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Ep.5 Da price just went up · Football Junkies podcast

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Double bag alert. We got another double bag alert. We got another double bag alert folks
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Zach Wilson gets traded to the Broncos Jamar Chase PS2 and Michael Parsons get their fifth year option picked up
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Trey Hendrickson throwing out retirement
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Penae Sue well resend the market and
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Amon Ross a brown we're gonna talk about all of this and more on the fifth episode of the football junkies podcast
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I'm your host great
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GM
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Okay, future hall of fame GM. That's not on a team right now. Kale. Let's get it. All right, folks
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The day that we have all been waiting for that's right the draft the draft is
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Tonight, okay
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People are going to get called
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Playmakers are gonna be added to teams. The deck is about to change. Oh my god
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I cannot tell you how excited I am for the draft tonight, but we didn't come here to talk about the draft not today
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because we have
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Double bag alerts folks. That's right. That's right receiver for the Lions Amon Ross ain't brown
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Okay, ain't a four-year
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120 million dollar deal
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77 million dollars of that is guaranteed and now he is the highest paid receiver in the league right now
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Now let's take a look at everything before we you know get into, you know, so celebratory mood. Okay
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Amon Ross ain't brown
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Since being drafted by the Lions has proven that he is the number one receiver on that team
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No matter what anyone says no matter, you know what this analyst or what this former player, you know
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May may want to try to debate Amon Ross. Hey brown is that dude?
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Okay, he has continued to show
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Consistency and he has continued to show up in the biggest moments when his team needs him
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Okay, just this past season he had a hundred and nineteen receptions
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1,515 yards and 10 touchdowns 10 touchdowns folks. Okay in 2022 he had a hundred and eight receptions
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1,161 yards and six touchdowns and in his first season he had 90 receptions
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912 yards five touchdowns now granted, you know, it his rookie year, you know, probably wasn't the best by some
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But this shows you that he can be a thousand yard reception
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double digit touchdown
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caliber planer Amon Ross ain't brown is not being talked about as much as a
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D. Bo Samuel a Cooper cup of the Vontae Adams a AJ Brown a Tyree kill or a Justin Jefferson
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Why I don't know but this dude
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He is an elite receiver for him to do the things that he do
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Game in and game out is amazing and I'm so so so so happy for him now to the other
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Lions player that got the bag
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Pena Sue well, that's right. You got to love your offensive linemen
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Especially your tackles are right because it tackles makes all your quarterback stays clean. Remember that now
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Pena Sue well inked a four-year
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112 million dollar deal
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85 million of that is guaranteed 42.9 of that is guaranteed at signing which averages
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around 28 million a year and he now is the highest paid offensive linemen in NFL history
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Leading up to that draft
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Where it was Pena Sue well Jamar chase and a few other players
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There was a debate going on for specifically the bangles on whether they should have drafted
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You know Pena Sue well or Jamar chase and ultimately it ended with the bangles
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drafting Joe Burroughs teammate at LSU and Jamar chase and the Lions picking Pena Sue well now
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I'm going to try to be as non-biased as I possibly can but since Pena Sue well
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Has gotten into the lead you can make a strong case that he has been
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The best what one of the best
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Right tackles in the lead. He has consistently
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consistently showed
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Greatness in every single game every single matchup. He is holding his own the best way possible. They've used him
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Even in trick plays. I think he's even gotten a first down
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I think he got a first down in in one play. He can do it all
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Okay, and that is the offensive linemen if we're being real here that the bangles needed now
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I want to I want to try to paint a picture in a perfect world
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What if the bangles did draft Pena Sue well?
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Could we make a case that Joe Burrough probably winning probably wouldn't get hurt as much
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Could we make a case that they probably won the Super Bowl when they you know made that run that year?
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Who knows we'll never know but it's safe to say that
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This is a reason why when you have players like a Pena Sue well, you know coming into the draft
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You have to you have to get them especially if it's a need simply because all great offensive linemen
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They're hard to find they're super hard to find the Lane Johnson's the Trent Williams the Ronnie Stanley's of the world
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those are hard
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um players to find in the draft and when you have a draft where you may have one or two of
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You know one or two prospects that might be on that level or could get to that level
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You have to go and you have to get them you have to you have no choice, but you have to address it because
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Teams now are beginning to value the defensive line more. That's why you are beginning to see so many defensive linemen
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Players especially pass rushers get paid the amount of money that they get paid
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Whether we want to admit it or not folks
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Pass rushers are going to continue to get bigger stronger faster and way more athletic
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And the only way that you can counter that is if you get a
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Perennial great offensive linemen, especially your tackles your tackles they they have to be top tier
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Okay guards you can you can interchange guards honestly speaking here, but your tackles
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They have to those are your foundational pieces and if you don't invest into your tackles
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What's going to happen is your quarterback is going to get hurt more and when they get hurt more
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That lessens the chance of you actually making a run to potentially try to win a championship
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whether we want to admit or not folks
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Um, if you don't have an offensive line
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You're not going to get far no matter if you're in the NFC or AFC
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You are not going to get far because I guarantee you
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You're gonna go up against a team that's gonna have a TJ Y a Miles Garrett a Max Crosby a Nick Bosa
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as a Darius Smith a Josh Allen a Brian Burns all those different type of pass rushers who can
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Consistently go at you all four quarters, especially TJ Y
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But that's another another story for another day
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But I say all that to say this let this be a reminder on why you should always
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Value your offensive linemen, especially your tackles
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Who's make sure that your quarterback stays clean and if your quarterback is not staying clean
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That is a problem that the offensive line has to address
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Just saying now let's talk about these fifth year options. Okay?
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So we have Patrick's retain the second
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We have Jamar Chase and we have Michael Parsons who all three of them and their respective teams
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They have decided to pick up the fifth year option for them now
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Here's where things can get a little bit tricky. Okay with PS two's fifth year option
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He will be making
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19.8 million this this upcoming season, but his market value would be a four year a
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2.3 million dollar deal which averages around 20.5 million which would make him the second highest paid corner according to spot
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Rack, okay? When you look at Jamar Chase's fifth year option valued around 21.8 million
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Now when you look at his market value according to spot rack, he would be valued at for a
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Four year 104.5 million dollar deal which would average around
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26.1 million which would make him the fourth highest paid receiver according to spot rack when you look at Michael Parsons
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fifth year option which would which is valued at 21.32 million
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For this upcoming season all of these
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Fifth year options are you know are pretty good price points. However?
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the problem with
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Jamar Chase and Micah well specifically Jamar Chase is that technically speaking here?
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the Bengal should have paid Jamar Chase this year
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because
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Whether we want to admit it or not the receiver market is is a ticking time bomb once again now granted
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I'm on Ross St. Brown
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You know currently holds the title as the highest paid receiver, but pretty soon
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That's going to get taken away because Justin Jefferson still has to get paid CD Lam still has to get paid
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Paid Brandon I you it still has to get paid and T Higgins still has to get paid. So between one of those four
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Someone is going to reset the market again. It's going to happen before the end of the the 2025 season
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someone's going to reset the receiver market again and so
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what you're seeing is
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um
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Especially for the Bengals there they're in a rock and a hard place simply because you have two
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You know elite receivers who are looking for big-time money T Higgins is still looking for a deal even though
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He's already
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Requested for a trade who was to say that Jamar Chase won't do the same thing
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Because the Bengals can't pay both Jamar Chase and T Higgins
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It just can't happen because neither one of them is probably going to want to take you know less than the other
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They're probably gonna want you know more than what the other person got which I mean, you know
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You can't really blame them for that
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But when it comes to the cowboy situation right with Micah Parsons
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He can he can honestly speaking if he has a crazy year
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I'm talking about you know
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He could win a defensive player of the year that can Mac that could price him out of Dallas because right now
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Micah Parsons
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Is on a path where if he hits free agency I
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Can't promise you that he won't reset the market for patch rusters again
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I can't promise you that simply because of how talented he is because not only can he play
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You know as a patch rusher he could also probably play pretty well
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Maybe even elite as a linebacker a middle linebacker to be specific. So you there's so many different
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You know layers to these type of situations when it comes
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To contracts honestly because when you have players like Brandon I you would who was an active contract
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Negotiations with his team this now changes the entire playing field
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Because now the price just went up
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It literally just went up and it's going to continue to go up
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Unless they try to come up with a deal right now
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Because whether we want to admit it or not Justin Jefferson is going to get paid
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He's probably going to crack that 30 that 30 million a year threshold as well as C.D. Land
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And so if you're the 49ers at some point you have to put a line in the same
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You just have to and I'm not you know
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I'm I'm not saying this because you know, I want Brandon are you to to get traded to my team
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I'm saying that because when you are a
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Super Bowl caliber team you cannot pay every person top dollar
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someone's gonna have to take less someone and
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They're in a situation right now where they realize hey
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This might be our final last chance of actually trying to win a championship
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because after this after this upcoming season they're gonna lose more players and
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Who was to say that they will be able to like really recover from that?
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especially when you have teams like the Rams who they don't have a whole lot of holes in their team and
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They could probably address a lot of their needs in this draft and probably post draft and
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You know, it's smooth sailing and then you also have to worry about
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The Seahawks who me personally I consider a dark horse that defense is young
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Their new head coach is very crafty when it comes to scheming up defenses
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If you don't know who I'm talking about I'm talking about Mike Mike McDonald
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He was the former defensive coordinator for the Rams
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He is going to make that defense crazy good
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I'm talking about close to the Legion of Boom as possible. They got the secondary
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They just have to figure out what they're gonna do with the middle linebackers
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defensive line that that's not really
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You know that big of a priority, you know, they can probably get somebody in the third or fourth round
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And it really won't matter to them. So
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I say all that to say this you have to be careful when you're in contract negotiations
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Because yesterday's price is not today's price as the great philosopher fat Joe says shout out to fat Joe
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yesterday's price is
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Not today's price and you're going to continue to see that moving forward into the summer
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Watch what I say
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Listen to your GM the GM knows I see the patterns
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Now that we have addressed all the back alerts fifth year options and whatnot
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Let's talk about Zach Wilson getting traded to the Broncos. That's right
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Former Jets quarterback Zach Wilson was traded to the Denver Broncos
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So let's go over the details first before we really analyze exactly why this move was made. Okay
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So the Broncos received of course Zach Wilson in a 2024 7th round pick while the Jets receive only a
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2024 6th round pick. Okay, when you look at it, it was just time for a new scenery with Zach Wilson
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Okay, Zach Wilson
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by all means
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Failed in
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New York he did now can we blame all of this on Zach Wilson?
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No, we cannot but can we say that Zach Wilson?
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You know could have done more with what he had. Yes. Yes for sure
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At this point in his career
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This is probably going to be your last chance to really compete for a
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starting caliber
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Quarterback job because right now the Broncos are in a situation where they don't have a quote-unquote, you know
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Bonafide starter at quarterback. They don't and if we're being real here
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If they do decide to draft a quarterback
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The only quarterback that might be available to them that you know
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Some people have giving him a first ground a first round grade for is bow nicks
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And even then who was to say that bow nicks can beat Zach Wilson and vice versa?
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Honestly speaking here. Um
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Not to mention I think him going to a offensive minded coach
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Might actually help him out more than staying with Robert Sala
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Now I know you I know there's probably some you know some fellow junkies out there that are probably thinking well
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Zach Wilson may not do it. He may not be able to succeed out there
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This is the same Sean Payton who took Drew Brees and literally made him into one of the greatest quarterbacks of
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our regeneration, okay
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Whether we want to admit it or not Sean Payton
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Has an image for the Broncos and he probably realized that Russell Wilson was not a part of that image
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And so, you know, they just decided to wipe their hands clean from that situation and just move on
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And so now they're in a position where
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He he can execute what he really wants for it for his quarterback, okay
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Ken Zach Wilson, you know be a good quarterback. Yes, I think he can still be a good quarterback
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But to say that he can be you know an elite quarterback who can you know when you out of a stadium or
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When you play off games or go up against, you know, some of the best quarterbacks and like Mahomes and Herbert and
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Burrow and Lamar and Jalen Hurts and whatnot. I don't know. I
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Truly do not believe that
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But you know, who knows we really don't know only time will tell
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You know rooting for his success and
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Let's see what happens now. Let's talk about
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The bombshell that happened yesterday afternoon. So Trey Hendrickson
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Has decided to officially request a trade from the Cincinnati Bengals
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Siding that he wants to get
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Paid again now for those who don't know you're since signed an extension not too long ago
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But he is still looking for more money now granted
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Trey Hendrickson so far in his career has had three double-digit sack seasons
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In 2020 2021 and in 2023 according to ESPN now for someone like Trey
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Trey Hendrickson who has played a very pivotal role on that Bengals defense
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Um, he does deserve to get paid. However, the problem is and history has shown
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The Bengals do not like to pay their players
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A lot. They just don't I don't know what it is. I don't know if that's their philosophy
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I don't know if that's something that the owner, you know
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You know stands on but you know
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When you have someone like Trey Hendrickson who plays a very pivotal role on that defense
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and basically, you know
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Since all of the major departures
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From from the defense including, you know, von bell dj reader larry oglen joby
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and company
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The defense has significantly regressed and so now you're in a situation where that defense
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Although they have, you know acquired geno stone through free agency
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All they have is Mike Hilton who's getting up in age and probably is going to want more money as well
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You have sam Hubbard and you have Trey and so
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You know, you're going to have to probably tacked on more money on Trey Hendrickson's deal
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You're just going to have to otherwise
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He's going to walk or better yet. He's going to go into retirement. Yes. That's right folks
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He has thrown out retirement if the bangles do not grant him a trade or pay him and so
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You know, if you're a bangles fan right now, things are looking a little bit shaky
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Simply because you have T Higgins who has asked for a trade and has yet to get paid hasn't even had
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Contract negotiations since last march. Okay, you have Trey Hendrickson who's looking for for more money
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And has basically thrown out that he might retire as well
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Meanwhile, you have a glass house in your quarterback and Joe burrow who you know, inked this crazy deal
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You know during the first uh one or two days of the new season for the nfl
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But you have Jamar Chase as well that that also is going to want to get paid as well
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So it's like there's only so much money that can go around now if you are a
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Steelers fan Ravens fan. You are just
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laughing at this moment simply because
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All the bangles fans that were saying all we're
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This is our division now. We're going to win it. We're going to beat you guys
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We're going to steamroll you guys you guys can't do nothing anymore. Really really
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Really really really
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Oh how the mighty have fallen
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We have finally allowed you guys to have your fun have your moment. Enjoy yourself celebrate
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You know make a crazy run
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But now it is time for you guys to hand over the keys
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Back to the real teams that are really going to be competing to win the division case and point
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Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens now
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Before we end so I feel like I definitely need
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To put on another GM hat since I already have my original GM hat on
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And let us do it just a quick brief prediction of how I think the draft is going to go
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personally do I feel like
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Um, the draft is going to be, you know, just this traditional everyone's just going to wait their turn
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No, there's going to be a lot of trade-ups. There's going to be a lot of movement
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There's going to be players being shipped to other teams
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Um, I just truly believe that there's going to be teams like the giants like the Vikings who you know
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That that need quarterbacks
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They're going to try to move up as as quick as possible and as high as possible
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And you're going to have teams like the chargers
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And maybe those other teams that are in the middle part of the draft that might want to trade down or possibly just trade out of the first round
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Okay, um
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Do I feel like
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Brandon iuik or quorlin sudden might get traded, you know during the draft not really
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um, especially for brandon iuik simply because
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Um reports have come out that the 49ers are going to be looking for, you know, high draft picks
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To facilitate a trade for brandon iuik not to mention
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A team is going to have to pay brandon iuik top dollar
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So I don't think a trade like that could possibly happen
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But I wouldn't be surprised if quorlin sudden gets traded either before the draft during the draft
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Or you know when the first round of the draft is officially over
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I wouldn't be surprised simply because that's the easier trade to facilitate
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You don't really have to give up a first round pick for him. You could probably give up maybe a second round pick
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And you know just tacked on a few more years on his deal and then that's you know, and that's it
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um
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Now do I feel like teams are going to be a little bit more aggressive?
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In the second day of the draft possibly if there is a prospect, you know that they've been eyeing on and they truly believe that
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They could try to trade up and get them then you know that could possibly happen but um
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Once the once the fourth round ends
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That's when teams are probably going to you know trade trade down trade out and just try to recoup more picks
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Uh for next year's draft um, and then there's probably going to be other teams who are just going to be drafting
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You know more for death and not for
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Um, you know starting caliber players, but I'm going to in this episode right now. Thank you guys once again
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For listening to another episode of the footballs junkies podcast if you like what you are listening, please please please please please please
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Um, I'm going to try to see if I can crank out one more episode
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Um, if not tonight after the draft probably tomorrow just to
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To react on the draft as a whole
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as well as talk about any trades and rumors that may be um
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servicing, you know after the first round, but uh, as always I love you guys
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Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode and thank you so much for supporting this podcast
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I love you guys can't wait till the draft tonight. I hope you guys are uh, gonna watch the draft like I will
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There will be no special stream tonight due for unforeseen
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Circumstances, but I will make it up to you guys. Trust me your gm will make it up to you guys
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I love you guys peace