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The Late Debate | 21 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome the La Place.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and to welcome to the show. I'm Dankidi Georgio.
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  Speaker 3: What a stellar lineup tonight, James Morrow, Joe, Hilda Brad.
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  Speaker 2: I feel so lucky.
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  Speaker 4: In the middle, handsome bloke.
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  Speaker 2: I would you feel like you're on the outside of
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  Speaker 2: set tonight?
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  Speaker 1: I feelings but somehow different.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Joe and I instead.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, James is in my usual seats. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Does this mean I've moved from left to right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's a good point. Actually, no, Wow, this is
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  Speaker 2: a big moment.
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  Speaker 3: This is a very big moment for you, actually, Joe,
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  Speaker 3: because we'll find out throughout the show.
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  Speaker 4: I get only tempted to vote for one nation.
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  Speaker 2: Oh jee, all right, here we go speaking yes, speaking
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  Speaker 2: of one nation. We're going to get there coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Tacky or Not at Townsville nightclubs under fire for hosting
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  Speaker 3: an X rated event with explicit content on Ansac Day?
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  Speaker 2: Are we missing the point of the day or not?
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  Speaker 3: The mystery of Noah's Ark could strange rock transformations in
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  Speaker 3: Turkey proved that the Ark did indeed exist, and a
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  Speaker 3: look at tomorrow's papers, including the Gaming Giants allowing isis
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  Speaker 3: simulations on their platforms exposing children to terrorism content. But
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  Speaker 3: first tonight, critics of One Nation told us this week
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  Speaker 3: the party had peaked in its popularity. But according to
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  Speaker 3: the latest sky News Ugov poll, for the first time,
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  Speaker 3: Labor and One Nation's primary.
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  Speaker 2: Vote is tied. Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 3: Labor is sitting at twenty seven percent, the lowest primary
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  Speaker 3: vote recorded.
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  Speaker 2: For the party. One Nation up two percent.
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  Speaker 3: Also now at twenty seven the coalition unchanged on twenty
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  Speaker 3: In terms of two party preferred Labour is sitting at
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  Speaker 3: fifty two percent. That's down three One Nation up forty
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  Speaker 3: eight percent. And if you compare that to Labor and
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  Speaker 3: the Coalition, Labor is sitting at fifty three percent. The
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  Speaker 3: coalition's gone up two percent to forty seven. And of course,
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  Speaker 3: as the fuel crisis bites and Labour seems adamant to
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  Speaker 3: lead us down this renewables only magic carpet ride, well,
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  Speaker 3: guess what fifty seven percent support increasing gas and oil
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  Speaker 3: exploration and production domestically. G don't tell Chris Bowen, whatever
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  Speaker 3: you do, don't show him this poll. In terms of
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  Speaker 3: energy reserves, When asked, would you support the government spending
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  Speaker 3: twenty billion dollars to increase fuel supplies. Twenty seven percent
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  Speaker 3: strongly supported, thirty six percent support, only eight percent oppose,
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  Speaker 3: five percent strongly opposed, while twenty four percent said they
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So what does all that mean?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it means that's sixty three percent support investment in
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  Speaker 3: fuel reserves and a majority support a drill, baby, drill policy,
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  Speaker 3: you know, drilling for fossil fuels, that big bad resource
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  Speaker 3: that labor is trying to rid us of, and that
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  Speaker 3: same resource that the Prime Minister went on a begging
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  Speaker 3: tour of Asia four last week. Ge James, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: who would have thought that our natural resources, which we
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  Speaker 3: have plenty of we're sitting on, would prove so popular.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know, but you know, Danika, it shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: any surprise at all. And I think we had the
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  Speaker 1: big scare of COVID. We didn't take the lessons from COVID,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess because everybody's locked in their house tending
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  Speaker 1: their sour dough starters or whatever, they couldn't. You know.
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  Speaker 1: The whole idea of a road trip was pretty fast full,
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  Speaker 1: so fuel security wasn't a big issue. Now though we
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  Speaker 1: really realize how desperate we are as a country. You know,
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  Speaker 1: people are are now talking about how we spent the
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  Speaker 1: fifty or sixty years after World War Two developing energy
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  Speaker 1: and mineral independence with everything that we have under the
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  Speaker 1: earth here, and then we've spent the last twenty or
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  Speaker 1: thirty years completely throwing it away. So this whole scene
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  Speaker 1: of you know, Anthony alber Esi going around hand to Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Japan,
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  Speaker 1: Oh can we have some fertilizer please? Oh, can we
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  Speaker 1: have some fuel please? It is demeaning. It's not necessary,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's coming through in the polls here
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  Speaker 1: and it shows, I think a real weakness that labor
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  Speaker 1: particularly has. I think Crispode is absolutely the worst person
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  Speaker 1: to have out there fronting this. And I think ALBINIZI
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  Speaker 1: must cringe every time he gets up in front of
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  Speaker 1: the microphone and brags about how, hey, it's another Saturday
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  Speaker 1: and here I am with a fuel report for you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is not what we need to be doing.
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  Speaker 1: Singapore has no oil under its soil, and yet we
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  Speaker 1: have to go do Singapore to get oil. It's insede.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an interesting one, I think, I mean really,
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  Speaker 4: I think the story is and This is something that
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  Speaker 4: people have been warning governments of both stripes about for years,
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  Speaker 4: if not decades. We have known that Australia did not
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  Speaker 4: even have enough fuel reserves, the reserves that it's meant
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  Speaker 4: to have under its treaty obligations with the International Atomic
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  Speaker 4: Energy Agency. It wasn't even meeting that like I eat
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  Speaker 4: the stuff you meant to have out the back in
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  Speaker 4: the tank, let alone a capacity to actually drill and
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  Speaker 4: refine on shore. And I think this comes down to
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  Speaker 4: a lot of you know, the fall of the Berlin Wall,
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  Speaker 4: the end of the Cold War, what Francis Fukuyama are
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  Speaker 4: called the end of history. Even though he now gets
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  Speaker 4: agree when people reminded that where we thought, okay, this
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  Speaker 4: is just the new world order. We're entering a new
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  Speaker 4: globalized world that we'll be able to trade our way
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  Speaker 4: for whatever we want. We don't need to have tariffs,
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  Speaker 4: we don't need to have economic sovereignty. We'll just be
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  Speaker 4: able to get whatever we want. And indeed, some of
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  Speaker 4: the stuff that counts as our fuel reserves is stuff
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  Speaker 4: that is actually being held by America, but we're meant to,
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  Speaker 4: in theory, be able to tap into it anytime we
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  Speaker 4: want and what COVID should have taught us is not
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  Speaker 4: that we don't need fuel enough, but the fact that
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  Speaker 4: if there is an international crisis, those supply chains you
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  Speaker 4: take for granted can disappear very very quickly and the
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  Speaker 4: shutters go up very very quickly. But the other thing
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  Speaker 4: was just to go back to the pole because it
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  Speaker 4: is a really interesting result. We had two other poles
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  Speaker 4: show in fact, one nation's vote was waning. This shows
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  Speaker 4: that it's strengthening. But again, if you look at where
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  Speaker 4: that vote is coming from, it is working class people.
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  Speaker 4: And this is something that I've been screaming from the
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  Speaker 4: rooftops that in Labor have picked up on again years ago,
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  Speaker 4: that people are saying, screw this. You know this party
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  Speaker 4: isn't delivering for me anymore and looking around for who will.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen it happen at the South Australian election, and
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  Speaker 4: if you dig down into these numbers, more working class people,
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  Speaker 4: and again this is not something that should come as
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  Speaker 4: a surprise to anybody. More working class people now say
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  Speaker 4: they're going to vote for one nation, Yeah, than the
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  Speaker 4: Labor Party, than the party that actually bears their names.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Labor has a band, Labor has a band in
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  Speaker 3: the working class, and that is a problem. And the
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  Speaker 3: other thing I think I feel like that, well, I
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  Speaker 3: think so, and I think that the reason why the
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  Speaker 3: working class are now relating to one nation is because
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  Speaker 3: Pauline Hansen is a no nonsense leader. She's come out
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  Speaker 3: and she's strong. She's to the point, she tells it
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  Speaker 3: like it is. She goes no, immigration is a problem.
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  Speaker 3: We need to bring people in who respect our values,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of them are men.
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  Speaker 2: Because it also shows that a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Men, men want to work, men want to find a job,
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  Speaker 3: men want to be able to provide for their families.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, James, we saw this over in the
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  Speaker 3: US when Donald Trump was rising in the polls. It
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  Speaker 3: was a lot of men were flocking to him because
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  Speaker 3: he's going, we're going to be America first, We're going
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  Speaker 3: to put our values first.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think the thing with Trump and
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  Speaker 1: the phenomenon with Trump and the gender divide, and we
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  Speaker 1: see this here as well, is not so much you know,
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  Speaker 1: that men flock to Trump, it's that women have moved
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  Speaker 1: very very far to the left. Not all women, but
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  Speaker 1: that you know, the tendency particul the last fifte years
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  Speaker 1: have been for women to shift very hard to the left. Well,
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  Speaker 1: men of stayed particularly, you know, fairly consistent around a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these things, but there's some variation around there.
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  Speaker 1: Or the question of the working class. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: what we saw, I think is that labor became the
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  Speaker 1: party of the professional classes. You know, so all your
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  Speaker 1: lawyers they're all labor. You know, all of your people
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  Speaker 1: at all the big consulting fir us, they're all lawyers,
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  Speaker 1: they're all labor. Part of that's because you know, they
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of business with the federal government. And
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  Speaker 1: so you know, there's this great sort of you know
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  Speaker 1: thing that's happening now where you have a problem. And
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  Speaker 1: this is where I think actually the real problem for
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  Speaker 1: Australia is it is that we now have so you've
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  Speaker 1: got this rump of working class people. The working class
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  Speaker 1: has been decimated in this country. And no I'm not
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  Speaker 1: using the word technically correctly. People can write about that
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  Speaker 1: later on, but we have a problem now where you
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  Speaker 1: have a majority of people who are involved, one way
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  Speaker 1: or another in work that is dependent on the government,
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  Speaker 1: either directly or indirectly. And the problem now is is
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  Speaker 1: that structural reform becomes impossible in this democratic environment because
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  Speaker 1: everybody's got a stake in more money coming out of Canberra.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think you're wrong. I think it's the
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  Speaker 4: problem is that labor has become I don't know about
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  Speaker 4: the sort of you know, the consultants and the sort
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  Speaker 4: of private sector professionals, but certainly tertiary educated people, government bureaucrats,
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  Speaker 4: public servants themselves, and it's become sort of captive to
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  Speaker 4: the cultural elits, and instead of being forced by its
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  Speaker 4: base to deliver on economic returns for working class people
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  Speaker 4: and basically giving people, you know, better jobs, better pay,
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  Speaker 4: more secure housing, it has been captured or distracted by
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  Speaker 4: a new left. And it's not necessarily traditional labor. These
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  Speaker 4: are numpties that vote Greens and Teals and maybe preference labor,
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  Speaker 4: but a new left that is actually quite well off,
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  Speaker 4: quite afflu it is more interested in virtue signaling, having
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  Speaker 4: the right values, espousing those values, emoting about how much
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  Speaker 4: they care about climate change or indigenous issues or you know,
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  Speaker 4: trans inclusiveness or whatever. But all these sort of social
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  Speaker 4: and cultural trends that the Left has become obsessed by,
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  Speaker 4: instead of actually just delivering for poor people, which is
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  Speaker 4: what you're meant to do. Wow, that's all good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I think you got your point quite Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed he did. Hey, but if we had another
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  Speaker 1: fascinating story here out of Victoria here which is about
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  Speaker 1: liberal leader Jess Wilson. And you know there was a
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  Speaker 1: whole controversy around Jess Wilson her coming in the moderate candidate. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's talking very tough right now on people who vandalize
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  Speaker 1: war memorials. There's been a spate of horrific and I
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  Speaker 1: just think it's you know, who would do this? Who
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  Speaker 1: would do this? Go and damage and graffiti an Anzac memorial?
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  Speaker 1: It's just lower than low. Now she's proposing that those
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  Speaker 1: who deface or destroy such memorials could face up to
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  Speaker 1: ten years jail.
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  Speaker 4: But someone and Joe this isting I am very victory.
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  Speaker 1: Skeptical about this because I'll tell you what you know. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a lovely idea to punish people for
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  Speaker 1: doing this sort of thing. It does start to get
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  Speaker 1: to some of your let'slay magistate sort of areas. But
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  Speaker 1: it is also who goes to jail for ten years?
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  Speaker 1: In Victoria? Nobody goes to jail, And also who are
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  Speaker 1: the magistrates. Who are the magistrates hand out you know,
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  Speaker 1: who hand out bail for everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that point. I think it is
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  Speaker 3: in but on the justice system here. It will only
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  Speaker 3: work if the justice system complies with it. But I
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  Speaker 3: actually think this is a fantastic proposal. I mean, there
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  Speaker 3: have been several memorials that have been defaced in Victoria
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  Speaker 3: and yet nobody has been charged over I think it
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  Speaker 3: was the past six years.
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  Speaker 2: Now these are the memorials.
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  Speaker 3: It actually disrespects our values as Australians. It disrespects who
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  Speaker 3: we are as a nation when these absolute lunatics go
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  Speaker 3: and do this is what we're seeing on our screen here.
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  Speaker 3: And even if they are arrested in charged right now,
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  Speaker 3: all they get really is a slap on the wrist.
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  Speaker 3: They might get a three thousand dollar fine, see you later.
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  Speaker 3: Off you go, no questions asked. But these memorials mean
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  Speaker 3: something to us, so you know, they really do. They
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  Speaker 3: represent who fought for us and who continue to do so.
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  Speaker 2: They're very sacred. So my view, if you.
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  Speaker 3: Want to go and do this bug off, you should
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  Speaker 3: face the consequences and that should be the full force
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  Speaker 3: of the law. And if it's ten years in jail,
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  Speaker 3: so be it. But it does it is incumbent on
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  Speaker 3: these woke magisprats who have formed let's be honest, we've
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  Speaker 3: seen it with the youth crime crisis again, slap on.
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  Speaker 3: The recycle of crime continues. But I think wonderful proposal personally.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, except no one's been caught, so how can they
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  Speaker 4: be sentenced? Yeah, I think that's I think that's the problem,
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  Speaker 4: isn't it that these people, you know, they don't have
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  Speaker 4: the security at these sites. I mean, we know when
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  Speaker 4: someone was defacing the Israeli flag in camera, they put
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  Speaker 4: CCTV footage on it and surprise, surprise, they caught the person.
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  Speaker 4: So I think we either need to have and yes,
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  Speaker 4: it will come with a degree of costs, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: there should be some form of CCTV or surveillance technology
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  Speaker 4: around these things, because part of the problem is these
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  Speaker 4: people haven't even gotten before magistrates. And again you're right,
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  Speaker 4: when they get to the magistrates, unless there is actually
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  Speaker 4: an enshrined mandatory sentence that a magistrate would then have
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  Speaker 4: to provide exceptional circumstances not to apply. But there's no
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  Speaker 4: point of saying, up to I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't understand where there are exceptional circumstances. And you see
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  Speaker 1: this over and over again with these magistrates. See it
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  Speaker 1: here in New South Wales, you see it in Victoria. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I was having a bad day. But as to your point, Joe, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: exactly right. I don't understand why they don't already have
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  Speaker 1: CCTV or the CCTV is cheap. Anybody who has ever
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  Speaker 1: driven in Victoria in the last decade knows that CCTV
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  Speaker 1: cameras are pretty much everywhere. Three weeks later you get
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  Speaker 1: a letter in the mail saying you did fifty three
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  Speaker 1: and a fifty and you know, please hand over some
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  Speaker 1: more money to pay into just sinto Alan's big build
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. But again, look, I think it's a great policy.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Deanika, but I am a bit
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  Speaker 1: cynical that this is our moderate liberal candidate here suddenly
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  Speaker 1: trying to look all very tough. Yeah, this sort of.
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  Speaker 3: Crime, whether or not it makes a difference, Whether or
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  Speaker 3: not it makes a difference, it can. I also just
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  Speaker 3: point out what a blight on society that we have
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  Speaker 3: to have so many of these cameras around right now,
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  Speaker 3: and here we are talking about the prospect of these
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  Speaker 3: war memorials having to.
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  Speaker 2: Have security cameras.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, can you imagine this being spoken about twenty
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  Speaker 3: years ago? No, because people actually respected these memorials. Now
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  Speaker 3: they left this progressive left. But just it's like they
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  Speaker 3: want to try and raise our history.
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  Speaker 1: It's exactly what they want to do. That is exactly
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  Speaker 1: what they want to do. All of this is about.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I'll bet you find the people. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know because, as Joe says, they haven't been caught.
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  Speaker 1: But I bet you find these people. I will bet
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  Speaker 1: you that the culprits of these are more likely than
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  Speaker 1: not from well off, upper middle class households who have
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: had all the advantages of education and all of that
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  Speaker 1: sort of thing, and that they have been taught from
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  Speaker 1: day dart in these schools to hate this country and
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  Speaker 1: its heritage. Yes, yeap.
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  Speaker 4: Or indeed I just go to Union become you know,
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  Speaker 4: student socialists like everyone else does. Fortunately I grew out
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  Speaker 4: of it, Thank goodness for that. There is a cure.
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  Speaker 4: It's called the real world. Anyway. Speaking of our diggers
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: and our veterans, and indeed Anzac Day coming up bar
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: in Queensland Townsville, they pride the Pearl of the North
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  Speaker 4: is getting a bit of hate online after advertising a
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  Speaker 4: special late n night good time, shall we say on Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: April the twenty fifth. This is the Flinders Nightclub which
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  Speaker 4: is having a big sort of you know, I know,
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  Speaker 4: but what event t's and c's but more sort of
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  Speaker 4: T and A I think is the official expression. But
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  Speaker 4: it's a slightly saucy event. I believe there will be
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  Speaker 4: an element of a flesh of various shapes and sizes
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  Speaker 4: on display. And of course this has prompted outrage among
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  Speaker 4: many of the people who have been made aware of
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  Speaker 4: the promotion of this event. One person posted on social
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  Speaker 4: media absolutely disgusted in the decision of Flinder's HQ and
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  Speaker 4: Zac Day is not the day to be hosting this event.
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  Speaker 4: Where is the effing respect for the day and veterans,
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  Speaker 4: to which the nightclub responded anonymous, You're right, we were disrespectful.
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  Speaker 4: Let's make this right by giving all defense members free
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  Speaker 4: entry and v I this Anzact Day show you a
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  Speaker 4: military idea at the door on this Saturday. To cline,
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  Speaker 4: you have to whatever you stance on this, you have
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  Speaker 4: to admit that was well applied.
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  Speaker 1: That was well played and you know what, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to just say something a little controversial here, but that's
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  Speaker 1: what we're here for, right. Look, I completely respect the
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  Speaker 1: deep traditions of Anzac Day. It is a very solemn
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  Speaker 1: day in which we commemorate the military. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: I have to sort of think about the traditions of
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: the military and the off base traditions of the military. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I have never had the privilege to put on a
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  Speaker 1: uniform for my country, but I do know an awful
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  Speaker 1: lot of people who have, and I will say that
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  Speaker 1: you know they were never a verse where they were
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  Speaker 1: young and in uniform too, on R and R this
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  Speaker 1: sort of fastidization, shall we say. So, I think that
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: this is all kind of you know, you've done the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: dawn service, you've done the day, it's after dark. I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: think you can tie these all things together.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not Look, I'm not too sure.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I think that I look, for the record, I have
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: no issues with these sorts of events. I couldn't care
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: less go for it, who enjoy yourself. I'm just not
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: sure how I feel about this on Anzac Day, in
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: which I think it should be a solemn event. It
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: should be a day of reflection and a Day of
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Remembrance and then for this, you know, this nightclub to go, well,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: let's make it into an explicit rated party with what
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: would it says, it's explicit night out basically, so goodness knows.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, use your imagination what's going to be going
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: on there.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: I just think that the time, don't use Anzac Day
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: to promote it. If you're going to have an event
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: like this, I don't think that the term Anzac Day
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: should it all be used in any of the promotional
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: material for it. That said, I am sure that there's
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: going to be many a soldier going to it, going
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: and enjoying their night out, and good on them that
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: they absolutely deserve it. I just think it's a little
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: bit tacky.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: He's not an argument therefore for having the extra public
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: holiday on the app not this again, we can when
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: it falls on it, because Queensland is one of those
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: states that does not. But if they had the holiday
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: on the Monday, the nightclub could have their t and
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: a night on the Sunday night.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: True it is a law day, yeah no, but I
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: just think it's a bit tacky. Why did they have
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: to put Anzac Day in the in the publicity for
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't they have just left it out.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I have not I have not frequented the establishment personally.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I'm guessing this is something they do every Saturday night,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: and Anzac Day just happened to fall on the Saturday,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: so they're sort of using that to build up and maybe,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: dare I say it, because they know it might generate
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: a bit of publicity. Here we are foolish enough to
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: fall for it. But it's true, it's us And can
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I just say, by the way, because you know how
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: hopelessly confused I got last night as to whether or
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: not an zach Day is a public holiday, which states
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: have it or not? So New South Wales is actually
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: moving it didn't used to have it as a public holiday,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: and now it is saying it will have it going forward.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: And yet no one told the Apple calendar in my iPhone.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: It's not in my thoughts.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: That's what confused me.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: W A get with the program Apple? Come on?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I did that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I actually thought the same.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Thing brambled by brain. So there was so there was
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: a terrifying moment that I thought that me and Chris
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Mins might actually possibly disagree on something. Turns out that
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: completely and we are back in.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And you're well, thank goodness for that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Look, let's go to a very interesting case which has
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: come from overseas but it's now being transported here. So
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: a biological man who now identifies as a woman, who
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: is a nurse and was at the center of a
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: massive legal dispute overseas over a fight for women's only spaces,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: the same fight that we're having here across the well.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: They have now been registered as a female medic here
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: in New South Wales.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: So this is beth Upton.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Beth made headlines in the UK after nurse Sandy Peggy
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: made a harassment claim against them after being forced to
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: share female only facilities at a hospital with this biological man.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: And guess what it was actually Sandy Peggy who was
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: suspended would you believe by the hospital? I mean, this
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: is we're we're at in society. Poor Sandy has been
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: taken through the court system. It's cost taxpayers over in
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: the UK about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, can
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: you believe? Or because she said I do not want
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: a biological man getting changed in front of me, which
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I think many of us would think is absolutely fair enough.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Now under oath.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Beth Upton described the concept of a biological sex as
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: a nebulous dog whistle and said on the basis that
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not a robot, so I am biological and my
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: identity is femil So this beth Upton has now fled
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: the UK and is working in New South Wales at
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Port Macquarie based Hospital and Kempsey District Hospital, and has
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: been registered as a woman. The Australian Health Practitioner Regulation
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Agency defined female as any individual whose biological sex is
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: that of a female, so terrific just a race women's rights.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: In a statement, it says we can confirm that doctor
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth ruth Anarki Upton holds provisional registration as a medical
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: practitioner in Australia, has shown on the public Register of
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Practitioners and a spokesperson for the New South Wales Health
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Minister Ryan Parks says questions were most appropriately directed to APRA.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: We cannot comment on individual employment or registration matters.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Now I have many many issues with this.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: As a woman.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Myself.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Firstly, this beth Upton made women's lives a misery, an
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: absolute misery, and as I said, has taken them through
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the court system over in the UK and now they're
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: here registered as a female.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Secondly as a.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Biological female myself, believe it or not, I actually do
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: not want to be treated by somebody who is a
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: biological male and that is my right to do so.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: So to have this sort of thrust upon me, well,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: you know that they're now a woman, you know, give
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: me a break. But the problem is is that we
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: women do not have any rights in this case because
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Julia gillardam and Sex Discrimination Act. She got rid of
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: the terms. She got rid of the terms male, female
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and sex. So basically sex is rendered useless in this country.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: That's why we've got these self I D laws in
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: many jurisdictions across the country and still have the.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Bit on the form where you can say sex yes please.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I think it is.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: But the problem is, James, is that we've got a
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: broken system here.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: We do a broken system here. And here's the thing
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you know that always strikes me about these cases when
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: they land here is you actually look, you know, this
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: case started, the Upton case started a few years ago
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in the UK. UK has moved well on this, France
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: has moved well on the United States has moved well
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: on the Global Olympic Committee, has moved well on every
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: other sort of big government area sort of you know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: organization that deals with these issues of sex and gender
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and identity has come down on the side of biological
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: male female i e. You know, to borrow, to borrow
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a phrase. The science has settled, and yet now in
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Australia and here Australia, you know, we're still having these issues.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: So many of these things, often these stories that really
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: turned out to be about power more than about sex.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: And that's the big thing I think that I think
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I find really disturbing about this. And then the thing
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that I find disturbing it again. You know, I'm not
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: a biological female, and I don't identify as a female.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: But were I either, you know, and I was in
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: some sort of circumstance where something sort of intimate had
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to be dealt with, let's just put it that way,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and I wanted a female practitioner. I would not care
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: for this to be the person to deal with my issue.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with her being her or
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: being a doctor or whatever, but I think it is
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: what you mentioned that really this is what jumped out
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: at me and maybe it's just sort of my background,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: but it was not the fact that there was even
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: a dispute about this, but rather that this doctor lodged
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: a formal complaint about this nurse who had an issue. Now, firstly,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: we know that there's a hierarchy in the health system.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: We know there's a hierarchy in hospitals, and doctors are
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: always above nurses. And I'm not saying that's right. I'm
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: just saying that that is a fact. And so for me,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: for one thing, a doctor complaining about someone who's effectively
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: an underling, someone beneath them, someone who they already have
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: a huge amount of power over, I have a problem
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: with that. And I also have a problem obviously with
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: the fact that the hospital then just suspended this nurse
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: again for dealing. And we don't know. She may be
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: someone of deep religious faith, she may be someone from
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: you know, another country, another culture where they have no
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: sort of tolerance or knowledge of such things. Or maybe not.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Maybe she just didn't like it, Maybe she was just
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: outraged and didn't like, you know, didn't like what she
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: saw in the change room.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: But I have which is provably acceptable.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: But I have no doubt right, and the problem with this,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: and this whole bloody issue, is that people just pick
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: it up and they just immediately use it as a
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: sledgehammer to beat the for Jesus out of anyone who
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: dares raise an eyebrow or raise any questions. I have
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: no doubt that two people. If you're smart enough to
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: be a doctor, you're smart enough to be able to
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: sit down with someone and actually negotiate or come to
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: some kind of arrangement. I mean, firstly, this is a
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: change room, right, We're not talking about toilet here, So
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure if you're getting changed at the beginning
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: or end of each shift, that's a pretty sort of
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: well known time. And so you could say, look, I'll
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: be using it for this time. If you don't want
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: to see whatever it is, I don't have she's postop or.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Print even have to do that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: But I.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Want to walk in as a female. I want to
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: be able to walk into a women's only space. I
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: do not want to see some bloke in address claiming
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: to me that he is a woman when he's standing
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: start in front of him and his biology would tell
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: me something else.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I don't post off. It's someone like Katherine McGregor someone
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: like Carlotta. I mean, these are people I know who
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I see absolutely one as women.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And that's not who we're talking about here. That's not
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: who we're talking about here.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: What she seems to make an effort.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm not sure it's the erasure of women's rights,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: you know. And this is the saddest part out of
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: all of this, because we deserve, you know, mums, sisters, friends,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: we all deserve to have our sacred spaces and they've
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: been overturned because of the law in this country.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly right, exactly right anyway other things. And you know
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: who else would were is Jim Charmers, Grim Jim Charmers.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Now we are what three weeks away from this great
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: grand quig nole of a budget that he is going
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: to hand down magneficit, and it's going to be horrific,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and it is going to go out there and use
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the cover of this phrase intergenerational warfare to go out
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and screw every Australian who has done the right thing,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: followed the rules, tried to provide for their own financial security,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: done what they were told, invested in property, maybe built
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: up a little portfolio, maybe they've just got their house whatever,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and then oh, no, no, no, no, we're gonna change the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: rules on you. We need that money more than you do,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: because you know what, it's not fair. And the thing,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: this is the thing that gets me absolutely crazy about
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this here. You know, there's this whole issue here on
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the left here, and they push it out and the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: advisors pomp it out to their friendlies in the gallerio.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: This all started because of John Howard, and because of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: course Lefty world, in Joe world, everything goes back to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it's all John Howard's He's the He's like the annual
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Goldstein in nineteen eighty four. You know, it's all a
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: k John Howard and so you know, but here's the thing.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Oh ninety ninety nine they changed the rules and that's
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: when property took off. Well, i'll tell you what. Property
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: took off everywhere in the English speaking world. It took
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: off in the UK, it took them in Canada, it
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: took off in America, it took off in all of
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: these countries. Why because of two things. Number one, vast
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: amounts of cash poured into the economy after the GFC
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and also COVID and number two, mass immigration in all
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of these countries. And I'll tell you a little something
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that we don't really hear too much about here because
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: while everybody is off posting that Mark Carney speech on
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: LinkedIn about how wonderfulness to be a middle power, i e.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: A Cast Paul from China, we ignore the fact that
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: in Canada they have made a massive push to reduce
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the number of worker visas and student visas and guess what,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: rents have gone down for the last seventeen months straight.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: So this is a massive gas line attempt by Jim
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Chalbers to excuse the fact that he's unable to manage
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the country's money. We're going towards well over a trillion
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: dollars in debt, and they're just coming for everybody out
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: there who's worked hard all of their life to try
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and grab money out of their pockets to make up
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: for their own leftist, socialist, communist inadequacies.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: That was a magnificent Obviously, what we're talking about is
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: what they've floated is a proposal to have the capital Gains.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Take it away completely.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Scout, Well, I think it's just I think it's just hard.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's get rid of it. Well, we
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: haven't seen it we don't know. D I just run
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: a few things up the flag pile. But the proposed
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: lissal was not to get rid of it altogether, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: it would be half what the discount would be half
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: what it is, so you'd be paying more and the
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: things to me, I don't mind this that this would
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: be on investment property obviously, I don't mind this as
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: a tool to reduce the number of reduce incentives of
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: people buying extra houses as investment properties, which would presumably
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: put more houses on the market that first home buy
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: is goodbye. That's the thinking behind it. The problem, I
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: think is that it's kind of a general fighting the
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: last war instead of the next one. Because the housing
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: the most acute housing crisis at the moment isn't home ownership.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: It's rental affordability. It's and rental access being able to
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: actually find and afford a house to rent. And this
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: is what happened with the negative gearing debate just a
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: few years ago, which is why Albow very wisely said, no,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: we are not going to put a cap on it
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: or get rid of it, because all the expert advice
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: is that we need more investment properties at the moment
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: because they are the ones being rented out to renters,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: and that is a more acute problem, and it's terrible.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: If you can't afford to buy a house, you can't
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: afford to put a roof over your head, that's a
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: housing emergency, that's a christ.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: The problem, Joe, is that they are stoking this hatred
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: between the generations. They're playing into this false narrative struggle
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: younger people are that young people are being done over
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: by the boomers. Oh, these terrible boomers.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Really interesting things though, if you looked at that news
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: pool from the other day, it found that when it
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: was they looked at all these different proposals for PAX,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: for form and all of that, the CGT changes were
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: less popular with the eighteen to thirty fives than they
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: were with the sixty five and over.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I mean, my generation are all talking
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: about how we want to own our own home, we
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: want to be able to try and get into the market,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: and this will not.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Actually get young people into that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Exactly, it would actually do the opposite because it makes
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: an investment property less appealing in the end.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And then you look further down.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: The line, why would you bother firstly because you wouldn't
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: make any money for it.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: But then you know you're talking about rents.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: This will have the opposite effect because it rents will
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: absolutely go up. And I do agree with your point
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: about the retirees, James. They're literally hanging it on retirees
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: who have worked so hard for their for their whole lives.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. And all this is
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: to try and hide up Jim Chalmer's disastrous economic management.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: This would be almost certainly as all previous negative gearing
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: or proposals in this area have been. This would be grandfather.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: So if you already had a negative gear or a
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: people that's right, which it might be. Why the oldies
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: love it?
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Why the young people?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: And it's again it's generation. There is a gap with this.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense. It does not make any sense.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: You know what else's think we want it?
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Let me do, let me do the seguay. You know
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: what does make sense. Noah's Ark. It's real. Yes, they
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: have found that. Well they think they have found, or
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: it's possible they have found there is evidence that they
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: have actually found the real Noah's Arc in Turkey on
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Mount ara Rat, and experts are now saying this could
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: be it the animals going in two by two, the
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: whole bit. It could actually be real. A researchers bombshell
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: new finding. This is in the New York Post, so
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: you know it must be true. Research is bombshell. New
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: finding has got a strange rock formation Turkey could prove
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: that Noah's Ark is real. Andrew Jones, a researcher with
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Noah's Ark scans, told gb News our friends across the pond.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Exciting you find is about the rock formation first discovered
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: in nine fifty nine, nineteen to fifty nine, and Turkey's
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Mount Arrarat could prove the boat from the Book of Genesis.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Now nineteen fifty nine. You say this has been around
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: since forever. You say, what's so new, Well, they've got
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: the scans and the similarly X ray radar. I don't
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: know what they do, but you know they've got all
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the tech. There you go, it looks like that. So
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: they can actually map out the shape of what they
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: think is the boat, which means they can measure the
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: size of the boat and it is exactly the same
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: length as it says in the Bible.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Hundred cubits three.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Ninety nine cubits, not three hundred and one three hundred.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Do you know how long a cubit is? I have
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: absolutely no idea. You know, it's the same.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: That's it's amazing.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's amazing. I think with everything going on
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: in the world right now, I just don't want to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: be lifting lids on any arcs at the moment. You
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: know, it's only gets a little bit sort of.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Found Pandora's box.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think this is absolutely fans fascinating. But look,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: before we got a break, speaking of you don't want
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: to be opening anybody's boxes.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Gu keths.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Starmer's box has been well and truly open forroving himself
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: as a real lame duck, let's be honest, looked disaster
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: for him. Obviously. He's still embroiled in this scandal with
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Peter Madison. Why are you laughing, James, I don't.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know why everyone's laughing the Peter Madison scandal.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Of course, he appointed him as the US ambassador despite
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the fact that he knew that he was had links
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: to ties ties of Jeffrey Epstein. He was worn multiple times,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: but he still hired him. But g gets from from
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: bad to worse. The vetting process is now under scrutiny.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Now have a listen to Olie Robbins, who was actually sacked.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: He was a person who approved this vetting even though
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Mandelson had actually failed his security checks. He was basically
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: the scape go for it. Have a look at what
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: he said about Starba today.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: I'm afraid what that translated into for my team in
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: the Foreign Office, and certainly the handover briefing I was
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: getting as I arrived at post was what I felt
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: was a generally dismissive attitude to his vetting clearance. The
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: focus was on getting Mandelsson out to Washington quickly.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Jae's looking pretty bad for Starma. Surely his days a numbered.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Come on, he can't last the week.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But it's think all the things. See this is like
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the least of the Starmer's sins against Britain.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Look at the way he's mishaidled migration. Look at the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: way they go after ordinary people for tweets. Look what's
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: ale to the economy. Look at you know, the state
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: of the city. So it was happening in northern England
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: right now. The whole country is a disaster. He should
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: have been gone along time ago. Absolutely, bring on reform.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: And look how he's handled the Iron War as well.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: You know now he's trying to insert himself front and center.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: So he's a real real genius, isn't he?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Stay with us.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, we're going to take a
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: look at the day's front pages, including children be exposed
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: to school massacre simulations and ISIS terror attacks on gaming websites.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That's next, Welcome back.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: There's way too much debauchery going on on this set tonight.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a classy female here and I'm
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: surrounded by two blokes with dirty minds. Okay, let's have
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: a look what's making the front pages The Daily Telegraph.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: You've got tonight, the Daily Telegraphs, that matey Daily Telegraph. Yes,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Sarah on the box, it's yes, that's right here on
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the television set, Joe. And we've got a terrifying, actually
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: really disturbing, to get serious for a second here story
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: about how all of these big gaming platforms like Roblocks, Minecraft, Fortnite,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and Steve are all being accused of And I have
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: seen some of the footage from some of these games
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and the pictures they are the paper tomorrow. Check this out.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: All sorts of stuff where kids are basically able to
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: simulate terrorist attacks. There's Nazi stuff being put in there, swastikas,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: all sorts of really really vile stuff. Now, the e
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Safety Commissioner, for whatever issues we may have with her
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: on other sorts of areas here, of she's quite upset
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: about this here. But I think that this is really
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing here. This is a really huge warning too.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't even know these things really existed,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: but you know, because I always thought that Minecraft was
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: justice sort of like thing where they go and they
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: build little things and buildings that apparently there are really
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: really sinister stuff happening. There's Nazi stuff, there's terrorist stuff.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Isis stuff all existing in this virtual world that kids
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: are being exposed to participating in. And you know, I
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: think parents saying, oh, they're on there, on the Fortnite
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: or whatever, it's all, you know, whatever end up. And
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: this is I think the big wake up call I
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: think is really for parents. Look, I would say just
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to pick the gaming platforms up and take them outside
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and reverse Yes, drive it back and pull back two
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: or three times, back and forth.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: My kids are on at least a couple of days
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: and they haven't. I don't not tomorrow, I haven't. I
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: don't think they've been exposed to any of this stuff.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: But it strikes me as really strange. I think I
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: would have thought that because my understanding, they can buy
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: like skins, they call them, so they can get dressed
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: up in different outfits and stuff. I'd be amazed if
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: maybe they can make their own or something and maybe.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Happening there it is.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I do know that, Like there's a capacity to chat
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: as well, and that's another thing. Yes, and that is
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: a problem, but I've been really impressed, Like my son,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: for example, knows as soon as anything remotely sus pops up,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: it's an instant report in an instant.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Well, that's good.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: But they'd be also a lot of parents who would
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: be none the wiser. They've got no idea what that
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: what their kids would be looking at. Let's take a
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: look at the Herald Sun Court nappy.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: That's a great thridlock for justice.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: With one hundred and twenty four thousand resolved cases, Victoria's
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: justice system is buckling as shocking you. Figures reveal an
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: incredible one hundred and twenty four thousand cases across criminal
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: and civil courts are waiting to be finalized. Court statistics
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: show the number of unresolved criminal cases rose by four
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: thousand in the twelve months to December tweeny twenty five.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Senior court sources predict the delays will get even worse
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: with Victoria facing a potential major justice gridlock.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: While we were just talking about.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: The story just before about how we need to rely
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: on the justice system to make serious, serious decisions here
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: and they're at a gridlock.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Gridlock and justice de leaders, justice denied. I mean, this
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: is Think about all the victims who are out there
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: with their alleged perpetrators out on bail or whatever. Think
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: about all the people who just unresolved court case. It's
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a nightmare. This, this is Victoria.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Is just a victorious a mess.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: There's a snowball effect, isn't it. Of course, by the
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: more people you have committed crimes, the.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: More maybe if you just maybe you just the friend
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: putting them on bill and then will commit more crimes
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that keep smirling in and out, keeping people in jail.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Tell you what I lived at Rudy Giuliani's New York.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: It works broken with but they got a serianes.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: We teach people a lesson for once, instead of giving
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: them a slap on the race. As he said, the
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: cycle of crime just keeps going.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I forget the slap on the risk given them having
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: first ask questions later back to the courier mail now
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: and this is you thought that headline was good? How
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: is this not? Leanne? Sorry about that? But foot rot rats?
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Get it foot rock rats instead of foot rock flats
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: afraid of puddles by someone who was literally just born
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: to be a journalist, Taylor Fellows. How about that for
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: a byeline anyway. The boss of a major demolition company
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: raced to Bunnings to buy dozens of gum boots after
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: the CU threatened to send workers home for fear they
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: would get foot right from puddles, and inquiry heard, Oh,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I thought they'd be made for that sterner stuff you
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: know anyway exactly. This was among a bizarre list of
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: demands the union allegedly forced upon rosenln deminitions with demolitions,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: which included making them hire a full time cleaner for
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: five toilets and demanding sixty thousand dollars up front to
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: hire a professional boxer as a site delegate. Now they
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: justpensing justice in yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Where we're at. Seriously, this really where we're at.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: The company was also allegedly pushed to handover workers' personal
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: details and pressure to funnel employees into the union linked
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: b U s SQ Bus SQ Super fun. So that's nice,
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: isn't it. Good on the CFMU for standing up for
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: workers right and making sure our workplace. And they're not
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: affiliated with labour anymore.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: No, thank goodness for Bunnings where you need them. They're
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: there with their guns after hours.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: You know they're are after.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Contrary and contrary to what the Prime Minister said the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: other day, was in there the other day and in
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: fact they did have Jerry Can. So ah. This was fascinating,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: hit by the speaking of just the way all of
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: our money gets thrown around and put on the fire
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: by government. The Australian has a story here. I'm just
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: gonna read you the first paragraph here. Legal expenses paid
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: by the National Disability Insurance Agency have surged in the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: past seven years to three hundred and thirteen million dollars,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: amid an increase in plan appeals with the scheme fighting.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna love this. Here, legal battles against people
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: claiming thermomixes, pilates reformers, I don't even know what that is,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and a forty eight hundred dollars temperature regulating matches.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: So well, a pilarates reform a machine. So you know
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: how you have like matt pilarates. Well, this is actually
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: a reformer. Okay, it's very popular exercise. It's a very
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: formal and popular form of exercise. But once again, what
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: does this show. Well, the NDIS is an absolute behemoth
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: that needs to be knocked down from start to end.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Of course, it was designed for the most severely disabled,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: as it should have been, and now people are spending
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: it on thermo mixes. So that is where this disastrous
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: scheme is at mix where's my plate's reform of machines.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Is so inferio?
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Where'sture controlled mattress?
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I believe it or not. Temperature control when you're a quadriplegic,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: like my best friend, is temperature control. You can't actually
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: regulate your own body temperature. So temperature control is a
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: matter of life and death, literally a matter of life
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: and death. And yet when he tries to get some
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: form of temperature control that he can control, so he
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: can control his own the temperature in his house, a
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: ie decide whether he lives or dies in the middle
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: of the night, the NDIS actually says, oh no, sorry,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: we won't do that for you. We can't do that
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: for you. Actually spend more money fighting it and contesting
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: it that it would have cost to actually just put
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: it in as it was supposed to do in the
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: first place. And yet here they are, you know, well,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: handing out firmin exen Well, I mean it's ridiculous.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Again, it just comes down to the fact that this
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: NDIS is out of control.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely ridiculous.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look at the advertiser missing in action
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: to senior cops vanish and you're in the dark. Civil
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: liberties groups and free speech advocates call for an overhaul
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: of South Australia's draconian secrecy laws after the state's top cop,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Grant Stevens, refused to disclose while two senior officers are
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: missing in action, one officer has been on paid leave
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: for a full year.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Look this is I'd love to know, I'd.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Love to fill in the gaps of this story because
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I'm quite fascinated. So one of them's ones on paid
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: lee for a full year. I'm not sure where the
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: other one has gone missing. He's missing an action.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: But I don't understand psure that what was being happening
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: is that there's some allegation of this conduct that's been suppressed.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Here must be the thing and that and then that's
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: why they're sing.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: We don't know, but you.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Think it should be the public interest.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is ridiculous that that there's these draconian
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: secrecy laws.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: No, it's not like their public servants or anything.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Well, good point, good point.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Anyway, Good on them for getting behind that. The Gold
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Coast bulletin finally, and we have on the front page
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: the simple words God bless b RS War hero defense
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Ben Roberts Smith, a Gold Coast Vietnam veteran, has said
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: the case against accused war criminal Ben Robert Smith quote
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: really bloody stinks unquote and quote God bless him. While
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: receiving a long overdue medal for his courage under fire,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Mermaid Beach resident Gary John Chad was awarded the Medal
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: of Gallantry from Governor Jeannette Young. I remember her from COVID.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Remember her. She doesn't don't catch the football. She was
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: something like, I don't want to aid it anyway. For
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: his actions on July twenty nine, well, nineteen seventy.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I can't argue with that. I cannot argue with that one.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Stay with us. We're going to take a quick break.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Coming up.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: After the break, Kamala Harris's latest word salad and another
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: accent another day here we go, coming up next.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. Well, Carmala Harris. Yeah, she's
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: back again, isn't she? James?
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: What she's done that, well, you gotta love this, guys.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. First of all, this tells me that she's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: definitely running for president. But everybody out there, remember that
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: harlesing John he said about asked not what you can
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: do for what your country did for you, ask what
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you can do for your country. Kamala Harris, she's just
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: come out with a different take on that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: I think it's okay for us just to be a
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: bit transactional too, and to say I'm gonna get mine also,
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: and so don't count on me to be a voter
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: and be the backbone of the Democratic Party because it.
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: Is my it is my value system and my ethics
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: and my sense of civic duty and responsibility, so that
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: you look at me and say, oh, they're gonna vote.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel about eight or nine
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Sharaday's right now. But of Hillary Clinton's favous time when
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: she put on a similar.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: Accent, I don't feel no way tired.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I come too far.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there you have it. Kamala's definitely running and
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: we are going to have so much fun. Was that,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you know what?
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I hope that she does seriously, because if that's the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: best the Dems have got, good luck to them.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: As letting them talk?
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Who is letting them talk?
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Who's isn't that Kamla talk for the past couple of
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: years now? Cringe fact, Okay, get ready to cringe.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: In Delaware, there was a marathon that was taking place. Now,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: this guy thought he was winning, He thought he was
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: about to win it. He did a little celebratory were
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: who uh oh someone just pipped him at the post.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: Have a look, yeah, oh.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: How would you be? How he was premature?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Premature?
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: How's the shouted freud from the guy who was filling a.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Nemesis, that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Sad, yeah, okay. And finally tonight we saved the best
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: for last. Matt Canavan or should that be Matt Caravan
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: because it looked like he was crossing live from a
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: caravan park during his cross to sky this morning, what's
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: going on? Have a look?
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Joining us live from Griffith in New South Wales this
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: morning is the Nationals leader Matt Canavano has been camping
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: out overnight.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: He's got the flannel and the beanie on.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: I stupidly told Australia I'm going to pack my swag
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: and camp just throw away line, but I thought i'd
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: better do it if I've made the promise. There you go,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: and very good instincts there. As always, Maddie. If you
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: tell the Australian that you're going to do something, you
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: have to do something. Do it otherwise they send Headley
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Thomas to do a podcast about you. Nobody wants that.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel like it suited him though I
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: don't know, just see him, but he gets involved.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Should the CEO sleep out this year?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Would you be great?
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: No, I completely agree. That's it.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Well, that's all we've got time for tonight. It's got
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: a pleasure to have you on the show, James Mark.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having much.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: How fun we've had, we've had a very great night.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you for your company, Do stay with us. Coming
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: up next is the Rita Panahi Show.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Good Night,