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Chuck and Buck 4-30 H3: Andy Avalos, ABC's of the Mariners, NBA Playoffs · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 3: Chuck?
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  Speaker 4: TCU defensive coordinator Andy Obolos. Because he's joining us right
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  Speaker 4: now on the radio program. That's right time to talk
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  Speaker 4: to some Bud Clark with the horn Frogs DC. Andy
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  Speaker 4: Abolos joins us here on Chuck and Buck, How are
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  Speaker 4: you coach.
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  Speaker 5: Doing awesome? Just out running around? You have a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of recruiting down here in the Houston Houston area
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  Speaker 5: looking for the next guys to bring along.
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  Speaker 3: The next Bud Clark.
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  Speaker 5: We're searching, definitely, We're turning over every stone to find
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  Speaker 5: the next Bud Clark. Now those those there's unfortunately there's
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  Speaker 5: a few and far in between Bud Clark's out there,
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  Speaker 5: but we're going to do our best to find another
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  Speaker 5: young man at that cal and that talent to bring on.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you something because i've heard you, actually,
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  Speaker 4: I think you've done a couple of other interviews already
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  Speaker 4: in the market. Are you surprised at how interested we
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  Speaker 4: see Hawk fans are and Bud Clark?
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  Speaker 5: No, not at all, And I'll tell you for all
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  Speaker 5: all the reasons. I mean, we missed the guy already,
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  Speaker 5: not just as a football player and one of the
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  Speaker 5: leaders of our defense and being in and around the
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  Speaker 5: facility every day, but you know, as we're out on
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  Speaker 5: the road recruiting right now. Yeah, there's a certain level
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  Speaker 5: of measurements that you're looking for talent level that's going
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  Speaker 5: to fit a role and in all the things that
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  Speaker 5: you can develop. But more importantly, you know, we're looking
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  Speaker 5: for the right people. Sorry, as you can hear the
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  Speaker 5: bell ring at the school on that right now. But uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know it's Buds. Bud's got these intangibles that that
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  Speaker 5: are just off the chart as the person, his charisma,
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  Speaker 5: and there's coaches that are going to want to coach
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  Speaker 5: him because of the type of person is. There's teammates
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  Speaker 5: that are going to want to be around him because
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  Speaker 5: of the type of person.
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  Speaker 6: He is.
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  Speaker 5: Extremely hard, hard worker. I mean shoot, over the course
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  Speaker 5: of the two years that we were together at TCU,
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  Speaker 5: I can't remember a time, guys when his GPS wasn't
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  Speaker 5: the highest in a workout or in a practice. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Bud works, and I think people are going to be
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  Speaker 5: very excited to see that, see how he comes along
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  Speaker 5: with this great coaching staff that he gets to be
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  Speaker 5: developed by.
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  Speaker 4: Andy Avolos as our guest here on Chuck and Buck,
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  Speaker 4: defensive coordinator for the TCU Horn Froggs football program, he
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  Speaker 4: coached Bud Clark. The Seahawks took with a sixty fourth
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  Speaker 4: overall selection and the draft on Friday at the end
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  Speaker 4: of round number two, and so we're trying to get
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  Speaker 4: to know Bud Clark a little bit better through a
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  Speaker 4: guy that's guided him here to some of his football
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  Speaker 4: success that he had in Texas.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about his experience because I love this. For
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  Speaker 4: the National Football League, it kind of felt to me
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  Speaker 4: that for a while, teams were drafting the younger player
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  Speaker 4: that they couldn't and maybe since COVID coach, we're seeing
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  Speaker 4: a trend toward no, we want the guys that have
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  Speaker 4: racked up the most experience possible at the college football level.
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  Speaker 4: I know the Seahawks are leaning that way. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's a credit to you and the college coach today
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  Speaker 4: that we trust what you've taught them, what we're seeing
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  Speaker 4: on film, and we love the fact that Bud Clark
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  Speaker 4: has a lot of experience, even if he's a little
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  Speaker 4: older than our normal draft pick. What is your take
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  Speaker 4: on that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, one hundred percent experience wins, right, Like having
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  Speaker 5: guys that understand and know what to do when to
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  Speaker 5: do it, have shown improving you know through the course
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  Speaker 5: of years that they're capable of doing it. They have
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  Speaker 5: a skill set and a talent that the Good Lord's
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  Speaker 5: bless them with, but that they know how to use it.
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  Speaker 5: That goes a long way. You know, we've talked before
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  Speaker 5: and we're looking for similar things than players here at TCU.
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  Speaker 5: We're looking for smart, tough guys that are going to
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  Speaker 5: be consistent with what the Good Lord's given him day
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  Speaker 5: in and day out. And I think when you look
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  Speaker 5: at a guy that like Bud, who's played as many
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  Speaker 5: snaps as he has and not only played, but played
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  Speaker 5: at a very very high level, I know that you
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  Speaker 5: know exactly what you're going to get going forward. And
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  Speaker 5: with Bud too, you know, he has the ability, he's
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  Speaker 5: got position flexibility. There's many people from the NFL that
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  Speaker 5: you know, we're inquiring about him playing corner, not just
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  Speaker 5: safety because of his cover skills, his man to man
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  Speaker 5: coverability and obviously he plays all the zones already as
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  Speaker 5: a safety, and so we're just excited to see, you know,
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  Speaker 5: what Coach McDonald's sides to do with him, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: from Afar just being a fan of what he's always
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  Speaker 5: done and the defenses he's ran. And so you know,
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  Speaker 5: us too down here in Texas, are going to be
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  Speaker 5: watching from afar to see how Bud progresses.
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  Speaker 4: Well, what's something about him that only somebody that's around
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  Speaker 4: him every day can know and appreciate? It doesn't show
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  Speaker 4: up on film that where a scout can study that,
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  Speaker 4: but as somebody that intimately has worked with him every
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  Speaker 4: single day for the last year or so. What's something
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  Speaker 4: about Bud Clark that the Seahawks are about to learn
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  Speaker 4: once they're around him every day.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think you myself, everybody, you want to go
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  Speaker 5: to work the people are going to be around every
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  Speaker 5: day you want to go to work with you know,
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  Speaker 5: you want to be around them, You want to help them,
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  Speaker 5: you want them to help you, You want to work
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  Speaker 5: together as a team. And budgets again has that charisma
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  Speaker 5: not only with his coaches, but his teammates. There's there's
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  Speaker 5: going to be coaches around him that they're going to
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  Speaker 5: get a guy that's very passionate about what he you know,
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  Speaker 5: very passionate about this game and how he goes about
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  Speaker 5: preparing himself and his his teammates are going to see
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  Speaker 5: that as well, that you know, he's passionate about being
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  Speaker 5: the best he can and each and every day and
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, he's going to have that smile.
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  Speaker 5: That's going to put a smile on your face too,
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  Speaker 5: And you guys are going to love covering him and
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  Speaker 5: he's he's just gonna he's going to bring that joy
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  Speaker 5: to you. And even in times when you know there's
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  Speaker 5: difficult tasks that needed done, there's things that need to
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  Speaker 5: get sorted out, it's you know, it's always fun to
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  Speaker 5: find your way through it with a guy like him.
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  Speaker 4: Andy Avolos is with US defensive coordinator at Texas. Christian
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  Speaker 4: used to be a defensive coach at Boise State, where
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  Speaker 4: he coached a guy by the name of DeMarcus Lawrence.
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  Speaker 4: Have you called DeMarcus to tell him, hey, take care
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  Speaker 4: of my boy, Bud.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: That was one of the first things to do that
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  Speaker 5: night when Budd got drafted by the Seahawks. It was
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  Speaker 5: one of the first things to do. I'm very fortunate
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  Speaker 5: to be a part of Demarcus's life and see how
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  Speaker 5: he's grown and the things that he's done and the
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  Speaker 5: man that he's become. And you know, it was really
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  Speaker 5: cool to see what the Seahawks were able to do
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  Speaker 5: last year. Obviously, being a fan in rooting from Afar,
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  Speaker 5: but now being able to have another player that we're
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  Speaker 5: close with and being able to connect these two and
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  Speaker 5: make sure, you know, they help each other. It's definitely
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  Speaker 5: helps to have mentors and people that have been in
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  Speaker 5: the league and done these things and know what it
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  Speaker 5: takes and the consistency level. So it's like Marcus, you've
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  Speaker 5: got a little brother. Yeah, Bud, you've got a new
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  Speaker 5: big brother. You guys take care of each other. Make
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  Speaker 5: sure we have the right people around ourselves. We're doing
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  Speaker 5: the right things so we can succeed. So there's two
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  Speaker 5: guys right there there, you know, some of the hardest
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  Speaker 5: workers that we've been blessed to be around, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: hopefully they can have a huge impact together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see on your resume you were also of
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  Speaker 4: course at Oregon. Uh are you relieved to have washed
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  Speaker 4: that stink off of you?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what, I've been blessed the a
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  Speaker 5: few good places that that I'm very grateful for. And
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  Speaker 5: to be honest, you just the people that we've been around,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, and that goes that's that's even bigger
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  Speaker 5: blessing for for you know, these guys going that they
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  Speaker 5: get to be around leaders in an organization like the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, John Schneider is that's it's been pretty cool
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  Speaker 5: to see again from Afar and how he's rebuilt the
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks over the last couple of years and to
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  Speaker 5: bring it all together last year with the coaching staff
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  Speaker 5: that they've brought in there, it's pretty cool to see.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you along those lines, as a
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  Speaker 4: defensive coordinator yourself, I mean, is everybody in the industry
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  Speaker 4: college pro I mean, are you studying what Mike McDonald's
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  Speaker 4: doing defensively?
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  Speaker 3: Are you?
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  Speaker 4: Are you foolish if you're not trying to figure out
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  Speaker 4: what he's doing to change defense right now in the
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  Speaker 4: National Football League.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, of course, we've we have been for a few years.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we've we've had people that have worked with us,
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  Speaker 5: that have worked with coach before in the past, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, we fortunate enough we have access to all
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  Speaker 5: NFL film and you know, even some of the college
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  Speaker 5: thoughts that he's been at, and so we have been
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  Speaker 5: able to do that. You know, we're coaches, we're pirates.
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  Speaker 5: We're always trying to pirate things that can fit us
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  Speaker 5: and that we can do well. And it's just it's
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  Speaker 5: it's the way the game goes. You're always trying to
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  Speaker 5: learn and grow, and definitely that's that's one coach that
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  Speaker 5: you know you keep your eyes on.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well, tell us before we let you go
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  Speaker 4: a little TCU football, how are things going, what kind
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  Speaker 4: of season you expecting.
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  Speaker 3: Who's the next.
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  Speaker 4: Bud Clark that we'll talk about next year?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, of course, we know. We're fortunate to have
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  Speaker 5: a few guys drafted off the defense this year, so
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  Speaker 5: this spring was huge into filling in a couple positions
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  Speaker 5: and letting guys compete and creating experience. You know, as
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  Speaker 5: we were talking on earlier, we have a fair amount
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  Speaker 5: of guys coming back. We got some talent to fill
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  Speaker 5: where guys went on to the NFL, and we had
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  Speaker 5: a really good spring ball on defense. We got a
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  Speaker 5: new offenseive coordinator who's doing an excellent job, and we're
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  Speaker 5: really excited to take what we did and all the
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  Speaker 5: growth we had in the spring and lead into the
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  Speaker 5: summertime and keep going because the Lord only knows Aucust
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  Speaker 5: is going to be here in a blink of an
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  Speaker 5: eye and where we're going to be ramping up and
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  Speaker 5: getting ready to go all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Well, you got any dirt you can give me
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  Speaker 4: on Bud before we let you go, like some funny
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  Speaker 4: story that I can run past them to training camp.
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  Speaker 3: When I get to meet.
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  Speaker 5: Him, Oh, man, just just ask him. He'll know. Just
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  Speaker 5: ask him if he's one hundred and ninety five pounds yet,
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  Speaker 5: because that was our ongoing joke. But Bud's Bud run
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  Speaker 5: so much. His GPS is so high that it's hard
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  Speaker 5: for my man to gain a little bit of weight.
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  Speaker 5: And he was, he was always struggling to be one ninety.
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  Speaker 5: And we're always on him about his body armor, the
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  Speaker 5: way he plays the game, the way he attacks ball carriers,
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  Speaker 5: and so I would always joke with him that I'm
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  Speaker 5: not I'm not calling you Bud. I'm gonna call you
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  Speaker 5: by your giving name, Jadarius until you get the one
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  Speaker 5: ninety five consistently. So I hope he is that. I
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  Speaker 5: know he is that now, and I'm looking forward to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, for you guys getting to meet him and
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  Speaker 5: be around him and see the type of person he
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  Speaker 5: is as as you guys cover him, you know, in
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  Speaker 5: his career up there.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well, that's that sounds great, Well, thank you, coach.
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  Speaker 4: We appreciate the insight, enjoy the off season, however short
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  Speaker 4: that might be for you, and and good luck next here.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we appreciate it. Thanks for having.
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  Speaker 4: Us, all right, Andy Avolos joining us right here on
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  Speaker 4: Chuck and Buck in the morning, of course, Coach Bud
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  Speaker 4: Clark there at Texas Christian University, one of the newest
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks and joining us here on the program here today
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  Speaker 4: to talk about that that player.
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  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean I'm excited about him.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is something that the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: are doing really well right now. And and and along
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  Speaker 4: with other organizations, other defensive minds, you better be studying
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  Speaker 4: what Mike McDonald's doing. You better be pirrating some of
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  Speaker 4: his concepts. And and maybe you won't be able to
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  Speaker 4: ever have that mind, but you certainly can tap into
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  Speaker 4: some of the things he's doing and and take advantage
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  Speaker 4: of that thing would be foolish not to. And another
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  Speaker 4: thing that I think NFL teams should be tapping into.
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  Speaker 4: And this team I think turned over a new leaf
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  Speaker 4: a few years ago. They got tired of drafts that
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  Speaker 4: weren't turning out as well as they once were, and
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  Speaker 4: I think they grounded themselves, and they really made a
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  Speaker 4: conscious effort toward character. They really made a conscious effort
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  Speaker 4: toward loving lovers of football, guys that had passion, really
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  Speaker 4: made a conscious effort toward experience, merely made a conscious
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  Speaker 4: effort toward loyalty. I mean, Bud Clark spent his entire
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  Speaker 4: time at TCU. We heard some of these things going
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  Speaker 4: into the draft, and then certainly they drafted that way
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  Speaker 4: again this year. And I would think I'm kind of
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  Speaker 4: glad to see that NFL teams are leaning this way.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the Seahawks learned their lessons, a few
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  Speaker 4: of them the hard way, and I think it's a
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  Speaker 4: big part of why they've had this speedy return to
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  Speaker 4: glory under Mike and John and why they've been able
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  Speaker 4: to mend some of their fences and fill some of
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  Speaker 4: their holes. It's with this sort of mindset, and they're
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  Speaker 4: doubling down on it going forward. And so you know
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  Speaker 4: that Bud Clark fits the Sea culture and the Seahawks way.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see it being play.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, Kobe Bryant wasn't one of our
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  Speaker 4: best players. He was a damn good player.
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  Speaker 3: Very good and very important to what Mike McDonald does.
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  Speaker 4: Right, And so this is sort of what Bud Clark's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be challenged to do, like be our next Kobe Bryant, right,
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  Speaker 4: And maybe you won't be as a starter right out
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  Speaker 4: of the gates. I don't think Kobe was either, but
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  Speaker 4: but certainly this is the opportunity that you have this
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  Speaker 4: hybrid safety slash corner that might be able to fill
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  Speaker 4: those shoes, if not immediately eventually. And the experience that
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  Speaker 4: he has and the character that he has, that's why
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  Speaker 4: he's a Seahawk right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I love it personally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you mentioned kind of the draft philosophy that
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks have shifted towards in the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, honestly, you look at kind of those
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  Speaker 2: late twenty tens drafts, there's a couple of reasons for it.
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  Speaker 2: When you're consistently in the playoffs and kind of battling
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  Speaker 2: for you know, division championships and stuff like that, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be picking towards the end of the first round
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  Speaker 2: more often than not, and not just in the first
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  Speaker 2: round every round as we've seen now. It's not a
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  Speaker 2: serpent team draft or anything like that. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have a less of a chance to really improve
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  Speaker 2: your team if your team's already good.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But you also, the Seahawks, for whatever reason, kind of
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  Speaker 2: shifted away from the quote unquote consensus board, and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like they've kind of shifted back towards like, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: the people that everyone seems to think are really good
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  Speaker 2: football players, we don't have to try and outsmart the
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  Speaker 2: room here. We can also just pick the good football players,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Fair.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons why their drafts have
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  Speaker 2: been so good the last few years. And you look
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  Speaker 2: at teams like the forty nine ers who have kind
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  Speaker 2: of gone that direction where the Seahawks were and shifting
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  Speaker 2: away from the quote unquote consensus board. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I just that rang a lot of bells for you know,
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  Speaker 2: the late twenty tens drafts the Seahawks had for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, believe me, and covering them all yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: having to hear how stupid we were and all the experts,
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  Speaker 4: the so called experts are, and how smart the Seahawks are,
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  Speaker 4: and after every single draft, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, I think the experts had a better draft.
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  Speaker 3: Experience than you do, be sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, And I think that there was a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I think they maybe did get a little too cute
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: and then wanted to wanted to show everybody their genius, yeah,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: versus you know, maybe maybe the consensus.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: There's a reason that's the consensus.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you are going to still have some
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: misses in that. Obviously, there's people there, there's players that everyone.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Don't ever want you to draft according to the no,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: but you better not be drafting against the consensus, yeah,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: just because you don't want to give them the satisfaction
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: of taking somebody you think they should that they think
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: you should take.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: And there's a way of doing it in your own
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: way where it's like, hey, they're they're like just scout
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: people and whoever you think are good football players and
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: good fits. That's the other thing. You can pick a
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: good football player, but that's also a good fit for
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: what you feel like is going to be good for
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: your locker room. And I feel like the Seahawks have
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: done that in the last few years, and they've kind
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: of doubled down on that this year with a lot
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: of similar types of personalities, especially in the secondary. The
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Bud Clark, the Julian Niels of the world that are
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: extremely confident but also very smart. I think they picked
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: like three or four of their eight draft picks were
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: all academic in their conference. Which there's another, you know,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: kind of common theme here with a lot of these points.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, what is wrong?
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: I want smart, skilled, passionate football players. Yeah, that seems
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: like a pretty good direction to go in.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: And they're not the only team doing it now these days,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: they're not the only team making that adjustment. I mean,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I present to you exhibit a Xavian Harris, who was
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: a defensive lineman out of Old Miss. I mean, this
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: guy's six' eight three and thirty pounds And Old miss
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: was putting up with all of his offseason nonsense Because
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Lane keiffn really doesn't have a, soul and so they
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: were putting up and putting him on the. Field and
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: when he was on the, FIELD i mean they were
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: using them like how we freaking long for goodness, sake
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: one of the greatest of all, time and they're putting
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: him at the five, technique they're putting him at the three,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: technique they're lining them up over. CENTER i mean they
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: were using him as a, weapon, like we've got a
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: beast and he's got some, agility and he's got size and,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: strength and you don't ever know where he's going to line.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Up and so this was the type of player that
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Ole miss was showcasing the past couple of. Years AND
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: i would think under normal, circumstances when you think about
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: What mike McDonald tries to do, defensively how much would
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: he have loved a six foot eight, inch three hundred
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: and thirty, pounds agile defensive lineman that can line.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Up up and down the defensive.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Line, yeah the kind of mismatches that his mind might
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: have been able to create with A Xavian harris, Type,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: yeah but never a. Consideration had three arrests when he
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: was in. College some people had him graded as like
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: the fiftieth mess player in the. Draft he didn't get
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: drafted at. All it wasn't just The, seahawks who you,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: know climbed the top Of Moral.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Mountain it was every.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Team they got up, there and Every National Football league
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: team was either right behind them or at least seeing
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: the merits in the path that they were taking to
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the top of that. Mountain and nobody Took Xavian. Harris,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: yeah LIKE i, said and some mock drafts out there
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: they were talking about certainly day, two A day two,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: pick even with all of the red, flags and every
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: single national thirty two organization said, no we don't want that. Guy, yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: yeah and so they didn't take. Him so it's IT'S
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: i think it's. GREAT i think THAT i think that
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: that's what you should be, after AND i THINK i
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: think it's terrific that We're, no we're not really in
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: this mode right now in The National Football league of
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: get me the guy with speed and, power AND i
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: don't care about anything else BECAUSE i can coach him.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Up there's a lot more Of, Now i'd kind of
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: like to have the guy who's already, skilled loves, football
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: AND i don't have to worry about when he goes
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: home after, practice.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Tadda believe it or, not that helps your, team.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Right why were we not doing? That it was out
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: of pure? Ego sure that's what it. Was oh, well,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: yeah they couldn't control, him BUT i can. No now
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have millions of dollars in his pocket and
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and it's going to be even more difficult.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: To control him and contain. Him SO i love.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: IT i love it for the, league AND i certainly
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: love it for The. Seahawks AND i really love that
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: The seahawks seem to be ahead of the.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: League and doing.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: This, yeah AND i like your point about development, too
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: because it's not just About, okay you want to finish product.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Already you could still develop even if you are an
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: older prospect as. WELL i also think the narrative around
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: those kind of guys that maybe have trubled pasts that
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you can coach them up and get the most out
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: of them is a little bit skewed because the guys
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: who end up being more, coachable believe it or, not
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: are the academics and the guys that maybe stayed in
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: one place for all four years and you, know end
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: up being the high character, guys and those are the
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  Speaker 2: guys you can actually get more out, of even if
• 21:20
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• 23:59
  Speaker 4: talked earlier in the latest episode Of The emersons about
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: how this numbers crunch is going to work itself.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Out, Well Bryce miller is not. REALLY i, mean they
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: can stretch.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: This out a little while they've got an ability to
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: buy some. Time there's still a belief that he's a
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: couple weeks. Away that's three. Starts, okay so three. Starts
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Luis castill could prove a lot, Starts Emerson hancock could
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: prove a. Lot Emerson ancock could slide back to The
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Emerson hancock we've known in the, past and maybe it
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: ends up making it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Easier you, know when the time.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Comes so they've got a chance to just, like all, Right,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: bryce just take your. Time let's make sure you're. RIGHT
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: i think in his last outing he threw just an
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: inning and two thirds in the. INNING i don't think
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: he had a lot of. Success think he gave up
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of. Traffic but they're not necessarily worried about.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: That they're just trying to get his work, in trying
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: to get his velocity, up which was at ninety eight
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: miles per, hour and they're trying to of, course you,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: know build up his arm, strength is conditioning so that
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: when he gets here that you've got a starting, pitcher
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: they can, go you, know six seven innings if you
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: need him to get. There so that's what they were
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: doing With, bryce AND i don't think they're in any.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Rush but have we left him out of this conversation
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: as possibly he's the guy.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: That comes back to the. BULLPEN i, Mean rice didn't
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: have a great year last.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Year now he was dealing with, injuries and he was
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: pitching through, injuries and then by the end of the,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: SEASON i mean he was our best pitcher in the
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: playoffs a year.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Ago, yeah he.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Was SO i was expecting really big things out Of
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: bryce think he. WAS i know the organization was as.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Well and yet you now have this sudden numbers. Crunch
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: you don't really want to Demote Luis, castillo and you
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: don't really want to step On Emerson, ancock who's been
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: arguably your best starting pitcher so far this. Year he's
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: at least in the conversation so you're already buying time
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: by just taking your time With bryce through the reab.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Process could you buy a little bit more time by
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: bringing him? Up and he's the bullpen. PIECE i, mean
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: there's a chance anders that could be Without Matt brash for.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: A little, while you, know based on what you know we.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Learn About Matt brash and whatever that injury is that
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: he suffered. Yesterday good thing is that it doesn't sound
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: like it's an arm, injury but even a labor or
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: an oblique as we know What bryce, yep could keep
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: you out for a couple of. Months so you're you
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: might have a hole to fill there in your. Bullpen
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: AND i wonder if that is something that we should
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: explore With bryce and his.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: TALENTS i, MEAN i know he'd be a great. RELIEVER
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: i know he'd be a great.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: RELIEVER i don't know IF i want to put him
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: there Because i'd rather him be a great.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Starter.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah and you know we've seen this With Emerson
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: hancock last year as. Well that's where he started to
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of success once they put him
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: in that. ROLE i do, see you, know know a
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: lot of. TALK i think this is before The Matt brash.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Injury now without, HIM i think the six man rotation
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: is kind of out of the picture in my, head
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: because you now need an extra reliever, anyway Because Matt
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: brash is going. Down So i've been.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Really bothered if they went to a six man. ROTATION
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: i Didn't now you're messing with. Everybody, YEAH i.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Didn't absolutely hate it as much AS i usually do
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: BECAUSE i normally don't really like, it BUT i still
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: would not be a huge fan of, it and, now especially,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: no Because Matt brash is. Down it's there's a couple
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of ways to go about. This you could do like
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the Whole phantomil thing With Luis. Castillo if you really
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: feel like something's off and you need to give him
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a, REST i give him like
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, off something like, that bringing Once
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Bryce miller's. READY i do think the idea of kind
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: of ramping Up Bryce miller in the bullpen makes a
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: lot of, sense and especially if we haven't talked about a.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Lot, Yeah, yeah.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: He certainly has this stuff THAT i think he'd be
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: a hell of a weapon out of the.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Bullpen.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah of, course you also can't just use, him you,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: know in high leverage one inning at a. Time he'd
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: have to be like a two inning reliever for, you
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: because you can't let you're working on getting him up
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: his pitch count, up not. Down, yeah, Exactly and you
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: certainly don't want to use him as a long. Reliever
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: long relievers are guys that mop up in the modern,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: game and so that's not the role THAT i want him.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: In but is there you, know we've talked a lot
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: about Demoting. Castillo we've talked a lot about the possibility
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: that they have options With emerson and so that seniority,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: wise that would just put him back down into.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: COMA i hate that. OPTION i don't like that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Either and yet we haven't spent a lot of time
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: wondering is that something for the time being That Bryce,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: miller is that a role that he could fill as
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: some sort of two inning specialist for a little while.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Until everything becomes.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Clearer If castillo, continues we get another struggle bus a
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: month Of, castillo then it's going to be.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Obvious.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: YEAH i, mean the only thing that's keeping him in
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: the rotation right now is him and the organization saying
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: he's just proven it so many. Times why would we abandon.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: It he's in a. Slump let's give him a chance
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: to get out of that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Point and as of right, now if no one else,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Right Bryce miller's, hurt, right, well there is one other
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: guy his name and, yeah who might be better than
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: all of. That, yeah right, now he might be better than
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: all of, them which is, weird but it's.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: True SO i don't. Know i'm sure they're exploring every.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Possibility But bryce looks like in the meantime he's still
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks away from being activated one way
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: or the.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Other but if he was a, reliever he could probably
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: activate him. Sooner that's, again and that's another good.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Point you could bring him in, now and that's how
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: you ramp him, up not Having uh, yeah he.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Could pitch, Three he could Pitch brash's role and then
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: go throw more.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Bullpen especially If castillo continues to. Struggle you wouldn't have
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to leave him out there just to be, like all,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: right just get, five even if it costs seven. Runs
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you could be, like, hey you give a couple and
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't look. Good Bring Bryce miller in for two, innings three,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: innings SO i don't.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Know or maybe just steps into The brash.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Roll, yeah and then he works, afterwards just a longer bullpen,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: afterwards just goes back out and.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: THROWS i don't, KNOW i don't. Know i'm Just i'm
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: trying to spitball. There.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Two BUT i have a Feeling Bryce miller could do
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: The Matt brash AND i have a Fielding Matt brash
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: is going to be out for longer than ten, days
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: just based on the way that he looked. Well but
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: he did Say matt did say that he didn't want
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: to be taken.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Out of the. Game so that's a good.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Sign, yeah all, Right and as for next next as
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: The Kansas City, Royals and, LOOK i, MEAN i know
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: The mariners got off to a rough. START i kept
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: trying to point out to people that a lot of
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: teams with high expectations are off the worse starts than
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: what The mariners got off to The Boston Red, sox for,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: example The Toronto Blue jays are still two games under five.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Hundred The Philadelphia phillies are nine games under five, Hundred.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Mets The mets are ten games under five. Hundred but
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: The Kansas City royals are coming in town starting On.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Friday they were expecting to win the division this, year
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: and they're off to a twelve and eighteen start so
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: far this. Season so things haven't gone exactly swimmingly For Kansas.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: City you hope they don't get well starting On. Friday
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Bobby Witch junior had not hit a home run UNTIL
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: i think it was second to two games. Ago it
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: was his first home run of the entire. SEASON i,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: mean they're coming into town and that's really all you
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: think about when you get ready to face The Kansas City.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Royals they have one of the best five players In
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Major League baseball all around In Bobby Witch, junior and
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: you just hope he's not heating up at the worst
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: possible time for.
• 31:40
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• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Selfish, YEAH i mean He's caesus to Stud it's just
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: it is what it. Is you're gonna watch a shortstop that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Can we talked ABOUT jp. Earlier, defensively this guy is not.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: That he is the opposite of. That he has an unlimited.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Range it seems like he gets to. Everything he has
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: a great, arm he's a great, Speed he's start to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: get the. Power he already has two home runs, now
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: so even though he just had his first a couple
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: of days ago he hit a SECOND i think it was,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Yesterday so IT'S i agree with. YOU i think this
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: may be a tough time to be facing The, royals but,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: hey maybe they need to come back down to earth
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit too after their what six.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Game winning, streaks something like that five game winning streak The, royals.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: They're twelve and. EIGHTEEN i don't think they've had a
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: five game winning.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Streak, no they.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: Were they their last, call they did have a four
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: game Winning that's, okay, right you're, Right SO i guess
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: they have been playing.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Better as a. Blake. Yeah, finally oh is for.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Omit If Brendan donovan's coming back on the home stand
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: AND i kind of get the impression as early as,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: tomorrow then we can Omit Luis Leo revos from the
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: starting lineup going forward for a.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: While and this is. Good this is good for everybody.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Involved it's going to be great to Get donovan, back
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: and it's going to be great to Get leo back
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: into the utility role where he.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Belongs and So i'll.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: ADMIT i was getting a little tired of seeing him
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: play every, day even THOUGH i like him and he
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: obviously has a little bit of a clutch gene in.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Him he.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: DOES i think he's much better suited to be in
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: a utility, role and that's the role that he went
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: into spring training trying to. Claim so he won that
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: job back in spring. Training Maybe Master boney's injury contributed to,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: that but you, know he's you, know you've had to
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: put him in the starting lineup here With donovan out
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: because we really didn't have another third base option in
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: the organization. Apparently and so not only do you Get
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: donovan back and we get him back in the top
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: of the, lineup we also get our utility player, back
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: we Get Leo revas, Back so it's kind of a
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: two for one.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And the role he should be as you mentioned, earlier,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: right AND i like him coming in as like a
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: defensive substitute late in a, game a pinch, runner but
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: actually ended up working out really really well for The
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Cole young game winning hit because he's the one who
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: stole second base and that would have been just one
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: run single instead of a two run single Without Leo
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: revas coming in to pinch run for Dom canzon. Yesterday
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: so that's a little underrated part of the. Game BUT
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: i think that's the exact role he should, be so,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: YEAH i agree with.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: You all.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Right last, thing just, QUICKLY p is for a. Podcast
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: as people may not, realize but a lot of you.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Do anders AND i do an off season podcast Called,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: stove and there's just been a lot of people that have,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: said can you do it during the regular, SEASON i,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: mean why don't you do anything during the regular. Season,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Well anders AND i put our heads together and we're
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: gonna do something starting. Today AND i don't know if
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: we're gonna do it.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Bi weekly or, Monthly, yeah something around.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: That right now, though we're just gonna call it the.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: THIRTIETH i like.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: It the thirtieth is we just the thirtieth of every
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: month we do a, podcast and that way we kind
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: of update all of our. Thoughts, yeah on where The mariners.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: ARE i think there's no point in doing it once a.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Month we'll probably end up doing it twice a. Month,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: sure so it might the name might become the fifteenth
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: and the, thirtieth but nonetheless good. Name, yeah we're going
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: To we're going to start that today after the show is.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Over so for those that have been asking for, that
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: we appreciate.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: It thank.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: You, yeah nice to hear and then, secondarily we've heard
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: you and we're going to put something, together so that
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: should be out a little bit later on. Today all,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Right coming up next on our, program THE Nba playoffs
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: are going pretty. Well it's been, entertaining AND i probably
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: owe THE nba a little bit of an apology because
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: the first round has been a lot more entertaining THAN
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: i thought it would. Be but obviously we've got other
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: things to fix with The National Basketball association before The
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: sonics take the court, Again so we'll talk about one
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: of those things. Next On Sports radio ninety three point THREE.
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  Speaker 6: Basketball it's not quite the same, song but, Yes bascape
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  Speaker 6: Bow Chuck baladander's hurst with, You ashley IS i went
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: on a field trip with her.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Daughter what was your best field? Trip when you Were,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: oh good.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Question i'm gonna start with the show with and then
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: we had all that. NONSENSE i actually went on.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: ONE i think it was like third or fourth grade
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: where to The museum Of, Flight and they did like
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: a whole simulation on going To, mars which was really.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Cool everyone had like specific. Roles it was really. Cool
• 36:47
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• 36:50
  Speaker 2: did it, there but it WAS i definitely remember that
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  Speaker 2: seared in my.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Head, fancy, yeah look at.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: You it's like all the mathematics and everything obviously dialed
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: down for a third.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Grade, yeah we.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Didn't have things like. That, yeah it was, like we're
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: gonna go to the. Cowbarn it's good field.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Trip, yeah let's head on over to the wheat.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Field pack of sack, lunch, Kids we're going to the wheat.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Field what'd you learn?
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: There, oh, well how bread is. Made, hey that's valuable.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: EXACTLY i found out one other thing about field. Trips
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: it's not it doesn't go over well.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: When you crash.
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  Speaker 6: One.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Really, yeah you don't say as an adult, male where
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you just show up and you've got a sack lunch
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and you just try to blend in like at a,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: wedding like wedding washers with.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Them.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah Field Trip crashers was a movie that never made
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: it To. Hollywood it just was a little too.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Creepy what do you think back about how Creepy Wedding
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: crashers actually?
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Is even though.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Great, movie great, movie very, funny And wilson, classic but
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: when you step back and you're, like.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: That's pretty creepy what they were.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Doing, yeah pretty much just, liars ye, know and using
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: a wonderful it's supposed to be some sort of sacred.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Ceremonies be.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Liars but, yeah a lot better than field Field Trip.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: CRASHERS i don't think Owhen wilson And Vince bond signed
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: up for that. One probably.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Not, yeah really hard for a fifty four year old
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: man to show up with a sack lunch and then
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: pretend like he's.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Just part of the.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Class, yeah, yeah that didn't work. Out oh you, know
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: it's what time of year it. Is it's field trip.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: SEASON i had a nickel for every time that thing went.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: South all, right, well it IS nba playoff. Times Spencer
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: hawes is going to join us at nine. O'clock we've
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: already had him on to preview THE nba. Playoffs last,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: year we had him on every week to just talk
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: about THE Nba. Playoffs so it looks like we're going
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: to get to do that again this, year so you're
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: excited about. That so he's coming up at nine. O'clock
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: AND i got to give THE nba some credit here on,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: this because even When spencer was, here it just kind
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: of felt like we all thought that the first round
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: was just going to be so, chalking, yeah that you
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: just go ahead to advance. Everybody it might end up
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: turning out that way, anyway the chalk might end up.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Surviving but it has been. Entertaining. Certainly denver has had
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: it taken to them By minnesota to this, point they're
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: on the.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Brink, boy if The lakers choke a three zero, lead Woo.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Lakers not only could choke a three zero, lead but
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: With Kevin. DURANT i, mean The rockets are now saying
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: they'd rather play Without durant for goodness. Sake so that
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Was that's been an unexpected sort of series to this.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: POINT i Think cleveland's going to, emerge But toronto's given
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: them everything that they can. Handle atlanta gave The knicks
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: more than they can. Handle philadelphia's hanging around With boston And.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: DETROIT a one seed could be on the verge of
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: being knocked. Out so THE nba playoffs first ROUND i
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: thought was just going to be a four gone. Conclusion
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: we were gonna have a lot of four, game five games.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Series but it looks like we're gonna go to the
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: distance on a lot of these at least six games
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: on a lot of these series in the first.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Round SO i do have to give them a little
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: bit of a credit for.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: That but in an era in which they made news
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: with their NEW nba lottery system proposal that they, have,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: YEAH i believe they just need to get rid of the.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Lottery all it does is scream to me, like, Well,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: ANDREWS i already think they rig, it and and so
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: this to me just, screams this gives us an easier
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: chance to rig.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: It that's what it screams to, me because it could be.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Anyone, yeah and SO i don't really understand why teams
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: tank when the lottery's.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Rigged, ANYWAY i don't.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: REALLY i don't really even get that aspect of The
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: National Basketball. Association but then, again not everybody believes that that's.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: True Adam silver apparently is one of.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Those really you, say the commissioner of THE nba doesn't
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: believe in THE nba is rigged at, LEAST i should, say.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah a convincing he spends a convincing yarn about, It
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: i'll tell you that he. Does but the other thing
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: is load, management which has not been discussed during this.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: PROCESS i don't have as big a problem with load
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: management BECAUSE i think it's good. STRATEGY i think it's
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: strategy to make sure your team is at its best
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: come playoff. TIME i think The Orlando magic a pretty
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: good example of. This they went into this past season
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: and people thought that they were going to be one
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: of the best teams in The Eastern. Conference they were
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: believed to be better Than detroit on paper before the season,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: started and so even though they end up as the
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: eight seed and had to play their way in to the,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: PLAYOFF i THINK i don't know who was that pointed
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: it out. Yesterday we shouldn't be surprised by this Because
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: orlando is a really good team and may have approached
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: the season just like, well as long as we get, In,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: yeah as long as we get in and we're at
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: we're there at. Best SO i think a lot of
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: people have long believed that THE nba playoff is too,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: large and now that we've added these play in, games
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: now it's even. Larger it's just like we were talking
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: about earlier with college. Basketball if this is your, baby
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: this is the only thing that basketball fans universally enjoy
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: about your league is the. Playoffs why are you messing
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: up so? Much, yeah go back to the sixteen team be,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: format because even that was way too predictable because of
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: the nature of the. Sport it was way too. Predictable
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: but if you shrink the number of teams, in then
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: guess what teams are going to have to play their
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: best players more to get into the. Playoff does that
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: not make? Sense, yeah, yeah it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Does so then the whole the load management thing would
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: be right, yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Right all, Right so we're working on changing the lottery
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: to you, know fix the tanking. Thing and then if
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: we want to fix the load management, thing then, THAT i,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: mean shrink in the playoffs even, back even reduce it
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: even further than what it was, before take it down to,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: twelve and then teams will have to play their best
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: players because they won't just, assume, well nearly everyone makes the.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Playoffs are we really you Think miami's gonna get in
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: ahead of?
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Us, no how many teams are not tanking or not
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: making the.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Playoffs, like, seriously, yes great. QUESTION i think the answer
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: might be.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Zero it might be zero this year, ANYWAY i don't
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: think that's normally the. Case, sure but, yeah it might
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: be one one on.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: That and that's the team that everyone's, like what are you?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Doing you got to do one or the, other, right
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: can't be in the. MIDDLE i get rid of the.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Lottery i'd incentivize winning amongst the losers at the end
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: of the.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Season, yeah AND i would. Shrink and this is for the.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Best this is for the best interest of the, game
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: of the, sport of the of the, league not the
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: best financial. Interest but in terms of just trying to
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: get rid of some of these things they've Given Adam
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: silver such. Headaches you're gonna have to do some difficult.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Things you're gonna have to maybe not make every single
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: dollar that you can possibly. Make maybe you could accept
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: the fact that you've got overpaid. Players you've got eight
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: men making thirty two million dollars a. YEAR i think
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: they make enough. Money, okay so let's just fix the,
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: product and let's fix it before The sonics, return BECAUSE
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: i don't want to have to spend our time talking
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: about this stuff all, Right spencer All is gonna join us,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: next plus your cash word as. Well It's chuck And
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Buck Sports radio ninety three point THREE kjrfm