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Bobby Hillz on Music's Role, Live Performances, and Navigating the Independent Scene · The Scene Projects

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  You've tuned in to Love Noise, and today we're vibing with the one and only b hills, artist,
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  producer, and a creative powerhouse.
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  From beats to emotions, he brings raw energy, real talk, and that signature sound that shakes
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  the soul.
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  Let's make some noise for b Hill.
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  This program is part of the Scene Project podcast network.
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  Scene Project features interviews with independent musicians, comedians, and artists
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  Welcome in to another exciting episode of the scene.
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  I'm your host Bubba Starts, and you are watching Love Noise.
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  We are here with our cohost, Wild Willie.
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  What's up, you guys?
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  How are you today, Bubba?
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  I am good, brother.
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  I am good.
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  And back with us again, our brother Boo Boo.
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  I have returned.
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  I'm doing great.
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  How are you guys doing tonight?
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  Man, I'm excited to see you, dude.
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  It it's been a few weeks since we've had you on.
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  I know you've had some things happening, but it's all good.
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  We are back together and happy to have you.
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  We're also happy to have this man with us.
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  Welcome to the show, Bobby Hills.
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  What's happening, Bobby
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  Hills?
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  I
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  appreciate it, man.
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  I appreciate that intro too.
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  You know, that was it was well written, you know, and I appreciate y'all having me, man.
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  It's it's a honor to be here.
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  No.
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  This is gonna be great, man.
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  I was blessed to come on your stream last week.
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  I know you had Willie on there.
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  You played some of my music, played my music video out there for all your fans.
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  And, man, I I just love what you guys are doing down there.
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  So kind of off the top because we haven't really gotten to speak with you before.
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  I kinda just wanna give you the floor for a minute here, and let us tell, you know, tell
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  our people about what you do and what you guys are doing down there in the Saint Louis area.
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  Alright.
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  Well, I've been out here in Saint Louis for about three years.
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  I'm originally from Houston.
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  I grew up down there, and I I I really focused on music a lot whenever I was a kid growing up
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  and stuff.
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  But once I was, like, 20 and I had kids and stuff, it was, like, one of them things where I
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  had to kinda put put it to the side and stuff.
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  So but about, like, three years ago, me and my baby mama split up.
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  So I had the opportunity to come up here to St.
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  Louis to work at General Motors.
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  So whenever I came up here, was, like, one of those things, like, like, a lot of I feel like
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  it doesn't really get spoken about that much that whenever a father and the mother don't get
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  along, then the, you know, father gets pushed out the household.
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  So it's like your whole life is, like, turned upside down.
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  You went from, like, being a father, your whole life being about this, about always being there
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  every day with the kids, so now you have this void to fill.
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  So whenever I came up here, I was, you know, dealing with depression and stuff.
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  So I decided to kind of I was like, what did I really, like, had a passion for before I you
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  know, all that?
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  So so I just started going into music and, you know, just pushing music.
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  And then I started doing the streams where artists send in their music, and we play the
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  artist's music.
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  And and it just kinda went from there.
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  You know?
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  I I didn't realize that that was part of your story, man.
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  I'm sorry that you had to go through that.
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  I've lived through that myself.
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  I got a 13 year old boy still battling with his mom.
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  We ain't been together in twelve years, man.
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  Yeah.
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  But it's tough.
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  It's really hard to go from that, especially when, you know, you've been together for a long
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  time and you're in that routine.
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  Right?
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  And and, really, any kind of change like that is huge, but then you involve your babies.
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  Right?
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  You got your kids, your heart, and your soul, and and I know what that feeling is like, man.
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  So my heart goes out to you, dude.
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  That's a tough a tough freaking a tough thing for anybody to go through.
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  I I feel it every bit.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's almost like it's almost like the music is it feels like, you can't fill that void, but it
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  fills the void of not being depressed.
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  Like, it's almost like a like, I would almost say it's kinda like everything I'd be doing
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  with the music from the streams and all that, it's almost turned into, like, an disorder or
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  an obsession to distract myself from, you know, thinking.
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  Because, you know, idle time, you just sit around feeling bad about yourself.
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  And, also, you know, y'all know that music is a way to express.
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  You know?
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  And there's nothing better than making a song and then somebody else, like, you know, feeling
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  what you was going through or or understanding you.
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  You know what mean?
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  Because I feel like I could I could express myself and people can understand me more
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  through my music than I could sit down and really talk to somebody, you know, unless the
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  conversation just goes because sometimes, you know, you don't always you don't always know
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  the words to say, like, how you feeling.
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  But with music, even if it's not really the words, it could be the frequency.
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  You know?
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  Because I make beats and stuff too.
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  So a lot of it you know, like, that's one of my main thing when making beats is, like,
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  frequencies.
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  You know?
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  Like because it's like whenever you hear that note come on the song and it it, like, makes
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  get you goosebumps or you feel something, you know, before, you know, those are the
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  frequencies.
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  A lot of these people that make beats, they're they're so focused on just the beat or making
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  your head knob or, like, putting samples and stuff like that.
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  Like like, frequencies really, like, took especially with all this AI music because
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  that's one thing that AI can't can't copy is frequencies because frequencies is something
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  that's a human you know, that humans have.
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  You know what I mean?
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  I feel like at least, like, vibes and stuff like that.
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  You know what I mean?
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  But
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  Yeah.
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  The vibration is a frequency.
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  That's why we vibe with each other when you get in that that vein with people.
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  And we just had that.
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  Willie was on with me for our Momo meetup.
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  We do those every Wednesday at 7PM.
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  My wife works at the bowling alley on Wednesday night.
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  So, like, Wednesday night is my it's like, I don't have anything going on.
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  And a much good you are like, I don't hey.
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  I'm like, what the hell am I gonna do?
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  Because I'm dad and and and I'm a husband, and I have all this time that's taken up that when
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  she leaves the house to go work this one night a week, I'm like, well, I'm
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  gonna have
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  stay on camera.
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  Right?
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  I might as well go sit in the lab and connect with as many people as we can.
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  And tonight, we had a gal on shout out to Kat Blue there in Iowa that she just seen me going
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  live on my Facebook.
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  I try to get on what I'm doing my walks in the morning or now it's been in the afternoon.
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  It's been cold and wet here the
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  last few mornings.
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  I've been seeing that.
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  Where are you from?
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  Where are you where are you at?
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  So I'm in rural South Dakota, man.
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  Southeast South Dakota.
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  We're out in the middle of nowhere.
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  So this is my connection to music people.
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  Right?
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  There's, like, there's not that many musicians out here.
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  There's definitely nobody that's attacking it the way that I am.
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  And now my music career is kind of in the sidecar next to this podcasting thing that
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  we've been doing.
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  But I realized that as a connector of people and someone who loves the network with other
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  artists and doesn't mind putting the spotlight on them.
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  Right?
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  Like, it ain't about it ain't about competition.
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  Like, I don't care.
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  You got songs.
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  Cool.
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  Ain't nobody making money out here in the music business unless you're at the very top.
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  And even those people, you know, millions of streams a million streams net you, like,
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  $1,500, and that's not even net.
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  That's just what you're getting kicked back on the stream.
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  So it's like, what what's the point of trying to drive that?
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  Yeah.
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  That's definitely something that I feel like that needs to be taken back to the drawing
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  board is, like especially with contracts and stuff.
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  Is this, like because a lot of the even with contracts with artists, it's still set up to,
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  like, the streams or or album sales and all this stuff, And that's not where there's no
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  money in that anymore.
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  You know what mean?
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  So it's gotta the only you know, I'm still trying to figure out how to make money doing
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  this.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Because even, like, with doing shows and, I guess, with sponsors and stuff and, like, how
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  you're saying with the with how y'all do the stream and you do the podcast.
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  Like, I feel like as a as a artist, that's like you have to do that nowadays.
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  Like like, if you wanna it used to be, like, a artist.
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  The only thing that you really knew about the artist was, like, the CD cover whenever you
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  purchased it and you you know what I mean?
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  But now it's like you it's so, like, everybody wants to know everything about, like, with
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  social media in the way that everything is.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like, it's like you have to put yourself out there and you have to, like, you know, sell
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  yourself at with selling your music.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Well, you gotta be a real person, and you and people want connection, man, in a world that is
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  just so disconnected, you know, which is which is ironic.
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  Right?
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  Because we're more connected than we've ever been, but people don't, like, talk to other
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  human beings ever.
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  Yeah.
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  They don't you know, they're just watching on their phone, and you're just consuming these
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  short bits of information with, you know, the reels and everything.
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  And that's not an effective way to communicate with anyone.
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  So that's why I've been I've been loving this, you know, doing doing interviews.
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  And I ain't on streams for four hours straight like you are,
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  but I only that's just because I only stream once a week.
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  Like, I also have a I also do a radio podcast.
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  I don't know where the fly oh, here it is.
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  Right here.
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  It's at My City, My Music Radio is stronger than ever, and I do that every Tuesday.
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  That's actually, like, where we have the artists.
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  They come in.
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  We have a studio at the radio station, and and we sit down and we talk like like a, you know,
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  Joe Rogan style podcast where it's, like, you know, face to face and locked in and stuff like
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  that.
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  The stream is more the stream I started the stream started with doing that, with doing
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  interviews and stuff.
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  And I still do interviews with people that, like, you know, don't live around or can't come
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  up and stuff, but the stream is more turned into, like like I like to think of it as, like
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  like, it's almost like chill like, your friend just chilling on the porch and y'all listen to
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  music.
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  Like, the way that we just chop it up.
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  Like, whenever y'all is on there, it's not real professional.
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  We're just chopping it up, talking.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Playing music, bullshit, and, like, stuff like that.
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  You know what I mean?
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  It's it's not as professional.
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  You know what I mean?
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  But It's
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  a hang.
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  It's just a hang.
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  Just chilling.
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  So It really is.
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  Nothing.
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  So four hours goes by fast whenever you're just chilling with your friends.
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  These are the people that, you know, I hang out with regardless.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like so it's like you know?
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  Yeah.
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  I end up hanging out for two hours that night, by the
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  way.
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  You know?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I was like, I'm gonna go.
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  I'm gonna go, and then they would play another song.
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  And I was like, no.
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  Let me shoot this song up there.
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  So before the night it was over with, I had submitted a bunch of songs.
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  Like Yeah.
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  And I'm not an artist, so it was like you, Fire White, different artists I've known.
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  And and they were all great artists.
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  You know?
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  And that's another thing with the country music scene is I like I like seeing that taken off
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  how it is.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Because it's like a new avenue and you know what I mean?
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  It it I like it, though.
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  It's definitely dope.
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  You know?
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  Well and, Bobby, for you, like, the as a rapper, you know, in that hip hop world, it's
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  been the age of the independent artists over there for fifteen, twenty years.
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  Right?
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  You don't get all the way back to Afro Man, really.
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  I mean, the the man selling tapes out of his trunk.
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  Well, now that's every artist.
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  Right?
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  Like, in every genre.
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  And I've always kinda been someone who I I mean, I made my money always busking.
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  Like, I was out with a guitar on a street corner playing Yeah.
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  I love not, like, in the Ed Sheeran way looking for a record deal or John Mayer, I know, was,
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  you know, famously, like, you know, in the subway playing when he was discovered.
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  I was just trying to make a buck and feed myself.
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  But that's the greatest but that's the greatest thing, though, is because, like, people who
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  actually perform.
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  Like, you know what mean?
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  Because that's, like, my main thing.
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  Like, I'm a good like, I don't wanna say I'm a good performer, but, like, that's, like, where
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  like, I whenever I go and I do I do a show, like, I just have the instrumental playing.
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  I'm rapping all the songs.
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  Like you know?
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  And that's, like, how you're talking about, like, going to the street corner playing guitar
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  because that's people are feeling your vibe.
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  They're feeling your frequency, and and and you're feeling it too.
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  Like, nothing's a better feeling than whenever you're performing and you're just seeing that.
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  They're looking at you with their mouth all open.
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  Like you know what I mean?
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  And they're just loving it.
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  Like, that's that's the best film in the world.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like, to me as a artist, that's but a lot of these artists, they can't it's different
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  because they don't sound the same as they do.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like, without all the plug ins, without a computer, A lot of people, they can make music
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  on a on a laptop or on a computer, but whenever it comes out to actually performing or
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  performing that song, they can't do it because that's not it they're you know what I mean?
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  It's so, you know, so much auto tune, so much plug ins, so much which I don't, you know, I'm
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  not hating on nobody.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Well, it's easy to, like, rap a verse and then, like, go back and you're editing that and then,
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  like, to go into the the studio and then to do the chorus.
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  It's a whole different animal when you're doing that song front to back.
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  Right?
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  Like, you're performing the song as a total piece now, and and that's a lot different.
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  Yeah.
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  And, like, a thirty minute set of doing it.
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  You know what I mean?
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  That's all.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, only one on the stage.
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  You know, you don't have the band to kinda pick up the slack.
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  You know what I mean?
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  It's all you you run out of breath.
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  You everybody looking at you funny.
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  Like Yeah.
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  I mean, I just learned what it's like to wrap a thirty minute set just a couple months ago,
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  and, man, that is something else.
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  And especially especially because it don't matter how much you practice it.
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  Like, you could sit there in your room and practice it.
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  But whenever you get on the stage and your nerves because the nerves affect your
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  breathing.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like A 100%.
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  Or just like how I was saying, like, whenever people start feeling it, you're damn.
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  People are locking into me.
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  Then you get excited, then you get too loud, then you start you know what I mean?
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  All them type of things make it where you know what I mean?
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  Like, it definitely affects it.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Nerves are a big thing.
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  You know?
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  And as a sound guy, I see that a lot.
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  And, also, I see them once, and I'm not hating on anyone that records their tracks and their
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  vocals are on their tracks.
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  And sometimes it gets where their vocals don't line up because just because of the live
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  performance don't match because
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  And and that's became, like, the norm now, especially with, like, hip hop is where it's
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  not you're not paying to go see them perform the song.
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  You're you're paying to see them stand on stage while the song is being played, and they and
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  they're just kinda yelling over some words or dancing.
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  It's not because imagine, like, in February, like, whenever, like or, like, the nineties and
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  stuff, like, if a rapper went up and did that, like, back in the era of, like, Nas and Wu Tang
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  and you know, and all those type of people.
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  If somebody went up there and did that, like, they it would that worked.
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  You know what I mean?
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  But now that's, like, the normal.
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  Now it's like that's the normal.
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  Everybody everybody I I do these shows out here in Saint Louis, and I go up there and perform
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  at the beat, and everybody looks at me like they see they're like, I ain't never seen
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  nobody do that before.
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  Yeah.
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  Know?
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  It's the normal, but, like, it ain't dope to do that.
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  Like, that's the normal, but that's not dope.
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  I I've been vibing with the real emcees doing rap over vocals movement.
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  Yeah.
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  Me
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  too.
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  I still am.
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  Me too.
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  And and if you're gonna do it, then then at least, like, you know, like, take out the main
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  verse vocals and leave just the ad libs.
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  I could see, like, leave the ad libs in the hook.
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  And then you know what I mean?
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  But at least spit your the verse part out.
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  Exactly.
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  You know?
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  We've been coaching up some
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  of these cats that we've been seeing because Willie Willie runs sound, and he's done it at a
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  couple of festivals this year down there in Missouri.
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  And, that's the first thing that I noticed because I'm a live guy.
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  Right?
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  Like, put me up there with a guitar and a live mic, man, and I'm I'm gonna roll and do my
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  thing.
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  And the first thing I know, if you're coming out and you have your you have vocals on your
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  tracks, like, I'm already already pulling back because I'm not hearing you.
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  Right?
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  Like, I could I I don't know what's you and what's just the track, and I'm not here to
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  listen to the radio.
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  If I wanted to hear your song, I just go on spot I mean, I don't use Spotify, but I'd go on
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  YouTube.
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  Know You what I mean, and find your track.
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  That's not what I'm here for.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And it and it makes it really hard as a sound guy because when they're just pretty much lip
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  syncing over their tracks.
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  People are like, I can't hear him.
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  I can't hear him.
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  And I was like, you won't be able to.
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  He's not he's not performing.
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  Well or even worse, Willie, they're like, I can't hear myself in the monitors.
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  Monitors, and you're like, well, yeah, that's because you are your vocals are in that trap.
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  What do you want me to do for you?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Because then they're like Yeah.
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  You turn the music down, and they're like, I can't hear it.
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  Well, you can either hear yourself or hear the music because if you turn the music up, you're
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  gonna drown out the live vocals.
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  And it as a sound guy, I I can't stand it.
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  I mean Yeah.
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  Just being honest.
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  Yeah.
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  And that's like me and Bubba, we talked to a guy the other day, and we're like, just do your
• 17:05
  tracks.
• 17:05
  Get rid of everything.
• 17:07
  Just do your tracks.
• 17:08
  Well and I wonder I mean, some of these cats are young.
• 17:11
  Right?
• 17:11
  And they're just starting off on their careers, and they've they've always like, now, like you
• 17:15
  said, they've seen it done that way by so many other people that they think that that's the
• 17:19
  way you do it, and nobody's ever stopped them and gone, yeah.
• 17:23
  No.
• 17:23
  That's not that's not cool.
• 17:25
  Like, that's not how it's done.
• 17:27
  Right?
• 17:27
  Well and it's the safe bet.
• 17:28
  You know?
• 17:29
  So you gotta think about it like a promoter or, like, their their management team and all that.
• 17:34
  You know what I mean?
• 17:34
  If they go up there and they just have the song playing and they could be drugged out or
• 17:39
  whatever, like most of them are nowadays, and it's not gonna matter because they're gonna you
• 17:43
  know, as long as the song keeps playing, doesn't start skipping, they're good.
• 17:45
  You know?
• 17:46
  But but whenever you go out there and you have the beat and you forget your words or something
• 17:50
  like that, you know what I mean, then you're putting more on the line.
• 17:53
  But at the same time, you gotta put stuff on the line to be able to really get that prize
• 17:56
  and have you know, and and capture people because because that's really to me as a
• 18:02
  artist, like, the performing part is, like, the ultimate high.
• 18:05
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 18:06
  Like, I ain't never been more high.
• 18:08
  And then and then the thing is about it, though, is is it just like the higher you get,
• 18:12
  the more you go like, the come down is bad.
• 18:16
  You know what mean?
• 18:16
  I I see that with being an artist too.
• 18:18
  It's like whenever I perform and I'm feeling and I'm riding that wave and I'm feeling good,
• 18:22
  I'm preparing for the show, then I get there and everything's good, but then next day, you
• 18:26
  go home and you go back to work, and you're just normal.
• 18:28
  And that shit that's depressing.
• 18:30
  Oh, damn.
• 18:32
  Yeah.
• 18:32
  I've
• 18:32
  been I've been
• 18:33
  I've been fainting
• 18:34
  for another show, man.
• 18:35
  That's all I want.
• 18:36
  And then
• 18:37
  you start fiending.
• 18:37
  You're like, man, I'm jonesing to do this next one, man.
• 18:40
  Exactly.
• 18:41
  Yeah.
• 18:41
  That's how you end up on tour, man, chasing it from town to town and performing for new
• 18:46
  people.
• 18:46
  And Yeah.
• 18:47
  I would love to be on tour if if I didn't have a job and all these bills and all this stuff
• 18:52
  hold me back.
• 18:53
  That's what holds me back because because, like, you know, like, even, like, at the
• 18:57
  position that I'm at, like, I'm not a big artist.
• 18:59
  So, like, the tours that I can go to are most of them are, like, open mic showcases but in
• 19:03
  different cities, which I love that.
• 19:05
  I like open mic showcases and doing stuff like that.
• 19:07
  You know what I mean?
• 19:08
  Especially, like, in front of new people because every time you do it in front of new
• 19:12
  people, you know what mean, they you know what I mean?
• 19:14
  Those are people that are really gonna, like, follow you and really gonna, like, fuck with
• 19:18
  you because you know what I mean?
• 19:19
  Like, if I do a show, I'm a stay the whole time.
• 19:21
  You know what I mean?
• 19:22
  Even if I go first, I'm a stay the whole time and watch all the all the other artists.
• 19:26
  You know what I mean?
• 19:27
  And all that.
• 19:27
  You know what I mean?
• 19:28
  Whenever like, I like performing first, honestly, because because I feel like there's
• 19:32
  more people there.
• 19:33
  You know?
• 19:34
  Because because everybody once everybody performs, all their people are leaving with
• 19:37
  them.
• 19:37
  You know what I mean?
• 19:38
  That's how these shows go.
• 19:39
  So so a lot of these headliner shows, it'll be, like, 10 people in the audience by the time the
• 19:43
  headliner's there.
• 19:44
  You know what I mean?
• 19:45
  So I'd rather be there whenever there's, like, 50 or, you know, meet people there or whatever.
• 19:48
  Like, you you're being seen more.
• 19:50
  You
• 19:50
  know?
• 19:51
  Exactly.
• 19:52
  Yeah.
• 19:52
  I love it, man.
• 19:54
  I'd also think artists realize that people don't realize that they can start they're
• 19:59
  starting to wake up and see when them artists are just playing their tracks and lip singing.
• 20:05
  Yeah.
• 20:06
  You know?
• 20:07
  I went to a different festival a while back that wasn't when I was doing.
• 20:11
  I just went to show support.
• 20:13
  And everybody's like, what is this?
• 20:16
  Karaoke?
• 20:17
  And I
• 20:17
  was like you know?
• 20:18
  And I was like, well, you know, you can't get mad at the sound guy when he's had to the
• 20:25
  track.
• 20:26
  He has to wait and you know?
• 20:29
  And what the artist does, it makes it hard all the way around because you get the fans that
• 20:33
  aren't happy.
• 20:34
  Yep.
• 20:35
  And then the fans and then they don't wanna come into shows no more.
• 20:38
  Like, that's that's why a lot of these shows don't be selling no more is because people
• 20:42
  don't it's a waste of money that's like, why would I go just like you said, I could go see
• 20:46
  that on YouTube.
• 20:47
  You know?
• 20:47
  A better version of it.
• 20:49
  You know what
• 20:49
  I mean?
• 20:50
  Just go watch Bobby on his stream and watch these cats and then we'll see their music video
• 20:54
  and be at home comfortably.
• 20:56
  Out for and hang out for the six hours.
• 20:58
  We're gonna be at the concert.
• 21:00
  Right.
• 21:00
  Well and COVID.
• 21:02
  And and I'm glad you said that too because because this is something I wanted to say too
• 21:05
  is because, like, I feel like COVID made everybody where they're, like, comfortable with
• 21:09
  being inside.
• 21:10
  Like, I think everybody already wanted that, but a lot of people, like you said, like, they
• 21:14
  don't wanna go to shows.
• 21:15
  They'd rather stay home.
• 21:16
  You know what I mean?
• 21:16
  And I have a a on that on the same thing I was talking about that my city, my music radio, I
• 21:22
  have an I have another show that I do every month.
• 21:25
  And I have my second episode coming on November 15, and it's the experience.
• 21:31
  But but the first episode was last month, and the show's called Behind the Streams.
• 21:37
  And what it is is it's a showcase and then and then an interview following.
• 21:42
  So the one right now, you can see it on YouTube, Behind the Stream, and it's a thirty
• 21:46
  minute showcase followed by a thirty minute interview.
• 21:49
  And and so, like, the showcase is a direct feed.
• 21:51
  Like, the mic's directly feed, so it's studio quality.
• 21:54
  You know what I mean?
• 21:55
  Like, the like, it's not like somebody just recording on their phone.
• 21:59
  Like, it's, like, multiple cameras and and just speaking through the mic with the recording and
• 22:03
  stuff, and then it's followed by interview.
• 22:05
  So so so that's, like, something that I was thinking because because it's almost like viral
• 22:11
  showcases.
• 22:12
  You know I mean?
• 22:12
  So then people, they could be home and they could watch the performances.
• 22:15
  You know what I mean?
• 22:16
  And see the performances and stuff like that without going out with you know, they can be
• 22:20
  just and they can watch it whenever they want.
• 22:22
  They don't gotta you know what I mean?
• 22:25
  Miss whatever.
• 22:27
  Yeah.
• 22:28
  I dig it, man.
• 22:29
  Well, we were talking about the high, of coming off coming off a show and being up there on
• 22:35
  stage.
• 22:35
  So the first track I wanna play yours tonight was high off life.
• 22:38
  Is that alright?
• 22:39
  Yeah.
• 22:40
  It's high off money.
• 22:41
  But High off money.
• 22:42
  Sorry.
• 22:42
  But yeah.
• 22:44
  Yeah.
• 22:44
  So so this song because I sent three songs, and, like, I just wanted to kinda show, like,
• 22:49
  myself as a artist.
• 22:49
  You know?
• 22:50
  So this one is I didn't make the beat on this one.
• 22:53
  This is just the beat that I I think I got it from, like, Beatstar or something like that.
• 22:57
  But but I just wanted to show, like, myself as, like, a rapper on this one, so that's why I
• 23:02
  sent this one in.
• 23:02
  But there's a video for this too.
• 23:05
  It's on YouTube, b hills high off money.
• 23:22
  Smoking on that diesel now.
• 23:23
  I'm so high I can't see the ground.
• 23:25
  So fly can't be seen around.
• 23:27
  So I will be leaving now.
• 23:28
  Smell like I've been held a pound.
• 23:30
  There's nothing you can tell me now.
• 23:32
  Let's just need another round.
• 23:33
  I see these evils all around.
• 23:35
  Calling leave the speakers loud.
• 23:37
  I'm chiefing on a reefer cloud till my eyes are bleeding out.
• 23:40
  Now you see what we about.
• 23:42
  Make it rain in the drought like a plane on a route or a train going south in my brain.
• 23:47
  There's no girl.
• 23:48
  There's no way to make it out.
• 23:50
  If you stay up on the couch watching days losing count, purple haze.
• 23:54
  Got my mind in a herbal maze.
• 23:56
  I'm trying to get my money right, but I ain't learned a thing.
• 23:59
  I'm sipping
• 24:00
  on a money spray.
• 24:01
  And I say what I wanna when I'm blazing marijuana.
• 24:04
  Got my
• 24:05
  I see.
• 24:06
  Got it feeling like a sonic getting hot off blood.
• 24:24
  I'm out of it.
• 24:25
  The base got this whole place wrapped.
• 24:27
  So you can hear us before we approach it.
• 24:31
  Got the perp.
• 24:32
  I'm about to go on and pour me up a potion.
• 24:35
  If it has to do with money, I'm a need my poorest poorest.
• 24:38
  I don't give fuck.
• 24:39
  I'm trying to make a fucking porch horse.
• 24:41
  Got the cameras up, guns just like a porch horse.
• 24:45
  Got the hammer tugged.
• 24:46
  I refuse to fucking forfeit.
• 24:48
  Tell me what you want.
• 24:49
  Is it really fucking worth it?
• 24:51
  Spitting all these letters and these words like a rule
• 24:54
  for me.
• 24:55
  Say what you wanna.
• 24:56
  I'm a blaze marijuana with my eyes so low.
• 24:59
  Got it feeling like a sonic getting high.
• 25:02
  Off money, better hide your money because I hydro money.
• 25:06
  Leave your eyes all bloody.
• 25:08
  Only smoke the finest grade.
• 25:10
  Top class, highest grade.
• 25:11
  No class, highest paid.
• 25:13
  Why ass my eyes are glazed?
• 25:14
  Oh, yeah.
• 25:15
  My mind is dazed.
• 25:16
  Been over a couple days.
• 25:18
  Stuffed up in this maze fucked up.
• 25:20
  It's just the same thing.
• 25:21
  So I jumped it through some throes.
• 25:23
  On them stunning shades.
• 25:24
  They're just happy to have new year.
• 25:26
  Hit the black stuff for days.
• 25:28
  Had it locked fucking safe.
• 25:29
  But shit wasn't the same.
• 25:59
  Off.
• 26:00
  Say what you wanna, I'm a blaze marijuana with my
• 26:04
  so low.
• 26:05
  Got it feeling like a sonic getting hot.
• 26:08
  Off money, better hype your money because I had drove money leave your eyes off.
• 26:13
  Say what you wanna, I'm a blaze marijuana with my eyes so low.
• 26:19
  Got it feeling like a son of getting hot off money, better hide your money because that
• 26:24
  hydro money leave your eyes off bloody.
• 26:34
  Yeah, man.
• 26:35
  Man.
• 26:36
  I love it, dude.
• 26:38
  Where I live, marijuana is legal.
• 26:40
  So
• 26:40
  We got medical we got medical here in South Dakota.
• 26:44
  It's all good.
• 26:45
  Yeah.
• 26:46
  Oh, yeah.
• 26:46
  It's all good.
• 26:47
  No, man.
• 26:48
  That's that's good.
• 26:49
  And the production level's high.
• 26:52
  It's good stuff, man.
• 26:53
  I love it.
• 26:54
  I appreciate it.
• 26:58
  What'd you think, boo boo?
• 27:00
  I I really liked it.
• 27:02
  Kinda reminded me of, like, a stoner Lil White.
• 27:05
  You know?
• 27:05
  Really had those vibes that kinda take me back to when I was in middle school and stuff
• 27:10
  listening to rap music and stuff when I first started getting into it really heavy.
• 27:16
  Oh, yeah.
• 27:16
  I appreciate it.
• 27:17
  Yeah.
• 27:19
  Yeah.
• 27:19
  That's like that was, like, one of the the first, like, singles that because I only been
• 27:23
  doing music again for, like, three years.
• 27:25
  So everything from, like, my stream to the podcast to my music, It's all just past three
• 27:31
  years since I've been up here.
• 27:32
  So, like, that was, like, one of them songs that that I had other songs that I wanted
• 27:37
  because, like, I'm I have a, like, a lot I'm more of, like like, I like art I like people to
• 27:42
  connect to my music.
• 27:43
  You know what I mean?
• 27:43
  But but I felt like that was, like, one of them songs I had to drop first in order to get
• 27:47
  people because it's almost like people, they have to kinda, like, like you to care about
• 27:51
  what you feel about something.
• 27:52
  So I feel like if I would've came out with, like, mushy breakup music, then they would've,
• 27:56
  you know, just been like, whatever.
• 27:57
  But you drop something like that, and then they're like, okay.
• 28:00
  At least, you know, we can see he can rap syllables and can put words together.
• 28:04
  You know?
• 28:05
  And then it's like Jay Z said, like, first, you have to have their ear, then you can get their
• 28:09
  heart.
• 28:09
  So that was, like, one of them type of songs that I wanted people to just you know?
• 28:14
  I don't wanna downgrade the song, but but you know I mean?
• 28:17
  Because I definitely like the song.
• 28:18
  You know?
• 28:18
  We got the video too for it.
• 28:19
  But but it was definitely one of them songs that I just almost made with the intent to be
• 28:24
  like, alright.
• 28:24
  So people are gonna like this.
• 28:26
  You know what mean?
• 28:27
  Instead of making something that I was like, I'm going through something.
• 28:29
  I'm feeling something.
• 28:31
  You know, I gotta let some out.
• 28:32
  It was more like, I gotta make something that people are gonna like.
• 28:34
  So I sat in the studio.
• 28:35
  I was like, alright.
• 28:36
  Well, people like weed, and people like money.
• 28:39
  And people like to be high, so we're high off money.
• 28:42
  Okay.
• 28:42
  Did anybody influence you to make like, was there any influence, like, sounds for that
• 28:47
  song?
• 28:48
  Any sounds that influenced you from people at all?
• 28:51
  No.
• 28:51
  Not really.
• 28:52
  I just heard the beat.
• 28:53
  And, like like, as a artist, like, I I really like like, I I I believe in, like, the muse.
• 28:59
  Like like, you know what I mean?
• 29:00
  Like like, the so so I believe that the song kinda should write itself.
• 29:03
  Like, every song that I made that that worked out good, it came together.
• 29:07
  It's like, you know, whenever you're making a song, you're just like it's like something else
• 29:10
  is making it for you, and it it's just coming together, and you're just you you're so
• 29:14
  excited.
• 29:14
  You can't even, like, get it out quick enough because you're the next it's our next thought's
• 29:18
  already there.
• 29:19
  Like like, I believe, like, the muse, so it's like, I really when even whenever I hear, like,
• 29:23
  a beat or if I'm making some music, like, I just go off of that.
• 29:28
  And if I don't feel that, then then I like, I feel like it shouldn't be hard, basically, what
• 29:33
  I'm saying.
• 29:33
  You know what I mean?
• 29:34
  So I feel like the music should make itself.
• 29:37
  So if it's like if you're having to force it, then I feel like that's that's gonna be a
• 29:41
  frequency that people are gonna feel whenever they feel it.
• 29:43
  So so if you're having a good time, you're enjoying yourself, you're loving this song,
• 29:46
  that's the frequency that's gonna be put that people gotta catch whenever they hear the song.
• 29:50
  You know?
• 29:50
  Yeah.
• 29:51
  I mean, I wrote my first song in, like, twenty minutes just because the pen was guiding me.
• 29:55
  Yeah.
• 29:55
  That's the muse.
• 29:56
  You know?
• 29:57
  Whether you're a writer, the ride writers talk about the muse.
• 30:00
  Anybody creative, you know, people who paint, that's the that's you know what I mean?
• 30:05
  It it I don't wanna be, like, bland, but it's almost like some people, they either have it or
• 30:09
  they don't.
• 30:09
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 30:10
  Like, I think that's, like, something that you can't really teach.
• 30:12
  You can't teach somebody the muse.
• 30:14
  You know?
• 30:14
  And and it makes it where, like not saying that somebody that doesn't have the muse can't be as
• 30:18
  good as you, but they're gonna have to work a lot harder.
• 30:21
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 30:22
  Like, a lot a lot of things, it comes effortlessly.
• 30:25
  Like you know what I mean?
• 30:26
  Like, I feel like
• 30:27
  I I see that a lot.
• 30:29
  So I've interviewed over 300 artists in the last eighteen months on our show, and a lot of
• 30:34
  them because of my Midwest country music organization and now having won the content
• 30:39
  creator of the year award over there that I have I have cache in that in that realm, right,
• 30:45
  in that country music world.
• 30:46
  And I don't even consider my music necessarily country.
• 30:49
  Like, I have a few that are on that line, but that's where the songwriters are these days.
• 30:53
  Like, I I grew up loving bands like Pearl Jam and the Red Hot Chili Peppers and, really good
• 30:57
  songwriters, but there's just not really in rock music anymore.
• 31:01
  Rock kept getting heavier and heavier and heavier, and it kinda left me where I was like,
• 31:05
  I I I like a little distortion on my guitar too, but it's not all about these heavy kinda
• 31:10
  distorted sounds.
• 31:11
  Like, where's the songs?
• 31:13
  And I'm not a screamer.
• 31:14
  I'm a singer.
• 31:15
  So I've kinda found myself in this country world now.
• 31:18
  And with that comes people that spend a lot of time in Nashville.
• 31:22
  And, you know, there, they're kinda turning, you know, songwriting into, like, this cookie
• 31:28
  cutter kinda thing and, oh, it's gotta have this and you gotta have these parts and, you
• 31:33
  know, a good song isn't that without them.
• 31:35
  Was like, man, I've never written a song like that.
• 31:37
  I've never sat down and, like, I'm gonna my every single song that I've ever written in my
• 31:41
  life has been a stroke of inspiration.
• 31:44
  Right?
• 31:45
  It has
• 31:45
  sparked from somewhere, what feeling or something, an experience, right, that just had
• 31:51
  to come out.
• 31:52
  And the way that it came out was it sounded like this, and it felt like this.
• 31:57
  And so, yeah, you talk about the muse, man.
• 32:00
  I I I feel you.
• 32:01
  And Well,
• 32:02
  I think
• 32:02
  I think that's where good music the only place good music really comes from.
• 32:06
  Real Yeah.
• 32:06
  Like, soul touching music.
• 32:08
  And and I think a lot of, like, what she was talking about, like, has to do with these,
• 32:11
  like, writer groups.
• 32:12
  You know what I mean?
• 32:13
  Because because especially with, like, country music and that type of music, they'll they'll
• 32:16
  have, like, sit down and and, you know what mean?
• 32:18
  It might be five, ten people, and they're writing the songs together.
• 32:21
  You know?
• 32:22
  Whenever, like, the drill artist you know, like, you were saying, like like, you were
• 32:25
  saying, like, if you were inspired by something, I like to make the song and not even
• 32:29
  really let nobody hear it until I'm pretty much done with it.
• 32:32
  You know what I mean?
• 32:32
  Because that way nobody can be, like, change it.
• 32:34
  I'm like, no.
• 32:35
  I already
• 32:36
  they already see the vision.
• 32:37
  This is the way it is type thing.
• 32:38
  You know what mean?
• 32:39
  Right.
• 32:39
  And and a lot of good songwriters, like, especially back in the day, that's how it was.
• 32:43
  You know what I mean?
• 32:44
  Like, they didn't have it wasn't so corporate because now there's so it's such music has
• 32:48
  became such a business.
• 32:50
  You know what I mean?
• 32:51
  Like, it's always been a business, but now with, like, now with, like, DistroKid and how
• 32:56
  it opened up the floodgates for all these independent artists to get on on major
• 33:00
  platforms and stuff.
• 33:01
  But at the same time, it opened up the floodgates for all these people to take
• 33:05
  advantage of them, to be like you know what mean?
• 33:07
  People paying for plays.
• 33:08
  People they're they're you know what mean?
• 33:11
  All this type of stuff that's that everybody has their hand out, and it's almost like
• 33:14
  there's, like, vultures of people.
• 33:15
  Like, you know, you can't how many times have y'all gone, like, Facebook or something and you
• 33:19
  and you see, like, you got, like, 12:12 notification?
• 33:22
  You're like, oh, what the hell?
• 33:23
  You know, you click on it's the same person.
• 33:24
  Right?
• 33:25
  And then and then you go check your email or your your DMs, and then they're like they're
• 33:30
  like, hello, sir.
• 33:31
  I can give you organic followers and shit.
• 33:33
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 33:35
  I get that on my Instagram.
• 33:37
  So my Facebook is pretty organic, but my Instagram, I don't spend a lot of time over
• 33:41
  there.
• 33:41
  And sometimes I'll pop and I'll be like, 14 notifications.
• 33:44
  What the hell?
• 33:45
  And it's just one person, one bot, like, 14 of my post and then sent me a message trying to
• 33:50
  sell me something.
• 33:51
  Just like that. Then these
• 33:51
  Then these people,
• 33:52
  they don't even know that these are bots.
• 33:55
  Like, you see people arguing with people on comments, and they don't understand that.
• 33:59
  It's like, there's, like, this new warfare that's going on now where it's like a bot
• 34:03
  warfare from, like, Russia, China, all these things where it's a way to to divide us and
• 34:07
  make us, like, argue with each other to do all this stuff.
• 34:10
  You know what I mean?
• 34:11
  And they're these bots.
• 34:12
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 34:13
  These trobots that are just like that's a whole another that that it could be a whole another
• 34:18
  podcast, man.
• 34:19
  Oh, yeah.
• 34:19
  No, Bobby.
• 34:20
  You already know.
• 34:21
  You
• 34:22
  already know.
• 34:22
  The bots and the bot place.
• 34:25
  Well and and especially if you get into any kind of political conversations with someone on
• 34:29
  just an open forum and like, bro, you just Yeah.
• 34:32
  And it's so easy to identify for those with people with eyes to see.
• 34:37
  Right?
• 34:37
  But so many don't, man.
• 34:38
  They're just they're and and whether it's ignorance or it's just a a lack of knowledge
• 34:44
  about how the Internet works now.
• 34:46
  But once once you've seen a bot farm and you've seen some of these troll farms in foreign
• 34:51
  countries and all the phones hooked up in a little thing, and you're like, oh, the
• 34:56
  Internet's not even real.
• 34:57
  Well, you can tell yeah.
• 34:59
  And especially, like, the Internet's it's getting faker every time I turn on it.
• 35:03
  Like, now all these AI videos, you got Stephen Hawkins wrestling.
• 35:07
  That's real.
• 35:08
  That's real right there.
• 35:10
  That's gotta be.
• 35:11
  But don't get me wrong.
• 35:12
  Don't get me wrong.
• 35:13
  I I think it's funny.
• 35:14
  You know?
• 35:14
  I love that type of stuff, but what I don't like is the AI work because where in where the
• 35:20
  videos that is taken away like, let's say, like, I've seen a video the other day, and it
• 35:23
  was like a a dog and, like, a it was like a bald eagle came and picked up the dog, and then
• 35:31
  and then, like, the goat, like, fought off the eagle, you know, which would have been a badass
• 35:35
  video before AI.
• 35:36
  You'd be like, damn.
• 35:37
  Oh, shit.
• 35:38
  Look at this video.
• 35:38
  You know?
• 35:39
  Like, this go protected.
• 35:40
  And then now it's like, even if it was real, you're just like, that's fake.
• 35:44
  That's AI.
• 35:45
  That's
• 35:45
  fake.
• 35:45
  Yeah.
• 35:45
  You don't
• 35:46
  trust anything.
• 35:47
  Even if it was real, you're like
• 35:49
  Yeah.
• 35:49
  I was just like, that's stupid.
• 35:50
  I don't even like
• 35:51
  Look at that AI log behind boo boo.
• 35:54
  Yeah.
• 35:54
  Yeah.
• 35:55
  Yeah.
• 35:55
  That's like
• 35:56
  Look at the AI boo boo.
• 35:57
  Look at the AI boo boo.
• 36:00
  We're not even real.
• 36:01
  I'm fake.
• 36:01
  How'd you call me out?
• 36:03
  But I I think that's what makes, like, what you're doing and what we're doing here and
• 36:08
  especially on the live hits.
• 36:09
  I mean, we do a ton of interviews.
• 36:10
  I'm scheduled out in taped interviews right now into April.
• 36:14
  Right?
• 36:15
  Twice a week.
• 36:15
  I got all these interviews that'll be coming out.
• 36:18
  But, eventually, it's like, those aren't even real.
• 36:21
  Right?
• 36:21
  Like, everybody's living in the past, but we're just out of the curve, Bobby.
• 36:24
  And I feel like what you're doing with the radio station, bringing people in studio, and
• 36:28
  all the things that you've been doing is just like that's what's bringing music back,
• 36:32
  bringing it back to the people.
• 36:34
  And that's why it's really Yeah.
• 36:35
  That's something that yeah.
• 36:37
  That's something that fake people can't do neither.
• 36:39
  You know what I mean?
• 36:40
  Like, fake like, a bot, you can't go into the actual studio and have a one on like, a podcast
• 36:45
  conversation or or a bot.
• 36:47
  It don't matter how much of this AI music that these bots are making.
• 36:51
  You know what I mean?
• 36:51
  That's another thing that I that I hate too is, like, people that make music with AI.
• 36:56
  And then you know what I mean?
• 36:58
  And and it's one like, I don't I I I don't I don't use AI for none of my music.
• 37:02
  You know?
• 37:03
  But I don't hate on nobody that uses it to help them with their music.
• 37:06
  But what I'm talking about is the people that go and they go into the generators, and they're
• 37:10
  just like, make a pop song with the girl boys that sounds like this, talking about this.
• 37:15
  And then and then they and then they generate the song in, like, a minute and a half, and
• 37:19
  then they try to send it into my show.
• 37:21
  Like, it's theirs like, they're a real artist.
• 37:23
  And and that's the type of stuff that I hate because that's like a slap in the face for
• 37:26
  people that actually go in the studio and actually make music, especially like like, I
• 37:30
  made music with, like, a like a like a feed machine type shit.
• 37:34
  I'm all dropping shit.
• 37:36
  But I like you know what mean?
• 37:37
  Like, real like, generating real music.
• 37:39
  You know?
• 37:39
  Which which you know what mean?
• 37:41
  I'll use loops and stuff.
• 37:42
  There's nothing.
• 37:42
  But but what I'm saying, though, is this is like you know what I'm talking about?
• 37:45
  How there's, like, apps you can download where you just download the app, and then you're,
• 37:49
  like, make a country song about a breakup and put these keywords in it.
• 37:55
  And then you could choose the voice that you want.
• 37:57
  And then and then
• 37:58
  Bobby, I've been blown away by some of the stuff that I've heard.
• 38:01
  I got
• 38:01
  a good friend of mine now.
• 38:03
  That's what
• 38:03
  I'm saying.
• 38:03
  That's why I hate it because they're good songs.
• 38:05
  But Yeah.
• 38:06
  But I hate the fact that but I hate it, though.
• 38:08
  You know what I mean?
• 38:09
  You know?
• 38:09
  I hate that they're good too.
• 38:11
  You know?
• 38:12
  But can always tell them
• 38:13
  gotta check the credits and make sure it's not all generated nowadays.
• 38:17
  Well, see.
• 38:17
  And and I feel
• 38:18
  AI has been in music since the early two thousands if you look at writing credits.
• 38:24
  Yeah.
• 38:24
  Yeah.
• 38:25
  I like, I like that it's given people who maybe don't have all those skills, that that it's
• 38:31
  given them an outlet to get things that they feel out.
• 38:35
  Right?
• 38:35
  And and that's what I really and I really got this from my friend, Amber, and listening to
• 38:40
  her story and just like where she's like, I've always been a writer, but I don't have any
• 38:45
  musical talent.
• 38:46
  Right?
• 38:46
  Like, I can't play guitar, and I can't produce a beat or anything, but I learned how to use
• 38:51
  this thing.
• 38:51
  And she's very meticulous about how she goes about building it out too.
• 38:55
  Right?
• 38:55
  So it it doesn't just take her a minute and a half, throw this in there.
• 38:58
  Well
• 38:59
  She's working really hard to get out what she thinks about it, but she's also not out there
• 39:03
  trying to pass it off as like, oh, I made this.
• 39:06
  It's like, well, yeah, I made this with AI, but I just some of their songs are just funny too.
• 39:11
  Right?
• 39:12
  Where it's just that made this to be funny.
• 39:14
  So I'm like, I'm on the fence.
• 39:15
  I want people to be able to express themselves.
• 39:17
  Yeah.
• 39:18
  But and and nobody's making any money right now.
• 39:20
  I guess that's my thing.
• 39:21
  And she can't go sit down around a campfire and do that.
• 39:25
  Right?
• 39:25
  Like so that's always kinda been my thing as a as a live performer to be like, well, you can't
• 39:30
  just spit it.
• 39:31
  Right?
• 39:31
  You you can't just step out there and sing that song and to do any of that.
• 39:36
  And if nobody's making any money in music right now anyway, right, like, who who gives a shit?
• 39:40
  Have fun.
• 39:41
  Go But like
• 39:42
  you said, though but like you said, like, she's a writer, and she takes her time with it.
• 39:45
  Like, that's a whole another different.
• 39:47
  Like, just like I I I got a buddy that that he he makes beats, like, with, like, Fruity Loops
• 39:54
  or whatever.
• 39:55
  And then he and then he writes the lyrics, but then he's he can't sing, so he has AI singing
• 39:59
  for him.
• 40:00
  And and that's dope.
• 40:01
  You know what I mean?
• 40:02
  Because it's just like, alright.
• 40:03
  That's just like you ghostwriting for another artist, but instead of having an artist, you
• 40:07
  have AI.
• 40:07
  Like, that's completely different.
• 40:09
  Like but what the thing that I'm more talking about is just, like, these, like, little
• 40:14
  generators.
• 40:14
  Like you know what I mean?
• 40:16
  And and especially, like and then and then AI looks so fake right now.
• 40:20
  Like, I know it's getting better.
• 40:21
  Like, it's getting better and better, but it That's the scary part.
• 40:25
  Yeah.
• 40:25
  Pretty soon, we're not gonna even be able to tell.
• 40:27
  Like like, even with music, I can tell whenever I hear AI song only because it's too perfect.
• 40:34
  You know what I mean?
• 40:35
  I'll be like, that shit is too crisp.
• 40:37
  The shit is too on beat.
• 40:38
  That shit the licks they they just seem too good.
• 40:40
  Like, that's the only way I could tell is the difference.
• 40:43
  You know what I mean?
• 40:44
  Is is from that.
• 40:45
  But I don't hate on nobody that that's doing something they that they love, you know, or
• 40:49
  that they put or that they're creative with.
• 40:52
  You know what I mean?
• 40:53
  But that's a whole another like, being a whole another artist, though.
• 40:56
  You know what I mean?
• 40:56
  That should be like a but like you said, they can't perform.
• 40:59
  They can't do things.
• 41:00
  So so as instead again instead of me being over here being bitter about it, I'll just try I'll
• 41:05
  just try to focus on things that, hey.
• 41:07
  I can't do.
• 41:08
  Like you said, like, hey.
• 41:08
  I can't go perform.
• 41:10
  Hey.
• 41:10
  I can't do a podcast at a radio station.
• 41:13
  You know what I mean?
• 41:14
  Not yet.
• 41:15
  God.
• 41:15
  That's why that's why I pulled my podcast off of Spotify because their AI is trading right
• 41:20
  now.
• 41:20
  And I was like, man, if they make a digital bubble, I'm fucked.
• 41:24
  Yeah.
• 41:24
  You don't want more than one of me.
• 41:26
  Okay.
• 41:26
  Just saying.
• 41:27
  No.
• 41:28
  Imagine if they made a digital boo boo.
• 41:32
  Already they already can.
• 41:33
  If especially with, like, people like us that that have, like, a footprint online where we
• 41:39
  generated so many words.
• 41:40
  They Oh, man.
• 41:41
  I have 200 episodes out.
• 41:43
  Right?
• 41:43
  Like, I ain't Joe Rogan, but, man, you've you've got me saying just about everything
• 41:47
  already.
• 41:49
  Right?
• 41:49
  So
• 41:50
  But but I just wanna know, is yours gets hurt as much as you do?
• 41:54
  What?
• 41:55
  Does your AI get hurt as much as you do?
• 41:59
  I don't know.
• 42:00
  Probably.
• 42:00
  Mike just go get my
• 42:02
  His AI doesn't ride a bike that's broke to shit.
• 42:05
  But listen.
• 42:06
  I wanted to kinda throw I know, Scottie.
• 42:08
  Sorry.
• 42:09
  I kinda wanted to throw my opinion out there because y'all got to talking, and I really
• 42:14
  liked how the beat didn't overpower your power your music, and your voice stood out well
• 42:20
  enough you could hear it.
• 42:21
  Yeah.
• 42:22
  I appreciate it.
• 42:23
  Professional quality.
• 42:24
  Like
• 42:25
  Yeah.
• 42:25
  I actually
• 42:25
  I actually mixed it down myself.
• 42:27
  I did all the I did all the all the mixing and stuff like that.
• 42:30
  I pretty much, like everything that I've, like, done, it's almost been like, I couldn't like,
• 42:35
  being an artist and coming up and stuff, like, I can't afford people like, pay people to do
• 42:40
  stuff, so I just kinda learned.
• 42:41
  Like like like my manager, Young TZ, told me, he was like, just stare at the screen long
• 42:46
  enough and you'll figure it out.
• 42:47
  Like, you know, that's what that's what I've done, though.
• 42:51
  I just kind of just you know, with even just, like, the with just doing the streams and the
• 42:56
  podcast and stuff.
• 42:57
  You know what I mean?
• 42:58
  Like like, I would just see these other streamers and stuff.
• 43:01
  And, like, at first, when I first started my stream, it was, like, one of them things, like,
• 43:05
  everybody gets played.
• 43:06
  We don't give our opinion on nobody's music.
• 43:09
  You know what I mean?
• 43:10
  It's a safe place for artists to get hurt.
• 43:11
  You know?
• 43:12
  And then it kinda transformed into this other thing where, like, if your music sucks, we have
• 43:16
  this horn, and we're like, we just stopped it.
• 43:20
  And then and then we kinda backed off from that a little bit because people stopped listening
• 43:24
  their music because we'd be, like, trolling little and stuff.
• 43:27
  So so so but
• 43:29
  Double edged sword.
• 43:33
  But but the thing but but it's all but it's never been, like, biased, though.
• 43:36
  Like like, if I hear a song, I'm not gonna be like just because it might not be a song that I
• 43:40
  like or it's something that I would listen to, I would still, like you know what I mean?
• 43:44
  Get my opinion on it as if, like, a open minded type thing.
• 43:47
  You know what I mean?
• 43:48
  But but I feel like sometimes, like, if like, people have told me that I sucked whenever I
• 43:53
  first started.
• 43:54
  You know what mean?
• 43:54
  And that shit made me better.
• 43:56
  You know what I mean?
• 43:56
  Like, if you just let people Yeah.
• 43:58
  Well, and know what?
• 43:59
  They were probably right because everybody sucks when they're just starting out, man.
• 44:03
  I heard I mean, I was perfect.
• 44:05
  I heard something.
• 44:06
  I heard a song from me the other day that was, like, from, like, three years ago, and I was
• 44:10
  just like, damn.
• 44:10
  I was not as good as I thought I was.
• 44:12
  You know?
• 44:13
  Because I've always had this, like, confidence where I just think, like, I'm just, you know
• 44:16
  but it's kind of, like, a bad thing too because sometimes you you know?
• 44:20
  But you need people to keep you grounded.
• 44:22
  Like, those are the type of people you need around you if people are gonna be honest with
• 44:24
  you.
• 44:25
  Like like my boy, Tweezy.
• 44:26
  Like like, I was, like, super big headed, and every like, whenever I first started putting
• 44:30
  out my music, everybody was loving it.
• 44:32
  And now I went over to the studio for the first time.
• 44:33
  He and as soon as I walked in there, he just looked at me.
• 44:35
  He's like, you know, you're not as good as you think you are.
• 44:37
  And just turned around and walked out.
• 44:39
  And I was just like,
• 44:39
  what the fuck this was really?
• 44:42
  You know?
• 44:42
  But that shit but guess what?
• 44:44
  Every time I record, that's the studio I go to.
• 44:46
  Like, whenever, like, it comes because I'll record myself, you know, and I get it down.
• 44:51
  So that way whenever I get to actual studio, I have it down where I can just do it real quick.
• 44:55
  Like, you know what mean?
• 44:56
  I'm not trying to waste nobody's time.
• 44:57
  But I do that over there because I know that, like you know what I mean?
• 45:01
  The pressure's on there.
• 45:02
  Like, you know mean?
• 45:03
  I could go to a studio where people are just gonna, like you know, they don't care.
• 45:07
  They just want they just you know what I mean?
• 45:09
  Whatever.
• 45:09
  They just want their name on the song.
• 45:11
  But but people that are gonna, like, push you to be better, those are people that you need
• 45:15
  around you.
• 45:16
  You know?
• 45:16
  Because especially in the music industry, because you get surrounded by yes men and types
• 45:20
  like that, people that just wanna ride the wave.
• 45:23
  You know what I mean?
• 45:25
  Bobby, I wanna play another song here.
• 45:27
  I got I got love too much pulled up.
• 45:30
  You wanna tell us a little bit about the song before we before we play it?
• 45:33
  Alright.
• 45:33
  Alright.
• 45:34
  So this is we're actually doing the video.
• 45:35
  See, what's crazy about this song is this song I originally wrote this song, like, before I
• 45:41
  even dropped high off money like this.
• 45:43
  I wrote this song about, two probably almost three years ago now.
• 45:46
  You know?
• 45:47
  And it was right whenever me and my baby mama split up and all that type of shit.
• 45:51
  But, like, I was saying, like, I didn't I didn't push this song because I felt like I had
• 45:55
  to put out the high money and them other type of songs to have people understand me as a
• 46:00
  artist.
• 46:00
  You know?
• 46:01
  So so I had this new album that's dropping at the end of the year, b hills two point o.
• 46:06
  And what I did is I kinda reached back to them songs that I didn't push, like, love too much.
• 46:11
  And, you know, I feel like this more understanding of a artist.
• 46:15
  You know?
• 46:15
  And we will be dropping the video for well, we gotta shoot the video first, but we'll be
• 46:19
  having the video coming out too.
• 46:21
  So it'll probably be at the beginning of next year.
• 46:24
  But it's actually it's actually a kind of a playoff.
• 46:27
  Like, the beats are playoff of the j z song cry.
• 46:31
  And I originally wrote it to the j z song cry, and then I realized I'd get sued if I use that
• 46:35
  beat.
• 46:36
  So it's it's, like, flipped and stuff.
• 46:39
  But it's enough where you can tell that it's this beat, but it's flipped.
• 46:42
  So it's, it's a different song, though.
• 46:44
  It's a completely different song.
• 46:45
  You know?
• 46:45
  Yeah.
• 46:46
  It was just the vibe of
• 46:47
  Yeah.
• 46:47
  That is the last guy you're trying to get sued by, man.
• 46:50
  He got all
• 46:50
  the Oh, god.
• 46:51
  No.
• 46:51
  Lawyers in the world.
• 46:52
  But the but but but I was actually listening to that Jay Z song Cry, and I was all you know, my
• 46:57
  feelings and stuff.
• 46:58
  You know?
• 46:59
  You know, me and my baby mama's buds listen to song Cry and Shea, and I was just like, man, I
• 47:03
  wanna make a song that has, like, a like, you know what I mean?
• 47:06
  An effect like that.
• 47:07
  You know what I mean?
• 47:07
  So I but felt like I couldn't have dropped this song three years ago, so that's why I reached
• 47:12
  back and now I'm dropping it.
• 47:13
  Good.
• 47:13
  I love it.
• 47:14
  Well, this is love too much.
• 47:15
  Bee Hills.
• 47:53
  Your mama in your ear and your best friend in your ear and all this drama over here.
• 47:57
  You got me stressed out.
• 47:58
  You got me stressed out, and I'm about to lose it.
• 48:01
  I'm sorry that I'm never really sober much.
• 48:04
  I'm sorry is the only time I'm showing love.
• 48:07
  I'm sorry that I never really showed enough and that I'm leaving every time that I just sobered
• 48:12
  up.
• 48:12
  Is love too much to believe in?
• 48:15
  Is love too much to get even?
• 48:18
  Is love too much to believe in?
• 48:20
  I'm just asking what's the reason.
• 48:24
  I don't need no fussing.
• 48:27
  I don't need no grieving.
• 48:29
  I'm just asking what's the reason.
• 48:32
  I'm just asking what's the reason.
• 48:35
  My heart's been broken, ripped apart, reopened, resold, re stolen.
• 48:40
  And
• 48:41
  I
• 48:41
  know that you know it.
• 48:42
  I can tell that you know this though I hate that you know it.
• 48:46
  Is love too much to believe in?
• 49:03
  Just asking what's reason.
• 49:06
  I'm just asking what's the reason.
• 49:09
  All this chiefing and drinking.
• 49:11
  Got us in love for the evening.
• 49:14
  But after we fuck, I'm leaving.
• 49:17
  I hit you up next weekend.
• 49:20
  All this chiefing and drinking.
• 49:23
  Got us in love for the evening.
• 49:25
  But after we fuck, I'm leaving.
• 49:28
  I hit you up next weekend.
• 49:31
  Is love too much to get even?
• 49:34
  Is love too much to be leaving?
• 49:37
  Is love too much to get even?
• 49:40
  I'm just asking what's the reason.
• 49:43
  I don't need no fussing.
• 50:02
  The guy adds the backing vocals and stuff too.
• 50:05
  I just wanted to send that one because that's, like, the new shit.
• 50:09
  Yeah.
• 50:10
  I love it, man.
• 50:10
  Then and the quality of the beats is top notch, man.
• 50:15
  Sounds really good.
• 50:17
  Love that you kinda, you know, singing a little bit on this one.
• 50:20
  Right?
• 50:21
  It it it definitely means something to you.
• 50:23
  Yeah.
• 50:24
  It's like a it's I think of it as, like, it's like toxic.
• 50:27
  You know what I mean?
• 50:28
  Like, it's and it's really, like, putting emotion behind what you're saying.
• 50:32
  You know what I mean?
• 50:33
  For sure.
• 50:34
  But I appreciate it, man.
• 50:36
  Those are the type of songs that's like because that's, like, one of the songs that, like,
• 50:39
  whenever I perform that song, like, I always perform that song last because it's like, I get
• 50:44
  more into it.
• 50:45
  You know what I mean?
• 50:46
  Like, performance is love too much to believe in, is love too much to get even.
• 50:51
  And, like, people, they, like, they feel that.
• 50:53
  You know what mean?
• 50:53
  Because whenever you really whenever you're passionate about something, like I said, like,
• 50:57
  people are gonna feel that.
• 50:58
  You know what mean?
• 50:58
  And that's something that you can really capture on stage too.
• 51:01
  Like, that's why I love, you know, like, performing and stuff.
• 51:04
  You know what I mean?
• 51:04
  Yeah.
• 51:05
  I mean, you definitely captured your passion in that song.
• 51:08
  The beat had wonderful quality, the vocals.
• 51:11
  You could
• 51:11
  feel your emotion in it, and everything was mixed well already even before, you know Yeah.
• 51:17
  You finalized it.
• 51:18
  Yeah.
• 51:19
  I appreciate it.
• 51:19
  I appreciate it.
• 51:20
  Yeah.
• 51:21
  It I I feel like with the video, it's gonna it's gonna kinda, like like, paint the story
• 51:26
  too.
• 51:27
  You know what I mean?
• 51:27
  Like, the like, I got this girl.
• 51:30
  She's a this model for the video, and we're gonna be, like, in a hotel.
• 51:33
  And it's gonna be kinda, like, going back and forth, like you know what I mean?
• 51:36
  Like, type stuff.
• 51:38
  You know?
• 51:38
  Like, even with just, like, that the first first, you know, like, how it's, like, I could
• 51:42
  feel this growing distant.
• 51:43
  It's in the air.
• 51:44
  I could tell it's there, like, instant.
• 51:46
  Lately, things are getting intense, and we both gonna put in our 2¢.
• 51:49
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 51:50
  Like, it's, like, you know, it's like, have a conversation back and forth.
• 51:53
  You know what I mean?
• 51:54
  Like, it's almost like telling a story.
• 51:55
  That's why I wanna caption the video.
• 51:57
  Hopefully, I captured in the video.
• 51:59
  You know?
• 51:59
  And I love that you are bringing you're bringing the ideas to life in video too.
• 52:09
  Right?
• 52:09
  Like, you you have you have a very solid business mind for like, you understand what the
• 52:16
  business is now and realizing that you have to be able to visually tell the story as well as
• 52:21
  having songs and bringing it out and everything.
• 52:25
  Like, you're bringing the whole package with you every time you come to the table with a
• 52:29
  track.
• 52:30
  And not that we're gonna have a music video for all of them, but for the ones that mean
• 52:34
  something to you, like, you you have to be able to visually tell that story and and what's your
• 52:40
  story.
• 52:41
  You know?
• 52:42
  And I feel I love the forethought.
• 52:44
  Yeah.
• 52:44
  And I feel like I feel like every song, you should wanna make a video to every song that
• 52:48
  you're doing.
• 52:48
  Like, you know what mean?
• 52:49
  Like, if I had if I had the resources, I would have a video to every song.
• 52:53
  You know what I mean?
• 52:53
  But, like, but I feel like that's you know what I mean?
• 52:56
  Like, it's almost like every song is, like, your baby kind of.
• 52:59
  Like you know what I mean?
• 53:01
  Like and then it's, like, type of songs like those.
• 53:03
  Like like, high off money, like that song, like, yeah, whenever people, they're like, oh,
• 53:07
  that's a dope song.
• 53:08
  It just kinda goes in one ear, not the other, even though, like, I like the song.
• 53:12
  But whenever people, they like like that love too much song, it means more because I was
• 53:16
  going through something when I made that song.
• 53:18
  Like, that song like, music really saved my life.
• 53:21
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 53:21
  Like, because because before music, you know, like, I was going through stuff, like, you
• 53:27
  know, even with, like, drug addiction and stuff.
• 53:30
  I've been sober for about three years now, you know, coming up here, but that was a lot of
• 53:33
  things that broke up.
• 53:34
  The shit with my baby mama was just me being on drugs and, like, all that type of stuff.
• 53:39
  So so it music filled that void.
• 53:42
  You know what I mean?
• 53:43
  Because it's like I feel like I feel like if you have an addicted personality, you have to
• 53:47
  be addicted to something.
• 53:48
  You know what I mean?
• 53:49
  So whether it's some people are addicted to work.
• 53:51
  Some people are addicted to hobbies or whatever it is.
• 53:54
  You know what I mean?
• 53:55
  Some people are addicted to alcohol or drugs.
• 53:56
  So it's like it's like even though, like, you know, I'm clean, but I had to have something to
• 54:01
  fill that void.
• 54:02
  You know what I mean?
• 54:03
  And music felt filled that and have people other people, like, fill that too.
• 54:08
  You know what I mean?
• 54:09
  It that's why I love music.
• 54:11
  Because because you know what mean?
• 54:12
  Like, even people that don't even like, somebody cannot even know what you're saying
• 54:15
  live in another country, and they'll still, feel what you're going through.
• 54:19
  You know what mean?
• 54:20
  Or feel the song.
• 54:21
  You've you know what I'm saying?
• 54:22
  As someone who spent time in another country, I lived in Mexico for a year, before I came back
• 54:29
  into a couple years in prison.
• 54:30
  I was on the run-in Mexico, and that's where I, like, found music again.
• 54:34
  Right?
• 54:34
  Like, went through this bad breakup, got myself in a bunch of trouble, was like, fuck.
• 54:39
  I ain't going to prison for weed.
• 54:41
  I went to Mexico, and, that's where, like, I rediscovered what music meant to me because
• 54:48
  when I was in my darkest hour, I wasn't playing music.
• 54:50
  Like, I didn't wanna feel good.
• 54:51
  Right?
• 54:52
  I didn't wanna do that, and that that's always been it for me.
• 54:55
  But, yeah, man, you gotta have an outlet for that.
• 54:58
  I have an addictive personality too.
• 55:00
  When I'm in on something, I'm all in.
• 55:03
  And I'm gonna do that to the fullest that I can, and and I'm very grateful to have to have
• 55:10
  this now.
• 55:11
  Right?
• 55:11
  Like, I'm addicted to this.
• 55:12
  Sitting in front of
• 55:13
  me Yeah.
• 55:14
  Getting to meet other people and to listen to their art and and, like, I I I'm so grateful to
• 55:20
  have this because I what I would be doing without it.
• 55:24
  Oh, yeah.
• 55:24
  I mean, the connections that I've made.
• 55:26
  I mean, I've only been doing mine since June, but the connections in them four or five months
• 55:32
  that have been made, I wouldn't give them connections up for anything in the world.
• 55:37
  And, you know
• 55:37
  Yeah.
• 55:38
  And on your song, I I really like the emotion you put into that one.
• 55:43
  Honestly, out of the two so far, I like that one the best because Yeah.
• 55:46
  I appreciate more relatable in my opinion than and you connect with the song better.
• 55:52
  Yeah.
• 55:52
  Yeah.
• 55:53
  But I feel like I feel like in a way, though, I had to drop maybe I didn't have to drop the
• 55:57
  other music first, but I felt like, you know, like, it it makes it where, like you know what
• 56:02
  I mean?
• 56:02
  Like, people because y'all see, like, my y'all see on the because the other song that I sent
• 56:07
  in, the envy song, that one's actually one that I just that I produced.
• 56:10
  I'm on the song at the end, but I produced that for this other artist.
• 56:14
  Because that's why I wanted to show y'all with the music because I wanted to, like, have the
• 56:18
  one let y'all see, like, the rapping song.
• 56:21
  And then the love too much is, like, them those are songs I really love.
• 56:25
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 56:26
  Like like, that's why, like, you know, even with this video and stuff, like because it I
• 56:30
  think it's gonna be my fourth video.
• 56:31
  So it took four videos to get to the song that I wanted to do.
• 56:36
  You know what I mean?
• 56:38
  But but, no, I appreciate it, man.
• 56:41
  It it means a lot when there are people, like you know?
• 56:43
  Like I said, like, I like everybody that likes any of my music, any of my songs.
• 56:46
  You know mean?
• 56:46
  Even people that don't.
• 56:47
  You know?
• 56:48
  Because just like you were talking about with these podcasts and these streams is, like, the
• 56:52
  connections that you meet, like like, you know, like, I know I I've interviewed artists from,
• 56:57
  like, South Africa all over the whole world.
• 56:59
  You know what I mean?
• 56:59
  And a lot of a lot of my biggest fans are, like, over there, like, in South Africa and
• 57:04
  stuff.
• 57:04
  And it's because they appreciate the fact that they're getting their music played on American.
• 57:09
  You know what I mean?
• 57:09
  It means everything to them.
• 57:10
  Like, some just little to us, like like us playing a song on here.
• 57:14
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 57:15
  It but to them, you know what I mean?
• 57:17
  That's, like, the biggest thing in the world, like, to them.
• 57:19
  You know what I mean?
• 57:20
  So it's like it's
• 57:22
  like They're getting played in America.
• 57:23
  Right?
• 57:24
  And they can go back to all their friends and be like, I'm getting played on this show, and
• 57:27
  they don't have to know that there's, you know, three people watching that show.
• 57:31
  You know?
• 57:32
  Yeah.
• 57:32
  Exactly.
• 57:33
  Even when there's only three people, like, those you know what I mean?
• 57:36
  You got you gotta appreciate every like, whether it's three people or, like, 3,000,000
• 57:41
  people.
• 57:41
  You know what I mean?
• 57:42
  That's the that's the difference between people like, that's what I because I've and just in
• 57:46
  this three years that I've been doing this.
• 57:48
  You know what mean?
• 57:48
  Like, I've seen a lot of people come and go, you know, with artists and podcasters and
• 57:53
  stuff.
• 57:53
  And what it is is if you're just doing it because you're this is just what you love to
• 57:58
  do, then you're gonna last just like the the the turt the turtle outran the rabbit.
• 58:03
  You know what I mean?
• 58:04
  Because the turtle, he's slow and steady.
• 58:06
  Like, if you're doing this because, like you said, this is what you enjoy to do.
• 58:09
  You this is your Wednesday night.
• 58:10
  Your wife's gone.
• 58:11
  It's like, hell, yeah.
• 58:11
  I'm gonna get on my podcast.
• 58:12
  You're doing it because you wanna do it.
• 58:14
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 58:15
  And and it shows.
• 58:17
  And and whenever you do it like that, then because the people that that they're doing it
• 58:20
  because they're like, oh, I wanna I'm a I'm a make money on this, or I'm gonna and then they
• 58:24
  and then they do and they get three views and then they give up.
• 58:27
  You know what mean?
• 58:27
  Just like whenever people post stuff, and then they might not get as many likes as they want
• 58:32
  or as many reactions as they want, so they stop posting.
• 58:35
  But the thing is, though, is you gotta just keep doing it, and you gotta keep because
• 58:38
  eventually, somebody's gonna click on it.
• 58:39
  Eventually, somebody's gonna keep seeing you, and they're just gonna be like, man, what is
• 58:42
  this?
• 58:43
  But you have to make sure that whenever they do click on you, put out a good product at the
• 58:46
  same.
• 58:47
  You know?
• 58:47
  Because a lot of people, they'd putting out so much stuff.
• 58:49
  Or you know what I mean?
• 58:50
  That they don't even care about what they're doing.
• 58:52
  Like, you gotta make sure that whatever you're doing is you're putting your all into it
• 58:56
  because you never know.
• 58:57
  Like, a lot people only go give you one chance.
• 58:59
  You know?
• 58:59
  They might only click on you one time, so you gotta make sure whenever they click on you,
• 59:02
  it's something good.
• 59:03
  You know?
• 59:04
  No.
• 59:04
  And it takes time to build up to that point where you are good at what you're doing.
• 59:08
  Right?
• 59:08
  Like, that's when I set out to when I started the podcast, it was audio only.
• 59:13
  I just started with all my friends.
• 59:14
  Right?
• 59:14
  I already had a massive network of musicians around me, you know, twenty years in the
• 59:18
  industry.
• 59:19
  Like, I already had it, and I was just, calling all my friends.
• 59:21
  Hey.
• 59:22
  Just get on a conversation with me.
• 59:23
  It was audio only.
• 59:24
  I had a little Zoom p four.
• 59:26
  My phone plugged right into it.
• 59:27
  So it's just like, just get on a phone call with me.
• 59:29
  And I sat here in front of a microphone at home with my headphones on and nobody watching and
• 59:34
  got to learn how to do that before we ever started doing, you know, even Zoom interviews.
• 59:40
  And Zoom interviews, I started doing, like, last December.
• 59:42
  And then now we've brought that.
• 59:44
  So, like, we were very I was pretty confident in my abilities before I ever started turning
• 59:49
  this thing on live and going live out to the rest of the streams.
• 59:53
  But I've been going live on my phone, on my Facebook, like, every day for almost a year
• 59:59
  now, if not more.
• 1:00:00
  Like, I do it so long that I forget that, oh, I've been having this for a while.
• 1:00:04
  Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  I've been seeing you.
• 1:00:05
  I've been watching this last couple days and stuff since since you've been on on the stream.
• 1:00:09
  It brought brought my attention.
• 1:00:10
  That's why I was asking where you lived at because it always looks so cold.
• 1:00:13
  You got gloves on.
• 1:00:14
  You know?
• 1:00:15
  Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  Was like, dang.
• 1:00:16
  No way he's in Missouri.
• 1:00:17
  Now.
• 1:00:17
  Like, 40 degrees in the morning.
• 1:00:19
  It's about to get a lot worse, Bobby.
• 1:00:20
  You just wait till
• 1:00:21
  Stop.
• 1:00:21
  I'm cold.
• 1:00:22
  That's terrible.
• 1:00:23
  I'll have my parka on.
• 1:00:24
  I'm a have my smartphone, but I still out there walking and doing my thing, and I still go
• 1:00:28
  live.
• 1:00:29
  And my phone will be freezing, like, literally freezing.
• 1:00:32
  And but I don't like, I there's a commitment to it.
• 1:00:35
  Right?
• 1:00:36
  Yeah.
• 1:00:36
  Because I've had so many people that have been like, yeah, man.
• 1:00:38
  I I watch your lives the time.
• 1:00:40
  And Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  They they're not liking them.
• 1:00:42
  Right?
• 1:00:42
  But they're watching.
• 1:00:43
  Right?
• 1:00:44
  Or they're seeing them on the replay.
• 1:00:45
  And today, we had a full realization of that too where this gal we've been friends on
• 1:00:51
  Facebook probably because we connected on some veteran stuff.
• 1:00:54
  Her her son, I think she said, is a veteran and really involved in some things.
• 1:00:59
  So probably connected with us there, but then she was seeing my lives and saw me talking
• 1:01:04
  about the music and our Momo meetups on set on Wednesdays at seven.
• 1:01:08
  And it was like, oh, I'm gonna come and check that out.
• 1:01:11
  So she ends up clicking the link, and then she falls in, and she's like, oh, I'm a music
• 1:01:15
  networker, man.
• 1:01:16
  I know everybody in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
• 1:01:18
  Right?
• 1:01:19
  And all of a sudden, you're like, oh, cool.
• 1:01:20
  We just tapped into a whole new market now.
• 1:01:22
  We know where to go, who to talk to, and all this different world.
• 1:01:26
  That's right.
• 1:01:26
  Just from showing up live on Facebook every day and talking for five minutes, like, showing
• 1:01:31
  some appreciation for people, watching and tuning into the things that we're doing.
• 1:01:36
  And now it's like, well, now I can't stop doing it.
• 1:01:39
  Right?
• 1:01:39
  Like, knowing that it's having some effect out there in the world.
• 1:01:42
  Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Is it a million followers?
• 1:01:44
  No.
• 1:01:45
  But it's it's attention that it's connection.
• 1:01:48
  Right?
• 1:01:49
  And that's what I've been doing this for.
• 1:01:50
  And and it's it's awesome to see somebody else out there like like you and Trizzy and just
• 1:01:58
  like what you guys have built down there is the same thing that we've kinda built at the scene
• 1:02:02
  projects.
• 1:02:02
  Even though we're not in a major market, we've been able to connect with all these artists,
• 1:02:07
  and now we have six hosts on the network.
• 1:02:09
  And everybody's doing their thing, and we're able to bring people through.
• 1:02:13
  And it it was really cool to see somebody else doing exactly what we're doing and to get to
• 1:02:19
  connect and to get to see my music out there because I don't
• 1:02:22
  Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Like, yeah, my my song's on the intro, but I'm not putting my videos on every day and, look at
• 1:02:27
  me.
• 1:02:27
  Look at like, y'all y'all get enough of me.
• 1:02:29
  Right?
• 1:02:29
  Yeah.
• 1:02:30
  Look at all these people and put the spotlight on them.
• 1:02:33
  So it's nice to, like, go somewhere else and have somebody willing to put a spotlight on you
• 1:02:37
  sometimes.
• 1:02:37
  Right?
• 1:02:38
  And to
• 1:02:38
  say, hey.
• 1:02:38
  No.
• 1:02:38
  Look at this guy doing his thing.
• 1:02:40
  So it was cool to be able to bring you on tonight and to get to vibe.
• 1:02:45
  You know?
• 1:02:45
  I wanna play Envy before it gets too late, man.
• 1:02:47
  It's already 10:00 here.
• 1:02:49
  I am not a night owl.
• 1:02:50
  I'll be up at 5AM.
• 1:02:51
  He's an old person.
• 1:02:53
  He's an old person.
• 1:02:54
  We love him.
• 1:02:54
  He's a one that Willie,
• 1:02:56
  what am I?
• 1:02:57
  Because I'm gonna be in bed in an hour and up at six.
• 1:03:00
  I'll be I'll I'll be in bed too.
• 1:03:02
  I'm I don't I think it's just I think we all getting old, man.
• 1:03:05
  Because Boo
• 1:03:05
  boo, that's because your Internet's getting turned off.
• 1:03:09
  Not not even.
• 1:03:11
  Yeah.
• 1:03:12
  The only Bobby, you're lucky, man.
• 1:03:13
  The only person we troll here is Boo boo.
• 1:03:17
  Everybody needs somebody.
• 1:03:19
  You know?
• 1:03:19
  But, no, before you play that one, you know, that's the power of networking, not just on the
• 1:03:23
  Internet.
• 1:03:23
  I mean, look.
• 1:03:24
  I reached out looking for booking agencies, and I you know, that's how the connection here was
• 1:03:31
  formed.
• 1:03:32
  You know?
• 1:03:34
  Yeah.
• 1:03:35
  Definitely.
• 1:03:35
  And I and I feel like I feel like just like how you said, like, even if there's only 10 people,
• 1:03:40
  but but I feel like if you have 10 followers, you gotta multiply that by 10.
• 1:03:44
  So there's, like, 10 if you're seeing 10 people, there's really a 100 people because
• 1:03:47
  there's 90 there's 90 people that aren't liking it.
• 1:03:50
  They're but they're still watching it.
• 1:03:51
  You know?
• 1:03:52
  Because, like like, I've talked to people that, like, I grew up with and and, you know, that I
• 1:03:56
  ain't talked to for years, and they'll be like, oh, I see you doing your thing out there.
• 1:04:00
  You know?
• 1:04:00
  I see you in Saint Louis.
• 1:04:01
  You're doing your thing.
• 1:04:01
  But the thing is, though, is I had no idea that they even knew that I was doing anything
• 1:04:05
  because they never liked nothing.
• 1:04:06
  They never shared nothing.
• 1:04:07
  They never commented, but they're still watching.
• 1:04:10
  You know?
• 1:04:10
  So even even if you're not getting, you know, the gratitude that you think you are, man, just
• 1:04:15
  keep you gotta keep pushing it.
• 1:04:17
  You gotta keep doing it.
• 1:04:18
  You know what mean?
• 1:04:18
  And there's been times that, like where, like, I'd wake up and I'd be like, don't even wanna
• 1:04:22
  do my stream.
• 1:04:23
  You know?
• 1:04:23
  And then and then, like, thirty minutes later, I'd have somebody message me like, you're going
• 1:04:26
  live, man?
• 1:04:27
  Well, where you at, man?
• 1:04:28
  You know?
• 1:04:28
  I'd be like, man, I didn't even think nobody even cared if I went live.
• 1:04:31
  You you know what I mean?
• 1:04:32
  Like, you never really know what you mean to people.
• 1:04:34
  You know?
• 1:04:35
  Yeah.
• 1:04:35
  There's somebody out there that looks at you as a superstar.
• 1:04:38
  You know what I mean?
• 1:04:38
  And and appreciate appreciate the quality of the people that that mess with you.
• 1:04:43
  You know what I mean?
• 1:04:44
  Instead of the quantity because because a lot of times, like, just like how you're saying,
• 1:04:47
  like, playing people's music or or or networking and stuff, like, those are people
• 1:04:50
  that really connect with you or, like, people that see you perform at a show that they really
• 1:04:54
  connect with you because they you know them.
• 1:04:57
  You know what I mean?
• 1:04:57
  Like, if somebody messages me, I'm a message them back.
• 1:05:00
  I'm a try to message them back unless they're, like, a bot or trying to sell me something.
• 1:05:04
  But you know what I mean?
• 1:05:05
  But, like
• 1:05:05
  Even I'm even messaging those people back.
• 1:05:07
  Like, I appreciate a fan.
• 1:05:09
  It's like, have people that message me every day, like, just good morning.
• 1:05:12
  I'm just like, good morning.
• 1:05:13
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:05:14
  Like, dudes, like, grown dudes.
• 1:05:15
  You know?
• 1:05:15
  And I'm just you know?
• 1:05:16
  Like, I don't think nothing weird about it.
• 1:05:18
  It's just like they that's all that's all they ever say too.
• 1:05:21
  You know what mean?
• 1:05:21
  But I messaged them back because it's like you know what I mean?
• 1:05:24
  I appreciate that.
• 1:05:24
  It's just like just like artist, you know, fan mail.
• 1:05:27
  Like, you know you what I mean?
• 1:05:29
  I don't want no Stan coming after me and nothing.
• 1:05:31
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:31
  So I love all my fans.
• 1:05:34
  Answer I answer
• 1:05:35
  every text message, every letter.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  I answer.
• 1:05:40
  I love you guys.
• 1:05:42
  That's my life, man.
• 1:05:44
  Showing up and just saying thank you.
• 1:05:46
  Thank you.
• 1:05:47
  Hey.
• 1:05:47
  This is what we're doing today.
• 1:05:48
  We had a great episode last night.
• 1:05:50
  You know, tomorrow, I'll be on there talking about hanging out with Bobby, telling everybody
• 1:05:54
  to go and check you out.
• 1:05:55
  Because a lot of people aren't aren't here with us right now.
• 1:05:57
  Right?
• 1:05:58
  They're all living in they're not in the present with us.
• 1:06:01
  They're living in the past.
• 1:06:03
  Right?
• 1:06:03
  They're seeing this stuff maybe three, four days later.
• 1:06:06
  And, that's the thing about some of these interviews is, like, my best interviews are
• 1:06:11
  always coming up.
• 1:06:12
  No matter if I just did the best interview of my life today, like, nobody's gonna see it for
• 1:06:16
  two, three months.
• 1:06:17
  Right?
• 1:06:18
  And by the time that it airs, I've kinda forgotten about it too, but it changed my life
• 1:06:22
  in that moment.
• 1:06:23
  And
• 1:06:24
  And what I do what what I do too and with y'all's permission, if I could do it on this
• 1:06:27
  is, like, I is I'll make reels.
• 1:06:29
  You know?
• 1:06:30
  And then and then but whenever I make the reel on the comments, I have the link so people,
• 1:06:34
  they can go watch the full thing.
• 1:06:36
  Because that's a lot of times too with, like, TikToks made everybody where they don't a lot
• 1:06:40
  of people don't wanna sit through a whole hour long thing, but so you can make highlights and
• 1:06:44
  highlight the reels and then be able to give them the option to be able to go watch the full
• 1:06:48
  thing and and then be able to see it.
• 1:06:50
  Because like you said, a lot of people, they they don't they might not catch you live.
• 1:06:54
  You know what I mean?
• 1:06:54
  But they'll see it they'll see it somehow.
• 1:06:56
  You know?
• 1:06:57
  But but but yeah.
• 1:06:58
  So the song Envy, I produced it.
• 1:07:01
  I made the beat, did all the engineering, did everything.
• 1:07:04
  The artist that's on it is Stroky Bobby.
• 1:07:06
  He's from Louisiana.
• 1:07:08
  He's a a dope artist.
• 1:07:09
  I actually met him on my stream.
• 1:07:10
  He's sending this song called heart too big, and it, like, really, like, touched me.
• 1:07:14
  You know?
• 1:07:15
  Like, he's you know, I was just like, damn.
• 1:07:16
  Like, I love that sound.
• 1:07:17
  So I saw so, you know, I had this beat.
• 1:07:20
  I sent it to him.
• 1:07:21
  What's crazy about this song is I had I had a different version of it where, like, I did
• 1:07:26
  three verses and and did the hook and everything.
• 1:07:29
  You know?
• 1:07:29
  So I sent it to him as, like, open verse.
• 1:07:31
  Like, I was like, yeah.
• 1:07:32
  You wanna get on the song?
• 1:07:33
  So I sent it to him, and then he sent back the song, and he did the hook, the verse.
• 1:07:37
  It left me, like, a minute and a half at the end.
• 1:07:39
  But but but but whenever I heard the song, I was just like, man, it's it's so dope, though.
• 1:07:44
  You're like, this is
• 1:07:45
  better than what I said.
• 1:07:47
  I was like, this is better.
• 1:07:48
  Like, it was so it's supposed to be, like he was just supposed to be open feature on song,
• 1:07:51
  but he end I ended up being an open feature on my own song.
• 1:07:54
  You know?
• 1:07:55
  I love it.
• 1:07:55
  We have a I mean,
• 1:07:56
  that's the muse, man.
• 1:07:57
  That that's like, how do you deny that at that point?
• 1:08:00
  Like, you can't be so selfish to to deny the song it's due.
• 1:08:08
  And, it it's really cool that you were able to create something that inspired someone else so
• 1:08:13
  much to do that too.
• 1:08:14
  Right?
• 1:08:14
  So I'm looking forward to listening to this one.
• 1:08:16
  This is Envy.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah.
• 1:10:41
  Always in a bad mood every time I see you so easily judging someone else.
• 1:10:46
  But you put that effort in worrying about yourself.
• 1:10:49
  That's why I
• 1:10:50
  look in the mirror when I need somebody's help.
• 1:10:52
  Only myself I trust.
• 1:10:54
  So if anything happens, I'll just self destruct.
• 1:10:57
  I take the weed out the wrapper, then I spark the blunt.
• 1:11:00
  I'm still blow hours after you can't tell me a thing I say.
• 1:11:04
  Fuck them.
• 1:11:04
  Fuck doing what I want while you're doing what you can.
• 1:11:07
  You just pretend to log like you the man.
• 1:11:57
  Yeah.
• 1:11:57
  But shout out Stokey Bobby, man.
• 1:11:59
  He's definitely a dope dope dope singer and dope artist.
• 1:12:02
  You know?
• 1:12:03
  Yeah.
• 1:12:04
  That was that was killer, man.
• 1:12:05
  I I loved you, I love both of your guys' stuff on there.
• 1:12:09
  It's nice to hear you come in at the end because I'm like, oh, there's our boy.
• 1:12:12
  Right?
• 1:12:13
  Yeah.
• 1:12:13
  Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Right.
• 1:12:14
  It's like you see what I meant, though?
• 1:12:16
  Like, it was like, I'm not it was like, he just left me that little bitty spot on the song.
• 1:12:20
  Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  I had to extend the beat even to to put my whole thing on there, man.
• 1:12:24
  Shout out to Bobby.
• 1:12:26
  I actually
• 1:12:26
  made that
• 1:12:27
  beat on this drum machine right here, man.
• 1:12:30
  Like, that's, like, that that's one of them songs that's like because I feel like whenever
• 1:12:33
  whenever you make the beat, it's like it's it's even more your baby.
• 1:12:37
  So you know I mean?
• 1:12:38
  That's why, like like, the only people the only song like, I've I've produced like, I had that
• 1:12:44
  one, and I had this love comes love goes that I did with t thirty three and then hypnotized,
• 1:12:48
  but I'm on all those songs.
• 1:12:49
  Like, you know what mean?
• 1:12:50
  Like, I ain't never produced the song where I just gave the beat to somebody because it's
• 1:12:54
  almost like I feel like that's like giving your kid away to somebody.
• 1:12:58
  You know?
• 1:12:59
  Like, 80% of the songs on my albums, I made the beats.
• 1:13:02
  Like, most of all the beats I produce like, I'm, like, a rapper that wants to be a
• 1:13:06
  producer.
• 1:13:06
  Like, mostly producer wants wants to be rappers, but I'm a rapper that wants to be a
• 1:13:10
  producer, but I just mainly produce for myself, though.
• 1:13:12
  I understand that feeling, man.
• 1:13:14
  That's exactly how I am too.
• 1:13:16
  And, I mean, that song definitely proved you're not only a good rapper.
• 1:13:20
  You have very good skills as a producer as well.
• 1:13:23
  You just
• 1:13:24
  killed it with that beat, and you both absolutely killed it.
• 1:13:27
  It made a dope track there.
• 1:13:29
  I appreciate it.
• 1:13:30
  That's what I wanted to show y'all with those song selection coming on the show.
• 1:13:34
  I wanted to show I wanted y'all to see that I could rap, be emotional, and be a producer.
• 1:13:39
  So I'm glad that y'all that y'all seen what I was trying to do, you know, for sure.
• 1:13:43
  Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  You you did it, man.
• 1:13:45
  That was, that was awesome, man.
• 1:13:47
  Bobby, I I'm really looking forward to continuing to, to be friends, to keep showing
• 1:13:53
  up on each other's streams Yeah.
• 1:13:55
  To keep on just growing what we're doing, man.
• 1:13:59
  I'm so damn proud of you.
• 1:14:00
  Yeah.
• 1:14:01
  Every Sunday every Sunday at 10AM.
• 1:14:03
  So so y'all all got a open visitation, man.
• 1:14:06
  Just hit just hit on my messenger, and I'll send y'all the link or you always send your
• 1:14:11
  music in.
• 1:14:11
  I'll play y'all's music or any artists that y'all have.
• 1:14:14
  Like, we don't even though it's mainly, like, hip hop and stuff because that's what, like,
• 1:14:18
  what I make and and then people around me and people on the show.
• 1:14:21
  But but we but we I enjoy I really enjoy other type music too.
• 1:14:26
  You know what I mean?
• 1:14:27
  Like like like, whenever whenever I'm, like, just chilling, like you know what I mean?
• 1:14:31
  Like, Bill Withers is, like, one of my favorite like, that's one of my biggest inspirations of,
• 1:14:35
  like, Bill Withers.
• 1:14:36
  Because, like, you were saying, like, songwriters and and how he would play all the
• 1:14:40
  instruments.
• 1:14:41
  He could get on the piano and and play and and type too like that.
• 1:14:44
  So I definitely appreciate and love, like, all sorts of music.
• 1:14:47
  You know what I mean?
• 1:14:47
  And it's refreshing on the stream whenever you're always just hearing this, like, you know
• 1:14:52
  what I mean, computer generated hip hop music, and then somebody comes in actually playing a
• 1:14:56
  guitar and singing.
• 1:14:58
  Like like, whenever I forgot what the name of the song is, but whenever we were playing it
• 1:15:02
  the other last weekend, I was just like, man, you could tell, like, it's just alive.
• 1:15:07
  Like, you could tell, like, it was like y'all in the studio playing instruments.
• 1:15:10
  Like, that's so refreshing nowadays.
• 1:15:13
  That would be Drifter when I submitted Drifter.
• 1:15:16
  Yeah.
• 1:15:17
  I loved it because it was like it's it's so refreshing whenever it's so much is, like, just
• 1:15:21
  computer generated and plug ins.
• 1:15:23
  Like, it's so nice to hear, like, live music.
• 1:15:26
  Like, live there's something about live music.
• 1:15:29
  You know what I mean?
• 1:15:29
  Like like, people playing instruments and and singing on a live mic.
• 1:15:33
  Like, that's the greatest thing ever.
• 1:15:35
  Like, I love that.
• 1:15:35
  Like, you know what mean?
• 1:15:36
  I absolutely love the live music feel, and I'm actually hopefully going to have a full band
• 1:15:42
  playable EP coming out next year.
• 1:15:46
  Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:15:46
  That's awesome.
• 1:15:48
  If I knew if I knew enough people that could play instruments for me, I would.
• 1:15:51
  But the thing is, though, is just like I was saying, like, nowadays, you know, it's like as
• 1:15:55
  a artist, everybody's, like, trying to get in your pockets.
• 1:15:59
  Like you know what I mean?
• 1:15:59
  That's why I've learned to do every a lot of stuff just by myself.
• 1:16:02
  Because whenever you try to reach out to somebody, then they just try to charge you
• 1:16:06
  something, which I understand.
• 1:16:07
  Like, everybody feels like they're worth something.
• 1:16:09
  You know what mean?
• 1:16:10
  But at the same time, like you said, none of us are making money.
• 1:16:13
  We're all starving, so why not help each other out?
• 1:16:15
  And then whenever we get to the big piece of pie, then we could all eat instead of everybody
• 1:16:19
  just pulling each other down.
• 1:16:21
  You know what I mean?
• 1:16:21
  Because that's how it is.
• 1:16:22
  Like like like, it's just the music industry, especially in the levels that that we're doing,
• 1:16:28
  it's like everybody's just trying to take advantage of everybody.
• 1:16:31
  The way I've always heard it is everyone wants to feed off your crumbs instead of waiting for
• 1:16:36
  the feast.
• 1:16:37
  Yeah.
• 1:16:38
  Yeah.
• 1:16:38
  That's greatly put.
• 1:16:39
  You know?
• 1:16:40
  It's true.
• 1:16:41
  You know?
• 1:16:41
  And and and a lot of people, they wanna sell the building before they even laid the
• 1:16:45
  foundation.
• 1:16:46
  You know?
• 1:16:47
  Like, a lot of people, they they they might have the right, you know, ideas.
• 1:16:51
  Like, they do wanna help you, and they wanna hit you up and be like, oh, I wanna manage you.
• 1:16:54
  I I wanna promote you.
• 1:16:55
  I wanna do all this, but they don't have the resources to be able to do it.
• 1:16:59
  You know what mean?
• 1:16:59
  They haven't built the built the structure yet.
• 1:17:02
  You know what I mean?
• 1:17:03
  They just have the dream.
• 1:17:05
  You know?
• 1:17:05
  And a lot of people, they're trying to sell the dream, but you gotta build that dream before
• 1:17:09
  you can sell it.
• 1:17:10
  You know what I mean?
• 1:17:11
  A dream isn't nothing without till you build it.
• 1:17:14
  You know what I mean?
• 1:17:14
  And people got it backwards where they're trying to just sell their dream, and and they
• 1:17:18
  don't wanna put in the work nowadays.
• 1:17:20
  You know?
• 1:17:23
  Awesome stuff, man.
• 1:17:25
  I'll be tapping in on those Sundays because I don't have, anything going on usually at 10AM.
• 1:17:30
  Football season's coming to a close.
• 1:17:31
  I usually do a coaches show with our head football coach of the high school team here in
• 1:17:37
  my little town.
• 1:17:38
  We get together and talk about the high school team, but their season's winding down now.
• 1:17:42
  So I'll have my Sundays back.
• 1:17:44
  I got some new songs to share.
• 1:17:46
  You heard one of them.
• 1:17:48
  Yeah.
• 1:17:48
  I I would love to bring on some other folks too and to hear their music and to bring some bring
• 1:17:53
  a different flavor over to your stream and to start being a part of what you're doing, man.
• 1:17:59
  I think it's awesome.
• 1:18:00
  Appreciate as an artist, I appreciate it.
• 1:18:03
  As a fellow podcaster, I appreciate it.
• 1:18:05
  And, yeah, man, I feel like we're gonna really make a dent and to really shine a light where
• 1:18:11
  other people aren't.
• 1:18:12
  Right?
• 1:18:13
  I I say that, you know, we're we're shining the light in the dark corners of music right now.
• 1:18:17
  And I I think that you're doing the same thing, Bobby.
• 1:18:20
  So been a pleasure getting to kick it with you tonight.
• 1:18:23
  And Yeah.
• 1:18:24
  I really appreciate y'all having
• 1:18:25
  me.
• 1:18:25
  More of it.
• 1:18:26
  Yeah.
• 1:18:26
  I really appreciate y'all having me.
• 1:18:28
  Like, I really do.
• 1:18:29
  Like I said, it like you were saying, it's nice to have the attention, the spotlight turn back
• 1:18:33
  on you whenever you're so used to, like, interviewing and talking to other people.
• 1:18:37
  It's nice to, like, have people talk about you, you know, talk about yourself for a little bit.
• 1:18:41
  You know?
• 1:18:43
  I love it.
• 1:18:44
  For sure.
• 1:18:45
  I appreciate y'all.
• 1:18:45
  Willie, anything in parting here?
• 1:18:49
  No.
• 1:18:49
  Just oh, sorry.
• 1:18:51
  You go first, Willie.
• 1:18:53
  No.
• 1:18:53
  You're you're a new newcomer.
• 1:18:55
  You're welcome back.
• 1:18:56
  I like your newcomer.
• 1:18:57
  I was gonna say it was really nice to, you know, get to talk with you and meet you
• 1:19:01
  tonight.
• 1:19:02
  And, you know, I'm definitely gonna be checking out your music after this, and I'll be in
• 1:19:06
  contact with you to hopefully get you onto my show.
• 1:19:10
  Yeah.
• 1:19:10
  We could definitely do that.
• 1:19:11
  If I'm not if I I don't know if I'm if we're following each other.
• 1:19:15
  I know I know I'm following Willie.
• 1:19:18
  I don't know if I'm
• 1:19:19
  We'll connect you.
• 1:19:19
  We got all of our calendars on the sceneprojects.com too, so you can tap on Yeah.
• 1:19:24
  I'll definitely I'm a definitely tap into the website.
• 1:19:27
  That's what I did already say.
• 1:19:28
  The link I sent you, thesceneprojects.com.
• 1:19:30
  Email?
• 1:19:31
  Yeah.
• 1:19:31
  Yeah.
• 1:19:32
  I've seen it.
• 1:19:32
  I'm a check You can check or book on every one of our shows from the website.
• 1:19:37
  Okay.
• 1:19:37
  I
• 1:19:38
  But I definitely look forward to working with you.
• 1:19:40
  And, know
• 1:19:41
  For sure.
• 1:19:41
  For sure.
• 1:19:43
  Well, yeah, you guys are kinda not, like, super close to each other, but at least you're both
• 1:19:47
  in the beautiful state of Missouri.
• 1:19:49
  Yeah.
• 1:19:49
  And and if y'all ever if any of y'all ever in Saint Louis, we're we're always doing
• 1:19:53
  showcases.
• 1:19:55
  We have one on November 6 coming up.
• 1:20:00
  So, you know, y'all could always come out and and perform and stuff on these showcases.
• 1:20:03
  So or or y'all can come down to the to the radio show, and and I can get you on the
• 1:20:08
  station and stuff too.
• 1:20:09
  So if y'all ever been in Saint Louis, let me know.
• 1:20:11
  I'm gonna turn
• 1:20:12
  well, I'll be going through there in a couple of weeks, man.
• 1:20:14
  I'm definitely gonna hit you guys up and, see
• 1:20:17
  if we
• 1:20:17
  can, at least connect.
• 1:20:19
  I don't know if I'll be there on the evening.
• 1:20:20
  I got shows up in Minnesota, the seventh, eighth, and ninth.
• 1:20:23
  So I don't know if I'm gonna make the showcase on the sixth, but I'll definitely hit you guys
• 1:20:28
  up when I'm rolling through town and get to check out what you're doing, man.
• 1:20:32
  I I think it's awesome.
• 1:20:33
  Yeah.
• 1:20:34
  No problem.
• 1:20:36
  Go ahead.
• 1:20:37
  I was supposed to be coming up and covering that show, but I'm trying to get my work shift
• 1:20:40
  scheduled.
• 1:20:41
  Okay.
• 1:20:42
  Yeah.
• 1:20:42
  That'd be dope.
• 1:20:43
  Yeah.
• 1:20:44
  Shout out.
• 1:20:44
  It's called Out The Blue Out The Blue Showcase.
• 1:20:49
  I'm usually bad with remembering the names of them.
• 1:20:51
  I got the flyer.
• 1:20:52
  That's the only way I know it.
• 1:20:53
  Know because the flyer is my profile picture, so that's the only reason why I know it.
• 1:20:57
  I kept seeing and it's easy to remember the blue.
• 1:21:00
  You know?
• 1:21:01
  Listen.
• 1:21:02
  My memory is crap.
• 1:21:03
  If I don't have something to look at, you know, car accident, beating your head off the windows
• 1:21:08
  a couple times kinda destroy destroys your memory.
• 1:21:11
  You know?
• 1:21:11
  So
• 1:21:12
  Yeah.
• 1:21:12
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:13
  Yeah.
• 1:21:14
  I have selected memory.
• 1:21:15
  I can remember lyrics and stuff like that, but I can't remember anything, like birth dates and
• 1:21:20
  none of that.
• 1:21:21
  You know?
• 1:21:21
  Oh god.
• 1:21:22
  I'm the same way.
• 1:21:24
  Yeah.
• 1:21:25
  I'll have to let the things out if I'm ever down from mine and Bubba's area, but that's a
• 1:21:30
  bit of a stretch.
• 1:21:31
  You think I'm in the middle of nowhere.
• 1:21:33
  Boo Boo's even more in the middle of nowhere.
• 1:21:35
  Like, at least I'm close to some stuff, but he's Where are you at?
• 1:21:38
  Where's where's boo boo at?
• 1:21:39
  I'm in Northeastern South Dakota.
• 1:21:42
  Okay.
• 1:21:43
  So a bigger part of middle of nowhere.
• 1:21:45
  So y'all both in so y'all so y'all both in South Dakota?
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  Yeah.
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  But we're, like, three hours away from one another.
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  See, I've been
• 1:21:51
  to South what we are.
• 1:21:53
  I've been to Sturgis.
• 1:21:55
  I went to Sturgis one time, and I've seen Mount Rushmore and all that, the Black Hills.
• 1:22:00
  There you go.
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  So that's where I grew up was on that side.
• 1:22:02
  I grew up in Deadwood.
• 1:22:03
  Yeah.
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  It's nice to And I still got a lot of I'm actually going out there this weekend for the
• 1:22:08
  Wild West Songwriters Festival.
• 1:22:09
  So I'll be out there playing music and connecting with other artists.
• 1:22:13
  And, I mean, that's how this thing all started was, like, I'm already in all these places
• 1:22:17
  where artists are and, like, nobody is out here trying to talk to them about them.
• 1:22:23
  Right?
• 1:22:23
  Like, everybody's out here just like, oh, look at me.
• 1:22:26
  Look at me.
• 1:22:26
  Look at me.
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  And I'm like Yeah.
• 1:22:27
  Yeah.
• 1:22:28
  Look at you.
• 1:22:28
  You're so talented.
• 1:22:29
  You know?
• 1:22:30
  Like
• 1:22:30
  And and it's genius networking too because because not only because you're highlighting
• 1:22:34
  the other artists, but but by you doing that, those people are paying to their their fan base
• 1:22:39
  are are tuning into you too because they're like, okay.
• 1:22:42
  Let's see what this is about.
• 1:22:43
  And like you said, like like, you know, like, if if you have a good product yourself, you
• 1:22:48
  know what I mean, like, good dope sells itself.
• 1:22:50
  So so they're gonna, you know what I mean, tune tap into you as well.
• 1:22:54
  You know?
• 1:22:55
  Well and that's what this show has become, and I look for I mean, this is only the fourth or
• 1:22:59
  fifth week that we've done this, but every time, we do, I get such a high off of it.
• 1:23:04
  I'm usually tired by the end, but I wake up the next morning like, man, was so cool.
• 1:23:09
  That was
• 1:23:09
  so rad, man.
• 1:23:11
  And and now people are gonna see that, and it's only gonna continue to grow.
• 1:23:15
  Tonight, we got five people watching live.
• 1:23:17
  Like, that that's you know, the last week was the the say yeah.
• 1:23:21
  There you go.
• 1:23:23
  Yay, Missouri.
• 1:23:24
  Shout out to Renee, one of our super fans.
• 1:23:26
  She's been here
• 1:23:26
  over the over
• 1:23:27
  the she was really digging on everything that that you've had going on.
• 1:23:31
  So you got In the
• 1:23:32
  got another fan.
• 1:23:33
  And the thing is, though, is is it's not only about, like like you said, like like you were
• 1:23:37
  saying, like, we're in the future because we're leaving a digital foot mark.
• 1:23:41
  You know what I mean?
• 1:23:42
  So it might be, like, a hundred years from now.
• 1:23:43
  Like, just like how peep we're digging up artifacts and being like, look at this clay
• 1:23:47
  bowl.
• 1:23:48
  You know what I mean?
• 1:23:48
  A thousand years ago, they're gonna be digging up and they'll be like, oh, check out this
• 1:23:51
  podcast.
• 1:23:52
  Yeah.
• 1:23:53
  They're gonna be digging through the archive, man Yeah. And
• 1:23:55
  And to find this legacy that we've left of all these amazing artists.
• 1:23:59
  And, yeah, I talk about it all the time, man.
• 1:24:01
  And that's
• 1:24:01
  And realizing it in in real time.
• 1:24:03
  Like, a lot of people, like you said, they might not see this.
• 1:24:06
  You know, it might not be a hundred years.
• 1:24:08
  It might be ten years, right, or two years.
• 1:24:10
  But, yeah, I I equated it to this, and you kind of hit on something that that I've kinda put
• 1:24:15
  into words where, like, we got a bunch of hooks in a bunch of coattails right now.
• 1:24:20
  Yeah.
• 1:24:20
  And anytime one of those artists hits, we have a good friend of ours, Samantha Grimes, who's
• 1:24:25
  being you know, is available to get nominated for a Grammy.
• 1:24:28
  Right?
• 1:24:29
  Like, if she gets nominated and wins a fucking Grammy, bro, people are gonna see her
• 1:24:34
  on the interview, man.
• 1:24:35
  My show.
• 1:24:36
  When you search her name, we're going to come up, and now they're tapping into that.
• 1:24:40
  And and the more artists that you connect with, the more opportunities you have for that.
• 1:24:44
  So it's kind of the get back, right, for all the the time and the effort that we put in that
• 1:24:50
  eventually one of these people make it.
• 1:24:52
  Right?
• 1:24:52
  And and we get to kinda go along for the ride and bring everybody else with us too.
• 1:24:56
  Right?
• 1:24:57
  So Yeah.
• 1:24:57
  Yeah, man.
• 1:24:58
  You got
• 1:24:58
  That's like that's like the importance of networking.
• 1:25:01
  I mean, we've actually got people that I brought to the show from TikTok because I can't
• 1:25:06
  sleep, so I scroll through TikTok.
• 1:25:08
  Yeah.
• 1:25:09
  We got a guy we met off there or I met off there and brought to the network, Dalton Jones.
• 1:25:13
  He's an amazing talented artist.
• 1:25:15
  And, like, now he's actually starting to send guests to us because, you know, I was actually
• 1:25:22
  fortunate enough to be able to use my connections through y'all the podcast and
• 1:25:29
  actually able to get his song on the radio station.
• 1:25:32
  Yeah.
• 1:25:32
  That's awesome.
• 1:25:33
  So it just goes to show that the connections that are formed, you know, are lifelong.
• 1:25:40
  It ain't just and that's what great about the podcast is you connect with people on such a
• 1:25:45
  real level that by the time that show's over and we talk, especially on mine yeah.
• 1:25:52
  I mean and I'm not putting theirs down, but mine, have some real hard conversations with
• 1:25:56
  because it's the title of it that I feel like and I'm sure Bubba Phil and Boo Boo feels the
• 1:26:01
  same way, but by the time you get done and you have these hard conversations, you feel like
• 1:26:07
  you know that person that was on the friends Yeah.
• 1:26:09
  We're
• 1:26:10
  now.
• 1:26:11
  You know what I mean?
• 1:26:11
  That that's and that's the beauty of it too because that's how it feels.
• 1:26:14
  Like, it feels like we're all friends now.
• 1:26:15
  Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:26:16
  Just from this because, I mean, how like, with society and stuff and the way people are
• 1:26:21
  nowadays, like, people don't really sit down and talk no more.
• 1:26:25
  Like, who's gonna sit down and really talk to somebody for an hour and a half that they don't
• 1:26:28
  know?
• 1:26:29
  Like, you know
• 1:26:29
  what Bobby, I'm talk I'm talking to you longer than I just meeting you than I have to some of
• 1:26:34
  my family members.
• 1:26:35
  Me too.
• 1:26:36
  Me too.
• 1:26:36
  I'm a talker, so I will talk for an hour and a half.
• 1:26:40
  Ask Bubba.
• 1:26:41
  Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  Ask anyone who knows you, Willie.
• 1:26:46
  No.
• 1:26:46
  And I kinda like listening to envy tonight where, you know, at the and it was great that
• 1:26:52
  it was at the end because when you finally came on with your verse at the end, it's like, oh,
• 1:26:57
  that's my boy.
• 1:26:58
  Right?
• 1:26:58
  And it's like, we just met.
• 1:27:00
  Yeah.
• 1:27:01
  But I feel, like, so, like, kindred spirit to that and a connection that we have now.
• 1:27:07
  And that's the beauty of, like, your podcast is because your podcast is real.
• 1:27:10
  Like, you know what mean?
• 1:27:11
  Y'all are on here, and y'all are being real people and genuine.
• 1:27:14
  Y'all doing this because this is what y'all love to do.
• 1:27:16
  You're doing it because you love to put out artists.
• 1:27:18
  You know?
• 1:27:18
  You're not on here trying to charge artists.
• 1:27:21
  You're not on here being fake.
• 1:27:23
  Because that's the thing with, like, the Internet and society is everybody's so fake.
• 1:27:26
  So so whenever you're reel, people gravitate to that because that's rare nowadays.
• 1:27:31
  A lot of people, they can't come on a podcast and have a conversation like this because
• 1:27:35
  there's either two whole two mini holes in their story, they're too fake, or they just
• 1:27:39
  they don't know how to they they act weird when a camera they see that little green light on
• 1:27:43
  the camera, they act all weird and just like I see it all the time on my on the radio.
• 1:27:47
  So, like, people come in, and they just act weird.
• 1:27:49
  I was just like, you gotta just be natural.
• 1:27:51
  Like, don't worry about the camera.
• 1:27:52
  Just act like we're having a conversation because that's what we are.
• 1:27:55
  You know?
• 1:27:55
  And I know you gotta go.
• 1:27:57
  You know?
• 1:27:57
  But It's all good, man.
• 1:27:58
  It's training, though, but, like, I didn't I had this camera for two years before I started
• 1:28:04
  sitting in front of it all the time.
• 1:28:06
  And then having someone like, you have to look at the camera because I would be looking up at
• 1:28:10
  you know, I'm looking at you, but you can't see me anyway.
• 1:28:13
  Right?
• 1:28:13
  And until someone told me that where I was like, oh, they're like, you gotta make love to
• 1:28:17
  that camera.
• 1:28:17
  Right?
• 1:28:18
  Like, you have to be staring and sensing and communicating.
• 1:28:21
  And but it took time, man.
• 1:28:22
  It took training, and that's why I'm glad that, like, we're here now.
• 1:28:26
  And we were we're not here a year ago because I wasn't ready a year ago.
• 1:28:30
  I wasn't ready for all of this.
• 1:28:32
  And Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  We weren't ready for hundreds of people to be tuning in every single week to see these
• 1:28:37
  things.
• 1:28:37
  You know?
• 1:28:37
  Even a few weeks ago, We've continued to get better with our production and everything that
• 1:28:42
  we're doing.
• 1:28:43
  And, you know, at least we didn't have any dogs barking in the background tonight at Pulu's
• 1:28:47
  place.
• 1:28:48
  I had I had to put my dog up.
• 1:28:49
  My dog's in the cage.
• 1:28:51
  I put her up because I was like, I don't want her acting all crazy.
• 1:28:53
  You know?
• 1:28:54
  Because I
• 1:28:54
  think As long as you don't shock her, like, on camera because she's a prop for you like this
• 1:28:59
  cat.
• 1:28:59
  I don't know if you tune into the news or not, but I saw this this Hassan guy who's a big
• 1:29:04
  streamer,
• 1:29:05
  and they're on him now because yeah.
• 1:29:07
  Well, he just has a dog in the background, like, five hour stream, and they caught him,
• 1:29:11
  like, shocking her with the shock collar because she got up and was moving around.
• 1:29:15
  I was like, you got mad at your dog because it's a dog?
• 1:29:17
  Like, Pete, you deserve the hate.
• 1:29:19
  You deserve the hate, dog.
• 1:29:21
  Come on.
• 1:29:22
  Is really demonized.
• 1:29:24
  Yeah.
• 1:29:24
  It's all
• 1:29:25
  good.
• 1:29:25
  Man, I just Bobby, it's been great getting to know you, man.
• 1:29:28
  Yeah.
• 1:29:28
  For sure.
• 1:29:29
  Boo boo, good to
• 1:29:30
  see you again.
• 1:29:31
  Yeah.
• 1:29:31
  Well, I'll see you on some Sundays.
• 1:29:33
  I'll be traveling this Sunday, and I and I probably won't be tapping in.
• 1:29:36
  But give me a few weeks, man.
• 1:29:37
  Get home from this tour and everything, and, hopefully, I get to stop in Saint Louis and see
• 1:29:41
  y'all, man.
• 1:29:42
  I'm I'm I'll be coming through on on the fifth or sixth headed up north.
• 1:29:46
  So, hopefully, I get a chance to come and say hello and
• 1:29:49
  You better come see me.
• 1:29:50
  Going on.
• 1:29:51
  Mhmm.
• 1:29:51
  And I'd love to be on y'all shoot on y'all shows too.
• 1:29:54
  I know that, Willie, you mentioned you had the mental health show and stuff, so I'd like to do
• 1:29:59
  that too, you know, because it's definitely something that I can relate to.
• 1:30:02
  You know what I mean?
• 1:30:03
  And I'd like to do your show too, boo boo.
• 1:30:04
  So and and like I said, y'all got open visitation whenever y'all wanna come online.
• 1:30:08
  So I appreciate y'all.
• 1:30:09
  Awesome, man.
• 1:30:10
  Awesome.
• 1:30:11
  Well, everybody, make sure you're following the scene projects, all the social media.
• 1:30:15
  Subscribe on the YouTube so you can comment like our good friend Renee has been all the
• 1:30:19
  time.
• 1:30:20
  Make sure you're following b hills.
• 1:30:21
  He's got an awesome awesome thing going on.
• 1:30:24
  YouTube.
• 1:30:25
  I know he's on Facebook and everything too, and he's always streaming somewhere.
• 1:30:30
  Yeah.
• 1:30:30
  You can
• 1:30:31
  just Google if you just Google b hills, everything pops up.
• 1:30:34
  You could just find I'm on all social medias, Instagram, TikTok, even things I don't even
• 1:30:39
  know, like that tile or what's that one new one?
• 1:30:43
  I don't even know.
• 1:30:44
  It's just I'm on everywhere, though.
• 1:30:47
  Okay.
• 1:30:47
  Don't look.
• 1:30:48
  There's somebody behind you.
• 1:30:49
  Yeah.
• 1:30:50
  I'll move on now.
• 1:30:50
  Behind them.
• 1:30:51
  You can see
• 1:30:52
  them on.
• 1:30:52
  You can find all of us on
• 1:30:54
  theseedprojects.com
• 1:30:56
  and to schedule if you guys wanna come on for your own interviews.
• 1:31:00
  Bobby, of course, I know you're going to, but anybody else watching, you're an artist, you
• 1:31:04
  wanna share your music, you wanna be on Love Noise, you are more than welcome to go over to
• 1:31:09
  the sceneprojects.com.
• 1:31:11
  And, check us all out there and get yourself scheduled in.
• 1:31:14
  So with that, we are gonna say good night.
• 1:31:17
  We love you guys for tapping in with us every single week here.
• 1:31:21
  Renee, thank you so much for being such a super fan, and we'll catch you guys next week here on
• 1:31:26
  Love Noise.
• 1:31:27
  I appreciate you, gentlemen.