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Opposition Leader Lia Finochiarro says the CLP will be going to the Federal election with enough party members · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Ok.
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  Speaker 2: Now, joining me on the show and in the studio
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  Speaker 2: right now is the opposition leader, Leah Fanocchiaro.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning to your leading.
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  Speaker 1: Morning, Katie, and to your listeners.
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  Speaker 2: Now Leah, firstly, we yesterday learned of the loss of
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  Speaker 2: well known and much loved Territory boy Chris Willow Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: He was one of the stars of Outback Wrangler, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's say, the epitome of everything we love
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  Speaker 2: about the Northern Territory. But he was also a great bloke,
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  Speaker 2: a loving son, husband and dad and Leah, I know
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  Speaker 2: that Willow was a good friend of yours and your families.
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  Speaker 3: How is he going to be remembered?
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  Speaker 4: Look that it's a tragic loss to the territory, but
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  Speaker 4: of course to Danny and the kids, and Robin and
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  Speaker 4: Sharon and the whole family. And I think just seeing
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  Speaker 4: how far Chris's impact has touched people and the pouring
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  Speaker 4: of support shows the incredible person that he was and
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  Speaker 4: always will be remembered for. And lots of people know
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  Speaker 4: him as that rough and tumble guy, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: Chris is certainly a lot of fun, but he was
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  Speaker 4: a lot more than that, and we certainly knew him
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  Speaker 4: as someone who's incredibly proud of their family, an amazing father.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if you see Crest with kids, it's just
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  Speaker 4: melts your heart, and just such a loyal friend, a
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  Speaker 4: good person and someone who really believed in the territory.
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  Speaker 4: We've really lost one of the territories great champions. And
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  Speaker 4: you know the charities he was involved with, the organizations
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  Speaker 4: he used to sponsor. You know, we we've lost an
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  Speaker 4: absolute territory legend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a good bloke. Look, I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: him well, certainly, not like you did. I know that
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  Speaker 2: he was always at oh it's a blokes thing luncheons
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  Speaker 2: every year. And I think that that's a really good
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  Speaker 2: point that you've made a real supporter of everything territory,
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  Speaker 2: which is a wonderful thing that we want in any Territori.
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  Speaker 2: And really, look, we will continue along. There is a
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  Speaker 2: lot to cover off on this morning, and I know
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  Speaker 2: that over the last couple of weeks we've spoken at
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  Speaker 2: links about the masks and also those check ins. Still
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  Speaker 2: no word from the Northern Territory government on what day
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  Speaker 2: this mask mandate's going to live.
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  Speaker 3: Now take a listen.
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  Speaker 2: If you missed it earlier in the week, to what
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  Speaker 2: the Chief Minister, Michael Gunner had said to us about
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  Speaker 2: this mask timeline.
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  Speaker 5: They have a day, but it's definitely sooner rather than later,
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  Speaker 5: like very soon. The caseload is trending down. You can
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  Speaker 5: see the hospitalization rates trending down, so that the troops
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  Speaker 5: to be confident that we're not going to sadly spugg in. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: we believe they help contribute to the downward trend. And
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  Speaker 5: if we were to pull the mass mandate off, for example,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we could put it back on a
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  Speaker 5: couple of days time. I think I don't think the
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  Speaker 5: public will be won't do that. So we've got to
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  Speaker 5: be very careful. It's done once and it's done right.
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  Speaker 3: So we're talking days or weeks.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's more days than weeks.
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  Speaker 3: But maybe by this time next week.
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  Speaker 5: We guarantee is this one yeah yeah, yeah yeah. You
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  Speaker 5: say it may be staged, and it might be that
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  Speaker 5: you do the check in app retreats to the vax
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  Speaker 5: pass and then the mass mandate comes off, or the
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  Speaker 5: mass mandate comes off on the same day that you
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  Speaker 5: retreat the checking app to the vas pass site.
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  Speaker 3: Leah.
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  Speaker 2: The opposition say the government needs to immediately outline the
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  Speaker 2: plan to lift the territory wide mask mandate and scrap
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  Speaker 2: the check in app.
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  Speaker 3: Why does this need to happen sooner rather.
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  Speaker 4: Than And like it's really unacceptable for the Chief Minister
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  Speaker 4: to pop his head up finally after a month of
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  Speaker 4: extreme levels of COVID in our community and sort of
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  Speaker 4: throw out there that everyone should be grateful that sometime
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  Speaker 4: this week he's going to finally lift the mask mandate
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  Speaker 4: like he's unveiling a new playground at a school. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this is it's beyond a joke. We've had all around
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  Speaker 4: the country plans for different things and time frames for
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  Speaker 4: different things relating to COVID, and even here the government
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  Speaker 4: had its own roadmap to recovery where there were clear dates,
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  Speaker 4: clear processes and people could understand the whole picture. Now
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  Speaker 4: we know that, particularly in the hospitality industry, they are
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  Speaker 4: being profoundly affected by the mass mandate by having to
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  Speaker 4: validate people's vaccination status and all of these other measures.
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  Speaker 4: But you know it's impacting people broadly. We need the
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  Speaker 4: government to put forward their plans so that territories have
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  Speaker 4: transparency around what that looks like. And of course people
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  Speaker 4: always make their own decisions about what they do to
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  Speaker 4: protect themselves. But it's not okay for the government to
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  Speaker 4: just walk around and sort of toubt that restrictions will
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  Speaker 4: be listed soon. And we should all give them a
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  Speaker 4: big clap for doing that.
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  Speaker 2: So, Leah, as far as you're concerned, do they really
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  Speaker 2: need to get out there, If not today, you know,
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  Speaker 2: well today or tomorrow and outline that plan and when
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  Speaker 2: exactly everything is going to come into place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to know what the picture is going forward.
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  Speaker 4: Tell us a time frame on the mask, tell us
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  Speaker 4: a time frame on VAX status, on the app, whatever
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  Speaker 4: else it might be. All of the restrictions need to
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  Speaker 4: be reviewed and looked at, all of them, and then
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  Speaker 4: a clear time frame needs to be put in place.
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  Speaker 4: There needs to be transparency, and there just hasn't been.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a big reason why we're bringing our
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  Speaker 4: legislation in and introducing that in March, because we have
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  Speaker 4: not had a public report to the people for the
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  Speaker 4: whole pandemic, despite the legislation requiring one. And so our
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  Speaker 4: bill should be supported by the Gunner government if they've
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  Speaker 4: got nothing to hide, pass it and let's get some
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  Speaker 4: transparency around vision making out to territory.
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  Speaker 2: What date does Parliament sit in March, and what's the
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  Speaker 2: plan with this bill? I understand it's a couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks away still, but it's not too far off. And
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  Speaker 2: then you're going to be introducing this bill. You really
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  Speaker 2: want to see some reporting from the government when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to these COVID decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Without question.
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  Speaker 4: So parliament's at the end of March, and what our
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  Speaker 4: legislation does is it's just it's actually a very small
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  Speaker 4: practical change. The intention is already there. What happens is
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  Speaker 4: with the emergency period. At the end of an emergency period,
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  Speaker 4: the Chow is supposed to report to Parliament within three months.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Of course this government has just rolled.
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  Speaker 4: The emergency period on for two years, understandably, but there's
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  Speaker 4: no end in sight to that. Of course, because we
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  Speaker 4: don't have a plan now. We believe the legislation intended
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  Speaker 4: for there to be regular reporting. There hasn't been, and
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  Speaker 4: so rather than having the Chow report three months after
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  Speaker 4: the end of the period, we want it to be
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  Speaker 4: every three months.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know if they do in other states? Is
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  Speaker 2: there that regular reporting to parliament in other states?
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  Speaker 3: Do we know?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that. But our legislation is certainly
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  Speaker 4: set up to have it. It never envisaged that we
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  Speaker 4: would have rolling two year emergency periods. How it was
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  Speaker 4: originally drafted was five days, so you can see within
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  Speaker 4: a very short period of time that regular reporting would
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  Speaker 4: have occurred. So we believe that was the intention. We
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  Speaker 4: believe that's required to restore confidence. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: people are really starting to have serious doubts over the
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  Speaker 4: government's leadership on this issue. So let's not play politics
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  Speaker 4: with COVID. Let's provide the health advice. Of course, we
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  Speaker 4: have barely see the chose anymore, even though there's six
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  Speaker 4: of them. We barely see the government anymore. So let's
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  Speaker 4: have a plan. It's not too much to ask for
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  Speaker 4: a plan. In fact, it should be the bear basic
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  Speaker 4: that government are providing at this time, and let's breee
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  Speaker 4: some transparency and scrutiny into the decision making now.
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  Speaker 2: Leah, obviously another issue that continues to bubble along at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, I think you'd have to say, or from
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  Speaker 2: an observers perspective, it's certainly been an interesting time for
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  Speaker 2: the COLP over the weekend, with the President standing down
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  Speaker 2: then being replaced of course by Fiona Darcy. It is
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  Speaker 2: understood that the parties also been given two months to
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  Speaker 2: prove that it's got fifteen hundred members or it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be deregistered. Leah, did that letter get received on Monday.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure if the party's confirmed a letter or not.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly it's been widely reported, so I suppose it has.
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  Speaker 4: But ultimately, look Katie, to be very honest, this is
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  Speaker 4: not something I'm concerned about at all. I want people
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  Speaker 4: to be really clear. This does not affect the CLP
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  Speaker 4: as a political party, as a political force in the
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  Speaker 4: Northern territory. What it means is that there are federal
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  Speaker 4: requirements and there are territory requirements, and they're different. Now,
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  Speaker 4: if you have a member of Federal Parliament, then any
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  Speaker 4: membership numbers are irrelevant.
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  Speaker 1: It's not part of the deal.
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  Speaker 4: But obviously because Sam McMahon has resigned, it then invokes
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  Speaker 4: a different threshold for how you maintain your federal status
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  Speaker 4: and ours is covered by the fact we have associate
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  Speaker 4: membership with the National Party. And of course once Just
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  Speaker 4: Enterprise is elected as our senator, who will be a
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  Speaker 4: fantastic advocate for the territory, it all becomes null and void.
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  Speaker 4: So I've got no concerns Katie about any of this.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, it's you know, featured a lot in the
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  Speaker 4: news over the last two or three weeks, but their
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  Speaker 4: corps here to stay.
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  Speaker 3: Is the party in a state of disarray?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm so excited to be working with Fiona Darcy,
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  Speaker 4: our new president who is elected over the weekend. She
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  Speaker 4: is a very passionate territory and brings a wealth of knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: It's nice to have.
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  Speaker 4: A girl team, I suppose you can say at the
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  Speaker 4: top with Fiona and I, but also with all of
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  Speaker 4: our fantastic candidates and of course my parliamentary team and
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  Speaker 4: our membership. You know, we've got a lot to offer
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  Speaker 4: the territory as a party, and of course holding the
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  Speaker 4: Gunner government to account being part of a Morrison led
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  Speaker 4: coalition government on the other side of this federal election,
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  Speaker 4: and making sure we fight for what's important to territory
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  Speaker 4: and Leah.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of that membership, there has been a lot of
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  Speaker 2: speculation that the COLP does not have fifteen hundred members.
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  Speaker 3: Do you look.
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  Speaker 4: I would absolutely have no idea, but I guess my
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  Speaker 4: point is it's irrelevant whether we have fifteen hundred or not.
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  Speaker 4: The CLP is okay, we comply with those federal requirements
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  Speaker 4: and we are going to run Tina McFarlane, Damien Ryan
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  Speaker 4: just Enterprise under the CLP banner. We're hopefully going to
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  Speaker 4: win those seats so we can fight for the territory
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  Speaker 4: down in camera and be part of a Morrison led government.
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  Speaker 2: Is it disappointing though, if you don't have fifteen hundred members?
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  Speaker 1: No, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there are different requirements, so I
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  Speaker 4: think in the territory are requirement. It might be five hundred,
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  Speaker 4: might be three hundred, something like that.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just.
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  Speaker 4: Different thresholds for the AEC to ensure various levels of compliance.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't in and of itself, it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean anything. Of course, we've got hundreds of members whatever,
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  Speaker 4: that final number mon't be plenty more people who support
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  Speaker 4: us and plenty more people who vote for us.
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  Speaker 2: Leah, I mean, are you in a situation though I
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  Speaker 2: know that you like obviously the parliamentary side of things
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  Speaker 2: is very different to the actual party side of things.
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  Speaker 3: I think that we all sort of get that.
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  Speaker 2: But are you in a situation here where you're potentially
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  Speaker 2: going to have to loan a senator from another state
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  Speaker 2: to be able to run those candidates at the federal
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  Speaker 2: election as COLPA candidates.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think that's going to happen at all.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, you know, there are a million scenarios you
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  Speaker 4: can play out and fixed with a million more solutions,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not.
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  Speaker 1: One of them.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, we we're just looking forward to the
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  Speaker 4: task at hand. Of course, being out on the ground
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  Speaker 4: listening to the community. People are really concerned about the
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  Speaker 4: state of our economy, people are really concerned about crime.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there are a lot of things going on
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  Speaker 4: that we need to be focused on, and that's what
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  Speaker 4: we're dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: So just to make this really clear, because I think
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  Speaker 2: the reality here is this, it could wind up being
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  Speaker 2: a moosh issue. As you've sort of pointed out, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the election's going to be called. Those candidates are, by
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  Speaker 2: the sounds of things, going to run as CELPAK candidates,
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  Speaker 2: as that investigation by the AEC isn't going to be
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  Speaker 2: complete before the federal election anyway, and then presumably you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have a senator in place. Is that how
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  Speaker 2: you see things playing out right now?
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  Speaker 4: I see that we can play with all federal requirements
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  Speaker 4: because of our associate membership with the Nationals. Then there's
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  Speaker 4: the time frame issue, which you know, I've got no
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  Speaker 4: details on but sounds like it wouldn't be possible anyway.
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  Speaker 4: And then of course there's the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 4: we'll see just to come into parliament and all of
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  Speaker 4: this will be an absolute moot point. So a lot
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  Speaker 4: of hype and speculation. It's an interesting thing to talk
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  Speaker 4: about for no political you know, people who enjoy politics.
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  Speaker 4: But it's certainly not anything I'm losing sleep very I reckon.
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  Speaker 2: It's more a situation where you know, every territorium, whether
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  Speaker 2: you vote Labor, whether you vote for the CLP, whether
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  Speaker 2: you vote independent, what they want to see is a
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  Speaker 2: strong government, a strong opposition, strong independence. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that probably what people are concerned about at the moment
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  Speaker 2: is you know, whether the CLP is in disarray or not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and that's a fair question. I can confirm
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  Speaker 1: we are not. We are a very strong life force.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, the parliamentary team kicking goals against a bad
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  Speaker 4: gun of government. We've got a party membership out there
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  Speaker 4: working ferociously to support our federal candidates. You know, we're
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  Speaker 4: two months out from a federal election. This is literally
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  Speaker 4: going to change the lives of future generations. How people
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  Speaker 4: vote in this election. It's a really, really important one,
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  Speaker 4: and I encourage everyone to get more involved. If you
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  Speaker 4: are conservative leaning and you want to help us boost
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  Speaker 4: those numbers, we will take your membership.
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  Speaker 3: You might need to pay for some advertising for that
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  Speaker 3: ad later. Hey, before I let you go.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that has really got people very
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  Speaker 2: concerned overnight is this vision of outside the Fanny bay
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  Speaker 2: IgA Nel shared yesterday. It happened on Monday afternoon. Leah,
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  Speaker 2: have you seen that vision outside the Fanny bay IgA
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  Speaker 2: And what.
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  Speaker 3: Was your reaction?
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 4: I have seen it, Katie, and I just it was
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  Speaker 4: absolutely horrific to see the violence being used, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with the A frame and the giant and I mean
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  Speaker 4: just astonishing stuff. But you know, this is not an
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  Speaker 4: isolated incident. Unfortunately, We're hearing about this all over the territory.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, I don't even need to mention Allie Springs.
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  Speaker 4: It speaks for itself that they are crying out for support.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, when you talk.
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  Speaker 4: To CBD retailers and particular businesses in them all, and
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  Speaker 4: I've been having a lot of engagement with some particular
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  Speaker 4: businesses there. They are experiencing very very high levels of
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  Speaker 4: antisocial behavior and criminal behavior, and it's turning customers away,
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  Speaker 4: it's making them question whether they can keep their doors open.
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  Speaker 1: It's having a profound impact.
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  Speaker 4: And still government and pretending like this isn't this isn't
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  Speaker 4: an issue.
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  Speaker 3: What needs to happen here?
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  Speaker 2: Because we've caught up with the Northern Territory Police and
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  Speaker 2: spoken about the fact that right now in the Northern
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  Speaker 2: Territory there's around two and a half thousand people sort
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  Speaker 2: of in from communities on the streets, you know, living
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  Speaker 2: sort of you know, living in the Northern living in Darwin,
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  Speaker 2: rather than being out in the communities where they.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe come from.
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  Speaker 2: Ordinarily we'd have about seven hundred, is what the police
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  Speaker 2: had told me a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think needs to.
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  Speaker 2: Happen here to try and you know, get things under control.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's you know, part of it will
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  Speaker 4: be a reflection on failed alcohol policy. You know, we
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  Speaker 4: haven't had a review into the BDR. The minimum flaw
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  Speaker 4: price is clearly ineffective and so there's a there's a
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  Speaker 4: major issue there. Biosecurity zones are obviously in place, but
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  Speaker 4: it seems that that's failing, probably through lack of enforcement,
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  Speaker 4: which is no reflection on police. They're obviously stretched to
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  Speaker 4: the limits. So there's police resourcing issues. Of course, COVID
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  Speaker 4: having its role still in distracting the police from doing
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  Speaker 4: their job. You know, there's been a lot of talk
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  Speaker 4: about different you know, places where people can live and
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  Speaker 4: stay and visit a accommodation in the territory, and nothing
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  Speaker 4: seems to have ever happened with that. So there's a
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  Speaker 4: whole multitude of issues that you know, compound on this issue.
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  Speaker 4: But in the meantime, people are being bashed, beaten and
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  Speaker 4: robbed on our streets and the government it's just not
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  Speaker 4: even responding to it as an issue. They can't even
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  Speaker 4: bring themselves to acknowledge that crime is a catastrophic level.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We used to catch up very often with Lariquilla Nation
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  Speaker 2: and they used to have a really successful return to
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  Speaker 2: country program.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, do you know if that's still operating
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  Speaker 3: at the moment.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I imagine it still is. Of course, over the
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  Speaker 4: wet season, it's really difficult because plenty of roads are
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  Speaker 4: just completely impassable, so we certainly wouldn't be supporting any
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  Speaker 4: unsafe practices there. But you know, there's big issues in
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  Speaker 4: the territory and we just aren't hearing from government on them.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: And you can't just pretend something's not happening and it
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: will go away. It's just getting worse and it's reflected
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: in our crime statistics.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, domestic violence is through the roof.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: We saw the federal minister up this week giving ten
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: million dollars to frontline services and you know that's fantastic
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: for the federal government to get involved, but it's not
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: their job. It's actually the territory government's job. And where
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: are they on this issue?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Well Leaf and Okio, the opposition leader, we are going
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: to have to leave it there.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time this morning.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Katy. Take care