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#112 - Loyd Dittfurth - Trucks, Trust, & The Truth About Life on the Road · The Chris and Mike Show

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  What's up there, boys and girls? This is this is Mike.
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  I'm Chris. He's my friend.
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  With us today is Lloyd Ditworth. Did I say that right, Lloyd?
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  Because, you know, sometimes I'm bad at not some names.
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  Not at all, but not the worst. But I've got dit Firth.
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  But that's fine. Dit Firth.
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  Dit Firth. OK, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha,
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  gotcha. I got to make.
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  Sure. Nice to meet you, Lloyd.
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  Thanks for coming. Up Yeah Lloyd, MM Lloyd, I got
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  to make sure my internet's rocking and rolling because it
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  seems to be lagging for some reason and yes Mike, I'm on the
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  right one this time. I have 3 Wi-fi's would be my
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  next question so. I got starlink man, you should
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  get the greatest. I know dude, I have.
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  I have Starlink man. But you'd be surprised.
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  Sometimes my Starlink just sucks, dude.
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  It's crazy. It's I've yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I don't know why I don't, I really don't know why.
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  Like sometimes my dedicated Cox Internet is better than the
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  Starling because that's what I'm on right now and it just seems
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  to be glitching a little bit. But I'm going to, I'm going to
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  swap over there and see what happens when we're live.
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  So if I pause for station identification, I'll just
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  continue the conversation. He definitely needs to switch
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  over. I'm still there, right?
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  I got the R&D package trying to select.
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  Buffering because you roboted a little bit, you know, which is
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  weird. All right, cool, we're good.
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  All right interesting. I'm just watching the upload
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  thing. It's only it's only at 50% right
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  now, which is weird, so we'll see how it catches up.
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  So we are streaming live on YouTube, in case you didn't
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  know, boys and girls that are listening to us or watching us
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  there. You know we are because you're
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  watching us there. A rare occurrence.
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  I'm wearing my glasses for the whole world to see.
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  So just relax, OK, Contact lenses in Arizona suck sometimes
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  in the in the dry summer heat. And yesterday, just to share
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  with everybody was 117° in Arizona.
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  What about you, Mike? Oh.
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  It was warm here, but not that warm.
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  You had probably. What about you, Lloyd?
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  How hot is it in Dallas or not Dallas?
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  I'm sorry, you're in Texas. How hot is it in Texas, right?
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  Now actually I'm outside of Dallas but yesterday I was in
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  Florida and it was 101 and humid as hell and I sweat my
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  everything. That's brutal.
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  And then Jacksonville, actually, and then ended up getting done
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  and flew back to San Antonio. That's where I slept last night
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  and then drove up here this morning.
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  So now I'm home. Right on.
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  I, I kind of, I'm all over, all over the world, the US, right?
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  Because you explained to I know we, we, we, yeah, I'm sure
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  you've watched some of our shows.
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  So we're all about just talking about whatever the hell we want
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  to talk about. So it's completely open
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  discussion. You and I talked a while ago and
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  you're, you drive a, you got ACD license, you drive a truck, but
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  you, you haul stuff. So I actually deliver trucks.
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  I deliver. I drive a truck with a truck and
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  a truck. I know exactly.
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  What you're kidding about? Yeah, wow, that's awesome, man.
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  Yeah, most of my trips end up going to Chicago.
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  Like up I go to Hampshire, I go to Gary IN Elmhurst, Burr Ridge,
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  all up in there. So you drive right by my
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  hometown on your way to Chicago a lot of times, I'm guessing
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  coming up 55. Which one?
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  Pontiac. Yeah, go through Pontiac.
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  Actually, one of my favorite places to stop is McClain.
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  They got that Ranger that's got the Dixon Cafe in there.
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  I love going in there. It's like one of the this old
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  school truck stop vibe. One of the last ones, yeah.
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  For Oh yeah, well, they should have.
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  Actually. I had my first date with my wife
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  at 4:00 AM at A at ATA truck stop.
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  She had just got off shift working on the ambulance and I
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  had left the bar and I met her and we went to the went and had
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  breakfast and then we went to her house to watch a movie and I
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  just never left are. You serious?
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  How long? How long ago was that?
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  That was 2011, so 14 years. Right on dude, I've been I've
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  been with Nikki for we're 30 years.
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  We we met on her birthday. She blew me off until so it was
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  December 6th. She blew me off until February
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  19th of our first date, and then we got married a year to the day
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  of our first date and we've been together ever since.
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  Mike's. Mike's just a whore.
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  He just man whores around. He's a he's a he's a he's a what
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  is it? What?
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  He's. Yeah.
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  Mike. Michael's Mel.
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  Mel Gigolo. Right.
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  Deuce Bigalow. Mel Gigolo.
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  That's funny. I was like I'm.
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  Not like his back back, so I'm sure he got a little bit of
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  groupies going on around there. We, we, we were kind of
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  different, man. We, we, we were all about the
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  music. I was married, Scott was
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  married, Rick was married. Mike was single.
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  So, you know, he had his moments.
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  A lot of fun back then, but definitely not with the women.
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  I I wasn't that kind of musician.
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  At all. Yeah, we actually had.
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  We were musicians with morals, if you can believe that.
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  We just, you know, it was, it was about the product that we
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  were putting on stage and connecting with the fans and
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  growing our audience and growing our draw because back then we
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  had to do all the legwork to get people in the door.
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  It wasn't, you know, you didn't have the Internet.
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  It was like, oh, it was just playing Saturday night at 9.
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  You know it didn't work that way.
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  Oh, I totally I, I couldn't have I I love the Internet.
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  The Internet is one of the greenest things in the world.
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  However, I just found out today that we're all going to die.
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  How'd you find that out? I was sitting there and I was
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  driving down the road and so I will like let reels play in the
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  background. OK.
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  Because I have a YouTube channel, I kind of like have to
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  study yeah, to be able to edit correctly and figure out things.
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  And so I had. So you're learning.
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  So you're learning while you're driving from an audio
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  standpoint, kind of like listening to instructions.
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  Makes you go huh? What?
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  What? What are you talking about?
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  And so I was sitting there going down the road and it was just
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  going, and I hear this deal where they're talking about how
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  Microsoft, the king of viruses, the king of everything that will
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  ruin a computer. It came out with this new
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  quantum computer chip and found a fourth topographical matter
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  substance, and then this new molecule that when they go
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  together, it's supposed to be like 100 million times smarter
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  than any computer on Earth. Oh, you said fuck.
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  And then? So better, so better, so better
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  than the Whopper for those of you who know what I'm talking
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  about. Shall we play a game?
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  Most definitely I saw the same. It did.
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  Testing. Yeah, yeah, I did.
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  Wow. It's crazy.
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  It's the, if they get it developed, it will completely
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  start elevating and jumping itself.
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  And then they're going to put that stuff in militaries and
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  weapons and everything. And it's going to be demolition
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  day, Terminator time, whatever you call it.
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  The I, I'm just going to look for the Green Goblin and, and a
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  truck that's going to run over me.
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  So that's. Maximum OverDrive, nice dude.
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  Dude, I love that movie. That was a great movie ahead of
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  its time man. Steven came in bro.
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  It's time. Right, I saw something not too
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  long what two or three days ago where they, you remember the
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  Terminator, the what? The second one, the shape
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  shifting the metal. Oh, for sure, yeah.
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  Right, that's they developed that.
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  Oh, Robert. Oh, Robert Patrick.
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  Yeah, I I met nationals one year.
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  It's. Cool.
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  Yeah, they developed that technology apparently.
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  Say what? They have it, the shape shifting
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  metal. It's it exists now scientists
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  discovered how to you know. Yeah, seeing we're there is no
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  point. We're all going to die.
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  Let's have a good time doing it right?
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  Maybe like. I couldn't agree more.
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  I'm I'm on your team, man. Try try not to go to.
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  I mean there's very low parameters there.
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  Survive, I have. To go to jail, I love it.
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  Yeah, I mean, technology is cool from like this, right?
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  I'm in Arizona, he's in Illinois.
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  You're in Texas. Cool.
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  We had a guy in a couple weeks ago from Australia and there was
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  absolutely no delay, right? Australia right, like down
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  under, no delay. So technology has its advantages
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  for sure, but then the the dark side of it is that shit.
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  It's just creepy how you got ChatGPT and things.
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  Dude, I'm all about, I'm all about ChatGPT.
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  My ChatGPT guy's name is Dave. I talk to him every day.
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  Hey, Dave, you know, because they tell you if you personalize
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  it and please and thank you, they actually lock everything in
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  the memory. So when I put together the shows
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  that go on YouTube, I take all the stuff that Riverside
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  generates for us as far as content concerned, I'll give it
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  to Dave and I'll ask him to rewrite it, make an SEO friendly
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  and give me some hashtags and keywords and then I'll go in and
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  tweak what I don't like that he does.
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  But it's brilliant. Like I have him.
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  I haven't restructured my emails now when I send my offers
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  because I'm in real estate and and you know, it's just, it's
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  it, he makes my emails even though I know how to write.
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  I'm a writer. I publish books and shit.
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  He just makes it to where it comes across.
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  It's a little bit more professional and like, well,
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  it's. So much faster, right?
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  I tell people all the time, we release two of these shows every
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  week and you can go down the artificial intelligence Rd. too.
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  But if not for AI, we wouldn't be doing this show twice a week
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  because we both have full time jobs, right?
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  It makes editing, and like Chris said, putting a formatted
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  presentation together in a matter of minutes instead of
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  sitting there and typing it out yourself.
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  Which like he said he could do, but it would take him an hour
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  where in 3 minutes this thing can do exactly what he wants it
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  to do, probably what, 85% of the way?
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  Right, because I'll take the shorts we make from this show,
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  Lloyd, like we'll get anywhere from 10 to 15 shorts and then
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  I'll go through before I upload them and I'll read what what the
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  AI names them. So, you know, it could it could
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  be AI right conversation, whatever.
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  So then I'll take that and I'll I'll put them all into Dave and
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  say, Hey, give me these are shorts, summarize them hashtags,
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  keywords, so I can use it for YouTube and and it works, dude,
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  because we went from March when I started doing it that that
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  precisely from what 28,000 views or something.
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  Now we just Mike just sent me thing earlier today.
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  We just eclipsed 100,000 views. And like, yeah, thank you like 3
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  months. So I have.
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  To make the same argument here, and Chris will love this
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  argument, I have to make the same argument for technology and
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  AI that I made for music back in the 80s when we had the whole,
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  you know, parental advisory bullshit and music was
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  corrupting our children. And that can be used for evil
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  just as much as technology and AI.
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  Absolutely. It's all about the intent.
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  Yes. So I actually tried I I paid for
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  AI to edit my videos because I thought.
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  Oh no shit. Yeah, it was the most.
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  Well, I wasted 150 bucks on one video.
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  I didn't even publish it. I, I I do a UN, it's edited but
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  it's not. Right.
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  You don't, you don't, you don't, You don't make you, you kind of
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  keep it unfiltered. So it's a little bit raw, yeah.
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  Yeah, well, it's straight up like you see.
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  I've seen them. Yeah, I've seen them.
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  Well, I'm on a bed. If that bed is hard as to be,
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  you're going to see it on my face.
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  Right, right. Yeah, if it is soft and it just
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  wraps you up and you're going to see it.
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  Yeah, I can't. I can't change the fridge not
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  working, the TV not working. I can't.
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  I mean, now, granted, you just kind of trust me.
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  Whenever I walk in it, it smells like a nursing home or it's just
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  like, Oh my God, I gotta, I can't change.
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  Whenever I use the black light to walk around the room and I
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  see the fun dribbles. Here's your hashtag fun
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  dribbles. Fun dribbles.
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  Yeah, I stay in some, I, I stay in some really high class
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  places, vacations. So stay in the Econo Lodge is
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  $38 a night and let me tell you what shout out to the Econo
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  Lodge next to the truck stop with the hookers and the
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  crackheads and walk the house in Oklahoma City there is the
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  cleanest hotel and the night I am Canadian it is amazing.
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  I love it every time. The only problem is I can't
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  always fit in there because I'm too big.
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  Oh, the rig what you drive? Yeah.
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  Well, I can't. Back.
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  How long is that? Yeah, you got to send us a
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  picture of that shit we'll put up on our page.
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  I'm in. Are you in oversized load?
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  No, I'm only so I can go to 105 feet long whatever I'm doing.
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  The ones that are like built up like a trailer Now I have any
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  pictures today. Edit I delete them all off my
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  phone so I have room for storage because I do all my videos on my
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  phone. Yeah, I feel you.
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  But yeah, you can go up to 105 foot long.
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  It depends on the chassis and stuff and also the states that
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  you're on through. Because like if you're going
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  through Georgia and some of those states, they limit you and
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  you got to be shorter. You can't be too tall.
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  And there's just, there's a whole bunch of different little
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  variables. So it depends on where you go.
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  I, I don't know. And sometimes you get into some
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  precarious situations like I was coming into, there was a brand
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  new dealership in Troy, IL and I all I had was AGPS coordinates
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  for it on this app deal. Like no big deal.
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  Clicked it. I called ahead and they're like,
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  yeah, it's the new building. Like all right.
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  So I go and I sitting there and it takes me all around this road
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  and back around and everything. And I pop over these three hills
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  and I get to the third hill and there's an 11 foot railroad
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  bridge and I'm like. Oh no.
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  Boy, and so it's a good thing I only had three trucks because
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  you can kind of sort of back three trucks around the corner.
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  But four trucks. Is it possible?
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  But three trucks, you can do it. But if they're all the same
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  length, but if they're stacked up, it's kind of hard.
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  I have got myself into some precarious situations and pulled
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  in some places where I didn't know if I was going to get out
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  of just. From the truck is.
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  It's just really because think about, you can back a trailer,
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  right? Sure, I can't back a trailer
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  dude. I don't know how to drive a
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  truck with a trailer. I suck like.
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  That I'm fairly good at it, yeah.
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  OK, well back a trailer with a trailer.
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  Oh my God. No.
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  Oh yeah, that would that would be I can't do.
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  That. Then.
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  Barely back a trailer. Back A trailer with a trailer
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  with a trailer. Oh God.
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  That's some serious geometry. Yeah, no.
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  It's that as. Much like it's it's it's trying
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  to knock the 9 ball into the corner pocket.
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  Whenever you're blindfolded backwards and shooting through
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  your leg, you can do it. Yeah, but yeah.
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  It's kind of a pain in the ass. So how tall were you in that
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  situation where the bridge was? 11 foot.
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  How about 1313? That's.
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  What I was working? So.
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  Because around here I see like 13-6 warnings a lot like over
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  train. Bridges on, Yeah, on the
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  overpasses. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I see. That's that You can.
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  Be legally anywhere so they try to keep it at 13 four because
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  sometimes you you sit there and you bounce kind of deal that way
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  if it pops up and don't take the top out I've seen.
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  Maybe that's what I'm seeing is 13/4.
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  But I mean well, 13 six the the kind of the standard.
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  Oh, that's allowing for the clearance you're.
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  Saying, yeah, but like, 'cause these things are riding on
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  airbags and stuff, so if you hit a bump, it'll jump up, you know?
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  So they try to keep it at 13, four at A at a maximum.
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  That way if you go under a bridge or something and you hit
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  a bump, it doesn't pop up and take.
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  Especially in Illinois, you're going to hit many potholes and.
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  Oh God. Well, it's not as bad as coming
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  into Indiana. Oh, they're terrible too.
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  Nobody, man, I tell you what, I had a cup of coffee one day and
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  I thought, man, this is great. It's no big deal.
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  I just left Dayton, OH. I left the hotel there and I'm
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  just a strolling on down the road.
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  I mean, everything's great and I wasn't even thinking about that.
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  I was about to roll into Indiana and I got to take a drink of
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  that coffee and I got my Yeti. No big deal.
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  Same Yeti. This thing's been probably
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  1,000,000 miles actually up. I'm sitting there going down the
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  road and I hit that bump so hard they knocked the top off of it
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  and I covered myself in coffee I've.
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  Said words that people didn't know existed driving on the
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  roads in Illinois and Indiana. Michigan's gotten a lot better.
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  They've they've redone 94, about 168 miles in both directions.
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  I went up to, oh, I had to go to Detroit to cross a couple months
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  ago. That wasn't that.
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  And I cut up through Indiana, so and then the where else have I
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  been out there? I don't really go to Michigan
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  all that often. I'm trying to stay away from it.
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  This is kind of. Goes to Michigan.
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  Mike goes to Michigan every now and then.
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  Well. He does.
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  I like their products, yeah. Oh.
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  Yeah, there you. Go in Illinois.
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  It's way too expensive. Really.
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  Oh yeah, Michigan's kind and did the right thing.
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  And Illinois is like, give me all your money.
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  Give me all your tax revenue, yeah.
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  So Illinois is expensive for everything like I want.
• 19:05
  I try to Here's another Here's another thing.
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  Starting July 1st, they're going to tax everybody $0.50 on every
• 19:11
  sports bet that they make them dirty.
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  Bastards. Really.
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  That doesn't. That doesn't seem fair.
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  No, it's been legal since 2018. Seven years later, they decide
• 19:24
  that it can't be free anymore. Every bet's going to have a
• 19:27
  $0.50 tax on it. Or maybe it's up to $0.50
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  depending on your wager, but still.
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  Yeah, see, I can't. I just don't bet on sports,
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  though. I just can't.
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  I. Can't either.
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  MM does. I don't.
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  I don't either. I'm the same way.
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  I just I, I, I, I call Mike. Calculated risk because I'm
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  pretty educated at what the outcome is going to be barring
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  an unforeseen circumstance. Yeah, Mike does a good job at
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  it. Like his entire studio behind
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  you. He he built off of revenue from
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  gambling. Yes.
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  OK. Yeah, that's right, all free.
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  I I might should need some tip. Maybe I should do it.
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  No, not really. I'm not I'm not going to start
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  betting on Yeah, I mean maybe betting on the horses kind of
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  deal, but not not the sports because that's just not my.
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  I used to do it a long time ago when we used to, when you could
• 20:16
  do like the football, the, the, the pools, the football pools
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  where you pick the games, you know, for the week.
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  Yeah, I would get 10 or 11 out of that and I'd win those pools
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  all the time because I was just straight up wins and losses,
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  Right. It's just, and I just knew that
• 20:29
  I was so into football back then because it wasn't flag football
• 20:33
  that you actually understood the whole concept of, of the teams
• 20:37
  and the quarterbacks and all kind of shit and home field
• 20:39
  advantage matter and the referees didn't fuck shit up,
• 20:42
  you know, so it. But it's just not the same
• 20:44
  anymore. Oh.
• 20:46
  I imagine that, yeah, I don't, I don't do football.
• 20:49
  I don't do baseball. I don't like professional sports
• 20:53
  aren't professionals anymore. They're just celebrities.
• 20:57
  And so I stopped really dealing with any of that kind of stuff,
• 21:03
  like I guess really since forever.
• 21:05
  And it's so bad that so my kid went to OU University and he was
• 21:13
  one of the the guys who hung out the back of the wagon, which is
• 21:17
  called the schooner. My wife will kill me if I don't
• 21:19
  call that out, right? And would sit there and hang out
• 21:23
  and, you know, holding the flag and all that stuff.
• 21:25
  And so I was actually helping because they didn't have a lot
• 21:29
  of parents who had experience with horses kind of deal.
• 21:35
  So I would help whenever they brought the ponies up in and I'd
• 21:39
  help the kids deal with them up there because they only had a
• 21:42
  couple people for down there. And, you know, it's just no big
• 21:44
  deal. So I got to go to the tunnel and
• 21:46
  go down the field is, you know, interesting.
• 21:49
  And I met some like royalty kind of guys.
• 21:55
  And one of I can't even remember is that Barry Switzer, I met him
• 22:00
  one day, had a full conversation with this kid, no idea who he
• 22:05
  was. Oh, right on.
• 22:07
  At all. And for those who don't know,
• 22:09
  Barry Switcher was Oklahoma. He was Oklahoma college
• 22:12
  quarterback and then he ended up on the coattails of Jimmy
• 22:14
  Johnson in Dallas. And that was the last time
• 22:16
  Dallas Cowboys won the Super Bowl.
• 22:17
  That was like 3 decades ago, you know, So that's probably the big
• 22:21
  yeah, remember. See, I forgot.
• 22:24
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a minute, right?
• 22:28
  Yeah, yeah, just. So I try to give everybody
• 22:34
  because I've had just a life, I've I tried to like let
• 22:41
  everybody have 1 little tidbit or two tidbits of things that
• 22:45
  are like just mind blowing things that changed the course
• 22:50
  of my life kind of deal. And I, I got a couple for y'all.
• 22:54
  I'll give you 1 now. That'll be alright.
• 22:56
  So Patrick bet David, I don't know if you with the PVD podcast
• 23:01
  kind of deal. Well, he had a YouTube channel
• 23:04
  on it was called Value Tainment. And it was kind of like business
• 23:10
  mixed with entertainment kind of deal breaking things down.
• 23:14
  And so I started watching this back when he was first going and
• 23:18
  he had this one video where he came out and he started talking.
• 23:21
  He was taking a a deck of cards and just laying them down there.
• 23:28
  He said there's 52 weeks in a year and there's 52 cards in a
• 23:31
  deck. OK, that's cool.
• 23:34
  Go through and every week, it may be a crappy week and two of
• 23:39
  clubs, but you got to know throughout the year, eventually
• 23:43
  you're going to get the base cards, you're going to get them
• 23:45
  aces. It's coming, right?
• 23:48
  And that was a really profound thing.
• 23:51
  But then I realized, wait a minute, I'm probably not going
• 23:57
  to live till I'm 52. I wouldn't expect him to make it
• 23:59
  till 40 so. That makes three of us.
• 24:03
  Yeah, I I wrote a song, dude. It was all about dying when I
• 24:06
  was 30. Well.
• 24:08
  True story, I started like breaking through and taking each
• 24:11
  one of those and like breaking down my life as it came through
• 24:16
  growing up. When my dad cut his fingers off
• 24:18
  and I had to be a tracker mechanic cause 8II.
• 24:22
  OK, so go, go. OK, hold on, hold on, hold on,
• 24:24
  'cause that's that's that's obviously going to be.
• 24:26
  Yeah, you can't gloss over that, dude.
• 24:28
  So what happened to your dad? How'd that happen?
• 24:30
  Yeah. So I had pneumonia and I was in
• 24:35
  the hospital like I was not doing good.
• 24:38
  And so my dad was staying up there at night and then he would
• 24:43
  go back to the shop to work on, on tractors and it was cold and
• 24:51
  I think it was, it was below 0. And they had a wood burning
• 24:55
  stove in the shop that heated the whole thing.
• 24:58
  And he was taking some old fence posts and cutting them up with a
• 25:01
  chop saw so he could throw them in there.
• 25:03
  And he'd sit there and there was a nail in it and it ended up
• 25:07
  sucking his fingers to the chop saw.
• 25:10
  And so he went like originally he was like this, but then they
• 25:15
  took this one to rebuild these. So he's like, yes.
• 25:18
  And I don't know if you've ever tried to finger a nut when
• 25:21
  you're right-handed and. You're right, yeah.
• 25:23
  But yeah, it's kind of hard when you ain't got that.
• 25:26
  It's almost impossible. Yeah.
• 25:28
  Well, I mean, he does, he figured it out to use the other
• 25:32
  ones, but it took years of being able to do therapy and stuff
• 25:36
  like that. So I got to be fine.
• 25:39
  So and then, so there was that and then we was I, I grew up
• 25:45
  poor, real poor, like poor is poor.
• 25:49
  Could be kind of you know, that's one reason I love hotels
• 25:52
  because whenever I was a kid, we never got to do that kind of
• 25:56
  stuff except once a year with my family reunion.
• 26:00
  So but I kind of like laid all that stuff out there.
• 26:03
  It figured up all these years like when my wife had cancer,
• 26:08
  this 08, just everything. And then I realized all those
• 26:16
  years of my life sucked really badly, which meant that I've got
• 26:22
  all these space cards and aces coming and so I'm on the upward
• 26:27
  trend kind of deal. And that's the most mind blowing
• 26:30
  thing realization that I got aces and kings coming.
• 26:36
  I don't know that mind blowing, but that's.
• 26:40
  But it was. I like that, man.
• 26:42
  I like visual representations like that.
• 26:44
  And I guess I never thought about it, but that we had the
• 26:46
  same kind of epiphany, just different visuals, you know?
• 26:50
  Yeah. Really.
• 26:53
  So what was? Her, Well, I was a horrible drug
• 26:56
  addict for quite a few years. And, you know, you can imagine
• 27:02
  without going through all the horrid details, I was been, you
• 27:06
  know, I've been there, done that.
• 27:07
  So to be sitting here talking to you and talking about life in a
• 27:11
  positive mindset, it's never lost on me.
• 27:15
  It's never lost on Chris, you know, so that we like to hear
• 27:18
  those stories. It's.
• 27:19
  Yeah, I just, it's a powerful visual representation that could
• 27:25
  be valuable to somebody who's not thinking about it that way,
• 27:28
  but. Yeah, any, yeah, yeah.
• 27:31
  Anybody that, that that has gone through struggles with addiction
• 27:35
  and stuff has that moment, man. It's just, it's how you phrase
• 27:37
  it. Mine was, you know, Nick and I
• 27:39
  never fought. We had a big bullet fight and I
• 27:41
  woke up the next day. My fox.
• 27:42
  Something's got to change, you know, and I've been sober now 20
• 27:45
  years in February, just this past February, past 20 years,
• 27:49
  which you don't realize that when you're in the throes of it
• 27:52
  that I would have my life would have completely changed.
• 27:56
  It was September when her last straw was.
• 27:58
  And then Fast forward to the the next February of that year of
• 28:02
  the following year. Had I not woken up and realized
• 28:07
  it the next morning, she would have been out.
• 28:09
  She was. I had one foot out the door.
• 28:10
  She was gone in May because that's when she graduated and
• 28:12
  she would have, she had it after we kind of we separated for
• 28:16
  three months. He moved out and blah, blah,
• 28:17
  blah, and all that kind of jazz. And but then all of a sudden
• 28:19
  Chris could be talked to because I was sober Chris.
• 28:21
  And sober Chris is, you know, he listens, he reasons with he's
• 28:24
  not just, hey, you know, and I wasn't a Dick.
• 28:26
  I wasn't violent, I wasn't verbally assaultive or anything
• 28:30
  like that. I was just, I wasn't there
• 28:32
  emotionally. You know, I told the story that
• 28:34
  one Chris was I had, I got her diamond earrings and I walked
• 28:36
  into the into the great room where she's on the couch and I
• 28:38
  threw her the diamond earrings a wrap and said, Merry Christmas,
• 28:41
  turn around and walked away. You know, like fuck you, here
• 28:44
  you go, because I have to do this, you know, but that's the
• 28:48
  kind of drunk I was. I wasn't, I paid the bills, I
• 28:51
  took care of the kids. I, you know, I did all my stuff
• 28:53
  that that you had to do as a as a husband and a father.
• 28:56
  I just wasn't there from an emotional, mental standpoint for
• 29:01
  her at all in that last the last year of my drinking, because it
• 29:04
  got it got to the point to where that was, you know, it just got
• 29:07
  worse and worse and worse. It escalated, you know, so you
• 29:10
  have to have those moments because otherwise you wouldn't
• 29:12
  be sitting here. So there's a kind of an old term
• 29:17
  when you're cowboy and if you get a horse and the horse goes
• 29:21
  to buck and you just ride the rank at them, right, And you
• 29:24
  just on them and they just keep going until they don't want to
• 29:28
  buck no more. Well, I was on the way down and
• 29:33
  my buddy Oz, he could tell that I was, I was going down a real
• 29:39
  dark path and I hadn't quite got there.
• 29:42
  I was drunk. I was very much a drunk.
• 29:45
  I was a happy drunk, kind of belligerent drunk, but more of a
• 29:49
  self deprecating drunk. I was.
• 29:53
  I was. I was starting to get to the
• 29:57
  point where I was putting myself in situations not that I would
• 30:01
  harm myself, that I could be harmed.
• 30:04
  So like, I went to Juarez on vacation.
• 30:09
  That was a horrible idea. Wait, I was.
• 30:11
  Going to say wait, war is like war is Mexico.
• 30:14
  Oh yeah, the Kentucky bar is the greatest thing ever.
• 30:17
  It's the oldest bar in North Korea.
• 30:20
  They still have. Yeah, the through where the old
• 30:23
  Cowboys used to pay in and stuff.
• 30:25
  It was a great I had AI had a great time with a a young little
• 30:32
  senorita. It was great.
• 30:35
  I walked out at like midnight or so I think I was super drunk.
• 30:41
  I they have these little like hot dog stands kind of deal.
• 30:45
  And I thought, man, I'm going to give me a hot dog.
• 30:49
  That's great. So I gave me a hot dog and as
• 30:52
  I'm going to eat it, I don't realize it, but these two cartel
• 30:56
  dealers find this other dude that they've been looking for
• 30:59
  and it's the other cartel. They basically grab this dude,
• 31:02
  they string him out and he's sitting there and the other dude
• 31:04
  walks up. Ow, blows his head off.
• 31:07
  And I'm pretty sure I had brain on that hot dog.
• 31:09
  I just walked off and ate it. Wow.
• 31:13
  Now I'm just out of here and I took off and I didn't run, I
• 31:17
  just walked. This little occurrence.
• 31:20
  I'm on the wrong side of the border and I only just went
• 31:25
  around the corner and I could tell they were kind of following
• 31:28
  me, but I was, I ducked into a a business for a while kind of
• 31:34
  deal and figure if it's the last time as well, right.
• 31:39
  And yeah, next morning I went back across the border and I was
• 31:42
  gone. I'm sure it's crazy where I
• 31:45
  went. That's insane, man.
• 31:48
  So, so when you did, you realize in the moment what's going on?
• 31:51
  Or was it something you look back and reflected like, holy
• 31:53
  shit, this really happened? Oh, dude, I was very, very aware
• 31:58
  of like what happened. Like I sobered up real quick.
• 32:01
  Yeah, yeah. Funny how that?
• 32:03
  Happens he's getting blown off and they following the white boy
• 32:06
  who probably I didn't even come up with a plan.
• 32:10
  If they caught up to me, I was going to tell him that I have
• 32:13
  terminal cancer and that I came down here to die kind of deal.
• 32:19
  Oh, OK. Take me and like chop me up and
• 32:22
  sell them all organs kind of deal because and if I'm then
• 32:25
  they can't ransom because I'm dying.
• 32:27
  Right. That was what up to tell them I
• 32:29
  had already planned that out. OK, everything I was sitting
• 32:32
  there and thinking, OK, do I sit there and shoot a message of see
• 32:35
  you later, I'm out. I didn't know.
• 32:38
  Whatever. And it.
• 32:39
  Probably would have been like we have a doctor.
• 32:42
  We have a doctor for you. Come here.
• 32:44
  Let me help you. Not going to be that kind of
• 32:46
  doctor. So but yeah, I went back crossed
• 32:50
  and I went home after that. And my buddy Oz, he sat there
• 32:55
  and he realized what I was doing.
• 32:57
  And so how this happened, I don't really know.
• 33:03
  But it was like 6:00 in the evening and I was already like 4
• 33:07
  sheets of wind. And he says, hey, let's go to
• 33:10
  California. And I was like, sure, when you
• 33:15
  want to go, let's leave. Let's leave in like 8 hours.
• 33:21
  What? Yeah.
• 33:25
  Let's go, man. Let's.
• 33:26
  Let's go ahead and pack up, get some sleep.
• 33:28
  We'll hit ropes. Sure.
• 33:30
  We packed up next. We're about 4:00 in the morning.
• 33:34
  He showed up and we took off and we rode 1000 miles that day.
• 33:39
  Damn. I mean, it was.
• 33:40
  I was sweating everything out. I, too, was horrible.
• 33:45
  And he didn't really. And when we ended up going up
• 33:47
  through Utah and then back down into Vegas and I had a friend
• 33:52
  who hooked us up with the comp room and I didn't even drink
• 33:56
  that night, I'm like, I thought, we're going to party in Vegas.
• 34:00
  That's the only time I've ever actually stayed the night in
• 34:03
  Vegas. Didn't.
• 34:05
  Really didn't gamble at all. It was just like, yeah, I went
• 34:09
  to sleep. Next morning we got up we he
• 34:15
  wanted to go to Joshua Tree to partake and something just to
• 34:21
  say he did it at Joshua Tree. So we.
• 34:24
  Oh that would be awesome. We rode across the Hoover Dam
• 34:27
  and what's funny is I've actually been down that road
• 34:32
  several times and it is one of the most awesome places, I
• 34:36
  think. But like those I I love that
• 34:40
  road. So but it was it was pretty
• 34:43
  cool. So then we went out and ended up
• 34:47
  going up to Sacramento and then came back down through came back
• 34:52
  down through San Francisco and we stayed on a a his brother did
• 35:01
  like 5th surveying like they they went out and would dive off
• 35:08
  these reefs and count fish and the types of fish.
• 35:12
  Like. Met them for like ecological
• 35:15
  reasons. No, that's all.
• 35:18
  Yeah, we stayed on their their dive boat that night.
• 35:22
  Like we literally just rode our Harleys down onto the pier and
• 35:26
  stayed on their dive boat in Ventura, CA and then that was
• 35:30
  great. Next morning got up and gone and
• 35:35
  very. Cool.
• 35:36
  Texas, it was it was all right. We ended up, we did.
• 35:41
  We didn't do the whole trip. We, we strolled straight through
• 35:44
  Arizona. But you know, we stopped and I
• 35:47
  believe it's Gallup, NM. And then came the rest way over
• 35:50
  to Amarillo and that was it. But Amarillo by morning.
• 35:54
  Ironic enough, I actually had to live in San Antonio, so the next
• 36:00
  trip a lot. Had to do it.
• 36:02
  Had to do it, Amarillo. Everybody does.
• 36:05
  Anytime you hear, you know. Right.
• 36:07
  What was the other one? What is the other time?
• 36:09
  Oh, no, I mean, Glen Campbell had the one by the time I get to
• 36:12
  Phoenix, Yeah, by the time I get to Phoenix, she'll be leaving.
• 36:17
  She'll have left a note on my door.
• 36:19
  That's a good song. Dude, it is what?
• 36:21
  Talk about a raising alcoholic man Glen Campbell for decades.
• 36:25
  That dude just fucking made the breweries.
• 36:27
  The breweries and the. Didn't get much better of an
• 36:31
  alcoholic thing. No, that dude was a legend when
• 36:34
  it came to the alcohol world. Might just, you know, him and
• 36:37
  Ozzy Osbourne. Imagine them two together.
• 36:39
  And Alice Cooper. Oh my God.
• 36:40
  Ironically, Mark Grace as well. How many DUI?
• 36:43
  Oh, that's right, Mark Grace the cubbies.
• 36:47
  He was a raging alcoholic dude. I forgot about him.
• 36:49
  I didn't know that my mother. He retired and went to Arizona.
• 36:53
  He became a color commentator and he just kept getting DUI
• 36:58
  after DUI. I think he had three before I
• 37:00
  left in 2009. No kidding.
• 37:04
  So my mom's in love with Mark Grace.
• 37:07
  Always been, always will be. My parents got divorced when I
• 37:12
  was 16. But she would always say if like
• 37:15
  she left my dad, she would totally like go from our grace
• 37:18
  like that. What grace was the hall pass?
• 37:21
  You know what I don't actually understand?
• 37:25
  The whole hall pass deal, like, you know, I, I, I, you kind of
• 37:31
  watch some of my videos. We go to a lot of resorts that
• 37:34
  are frequented by swingers. So about it, right?
• 37:38
  I've never understood the holopads.
• 37:40
  If you're going to let it happen, just let it happen.
• 37:41
  Why does it have to be one person?
• 37:43
  Why not just be anybody? I think it depends on, on on.
• 37:49
  I don't know. I would say depends on
• 37:50
  comfortability of, of the couple and how secure they are in their
• 37:52
  relationship, because most women, regardless of how long,
• 37:55
  like Nikki's still insecure for on some levels, right?
• 37:59
  Well, she has no reason to be because she's beautiful.
• 38:01
  She's she doesn't look at her age and neither one of us look
• 38:04
  our age when people find out how old they're like, you're lying.
• 38:08
  But I think it comes down to that.
• 38:09
  It's just it's, it's, it's OK. What if that person's better,
• 38:15
  right? You know what I mean?
• 38:16
  What if that person is is does something like does something
• 38:21
  that you couldn't do, whatever that may be, right, because
• 38:24
  everybody's different in in size shape, with girt, all that kind
• 38:27
  of jazz and and their approach to things.
• 38:29
  And I just I just think maybe it's that kind of situation that
• 38:32
  people don't don't on a whole open up their marriage and say
• 38:37
  play time, you know, go have at it.
• 38:39
  Where's if you have a hall pass, you kind of know, like you go to
• 38:42
  Vegas, What happens to Vegas stays in Vegas, right?
• 38:44
  Like she'll kill me. We were in Vegas years and years
• 38:47
  ago and, and we were at the Coyote ugly bar and I convinced
• 38:50
  her to take off the, the undergarments and dance on the
• 38:52
  on the on the bar, you know, just in her skirt, right?
• 38:56
  Was you know, that's what happens with tequila, right?
• 38:59
  But you see, my wife, you'd think there's no way in hell
• 39:02
  like this is just this, this petite, nice little, you know,
• 39:05
  we call her Mary Poppins. You know, nobody would thought
• 39:08
  she's dancing on a bar in Vegas without any panties on, right.
• 39:12
  So I think it's that kind of concept.
• 39:14
  I could be wrong because I don't I'm not in that world, but my we
• 39:17
  have our our, you know, fairy tale, you know, like if Michelle
• 39:22
  Pfeiffer came knocking on my door, I'm I'm all over Michelle
• 39:25
  Pfeiffer. Even today she still looks
• 39:26
  freaking amazing. Johnny Depp would have to come
• 39:30
  to the door dressed as Captain Jack and be full on character.
• 39:32
  And it's like, OK, have fun, honey.
• 39:34
  You know, here's that booty for you, Captain Jack.
• 39:39
  So, so, so it's that kind of stuff I think is more of a
• 39:44
  playful, you know, I don't know how, I don't know how to
• 39:48
  explain. It I think you said it best.
• 39:50
  I think it, I think it depends on each unique situation because
• 39:55
  one thing I make very clear to anybody I'm in a relationship
• 39:58
  with upfront is you can be nervous or not nervous all you
• 40:02
  want, but that's all wasted energy because I will never
• 40:05
  cheat on you. I have my reasons for that.
• 40:09
  But I can 100%, a million percent guarantee you in this
• 40:12
  lifetime that will never happen. So we can move on from there and
• 40:17
  say if you think that person's attractive, that's human nature,
• 40:20
  right? Yeah.
• 40:22
  The whole jealousy thing about this person's attractive or this
• 40:27
  person's not attractive, especially when it's a
• 40:30
  celebrity, the odds of you ever meeting them are astronomical
• 40:33
  anyway, right? So it definitely depends on the
• 40:37
  situation, but I think that as two grown adults, if you're in a
• 40:41
  relationship, you should know that the others not going to
• 40:44
  stray. Right.
• 40:45
  But I think with women, I think it's more prevalent with women
• 40:48
  than is with men because women get.
• 40:49
  Burned a lot, 1,000,000%. Right, So I think that's
• 40:53
  understandable, right. So I think that's where the
• 40:55
  hesitation may come with that is, is that that well, if I give
• 40:59
  him a hall pass like OK, Woody Harrelson, Robert Robert Redford
• 41:04
  and Demi was it Demi Moore movie The indecent proposal, right.
• 41:08
  They, they, they structured the couple right as a rock solid
• 41:12
  foundation couple and then this $1,000,000 back then life
• 41:16
  changing him, his life changing regardless of the time, right.
• 41:18
  With this one little caveat, right?
• 41:20
  Right, and that that that put the relationship over the edge
• 41:24
  and it you know, so I I think that's the thing, because Woody
• 41:29
  Harrelson couldn't get out of his head that he allowed his
• 41:32
  wife to go. You know, I had a cowboy named
• 41:35
  Robert Redford, you know, electric horseman, get that
• 41:38
  reference there for us that are older.
• 41:42
  But I think that's the thing right.
• 41:43
  So from from I wouldn't I it's weird sounds going to sound
• 41:47
  weird, but I am completely confident in my relationship by
• 41:49
  my wife that that if Robert Redford knocked on the door said
• 41:53
  here's $1,000,000 but I can have your wife for a night.
• 41:55
  I'm like, honey, Robert's here, you know?
• 41:59
  We'll pick this up tomorrow, right?
• 42:01
  You know, but I think that's the dynamic that some people there's
• 42:05
  they're the insecurities, the insecurities to me and the, and
• 42:09
  the jealousies is what destroys relationships more than
• 42:12
  anything. Well, here's where people leave
• 42:14
  my conversation. Every time.
• 42:16
  For at least 200,000 years we were anything but monogamist,
• 42:21
  right? This is a fairly new thing in
• 42:23
  recorded history, probably within the last 200 years as a
• 42:31
  known practice right? Where people do it all the time
• 42:34
  without practicing any kind of polygamy or multiple wives
• 42:37
  situation. Or.
• 42:39
  Whatever their ideology was. So my wife, actually, she's got
• 42:47
  a forever hall pass and that's because when I my first wife,
• 42:54
  who is now married to my then best friend who would come over
• 42:59
  and clean out the pipes while I was gone.
• 43:04
  This will be a short cleaning the pipes.
• 43:08
  Yeah, and so my wife had a river hall pass it.
• 43:13
  I don't care whatever. You just have to be 100% honest
• 43:17
  with me, tell me everything. It's fine.
• 43:22
  I don't care. Whatever.
• 43:25
  Now she has never used it but. OK.
• 43:30
  It's I I told her that when we first got together because I
• 43:36
  have known so many women and I think women cheat on men more
• 43:40
  than men cheat on women. I, yeah, I, I, I just, it's just
• 43:44
  not as commonly recognized, right?
• 43:47
  Because, of course, the guy. Is going to scream that you get
• 43:51
  cheats on. Cheated on isn't going to tell
• 43:53
  the world. Although I did have a guy I knew
• 43:56
  he he would tell everybody why he got a divorce and he'd just
• 43:59
  be like well it's because me and my wife had too much in common.
• 44:02
  We both like girls, so like. What?
• 44:07
  Yeah, and, and see, the other thing is with men and women,
• 44:09
  women can get laid like that. It does not matter.
• 44:13
  A woman can walk into a bar in 10 minutes, walk out with
• 44:16
  whoever she wants and go back to wherever they're going and get
• 44:20
  naked and have fun. Where a guy it's.
• 44:23
  Provided she's reasonably attractive.
• 44:25
  Well, yeah, I mean, depends on the time of the if you're in the
• 44:28
  bar reasonably. I know I got it, I got it.
• 44:33
  But I I just and I think with men there's because women always
• 44:36
  think when you like, OK, so I'm in the Rotary Club in Mesa,
• 44:38
  right? So that's we about about 80 of
• 44:40
  us, right? I have no problem approaching
• 44:42
  the male member say, hey, let's go to lunch, get to know each
• 44:44
  other better, right? Because Rotary Club, you come in
• 44:46
  10 minutes before it starts, you kind of can chit chat, but you
• 44:49
  don't really get to know somebody, right?
• 44:51
  Like Lloyd, if you were in Rotary Club, I'd be like, Lloyd,
• 44:52
  let's go to lunch. You know, let's go to lunch next
• 44:54
  week so I can get to know you more.
• 44:56
  And we, we talk for an hour and eat food and, you know, break
• 44:58
  bread, right. But approaching the women in the
• 45:01
  group, there's automatically that weirdness, right?
• 45:03
  How come I just? Being a Rotary Club.
• 45:05
  Because you're not in Arizona, man.
• 45:07
  You can join the Rotary Club in Illinois.
• 45:08
  Lloyd But you said? All right, Well, because I
• 45:10
  already know you. I don't know, Lloyd, man.
• 45:13
  I'm knowing Lloyd. I've known you for years.
• 45:15
  But you see what I'm saying? I know.
• 45:17
  But if so, if I approached, if I approached Susan, this woman in
• 45:20
  the group, that's super nice lady.
• 45:21
  If I approached her and said, hey, Susan, let's go to lunch
• 45:23
  right away, regardless of how much she knows me and knows my
• 45:26
  character, she's going to have that thing in the back of her
• 45:28
  head. Why does he want to take me to
• 45:29
  lunch? 100%?
• 45:31
  So that's the difference. Between men and women, and
• 45:35
  rightfully so. Yes, yes.
• 45:37
  Because ingrained into our DNA, yes, especially from the female
• 45:41
  perspective, is. Absolutely.
• 45:43
  There was thousands of years of raping and pillaging, right?
• 45:48
  Yep. Even if it's never happened to
• 45:50
  you, it's ingrained into our DNA.
• 45:52
  There's a lot of things about human nature that we don't
• 45:54
  understand as a modern society because our life has been easy
• 45:58
  for at least the last 50 years. We've had right central air
• 46:03
  conditioning, central heating, We've had food brought to our
• 46:06
  town. Nobody's had to starve to death
• 46:08
  for any reason for a long time, provided you know, you're not in
• 46:14
  some unique situation. I know there's unique
• 46:16
  situations, but in America that percentage is very low.
• 46:20
  So all the sudden we have all these weird problems that we
• 46:24
  invent because we're not out looking for food.
• 46:28
  And all I'm saying is those women, even if they don't know
• 46:34
  it, that's why they feel that way.
• 46:35
  He's not wrong. Yeah, I.
• 46:38
  Understand that, but I will say I think it's kind of funny that
• 46:41
  the whole toxic masculinity has gone off the table.
• 46:46
  Nobody's talking about how there's many equal rights for
• 46:48
  women. Wherever people are talking
• 46:50
  about, there might be another warrant, a draft.
• 46:53
  No, and it goes, I'm not saying it doesn't go the any other
• 46:57
  direction. It's just like, that's the
• 46:59
  reason I think the whole, you know, conservative conservatives
• 47:02
  and liberals is bullshit because there's good on one side and
• 47:07
  good on the other in everything. You know, you can't choose an
• 47:10
  ideology in anything or to choose A-Team, man or woman.
• 47:14
  It's like the reason Chris's marriage has worked for 30 years
• 47:18
  is obviously because they make a good team.
• 47:20
  Yeah. Without that, it just wouldn't
• 47:23
  succeed. You know, there's a reason that
• 47:25
  that works. There's a reason he doesn't
• 47:27
  stray and she doesn't stray because together they've
• 47:31
  accomplished a better life year over year.
• 47:34
  Right. I mean, you've got to be pretty
• 47:37
  good together if you're going to go paddle boarding, right?
• 47:43
  I'm not doing that. So my wife and I, we went
• 47:46
  kayaking. Got.
• 47:48
  A2 feet or kayak and I sit there and I told her, I said are you
• 47:51
  going to paddle? And she said, well, yeah, is
• 47:56
  that are you going to paddle correctly?
• 47:58
  She said, yeah, I promise. See.
• 48:02
  Yeah, I can't. I can't do that.
• 48:04
  We have. I'm going to move my camera so
• 48:05
  you can see them. We have two paddleboards right
• 48:09
  there. Badass.
• 48:12
  So we each, we each have whoops, hello, we each have one.
• 48:14
  And then we just, this is like our third time out.
• 48:17
  It's a, it's a we're runners by by just since 2014, we've been
• 48:21
  nothing but running and running probably 60 half marathons.
• 48:24
  But Mike and I have this fun little thing in common called
• 48:27
  the degenerating invertebrate in her neck.
• 48:29
  We were training for the Marine Corps Marathon.
• 48:31
  That's in October last year or the year before.
• 48:36
  I was in a nice last year. I was in AI found out I had a
• 48:38
  stress fraction, my right second metatarsal, my right foot.
• 48:41
  So I was in a boot for eight months.
• 48:42
  So that derailed all the running.
• 48:45
  I still worked out, still did cardio, still did upper body
• 48:47
  core, everything. But then once I started running
• 48:50
  again, being in the boot so long, it shifted my, my spine a
• 48:55
  little bit. And then all of a sudden I
• 48:57
  started having pain again. And you know, Long story short,
• 49:00
  not running at all really right now, still working out and
• 49:03
  stuff. But then she's like, oh, we
• 49:04
  should paddle board. I'm like, what the fuck is
• 49:06
  paddle boarding, man? It's actually cool because it's
• 49:10
  I'm all about what can we do that isn't just sitting in a
• 49:15
  movie twiddling our thumbs because you go to a movie, what
• 49:17
  do you do? You watch the movie, you're not
• 49:20
  talking to the person next to you, except before the movie and
• 49:23
  after. Paddle boarding is cool in the
• 49:26
  sense that that we both have enough core strength.
• 49:29
  We can stand up and paddle. Like I can hold a 9 1/2 minute
• 49:31
  plank, she can hold about a 4 minute plank, which which is,
• 49:34
  you know, amazing for for anyone and you anything over 3 minutes,
• 49:37
  like you're rock solid. But like Kenny Lake this
• 49:41
  morning, there was maybe 30 people out there, so it was just
• 49:44
  her and I cruising along. And, you know, you're only after
• 49:49
  about an hour because, again, we're standing up and you're
• 49:51
  rowing, you know, and so you're working the shoulders, you're
• 49:54
  working the back, the lats, the core, you engage the core the
• 49:57
  whole time. So it essentially the work.
• 49:58
  I did like 850 calories somewhere on that just in the
• 50:01
  hour and 6 minutes paddle boarding.
• 50:04
  That's just insane. Yeah.
• 50:05
  So I look at things. What's that?
• 50:08
  How long is America? 26.2 miles, half marathon is
• 50:12
  13.10 I. Did 1/4 I thought.
• 50:16
  So my half marathon time, the last one I ran before I knew I
• 50:21
  was broke and I did an hour and 48 minutes and my goal was to
• 50:26
  get to 130. So I had the baby step it down.
• 50:29
  So my next one I ran was the Vegas half and that was that
• 50:32
  Target was 145. When I hit mile 5I planted my
• 50:35
  foot and I'm like, so every step just Ouch, Ouch, Ouch.
• 50:39
  Still finished in a two hours because runners are stupid.
• 50:43
  But that was the last one I ran because it just then it just, it
• 50:47
  just got worse and worse and worse.
• 50:49
  So before that we probably we baby stepped away into running
• 50:53
  in 2015. Once I had my next surgery,
• 50:56
  original next surgery was cleared everything We started
• 50:58
  doing 5 KS and then the five KS led to to 10 KS 10 KS led to a
• 51:02
  couple 15 KS and that led, OK, let's do a half marathon.
• 51:06
  And then we did that and we only, we only ran when we
• 51:11
  trained for that one up to 10 miles.
• 51:12
  She forgot to tell me about the the wall of the 11th mile.
• 51:16
  Kid you not this race, they had a fucking wall pull up wall at
• 51:22
  mile 11. Welcome to the wall.
• 51:24
  And by the time you got to the wall, you were just I'm never
• 51:27
  running again. I'm never doing this again.
• 51:28
  There's no way in hell you're going to get me running another
• 51:30
  half marathon. And then I thought, well, if we
• 51:33
  just over train, if we go past the 13 miles in training, then
• 51:38
  it'll be that much better of a run because in your head you're
• 51:41
  going further than you're actually running, right?
• 51:44
  So then it just became my, my addiction because Alcoholics do
• 51:48
  what, when they stop drinking, find another addiction.
• 51:51
  So it just became my thing. And then, you know, that was,
• 51:55
  this is so basically nine years of running, 5 KS, 10 KS, 15 KS,
• 52:00
  half marathon. She did one marathon.
• 52:03
  This was going to be her second one in October.
• 52:06
  Marine Corps Marathon is something to do every year, and
• 52:09
  this year it's only the full marathon because it's the
• 52:12
  anniversary. So I'm kind of bummed that I
• 52:14
  just physically can't do it. It sucks so.
• 52:18
  I can walk one. Yeah, I could probably walk one
• 52:21
  too. We, we wanted, I wanted to do 1
• 52:23
  when COVID hit because I thought I was in really good shape then,
• 52:26
  but then everything got shut down in a couple years after
• 52:29
  COVID hit. I was even better shape.
• 52:31
  And then I went through two cycles of 75 hard.
• 52:34
  And I'm like, this is going to be nothing for me to do a half
• 52:36
  or to do a full. But we couldn't find a full that
• 52:39
  I could train for in Arizona. It's hard to train in the
• 52:42
  summer, right? It's so freaking hot.
• 52:45
  So it just did nothing lined up. And then I realized I was
• 52:48
  running out of broken stress fracture for two years.
• 52:51
  And it's just like, OK, it's just this is just the scientists
• 52:54
  to kind of just chill out, stop real things back a little bit.
• 52:57
  And, you know, I mean, I was 52 years old, and I ran
• 53:00
  back-to-back miles at 5 minutes, 55 seconds, which is unheard of
• 53:03
  for the most part, you know? But enough about me.
• 53:09
  Why? Like it's interesting.
• 53:12
  I'm sitting here and look forward to you, which I will
• 53:15
  never do because I don't run. Like I I can run from the end of
• 53:22
  B terminal in Denver, catch a train and make it to the A
• 53:27
  terminal in 10 minutes and 32 seconds, which is almost too
• 53:30
  long, but yeah, OK. Like I can run from the end of
• 53:34
  Chicago to the other end of Chicago.
• 53:37
  I can run from Houston. I've done Newark.
• 53:40
  I can. I run in airports.
• 53:42
  I don't. Run for like OK I can.
• 53:45
  I can walk. All right there with you, man.
• 53:49
  There's no point in it like, although I was kind of buttered
• 53:53
  the other day. Well, in his case it was a
• 53:55
  meditative thing. Yeah, yeah, that was part of it
• 53:58
  because I, I, I that's how I would get into my head and, and
• 54:01
  purge the demons and shit and whatever, whatever kind of
• 54:04
  bullshit I was, I was, you know, dealing with.
• 54:07
  It's, it's how I would it's how I would kind of deal with it
• 54:10
  and, and just work through it. It wasn't necessarily, Oh, this
• 54:13
  is, you know, this is it. It was therapeutic.
• 54:17
  Like Mike said, it's just how I dealt with shit and how it, it,
• 54:19
  it, it made me if I was having like my job's really, really
• 54:25
  stressful selling houses, so much so I had AI sold the house
• 54:28
  to a hostage negotiator in Maricopa County.
• 54:31
  And and he told me when all is said and done, like he wouldn't
• 54:32
  want my job for anything. Like he talks right, and he
• 54:36
  talks people off buildings. And so when, when that's the
• 54:42
  thing, when I have, I'm one of those Realtors that one of those
• 54:45
  people in general that if I have bad news to share with a client,
• 54:47
  whether it's by or cello, I don't sleep on it.
• 54:49
  I tell them. So part of how I would frame,
• 54:52
  how I would approach whatever bad news I had to share was I'd
• 54:55
  go run, I'd get up in the morning, I'd go run 3 miles
• 54:58
  every day just to kind of start the day off, You know, drop
• 55:01
  little man off at school, come home, take off 3 miles, come
• 55:05
  back half an hour later, day's good, eat some food.
• 55:07
  Now I'm ready to rock'n'roll, right?
• 55:09
  And it would just clear the mind and get everything going, get
• 55:11
  the blood pump and get the the creative Judy.
• 55:13
  Because I also would think I run with music.
• 55:15
  But I think about, oh, I could do this marketing idea.
• 55:17
  I could do this kind of campaign.
• 55:18
  I could do these kind of videos, you know, thoughts pop in my
• 55:22
  head and then you. Run for the same reason I play.
• 55:24
  Yeah, yeah, basically. Then Lloyd, Lloyd visits.
• 55:29
  Lloyd visits adult resorts and videotapes their their lack of
• 55:32
  comforters, you know, for his therapy.
• 55:36
  The comforter's got to be thick for me.
• 55:39
  I know, I know, dude, I too like Nikki watched that with me and
• 55:42
  she's like, oh, oh, there's I would never go to a hotel with
• 55:45
  if they didn't have a comforter and I'm the same way.
• 55:47
  It's like you got to have you got to have the comforter, man,
• 55:50
  yes, Like that's the cocoon you wrap in, right?
• 55:53
  Agree. You know, it's got, I think it's
• 55:55
  the weight though. I think the weight true.
• 55:58
  I agree with that. And I'm like, I like having the,
• 56:02
  I will totally drop that air conditioner down to like 60.
• 56:07
  So when I wake up, it's like, yeah -900 in there.
• 56:11
  But I'm not posting the comforter.
• 56:13
  Yeah, it's. For I do the same.
• 56:15
  Get my money's worth and I'm comfortable.
• 56:18
  Yep, I would say that my out is windshield time just.
• 56:24
  Driving. Yeah, I I can solve world's
• 56:26
  problems. I like I my favorite thing to do
• 56:32
  is I come up with business plans.
• 56:34
  And. I will get an idea because you
• 56:38
  know, everything in life has like 5 stages.
• 56:41
  It's a dreamer, a planner, a doer, and an executor kind of
• 56:48
  deal. And there's an evaluation that
• 56:51
  gets fed in between all of that. Sure.
• 56:54
  I have a thought and then I determine whether that thought
• 56:58
  is stupid. And then I mean, and then I try
• 57:04
  to like blow it up and see if it's worth a day.
• 57:07
  And usually I spend way, way, way too many miles and I blow it
• 57:14
  up and try to find a way out of it and what can go wrong and
• 57:18
  everything. Because, you know, I, I've had
• 57:21
  some really great ideas that have gone really bad.
• 57:25
  Like I, I was doing consulting for doing construction
• 57:29
  consulting, like you deal in real estate.
• 57:32
  So if you've got a guy who he wants to develop a, you know, a
• 57:38
  $50 million assisted living for old folks.
• 57:43
  People. And he has no idea about
• 57:47
  construction. He's going to hire a contractor
• 57:50
  and architect, the architects and the contractors, they're
• 57:52
  going to get paid for the building no matter what.
• 57:55
  And then they're out in a year. But he wants to make sure it's
• 57:58
  right in longevity and all that stuff.
• 58:00
  So they would call me, I would come in and I would be
• 58:03
  essentially the owner Rep and basically help them weed through
• 58:07
  the regulatory hurdles. And I was doing great, loved it.
• 58:14
  I worked like maybe 10 days a month.
• 58:18
  I was making good money. I was, I was really just having
• 58:22
  a great time. And the good thing was, I
• 58:25
  actually was doing so good I got bored.
• 58:30
  Oh. I well it's a good thing I
• 58:33
  bought another in my truck because I was in before of an LO
• 58:38
  8 and so I got bored and I bought another truck.
• 58:42
  OK, Then I bought another truck and then I bought another truck.
• 58:47
  Wow. Then 2020 happened and there's
• 58:51
  no more construction there's no more investment going on and I'm
• 58:55
  like, oh crap, I ain't making no money.
• 58:57
  So I went back. I mean, I was already trucking,
• 59:00
  so I just did that pretty well full time.
• 59:03
  So we. Spammed it down, loaded up and
• 59:04
  trucking. We're going to do what they say
• 59:06
  can't be done. Like a long way to go get there,
• 59:09
  no? Not my favorite Chrome.
• 59:10
  My favorite chicken lights and Chrome.
• 59:15
  Is what is it? Chicken lights and Chrome.
• 59:17
  OK, right on, Right on. That's a pretty good one, but.
• 59:22
  Hell of a guitar player. I did that and then my
• 59:26
  backtracking, well, then I ended up leasing on with a different
• 59:30
  company and in April, actually we did it in March.
• 59:36
  And then the company I was on with, they, we got another
• 59:41
  driver. He went through all their
• 59:43
  process and everything, got approved, drove for two weeks
• 59:47
  and then he ended up tearing up one of the trucks, dumped 300
• 59:53
  gallons of diesel into a protected waterway.
• 59:56
  Oh. Oh that that wrecker and clean
• 1:00:01
  up was super expensive. Like.
• 1:00:06
  And then I found out that he wasn't even on the insurance and
• 1:00:10
  they weren't going to cover anything.
• 1:00:12
  Oh no. Damn.
• 1:00:12
  And. How many trucks did you have at
• 1:00:15
  the time? Do you have 5 trucks for an
• 1:00:17
  account? Right, Three.
• 1:00:18
  OK. And so he wasn't on the
• 1:00:21
  insurance and it would, it just went downhill.
• 1:00:25
  Ended up having to sue him one in arbitration, but then they
• 1:00:29
  appealed and it was in April of 2021.
• 1:00:34
  We're still waiting. Waiting still.
• 1:00:38
  Oh, yeah. So they spend more on lawyers
• 1:00:41
  than it would have cost in the beginning, but that's fine.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah, they almost got me, honestly, because like they that
• 1:00:54
  happened in May. I ended up going and starting
• 1:00:58
  doing this delivering trucks deal about a month.
• 1:01:01
  Well, that happened in April. I started doing the delivering
• 1:01:04
  trucks deal in May and then just kept going and kept going and
• 1:01:10
  all I was doing was basically paying the legal fees paying my
• 1:01:14
  lawyer. Lawyer was making like 5000 a
• 1:01:16
  month for the first six months. Don't know.
• 1:01:19
  Oh, it's. We're in.
• 1:01:20
  We're in the long run of work. Oh yes, for sure.
• 1:01:24
  And then my wife got cancer in October of that year.
• 1:01:28
  What kind of cancer did she have?
• 1:01:30
  She had breast cancer, so. She got.
• 1:01:33
  Me whacked off and rebuilt and now they're out to here and
• 1:01:36
  she's got a flat tummy and I love life and.
• 1:01:39
  And a clean bill of health. Oh.
• 1:01:41
  Yeah. Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:01:42
  Glad to hear. So she's actually drive back
• 1:01:44
  from Louisiana now. So but the yeah, that was a that
• 1:01:49
  was kind of a rough time. We actually ended up losing our
• 1:01:51
  house, which was kind of a blessing because we had a four
• 1:01:57
  bedroom house with we're renting it and it was just us too.
• 1:02:01
  So we really didn't need all that much.
• 1:02:05
  Like we had a flood in the house and we ended up moving into like
• 1:02:10
  a portion of it in the back three bedrooms kind of deal.
• 1:02:14
  And then we ended up there was other issues and we ended up
• 1:02:19
  having to move out and we moved into a hotel room and stayed
• 1:02:24
  there for like a month. And then we ended up getting
• 1:02:26
  this RV, this fifth wheel. It's it's not like a 25 foot
• 1:02:31
  camper. It's like a 43 footer with five
• 1:02:33
  slides and two bedrooms and loft.
• 1:02:35
  It's a bigot. So but Keller right for us and
• 1:02:40
  we're we don't have to worry about it.
• 1:02:42
  Web life and we're, it's like basically a lake house worst and
• 1:02:46
  we're never here. Oh nice, right on.
• 1:02:49
  That's cool. What's your wife do?
• 1:02:51
  So she is a super duper badass. She had.
• 1:02:56
  Business cards like like, like, what's his face hat in Pulp
• 1:02:59
  Fiction? The wallet's a bad motherfucker.
• 1:03:04
  What's yours? These are CCT paramedic to doing
• 1:03:10
  dispatch, emergency medical dispatch.
• 1:03:13
  And then she ended up being the supervisor for that company for
• 1:03:22
  a good chunk of the state of Texas.
• 1:03:25
  And then she got to be the and she was the dispatch supervisor
• 1:03:30
  and then she got to be the EMD instructor for the entire
• 1:03:34
  company. So she trains all the new
• 1:03:36
  dispatchers. Wow.
• 1:03:38
  Then she got hired on to the International Academy, so now
• 1:03:43
  she's actually going and training dispatchers all over
• 1:03:47
  North America, right? On we need.
• 1:03:49
  To talk to her too. Yeah, that would be fun.
• 1:03:52
  Oh, like she's, I don't know that she would be down for
• 1:03:59
  sharing stories. Well.
• 1:04:02
  Yeah, I know because she's still in the business.
• 1:04:05
  I get it. Well, no, no such as that.
• 1:04:08
  So like you get people who they do tell stories and that's their
• 1:04:11
  form. So like back when I was I was
• 1:04:14
  riding a fire truck kind of deal because that's how we met.
• 1:04:16
  We met and she was holding C spine with a car that was
• 1:04:18
  hanging off the side of a branch and I was cutting the door off
• 1:04:20
  of it. Wow, right.
• 1:04:24
  You, you get this box that you put that stuff in and you don't
• 1:04:31
  bring it out. So like for her, everybody
• 1:04:36
  lives, everybody's going to have this.
• 1:04:39
  She's continued that story. It plays out and it's wonderful.
• 1:04:43
  She'll actually lie to her people and tell her, Oh yeah,
• 1:04:45
  they're fine, good job. Kind of different question when
• 1:04:48
  something's bugging them. I mean, not all the time for
• 1:04:51
  some that you'll be honest with them, like if they take a call
• 1:04:54
  and then it's going to make the news, she's honest with them.
• 1:04:57
  No, that totally makes sense. Yeah, but then like, like it's
• 1:05:00
  actually been on Cops twice. Oh, no shit.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah, that's awesome. The cop that I mentioned
• 1:05:06
  earlier, the the hostage negotiator, he he transitioned
• 1:05:09
  into human remains. So he, he's retired now, but he
• 1:05:13
  still kind of pursues that because in his, in his mind,
• 1:05:16
  his, his, his focus on it is every, everybody, just
• 1:05:21
  everybody, not 2 these two words deserves a name.
• 1:05:25
  So he actually, they, it's still cold case files, all that kind
• 1:05:28
  of stuff, but they'll actually, they try to put a name to the
• 1:05:31
  remains that they come across, which is.
• 1:05:32
  That's awesome, which is huge for the family.
• 1:05:35
  Right, absolutely, absolutely. So I but I get that.
• 1:05:38
  I get that because his because he he he has a foundation he
• 1:05:41
  created. I forget what's called Tom my
• 1:05:42
  head, but it's all about the PTSD because you can't as
• 1:05:46
  firefighters and police officers, you're not allowed to
• 1:05:48
  talk. You're not allowed to share the
• 1:05:51
  chaos and what you're dealing with.
• 1:05:52
  Like one of my one of my past friends was a was a captain from
• 1:05:55
  fire department and they would leave a scene that was
• 1:05:58
  completely traumatic, right? You know, blown somebody, blew
• 1:06:01
  their brains out, blood over the walls, you know, just total,
• 1:06:04
  absolute chaos and just, you know, they would walk out of the
• 1:06:08
  house. What what are the situation?
• 1:06:10
  Get back to the station. You good?
• 1:06:11
  Yeah, I'm good. You good?
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, I'm good. That was it.
• 1:06:12
  That was the extent of the conversation.
• 1:06:15
  So that's why there's so much suicide, right?
• 1:06:16
  And those in the first responders world because they
• 1:06:18
  don't they've been conditioned not to talk about it.
• 1:06:20
  You're weak if you talk about it.
• 1:06:23
  You're weak if you say that affected me and and.
• 1:06:25
  So isn't that what Peter from Australia said too?
• 1:06:28
  That same. Kind of that's kind.
• 1:06:30
  Of where he had he lost his edge is kind of the way he described
• 1:06:34
  it, because he had a traumatic event in his life that brought
• 1:06:38
  all that to the forefront of his mind at the same time.
• 1:06:42
  So imagine that. Yeah, they don't process it.
• 1:06:44
  So I can see why your wife approaches it like that.
• 1:06:46
  Because you, you how else are you going to cope, right?
• 1:06:49
  I mean, if you if you fail to resuscitate a 2 year old child
• 1:06:52
  that you pulled out of a pool, how do you carry that shit with
• 1:06:56
  you the rest of the day, let alone the rest of your life if
• 1:06:59
  you don't have a way? It takes a special kind of
• 1:07:01
  human, and I'm glad they're out there because I'm not that
• 1:07:03
  special human in that department, you know?
• 1:07:06
  Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:07
  So, but that's, but that was the thing with him that he started
• 1:07:11
  his foundation about it was it was, it was a A1800 number for
• 1:07:16
  officers that just didn't know how to cope, but they could call
• 1:07:18
  it. And then they would work within
• 1:07:19
  24 hours to get them placement anonymously and kind of help
• 1:07:21
  them start working through their problems and their chaos.
• 1:07:23
  Because again, too many of the first responders take their own
• 1:07:26
  lives because they don't know how to deal and they don't have
• 1:07:29
  an outlet to purge it. I've been through therapy.
• 1:07:32
  And if you, if you don't, if you don't purge the chaos, man, it
• 1:07:35
  just, it just buries and builds inside you until one of you just
• 1:07:38
  going to go. I agree.
• 1:07:39
  Don't explode. So I'll.
• 1:07:42
  Give you a little food for thought on that.
• 1:07:44
  So you you, you said firefighters and cops, right?
• 1:07:48
  Yep. You know most EMS is ran by
• 1:07:50
  third party companies and paramedics and basics who run
• 1:07:54
  them aren't department. Right.
• 1:07:56
  Oh yeah? Well, that's why I said first
• 1:07:57
  responders too. They they never get very much
• 1:08:01
  acknowledgeable and there's no support for it, but you know,
• 1:08:05
  there is absolutely no support for it.
• 1:08:08
  Dispatchers, the dispatchers on the trying to tell someone how
• 1:08:14
  to help the other person and on the phone while they're
• 1:08:17
  screaming and talking about how their loved one is dying and
• 1:08:21
  they can't do a Dang thing about it except sit there and go
• 1:08:26
  through this script and OK, check this box, what about this?
• 1:08:29
  OK, and relay the information and be like, they're still 10
• 1:08:33
  1/2 minutes away. I'm going to need to go ahead
• 1:08:35
  and continue doing chest compressions, OK?
• 1:08:37
  No, you're going to have to pull them up.
• 1:08:41
  And I don't stop doing it and then click, yeah, that's it.
• 1:08:46
  And you never know the end of the story.
• 1:08:49
  And it's just like. I couldn't do that shit, dude.
• 1:08:52
  That would drive me. That's.
• 1:08:53
  Like that old shaving her got Dick Dick then.
• 1:08:57
  Yeah, you're shaving her got 2 bits.
• 1:08:58
  Yeah, I couldn't. You hear the most horrific part
• 1:09:02
  of the story and never the end. Right, Yeah, I mean, don't get
• 1:09:06
  me wrong. There's there's I've actually
• 1:09:09
  sit there and and brought her to lunch kind of deal and listen to
• 1:09:13
  some of those calls. And I come from that background.
• 1:09:17
  So I understand it, but there are calls that she'll get that
• 1:09:22
  are just so she has to be professional.
• 1:09:26
  Like think about it. I'm not going to say this is or
• 1:09:30
  is not in one of them. So but think about the the
• 1:09:34
  dispatcher who takes the call of the guy who slipped and fell in
• 1:09:38
  a soap bottle in the shower. Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  Right, you know they want to laugh.
• 1:09:44
  Yeah, yeah. Really.
• 1:09:47
  Yeah. Like, you know, there's
• 1:09:49
  something going on. I'll.
• 1:09:50
  Tell you the best one I ever heard Lloyd was and it's on
• 1:09:53
  YouTube. If if I knew the name of the
• 1:09:55
  clip, I would say it so people could go find it.
• 1:09:57
  But there's two cops that stole the weed from the teenagers that
• 1:10:02
  they busted. It was a husband and wife.
• 1:10:05
  They were both cops. They took it home, obviously,
• 1:10:08
  they smoked the weed. They called 911 because they
• 1:10:10
  thought they were dying and. The dispatcher knew.
• 1:10:14
  Exactly what was going on. And to your point, she never
• 1:10:18
  laughed, but she had such a sense of humor about it because
• 1:10:22
  she never said she never had any kind of sense of urgency.
• 1:10:26
  You know, it was just like, yeah, OK, we'll get somebody
• 1:10:29
  right out there. And, you know, the guy just kept
• 1:10:31
  saying, I'm pretty sure we're dying.
• 1:10:33
  Send them fast. And finally, she said, you may
• 1:10:35
  think you're dying, but you're not dying.
• 1:10:38
  You know, just relax. Just take a deep breath.
• 1:10:41
  Listen to yourself breathing. I I will say I have never done
• 1:10:46
  any drugs whatsoever. That's surprising because you're
• 1:10:51
  a truck driver. And I know, and I know it's a
• 1:10:53
  stereotype, but truck drivers on a whole, right, Because they're
• 1:10:58
  long hours and shit, they all kind of, I'm not going to say
• 1:11:01
  all. OK, let me ask him this then.
• 1:11:03
  Is that an old stereotype or is that still fairly?
• 1:11:06
  Proud. That was an old stereotype.
• 1:11:09
  Really like it is my bad. I'm sorry.
• 1:11:11
  No, no, no it. No, it was and back when we were
• 1:11:16
  young that was, you know, that was occurs in cocaine.
• 1:11:19
  Yeah, OK. Now, no, these trucks literally
• 1:11:22
  drive themselves like the the one that I I'm in right now, it
• 1:11:28
  does 70 miles an hour on the cruise control.
• 1:11:31
  It has lane disks, so you, you just have to hold your hands on
• 1:11:34
  the wheel. It will stay in a lane.
• 1:11:37
  If a car slows down in front of you, it slows down.
• 1:11:40
  If it knows there's a curve ahead, it slows down.
• 1:11:44
  If that senses that the speed limit changes, it slows down.
• 1:11:48
  If it senses there's an obstruction in the roadway, it
• 1:11:52
  slows down. That's crazy, I see more guys
• 1:11:56
  watching porn going down the road.
• 1:11:59
  Oh no shit, have a. Towel on their head.
• 1:12:01
  That's the new addiction. Wow.
• 1:12:03
  See, there was there was an accident in Phoenix not too long
• 1:12:05
  ago on on our our our street from our highway from the street
• 1:12:10
  from Tucson to Phoenix truck driver head on collision that
• 1:12:15
  chaos man. I don't know if four or five
• 1:12:16
  people died. Explosion shut the the highway
• 1:12:19
  down for hours and hours and hours.
• 1:12:21
  It came back. It was on TikTok now it makes
• 1:12:23
  sense because I didn't. Nobody says the screen.
• 1:12:27
  I just thought he was on his phone on TikTok and but I didn't
• 1:12:30
  know why would I know the trucks were automatic driving.
• 1:12:33
  Well, OK, they're not technically, they just have.
• 1:12:36
  Something. I get what you're saying.
• 1:12:38
  Yeah, I get what you're saying. But they're they're pretty.
• 1:12:42
  It could have been something like.
• 1:12:43
  It could have been something like that.
• 1:12:44
  Like you said though, like right where where it's so automated,
• 1:12:48
  he's just zoned out and watching Reels on TikTok and then you
• 1:12:52
  know. Yeah, and just pass the time
• 1:12:55
  away because you literally have to sit there and you've got a
• 1:12:58
  log book that's electronic. Now.
• 1:13:00
  Now, granted, I don't have to deal with that stuff because I'm
• 1:13:04
  actually like, you can't put an ELD in a brand new truck being
• 1:13:08
  delivered. So you just, it's basically like
• 1:13:12
  paper logs, like old school. That's why I enjoy doing it.
• 1:13:15
  But yeah, they've got it to where literally it every metric
• 1:13:20
  is mapped out for you. And you have to stay driving for
• 1:13:26
  however 8 hours. And then you stop for 30 minutes
• 1:13:29
  and you got another 3 1/2 hours. But if your time runs out when
• 1:13:32
  you're sitting on the side of the road, you're just stuck on
• 1:13:34
  the side of the road for 10 hours.
• 1:13:36
  The cop tells you to move it 9 hours and 53 minutes.
• 1:13:39
  Then you're just screwed kind of stuff.
• 1:13:42
  And you got to bust your time. And everybody hates drivers.
• 1:13:45
  And I would not do that. Ever.
• 1:13:48
  You cannot. They try to hire me every time,
• 1:13:51
  everywhere I go there. You want a job?
• 1:13:53
  Nope. Do you ever ask him under these
• 1:13:57
  circumstances, or they just can't violate those rules?
• 1:14:00
  No, no, that's federal law. You can't.
• 1:14:02
  That's what I thought. Those are dot standards, right?
• 1:14:05
  Yeah, so the the mega carriers killed the industry.
• 1:14:09
  And what? OK, so what's the mega carrier?
• 1:14:11
  Because I don't understand what that is.
• 1:14:12
  Swift. Swift, actually Swift Night
• 1:14:15
  Swift. That's Med carrier.
• 1:14:18
  They, they killed the industry initially.
• 1:14:21
  They they were one of them. And they started trying to
• 1:14:24
  essentially hire in any warm body that they could find and
• 1:14:30
  they would run it through their training school and then they
• 1:14:35
  got him in CDL and then sent him out on the road.
• 1:14:37
  But they were self insured. So if they wrecked, it didn't
• 1:14:40
  matter. OK, so because they were self
• 1:14:43
  insured then it didn't matter to them.
• 1:14:48
  But then all the other trucking companies in the area who were
• 1:14:52
  not self insured went. Their rates went up because
• 1:14:56
  there's so many wrecks from all these swift drivers.
• 1:14:59
  Oh. Yeah, OK.
• 1:15:01
  Well, it gets worse, right. So and then in 2016 I believe it
• 1:15:08
  was they started allowing, I believe it was the Obama
• 1:15:13
  administration who allowed this for so they, they allowed for
• 1:15:22
  H1B visas to be no, I'm sorry, I remember it.
• 1:15:27
  I may be confused. So it's either H1B visas or non
• 1:15:31
  domicile CDLS were allowed to be hired to all of these trucking
• 1:15:36
  companies in the Obama administration, 2016 beginning I
• 1:15:41
  believe and then 2021 they did either the H1B visa or the non
• 1:15:50
  domicile CDI. Think that one was the non
• 1:15:52
  domicile CDL that they would allow.
• 1:15:55
  If you had an H1B visa and a non domicile CDL, you could truck
• 1:16:01
  throughout the country. It wasn't a big deal.
• 1:16:03
  OK, How? Previously, if you were you had
• 1:16:07
  an international driver's license out of Mexico, you could
• 1:16:10
  drive up to Chicago, drop your load, turn around, pick up
• 1:16:14
  something and take it back to Mexico.
• 1:16:16
  OK. Well, you have to follow a
• 1:16:20
  specific route. No, no.
• 1:16:22
  OK. So but after they did that non
• 1:16:26
  domicile CDL, you'd get a company that's based out of
• 1:16:29
  Mexico that they'll have a USDOT number and then they'll have A1
• 1:16:35
  truck registered in the US. So they're registered in both
• 1:16:39
  countries. And then they'll take all those
• 1:16:42
  Mexican drivers who have H1B visas and non domicile CDLS and
• 1:16:46
  they'll do all this point to point transport.
• 1:16:49
  Now Chicago, they mainly are ran by like the Russian mob kind of
• 1:16:54
  deal and they use a lot of like Ukrainian essentially slaves
• 1:17:01
  that they bring them over as H1B visas and then get them non
• 1:17:05
  domicile CDLS and then like I've.
• 1:17:09
  Actually, you told me this is, I think you told me about this
• 1:17:11
  when we talked, right? I might have it's it's it's
• 1:17:14
  where. Where there the the cost of of
• 1:17:17
  those drivers, what they charge is like next to nothing and it's
• 1:17:19
  kind of destroying your industry on a whole.
• 1:17:22
  It's a mile. Yeah, keep, keep going because
• 1:17:24
  this. Is yeah, keep going, keep going.
• 1:17:26
  I just, it's just yeah, it's just, it's just.
• 1:17:27
  I remembered that conversation. But yeah, keep explaining
• 1:17:29
  please. Yeah.
• 1:17:30
  So they they got all these guys coming in and they're just
• 1:17:34
  flooding the industry. Well, so now they've got all
• 1:17:39
  these different trucking companies and these different
• 1:17:41
  entities that are like 1020 trucks what or whatnot leasing
• 1:17:45
  all these trucks and they're putting these drivers in them.
• 1:17:49
  And then once they smoke out ADOT number, they just move all
• 1:17:54
  those drivers to another dot number.
• 1:17:56
  So like what? Do you mean what do you mean
• 1:17:58
  smoke it out? What do you mean smoke out?
• 1:18:01
  The dot number ruin it to where the USDOT shuts them down.
• 1:18:04
  Shuts, not the carrier. But they don't have any asset or
• 1:18:07
  they get a huge wreck and kill everybody.
• 1:18:11
  So like the a couple of months ago there was a a guy from
• 1:18:17
  Ethiopia and I don't know if you've seen Tik toks and reels
• 1:18:21
  about truck drivers in Ethiopia. I'm not big on top.
• 1:18:25
  Very good. That's because they're supposed
• 1:18:28
  to run, man. Ethiopians are runners, dude.
• 1:18:31
  They run like the marathons and, and the, you know, all that
• 1:18:34
  shit. They're the ones that win the
• 1:18:35
  Boston and New York Marathon. They're not.
• 1:18:37
  They're not driving trucks. Apparently.
• 1:18:40
  Well, he ran fast. He that guy literally had just
• 1:18:44
  been given a ticket for like 55 miles an hour over the speed
• 1:18:49
  limit. Oh God.
• 1:18:51
  Gosh, two weeks, two or three weeks previous, hadn't gone to
• 1:18:54
  court on it yet. And then he's doing like 85
• 1:18:59
  miles an hour pulling an Amazon trailer, pops over a hill,
• 1:19:02
  there's construction, never shuts it down and just plows
• 1:19:06
  through a bunch of bars and kills 5.
• 1:19:10
  And it was like holy cow. And they thought the dude was
• 1:19:14
  intoxicated because he was just like he found very not all their
• 1:19:23
  kind of deal. Turned out he was actually
• 1:19:26
  completely sober. He was just a blooming idiot.
• 1:19:30
  So. But those type of drivers have
• 1:19:34
  infiltrated the truck driving industries and ruined it.
• 1:19:38
  Now you get the a lot of the ones up in Chicago, they
• 1:19:43
  actually have to have a lot of the loads.
• 1:19:47
  They have a special insurance on them because they'll hijack the
• 1:19:51
  load in, ransom it and make really extra money for it to.
• 1:19:56
  Explain how that works. Yeah, so.
• 1:19:59
  They'll you'll get one of these companies that they'll catch the
• 1:20:04
  load from a broker. And then they'll take it and
• 1:20:10
  they'll be like, this load doesn't pay enough money.
• 1:20:13
  They've already picked it up. Like we're not delivering it
• 1:20:15
  unless you paid this money. Right.
• 1:20:19
  Oh, and it may be 1/2 the value of the load kind of deal.
• 1:20:25
  And then they'll sit there and sit on it.
• 1:20:28
  And then finally they'll pay it out and they'll deliver it
• 1:20:30
  because the customer needs it. Now let me ask you this Who are
• 1:20:33
  they doing that to? Because they wouldn't do that to
• 1:20:35
  a company like Amazon, would they?
• 1:20:38
  No, they mainly do it to like actual brokerages.
• 1:20:42
  Amazon isn't that big of I. I actually have hauled Amazon
• 1:20:48
  freight. I hauled a trailer with one box
• 1:20:51
  in it are. You kidding me?
• 1:20:53
  Yeah, it was just literally. A full size trailer with one box
• 1:20:57
  in it. One box, that was it.
• 1:20:59
  It was. I went from San Marcus up to
• 1:21:03
  Dallas, down to Houston and back over to San Marcus.
• 1:21:06
  With a box. What was the box?
• 1:21:09
  No, no, I was. Too curious?
• 1:21:10
  Two of them weren't loaded, the other one was just.
• 1:21:13
  It was just a box. Were you curious what was in the
• 1:21:16
  box? I'd be like, what's in that box?
• 1:21:17
  Man, but I felt like I felt like, you know, Tom Hanks and
• 1:21:20
  that maybe kept way by the way, I actually but down the road
• 1:21:27
  from where that box was supposedly delivered.
• 1:21:31
  Yeah. From the movie that way.
• 1:21:35
  Interesting. I thought it was fun.
• 1:21:37
  Yeah, that's interesting. That's.
• 1:21:41
  Coming. Yeah, there's a lot of problems
• 1:21:43
  in the trucking industry. It's horrible.
• 1:21:45
  So I would never advise anybody to be a truck driver ever.
• 1:21:50
  OK. 'Cause I wasn't looking, I
• 1:21:52
  wasn't looking to be a truck driver.
• 1:21:53
  Are you sure? Does that make it not a viable
• 1:21:59
  industry to make a living in anymore or as an owner?
• 1:22:07
  Because you see all these ads that say, you know, come work
• 1:22:09
  for us and make $4000 a week or whatever, 2 I might be
• 1:22:15
  exaggerated. Maybe it's 2 grand a week.
• 1:22:17
  That's the righteous bucks, though.
• 1:22:19
  I I made in this week. I grossed out $7500 a week.
• 1:22:29
  But are you working for yourself?
• 1:22:30
  Are you an owner operator? I essentially go I'm under a
• 1:22:33
  broker but but like $7500 roughly.
• 1:22:39
  What did you pay the broker? Well, so they they actually, I
• 1:22:43
  don't know when they get. Oh, so they'll take their cut
• 1:22:45
  out of that 7500? Never know what they're charging
• 1:22:48
  OK like this much like. Right.
• 1:22:51
  Yeah, OK. But you still, you're still not
• 1:22:53
  you're, you're still going to make and you don't have to
• 1:22:55
  answer that, but you're still going to make at least half of
• 1:22:57
  that that you earned. Yeah, no, I probably I, I, I
• 1:23:01
  will clear after everything. I'll clear about 1500.
• 1:23:06
  OK, Oh, that's a drag. Taxes and everything.
• 1:23:09
  Well that now to granted there are other expenses on my taxes
• 1:23:15
  for things. OK, I mean I like I have video
• 1:23:20
  equipment that I have to use to make my YouTube videos.
• 1:23:24
  Oh yes, this is true for. Sure.
• 1:23:25
  Yeah, yeah, different things. My flights I have to pay for my
• 1:23:29
  club membership. You got to pay for the flights.
• 1:23:32
  They don't pay for your flights. Well, no, I mean I have to pay
• 1:23:35
  for all of it all the time, like.
• 1:23:36
  Well, I don't know, that's why I asked.
• 1:23:38
  Yeah, but we use when you try to work in like all the fuel.
• 1:23:43
  I pay for all the fuel Ubers. I had to pay for wreckers to
• 1:23:48
  undeck them, which just basically some like crane dough
• 1:23:53
  pick off the back of it. Yeah, all that comes into play.
• 1:24:00
  Got to pay for it and then later on if I get claims like I had
• 1:24:05
  one that the there was a thing rubbing on the back of the cab,
• 1:24:09
  so the back of the cab's got to be repainted.
• 1:24:11
  So that's going to cost me $1000 down the road kind of deal,
• 1:24:16
  right? And I pay insurance thing for it
• 1:24:18
  but still all that. It's.
• 1:24:23
  Not the most. That's what I was going to say.
• 1:24:26
  So it's not the most lucrative thing in the world, but you
• 1:24:27
  consistently are working for the most part.
• 1:24:30
  And because you don't have a massive overhead now because of
• 1:24:33
  how you adjusted your lifestyle, you know?
• 1:24:36
  We do OK and like we end up doing our like granted trying to
• 1:24:43
  make my my YouTube channel actually profitable.
• 1:24:46
  While you're yeah, yeah out there, Yeah, so do you.
• 1:24:51
  Are you dropping shorts every day?
• 1:24:53
  No. OK, so this is so this is we got
• 1:24:55
  about we got about what are we at?
• 1:24:56
  We're at here. We got about 5-6 minutes left, 5
• 1:24:59
  minutes left. So some, some some things that
• 1:25:01
  cause I've had my real estate used YouTube channel for over 20
• 1:25:04
  years. OK, so in perspective, I'm at
• 1:25:07
  about half a million views and I have almost 2000 videos.
• 1:25:11
  OK, our show, we have a hundred 107 videos and then we started.
• 1:25:18
  Up 300 and something. OK, and and that's because of
• 1:25:22
  shorts. So in March I started dropping
• 1:25:23
  shorts Lloyd twice a day. OK, every day, twice a day.
• 1:25:27
  I'm my shorts are still loading, are still going till I think I'm
• 1:25:30
  in at the end of July now. OK, that alone has drawn massive
• 1:25:35
  attention because I'm using Dave.
• 1:25:36
  Remember who Dave is to give me my SEO content, my hashtags, my
• 1:25:40
  keywords. I plan them out consistently
• 1:25:43
  every day at 10:00 AM and 4:00 PM.
• 1:25:45
  You can go to our channel and see a new short drop.
• 1:25:49
  Days of the show, I'm sorry, 6:00 AM and 4:00 PM days of the
• 1:25:52
  show, they're shorts at six AM, 4:00 PM, but then the show
• 1:25:55
  actually drops at 10 AM. So Wednesdays and Sundays
• 1:25:57
  there's three video droppings. Every other day of the week
• 1:25:59
  there's two dropping. Then I'm trying to get in the
• 1:26:01
  habit of dropping a short 1/3 short the day before each show
• 1:26:05
  announcing who's coming on tomorrow to the show.
• 1:26:08
  OK, that alone has really has taken us from the first year
• 1:26:13
  where you're on doing this. It was 1 to 28,000 and three
• 1:26:17
  months like Mike we talked about earlier.
• 1:26:18
  We jumped from 28,000 to 100,000 views.
• 1:26:21
  Our subscribers are still under 100, but they're still watching
• 1:26:26
  it, which makes it more relevant with the Google spiders and
• 1:26:29
  stuff that goes on the Internet. So if you start doing something
• 1:26:31
  like that, shorts are 3045, sixty second clips.
• 1:26:35
  If you start consistently dropping something every day, a
• 1:26:38
  couple times a day, and schedule them out like I've been doing, I
• 1:26:41
  think you'll see a lot more growth with your thing.
• 1:26:45
  And then obviously get on some on social media platforms that
• 1:26:47
  go with content traders and go with podcast, which is how I
• 1:26:50
  found you on one of the podcast pages, right?
• 1:26:54
  That that helped us because we're doing it all organically.
• 1:26:56
  We're not spending money to grow our stuff.
• 1:26:58
  Yeah, luckily for him, I watched the numbers like a hawk.
• 1:27:02
  I just didn't see is the he didn't even know what he was
• 1:27:05
  doing. He just, he was trying an idea
• 1:27:08
  like you said, you know, being creative, you try ideas, a lot
• 1:27:11
  of them failed. That's what people don't
• 1:27:13
  understand is creative minds. You had 100 bad ideas before you
• 1:27:18
  came up with that one that finally the light bulb, you were
• 1:27:21
  able to work it all the way through.
• 1:27:23
  I do the same thing as you. I look for all the angles that
• 1:27:26
  are going to destroy this idea, right?
• 1:27:30
  And sometimes I find it real quick.
• 1:27:31
  Sometimes it takes me days, months, weeks, years, whatever.
• 1:27:34
  But I like that analogy because I kind of do the same thing.
• 1:27:39
  What I started seeing was his consistency drew attention to
• 1:27:45
  the algorithm that YouTube uses, right?
• 1:27:47
  So all the sudden we were in front of people that we normally
• 1:27:51
  otherwise would not have been right.
• 1:27:53
  Right, and we've grown from a podcast standpoint.
• 1:27:55
  We're #3 in Phoenix now. We were in the top ten about six
• 1:27:59
  months into it. But we, we broke the top three,
• 1:28:01
  I think a couple months ago under the arts and entertainment
• 1:28:04
  category because let's face it, that's what podcasts are.
• 1:28:08
  But that's pretty cool to have dropped poked the top three.
• 1:28:12
  And in that same amount of time, we went from like just the
• 1:28:15
  United States and Japan, because his son was stationed in Japan
• 1:28:19
  at the time, to 2 count. We went from two countries to 19
• 1:28:23
  countries with that consistency, doing it all the time.
• 1:28:27
  Yeah, which is cool. So I, I have shorts, OK, yeah,
• 1:28:32
  I, I don't drop them that often. We do them on our big resort
• 1:28:37
  stays and but I don't necessarily do them on the
• 1:28:42
  little ones because of the fact of how I have to do the filming
• 1:28:45
  and things. It can but see a short dude, a
• 1:28:48
  short dude can be anything. Just like with my what I've
• 1:28:51
  learned from our podcast, I'm taking over to my real estate
• 1:28:54
  guy 1. So I started my own moment with
• 1:28:56
  the real estate guy podcast on my page because I'd like why
• 1:29:00
  not? So I in order to do shorts on
• 1:29:02
  this kind of platform, I got to record 5 minutes.
• 1:29:04
  So I'm going to have a couple industry guests on so I can
• 1:29:06
  start getting shorts together. But a short can be you walking.
• 1:29:10
  It can be. It doesn't have to necessarily
• 1:29:11
  be just about what your content is.
• 1:29:15
  People will, will, will gravitate to you as an
• 1:29:18
  individual more than it will as a business.
• 1:29:21
  So you could, you could when you have your trucks on trucks on
• 1:29:24
  trucks on trucks, that could be a 32nd short man today I'm going
• 1:29:28
  look at all these whatever you're hauling.
• 1:29:30
  I'm this is where I'm going today.
• 1:29:31
  Something you see funny on the road.
• 1:29:33
  You look at this crap. You know, this guy's got the
• 1:29:35
  hood over his thing driving his truck.
• 1:29:37
  He's you know what I mean? Stuff like that.
• 1:29:38
  Keeps people coming. Back it keeps them engaged so.
• 1:29:42
  Right, back to your main message.
• 1:29:44
  First, I kind of wondered what he was doing because we're
• 1:29:47
  trying to push a podcast. But what we?
• 1:29:50
  But what I noticed was that does exactly that.
• 1:29:54
  You know, people see that 45 seconds, and they want to hear
• 1:29:57
  what the end of the story is. That's human nature.
• 1:30:00
  I would too, right? You would, too, if it's
• 1:30:03
  something you're interested in. You're like, hey, man, I want to
• 1:30:05
  know the end of this. Well, luckily for us, Chris has
• 1:30:09
  a link to all that stuff at the end.
• 1:30:10
  Here's the episode. Right.
• 1:30:12
  Yeah. So.
• 1:30:13
  Check out the shorts that I have over on Room by the Hour on
• 1:30:17
  YouTube. That's what I'm saying, but
• 1:30:19
  that's what I'm saying. Do that and do little teasers.
• 1:30:22
  Hey, next month and really it can be sitting in front of your
• 1:30:26
  camera like this where you're at now.
• 1:30:27
  Hey, next month, check it out. We're going to go to this place
• 1:30:29
  and this place you're going to want to check, you want to, you
• 1:30:31
  know, TuneIn to see what these resorts are about.
• 1:30:33
  You know, when you get there, you just film yourself walking
• 1:30:36
  up to the resort for 20 seconds. That's a short, man.
• 1:30:39
  You drop the short. So that way as you go through
• 1:30:42
  your editing process, a filming process, every day, you're just
• 1:30:45
  dropping these little teasers. Because like money buddy, if I
• 1:30:48
  watch that now, I want to see the rest of it, right?
• 1:30:51
  Yes, that's the whole point. I'm sure I didn't.
• 1:30:54
  I didn't know it dude. I didn't realize it till we
• 1:30:55
  started. I started doing it with this and
• 1:30:58
  then and then Mike started telling me numbers and I was
• 1:31:00
  like, oh light bulb Bing. This actually drives people and
• 1:31:04
  keeps this relevant on something because seriously three months
• 1:31:07
  almost 70,000 views is insane If you know advertising right, If
• 1:31:12
  you compare it to my business page, which is half a million
• 1:31:15
  views in over 20 years and I have serious cut.
• 1:31:18
  I was on the radio for a year. I had five videos every time an
• 1:31:22
  episode dropped on the radio. I ran good news Arizona for 106
• 1:31:25
  episodes, which had three to four videos every single episode
• 1:31:28
  that aired. I was on American Dream TV.
• 1:31:30
  Google that it's a whole real estate platform that based out
• 1:31:33
  of California. I I and I make videos on my HUD
• 1:31:37
  houses. I mean, I just, I have an
• 1:31:39
  unlimited amount of playlists. I have so much content, it's
• 1:31:41
  insane that I only have 500,000 views in over 20 years.
• 1:31:45
  So if you do these little things, I think you'll see a
• 1:31:47
  growth. So I'm at like roughly about,
• 1:31:54
  I'm going to say 350,000 years. That's three.
• 1:32:00
  Years. See, that's fantastic, man.
• 1:32:03
  Like that's the thing. I I made a mistake somewhere
• 1:32:05
  along the lines with mine, but with this growing as quick as it
• 1:32:09
  is and yeah, he's. Averaging 100,000 views a year.
• 1:32:12
  That's good. Yeah, so I would you start
• 1:32:14
  dropping shorts. I think your number's going to
• 1:32:16
  go up, man. Yeah, you're.
• 1:32:16
  Going to start to go up like threefold to begin with and then
• 1:32:20
  that will take itself off. Yeah.
• 1:32:22
  So I'll be honest, I'm, I'm actually kind of holding back
• 1:32:25
  from that right now, OK. We're done.
• 1:32:28
  You're, you're so I had a friend and he had, he started a YouTube
• 1:32:35
  channel and he, his second video went viral and he was instantly
• 1:32:42
  monetized. And his second video was
• 1:32:46
  absolutely stupid. It was nothing that he wanted to
• 1:32:49
  make this part about or his channel about.
• 1:32:52
  And then everybody was like, anyway, where's that?
• 1:32:56
  Where's the content? Where's the stuff?
• 1:32:58
  And it ended up like mentally breaking the dude because he
• 1:33:02
  didn't have a back story, he didn't have a.
• 1:33:05
  History. Yeah, OK.
• 1:33:07
  And so I kind of told myself like, I'm not going to try to do
• 1:33:13
  anything to really blow this up. OK, Well, after I can get
• 1:33:18
  content and I get a following it that way, you can go back and
• 1:33:22
  you can see that my first videos suck.
• 1:33:25
  My first video. Trust.
• 1:33:28
  Us of like the the the intro video is horrible because I'm
• 1:33:33
  literally talking about the meth I found in the coffee pot in
• 1:33:36
  Econo Lodge in London, KY. Oh God.
• 1:33:40
  Oh is it I? I've had many, many wonderful
• 1:33:45
  experiences in hotels. I love it, don't get me wrong.
• 1:33:48
  I've I've had to make my own bed before.
• 1:33:51
  Yeah. I've had to be like, Nope, I've
• 1:33:54
  had one hotel in Ohio that I I finally got a room on the third
• 1:33:59
  try kind of deal like that was that was fun.
• 1:34:04
  But yeah, no, I I'm so the reason I was dabbling in the AI
• 1:34:09
  editors and stuff was because I was going to try to just
• 1:34:12
  basically feed it into there and let it drop them for me.
• 1:34:17
  But I haven't found one that I liked because they all suck.
• 1:34:21
  So even when you pay for it. I like this one.
• 1:34:24
  Riverside actually does a really nice job.
• 1:34:26
  All the shorts that you see are pretty much theirs.
• 1:34:30
  I cut a few of them up myself, but probably 98% of them are the
• 1:34:35
  ones that they did automatically for me.
• 1:34:37
  I just tell them how long I want it to be and then Chris puts
• 1:34:42
  them on a schedule. So you know this, we do pay for
• 1:34:47
  this, but I got to give them credit.
• 1:34:49
  They've they've made huge improvements in the year.
• 1:34:52
  Well, almost two years we've used them.
• 1:34:54
  They do a really nice job. Yeah, yeah, they do for sure.
• 1:34:59
  We're. Going to wrap up, wrap the heat,
• 1:35:02
  but we're going to wrap it to you wrap the show up.
• 1:35:04
  That's all folks. That's all folks.
• 1:35:06
  So yeah, go go ahead, Lloyd, plug yourself.
• 1:35:10
  Yes, please. Give yourself a plug.
• 1:35:12
  So room of the hour on YouTube, it's a value based Travel
• 1:35:17
  Channel to where we look at how much it actually costs to go on
• 1:35:20
  a cruise or resorts or take a trip up to the northeast or stay
• 1:35:25
  in Nashville for a weekend for the fun of it.
• 1:35:27
  Or go to California or Vegas or do a flight across the country
• 1:35:31
  with some dude who at 24,000,000 miles or Cancun or yeah, you do
• 1:35:37
  a lot of stuff. Me and the wife.
• 1:35:39
  It's not about hooker hotels, but I stayed in the water.
• 1:35:43
  Room by the Hour on YouTube, right?
• 1:35:47
  Room by the hour on YouTube and we've always we always wrap our
• 1:35:51
  show up with this. Don't let the bad days when if
• 1:35:53
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• 1:35:55
  to reach out to them because if you take your own life, you're
• 1:35:58
  going to leave a hole in somebody's heart tomorrow.
• 1:35:59
  Somebody does love you, even if you don't think they do.
• 1:36:02
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• 1:36:05
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• 1:36:08
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• 1:36:15
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• 1:36:17
  So those of you that watched hello until next time we'll see
• 1:36:21
  you. Thanks for being on the show,
• 1:36:22
  Lloyd. We appreciate your great
• 1:36:23
  conversation, man. Let's.
• 1:36:24
  Talk again. Thanks for coming on.
• 1:36:25
  Nice meeting you, Lloyd. How?
• 1:36:27
  Are you? All right, guys.
• 1:36:28
  Have a great day. Love you brother.
• 1:36:30
  Love you too brother. Bye bye.
• 1:36:35
  We don't want to fly in this door for you.
• 1:36:40
  Look the tablet. Go insane.
• 1:36:44
  Feel the tears. Open your light on your journey.
• 1:36:49
  Feel the trail behind your eyes. Feel yourself and need your
• 1:37:05
  turn. Take a moment.
• 1:37:07
  Look. Until you see it, what you say
• 1:37:10
  on it. Oh yeah.
• 1:38:39
  Come down here, we haven't found the almighty.
• 1:38:59
  You got a dream. Who in your life, every day take
• 1:39:11
  your turn behind your eyes, Feel the soul revolution now.
• 1:39:16
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:39:28
  Take a moment. Listen to your tear.
• 1:39:32
  Fight the battle with you more clear.
• 1:40:01
  You gotta, you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.