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Mac & Bone Show - Jones Angell Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Jones, Angel, voice of the Heels. Jones, thanks for coming
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: on with us, man, during a bye week.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, doing great. Good to be with you guys. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: frustrating game. I think Carolina felt like it played well
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  Speaker 3: enough for a large part of that game to win it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Carolina really controlled things early in that contest,
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  Speaker 3: for sure, leading 17-3 late in the first half. But
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  Speaker 3: then To Clemson's credit, Tigers started coming back and playing better,
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  Speaker 3: and Carolina, I felt like, got a little conservative, and
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  Speaker 3: Clemson for sure started pressuring the Tar Heels a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more. And then, man, that lightning delay, guys, that'll
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  Speaker 3: be a big what if, I think, for Carolina. Two
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  Speaker 3: and a half hours, that game got paused with the
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  Speaker 3: Tar Heels looking at a second and goal from the
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  Speaker 3: seven-yard line with Eight minutes and 11 seconds left, leading
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  Speaker 3: by two at the time. And, yeah, sit there for
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  Speaker 3: a while, eventually get back in it, kick a field goal, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 3: And then from that point forward, Clemson really dominated those
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  Speaker 3: final eight minutes or so after the break. And so
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  Speaker 3: there are a lot of what-ifs, I think, for the
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  Speaker 3: Tar Heels, a lot of things that they saw that
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  Speaker 3: they'll need to improve on. And a long way to go,
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  Speaker 3: certainly this season for Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Outside the lightning delay, Jones, what changed within the game?
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  Speaker 2: What was Clemson doing differently that allowed them to eventually
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  Speaker 2: take the game over?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought defensively for Clemson, they really started bringing
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  Speaker 3: a little more pressure and just manning Carolina up defensively,
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  Speaker 3: trying to say, hey, you guys get open. And I
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  Speaker 3: think Carolina has got to find some playmakers out there
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  Speaker 3: on the edge. And Jordan Schiff's a really good player
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  Speaker 3: and an all-ACC type of receiver, but he's got to
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  Speaker 3: have some assistance out there. It can't be just him.
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  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, I think Carolina's got to find some
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  Speaker 3: guys who can get away from that on the perimeter
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  Speaker 3: because other teams are going to try and do that. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Clemson also has some really good players. In the secondary,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's one of their strengths. So they were
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  Speaker 3: just manning up and bringing pressure, in my opinion. And then, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Carolina defensively, I thought, again, coming out of that lightning delay,
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  Speaker 3: and who's to say why or how or the right
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  Speaker 3: way to manage it? Yeah, I don't know. But Carolina
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  Speaker 3: did not look like the same defense post-lightning delay. than
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  Speaker 3: it had for the first two and three quarters games
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  Speaker 3: of the season. Yeah, just missing tackles, bad angles. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just stuff that Carolina had not been doing. And so
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  Speaker 3: I think that really hurt them defensively, just overall play
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  Speaker 3: after that delay was over.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Jones, I don't want to get you involved in
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  Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories. I will leave that for our Tar
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  Speaker 1: Heel friends on the text line. Those that pointed out, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we had a good 45 minutes before the weather really
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  Speaker 1: hit or whatever before I saw any lightning. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: leave that on the text line, and you can feel
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  Speaker 1: free to text that in if you're a Tar Heel fan.
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  Speaker 1: But I do want to follow up on your comment there. Like,
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  Speaker 1: do you almost... I mean, if they were able to
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  Speaker 1: finish that game and there was only six minutes left,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what Tar Heel fans are so annoyed by.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, could we have gotten that in? Do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like the outcome might have been different? Because they're driving.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like they were kind of pulling the momentum
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  Speaker 1: back from Clemson. Do you think the Heels might have
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  Speaker 1: wanted it, if not for the delay?
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's a big what if, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I do think Carolina absolutely had momentum. I think Clemson
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  Speaker 3: was a little tired defensively. The Tar Heels were really
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  Speaker 3: running the ball well in particular. As Carolina really did
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  Speaker 3: that entire game, really running the ball well on that
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  Speaker 3: drive and did have the offensive momentum again. After, again,
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  Speaker 3: Carolina really played well in every phase of the game
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  Speaker 3: through the first two quarters. And so it was definitely, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it'll be a what if. I think it's easy to say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: of course they would have won. Obviously, we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I will say, you know, that my understanding for kind
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  Speaker 3: of how the weather played out is that there was
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  Speaker 3: a smaller cell that hit the automated alert. Right. So
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  Speaker 3: if there's a lightning strike within the eight miles, it's
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  Speaker 3: not somebody's judgment call. There's an automated thing that tells you, hey,
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  Speaker 3: this has occurred within this this radius. because then the
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  Speaker 3: game went into that pause due to the smaller piece
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  Speaker 3: of weather that never did affect the stadium at all,
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  Speaker 3: then that allowed a much larger piece of weather to
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  Speaker 3: come through, which did affect the stadium both with heavy
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  Speaker 3: rain and some storm and stuff that you wouldn't necessarily
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  Speaker 3: want to have tens of thousands of fans and players
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  Speaker 3: and coaches involved out in the open with. I do
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  Speaker 3: think as it all turned out, it was a little
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  Speaker 3: frustrating with the weather. But I do think everybody was
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  Speaker 3: just following the protocol that has been set.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of Billy Edwards' performance so far
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  Speaker 2: at quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't very good on Saturday, and I think
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  Speaker 3: Billy would be the first one to tell you that.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't as accurate as he has been. I think, again,
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  Speaker 3: some of those windows to throw in were a little
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  Speaker 3: tighter than they had been because of Clemson doing a
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  Speaker 3: good job defensively. And where I do think, regardless of
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  Speaker 3: what is happening, that Billy Edwards can improve, I really
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  Speaker 3: thought he looked unsettled in the pocket in the third
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  Speaker 3: and fourth quarters in particular of that game. And it
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  Speaker 3: was as if he had been hit a ton more.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think he was getting hit a ton. Clemson
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  Speaker 3: was bringing a lot of pressure. I thought Carolina did
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  Speaker 3: a decent job of picking that pressure up. It was
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  Speaker 3: a kind of a messy pocket and there were people around,
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  Speaker 3: but I didn't necessarily think it wasn't as though he
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  Speaker 3: was just getting rocked every, every play or something. But
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  Speaker 3: it looked like just that presence of that pressure and
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  Speaker 3: some of that messy pocket and just the bodies around
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  Speaker 3: him was, got his feet a little unsettled. And when
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  Speaker 3: that happens in your, you're less accurate, et cetera. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I saw the same thing. I thought there
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  Speaker 1: was happy feet too, at times Jones, where do you
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  Speaker 1: get that little pitter patter?
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So let me ask you again.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. I'll just say quickly.
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  Speaker 3: First time Billy's played, he didn't play at all last
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  Speaker 3: season because of the injury. He played the first two games.
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  Speaker 3: But I think this is the most heat that he
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  Speaker 3: had seen. And I think you saw a guy who
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  Speaker 3: hadn't played in a year or so with that amount
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  Speaker 3: of heat in that stretch.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely.
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  Speaker 1: And in fairness, your first comments about, hey, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: it'll get C.J. Sadler back here and he can help,
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  Speaker 1: but your point about needing more weapons, too, to step up,
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  Speaker 1: that needs to be thrown in here. We'll end it
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  Speaker 1: on this real quick. Do you think they could go
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  Speaker 1: to O'Neal again? Do you think, I know some Tar
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  Speaker 1: Heel fans have been mentioning Burgess, the freshman. Like, do
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  Speaker 1: you think they would pull the trigger or do you
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  Speaker 1: think we're a ways off from that still? Like, what's
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  Speaker 1: your gut say?
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  Speaker 3: I think Carolina feels like both Miles O'Neal and Billy
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  Speaker 3: Edwards are capable of playing at the Division I level
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  Speaker 3: right now. I know that they had thought that there
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  Speaker 3: was going to be some more opportunity and maybe even
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  Speaker 3: sometimes in that TCU game that they were going to
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  Speaker 3: get O'Neal in the game, and just the game didn't
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  Speaker 3: play out that way. It didn't make sense to do it. Um,
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  Speaker 3: so I, that is to say, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: they'll pull that trigger. Notre Dame feels like a tough
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  Speaker 3: opponent to, uh, to all of a sudden go to
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  Speaker 3: a much younger quarterback with, um, I do think Travis
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  Speaker 3: Burgess also is going to be very heavily involved long
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  Speaker 3: run and possibly this year. at that spot because of
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  Speaker 3: his talent level. I think the way this season continues
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  Speaker 3: to play out may dictate some of those decisions as
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  Speaker 3: they move along.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see. Bye week this week, Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame next week. That will be a national spotlight game
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  Speaker 1: for them, no doubt about it. All right, Jones, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for joining us on your bye week, man. I realize
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  Speaker 1: most people, when they get a week off from their job,
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  Speaker 1: would not want to talk to us. So I do
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it, brother. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: And love your Thursday guys. We'll we'll talk to you
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  Speaker 3: again next week.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. I like here. All right. Coach speak
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  Speaker 2: from Joe. Have a good bye week, brother.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: Joe speak.