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Reality TV or Real Trauma? Porsha Williams x K. Michelle — Breaking Down the Drama · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: of the conversations that shake the room. Baby Now, I
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  Speaker 1: of the grind. I want to get right to the
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  Speaker 1: conversation that we are having. I have been literally having
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  Speaker 1: this conversation about who's right, who's wrong, who meant what,
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  Speaker 1: who did not for the last twenty four to forty
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  Speaker 1: eight hours, and I think that that is what good
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  Speaker 1: TV does to you, especially good reality TV. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get into this conversation about the Real Housewives of Atlanta now.
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  Speaker 1: Number one. I just want to say shout out to
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  Speaker 1: Portia Williams, because people love to act like Atlanta and
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  Speaker 1: that franchise does not carry The Real Housewives as a
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  Speaker 1: conglomerate period, and I feel like they love to make
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  Speaker 1: that statement or say that or act like that now
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  Speaker 1: because the OG girls are not there. But it was
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  Speaker 1: very evident when all of the old girls were there,
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  Speaker 1: So Porsche, Cynthia, Kenya, Nini, Kim Zoziak, like, when all
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  Speaker 1: of the og girls were there, you couldn't even have
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  Speaker 1: that conversation when all somebody'shutting you down real quick. But now,
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  Speaker 1: because people have conversations about what the cast and the
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  Speaker 1: storylines lack, they love to act like, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: people don't be tripping off of or having conversations about
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives. But here we are having a conversation and
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  Speaker 1: Portia is the lead again this season. She's the face
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  Speaker 1: of Real Housewives of Atlanta, which is a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: So wanted to make that clear Number one, because give
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  Speaker 1: my girl.
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  Speaker 2: All of her things all right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that because I'm gonna get into this
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  Speaker 1: this conversation and be a little critical of portion. And
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  Speaker 1: you guys know, on any platform that I've been on,
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  Speaker 1: I've always talked about how much I love Porsche. I
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  Speaker 1: think she is a fun girl. I think she is
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  Speaker 1: great to talk to. She is beautiful, a successful business woman,
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  Speaker 1: but she's very smart. She is the show. She deserves
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  Speaker 1: to be the show. And if you follow her moves,
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  Speaker 1: not even just on her house Hose of Atlanta. What
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  Speaker 1: you realize is that she's one of the girls that
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  Speaker 1: is really using this to create a business, like a
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  Speaker 1: million dollar, multimillion dollar business for herself. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't do nothing but kudos to her. But let's
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  Speaker 1: get into it.
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  Speaker 2: So on this.
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  Speaker 1: Last episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta, it is a
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  Speaker 1: season seventeen, episode seven, Cay Michelle is you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: a question that has come out of it because of
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  Speaker 1: Cay Michelle and Porscha Williams, And the question.
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  Speaker 3: Is is Ky Michelle reaching for a storyline that isn't all
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  Speaker 3: the hers according to Portie or are we seeing in
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  Speaker 3: real time?
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  Speaker 1: You know, what is the cause and effect of years
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  Speaker 1: in the spotlight and years on reality TV and a
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  Speaker 1: person be traumatized and then triggered, you know by certain
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  Speaker 1: situations that they are now reoccurring back in the reality
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  Speaker 1: show space. As we know, Kate Michelle big face of
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  Speaker 1: love and hip hop and went through a lot there
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  Speaker 1: and Campbashell made it very clear when she returned to
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  Speaker 1: reality TV through Housewives of Atlanta in conversation with Porscha
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  Speaker 1: and Porsche has even talked about this that you know
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  Speaker 1: she felt out it by the Love and Hip Hop
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  Speaker 1: cast members basically mean like meaning like you know, push
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  Speaker 1: to the outskirts, drug through the mud.
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  Speaker 2: It just wasn't a good.
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  Speaker 1: Experience for her, according to her, So coming back into
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  Speaker 1: this reality TV show space, she kind of you know
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning, and that's why I'm so sad to
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  Speaker 1: see the relationship plan out like this right now. Leaned
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  Speaker 1: on Porsche Williams a lot to be her friend in
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  Speaker 1: the space that she could actually trust and understand and
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  Speaker 1: you know, just all of these things. But now the
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  Speaker 1: chatter it has has been divided. So Porsie Williams and
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  Speaker 1: K Michelle on episode seven. Honestly, there was an there
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  Speaker 1: was a moment in episode six as well, but we'll
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  Speaker 1: focus on episode seven. So in episode seven, Porsche Williams
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  Speaker 1: and K Michelle had a moment surrounding some oysters. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about this a bit on the Breakfast Club,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm giving you guys this background because then I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna take you into some new information that we haven't
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  Speaker 1: had a chance to discuss to really make it and
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  Speaker 1: I believe it to you guys to make a decision
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  Speaker 1: on who's right who's wrong. Here, so they get into
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  Speaker 1: a conversation about oysters and episode seven, let's take a
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  Speaker 1: listen check.
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  Speaker 4: Them for you first, what are you checking for? What
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  Speaker 4: is you doing? What are you checking for? Okay, poor
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  Speaker 4: Chet checking it.
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  Speaker 5: That va giants plane at.
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  Speaker 1: That vagina is clay.
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  Speaker 4: This is odd to me. What are you checking for?
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  Speaker 4: Does she always smell oysters?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Before we get into what the conversation is, I
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  Speaker 1: do want to give you guys some background info and
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  Speaker 1: some background facts because if you guys are not familiar,
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  Speaker 1: and this is the part that we talked about on
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club as well too, Kay Michelle. Some years ago,
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  Speaker 1: there was a big thing. It was a super viral
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  Speaker 1: you know moments, several different moments that were supervival where
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  Speaker 1: there were allegations by an ex someone that she was dating,
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  Speaker 1: that there was a body odor, that her vagina had
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  Speaker 1: an older and she was very clear and you know,
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  Speaker 1: very not backing down at all about coming out and
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  Speaker 1: making sure that she cleared up the rum or wherever
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  Speaker 1: it spread too, because I mean, as a woman, that's
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  Speaker 1: just not something you want to get a conversation, you
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  Speaker 1: even want to play with at all.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a thing. It happened some years ago,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a big thing for her.
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  Speaker 1: It was a big conversation and she was very vocal about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at that time and even the years following,
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  Speaker 1: how that situation and people having a conversation affected her,
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  Speaker 1: like how it hurt her, hurt her feelings, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 1: and traumatized her to a bit. As we are seeing
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  Speaker 1: play out here on Royal Housewives of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the girls are all on this cash trip. They're
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  Speaker 2: in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: They're supporting Cynthia Billy because Cynthia Bailly is doing like
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  Speaker 1: a new tequila venture, having this big gala.
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  Speaker 2: Over there in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: And during the trip, it's weird because Cay Michelle starts
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  Speaker 1: off and on the trip and she's having a really
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  Speaker 1: good time and a lot of the conversation this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning of the episode, production be doing her thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, exactly what they be doing is about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that Cay Michelle is comfortable and she know, she
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  Speaker 1: feels like she's found, you know, even through all of
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  Speaker 1: the mess, the goodness and a lot of the ladies
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  Speaker 1: and these are the men that like she watched for
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  Speaker 1: some time and this is what she was looking for
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  Speaker 1: enjoying the franchise. But boy does that quickly change once
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  Speaker 1: that oyster conversation that we just listened to happens. After
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  Speaker 1: the oyster conversation happens, Kay Michelle then has a discussion
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  Speaker 1: about not feeling safe at the table and she's breaking
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  Speaker 1: down or just within the group, and she's breaking down.
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  Speaker 1: Now as she's breaking down, you have all of the
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  Speaker 1: women surrounding her, Porsche Williams, Cynthia Bailey, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the girls are there trying to figure out what's
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  Speaker 1: wrong and trying to make her feel better.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to that.
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  Speaker 6: So that they thought that they was going to address
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  Speaker 6: with me and Dinna Phoom, Drew Portia and Phage.
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  Speaker 4: Portia. She was knee and she was a part of
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  Speaker 4: the prodcast.
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  Speaker 1: Why I just saying looking stupid and you'd be playing
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  Speaker 1: with me the first when I get to being okay, well.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy, I am heartbroken.
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  Speaker 6: I watch these women who have dealt with things from
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  Speaker 6: gossip try to judge me.
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  Speaker 4: That vaginas clean. I don't know this one might be
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  Speaker 4: a little sain.
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  Speaker 6: Talk about a rumor that a disgruntled X said eight
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  Speaker 6: years ago. I already know who you contactic, what blogs
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  Speaker 6: you called to go read that and want to spread that.
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  Speaker 6: I think that is very disheartening and that shows the
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  Speaker 6: character of these women, the trauma that was caused by
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  Speaker 6: the rumor. It really hasn't gotten better. I can say
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  Speaker 6: I'm healed, I'm healed like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of people, but I haven't and I don't know when
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  Speaker 2: I will.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to let y'all keep playing in my
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  Speaker 6: face like I don't hear, like I don't see, leave
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  Speaker 6: me beat, because it keeps building up, and when it
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  Speaker 6: gets to.
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  Speaker 2: Work and need to get to I'm a curse at
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  Speaker 2: them the out Now.
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  Speaker 1: You'll notice in this clip she never directly says to Porsia,
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  Speaker 1: you said this. Why would you say that this made
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  Speaker 1: me feel this way? You're who I'm talking about. She
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  Speaker 1: directs something at Drew, but she never directly says that
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  Speaker 1: to Porsia. She then goes and has another conversation very
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  Speaker 1: separate Porscha's not there with Shemiah and a couple of
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  Speaker 1: the other ladies about the fact that you know, she
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  Speaker 1: was talking about Porsche, right, So her and Shamiya kind
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  Speaker 1: of had this like bonding moment over that because as
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  Speaker 1: we know, Shemiyah has went through her own issues with
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  Speaker 1: Portia Williams, which has resulted in their relationship being like
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  Speaker 1: nonexistent to an extent. But I went back today and
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  Speaker 1: I was watching some of the interviews that Porsia Williams
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  Speaker 1: has done in the last couple of weeks, one of
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  Speaker 1: them being an interview that she did Carlos King. Because
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  Speaker 1: in the midst of all of this, the fire that
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  Speaker 1: they started, right you got Cave Michelle on Twitter, Portia
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  Speaker 1: Williams on Twitter. Ky Michelle's calling Portia Williams a coward
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  Speaker 1: and saying like, you know you you basically you know
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  Speaker 1: what you did. Porsia Williams is right at ky Michelle
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter, calling her Twitter fingers, you know, saying like, look,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm a coward, you a coward too, because if
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  Speaker 1: something was going on and it had something to do
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  Speaker 1: with me, you should have addressed it right then and there.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we do on Real Housewives of Atlanta. So
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  Speaker 1: and then ky Michelle lleges that Porsche slept with one
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  Speaker 1: of her exes, like it's it's a whole thing. So
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  Speaker 1: that's going down, And in the midst of that, Carlos
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  Speaker 1: King tweets out a video.
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  Speaker 2: Clip of Porsche and I had seen this interview.
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  Speaker 1: Prior to but I didn't watch it in full. I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't even gotten to this part that he tweeted out.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, Carlos King is the reality
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  Speaker 1: show King. Shout out to Carlos King. He's also hearing
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  Speaker 1: the Black Effect podcast network. He don't do nothing, by
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  Speaker 1: a chance. So I'm like, let me go and rewatch
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  Speaker 1: his interview real quick to see if she directly addresses this,
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  Speaker 1: which again, this was two weeks before this episode even premiere,
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  Speaker 1: so there's no way she would have directly stated what
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  Speaker 1: was about to happen early.
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  Speaker 2: Because these girls signed contracts. You can't tell the storyline.
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  Speaker 1: You just have to let it play out and then
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  Speaker 1: at the reunion and following that we get it on
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  Speaker 1: into the things, right. But I go watch the interview
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  Speaker 1: and there's a part of the interview where Portia addresses
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  Speaker 1: the whole miscarriage conversation for lack thereof with Kim Michelle
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  Speaker 1: and what she meant by that.
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  Speaker 7: Let's say a listen the miscarriage comment. I'm sure you
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  Speaker 7: saw the comments. It seemed to be pretty split whether
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  Speaker 7: or not you intentionally meant it to harm her or
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  Speaker 7: it was just something that you know, you said off
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  Speaker 7: the top of your dome. You are somebody who is
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  Speaker 7: an ambassador for the March of Dimes. You are somebody
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  Speaker 7: again going back to season six where you talked about
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  Speaker 7: having a miscarriage right and you cried about the fact
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  Speaker 7: that you were there per week and Cordell didn't only
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  Speaker 7: show them one time, like, this is something that you
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  Speaker 7: have dealt with. What would you like to say, because
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  Speaker 7: cay Michelle did do tweets even after the episode air
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  Speaker 7: where we saw the episode in and it seemed like
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  Speaker 7: y'all huggod out, everything is good, but then the tweets
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  Speaker 7: started to happen afterwards where she sort of is doubling
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  Speaker 7: down on she doesn't trust you. What do you have
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  Speaker 7: to say about that.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's another situation where someone has decided that
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  Speaker 5: this is the route they need to take. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think this is the route that ky Michelle needs to
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  Speaker 5: take or has to take. I think it's the wrong road.
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  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, if you have
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  Speaker 5: been watching the show and then you are finally on
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  Speaker 5: the show, you decide this is how you're going to enter.
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  Speaker 4: This is how I make my mark. Then it is
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  Speaker 4: what it is, This is the game she decides to play.
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  Speaker 1: But then they get into a conversation about storylines and
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  Speaker 1: girls coming into the franchise and needing the storyline.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to that.
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  Speaker 5: When I watched came Michelle her punishment was too hard
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  Speaker 5: for what she called the crime.
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  Speaker 4: I said, okay, I picked them up on.
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  Speaker 5: I text her because that's how I am, as candy
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  Speaker 5: as anybody as your right if you do, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm a text right away as I'm watching the show,
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  Speaker 5: and I said, hey, I just want you to know
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching a show, and I see that you still
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  Speaker 5: didn't feel or you were still upset with you know,
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  Speaker 5: me speaking to you about the situation. I said, I
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  Speaker 5: want you to know I am sincere and that I
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  Speaker 5: never would have wanted to offend you about that. When
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  Speaker 5: I spoke with Shamiyah, she never told me any detail.
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  Speaker 5: You never told me anything of a detail of your bottom.
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  Speaker 4: You know it. I never would have done that, and
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  Speaker 4: I just want you to know from my heart.
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  Speaker 5: Even though I saw her call me on them names,
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  Speaker 5: I was like, fuck all that let me make her
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  Speaker 5: as a woman understand that at the root of it,
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  Speaker 5: I never would have made fun of you. She said, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I truly appreciate that, et cetera. And you know, I
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  Speaker 5: appreciate you reenterating that you didn't know were blah blah.
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  Speaker 5: So I said, okay, cool, put the phone down.
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  Speaker 4: We were done.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 5: The next day she's tweeting saying, oh, well, you know,
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  Speaker 5: what if you was to die and what are you
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  Speaker 5: doubling down? I was like, okay, I see what I'm
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  Speaker 5: dealing with, I seem deal with and I listen. I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to go too hard on ca Michelle. I
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  Speaker 5: just say this in general, as a person in any space.
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  Speaker 5: You could be at work, they could be a family member,
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  Speaker 5: it could be a friend. If you are in any
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  Speaker 5: group and you are talking to somebody and they don't
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  Speaker 5: have a heart to understand you, they don't want to
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  Speaker 5: understand you. It could be for whatever reason, ratings or
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  Speaker 5: want to be want to be right, or just want
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  Speaker 5: to see if what's wrong.
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  Speaker 4: They're never gonna understand.
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  Speaker 5: They're never gonna actually say out loud, oh I understand,
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  Speaker 5: because they're too busy trying to do something else.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever, that else may be so I said, okay, cool.
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  Speaker 5: So at this point, you know, I know what else
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  Speaker 5: happens in the season. And although she's funny and she's
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  Speaker 5: a door, I don't know how it's gonna go over.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that what was happening with her and
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  Speaker 5: Drew is going to go over as well as maybe
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  Speaker 5: she thinks it will. I don't, And I think, if
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  Speaker 5: I'm being honest, I think that when she looks back
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  Speaker 5: at this first season, she'd probably be like, oh, I
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  Speaker 5: probably chose the wrong team and I probably should have
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  Speaker 5: gone about things in a more authentic way.
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  Speaker 1: So as I'm watching this, I'm like, oh, so she
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  Speaker 1: could talk about the miscarriage thing, because at the point
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  Speaker 1: of that interview that had already happened and showed, so
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  Speaker 1: did another firestorm on Twitter that it went down from
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  Speaker 1: k Michelle and Portia Williams. Right, And it seems like
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  Speaker 1: in the moment while watching that in roal time, because
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  Speaker 1: these girls are experiencing this in real time like they're
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  Speaker 1: living it, but as we're watching it as it airs,
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  Speaker 1: they're also reliving it again. But I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: from what it sounds like, Porsche was called off guard
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  Speaker 1: because as she was rewatching it in real time. She
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  Speaker 1: shot came and Shelle text and tried to you know,
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  Speaker 1: clear everything, apologize, move forward in good faith, Like she's
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  Speaker 1: trying to be a real bitch about it, like excuse
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  Speaker 1: my French. But if I'm being honest, she's confronting what
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  Speaker 1: the mix up was. Because even in that episode, Kay
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  Speaker 1: Michelle never said anything to Porsche about feeling how she
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  Speaker 1: felt about the statement. But they cleared it up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: according to Porsche, they moved on. Kate Michelle has not
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  Speaker 1: commented on you know, that background information that Porsche wi
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  Speaker 1: gave on that moment. But the second part where she's
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  Speaker 1: talking about the storylines and girls you know, coming in
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  Speaker 1: and having to you know, figure out the storyline and
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  Speaker 1: all these things, I'm like, oh, Porsche was kind of
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  Speaker 1: giving us a little clue about what we were about
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  Speaker 1: to see moving forward in these episodes, or what she's
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  Speaker 1: alleging Kate Michelle's pattern of behavior is going to be
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  Speaker 1: for what we're going to see coming up next.
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  Speaker 2: And now that we've.
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  Speaker 1: Seen what came up next and you go back and
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  Speaker 1: listen to this, I'm like, Okay, so Porsche feels like
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  Speaker 1: Kay Michelle thinks that this is what she has to
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  Speaker 1: do to create a storyline for herself on the show,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: lean into things that are not really things. Now, I'll
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: admit again the miscarriage moment, I can understand why from everything,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: from all the information I have right now, I can
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: understand why Porsiche.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Would have been a little bit like wait what, I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: didn't even mean it that way.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I can also understand the sensitivity on Okay, Michelle's side,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: because it's something that is happening to her and she's
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: been very vocal about, you know, the changes that she's
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: had to physically make to her body to literally keep
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: herself alive. These are very traumatic experiences. And Porsia, you know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: has had a miscarriage before and has talked about it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: These things are very traumatic experiences. So I understand both sides.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: But it's easy to give Portsia a benefit of a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: doubt in this situation because it was never addressed, and
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: when she did address it, they moved on.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: She explained, boom, now they're here, right, So.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: It seems like this is happening again, but this time
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: when this happens with the whole vagina situation, you know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I saw like the episode prior where Kelly mentions that
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Portia Williams Punani or her hot pocket sme I was
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: like cheetos.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: It was real quick.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: You had to catch it and all the girls were
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: screaming when she said it. But let's take a listen
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to that. This is the episode prior to episode seven.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: It's episode six at the very end. Let's take a listen.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: You should be able to read a little bit. Get
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: you ever.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Like everything. I'm like, okay, are you the saying.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say it?
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Che what?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And that right there is where episode seven picks up at.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So we're thrown right into that right so I can
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: understand number one, why people are covering it the way
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that they're covering it as blanket. Why would Porsche say
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that because in Porscha's comments about the oysters, the vagina, whatever,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it's easy to like infer that she's talking to Kelly,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: but she doesn't say it directly to her, and they're
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: directly having these back and forth.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: On the show up until this point.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Now, granted, the girls throw in direct shade all day long,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: you know that they are not.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Porsia is not absent or absolved of doing that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: But in my mind as I'm watching it, literally, even
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: after seeing the prior episode, the first thing I thought
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: of was like, wait, is she being funny the game Michelle,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: because every that conversation was like a it was it
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: was a thing.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: It was here, it was big.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: There were lot of people talking about it, so I,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you know, was just like, oh, I know, the producers
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: don't have her plan with kay Michelle like that, like
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: uh uh no, no, no, no no. And the reason
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: why I say the producers is because in my mind,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, and again I'm reinterting, reenterating what I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: saw on Breakfast Club, but I'm able to explain a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: bit better here.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: It's two things for me. It's either on one side,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Poorscher really wasn't.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Even talking to Kate Michelle, and it was just something
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that she threw in conversation, whether she was being shady
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: or she was just having a good time. Because you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Porscha's dating girls, and there's a lot of things you
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: can point to that have led up to that moment
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: where Porsche will be talking about Osius and Vagina or
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you got your story producers behind the scenes on reality TV,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and Kate Michelle said in one of her tweets, I'm
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: not trying to hear nothing y'all talking about because the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: way that things are produced by these girls behind the scenes,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I'm buying it, right. So Kate Michelle believes that this
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: is a producer up moment that is a part of
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: this big plot. Porsche has not come out and clarified
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: any of who she was talking to or why. Again,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of times they cannot because we have more
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: episodes to go on the show. But Portia was on
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Serry Shepherd prior to and I know that this was
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: prior to her seeing the episode air on Bravo, so
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: seeing how it was edited to air to fans because
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Cherry Shepard's show is no longer recording live, so all
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of this was pre taped some weeks ago, right, and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: so that means she would have lived it in real time,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: sought however she felt about it, and then when and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: spoke on this prior to watching how it was aired
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: on Bravo.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to Porscha and Sheriff Shepherd.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and but you know it get like that
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: sometimes you're not gonna like everybody on the cash. You know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Trew is absolutely amazing star kay Michelle has joined the
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: show and shook.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: It up like she shaped tables.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Yes, and you know one thing about it, I think
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: that a lot of people who haven't done reality TV
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: before come on and they're being thirsty, you know, But
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: these girls are being spicy.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Are new girls.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: They're not thirsty, they're spicy, spicy because they're already established.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: They're already that girl. He's that girl.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: She's a business entrepreneur, has done everything and made millions
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: and millions. And then you have kay Michelle, who's established singer,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: county singer, groundbreaker.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm glad that we have some real heavy hitters
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: now on the shop.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Well you got the heavy hitters.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: And it's interesting because they didn't let me know.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: We don't.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: You know, they're spicy, but you know it is very
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: spicy because I know that you're the.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Fellow housewife, Kelly Ferrell.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's been throwing accusations that you've been sleeping
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: with married men. Now is that spicy or is that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a major issue?
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, she is just like dragging tea from like
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: four years ago. Like, you know, one thing I can
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: say again, going back to some of the new girls,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: going back to Angela Oakley who is joined the show.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: This show is about showing black women who are established,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: who have a wonderful life, fulfilled life in them, in
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: themselves so they don't have to focus on other people.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: If they end up focusing on you, they're gonna read
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: you right, but they're not making me their storyline.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Those women, you know, you pay attention to them. They
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: got it going on. You know, they got businesses, they
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: got husbands and got things.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: And I just think it's very unfortunate when some of
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: the girls come on the show and they have to
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: kind of search and.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Reach and and she's always reaching for other reasons, but
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you know, just that is that reaching. You're reaching and
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: then you can't quite get it. Who even handed her
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: to peach?
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but I listen Kelly. Sometimes she's cool,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: sometimes she's not. I think that if you can dish
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: it out, you should be able to receive it back
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: to you, yes.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: And you should be able to move on.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: I think it is very clear she tried to come
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: in hot and I just cooled her down.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Again. She is doubling down on the girls needing storylines
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to be in the game.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Still giving kymachelle her pops, but talking about the storylines,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and that's my thing. It's like we're trying to decipher here,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like what is a storyline for either one of the girls,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: for Porsche Williams or for Kyve Michelle.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: And what is not?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: And I feel like this is my feeling.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It's not fat My feeling in this is as I'm
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: watching all of this unfold and Porsche is responding and
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: came into Cay Michelle's tweet, why not just say, girl,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that wasn't even meant for you? That makes everybody point
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to Okay, she probably throwing that back at Kelly. Okay,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you know Porsche Porsche dating girls now, so we know
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: where she at with it, you know what I mean? Like,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: why not just say that now? She could also just
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: be leaving that out because you know she's drumming up.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: We got some more episodes to watch, but we just
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: gotta I guess, we just gotta wait and see. But
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I want to know how you guys feel like in
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: this world of reality TV. Do you feel like all
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: is fair in reality TV? In war or do you
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: feel like portia O's Kay Michelle a sense of loyalty
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to a certain extent, in peace to a certain extent,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: because she's her friend that kind of held her hand
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: bringing her into this franchise.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I want to know how you guys feel.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Get at me all over social I'm Lauren Lo Rosa
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: l O r e N l O R O s A,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And I tell you, guys, you know, every single episode,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: y'all could be anywhere talking about all these things with everybody.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Literally everybody is talking about this right now, but y'all
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: are right here with me having a conversation about it,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: my lowriders.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys, and I'll catch you in my
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: next episode.