold up there, so all right.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Then they explain that terminali comes terminology for this comes
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: the matrix. Blah blah blah. Don't really care. And then
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: of course they go to Elliott Roger, because this is
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: like the go to example today in cells glorify Elliott Roger,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: a twenty two year old who penned a one hundred
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: and thirty seven page in cell manifesto before killing six
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: people and injuring fourteen others in California in twenty fourteen. Okay,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: notice this is like a trick. Okay, Whenever they tell
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: you this sexist person hurt people, they usually mean men,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: because if they hurt women, they would say women. But
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: when they don't say women and they say instead people
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: or students or some kind of gender neutral term, it
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: means that they hurt men. And in Elliott's Roger's case,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I believe, and I could look it up to confirm it,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: but it was a minority of women, maybe two, but
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: mostly it was men. So we're looking at, you know,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: killing six people. I think four of them were men.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Some of them were his roommates and injuring. Many others,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: mostly men, were hurt and killed by this. And yeah,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: he was I guess he was struggling with relationships. But
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: if you guys don't know this, Elliott Roger's problem was
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: he had an abusive stepmother and that's where the source
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: of a lot of his ire came from. His father
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: was a very rich Hollywood producer, but he was not
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: around because he was flying around doing things, you know,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: And so Elliott Rodger lived with a woman that was
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: not his mother. His mother stayed in I forget, but
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: it was some of European country and she stayed behind
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: there when his father moved to Hollywood with his new wife,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: and his new wife treated Elliott Roger like shit until
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: she and basically demanded that she have her own kids.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: She didn't want to raise him, and so he ended
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: up basically just like an absolute mess. And eventually, because
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: he desired to be with his mother, he started to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: desire women, and he wanted a specific kind of woman
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: because he was looking for you know, I guess, like
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: something normal and peaceful, but never got it, unfortunately, and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: he ended up lashing out the Supreme gentleman, as it were,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: So how do they explain men who have hurt or
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: killed their partners? They were ideologues of a movement, that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: what ideologies of movements? Who are married? I are you
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: talking about? I don't know what you're talking about. Your
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: your phrasing is nonsensical. So Shaft five things, says, intel
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: is another word for lowly white man syndrome and guys
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: who can't get girlfriends because I'm an asshole to women.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: And they wonder why. Actually, significant number, maybe even a majority,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: of in cels are not white. They're minority men and
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: their men with disability and some mental health challenges and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: autism and stuff. But nice try Shaft. Of course, you
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: know you don't care about that because you're not you.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: You're interested in pushing a narrative of your own. So yeah,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: sorry to tell you break it to you, man, but
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: most in cells probably are actually not white. Okay, But anyway,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: like Elliott Roger was half Asian, I think, yeah, he was,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Like he was half Asian and I don't know what
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the other half was. So uh. Twenty five four years later,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: twenty five year old Toronto in cel Alec Manassian. It's
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Alec not Alex carried out a deadly rampage that left
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: ten people dead and injured sixteen others. Again, that's not
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: true because while he said what he needed to say
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: during the interview with police, it was later revealed that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: by his lawyer and others that it wasn't because of
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: an in cell ideology, but rather because of basically workplace
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: stressors that drove him over the edge. So his job,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: it wasn't And he actually had a pretty normal like
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: social circle, so that's not true either. But and this
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: was debunked years ago, like years ago, and yet these
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: people are still gonna like trot out the same old
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: talking points because that's the purpose of it. It's not
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: really to address the issue. It's just to like maintain
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: the frame, as it were, of you know, the Intels
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: being very dangerous people despite the fact that they're probably
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: like the least effectual people. And that's not a bad thing.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: It's just a truth. So all right, Uh, let's see
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: what are you guys saying in the chat. If I'm
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the president, I think I'm entitled to boot my pants,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: thank you very much. That's your business, not mine. Get
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Islam out of America. Now working on it. I think
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: it's not up to me. Let's see uh in a
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: yarready that you haven't said anything shafts since then, So
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: I guess I guess you're just walking away from that
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: discussion now that you know that, all right. And then
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: there was Jake Davidson when I was shooting spree in Plymouth,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: killing five people, including a father and his three year
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: old daughter. Again, remember, whenever they say people, they mean men.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: If there was women, they would just say it. If
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: a guy killed ten women, they would say a guy
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: killed ten women or girls. But if they if they
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: say people were killed, it usually means men. They don't
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: want to they don't want to refer because then then
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: you have to like think, oh, there are male victims here, right,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: and that's just not important to these people. A new
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: study published in Aggression and Violent Behavior says most insults
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: don't engage in physical violence, but the normalization of misogynistic
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: and aggressive rhetoric online creates an environment where violent fantasies
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: and actions are validated. Again, what about assassinations of like
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: political pundits and stuff is what does that does that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: account for? Allison said, she's getting to another location, all right,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Purlog the Giant says, Lol, you never had a girlfriend. Okay,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm like fifty two years old, I
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: don't really care, and I'm married, so sure, I guess
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I guess she's not my girlfriend. She's my wife and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: we'll be of ten years in December. But you know,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: thanks for that really like well thought out and logical
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: argument that you made. Really appreciate it, all right. So, yeah,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: rhetoric violent rhetoric. That doesn't there's no such thing as
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: violent rhetoric. It's just words. They can't be violent, they
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: don't hurt you. Uh, normalization of that again, you know,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not the weird. Those aren't the guys that were essentially,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: you know, calling for like people to be killed and
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and then acting on it. It's not that. So the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: study identifies several priorities for future research, such as the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: role of mental health conditions like anxiety depresident of neurodivergence,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: so what they're going to do anything about that. The
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: team conclude there is a need to examine the pathways
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: and mechanisms of radicalization, as well as protective factors that
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: could mitigate risks of violent behavior. Understanding how mass attacks
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: are glorified within inseell communities, and how these acts are
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: interpreted as symbols of grievance is also critical for developing
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: strategies to counteract such narratives. So they don't actually want
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: to solve the problem. They just want to complain about
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: the problem as usual. This is how it almost always goes.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: So they never want to solve the problem. They just
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: want to whine about it because like, these guys do
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: need help, like a lot of men, they're in dire
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: straits and we should be supporting them. And one of
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: the ways to do is give them a healthy community
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: to be a part of. I actually do believe that
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: insell forums and Reddit and stuff are actually like they're
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: not healthy for anyone because it becomes a weird, toxic
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: circle jerk there. And I think that what you need
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: is something that you know, not for the sake of
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: monitoring anybody, but like to give them a healthier place
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: to like feel included, like a space of their own.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: But the problem is that male spaces are always broken
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: up by women and feminists, so they and because they're
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: worried that this something bad is going on, so they
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: don't allow that to happen. So that's an issue as well.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: So uh, tangle Hierarchy says, why are you pushing a narrative?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: What narrative are you talking about? Okay, so hypnosis go
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: out to go out and unprogram all these liberals. I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: don't know what that means. There's no way Brian can
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: get a girlfriend. Lindsey would be pissed. I'll look, one
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: woman is enough, Okay. I can't. I can't do I
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: can't do that. I don't I just this too much work.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: You guys, you don't know. Women are a lot of work.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you. So all right, let me see if Alison.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything from her yet. She's trying to
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: solve this problem. I'm sure she's gonna take ten minutes
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: to explain how, you know, her whole adventure. So I'm
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: going to move on to something else in the meantime.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: So let's look at a video by well, let's look
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: at Lisa Brighton's post here on X. So here you
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: have Lisa Brighton. I'm going to turn this off so
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: that you guys can see it over here that are
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: watching on the vertical. This is on X. Lisa Brighton
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: says a recently published peer reviewed article in a feminist
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: academic journal aims to broaden conventional ideas of violence to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: include even the anticipation of potential harm. The researchers assert
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: that violence doesn't need intention or an instigator, and that
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: just existing within the Western capitalist cis hetero patriarchal regime
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: transforms daily experiences into arenas of trauma and violence. Basically,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: men are perpetrators just for existing. This is not a joke.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: This is not a joke. This is a real, published,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: peer reviewed article in a feminist academic demic journal. So
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: we're gonna look. I'll look at this maybe on its own. Yeah,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: I can get I can get real close, so you
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: guys can see it. So let's share this tab. Let
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: me look at what you guys are saying really quick
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: before I move on. Let's see box TV says wise
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: words from a married man. Yep, tangled hierarchy says people
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: is a mixed gender term, narrative pusher. No, you don't
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: understand how the media works, my man. If women are
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: the primary victims, or even a plurality like a significant number,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: then that will be the focus of the post. They'll
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: say this number of women were harmed in this instance.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: You can find countless examples. But if they don't say
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: that and they just say people, it usually means a
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: majority of men were the victims, because it doesn't work
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: as well. And actually, the fact that you think I'm
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: pushing a narrative because I'm telling you how they do
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: that means that you have actually fallen prey to that
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: narrative yourself, because you're the one saying, well, it could
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: be both, but I obviously it can be. But my
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: point is the reason why they choose those words is
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: because they're trying to get you to see it a
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: certain way, because if they're too specific, then it's going
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: to like minimize the impact they want, the emotional impact
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: they want you to get. Your sources. I don't look,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: I'm doing the show. Okay, Like, if if you want
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: to like debate or whatever, you can come on the
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: show and fight fight me if you want to stop
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: pushing narrative and putting words in my mouth. He's so
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: mad source question mark source. This guy's a soyjack in
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: real life. Okay, So here's an article. Uh, this is
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: the paper. Okay, I've grown it's just like the uh abstract,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: but we can probably find the whole thing. I've grown
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: fearful of any rustle behind me. Defining anticipating discriminatory violence
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: as violence. So if a woman feels like she's in danger,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: according to this paper, it means she is. This is
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: and this kind of attitude is why we live in
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: such a let's just say, a society that is completely
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: in danger of losing all of its rights because women
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: feel unsafe. And it's not just in America. This is
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: in Canada. This is New Brunswick, this and on Ottawa.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Canada doesn't have free speech, by the way, so if
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: this like passes into law, then the Canada's cooked is done. Okay,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: So I am slightly feeding the trolls because Alison would
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: totally feed the trolls. But like Tangle, hierarchy has nothing left.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: He's just like hurling insults. You can stay do whatever,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: man spurg out. I get your view, and it's it
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: only helps us out. So thanks for contributing to the algorithm.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: All right, m abstract marginalize people. That means not men
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: fear and expect violence often daily. This prompts us to
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: ask is anticipating violence of violence in and of itself?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Asking and answering this question extends the feminist critical Race,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Violence and Trauma Project studies project of broadening traditional understandings
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: of violence to name ignored forms of violence as violence,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: epistemic or representational violence. Ultimately, we argue that anticipating discriminatory
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: violence is violence in and of itself. What would be
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: the purpose of making this claim? Like, that's the only
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: thing that matters. What would be the purpose of making
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: this claim if it isn't to basically grasp at more
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: power and control over people? I don't see any other
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: reason to do it. And like Canada is like it's
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: so it's probably like closer to communism than any other
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: country that the US deals with is Canada. It's probably
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: the most fucked and we're like right next door too,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: but anyway to do so? First, we contest the common
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: assumption that violence is intentional. The idea that violence needs
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: to be intentional is a long held myth that functions
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: to deny various forms of violence. What so can violence
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: be unintentional? Oh more control? What does that mean? Oh?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: My goodness? Uh? The idea that violence needs to okay,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: I read that. Second, we challenge the idea that violence
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: requires a clear perpetrator. Systems of oppression and discriminatory ideologies
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: enact violence, but there often is no clear perpetrator. When
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: we are preoccupied with claiming that violence involves an intentional actor,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: we neglect to attend to the ways in which oppressive
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: ideologies and systems structure systemic structures of institutional structures of
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: systems marginalize people's daily lives and experiences of anticipating violence.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Common gobbledegook. Living under the Western capitalist cis hetero patriarchal
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: regime renders the everyday a god a site of trauma
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: and violence? Who does is anyone in the chat actually
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: buying any of this? Are you buying any of this? Like?
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Do you believe in systemic western capitalist cis hetero patriarchal
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: regimes that just are a site of trauma and violence?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Just living under that system is violence? Does anyone actually
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: believe that? Like? Like, are you that retarded that you
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: think this is at all valid? And this is a
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: peer reviewed academic paper that is making this claim. All right,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: just just remember somebody got paid a lot of money
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: to write this drivel. Oh you're back, Okay, what happened? No?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I know, I know. Let me let me just plug
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: you in. Nobody can hear you right now? Yeah, no,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: no I can, but I haven't plugged you in, so
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the audience can't. I have to like put your camera
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: in in here with your audio. Okay, you're good now,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: So just.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Just zoom in a bit because I can't do that.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Uh how do I zoom in? Well, hold on, let
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: me let me see if I can do it over here. Uh,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: I might not be able to.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: All right, So we I just had a massive blackout.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: It wasn't voidcat.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: So now I'm on like at where I have a
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: a generator and nobody else in the town has power,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: so don't tell them. But yeah, that's it's it's just
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: well out of my hands. It's for some reason winter
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: is unusually difficult to deal with this year or something,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: or maybe it's three I atlas. Who knows, Yeah, who knows.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: But anyway, so I'm back doing what I can too.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: All right, No, it's okay, we're we're uh so I fail.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: It is the insul article and now we're looking at
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: the least a brighton thing. Okay.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: I I caught a little bit of it, and I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: just want to say that I find myself. I have
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: grown fearful of any feminist tweet, and I would like
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: to say that that means I live in a feminist
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: informed the theocracy, and that it is violence against me.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: That feminism is literal by existing, is literal violence against
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: me because I find it well, I mean, I'm not
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: particularly afraid of it because I don't think feminists can
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: really do anything to me. Oh boy, now in before
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: they do. But yeah, like I don't fear the cis
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: hetero patriarchal. I fear feminists. And it's not that I'm
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: like I'm afraid of them like they they are. I'm
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: afraid of what they can do because I've had it
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: done to me and it wasn't fun. So I would
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: say that the biggest purveyors of fear in my life
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: are feminists themselves. How bad is my sound?
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: By the way, sounds fine?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah it's bad.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Then yeah it's not bad.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: We have an actual what are they called microphone at
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: the moment, So.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: What are you using as your microphone? Your phone?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: No, not my phone. I'm just using my laptop. So
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: there you go.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: The phone video is so huge, like it's he wants
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: to capture my entire I'm actually pretty close to the
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: to the s boop, I'm quite close, but doesn't It's
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: like wide screen for some reason.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: So hello, I mean we just gotta like deal with
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: it for this.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, so, I guess, all right.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so the U I was reading article or
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: the abstract.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: I wonder why men feel so lonely and isolated when
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: their very presence is considered a reason to eject them
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: from society.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I grew.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's go into Scott Galloway.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Then, uh, well I'm not finished with this yet. Oh
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: so no, no, I was reading it and then you
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: jumped in. So okay. Systems of oppression and discriminatatory ideologies
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: and act violence. So just systems existing, mm hmm, But
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: there is often no clear perpetrator. When we are preoccupied
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: with claiming the violence involves an intentional actor, we neglect
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: to attend to the ways in which oppressive ideologies and
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: systems structure marginalize people's daily lives and experiences of anticipating violence.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: So the again, just the existence of these systems means
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: that people live under the system anticipating violence, which is
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: itself violence to these people, living under the Western capitalist
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: cis hetero patriarchal regime renders the everyday. The every day
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: a site of trauma and violence. Just living under a
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: Western capitalist cis hetero patriarchal regime. This framework for reconceptualizing
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: what counts as violence creates a space to move beyond
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: violence in its most traditional forms. The punch, the slur,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: anticipating violence is the logical consequence of living under systems
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: of oppression.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: And then this again, this is all just unproven assertion,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: just they just randomly decided to make to prove, to
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: allege that this is happening, and we're supposed to agree
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: this is. None of this stuff is proven, None of
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: this has been subject to any kind of academic rigor.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: It's just supposed to be accepted at face value because
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: they've said it, and that's it.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Yep. Also, Alison, you don't get to claim the same
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: the same thing when you said earlier like I fear,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I know, you were basically throwing it in their face.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I fear feminists, you know, attacking me that. That doesn't
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: work though, because you see, they don't have power. You
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: have power because you are in the side of men,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: even though you're a woman. But you are the one
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: that has a systemic power, not them, Not those you know,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: multi million dollar academics with tenure that are just like
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: telling us this shit from their ivory towers and then
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: like sharing this. They're all of their articles like people
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: in the media and the political class and the you know,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: the corporations, et cetera, to like use that to inform
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: law and policy. No, no, no, that that's not institutional power.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: They're just punching up. They're always punching up. You see,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: you're the one punching down. I'm poor widow. Women's anyway,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Alison dropped again? Now, Allison, Alison, I can hear you,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: but your camera turned off or not? Let me see
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: if she dropped again. She dropped again anyway, all right,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know Today's today might be like kind of cooked.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: All right. So Albatross sent us a super chap for
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: five dollars and says, was this article written by a
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: rabbit or deer? How are you a grown human being
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: and right about being afraid of literally everything? Pathetic? Yeah,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: it is pathetic, but it makes the money. You see,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: these are these are these are grifters like real ones.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: So anyway, let me see Alison. Are you back? Oh? Oh,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: she's coming back. I think Alison are you there? Uh?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm just going to keep ongoing. See
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: if anybody send another super If you want to send
• 1:29:27
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• 1:29:34
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• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Tangle hierarchy is spurging out over there in the chat.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Keep spurging, bro, I mean, I appreciate the view. I
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks for thanks for coming stick around if
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: you wish. Okay, let's go on to the next bit.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Uh debate you on?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Debate me? Bro?
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Where's the demate.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: On?
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: Now? You had to adjust the zoom?
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: No, no, I'm using a completely different camera because that
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: one's crapping out or some ship. How do you like
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: your maasoline camera?
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Whatever? I mean, I just want to get through this
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: because I'm hungry. Yeah, it looks fine, all right, So
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: for some reason there's like another whatever. All right, So
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on to Scott Galloway. Now all right,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: so let me see this one is do I have, like, yeah,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: we have a so this is news Nation. Scott Galloway
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: is a professor at NYU of marketing and business and
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: brand strategy and stuff, and he's done a couple of debates.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: I think he did one on It was either a
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Chris Williamson or Diary of CEO, I don't remember which,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: and they were talking with like some other people about
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: what is going on between men and women PLU. Scott
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Galloway was definitely in over his head in that one.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: So he is his primary thing is like money. He
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: does have some statistics on this, but I don't know
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: that he has the solution. But let us let us
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: get into it. So I'll do the intro and then
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: we'll get into some of the time codes. Let me
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: know if you can hear this.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: I can.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta do this thing
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: over again. Hold on a second, just the moment. Sometimes
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: this thing like stops, it stops like sharing or whatever,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: like it stops sharing the audio. Okay, all right, so
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: let's try it now.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 7: To the quietest and the so Okay, going back to
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 7: the beginning of this, some of the most important stories
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 7: are also the quietest and the most underreported. My Next
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 7: Guest says a widespread social crisis is simmering under the
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 7: surface and in desperate need of attention. NYU professor and
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 7: best selling author Scott Galloway has dedicated much of his
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 7: career to exploring why men in America are struggling. In
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: his new book, Notes on Being a Man, Galloway offers
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: a path forward for men and the parents of young
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 7: men and boys all dealing with feelings of isolation, suffering
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 7: from economic inequality, and struggling with the evolving message of
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: the Democratic Party. Galloway argues they need an aspirational vision
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 7: of masculinity. I sat down with them a short time ago.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: To discuss all right, Yeah, he was on Diary Thank You,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Murder of Crows. Yeah, Diary of CEO with Louise Perry.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: That was I always forget her name. Every time I
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: think of Louise Perry and I want to say her name,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: I think of Laura Bates and they're just not the
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: same at all, So I don't say anything. I'm just like, oh,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: it was somebody, but irrelevant. Yeah, he didn't have like
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: I think he was a bit in over his head.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Like he wasn't because The problem is that when you're
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: so like this woman does her little opening and she
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: talks about like economic inequality, which is like a weird
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: buzzword to say, because I don't think. I don't think
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: that men are worried that there's another dude somewhere making
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: more than them. I think men are worried that they
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: can't afford things that would attract them a mate, so
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: that they would have trouble buying a house or having
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: buying a car, or something that they can use to
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: like provide for a family, right, not even like necessarily
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: to compete with other men, but just to be able
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: to say, here, I can you know, I'm able to
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: give like a stable household to a family, and that's
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: what I want. And another thing is that, again, I
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: don't think men are concerned about equality or inequality, rather
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: than they are concerned that women have really unrealistic standards
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: right now. And a lot of that comes from perhaps
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: social media, so like you know, and also.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Also the underselling of men as partners. But well, I
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: was listening and I'm like, well, perhaps the situation is
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: partly due to this gigantic, trillion dollar industry that siphons
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: money from taxpayers and people who want to buy groceries
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: to programs that teach us all not to get in
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: relationships and have families like who basically undersellment. Like we
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: were talking about that earlier. Like maybe part of our
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: economic woes is we now have this gigantic pipeline from
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: the people who are productive to a bunch of people
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: who can make really good excuses. Why they why they're
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: owed your money and I don't even want to talk
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: about money. Why they're owed the things that you make.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: So if you go and you and you do all
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: the work to have three hundred potatoes at the end
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: of the year, they're owed three hundred and fifty of them.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: You know, like this is this is like when they
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: talk about economic inequality, the greatest driver of that is
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: the government.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely at this point.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: Like look you every single politician, it doesn't they're democrat,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: they say they're socialist, They get into political office, and
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: suddenly they become multimillionaires. How did that happen? You know that?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: How that is?
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: You know how that happened? Because they they get they
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: invest and they have inside scoops. Right, none of them
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: have our interests in mind. And also they get they
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: open up a line of cash from the tax pair
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: of van and it doesn't Matt Like. People are like, oh, well,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: we could just print ourselves out of any Yeah. The
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: problem with that is every time the government gives itself
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: a loan in the form of a treasury, your potatoes
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: go up fifty cents. That's the way it works. They
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: inject more money into the system, everything costs more. And
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: who is responsible for making all the products that underwrite
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: this entire thing? Us? All right?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: All right, so first time code, well he talks about inflation.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's like really I can just
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: get to the part where he talks about man sure
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: because like the yeah, like the other stuff is like
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: he talks about you know, the tariffs and stuff, and frankly,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: like guys don't care about that, like they just you know,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: they're that's just not related. So we'll go to seven
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: fifty one.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm learning about those things, but you want
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: me to go back to that. Let me see, let
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: me see what it has to say. How discussions how
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Americans know inflation is real despite official numbers knowing it
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: downlinking economic cardships of feeling of anxiety and failure, especially
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: among young people who are struggling with housing and employment. Yes, right, okay,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: why are young people struggling right now? Because we have
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: had years of government graft eroding the purchasing power. Right,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: and it's all in the US, it's all under it
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: by the the world Reserve currency. And then we have
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: also even the taxes don't even compare to losing your
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: purchasing power through inflation. And that is literally the government
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: writes out alone to itself, and that it injects the
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: economy with more money. Right, and what happens everything is
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: everything costs more. And by right, what is the government
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: created by writing a loan to itself? What is the
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: government added to the the net body of things that
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: we can buy by creating a loan to itself? Nothing? Nothing.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: The government simply takes from all of the productivity that
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: we do that we create us. And then here's the
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: other thing. Productivity throughout history has been tied to the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: relationship between men and women. Now use the example of
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: hunter gatherer societies. Hunter gatherer societies make it so that
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: men's labor incentivizes women's labor. That incentivizes men's labor. Now,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: how do they do that, and they do that because
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: they're at the razor's edge of survival. So if they
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: screw this up, they're dead, right. And the way that
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: they do this is the best hunter gets the best gatherer.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: Gatherer gets the best hunter, right. So there is incentive
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: throughout the tribe for both men and women to provide
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: the best that they can. And in our society that
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: incentive has been broken in favor of a narrative in
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: which men exploit women and women are exploited. So we've
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: basically broken the productive engine of our society, which is
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: the relationship between men and women, men and women incentivizing
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: each other to be productive. That is the engine of
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: our society. So yeah, everything is going to become unaffordable
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: because we are we are not productive the way we were.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: Everything is going to cost more, everything is going to
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: get more difficult because everything was easier when the productive
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: engine wasn't broken. And it is broken because of feminism,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: maybe other factors that feminism is a symptom of, but regardless,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: what feminism is doing is not helping justifying the engine
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: being broken and calling it progress.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and well again, one of the reasons why
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: I wanted to skip this part because I think Scott
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Galloway is trying to make a link between men's problems
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: and the way they voted, because like, men overwhelmingly came
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: out and voted for Trump in the last election, a
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: lot of Latino men actually, like probably the largest demographic,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: and I think people are scrambling to understand it, and
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: then they're like, well, he's not gonna do things for you,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: And it's like, we didn't vote for him because we
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: wanted a genie. We didn't want someone to grant wishes.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: We weren't looking for a fairy godmother. We wanted someone
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: that was gonna not continue to destroy the country so
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: that the people who live here, who are Americans, who
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: are citizens, can build their own shit unimpeded by the state.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Because guess what, the state is an obstacle. It is
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: an obstacle. It serves a purpose right at the minimum,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: it protects the rights of its citizens, like by protecting
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: its borders, by protecting you know, domestic threats, whatever, maybe
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: continuing good relations with other countries who can trade with them,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: but at least in a fair sense. But for the
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: most part, like men don't vote for Gibbs, Men vote
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: for liberty so that they can build something, and they
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: can't do that if the state is subsidizing their own destruction,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: which is why they voted the way they did. It's
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: very simple, like that's just what's the reality. Men don't
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: see the government as a genie or a fairy godmother.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: It doesn't grant wishes, it doesn't just give them shit. Okay,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: it's best served being out of the way, and that's
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: what they want to do. And so it was either
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: that or you know, like what women voted for, which
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: was infinity abortions and infinity migrants, that we're going to
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: take their jobs. So like they were like, no, we
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: don't want that. We want you know, we want you
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: to look out for us. And that's why they voted
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: that way. And Scott Galloway is trying to find ways
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: to criticize this because he thinks men want the same
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: thing women want, and they don't, you know, women want
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: infinity free shit. Men realize that's not how the world works.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: And in fact, if they gave them that, then men
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: would be even worse off because women would never they
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: would look at men's said I don't need you for anything.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Now you can just work, and we'll just tax the
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: shit out of you and we'll just give all the
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: money to women. And that is what it does. Literally,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: like have you seen well, like.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Gives to women but takes a gigantic chunk in the meantime. Yeah,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Like the women that they're giving this stuff to are
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: not getting rich off of it. But somehow the people
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: who are directing the funds to women are And somebody says,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: we're not billionaires, it's billionaires. Yes, billionaires are doing this shit.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: They're doing this shit. Soros is doing this shit, that club,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: Carl Schwazz. You know, they're all doing it. They're all
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: part of the system. Surprise, surprise.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Your problem is but the government is what makes it possible. Like,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: the government is what makes taxation like this possible. Yes,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: so I think they corporations don't exist without the government.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: They don't. So you can hear them billionaires if you
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: want to, But that doesn't answer that. The thing is
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: if a man is in a marriage with a woman
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: and they're happy together, they don't need anyone. Like where
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I live, there are plenty of people who just do
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: it all on their own and they have a community
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: and they raise their own You know, kids, they educate them,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: they grow their own food, they tend to their own animals.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: They don't need the government for that. It's literally what
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: the Amish does. Like they live without it and they're happy. Okay,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: So like the government getting involved, yes, with corporations, sure
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: and billionaires, sure whatever, they form the conditions for this,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: for this sickness. So like, but the but the solution,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: the antidote, if it were, is men and women coming
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: together freely. The problem is is that we've created a
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: situation where the majority of women are not interested in
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: the majority of men, and the men can't build anything
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: of their own so that they can attract a woman.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: Because women, they they get, they get more education, they
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: get they make more money, they base you know, they're
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: basically doing better. But it's not it's not organic. It's artificial.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Like they get like bullshit jobs at Google and ship
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: you know, when they eat avocado toast all day and
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: play ping pong. But at some point they're going to
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: be replaced with AI and they're not going to be
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: prepared for that, and it's it's going to be a disaster.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, So people are saying in the in
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: the in the special chat tangled hierarchy. You fucking love women? Okay? Why? Okay?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: I am a woman and I absolutely hate it when
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: men say stuff like that, what is it you love
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: about women? Okay?
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: Is it our butts?
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: What is this generic thing that all women have that
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: you love? Obviously, I, as an individual haven't developed it
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: or earned it, so I don't want it, all right,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: And then here's the next thing, So, uh, what do
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: we have to say that that women are First of all,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: it was feminism that I said. Okay, Feminism has never
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: been proven. There is no neutral, ideologically neutral body of
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: evidence that proved feminist feminist premises correct, right, and it
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: BA basically just creates the evidence for itself. So it
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: is not proven. Nobody has to believe it. So we
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: have to look at it for what it has done.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: And it has promoted this idea that men are a
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: net negative to women. That's what it's done. It's said
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: that men oppress women. It maybe says, well, if you
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: submit to feminism, you'll stop doing that sometime in the
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: future or maybe for a single second. But again, right
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: back to the first step, it hasn't been proven, and
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: we've injected this narrative into the relationship between men and women.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: Where do you think productivity comes from? Where do you
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: think desire to build something comes from? To produce something,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: to grow something. It comes from the desire to have
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: a family, right to have a wife, to have children,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: to have a husband, to have children. That's what makes
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: both men and women productive. And again go back to
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: the hunter gather example. They don't have any room for
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: error because they're on the edge of survival and they
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: know this, so they make sure that men incentivize the
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: productivity of women and women incentivize the productivity of men.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Where do you think the economy came from that first
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: group of people, two groups of people exchanging, hunters and
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: gatherers exchanging. That's the first unit of our economy and
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: it remains the fundamental unit of our economy, the fundamental
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: reason why people are productive instead of just simply being
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: consumers of things. Okay, when you destroy that, imagine productivity
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: it's like a I don't know, like you're going to
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: a party and everybody brings their brings, their casse role
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: or their dessert or whatever. Right now, productivity is making
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: sure everybody brings something so they all have it. In
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: the buffet. Okay, what happens when people just start taking
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: without bringing it without putting something back. What ends up
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: happening if you get too many people who go to
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: the buffet and take without putting their own item back
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: in is you have a bear buffet. There's nothing left.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: That's what happens when productivity ceases, and that's what's happening
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: with our society. Productivity is ceasing because the essential unit,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: the essential dynamic that creates productive people is gone, and
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: it's beyond because we have embraced a narrative, and there
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: may be other reasons why we embrace that narrative, we
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: have embraced that narrative that men are a net negative
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: to women, so that men incentivizing women's productivity and women's
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: incentivizing men's productivity. Broken, we've taken a frickin baseball bat
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: to our engine. And then we're like scratching our head.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: Why is there so much inflation? Why can nobody buy
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: a ha? Why doesn't it work anymore? Because we've taken
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: a baseball bat to our engine. And while we could say, well, billionaires,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: if billionaires certainly haven't helped with their pet projects, but
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: they are what actually did it? You want to continue
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: to blame them, Sure, kill all the billionaires. See if
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: it changes anything, it won't. You still will not have
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: You will still not be able to pay for your groceries.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: You still won't be able to buy a house, You
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: still won't be able to buy a car, you will
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: still never be in a position to have a family.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: That is not the problem. They are at best a
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: symptom of a problem, which is consolidation of money in
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: a smaller and smaller and smaller group of people. Which
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: part of the problem, and part of the reason why
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: that's happening is the government, Like look at the look
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: at all the AI stuff happening now, Okay, all of that,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: all of that, and then the head of Navidia saying, oh,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: what our exit plan? Well he said it as a joke,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: but it probably isn't. Is that we're going to become
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: too big to fail and then the government's going to
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: have to come in and bail us out. You didn't
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: think that would happen, would you. Yeah, you could create
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: a socialist system, except it's not socialism for people. It's
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: socialism for corporations, because that's how it works. Okay, anyway, So.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the to the to the bit where
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: he talks about because I think this is the part
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: that I was.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: More interested in suicide Elizabeth for.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: Bit, he talks about men's issues here.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be hard to identify a cohort that
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: has fallen further faster than young men over the last
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: twenty years. If you walk into a Morgan, there's five
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: people died by suicide Elizabeth. For men, so four times
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: likely to kill themselves. We have a homeless and an
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: opiated crisis. But what we really have is a male
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: homeless and a male opiate crisis. There's three times more
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: likely to be addicted twelve times when we are likely to
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: be incarcerated. Only one in three men under the age
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: of thirty is in a relationship, whereas two and three
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: women are in a relationship. You think, well, that's mathematically impossible.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: It's not because women are dating older because then.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: What that much that's not possible.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't know if that's true, but I
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: do think women are. Well, here's the thing. Women tend
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: to marry up and so if they're making more money
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: than the men of their same age range, then they'll
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: look at older men who are doing even better, and
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: they'll probably be interested in them, because like a woman
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: looks at her situation compares it to like how much
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: better can I do? And then that's where she goes.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: So I could. I don't think it's happening across the board,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: but I do think that a lot of women are
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: dating older men because those men are well, if they
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: are economically higher up they do, I'll put it that way,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: if they if there was a man their age that
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: was economically making more than they did him, but there
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: probably aren't. So it's probably more likely they're dating older,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: like a lot older, not just a few years, you know,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. So, Or they're dating the same guy, like
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: a bunch of women are with the same guy, you know,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: you know that what's the what's the Reddit page? Are
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: we are we sating the same guy? Or something like that?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: It's Facebook? And then there was the tapacebook, the t
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: apps that sort of confirmed that all these women are
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: basically dating the same man.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah crazy, All right, let's keep going.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: Man, you have now one in seven men are qualify
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: as NEAT. They're neither an education, employment, or training. They're
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: essentially doing nothing. One out of three men under the
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: age of twenty five still lives at home. One out
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: of five men at thirty is still living at home.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: So you have essentially a group of people who are
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: becoming just very unproductive citizens. And the result is the
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: death of despair, trunk driving accidents, suicide.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm pausing it there for a second. So he
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: knows the problem, he sees the the well the outcomes right,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: like the the the struggles that young guys are having.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: But he also like sort of like talked earlier about
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: all the problems with the you know, like financially with
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: the current administration, and he's like baffled that men voted
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: that way. But I think it's again, it goes back
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: to what I was saying before. They were looking for
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: opportunities and the Democrats had nothing for them. They were
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: they they didn't even know how to talk to men.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: They were shitting on them constantly, they were shaming them
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: for not supporting women. And so those men were like, well,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: fuck this, you know, and now there there's probably some
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: room to breathe they can like figure this out. And
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: he's just like, yeah, this is really bad, but he
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't have any answers he's not like, you know, these
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: guys need some I don't know, like we need to
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: form some kind of social organization, we need to form
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: a network, We need to help these guys start their
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: own businesses because a lot of companies are hostile towards men.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: HR departments, you know, things like that. So but again
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: just sort of like sit in the stage here. I
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: don't think he's going to have a solution. All he
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: can do is talk about the problem. He's got the
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: data right, so I'll give him that.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: I hope you had addiction over doses. Since two thousand
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: and two, for the last twenty three years, more men
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: have died incrementally. Not men who are dying from death
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: to despair, but additional deaths from despair is greater than
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: the number of young men who are lost in World
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: War Two. So this is taking a real toll on
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: households and on young men. And we were off my
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: talking about the struggles of young men. When a boy
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: loses a male role model at that moment, he's more
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: likely to be incarcerated and graduating from college. And the
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: interesting thing about that day, Elizabeth, is that a girl
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: in a single.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Grade pausing it there for a second, like a father.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: I mean he says male role model, but like it
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: starts with the father.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: Father. Yeah, it's a father, that's that's Yeah. If they lose,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: we are constructing a situation where we are destroying ourselves
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: by incentivizing single motherhood.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: I've looked at the I've looked at the statistics single
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: mothers are and I actually got into arguments with people
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: who are Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go a place
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: where it might upset the people who are anti immigration
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: or are against immigration, single mothers are worse than immigrants.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: They vote not anti immigration. That just gives me a
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: scope on how bad the single mom problem is. He's
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: still an anti immigration though, Alison, that hasn't changed. But
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: I'm also anti single mom, so you know, you just
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: add that to the list, all right.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: So they vote overwhelmingly Democrat, and at this point in time,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly Democrat is basically just making more excuses for governments
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: to print themselves blank checks that we all have to
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: pay for in our groceries. Right, I mean, honestly, both
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: sides are sort of like this at this point. But
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: there may be some hope with one, but they Not
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: only do they keep voting for people who increase the
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: spending even more than the other side that increases the spending,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: they also are a net drain on the tax base,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: so they put they take out hundreds of thousands more
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: than they put in. Okay, Now, the only group of
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: people who is really shouldering the system is men, in
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: particular married men, who are paying the most amount of taxes.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: After that is unreas married men, and then married women
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: and then single mother So it goes single mother's huge negative,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: married men huge positive, single men smaller positive, single sorry,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: married women smaller positive, and that so it goes back
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: to the whole thing that men and women incentivize each
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: other's productivity. So a married woman incentivizes the married men's productivity.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: He's putting a lot more back into the system. Single
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: women with children take more out than they put in.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: Single women put a little bit back in, but not
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: too much. And then there's there's these statistics out of
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: out of New Zealand that show that women only ever
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: take more out of the system than they put in.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: So he got that educated immigrants, Okay, they actually put
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: in to the system in terms of their taxes, just
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: under married men and just over single men.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they also vote for the let's write more blank
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: texts led the government writing more blank tech checks party. Okay,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: which most of those blank checks I don't know if
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: you guys have noticed go to corporations first. So, yeah,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: you're getting hoodwinked by these people, these individuals, whatever party,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party, you're definitely getting hoodwinked because they say
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: that they're for the little guy. They're not. Therefore, whatever
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: excuse enables government to justify printing yet more blank checks
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: for itself. And I'm not saying like I don't. The
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: Republicans also have shown that they expend a lot too.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: This is a government problem. The government can only ever
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: take from the economy. It can't create an economy, and
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: it can't add to the economy. It only ever takes
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: from it. But the economy itself, the fundamental is the
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: relationship between men and women, and right now the government
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: is paying for a narrative to destroy that relationship. And
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: you can, like this guy that I think his name
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: is Tangled came in and he was like, oh, gender war,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: gender war, sure, sure, let's get rid of the gender war,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: get rid of feminism. What do you think it means?
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: What do you think it is to say that men
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: oppressed women? What do you think that means in terms
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: of a gender war? Don't you think that's pretty much
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: starting one? And if you want to stop it, then
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: you got to stop it. You got to stop the
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: narrative that men oppressed women. Otherwise, what you really are
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: saying is you want one side to win it.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, anyway, let's get into the rest of this.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: Parent Holme has similar outcomes, same rates of college attendance,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: same rates of self harm. What it ends up is
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: that while boys are physically stronger, they're emotionally and neurologically
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 3: much weaker than girls. And what we're seeing is the
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 3: kind of economic secking sound of economic prosperity being transferred
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 3: from young So.
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  Speaker 1: He's saying that boys are emotionally and psychologically weaker than girls,
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: why are twenty five percent of young women on SSRIs.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's true, But I think that men
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: are actually doing well considering the constant, constant demonizing, and
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: they haven't like burned the country down. Yeah, I mean,
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of amazing, to be honest, that
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: they're like this. They haven't started a violent revolution, and
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: I hope they don't, but I mean, I think that
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: speaks to their stoicism, despite everyone telling them that stoicism
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: is bad.
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  Speaker 2: So, Olivia Kalos says, men do oppress women. No, they don't.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: That is your desire to deny a part of your
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: humanity speaking, Olivia, I don't. I don't want to play
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: that game personally.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: There's no evidence of that. The Nova twenty one gives
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: a dollar and said, huh.
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  Speaker 2: It's never been proven.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: In fact, there's never been proven. You can make claims,
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  Speaker 1: but those are not arguments. You're just saying what you
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: were told to say by your teachers and by the TV,
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: and by the news people and by the internet people. Okay,
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: I just want to following the line. But they said this.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: You never questioned it. You never asked yourself if that
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: was true. You never looked at the data. You're just
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: following the line. Congratulations, Lemming. You're just saying what you
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: were told to say. So you get a cookie for that.
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  Speaker 2: Olivia says, if you show up in family court, you're
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: likely to get fifty fifty custody. Yeah, in Kentucky, where
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: they now have a presumption of shared custody.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: I hope that's everywhere.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: People like us for that. You're welcome, You're welcome, Okay.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: Nob twenty one games us a dollar on rumble it says,
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: My favorite part of special chat is how you say
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: feminism is bad and they'll argue with you, but praise
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: patriarchy is good, and they refuse to prove you wrong. Well,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: they need the premise of patriarchy to exist so that
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: they can continue to have their arguments. And of course
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: it's not real patriarchy. It's their sort of twisted evil
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: you know, doctor Doom version of patriarchy, which is not
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: proven either. But anyway, all right, back to Scott Galloway,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: old which.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: Has happened over the last forty years is having a
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 3: district personally negative effect on young men. So you're saying
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: that young women are better equipped somehow to deal with
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: all the headwinds that are derailing young men.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: That's what the data shows, it doesn't How is it
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: possible if women are oppressed?
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: No, they're just that strong, right, No, that's not Yeah, they're.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: Just that strong right.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, why don't we subject women to a sort
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: of society wide narrative that they are to blame for everything,
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: like it's okay, So we got to suit the special chat, right,
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: and we got some people flipping out in the special
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: Chat because I said.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: That they're communists and feminists in that that's all they do.
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: They're right welcome.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: So they they're flipping out about me saying that women
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: are not oppressed by men. But I bet this is
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: the first time in their life they've ever heard that statement.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: It's entirely possible for all of them that this is
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: the first this is the first time you've ever heard that.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: So well, I invite you to think when were you
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: convinced that women were oppressed by men? And what argument
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: was used? Okay, what did that argument also include the
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: situation for men? Because I'm truly curious, like, when did
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: you decide to agree with the argument that women are oppressed?
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: When did you sit there and have somebody say, okay,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: well this is the argument for it. And was it
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: just simply oh, women are suffering in this way? Well
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: did they point out how men are suffering? Did they
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: tell you how they were waiting the suffering of men
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: versus the suffering of women? Like what was the argument
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: that convinced you of this instead of writing more bs
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: in the special chat. Tell me that, tell me the
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: argument that convinced you that women were oppressed. Go ahead, operationally,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: this all right, let's continue, all right?
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: Should Oftentimes she pours that energy back into her friend
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 3: network in her professional life. If a man hasn't cohabitated
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: or been married by the time he's thirty, there's a
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 3: one in three chance he's going to be a substance abuser.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 3: There's this cartoon, Elizabeth of a woman, and I'm.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: Going to pause it there for a second. So he says,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: when women they like need to release tension or whatever
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: they're going through, they go to their friend group or
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: their workplace and they can I guess they feel free
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: to do that. And then he doesn't even he just
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't even address whether or not men can do that too.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: But remember, whenever men try to form a space, it
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: gets broken up because men can't are not allowed, are
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: not allowed to fraternize. I mean, I'm granted they figure
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: it out a lot of times, but I guess lately
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: it's been harder. You know, maybe the lockdowns did something
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: about that. I don't know, but it's definitely been a
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: phenomenon that no one can ignore now, and so they're
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: like starting to panic. I think that's why this is
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: like coming up more and more.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like she says that men are weaker,
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: and yet again, men are subject to a society wide
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: threat narrative that blames them for literally everything going wrong
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 2: in society, right, and they're also subject to this continuous
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: campaign against their spaces being able to socialize. Remember gaming comics,
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: all of this stuff had to be colonized, and men
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: have to be subject to oversight. And of course the
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: justification for that oversight is the feminist narrative that men
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: are somehow socializing each other to patriarchy. So any moment
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: where men are together alone is a potential vector of
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: patriarchy into society. So you know, you have to destroy
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: all of men being able to just hang out with
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: each other and support each other. And I've seen this myself.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: I've seen support groups for men, men dealing with suicide,
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: men dealing with rape, men dealing with domestic violence. I've
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: seen them broken up, I finish, Yeah, I've seen them
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: broken up by feminists, right. And and so men's spaces,
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: even men's spaces of support, men's sheds, are recently, now
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: they have to open up the women, so men don't
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: have spaces that aren't under attack, right, and then they
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: don't have any artificial boosting even in the they just
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: don't have any artificial boosting the unique like male ownly bursaries,
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: uh scholarships, hiring quotas. And despite all of this, they're
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: still responsible for most of the work that maintains society
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: day after day after day. I don't know, Scott, I
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: think that you're full of shit when you say they're weak.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're just caring more. All right, let's move on,
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: all right?
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 3: In our thirties, who didn't find romantic love? Sitting in
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 3: the windowsill with cats staring out depressed? Like, what a
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: tragedy that Lisa didn't find love? Guess what, Elizabeth, Lisa's
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 3: just fine when I mean, the data is clear. Widows
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 3: are happier after their husband dies. Widowers are less happy
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 3: after their wife dies. Women in relationships do live longer
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 3: two to four years. Men in relationships live four to
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 3: seven years longer. So just the outcomes the rates of
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: self harm men really it ends up. The bottom line
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: is men need relationships more than women, and essentially women
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 3: are more resilient. They don't know if it's because women
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 3: have had to endure menstruation or childbirth but it ends up.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: Or maybe it's because women's spaces aren't constantly under attack
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: except for now. Yeah.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: Oh well yeah by by some men. But you know what,
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: y'all voted for that, so I don't have any.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: In that game.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: But seriously, no, I don't care you voted for it,
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: but like.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: This is okay, why don't we again? Like I said
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: to that feminist, he said, you just want women to
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: be forced to marry, And I'm like, no, let's just
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: stop stop having people pay for these narratives that men
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: are so bad for women, Like, stop paying for them.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: Kick that ship out of that, get rid of all
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 2: of the science, like the feminist science that has no academy,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: no actual empirical validity, which is all of it. Just
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: get rid of it. You sho didn't have been there
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: in the first place. Like, just get rid of all
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: of that, and let's see how it happens. Like, get
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: rid of all of the all the male space breaking
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: rhetoric and activity and just let men have their just
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: let men be together being friends. Stop having oversight over that. Okay,
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: stop brading.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see that. I'd like to see the
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: data because I don't know if you can measure like
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: if you can get I see. I'd like to see
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: the data just out of curiosity, because there's a lot
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: of unhappy men and women. In fact, women are a
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: lot more neurotic about the future. So I don't understand how.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, whether they're in a relationship or not.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: I don't see how that's a thing.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: Angels hierarchy. Tell me what argument convinced you that women
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: were oppressed? All of you who assert that, What argument
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: convinced you? When were you convinced? Identify when you didn't
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: believe that, and when you learned that, and tell me
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: the argument that convinced you. Until you do, shoosh, you
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: don't even know your own mind. You don't even know
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: where your core beliefs, those sacredly held things, things that
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: you believe even came from. Okay, all right.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 3: Frightening statistic two fifteen year olds, a boy and a
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 3: girl both sexually molested. Neither crime is less hardous than
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 3: the other. The boy is ten times more likely to
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 3: kill himself later in life. So what we're coming to
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: grips with the fact is that men and boys are
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: neurologically weaker and need relationships more. Now, I want to
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 3: be clear that doesn't.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: Are no services for boys who are victims of sexual
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: assault and they're subject to a society whyet campaign of
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: gas lighting and harassment? Dude, what and why did this
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: become about Oh, men are weaker?
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's a weird framing, isn't it. It's like
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: really weird. Maybe boys need support that they're not getting. Like,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: if something happens to a woman or a girl, like
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: people come out of the woodwork to support her. So yeah,
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: she's probably less suicidal after that. I mean, you know,
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: there's one thing. There's one thing.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: That about disclosure on surveys regarding to sexual assault. Women
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: do it very quickly. Men don't, like, for whatever reason,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: if a woman is subject to a sexual assault, she's
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: just like, I can't wait to talk about it on
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: this survey, whereas guys are like they it takes a
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: while for them to just warm up to the idea
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: of talking about it. Why is that? Why is it
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: that women feel so empowered to talk about these things
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: that happen to them, and yet men feel like they
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: have to keep it to themselves, right you really think
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: that's just quote unquote toxic masculinity or is it because
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: nobody wants to help them?
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, the relationships no group is, no group
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: is expected or respond sable for servicing another group of men.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 3: But the reality is men need relationships more than women.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: Men need relations more than women. Well, I mean, I
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: Right, Jacob Hierarchy says when I found out my girlfriend
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: was abused and harrassed from eleven fifteen. Okay, so because
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: I know men who have been sexually assaulted by women,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: that means patriarchy or sorry, matriarchy exists because it exists
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: criminal women who abuse men. That means matriarchy exists because
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: there exists men criminal men. What about Okay, so your
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: girlfriend is subject to a criminal activity at all of
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 2: the men who go out of their way to punish, incarcerate,
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: bring to justice men who are criminal, they don't count.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: How many men do I know who are assaulted? Okay?
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: How old are you tangled? How old are you are
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: you perhaps under the age of thirty, because I got
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: a statistic for you, and you're probably going to completely
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: ignore it.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think you might be wasting your
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: time here. No, but you know, it could be. It
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: could be a teachable moment for the audience. It could
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: be a teachable guy. You are in you are way
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 1: in over your head, whoever. You are so not prepared
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: for this. But go ahead, all right.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: How many men do you know that we're assaulted? I
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: don't have to give you how many men I know
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 2: because I can tell you the statistics, and they're getting
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: worse and more terrifying. Millennial women, that is, women at
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 2: actually should be classified as women who are like under
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: thirty five, rape using weapons two to three times more
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: than millennial men or any other generation. Their attitudes towards
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: male victims of sexual assault have gotten worse since the
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: seventies the eighties. So women who are more my generation
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: have better attitudes towards male victims of sexual assault than
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: younger women. So the direction of attitudes in women for
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: male victims of sexual assault is getting worse, and their
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: behavior is getting worse worse. Now go ahead and ignore that.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: Let's keep going on.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: That's the end of the video, all right.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: Do we want to do the patriarchal crystal smash or
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: the patriarchy smashing crystals. I think that we'll get quite
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  Speaker 2: the appreciative audience in the specialty chat today. I'm sure
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• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: then it must have happened though, right, because even if
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: women think that it might have happened or could happen,
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: that means it happened. That was like literally the paper
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: that I was looking at earlier. If they feel like
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• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: they feel like it happened, then it happened or it
• 2:16:44
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  Speaker 1: you mean, paid for by men. Five dollars from each
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  Speaker 1: satirical crystal set sold will be donated to Women's Reproductive
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  Speaker 1: Rights Assistance Project WRAP, the largest national, independent and nonprofit
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  Speaker 1: abortion fund. Women's Reproductive Rights Assistance Product has been offering
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  Speaker 1: financial aid for abortion or emergency contraceptive since nineteen ninety one.
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  Speaker 1: They provide funds directly to health clinics and doctors across
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  Speaker 1: the nation, and boast relationships with reputable clinics like Planned parenthood.
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  Speaker 1: Woo wow, the one started by Margaret Sanger, the totally
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  Speaker 1: like not you know, eugenic feminists. Okay, you can also
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  Speaker 1: make a donation, so you can just skip buying the crystals.
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  Speaker 1: But why would you do that? Why deny yourself the mana.
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  Speaker 1: You'll get one of each tumbled stone. We should look
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  Speaker 1: and see what they do, what the powers are, what
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  Speaker 1: the magic is. But I want to read them off anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Carnelian tiger i, labradorite, Amazon amazonite, and citrine in a
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  Speaker 1: little cloth bag and an info card with pictures above.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, they'd say, like, there's some things. Let's see
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  Speaker 1: what they do. Favorite crystals for fighting the patriarchy, Cornelians
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  Speaker 1: orange for the fiery rage that is burning inside you.
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  Speaker 1: What does it do though? Is it just to stoke
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  Speaker 1: the fire? Are these like lightsaber crystals? Yes? Amazon Amazonite
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  Speaker 1: for the strength and stamina to argue with annoying pro lifers.
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  Speaker 1: What is this?
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  Speaker 2: Is? Just like like okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing I think.
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  Speaker 1: Look alson, I'll tell you what these exist for. These
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  Speaker 1: exists so that when feminists buy them, they can go
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  Speaker 1: to little their little you know, gatherings at like whatever
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  Speaker 1: protests are going to and they can show them to
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  Speaker 1: their friends and say, look, this is how much of
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: a better feminist I am than you because I bought
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  Speaker 1: these for fifteen dollars. Where are your crystals?
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  Speaker 7: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: And no, I'm serious. It's just like when Lenning happened
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  Speaker 1: and women were like getting blue heart tattoos on TikTok
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  Speaker 1: and they were telling other women to get blue heart tattoos.
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  Speaker 1: There was a signal like are do you have your
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: blue heart tattoo? Or are you my enemy? That's what
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  Speaker 1: it was, right or I mean, it's like countless, like
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: the ketchup bottle costumes, the pussy hats. It's just like
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  Speaker 1: whatever the new trend is. And it's interesting because it
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  Speaker 1: is a way to make money, like a real grift,
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  Speaker 1: not the stuff we're being accused of, but like a
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  Speaker 1: real one, you know. Cause, like I hate to tell
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  Speaker 1: you guys, but feminism is very mainstream. It's extremely popular,
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  Speaker 1: extremely still. Okay, So if you want to make money,
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: if you want a grift, be a feminist and you're
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: gonna make bank. I can tell you right now. If
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: I quit this show and I threw a tantrum or
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: whatever I like yelled at Alison. I said, fuck this,
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: I hate MRAs. I'm a feminist. Now I would get
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  Speaker 1: phone calls tomorrow, like do do content for you know,
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: fucking plant parenthood? In fact, who has been caught not
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: caught per se, but it's been discovered they have paid
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 1: off a lot of activists to like create content promoting abortion.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: That's where you make your money anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I find it amazing like that. We
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: just went through an article where in cels simply talking
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: about not having sex being a problem that they have
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: a problem with it, struggle with, yeah, a relationship. They're
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 2: not able to access things that they think normal people get,
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 2: like a sex life, and that's that's being seen as entitled.
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: But requiring having abortion in order to entertain yourself with
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 2: sex is a human right and then also having other
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: people pay for it. Like I'm pro choice again, but
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 2: I'm pro choice. That means I don't think people should
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: have to pay for it except for the person who's
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: choosing it. Okay, all right, so this is this is
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  Speaker 2: just okay, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, if you don't like your eye to keep
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  Speaker 1: a resilient fuck you to Supreme Court Citrin for confidence
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: to shove this stone up. Clarence Thomas's hypocritical ass This
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: is meant to satire and not to be taking seriously,
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 1: Please don't. That's not a threat of violence. But like
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: if somebody actually did do that, they'd be celebrating on TikTok.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: You know, like when they when Charlie Kirk was assassinated,
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: they celebrated even though they were like, no, no, I'm not
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: pro violence, but that was awesome labradorite protection from negative forces.
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  Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, Well, I don't like him either, So fuck
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: that guy. Okay, Allison, That's that's it.
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  Speaker 2: I read them all, Okay, all right, I guess I
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 2: should take a look to see if there's anything gone
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  Speaker 2: through the pipeline. See if you guys sent something through
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• 2:24:00
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